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Speaker 1: Garrett from Saint Augustine, Florida said, which games if you

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Speaker 1: Ll It's good that you added the caveat Garrett. I

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Speaker 1: was a national powerhouse. I was a child running around

427
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Speaker 1: watching Michael Vick do his thing up there, and I

428
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: would always look at the entrance, the inner Sandman entrance,

429
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Speaker 1: and they were known for special teams, beamer Ball as

430
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Speaker 1: they called it, And so I would think, you know,

431
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Speaker 1: if I were to tell my little self, when you

432
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Speaker 1: fast forward and you become an adult with a driver's

433
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Speaker 1: license and an apartment and everything, you'll be able to

434
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Speaker 1: just go wherever you want. Certainly I would think Virginia

435
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: Tech was going to be a mainstay. But that's not

436
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: the way college football works. It's in some cases very cyclical,

437
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: and Virginia Tech's been on a downward cycle for quite

438
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: a while, and I'm not happy about it, because I

439
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: would love to go see a game in Blacksburg, Virginia,

440
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: and I would love to see the pageantry and the tradition,

441
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: and it's a really unique place, really unique place. I

442
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: don't know if you're like me. When I think of places,

443
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 1: I think of stadiums, and I can always picture them

444
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: in my mind. So with Virginia Tech, I think they

445
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: have a pretty unique stadium design. A lot of college

446
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: places like this because the stadium wasn't all built at once,

447
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: like MetLife stadium in New Jersey is it's a cookie

448
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: cutter NFL stadium, and it was all built at once. Well,

449
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: some of these college stadiums, like one of the grand

450
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: stands was built in nineteen twenty three, then they added

451
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Speaker 1: another one in nineteen forty four, and then they added

452
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 1: some end zone seating in nineteen sixty, and then the

453
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: concept of luxury suites first entered the equation. And so

454
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: it's like a little erector set that was built in

455
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 1: different eras. I don't know that that's how Virginia Tech

456
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: was built. I just know it looks like that in

457
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Speaker 1: my mind. And so whenever I know that we're going somewhere,

458
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 1: is my point, I always think about that in my mind,

459
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Speaker 1: this is that stadium I'm going to. Some of them

460
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: I've been to before, some of them I haven't. But

461
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: that's the image that pops in my mind. Like if

462
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Speaker 1: you were to tell me Washington, because Washington's another one

463
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Speaker 1: that we haven't been to. I think of that big

464
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Speaker 1: overhang that comes over the sideline seats year, you know,

465
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: with autsin stadium. I don't know why, because it's not

466
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: always like this, but I always think of a night

467
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: game radical color scheme for obvious reasons that duck on

468
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Speaker 1: a motorcycle and I think of a very thin layer

469
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: of fog sort of floating in around third quarter. Again,

470
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 1: doesn't always happen that way. Never been to a game

471
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Speaker 1: at USC. I'll tell you two places in the Pac

472
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Speaker 1: twelve that I would like to go. Well, they're in

473
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Speaker 1: the Pac twelve as a recording at least. Never been

474
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Speaker 1: to a game at Arizona State or Arizona and I

475
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 1: have a sneaking suspicion, much like I used to have

476
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,479
Speaker 1: about Iowa State, that both of those places would over deliver.

477
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Speaker 1: But they just haven't been good enough to warrant us

478
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Speaker 1: taking ourselves on a tour that claims to go to

479
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Speaker 1: one of the biggest games in the country every week

480
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Speaker 1: out to Arizona or Arizona State. Those are just a

481
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Speaker 1: few of the places. Haven't been to Oklahoma, but they've

482
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: been good. We just the stars haven't aligned. We haven't

483
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: gotten out there. Just went to Texas last year for

484
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Speaker 1: the first time. I'll tell you one more. We'll move

485
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: on Texas Tech. When I was a kid, we took

486
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Speaker 1: a church mission trip via Greyhound bus by the way

487
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Speaker 1: from Columbus Georgia all the way to Lubbock, Texas. That

488
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: is like seventeen hours on a bus. It was exactly

489
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Speaker 1: how it sounds, and we got stranded for six hours

490
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: in Jackson, Mississippi on the way back. As I recall anyway,

491
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: I remember going out there and that was the first

492
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Speaker 1: and only time I've been to Lubbock. So I didn't

493
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Speaker 1: go to a football game, but I remember we were

494
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Speaker 1: in Lubbock, and we were around the university and around

495
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Speaker 1: the campus, and I remember how it felt like we

496
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: were in the middle of nowhere, which is not a

497
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Speaker 1: bad thing. At the time, I thought it was a

498
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Speaker 1: bad thing. Now I love that because the more you

499
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: get those fan bases that are sort of secluded, they're

500
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Speaker 1: not near major cities. And it's not that Lubbock is

501
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Speaker 1: some outpost or something like that with a couple of

502
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: general stores in a gas station, but Lubbock is not

503
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Speaker 1: close to any other major city. It's just out there

504
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: in the Texas Panhandle. It sort of takes on like

505
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: a communal feel more so than some of these other

506
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: places do. At least that's been my experience. And there's

507
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: an ownership of the team by the community that maybe

508
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: you would not get like Knoxville and Baton Rouge awesome atmospheres.

509
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Tennessee and Lsu are both on my top

510
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: ten list. There's a different feel, though, when you go

511
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: to these places that are off the grid a little bit.

512
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: There's more of like an ownership. And some people would

513
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: call it cultish. I don't call it coltish at all,

514
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: but there is an ownership. There is an all in this.

515
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: There's like an over the cliff attitude of everybody chipping

516
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: in for the greater good, etc. It's really great, and

517
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: so I imagine in my head my point here is.

518
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 1: I imagine in my head that's how Texas Tech would be.

519
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: But I gotta go see it. I gotta go see

520
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: it to be sure. Hat tip Joey Maguire for what

521
00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: they're doing out there, though. All right, uh, I know

522
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: what some of you were thinking there. You thought that

523
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: was the ad toss. Nope, just a little pregnant pause,

524
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: take a sip of coffee. And then half of you

525
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: also thought I was gonna deck you and I was

526
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: gonna throw you in the ad break there. No, this

527
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: is not it yet. I only clear my throat though.

528
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: Tyler from Pleasant Hill Oregon said. We hear a lot

529
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: about brand name schools and their importance to their leagues,

530
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: especially in the Power Five, but it does make for

531
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: eye rolls in the other fan bases. If you had

532
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: to pick non name brand dark horses to win each

533
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: Power five league in twenty twenty three, who would you pick?

534
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: You know, Tyler, I'm guilty of this. So we run

535
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: a business here, it's not a charity. So I do

536
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: talk a lot about the name brand schools, if you will,

537
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: but I always, I always get a sense for our

538
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: entire audience. We got people who listen all over the world,

539
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: and we got people who listen all over the country.

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00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: And I know not every one of you is an

541
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: Ohio State fan. Some of you are Bowling Green fans,

542
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: and you know going into the show it's unlikely we're

543
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: going to talk a great deal Falcons. But you listen anyway,

544
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: and you just you have to roll your eyes every

545
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: time I talk about the big boys, and you don't

546
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: get a mention. And I appreciate that, and I also

547
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: I can visualize it, so don't think I'm ignoring you.

548
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: It just it is what it is. But since you asked,

549
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: I'll give you some here. I'll give you some non

550
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: name brands. I would go first up in the in

551
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten. You got to tell me if you

552
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: think Wisconsin is a name brand. Everybody knows Wisconsin, yes,

553
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: but are they a main stage power player, name brand program.

554
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: I would say in the last you know, a couple

555
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: of decades, I would not quite put them in that tier.

556
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: And so I would say Wisconsin with Luke Fickle is

557
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: the non name brand contender in the Big Ten this year.

558
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: I think that he has the ingredients and the attitude

559
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: and the staff to immediately turn it around. And it's

560
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: not like it was totally in the gutter anyway. And

561
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: when they announced that they were bringing a Phil Long

562
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: and they announced they had gotten Tenner Mordechai, for example,

563
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: out of the transfer portal to come play quarterback for him, man,

564
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: that caught a bunch of eyes and ears in the

565
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: Big Ten because I'll tell you what people had grown

566
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: accustomed to. People had grown accustomed to draw in Wisconsin

567
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: on their schedule and knowing it was going to be

568
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: a physical game. But Wisconsin didn't scare them. And I'm

569
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: talking about if you're Michigan, if you're Penn State, if

570
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: you're Ohio State, cause they knew, all right, pound for pound,

571
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: we're going to have better athletes than them, and so

572
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: if they beat us, it'll be because we contributed to it.

573
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: They're not gonna show us anything we didn't expect. In

574
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: other words, well, now, all of a sudden, what are

575
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: you getting with Wisconsin offensively? And they still got one

576
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: more year of playing that Big Ten West schedule, So

577
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: maybe they go to the conference championship game. Just one

578
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: four quarter effort, if they're like plus three turnovers in

579
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: a game where they're a thirteen and a half point dog,

580
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: they could pull it off. So that would be my

581
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: Big ten dark horse name brand. What about the Big twelve?

582
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: I think you got to go Kansas State here because

583
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: they did it last year. So we'll go right back

584
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: to the Well, this is not even something that's that bold.

585
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: It's not a bold prediction. But Kansas State's not a

586
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: they're not a name brand program. They're not up there

587
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: with Texas and Oklahoma in any sense of the word.

588
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: But they're good and they return a lot from a

589
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: team that again won the Big Twelve last year. I

590
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: think one of the big crimes against our tour last

591
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: year was that Oklahoma State just totally no showed when

592
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: they went up to Manhattan and I was up there.

593
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: I was making my debut trip to Manhattan, Kansas, and

594
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: I'm expecting a good game and it's like a one

595
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: and a half or two and a half point spread,

596
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: and it's just I've never felt more confident that there's

597
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: a close game that's about to go down. And the

598
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: final score was violent and ugly and it was bad. Now,

599
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: I will say this, they treated us second to none

600
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: up there. It was great as much as a blowout

601
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: atmosphere can show you we got it. I loved it

602
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: up there. I just would love to see a closer game.

603
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: I know you guys up there enjoyed the blowout. I'd

604
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: love to see a closer game. But yeah, So, Kansas

605
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: State in the Big twelve, Oregon State in the Pac twelve.

606
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Speaker 1: As everyone talks about USC as we do too. As

607
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: everyone talks about Oregon, we do too. Washington I was

608
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: a little curious about because, like, depending on what age

609
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: you are, Washington's kind of been a name brand at

610
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: various points in the history of college football. Now, if

611
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: you're seventeen, they're not. If you're twenty four, they're not.

612
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: But if you're fifty, you've seen Washington win national title,

613
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: You've seen Don James up there. I think the match

614
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: shakes out there. So I went with Oregon State. Oregon

615
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: State won ten games last year and another two losses

616
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: were by combined six points, so they only got beat

617
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: by double digits once last year. I think that was

618
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: the Utah game, I believe. So anyway, they were close

619
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Speaker 1: to doing way more last year than they did, and

620
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: they did a lot. And Jonathan Smith is a totally

621
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: anonymous coach. This is a totally anonymous program. They get

622
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: no coverage, and so if they were to all of

623
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: a sudden win the PAC twelve to a lot of people,

624
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: they would come out of nowhere. They would not be

625
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: coming out of nowhere. They have the fifth best odds

626
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 1: to win the conference. So it's USC, Oregon, Washington, Utah,

627
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: Oregon State. They're right up there in that lead pack

628
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: and UCLA is the next one. Then there's a drop off,

629
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: so there's like a top six in the PAC twelve,

630
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: then a drop off. But they've got Djuiyanglile at quarterback

631
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: and otherwise they return a lot of the pieces they

632
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: had last year. That won them double digit games. They

633
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: slaughtered Florida in the bowl game. Granted it was a

634
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: shell of Florida, but they slaughtered him in the bowl game.

635
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: And also I would go to the ACC, I would

636
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: go Louisville. And it's a lot to do with schedule.

637
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: They've got coaching turnover there, but they probably have the

638
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: most favored schedule out of any of the contenders over

639
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Speaker 1: there in the ACC. I don't think Jesse, correct me

640
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. I don't think they play FSU in

641
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: the regular season. They do not. They don't play Clemson

642
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: in the regular season. They draw Miami really late in

643
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: the year and they go down to Miami for that game.

644
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: There's just let me read it for you really really quick.

645
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: If you're on podcasts, listen to this schedule. Georgia Tech

646
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: in week one is I think in Mercedes Benz Stadium,

647
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: so that's like a kind of neutral site game. It's

648
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. But they got Georgia Tech, they got Murray State, Indiana.

649
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: And here it goes your conference play again, Boston College

650
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: at NC State, Notre Dame out of conference at pitt

651
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: Bye Week, Duke, Virginia Tech, Virginia at Miami, you're done

652
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: with conference play. You play Kentucky. There's just no there's

653
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: no landmine, there's no stretch there. Their toughest stretch would

654
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: be at NC State, Notre Dame, at Pitt I think

655
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: would be their toughest stretch. And you show that to

656
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: an Arkansas van, for example, and tell them, hey, Arcie,

657
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: look at this tough stretch we play, and they're like,

658
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: go away. They slam the door in your face before

659
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: you can even get the third team out of your mouth.

660
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: In the SEC, I don't have any because I always

661
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: get sucked into this trap, and I know what happens.

662
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: What happens is someone asks me an innocent question, give

663
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: me a non power brand contender, a dark horse contender.

664
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you Texas A and M. Someone doesn't

665
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: listen close enough, and then they run to a message

666
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: board and say, can you believe this dude said that

667
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: Texas A and M is gonna win the SEC. The

668
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: reality is there is no real dark course as you

669
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: would define a dark horse that can win the SEC.

670
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: At least I don't think so. Mississippi State, I don't

671
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: think it's gonna win the SEC. Kentucky, I don't think

672
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna win the SEC. So I could give you

673
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: whichever one I think would have the best percentage chance

674
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: of doing it, and I chose A and M. But

675
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: then again, half the people listening would probably classify A

676
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: and M as a major brand. I would say, in

677
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: terms of results, they're not a major brand, but in

678
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: terms of resource and capability, they absolutely are a major brand.

679
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: So my point is I could see it, but I

680
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: couldn't see it with the others, and therefore I don't

681
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: think there's a valid way to even answer this question

682
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: about the SEC. And also, even if I try to,

683
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: I know the direction some of the more casual minded

684
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: amongst us takes it. So instead I choose to drop

685
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: this on you. I'll be giving that point to me.

686
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: I scored a point on you. There highly doubt you

687
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: saw that one coming. Wibble just goes by wibble, That's

688
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: all we know. Next up, he said, with changes coming

689
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: to the Big Ten, will there be increased pressure to

690
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: fire coaches? Yes, I think there will be. This is

691
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: just brutal honesty from me. I think you're already seeing

692
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: it now. There are a lot of things in play here,

693
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: so follow me. The Big Ten signed that big new

694
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: media rights deal. There's a ton of money pumping into

695
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: the conference. With that, I think there is an unspoken

696
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: agreement amongst media partners in the Big ten that you've

697
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: got to give us a better second and third tier product.

698
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: No one's got a problem with Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State.

699
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: They know they're taking it seriously. But if I run CBS,

700
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: for example, and I'm not quite there yet, But if

701
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: I run CBS, or if I run Fox, or if

702
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: I run NBC, and I'm about to hand out handover

703
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: like truckloads of cash, I'm looking and I'm saying, Man,

704
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how to put this. So I'm just

705
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: gonna say it. Iowa versus Michigan State's gotta be better.

706
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: Indiana versus Nebraska's just gotta be better. Minnesota, Northwestern. You

707
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: gotta give us a little bit more than you've been

708
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: given us. You can't just rely on the top, not

709
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: with this amount of money exchanging hands. And so think

710
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: about the last hiring cycle. I am a believer we've

711
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: already seen evidence of this. The last hiring cycle. Nebraska

712
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: did not settle. Nebraska fired Scott Frost early in the year,

713
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: and they got ultra aggressive, and they went and got

714
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: to coach no one else thought they could land. They

715
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 1: got Matt Ruhle. Big deal, it's not guaranteed to pay off,

716
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: but how could you ever have hoped for anything more

717
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: for Nebraska? Right? So, then Wisconsin surprises a lot of people,

718
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: and they fired Paul Christ not after the year, they

719
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: fired him during the season. Whod Wisconsin go? Land? They

720
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: landed Luke Fickel again, a guy no one ever thought

721
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: Wisconsin would be a player for. And that's two for two.

722
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: I would say, massively upgrading the overall coaching and staff

723
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: infrastructure at programs and therefore upgrading the level of seriousness

724
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: that will be applied to the way you watch them.

725
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: You talk about Nebraska two years from now, Wisconsin one

726
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: or two years from now, or you're watching them on TV.

727
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: Probably feels different, I would say, than it has the

728
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: last several years. Well, so, then I think about programs

729
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: like Iowa with Kurt Ferns, who's probably nearing retirement. I

730
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: think about what has what has passed for good enough

731
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: with Maryland or Minnesota or Perdue. I just don't think

732
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: it's going to be considered good enough in the future.

733
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: And so that doesn't mean, by the way, that doesn't

734
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: mean that all of a sudden these coaches are just

735
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: randomly going to be fired. That happens anyway, whether you

736
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: say it or not, whether you want it to happen

737
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: or not, That stuff happens anyway, because with every conference win,

738
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: there's got to be a conference loss, and some of

739
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: those conferences losses disproportionately pile up in certain buckets. So

740
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: I mean, Michigan State's got an over under a four

741
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: and a half this year and mel Tucker is one

742
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: of the ten highest paid coaches in America. Think about

743
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: that for a second. So all I'm saying is with

744
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: the added media rights inventory and the added zas on

745
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: the end of the media rights deal, I think there

746
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: absolutely is a sort of a juke in the ribs,

747
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 1: as my dad would say, a juge and the ribs

748
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: or that's just kind of a nudge of the elbow

749
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: between the big boys in the high rises and the

750
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: folks on the ground level running athletic departments that, hey,

751
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: this is in twenty fifteen, anymore, this in twenty nineteen, anymore,

752
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: we got to get serious. It's not good enough to

753
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: just cash the check and show up and take your loss.

754
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: You need to actually try and win some of these things,

755
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: and I mean really try and win some of these things. Yes,

756
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: I do believe that there'll be a lot more added pressure.

757
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 1: Here's the way I'll put it. I think a lot

758
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: more of that conference is going to feel big boy pressure.

759
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: The pressure James Franklin and Jim Harbaugh and Ryan Day

760
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: feel has not been felt by the rest of that

761
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: conference because there's always been this unspoken understanding that you

762
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: guys around the rest of this conference are not going

763
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: to be held to the same standard as them because

764
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: we don't expect as much from you. That cannot fly.

765
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: That cannot fly when you're paying the entire conference the

766
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: amount of money that these networks are Yes, there will

767
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: be more pressure on those coaches. Next up, is this

768
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: about the location of the game. I think we're at

769
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: that point. Yeah. Okay, So JT is in Houston. He said,

770
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 1: does college football need a designated location for the National

771
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: Championship Game? I'm thinking this because baseball has Omaha, softball

772
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: has Oklahoma City. JT is a really good question, my friend.

773
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 1: A lot of people think yes, A lot of people

774
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: think the Rose Bowl should be the annual location for

775
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: college football's national championship game. I don't have a problem

776
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: with that. I've never made it a point to plant

777
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: my flag in the ground and die on that hill.

778
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: My focus is not on the location, believe it or not.

779
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: For a guy who does not like neutral site locations

780
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: for a national championship game, I think several of these

781
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: places are okay. Like I love New Orleans, Man, I

782
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: love the Super Dome. I love when we go there

783
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: for playoff games or for national title games. I'd love

784
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: for the playoff games to be on campus, but if

785
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: I can't have that, I'd love to be there for

786
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: whatever the postseason throws at us. I think Atlanta does

787
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: a good job, think Miami does a really good job.

788
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: But it's not about that, Okay, It's not about the venue,

789
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: per se. I did not like it at all when

790
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: we played it in Santa Clara. I did not like

791
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: it in Sofi Stadium, even though that is the most

792
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: incredible venue I think I've ever seen. It is not

793
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: college football. It does not feel like college football totally corporatized,

794
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: and I hate that because that's how the Super Bowl feels.

795
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: And all due respect to what the NFL has going on.

796
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm one of those few who remain in the minority

797
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: who would love college football to feel uniquely like college football. Oh,

798
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: by the way, wouldn't hurt play the game on a

799
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: Saturday revenue? Be damned. But anyway, let's go back to

800
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: the question. At Hamm you got the College World Series

801
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: in Omah, you got the Softball World Series there in

802
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, and both of those places totally own those events.

803
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: It is wonderful. It's destination, it's appointment viewing, it's a

804
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: destination bucket list trip for a lot of people who

805
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: love those sports. Should college football have that? I think

806
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: you would get a pretty consensus opinion that if college

807
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: football were to have one fixed location for the national

808
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: title game, more people than not would say Rose Bowl.

809
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: But do people? Does a majority of college football fans

810
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: want that? Should we have the college football national Championship

811
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: at just one location? If we did have it, I'd

812
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: vote for the Rose Bowl. So I'm in agreement with

813
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: most of you. But the reason I'd vote for the

814
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl is only partly due to what you love

815
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: it for. You guys love the weather, and I do too.

816
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: You love the scenery, you love the San Gabriel Mountains

817
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: there when they're playing the Rose Bowl game, and it's

818
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: later in the afternoon on the East coast and you're

819
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: getting the sunset. It's already dark where you are in

820
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: Georgia or New York or Virginia, but the sunset out

821
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 1: there on the West coast, and you're under like seven

822
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: layers of clothing and blankets trying to stay warm, and

823
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: you got folks shirtless out here in the crowd. And

824
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: it's just a world. If you grew up like me

825
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: in the rural South, you can't even imagine it, but

826
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: that exists. And sometimes your teams get to go out

827
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: there and play. If that were a national championship game,

828
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: would that be great? Sure it would. But that's not

829
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: why I love the Rose Bowl. I love the Rose

830
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: Bowl because the Rose Bowl takes itself more seriously than

831
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: any other college football venue and any other college football

832
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: committee that hosts any other college football game. That's why

833
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: the Rose bull should have the national championship. If the

834
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: folks who run the Rose Bowl were put in charge

835
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: of displaying the tradition and pageantry that should be synonymous

836
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: with our championship game, it would not feel corporatized. I

837
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: guarantee you if you let the Rose Bowl Committee run

838
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: the actual national championship festivities, that's how college football should feel.

839
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: So I love the San Gabriels, I love the sunset,

840
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: and I love all of the history of that stadium.

841
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: I would love the way the presentation would feel because

842
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: that committee out there gets it. That's why I didn't

843
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: have a problem still don't with them digging in their

844
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: heels and be in such a menace in getting this

845
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: new expanded playoff. Figured out what's their crime, standing for

846
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: what they believe in, refusing to just take a blowtorch

847
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: to tradition for the sake of television networks Like I

848
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: salute them, I used to curse them up and down

849
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: because I was fooled into being a clapping seal that

850
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: you did the bidding of the folks in suits worth

851
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: more than my whole wardrobe. Then all of a sudden

852
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: had the fog lift from my eyes, and I saw

853
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: the light, and I said, hold on a second. I'm

854
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: sitting here claiming to love tradition. These folks are out

855
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: here fighting for tradition. They're pretty much the only entity

856
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: left standing in the way, and they haven't folded. I

857
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: respect that about them. They get what this sport is about.

858
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: Isn't it ironic, by the way, that this is a

859
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: game a lot of people in the South take as

860
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: serious as anyone, and a lot of people in the

861
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: Midwest they take it as seriously as anyone. And you

862
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: would look at folks on the West coast and you

863
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: would claim, y'all Pac twelve soft, Oh, they're not as

864
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: serious about it. Their game. The Rose Bowl takes it

865
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: as seriously as anyone. And they actually stood up more

866
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: and I want you to hear me, in the South

867
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: stood up more fervently against change for the sake of

868
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: change in the wrong direction than a lot of Southern

869
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: entities did. Now, what do you think about? That? Not

870
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: something I saw coming. So I would love if we

871
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: had it in a fixed location. I'd love for it

872
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: to be the Rose bul But I love for it

873
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: to be the Rose Bowl because of the seriousness that

874
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl Committee places on college football, as opposed

875
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: to just appeasing several other masters. And really, if the

876
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: audience likes it, okay, if they don't, whatever, it's not

877
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: really their game. It is our game. It absolutely is

878
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: our game. Went a little longer than I thought it

879
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: on that immunity. Next up, what a question this is?

880
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: I actually can answer this for the first time in history.

881
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: Jake from Brunswick, Ohio hit us up and said, is

882
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: Cuban coffee better or worse than the traditional American coffee?

883
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: Now Jake is asking this because about a month ago,

884
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, whenever it's been, we went down to

885
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: Miami and we spent several days down there, and we

886
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: had Mario Cristaball on the show. We did our show

887
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: live from Miami. Mario Cristaball is Cuban and he earned

888
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: he learned English as a second language. I actually did

889
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: not know that. So anyway, he is introducing us to

890
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: Cuban culture. Down there. We went to Cuban restaurant. We

891
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: had Cuban coffee delivered to us upon request. It's like

892
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: a clapper system. Most of you can turn your bedroom

893
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: lights on like that. At Miami, they just double clap, bam,

894
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: Cuban coffee. Where did this come from? Don't worry about it,

895
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: just drink it. So I drank it. It's like gasoline.

896
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: It's so great. It's so great. As some one who

897
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: enjoys a pre workout beverage with three hundred some odd

898
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: grams of caffeine in it before I go lift. I

899
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: loved it. Now. I never used to drink coffee. I've

900
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: only started drinking coffee, and like the last three years

901
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: of my life, stay away from the cold brew. We've

902
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: learned that just makes you go blind. Not kidding, So

903
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: I just go coffee. I've actually I've got a cup.

904
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: If you're listening on podcasts, I just tap the mic

905
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: with a cup. But I don't care about the taste

906
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: so much. So here's what I'll tell you about Cuban coffee.

907
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: It is strong, It is extremely strong. It tastes really sweet, though,

908
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: so if you order black coffee, you know how that

909
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: stuff tastes. And I don't care about taste, So I

910
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: just drink it black like my dad used to. And

911
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: I said I never would, and all of a sudden, voila,

912
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: here I am. Couldn't care less about taste. Just give

913
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: me the black coffee. I want the caffeine content, don't

914
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: even care about the actual flavor. I'm the same way

915
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: with pizza, and so no caffeine pizza though, just different, different,

916
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: you know on pizza than some of the some of

917
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: the more high nostral minded and management around here. I

918
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: hope I haven't been too unclear. But with Cuban coffee,

919
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: they serve it in little small cups and you just

920
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: down it and then you're awake until next Tuesday, and

921
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 1: it's wonderful. So I am siding with Cuban coffee over

922
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: the American product, and I love both. But that stuff

923
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: they gave me down there, I don't know if it's

924
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: even legal. I don't care because they didn't test me

925
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: at TSA. On the way back for coffee, they had

926
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,479
Speaker 1: me take my belt off, and they had me lift

927
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: my shirt, and they touched me in the no zone

928
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: for all kinds of different reasons. But it woun't cause

929
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: of the coffee I've had. There's no immunity for that.

930
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm just straight up telling you. TSA violated me down

931
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: in Miami, and that's like the fourth worst thing that

932
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: happened to me at Miami Airport. By the way, one

933
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: of these days we won't have to worry about that anymore.

934
00:48:53,680 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: Next up, let's see Hugo, Oklahoma. That's where John Hail's from.

935
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: And he said, what if people are not happy with

936
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: the twelve team playoff, John, what are you talking about.

937
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: There's no way this could ever happen. John, It's gonna happen,

938
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: not to everyone, not to everyone. A lot of you

939
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: wanted this, You've got it, and a lot of you

940
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: were gonna love it. And I'm not gonna call you

941
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: a bad person. I told you, I'm not even gonna

942
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: harp on this for very long on this show, and

943
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to right now either. It's gonna be

944
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. But here's what I think. I

945
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: have a suspicion. I have a theory, if you will,

946
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: and let me just float it and you guys tell

947
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: me what you think about it. There is a group

948
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: like me that just doesn't want expansion. There is a

949
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: group that is all four expansion. So those are two groups.

950
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: Then I think there's this third group that is the

951
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: least vocal. I think politics is also the same way

952
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: in this country right now, there's a third group kind

953
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: of in the middle, that looks around both sides and

954
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: says I don't think I fit into either one of

955
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: these classifications. I don't really only fully know where I

956
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: stand right now. And with the playoff, I think a

957
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: lot of you are looking around. You've heard the pro

958
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: expansionist argument. You've heard the anti expansionist argument, or as

959
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: I call it, the traditionalist argument, and you're looking around.

960
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: You're saying, there sounds like there's some merit on both ends.

961
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: And I think maybe those of you who just apply

962
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: logic and remove emotion you also still may be in

963
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: the middle. But you say, you know, the one thing

964
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: that those traditionalists do have a point on is if

965
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: we go the way of expansion and we're wrong, there's

966
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: no going back. And that's true. And that's what I

967
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: think will happen for some of you, is we will

968
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: go the way of expansion, and at whatever point it happens,

969
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: you will come to the realization that this isn't all

970
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: that it was cracked up to be. It turns out

971
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: we just we got fooled into going down a road

972
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: that would make a lot of people rich will never meet.

973
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: And this product feels so sanitized. This product does not

974
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: feel authentically college football. It feels very corporatized. It's like

975
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: we were talking about a second ago with a different topic.

976
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: And that's John's big what if. Well, I'm telling you

977
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: that's going to happen to some of you, some of

978
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: you won't mind, some of you will love it, but

979
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: there are several more of you who think you want

980
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: it now, or who think you may want it now,

981
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: and you get it and you don't like it now.

982
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: I will tell you. I'll just fully admit to you

983
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: I don't want expansion, and I hope I'm wrong, because

984
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: I definitely don't want to be doing these segments for

985
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: the next ten years. I want to get into the

986
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: playoff era. Think about how fun it would be for

987
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: me to just sit here like a pinata and every

988
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: week you just get to bang and bang and bang away. Yeah, immunity,

989
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: but you get to do that to me because I

990
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: was wrong and you were right, And turns out we

991
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: are in the greatest era in the history of college football. Well,

992
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: I would love to have that. I don't think it'll

993
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: be that way, but I would love to be wrong.

994
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to be the old guy on

995
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: the front porch waving a cane at anyone. I hope

996
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: you guys are right. I just don't think you are.

997
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: But what will happen, John, is if we get to

998
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: that point, then that's the next question. The next question,

999
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: as it always is, when you don't like something is

1000
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: what can we do about it? Nothing? At that point,

1001
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: what can you do about it? You know good and

1002
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: will will never contract a playoff. We'll never go back

1003
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: to having a smaller number because that would mean less

1004
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: money and you can't do that. There are also contracts involved.

1005
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: So my recommendation has been and always will be, place

1006
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: the emphasis on the regular season. Tom Fournelli over at

1007
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: cover three. There are other things about Tom Fournelli's personality.

1008
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: He's not just a dude who does a podcast, but

1009
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: that's probably how you know him. He took a he

1010
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: took a meme from that LSU Florida Baseball national title

1011
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: where the dude was talking to the girl and the

1012
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: girl wants none of it, and he put you know,

1013
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: he put the dude as saying college football playoff expansion

1014
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: is going to save the sport, and then he was

1015
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: the girl saying Nope, not interested. And of course that

1016
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: led to the usual pro and anti expansion argument in

1017
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: the comment section, and so I come in there. I

1018
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: tried to refrain, but I came in there because someone said, man,

1019
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: imagine thinking more football is a bad thing, which is

1020
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: just the most intellectually bankrupt argument out of all this.

1021
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: If you're for expansion, okay, please don't just come at

1022
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: me and say, imagine thinking more football is a bad thing,

1023
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: because it's such an easy argument to shoot down. It's

1024
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: a law of basic economics. You cannot disc let me

1025
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: go back to sixth grade for you. You cannot decrease

1026
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: the scarcity of something and maintain the value of something.

1027
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: So those of us out there who say that expansion

1028
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: is going to be to the detriment of the value

1029
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: of the regular season, we're just right. It's not even opinion,

1030
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: it's just fact that you can't have more of something

1031
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: on the back end but have the stuff on the

1032
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: front end still mean the same thing. It won't. It won't.

1033
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: Now the difference is some of you are willing to

1034
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: trade that and some of you aren't. But the third

1035
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: party out there who says, oh, no, no, we'll get both, No,

1036
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: you won't. When have you ever gotten that with anything

1037
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: in life? So I go back and forth with this

1038
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: guy because he says, oh, imagine imagine not wanting more

1039
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: playoff games and imagine not wanting more football, And I said,

1040
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: imagine thinking you can decrease the scarcity of something and

1041
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 1: maintain the value. Like when we print more dollar bills,

1042
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,479
Speaker 1: you know what happens to the value of the dollar

1043
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: bills already in your pocket. Basic stuff. Man, you don't

1044
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: even have to have attended college to know this. College,

1045
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: in some cases could probably warp your mind on this.

1046
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: So then he comes back at me and he says, oh, yeah, yeah,

1047
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: imagine thinking giving teams a shot and having a true

1048
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: playoff decide a champion on the field is a bad thing.

1049
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: And I said, imagine thinking that the emphasis for a

1050
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: regular season sports should be on the playoff to begin with.

1051
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: That's where our argument comes from. Those of us in

1052
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: the anti expansion argument. The great, the great myth is

1053
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: that we don't think the playoff would be entertaining. I've

1054
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: explained this a million times. I know this is old

1055
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: hat if you listen to me, but we got a

1056
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: lot of newbs, newbs, We got a lot of new

1057
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: listeners listening every time. So just so we're clear on

1058
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: where I stand on this, if we were to just

1059
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: snap our fingers and we start in December, the playoff's

1060
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 1: going to be incredible to watch. That's not our point,

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Speaker 1: It's not my point at least, it's gonna be incredible

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00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: to watch. I just think it removes a ton of

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00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: urgency from the regular season, and I don't place first

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00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: and foremost my eggs in the basket of the playoff.

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00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm different with the NFL. I look forward to the

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00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: NFL playoff. I look forward to the regular season of

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00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: college football. I'm never voluntarily sacrificing any value in the

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00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: regular season just to get a champion. Because college football

1069
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: works differently than every other pro sport. It is totally inequitable.

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00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: It is not built on an evenly built foundation. At

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00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: colleges are not and therefore theages we call football programs

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00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: attached to them or not. It's like if you were

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00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: to watch a race. Let's say that you and me

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00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: and Colin and Bradley and Jesse, we're gonna go out

1075
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: on a track and we're gonna race. Okay, Well, if

1076
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: we all start at the same start line and we

1077
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: all got to get to the same finish line, it's

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00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 1: pretty fair that we just judge each other on who

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00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: got to the finish line first. That's what they do

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00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: in pro sports. Everything is built to make people start

1081
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 1: at the same start line, same salary structure, same roster sizes,

1082
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: same draft protocol, same everything. In college football, Central Florida

1083
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: has been around fractions of the amount of time that

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00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: Alabama has been around, And so then you've got disproportionate

1085
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: inequity and scheduling. And this is a bad example called

1086
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: Central Florida's about to go to a Power five conference.

1087
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: But that would be like watching that race and Bradley

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00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: starts three hundred meters ahead of me, and Collin's two

1089
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: hundred meters behind me even and Jesse's just already to

1090
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: the finish line and there's the gun. All right, let's

1091
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: just judge them based on results. Well, that's stupid. That's

1092
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: how you are what your record says you are. Crowd

1093
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: sounds by the way, in college football, it's dumb because

1094
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: they didn't start anywhere close to the same. And I'm

1095
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: talking about scheduling now. It's one of the many flaws

1096
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: I have with the autobid model. And so anyway, that's

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00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: its whole separate argument. But for those reasons, among many others,

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00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: I have never looked at college football and said, Okay,

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00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: even with all this inequity out here, I'm gonna worship

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00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: the playoff results. That's gonna be the end, all be all.

1101
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: I don't care about that as much I care about

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00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: the regular season, and for that reason, I've always said

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00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: no to expansion. Some of you said yes to it,

1104
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: and you'll get what you want. Some of you have

1105
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: said yes to it and won't get what you want,

1106
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: and the sun will come up the next day either way.

1107
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: But that's how I look at that, all right. Last

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00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: question here, This is a really good one from Knox

1109
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: in Auburn, Alabama. If you were to have your memory

1110
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: totally erased from one college football season and you just

1111
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: get to go relive it again, which one would you choose?

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00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: Obviously I would do twenty ten, but more than likely

1113
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. I go back and forth on this daily

1114
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: as an Auburn fan. Those are fair. That's the Cam

1115
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: Newton year and the Kick six year. You went to

1116
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: the national title game both years. But allow me to

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00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: pay per pop for just a second. Two thousand and

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Speaker 1: seven is my answer. Two thousand and seven is widely

1119
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: remembered as being the most chaotic in the history of

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00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: college football. But I'm just going to pretend you're seventeen

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00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: years old. You were like a junior rising senior in

1122
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: high school. And you really just don't remember this. Like

1123
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: those of us who were already of age remember it.

1124
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: They tell you two thousand and seven was crazy. Here's

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00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: how crazy it was. So that's the year Nick Saban

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00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:51,479
Speaker 1: gets to Alabama. That's also the year LSU has two

1127
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: losses and still wins the national title. That's the year

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00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: that we're going into the final weekend before the title

1129
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: game is selected and it looks like it's gonna be

1130
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: West Virginia against Missouri, I kid you not for the

1131
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: national title. And then Missouri loses to Oklahoma in the

1132
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: Big twelve title game and West Virginia, as a three

1133
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: plus touchdown favorite, loses to Pitt. West Virginia was dropping

1134
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: like forty five a game. They lost thirteen to nine

1135
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: to Pitt. West Virginia was a powerhouse back then, by

1136
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: the way, And so instead what do we get. We

1137
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: get LSU Ohio State, which is like whichever the broadcast

1138
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: company was that had it that year, that was their

1139
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: dream scenario. We had a guy by the name of

1140
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly takeover at Oregon. Came from the FCS. Chip Kelly. Yeah,

1141
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: we went on to know who that was an unranked

1142
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: or lower ranked opponent defeated a higher ranked team fifty

1143
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: nine times in two thousand and seven, just shattered any

1144
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: record before or since. Thirteen top five teams lost Wait

1145
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: for it, wait for it, thirteen top fives lost to

1146
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: unranked opponents. Do you hear what I just said? We

1147
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: had number four or number three, they fell to unranked

1148
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: teams thirteen times. We were averaging a top five team

1149
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: losing to an unranked team once a week. Those things

1150
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: are like once a year occurrences, once or twice a

1151
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: year occurrences, and they were happening once a week in

1152
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. The number two there was like

1153
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: the curse of number two. That year, the team ranked

1154
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: number two in that week was defeated seven times in

1155
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: the final nine weeks of the regular season. That is insane,

1156
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: totally insane. Kansas just flat out went to the Orange Bowl,

1157
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: Illinois went to the Rose Bowl, Hawaii went to the

1158
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: Sugar Bowl. Less. Miles on the day of the SEC

1159
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: Championship game is reported to be in the mix for

1160
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: the Michigan job. Miles has a press conference as they

1161
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: get to the Georgia Nome and says, I'm not going

1162
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: to Michigan. Takes a shot at Herb Street and then

1163
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: says have a great day. And I remember that because

1164
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: he only spoke out of one side of his mouth. It

1165
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: was really weird. This is also the year Mike Gundy

1166
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: turned forty years old. I'm a man, I'm forty. This

1167
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: is the year it happened. Two thousand and seven was

1168
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: what they would call a fever dream or a Netflix special,

1169
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: but it really happened. It's almost one of those things

1170
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: where if they wrote it, it would get rejected. This

1171
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: kind of thing could only happen in real life. Hollywood

1172
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: can not bring you this because the Believability Committee would

1173
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: wad it up and throw it back in their face

1174
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: and say, Nope, bring us something a little more believable.

1175
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: You just gave us Illinois and the Rose Bowl and

1176
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: Kansas in the Orange Bowl and Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl.

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01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: Try again, buddy, And the buddy is like, no, no, no, no,

1178
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: this is real. This is just a history book I

1179
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: gave you. That's not a script. It was crazy. Kids,

1180
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: find literature on the two thousand and seven season and

1181
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: immerse yourself offend or hit the way back button if

1182
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: you can, and go back and relive it. Either way

1183
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: to be fun good pod today. Make sure you are

1184
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: subscribed and that's about it. That's all I need from you.

1185
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys so much. Make sure you're following on

1186
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: the socials at Late Kick Josh for Bradley the producer,

1187
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: actually just Bradley the associates. I don't want to put

1188
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: that producer in his name, so quick. Producer just is

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Speaker 1: in there though Direct College. You guys are here. We

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. We'll be back Late Kick Live

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01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: Thursday night. Until then, take care, have a great rest

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Speaker 1: of your day. God bless