1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I want to bring back something It was 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: a month ago today. We had Rick Stroud onto the 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Times and towards the end of the interview, 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: I just had a throwaway question because nobody had talked 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: about this, and I thought, you know what, let me 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: ask this question to Rick Stroud, who covers the Buccaneers. 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: It's assumed that he's bradys back next year in Tampa, correct, 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know. I mean, he's under contract, right, 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: he did this thing, but he can get out of it. 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: It's there's not like a ton of cap, you know, penalties. 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: If he doesn't play, two things will decide it, and 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: one is how does he feel healthwise? And he said 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: unless he suffered some injury, he thinks he can play 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: to his fifty. The biggest thing is just his family, 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: you know what. And Giselle says, every year, if you 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: had enough, And but the reality is is that he's 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: got three kids now that are at the age where 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: they're doing things, you know, outside of the home, and 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: they have sacrifice a lot for him. But I can't 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: see him playing more than one more year. Dan, I 22 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: think forty five, for whatever reason, seems to be a 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: weird number that's stuck in his head. Does he walk 24 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: away if they win? But he could win three in 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: a row and no one's done that. If they get 26 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: to the championship and he thinks they can win again 27 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: next year, it's hard. It's hard to really fathom. But 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: like I know this about the greatest players in sport, 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: they seem to be the ones that don't know when 30 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: to leave the party right, Like the vacuum cleaners are going, 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: the lights are on, They're still there, man, They're still 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: at the bar. So I don't know what Tom Brady 33 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: will do, but I think he'll be back next year. 34 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: Super weak on The Dan Patrick Show, brought you by 35 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: M Drive. Don't let age beat you get M Drive. 36 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Let's bring in Peter King Football Morning in America columnists 37 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: contributor to NBC Sports. If I would have told you 38 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: a month ago Tom Brady was retiring, what would you 39 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: have said, Pete. I'm surprised because I didn't see this 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: until the drumbeats started. I didn't see it coming. I 41 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: thought he was going to keep playing. I think he 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: has managed to basically bifurkate his two lives, and he's 43 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: done it very very well. But I do think dan 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: it was me in I think when Tom Brady was 45 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: thirty four, maybe thirty three, who he told I want 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: to play the line forty five. And I remember it 47 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: very very clearly, because I walked away from him that 48 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: day thinking I think he's crazy. I just don't think. 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: And really, part of his legacy is that he's made 50 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: it possible in a game where the conditions for quarterbacks 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: are monumentally easier than they were two generations ago. He's 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: also made it very possible for people to think I 53 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: can play until I'm in my mid forties because you're 54 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: just not getting beaten up. You just have to dedicate 55 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: your whole life to doing it and how you eat, 56 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: how you drink, what you don't drink, what you don't eat, 57 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: and how you train. But I do think it's easy 58 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: to say something at thirty four and then at forty 59 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 1: four your life is different. Did you ever think that 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: you would say, you know what, I'm going to turn 61 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: down this contract from ESPN to be the biggest person 62 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: in the worldwide leader of sports. I'm not going to 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: do this anymore. You're ready. You know eight years earlier 64 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: that Dan Patrick would have said, are you out of 65 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: your mind? And so you just life changes and his 66 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: life has changed. And there's one other thing, Dan, don't 67 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: you also think that at some point, not that you 68 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: get tired of doing this, but you say, really, what 69 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: more can I do? Seven super Bowls? Great? I just 70 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: had one of my greatest years at age forty four? 71 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: Or could I do this? Yes? Do I want to 72 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: do this? I'm not so sure anymore? Yeah? And the 73 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: standard is so high that the bottom line is winning 74 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: super Bowls. And you know, for Tom it's either super 75 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: Bowl or bust, whereas other people in all walks of life, 76 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, we don't have that. Hey, if I don't 77 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: win a Sports Emmy or I've won enough, then I 78 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: can retire. Tom always wanted to be about winning super Bowls. 79 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: I was also curious, with you, being a Hall of 80 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: Fame voter, how many Hall of Fame careers does Tom 81 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: Brady have. I saw that his career was separated into 82 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: three seven year windows, and that you know, he could 83 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: have made the Hall of Fame for any or all 84 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: of those seven year windows. I don't know. I think 85 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: clearly you could have cut his career in half, and 86 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: both of those careers would have been Hall of Fame 87 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: careers because one would have had three super Bowl titles 88 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: and the other one would have had four. You know, 89 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: so obviously I think both of those he could have 90 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: made it. But yeah, it's a fun exercise, but it's 91 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: not really reality. I talked to a former TV exec 92 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: last night and I said, what would Tom Brady what 93 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: would it cost to bring him in as an analyst Amazon? 94 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: If they want to bring him in on Thursday night? 95 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know Brady wants to do this, but 96 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: can you see Brady having anything to do with the 97 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: game when he's you know, now that he's done, could 98 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: he be an analyst in your opinion or what he 99 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: want to be? I mean, personally, I have no idea 100 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: what he's going to do. Have not talked to him 101 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: nothing since this announcement. It would surprise me if he 102 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: would want to do that did And the biggest reason 103 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: is that, you know, it's like I had a conversation 104 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: with Sean Payton last week about this. Sean Payton really 105 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: wants to put his either, dip his toe into the 106 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: TV while and I said, you know, the best ones 107 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: kind of piss people off, you know, sometimes you know 108 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: they're not afraid to say anything. And he goes, oh, 109 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: I know, I know. And look, I'm not saying Brady 110 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: could do whatever he wanted to do if he put 111 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: his mind to it. But does Tom Brady want to 112 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: go on TV and say what a dumb throw by 113 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford or I don't know. There's different ways to 114 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: be critical of people too, But I think Tom Brady 115 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: wants to be excellent at whatever he does, and he's 116 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: proving that with sort of his forays into like religion 117 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: of sport with Gotham Chopra and to some of these 118 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: clothing stuff that he's getting into. Now. He wants to 119 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: be big time. He wants to be the best. To 120 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: devote yourself to be good at TV. I know that 121 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: everybody is going to listen to that and think, oh, 122 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: that's a pilot. Prep asked football players who go into 123 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: TV about how hard TV is, not just how hard 124 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: being on TV, how hard it is to be great 125 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: being on TV because there aren't many of those as 126 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: Jason Witten, how about Brady and Gronk doing their version 127 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: of the Manning Cast? If the Mannings buy the Broncos 128 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: or part of the ownership there. Now I got my 129 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Brady cast with him and Gronk problem solved. It would 130 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: probably be hilarious. But I have a feeling there would 131 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: be more drinking on that cast. I'm all in, I'm here. 132 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm any more drinking than there is on 133 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: the Manning cast, although I'm not sure what there is 134 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: in those tumblers that they're using on the Manning cast. 135 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 1: He's Peter King, his column Football Morning in America joining 136 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: us on the program. Let's get to Brian Flores with 137 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: he had his opening statements. Teams have responded. Elway responded, 138 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: The Giants responded. Stephen Ross responded, what's next? Well, did 139 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: you ever think that John Elway, the New York Giants 140 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: or Steven Ross would say, yep, he's right, we did 141 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: all those things. Of course they're going to deny it, 142 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: and maybe they're all correct. We don't know, We don't 143 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: know anything. I think what's next is going to be 144 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: a long period of a The lawyers for Brian Flores 145 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: trying to get more black coaching than already coaching candidates 146 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: involved in this suit because it would just strengthen their case. 147 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: But you know, as Mike Florio points out, we were 148 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: on TV a couple of times this week, Dan as 149 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: he points out, the NFL is going to do everything 150 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: humanly possible to make sure that this case will stay 151 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: as it is mandated in Brian Flour's coaching kind track 152 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: with the Miami Dolphins, and that says that if you 153 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: have any any any dispute with a team, with management, 154 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: with anybody, it is going to be adjudicated U in arbitration, 155 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: and Roger Goodell is the ultimate arbiter and can either 156 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: a point who's going to hear the case or whatever. 157 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: So the NFL does not like airing its dirty laundry 158 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: as the people of Saint Louis, they wanted their pound 159 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: of flesh and instead got seven hundred and ninety million dollars. 160 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: But you know they're only the NFL owners never had 161 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: to appear in court to address, you know, the the 162 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: complaints that Saint Louis had, And so I think the 163 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: NFL will try every way that is possible to make 164 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: sure that this never that nobody ever has to be 165 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: h you know, nobody ever has to appear in court, 166 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: or that Bill Belichick doesn't have to go under the 167 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: hot lights of a deposition, and so I think that 168 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: is what is next, sort of jousting to see what 169 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: the venue for this is. Well, the Commissioner does his 170 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: State of the Union address at the Super Bowl? Is 171 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: he going to still do that? You think? And does 172 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: he take questions? I'm sure he'll do it, and I 173 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: believe he will take questions and he'll get answer. He'll 174 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: get asked a lot of questions about the Flores suit, 175 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: about the Washington football team, and the renewed charges against 176 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: Dan Snyder. It's still absolutely boggles my mind that, you know, 177 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,119 Speaker 1: as one of the attorneys in the case said yesterday, 178 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: why is it that there's a two hundred page report 179 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: on some possibly possibly deflated footballs and there's zero page 180 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: report on the Washington football team. And it's a great, 181 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: great question. So he's going to get questions on all 182 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: all that stuff, assuming and I'm assuming, I mean he 183 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: answered questions last year. I'm assuming he's going to answer 184 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: questions this year. And I wonder does the Commissioner ask 185 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: for Stephen Ross Who's cell phone? I mean, obviously he 186 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: should or you know, he should listen. Roger Goodell needs 187 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: to uh for the good of the game and for 188 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: the good of the integrity of the game, he needs 189 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: to investigate this absolutely thoroughly. And the way you do 190 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: this is with an independent investigator. That's how you investigate 191 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: the Stephen Ross story. Because any other way, if it's 192 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: headed by Jeff Pash, you know, you're never you're never 193 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: gonna really feel good about the results of it. So, 194 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: in my opinion, I think that that has to be. 195 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: That's the only way that Roger Goodell can answer questions, 196 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, with impunity about what actually, what did really 197 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: happen in Miami. I just saw this. Jim Harball has 198 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: told the Detroit Free Press Mitch Album he's done chasing 199 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: NFL jobs. I mean, we'll see what happens. Tom Brady said, 200 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm playing til I'm forty five. I mean, we'll see 201 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: what happens. Dan. When you say you're done chasing NFL jobs, 202 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: you know what if Mark Murphy and the Green Bay 203 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: Packers come to him in two years and say we'll 204 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: give you X, Y, and Z to come coach our team. 205 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: Was he chasing that job? No? And look, I don't 206 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: really know Jim Harbaugh, so I can't tell you what 207 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: that is. But Dan, when a guy returns after a 208 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: National Signing Day, spending a day with an NFL team, 209 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: and then when he comes back to his other team 210 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: and he says, hey, I'm back everybody. What is everybody's 211 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: supposed to be? But who was supposed to believe that 212 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: he'll never look at another NFL job? I doubt it. 213 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and for him to tell anybody 214 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: that I'm done chasing it, well maybe he is. That 215 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: doesn't mean the real statement will be I will never 216 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: coach in the NFL again. That's the real statement. Or 217 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be a candidate for any more 218 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: NFL jobs, you know, right? It in Stone and otherwise 219 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: that really doesn't mean very much to me. If the 220 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: MVP vote was taken after the Super Bowl, the whole season, 221 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: who would win? Well, you got to tell me you 222 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: wins the super Bowl. If that the Bengals win, would 223 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow be the MV pick? If you if you 224 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: base it on the entire season, I vote for Joe Burrow. Yeah. 225 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean my final three was Aaron Rodgers, who I 226 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: voted for, Tom Brady and Joe Burrow. And obviously if 227 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: you include the playoffs, I'd vote Burrow, because how in 228 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: the world can the Cincinnati Bengals, this fifty four year 229 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: old franchise. You know that everybody thought at the beginning 230 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: of the year was in the bottom ten. Everybody thought 231 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year was in the bottom ten, 232 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: and then they win the Super Bowl with Joe Burrow 233 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: playing lights out in many of those games. It's got 234 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: to be Burrow. How important is winning the Super Bowl 235 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: for LA to establish a fan base. I figure it 236 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: would really help them. Having said that, Dan, I was 237 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: at the NFC Championship game and I thought what happened 238 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: there was really good for football. Honestly, I'm sure that 239 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: there were some RAMS executives who were doing the Rodney 240 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: danger field, Oh what's going on here, and they're unhappy 241 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: with it. But that place was as loud a football 242 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: stadium for both sides. It was a weird, weird crowd 243 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: because the decibel level was at one oh five when 244 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers had the ball, and it was 245 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: at one oh five or one ten when the Rams 246 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: had the ball. It was fantastic. It was almost like 247 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: a European soccer crowd in some ways. It just never stopped. 248 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: The whole day. I thought it was great. And look, 249 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: everybody has said that all the Rams and the Charges 250 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: they need to establish their own fan base. I guess 251 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: that that's true. But really, what's wrong with twenty thousand 252 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: fans of pick a team, the Green Bay Packers or 253 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears or whoever coming in and play and 254 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: coming into your stadium and providing a loud antidote or 255 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: whatever to the other side. There's nothing wrong in that 256 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: with that. We've we've got it in our heads that 257 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: that's faulty, that that's wrong. But why is it? Why 258 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: can there be fans from both teams? Wouldn't you know, 259 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: if you're the Minnesota Vikings and you've got a game 260 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: in LA against the Rams or Chargers in December? I mean, 261 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you want all of the fans, you know, 262 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: twenty thousand people from Minneapolis, Saint Paul in the whole 263 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: area to come in. Isn't that good for business? Isn't 264 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: it good for the economy in La Pete? Great stuff 265 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: as always, and safe travels to LA. Thanks for joining us, 266 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Dan, take care of Thanks for listening 267 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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Peter, how would you recap the 277 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: week for somebody who didn't Let's say somebody was out 278 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: of the country, didn't know what happened, and you said, hey, 279 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: what happened in the NFL? How would you recap it? 280 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: To the biggest long shot in NFL history to make 281 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl made the Super Bowl on Sunday. Tom 282 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: Brady retired on a Tuesday, and before he could even 283 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: get his bouquets, one of the NFL coaches sued the 284 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: NFL and two NFL football teams over systematic racism and 285 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: hiring practices. And that was just the start of the week. 286 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: And now we've had further that, We've had some different 287 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: coaching hires, we've had some other controversies. It is the 288 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: NFL we're living in right now, and I don't think 289 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: any of it should should should be mentioned without saying that, hey, 290 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: the florest things should be number one, number two, number three. 291 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: And yet the way the NFL works, it's like, all right, 292 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: the Super bowls on next week, and I don't know 293 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: if it's still going to be top of mind because 294 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: that's how fast the new cycles. Yeah, I agree, Adam 295 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Schefter tweeted. The Niners offensive coordinator Mike McDaniel arrived in 296 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: South Florida last night for his head coaching interview with 297 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Cowboys offensive coordinator Kellen Moore scheduled for his 298 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: head coaching interview with the Dolphins on Saturday. How attractive 299 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: is that Dolphins job right now? Yeah? I could tell 300 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: you that I know from Mike's case, he definitely wants 301 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: the job. It's a chance to be an NFL head coach. 302 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: And you know that's the point. It's a lot of 303 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: these guys they still want these jobs because how do 304 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: I know I'm ever going to get another opportunity to 305 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: get in there. So if you're at Mike McDaniel or 306 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, and yes, you are walking into a situation 307 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: where the last coach and the owner and the GM 308 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: obviously had conflict and there's an ongoing lawsuit and all 309 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: the things. But hey, here's Mike McDaniel. He's been in 310 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: the league since two thousand and five. He's a forty 311 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: year old guy. He's been waiting his time too, and 312 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: he's like, I want to go for it. This is 313 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: my job opportunity, and I would love to be the 314 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: head coach of the Miami Dolphins. So he didn't withdraw 315 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: his name from that. I could tell you that that 316 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: interview is twelve forty five. Today is when he's going 317 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: to be interviewing with the Dolphins. They are going to 318 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: also interview Kellen Moore, so the decision won't be made today. 319 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: But those are the two names I'm hearing right now, 320 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: and no, neither one of them are people of color. 321 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: It's Mike McDaniel, boy wonder offensive coach, and it's Kellen Moore, 322 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: who's even younger, offensive coach. And you know, I know 323 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: the optics aren't great for the NFL, but that is 324 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: what has been the case going right up from Minnesota 325 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: where it's Harbaugh or Kevin O'Connell to Jacksonville, where it 326 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: seemed like at the last second it was either Doug 327 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: Peterson or Richard Bisaccia. So we've got a couple of 328 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: teams left, Texans and Saints. We'll see if if their 329 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: hires do satisfy what I think is a great, great 330 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: need for you know, African American and people of color 331 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: to be head coaches in the NFL. I was wondering, 332 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson got the Jacksonville job. Do we know if 333 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: Byron Leftwich was offered the job? Do not know that? No, 334 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: I know that they don't don't know if it got 335 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: to that point. I know that they were very interested 336 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: in Nathaniel Hackett and he chose the Denver job, and 337 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: that kind of made them restart their thing. What's interesting 338 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: what that one is? It breaks last night, either Adam 339 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: Schefter or Ian Rapport, one of the insiders breaks it, 340 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: and it happens around ten o'clock Eastern, and all right, 341 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: everyone does their whole thing. Here's what Peterson? Who didn't 342 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: they They fired Urban Meyern week fourteen of the NFL season. 343 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: They interviewed Doug Peterson on December twenty eighth. They were 344 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: radio silent. They did not reach out to Doug Peterson 345 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: didn't have a second interview until February fourth. I don't 346 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: know what happened in those forty days in between, but 347 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember a coaching hire ever as drawn out 348 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: and go so many twists and turns than what the 349 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: Jaguars did. The first candidate to interview in week sixteen 350 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: of the NFL season or week right after the NFL 351 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: season was Doug Peterson, and then they interview about twenty 352 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: guys in between and then eventually hired Doug Peterson. Bizarre. 353 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: But if you look at the openings here in the 354 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: off season, the worst opening was where I know everybody 355 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: wants to be a head coach, but the worst is 356 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: which team or was which team? There was nine openings. 357 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: A lot of those teams fire head coaches because of 358 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: the situations that they're in. See the worst might also 359 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: be with the greatest potential to build. And I think 360 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: the team in the most questionable situation right now is 361 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans because they don't have that quarterback that 362 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: they necessarily thought would be the QUARTERBA few now if 363 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: Davis Mills that guy, I don't know. He had a 364 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: nice finish of the season, but they are so raw 365 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: and so barren as far as this talent on the roster, 366 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: and then with no real direction of what they're going 367 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: to be new GM and Nick Caserio new president and 368 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: Jack Easterby, and there's a hope that they make the 369 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: right higher and they can build something there. But we 370 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: want to talk about an uphill battle going into Houston 371 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: right now without any real thing to hang your hat on. 372 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: It's certainly something that is from the ground zero building 373 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: an NFL team. Talking to Peter Schrager, NFL Network Good 374 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: Morning Football co host and funk sports dot Com senior 375 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: national writer. The show will be in Lost Angeles next 376 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: week starting seven am Eastern. I talked to a former 377 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: TV executive last night and I said, if you were 378 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: still involved in this, would you offer Tom Brady a 379 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: job as an analyst? And he said, if I'm Amazon, 380 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: I just I put it out there that will give 381 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: you twenty five million dollars a year and see if 382 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: Tom would want to be an analyst. You know, let's 383 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: say with Al Michaels, what do you think of that? Yeah, 384 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean that's I don't know if money is what 385 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: motivated this guy. Ever, though, that's the problem. It's like 386 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: you can dangle a lot of money in front of 387 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, it's never been what has been his main motivation, 388 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: and you can say that he's made enough himself as 389 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: life made enough in her career. Like I think the 390 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: Manning situation truly makes the future of all these broadcasters interesting. 391 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: Like you know, Drew Brees the playoff game and gotten 392 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: blasted everywhere because they thought that he wasn't interesting enough 393 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: and he had to you know, check his phone and 394 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: to say, this guy's terrible. Jason in the same thing. Meanwhile, 395 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: the Mannings are sitting on their couch and they're interviewing 396 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: their friends and doing it on their terms. And I 397 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: think Tom Brady is one of the few athletes I 398 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: could say I actually want to do it x Y 399 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: Z way and I don't want to do it going 400 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: on the road and being in Cincinnati to call a 401 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: Raiders Bengals game where I can be criticized by Joe 402 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: Schmo on the on the couch for how good I 403 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: am at calling this. Um. I think I suggested that 404 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: you get Gronk and Brady and you could have your 405 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: own you know, Brady cast here. It's not bad. I 406 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: think that's interesting and it's on Brady's terms as long 407 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: as Brady can dictate where and how it does. Because 408 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't think I see Tom Brady wanting to call 409 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: Week thirteen, you know Broncos Chargers in Denver because he's 410 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: got you know, Romo missed the day after Thanksgiving this year. 411 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: I think he missed that Sunday and people went nuts, 412 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: like he's making how much money? How could he miss 413 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: a game? Guys, these guys, they do have a lot 414 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: of power in these buildings, and I think Brady would 415 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: have the ultimate power if he were to choose to 416 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: work with one of these networks. I got Tony Dune 417 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: next Hour, and I want to ask him, how do 418 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: we fix the Rooney rule or update the Rooney Like 419 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: what if it's not a tweak or is it an 420 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: overhaul in what suggestions would he have because the Rooney 421 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: rule came out when Tony got fired, and I think 422 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: trying to think who else there were two black coaches 423 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: who got fired at the same time, and I think 424 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: that's when we had the Rooney rule that that came about. 425 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: What do you think Tony would suggest on how to 426 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: modify this? And we had Chris Carter on Good Morning 427 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: Football Today, very very vocal in the situation that the 428 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: NFL head coaching world is in right now, and I said, well, 429 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: they've tried to do like financial incentives with draft picks 430 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: and all that, and I think the problem is way, way, 431 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: way more in the weeds than just say, can we 432 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: meet with these guys. I think it starts with preparing 433 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: young African American assistance to be NFL head coaches. So 434 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: it's not enough to just have a African American defensive quarter. 435 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: It's saying, okay, let's get you every possible thing that 436 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: you need so that you could walk in that room 437 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: and you don't feel like you're up against it and 438 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: you don't feel like you're walking into a sham interview, 439 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: that you can wow them. And you could also just say, hey, 440 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: look at the tape and check my references. I shouldn't 441 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: have to razzle and dazzle and do something any differently 442 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: than any of the counterparts who I'm interviewing with. I 443 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: look at there are so many great young assistant coaches 444 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: in the league right now, and so few of them 445 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: got opportunities to interview for those head coaching jobs. I 446 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: think that's the issue. It's not just getting someone in 447 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: the room. It's it's saying, hey, let's recognize these young 448 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: assistants and let's groom them so that they're getting the 449 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: hypen buzz that Kellen Moore's getting at age thirty, that 450 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: they're getting the hypeen buzz that Sean McVeagh got at 451 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: age thirty. You know, you can name the young assistant 452 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: coach that you like. I look at Sean mcvay's assistant 453 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: head coach, and he's a running backs coach right now, 454 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: and in Los Angeles, I'm gotten to know Thomas Brown 455 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: really well. This guy is a former Georgia Bulldogs running 456 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: back beloved by the players, is a huge asset to 457 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh. And yet he was mentioned for the Miami 458 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: Dolphins head coaching job briefly. How come he didn't get 459 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: to interview for nine jobs. Where Jonathan Gannon, who is 460 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: going to be considered for all these jobs as defensive 461 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: coordinator of an Eagles team that lost in the wild 462 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: card round. I just think it's not enough to just say, hey, 463 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you, you know, X, Y and Z 464 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: an opportunity to interview. I think it really starts at 465 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: a young age twenty eight, twenty nine thirty, identifying people 466 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: who aren't just assistant coaches but want to be head 467 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: coaches and saying, let's not only prepare them for that, 468 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: but let's prepare the rest of the league and give 469 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: them opportunities to have the same networking that some of 470 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: the white, young assistant coaches have had. Yeah, that's well put. 471 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: If you had one question for the commissioner next week, 472 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: what would the question be? One question for the commissioner? 473 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: My question would probably revolve around what was brought to 474 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: light here? And it's the same question you just asked me, 475 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: the same question brought to Tony Dungee. Clearly, the money 476 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: rule is not merely enough. What else can we do 477 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: and how else can we actually do that with action 478 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: and not just words? And I would love to think 479 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: that there are answers there, and that there is not 480 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: only the commissioner, but every single person who is employed 481 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: by the NFL and working with the NFL who is 482 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: noticing what's going on in this hiring cycle and says, hey, 483 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: here's my input, here, my two cents, and that's the 484 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: collaborative effort in the decisions that are made moving forward. 485 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: Dennis Green was the other coach who was fired, I 486 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: think the same time two thousand and two when Tony 487 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: was fired and then they brought about the Rooney rule. 488 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: How would you sum up Joe Burrows month coolest kid 489 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: in the world. He like, what are you talking about? 490 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: I love the fact that his high school stadiums already 491 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: named after him. Like it's like it's like everyone who 492 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: knows the guy knows the guy. All the LSU people 493 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: love him. I went to the game last week Chiefs 494 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: Chiefs Bengals, and obviously it was all Chiefs fans, but 495 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 1: there were pockets of Bengals fans in the amount of 496 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: LSU Burrow and he saw it. I would go down 497 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: Verry l Bengal say I'm a Joe Burrow fan. I'm like, 498 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: all right, that's pretty cool. This guy's the man. And 499 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if they've got it 500 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: what it takes to go in as a team with 501 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: one player with Super Bowl experience and beat the Rams 502 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: in their building. Yeah, but I don't know. If there's 503 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: another quarterback in the league. I'd want to have the 504 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: ball going into that situation. Then Joe Burrow right now, Yeah, 505 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: And I asked Peter King last hour, he said, you 506 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: got an MVP vote. If we were taking the vote 507 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl and the Bengals won, he said 508 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow would be the MVP. Maybe it's him even 509 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: if they lose, the fact that you get the Bengal 510 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: he gave hope to every franchise or he put every 511 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: franchise on notice, like, hey, this guy got his team 512 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. They got sacked nine times in 513 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: a win against the Raiders, Like pretty amazing. You know, 514 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: this meteoric rise from you know, National Championship, Heisman Trophy 515 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: second year, going to the super Bowl. Heavy stuff, man, 516 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: it really is. And the stuff that he did last 517 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: week that isn't going to be glorified until maybe we 518 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: do all the film work and in the offseason. Like 519 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: all those third downs where Chris Jones had him and 520 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: he just slides away and he scrambles away. It's like 521 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: so symbolic of this team because they were down twenty 522 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: four points of the Chargers, they came all the way 523 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: back they lost. They were down two touchdowns to the 524 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, they came all the way back, they lost. 525 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: They were back in that game with the Packers that 526 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: they lost, even their losses. It was like he was 527 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: a cockroach, Like you could not put Joe Burrow down. 528 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: He found a way to quawback and everything. And now 529 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: it's just clicking. I couldn't give anymore, and I said, 530 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm good morning football today. There everyone in their mother 531 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: has a podcast. Now everyone and their mother thinks, you know, 532 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: I work for a gambling site. I do this. I'm 533 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: working on this. Analytics paid. Like literally, there are eight 534 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: billion people doing sports media and nine million talking heads. 535 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: Who does dilusion? No one took the Bengals before the season, 536 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: not a soul. I think that's pretty cool. You're an 537 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: Ohio guy. You got to appreciate that. Oh I do. 538 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: But I'm not rooting as much as those fans deserve this. 539 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: Those you know, I'm actually rooting for my friends and 540 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: family because whenever you would say you were from Cincinnati, 541 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: inevitably you would get the following, all the Bungles, always 542 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: always so to get there to be proud. You got 543 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: your quarterback, you got your wide receiver, you got a 544 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: good running back. I go back to September where we 545 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: thought their head coach me get fired, Like you know, 546 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: that's how crazy this season's been. I'll leave you with this, 547 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: or if you can leave me with this, the cool 548 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: spots for us to go in Los Angeles. I mean, 549 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: you know what's going on. Yeah, I'll give you the list. 550 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: Here you go, okay. Number one. Number one is Craigs. 551 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: It's the old Major d from Dantana's. He's got a spot. Now. 552 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: This is where I saw on TMZ that Kanye and 553 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: someone else was there, so that must be cool. I'm 554 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: told Delilah is the hot club. Guys like us will 555 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: not be allowed in necessarily, but that is where people go. 556 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: And the last one is a little place that my guy, 557 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: Walker Hayes sings so beautifully about. It's a little restaurant 558 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: called Applebee's and that is where I will probably be 559 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: most nights getting my chicken fingers or mozzarella sticks. Uh. 560 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: Does Walker Hayes know that he ruined CBS's halftime show. 561 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: I thought I thought just the opposite. I thought that 562 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: those guys were talking over Walker Hayes, and I found anxious. 563 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: I need to hear I need to hear Da Burlison 564 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: saying we need to establish the run. Give me the 565 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: Walker Hayes. What Boomer Assias and saying in that segment 566 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: that I need to hear that exactly. Oh that's great, Peter. 567 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: Thank you and hopefully we'll cross paths with you in LA. 568 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: I would love to see you guys. You got the 569 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: best show still, Dan. I appreciate you having me on. 570 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 571 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 572 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 573 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 574 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey, 575 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on 576 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: my podcast, Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your 577 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: typical sports pod pushing the same tired narratives down your 578 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: throat every day. Straight Fire gives you honest opinions on 579 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: all the biggest sports headlines, accurate stats to help you 580 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: win big at the sports book, and all the best guests. 581 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: Do yourself a favor and listen to Straight Fire with 582 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 583 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. NFL Network reporting that Eric b 584 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: Enemy will get an interview with the New Orleans Saints. 585 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Byron Leftwich gets an opportunity there. 586 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if Brian Flores is still in the mix, 587 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: but you know, there's a lot of a lot of 588 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: moving parts going on. As Brian Flores in the mix 589 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: with the Texans certainly sounds like that. I was surprised 590 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: that Josh McCown is getting that much interest from the 591 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: Texans because he has no head coaching experience whatsoever. He 592 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: knows a lot of people and he was with a 593 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: lot of teams. Doug Peterson got the job with the 594 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, and I don't know if Byron Leftwich took 595 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: his name out when he knew he wasn't going to 596 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: get the job. I know that he wanted to have 597 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: a different GM in place, which certainly understandable. Dolphins, Saints, 598 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: Texans are coachlest right now. The Vikings, I guess they're 599 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: going to hire Kevin O'Connell, the Rams offensive coordinator. Tony 600 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: Dungee kind enough to join US Hall of Fame coach 601 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: and won some Super Bowls as a player with the Steelers, 602 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: as a head coach with the Colts, and the Rooney 603 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: role was created back in two thousand and two. That 604 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: was a reaction to when Tony got fired with the Buccaneers. 605 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: Dennis Green in the Minnesota Vikings also got fired as well, 606 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: and Tony joins us. We'll get to that topic in 607 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: a moment here. Tony, I'm curious how much of an 608 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: advantage it'll be for Sean McVeagh having already coached in 609 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. Well, it's interesting and Son said after 610 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: their Super Bowl lost any England, he did some things wrong, 611 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: he overthought things in those two weeks. He if he 612 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: went back, he would do things a little differently, and 613 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: I know he's learned from that. I was in Cincinnati 614 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: on Wednesday interviewing Zach Taylor. Zach Taylor was on that staff. 615 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: He was at that game. He did it too, so 616 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't the head coach, but he was there and 617 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: he was watching everything Sean did. He saw the schedule. 618 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: He had the benefit of being there also, So I 619 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: think it's going to be minimal advantage. You have two 620 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: guys that kind of went through it at the same 621 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: time in twenty nineteen. And also coaches have talked about 622 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: you if you go in with a game plan, you 623 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: have to be ready to adjust your game plan, because 624 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: your game plan really is dictated by what happens in 625 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: the game itself. Like you can't just say this is 626 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: what we're doing. We're going to continue to do that, 627 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: right you fall into that trail you can't. But I 628 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: will tell you this, and Sean's right that two weeks 629 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: can get to you. You're used to planning and taking 630 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: a week and go, and now you've got an extra 631 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: week and you start the second gets yourself. I know 632 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: I've told you the story. We went a whole week 633 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: saying we're not gonna let Devin Hester touch the ball. 634 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: And the second week I started thinking about it. Here 635 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: at Chapel Service, the guy talks about David and Goliath, 636 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: and he said, you can't be scared of the giant. 637 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: And at the last minute I changed my mind and said, 638 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: you know what, Guy's Saturday night before the game, I 639 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: hope we lose the toss. We're gonna kick off the 640 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: Devin Hester. When we pound him, We're gonna send the message. 641 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: They're gonna know we mean business. If we'd only had 642 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: a week, Devin Hester would have never touched the ball. Wait, 643 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: are you blaming the preacher, who's the Chaplin. I blamed 644 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: him and he takes total responsibility before and then you 645 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: know what he told me afterwards, Dan, He said, no, no, 646 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: you got the wrong message from that. It wasn't the day. 647 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: It wasn't afraid. You gotta know the week spot. He 648 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: had Goliath right between the eyes. You gotta go for 649 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: the week spot. That's why I wish you'd told me 650 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: that Saturday night. Yeah, I think this is the anniversary. 651 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: I think fifteen years ago it is, Yeah, fifteen years 652 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: ago tonight. What did you feel like after winning a 653 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? You know, I won one as a player, 654 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: and it was a real thrill and it was great 655 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: to be part of it. But when you're the head 656 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: coach and you win the game and you get up 657 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: on that podium and you're looking down and you see 658 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: not only your players, but your staff down there and 659 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: their families, and then you look up in the stands 660 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: and you see your fans and they're holding up signs. 661 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: And then you go back to the parade in your 662 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: city and you realize that this is bigger than just 663 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: a team accomplishment. You felt I felt like, man, you know, 664 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: the city of Indianapolis, the state of Indiana, the arsays everybody, 665 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: our whole organization. You just feel really really proud. And 666 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: then of course my year it was even a little 667 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: bit more special Lovey Smith than I and African American 668 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: coaches for forty years, the first time anybody had been 669 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: in that game. And then you get notes. I got 670 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: a telegram I mentioned you in the past, got a 671 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: telegram from Bill Russell saying congratulations, welcome to the club. 672 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: And you can't put you can't put words to that. 673 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: But how much pressure are you carrying in a situation? 674 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: Even though it was Lovey Smith, so two African American coaches, 675 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: But was there extra pressure of being African American head 676 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: coach in a Super Bowl? I think there would have 677 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: been had Lovey not been on the other side, there 678 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: would have been you know, we we knew at that point, Hey, 679 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: history is going to be made, somebody's going to win it, 680 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: and you know we're going to be able to say, 681 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, these African American coaches can coach on the 682 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: same level. But had I've been in there by myself, 683 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: I think I would have felt a little bit more, Hey, 684 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: we've got to win this just to show people we 685 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: can do this. I was wondering about coaches who don't 686 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: call plays. Are you aware of what the plays are? 687 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: Are you listening? Oh to absolutely okay, And you had 688 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: the final say on everything. You know, Tom Moore would 689 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: call our offensive plays and I'm sitting there and I'm saying, 690 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: no time, I want to run or I want to 691 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: get the ball to Marvin Harrison. And situation Ron Meeks 692 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: was calling my defensive calls. Hey, no, I want a blitz. 693 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: I want to put pressure on him. Ninety percent of 694 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: the time you're on the same page and you've been 695 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: in the meetings and you know what the game plan 696 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: is for these situations. But there are times when you 697 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: know you you just impose your will. Hey, I want 698 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: to do this. We're ahead by eight points. Tom, We're 699 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: gonna run the ball three times and kick a field goal. 700 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: I know you don't want to do that, but that's 701 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. But you got to do this 702 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: in a in a small window, though, Tony, because you're 703 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, so you're gonna have a play getting ready 704 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: to be called into Peyton and then you're there listening, 705 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: and then you could say no, no, no, I don't 706 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to run that so Peyton's waiting for 707 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: the call to come in. Yeah, no, and good coach, 708 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: you're thinking ahead. It's not in the moment. You wait 709 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: until the moment I'm talking to Tom before the play runs. Hey, 710 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: if we do this, we won't want to think about that. Yeah, 711 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: you're involved, and Payton over rule you. How often would 712 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: Peyton go? Now, well, well he always had the final say, 713 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: and because we're going to send, Tom would send in 714 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: three plays, Hey, run left, run right, or throw And 715 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: you know he had that choice. Of course he sees 716 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: something different, he's going to audible to it. That was 717 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: the beauty of our system. We got the plays in 718 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: so fast with the no huddle that he's got twenty 719 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: twenty five seconds at the line to run what he wants. 720 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: But we all know, we kind of know the game play. 721 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: Talking to Tony Dungee, the Hall of Fame coach, when 722 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: your defensive coach, defensive minded form of defensive back, what 723 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: would you do to a Joe Burrow or try to 724 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: get him to do or not do? I think all 725 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: of these guys, they're so talented right now, the weaponry 726 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: is so good. You have to make them make a 727 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: lot of throws. You can't kind of like people were 728 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: playing Kansas City. You can't give up the two play 729 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: touchdown drive, the adr touchdown pass. So you've got to 730 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: make them make a lot of throws and then you've 731 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: got to get pressed. To me, that is going to 732 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: be the whole key with this game. The offensive line 733 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: of the Bengals. They played well against Kansas City, they 734 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: struggled against Tennessee. This is the best defensive line they're 735 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: gonna see. How are they going to handle Aaron Donald, 736 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd von Miller and create protection. If they give 737 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: Borough time, they're gonna pick this secondary part. As good 738 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: as those players are, as good as Jalen Rams is, 739 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: they can't cover those guys. If Burrow has time. I 740 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: still go back to what Cincinnati did to Kansas City 741 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: in the second half, And for the life of me, 742 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: I can't understand why you don't run the ball. I 743 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: get to say, if they're gonna play seven defensive backs 744 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: and have a spy on Mahomes, why don't I just 745 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: take some clock away run the football. Well, Kansas City 746 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: doesn't like to run, and everybody knows that. And unfortunately, 747 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: sometimes you have to do other thing that I thought 748 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: Kansas City didn't do. If you think back to that 749 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: first half, very few long passes. Get the ball out quick, 750 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: guys are open, hit them. Take the seven yard game. 751 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: In the second half, Patrick wasn't doing that. And I 752 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: don't think it was because the guys were covered. It's because, Okay, 753 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm a little bored with that six yard game and 754 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: that seven yard game. Let me see if i can 755 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: get one now. And the game tightened up a little 756 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: bit and I need a big play, and he passed 757 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: up a lot of open guys in the second half. Yeah, 758 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. I think ego got in 759 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: the way. I really do. It's funny you mentioned it, though, 760 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: because when we had the Chiefs on earlier and Rodney, 761 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: as you know, Rodney Harrison now was at the stadium, 762 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: so he's doing a lot of the interviews and stuff. 763 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: And I said, ask Andy Reid this for me, this 764 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: is one question I'd like to ask if I was there. 765 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: You've got Mahomes, You've got all these receivers and you 766 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: love to throw. Is it hard for you to call 767 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: a running play because you want to see Patrick Mahomes 768 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 1: with the ball in his hand, because you have chances 769 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: to run, and Andy's always been a past first guy 770 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: all the way back to Philadelphia. But I think it's 771 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: getting harder and harder for those guys to call runs. 772 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: Your initial reaction to the Ryan Laur's lawsuit was what 773 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: you know? I have not read the lawsuit yet. It's 774 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: fifty eight pages. I want to read the whole thing. 775 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: My initial reaction was frustration. And Brian Flores is saying 776 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: I believe he is saying what a lot of people 777 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: are talking about casually and conversation. He just brought it. 778 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: He's frustrated with the system right now. And I'm going 779 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: to have a lot more to say on this next week. 780 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: But I think right now the NFL has a problem 781 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: because you've got African American employees, especially coaches, who are 782 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: frustrated with the system right now. If Brian Flores had 783 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: called you before filing that lawsuit, what would you have 784 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 1: told him? Probably make sure you know what you're doing, 785 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: and this is what you want to do, and this 786 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: is how you want to bring it to light. It's interesting, John, 787 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned two thousand and two, Johnny Cochrane and Cyrus 788 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: Mary had a meeting with the NFL and they said, Hey, 789 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: We've got some issues here. We've got African American coaches 790 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: being fired with winning records, being fired in the playoffs. 791 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,959 Speaker 1: We've got limited access to African American coaches getting into 792 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: the system. These guys are upset. This was twenty years ago, 793 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: and he said, we need to sit down at the 794 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: table and you need to listen to them because the 795 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: next step is going to be litigation. And I remember 796 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: Johnny Cochrane saying this very very loudly, NFL, you do 797 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: not want litigation. And the Fritzpolo line lens came into effect. 798 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: We had some things going, the Rooney Rule gets put 799 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: in place, diversity committees, those type of things. So I 800 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: think Johnny Cochrane kind of predicted that this might happen. 801 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: One day. Chris Carter was on Good Morning Football and 802 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: NFL Network today and he said he was asked about 803 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: what do we do, how do we make this better? 804 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: And I'm paraphrasing, but it was, let's groom these coaches, 805 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: these assistant coaches, these minority coaches, on how what to 806 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: expect in the interviews, prepare them better. And I don't 807 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: know if if you can just sort of wave a 808 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 1: wand like that and go. We're going to prepare Eric 809 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: b Enemy to be a head coach. I don't know 810 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: if you can do that, but I did you know. 811 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: I was interested with what Chris Carter had to say. 812 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: I can appreciate that. My personal opinion is the problem 813 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: is not on the supply side. The problem is on 814 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,760 Speaker 1: the demand side. And there's one and I have one. 815 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to be on a soapbox about this until 816 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: they change it. I think the process is flawed for everybody, 817 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: and that's why we have a lot of bad decisions 818 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: made and we have a lot of one year two 819 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: year hires, and it really hurts minority candidates. And I'll 820 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: tell you why. We are interviewing these coaches during the playoffs, 821 00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: and I think that's terribly wrong. It's terribly unfair you. 822 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: You cannot tell me that I can prepare to play 823 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and I'm trying to stop them 824 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: as a defensive coordinator. And then I can take a 825 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: time out on Friday afternoon at four o'clock an interview 826 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: with you, Dan, and you're asking me questions about your 827 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: organization and your team, and you want me to be 828 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: specific about how I'm going to make your team better, 829 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: and then after that interview go back to my thoughts 830 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: on the Chiefs. And no one can be as prepared 831 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: in that situation as the person who's not in the playoffs. 832 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: I was in the playoffs in Minnesota three years, interviewed 833 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 1: a couple of times, didn't get the jobs. That one 834 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: year we didn't make it. I had three interviews with 835 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,399 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I was able to be very 836 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: specific about what I wanted to do. I end up 837 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: getting that job. I don't think it was a coincidence 838 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 1: when people say so and so came in and blew 839 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: me away in the interview. Well, I could blow you 840 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: away too, if I had a week to look at 841 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: your roster and look at your past drafts and look 842 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: at how I would do it and set things up 843 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: and make a PowerPoint presentation. And now you're Eric, and 844 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: these African American coaches, who are who's getting the interviews? 845 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: You tell me Eric b enemy Leslie Fraser, Byron Leftwich, 846 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, these aren't coaches who aren't in the playoffs. 847 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: Because if you're African American and you're not in the playoffs, 848 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: you're probably not getting an interview. Have you talked to. 849 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: Have you conveyed this to the c I've said this 850 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: for five years. I think this is wrong. I think 851 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 1: interviewing coaches in the middle of the playoffs it's detrimental 852 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: to them and it's detrimental to the team because you 853 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: don't get a good impression of someone that can't be 854 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: prepared as prepared as someone who has had a week 855 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: and a half to do nothing but prepared for your interview. Yeah, 856 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: I can't. You know, everybody keeps saying that Eric B. 857 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: Enemy deserves a job. You know, I'm I'm all for that. 858 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 1: It feels like we're missing something here, Tony. Why does 859 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: Eric B. Enemy not have a head coaching job? I 860 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: know he's reportedly going to interview with the Saints. I 861 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: thought he was going to get the Vikings John so 862 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: which this year three of Eric B. Enemy doesn't have 863 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: a head coaching job. Why is that? I don't know why, 864 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: But all I can do is go back to my situation, 865 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: and I heard a lot of the same things in 866 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 1: the nineties. Well, Tony Dungey's very smart, he's a good coach. 867 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 1: He's been in some good systems. He's worked for Chuck Noll, 868 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: He's worked for Marty Schottenheimer, he's worked for Denny Green, 869 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: but his personality doesn't come across well in the interviews. 870 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,919 Speaker 1: He's not an overly aggressive guy. He's not this, he's 871 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,240 Speaker 1: not that, he doesn't interview. Well, that's what I heard 872 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: about myself thirty years ago or twenty five years ago. 873 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know, you know, it's that I wasn't 874 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: exactly what people were looking for. I'll give you a 875 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: perfect example. I interviewed with an organization. Thought it was 876 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: going really well. The last question the guy asked me. 877 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: He said, I understand you don't use profanity, you don't 878 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: raise your voice much. How are you going to motivate 879 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: my guys? And I said, I'll do it the way 880 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 1: I always have and the way my dad did it 881 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: with me. I'm going to show them that I care 882 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: about them, that I know what i'm doing, that I 883 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,280 Speaker 1: loved them, and I think I'll get that mutual respect 884 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: and they'll be motivated. That's what I've done with my 885 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: defenses over the years. Guy looked across with me, Dan 886 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: said that won't work in the NFL. That's not what 887 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: I'm looking for. Well, and then the word came out 888 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: that I didn't interview. Well. The next year I go 889 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: to Tampa, they asked me kind of the similar question. 890 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: I answered the same way. Mister Glazer said, that's how 891 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 1: I talked to my boys. That's who I want as 892 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: my head coach. So I think that's what Eric vannam 893 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: me needs. Somebody that just says you are the kind 894 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: of guy I'm looking for. Did you send a picture 895 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,879 Speaker 1: of your Super Bowl ring to that guy who said 896 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: that your style won't work in the NFL? We actually 897 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: play against them quite often, uh, in the upcoming years. 898 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: And he actually told me at an owners meeting I 899 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: was wrong. What was his name? Again, Tony, I can't 900 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: go into I wouldn't throw anybody under the bush. Do 901 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: you do you ever run into Tom Brady and Tampa 902 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: since you live there, like at the supermarket. Uh, not 903 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: at the supermarket or any of those places. I've seen 904 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: time a couple of times. And Clyde Christensen who was 905 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: on my staff as the quarterback coach there, so he 906 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: puts us in touch with each other periodically. And Thomas, 907 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: he's been amazing down here. He's turned turned the city 908 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: around and the Bucks fans around. They really have safe 909 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: travels to Los Angeles always great. My best to UH, 910 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 1: the family always great to talk to you. Thank you, brother, 911 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: I miss you. You know that