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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 2: A production of iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my

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Speaker 3: name is Noel.

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Speaker 4: They call me Ben. We're joyed as always with our

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Speaker 4: super producer Dylan the Tennessee hal Fagan. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 4: are here. That makes this the stuff they don't want

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Speaker 4: you to know. It's the top of the week, fellow

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Speaker 4: conspiracy realist, which means it's time for some strange news.

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Speaker 4: We've got some heist, We've got some true crime, not

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Speaker 4: in the way you might think, we've got some mysteries.

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Speaker 4: We've got a lot of stuff to talk about. Actually,

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Speaker 4: we're heavy on funny crime today.

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Speaker 2: It's true.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, We've even got some conundrums trying to think

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Speaker 3: about how we punish people for breaking things like traffic

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Speaker 3: breaking logs or traffic violations and things like that. How

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Speaker 3: do we do it here, how do other places do it?

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Speaker 3: And is there a better way?

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Speaker 4: There must be at Oh, it reminds me of this

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Speaker 4: statement that stuck with me because you guys know, I'm traveling.

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Speaker 4: I'm in a very crowded place, and one of the

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Speaker 4: best statements I heard about traffic recently is whenever you're

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Speaker 4: in a jam, you have to remember you're not in traffic,

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Speaker 4: you are traffic. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is it boneted of me just to blindly pay all

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Speaker 2: these traffic citations I get in the mail that claim

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Speaker 2: to have seen me on some sort of camera. No,

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Speaker 2: there's a lens to dispute it. But I usually missed

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Speaker 2: this window for the link. And then it's just like, well,

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Speaker 2: I guess I just have to give you my money.

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Speaker 3: Now you have to pay the fines. You do not

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Speaker 3: want a bench warrant?

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Speaker 4: No, No, I would if you don't, because you could

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Speaker 4: get jammed up so fast with a bench warrant. We're

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Speaker 4: all gonna you know what, We're also gonna solve the

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Speaker 4: mystery of the Bermuda Triangle, just in one sitting, because

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Speaker 4: get it. I said, get it. We'll keep it. Believe

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Speaker 4: it or not, folks, or get it, folks. We have somehow,

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Speaker 4: after more than a decade of podcasting, not done an

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Speaker 4: episode on the Bermuda Triangle.

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Speaker 2: How is this possible?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. We've done every other imaginable variation every shape.

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Speaker 2: We've covered all the other shapes, just not the right.

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Speaker 3: We made a video about the Bermuda triangle and then

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Speaker 3: the Dragon's triangle right, which was an equivalent place, and

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Speaker 4: Did it an episode of the on the Dragon's Triangle

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Speaker 4: for audio. But yeah, you're right, we never did the

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Speaker 4: Peruvian rhombus. We haven't done that. Oh yeah, sorry, the

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Speaker 4: Peruvian doom. You have to make it.

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Speaker 3: Something different.

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Speaker 4: Shape.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I will die on that hill something.

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Speaker 4: It's something we've made up here and we hope it

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Speaker 4: doesn't become.

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Speaker 2: A real spirits line is a shape component? Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'm not yes ending very.

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Speaker 4: So what if we since we're gonna cover so much

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Speaker 4: funny crime today, Uh, why why don't we just start

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Speaker 4: with parrots? Uh? You guys have heard the phrase stool pigeon, right, You.

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Speaker 2: Never fully understood where it came from.

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Speaker 3: Is it just what is that?

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Speaker 2: Is the stool referring to the seats or the excretion?

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Speaker 4: Know that.

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Speaker 2: It's a reasonable question.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we know that it's used nowadays to mean

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Speaker 4: a decoy, A pigeon used as a decoy was a

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Speaker 4: I think bit of a Benedict Arnold, A bit of

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Speaker 4: a Benedict Arnold, one of the only bad bends up

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Speaker 4: there with Benito Mussolini. We don't claim those bends, which

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Speaker 4: Try not, you know Ben Mussolini or or Ben Arnold. Uh.

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Speaker 4: This is a true story, folks. We owe a debt

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Speaker 4: of thanks to Mango the Parrot. Mango the Parrot said

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Speaker 4: the following in a video clip that actually helped solve

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Speaker 4: crime in the United Kingdom. I want to hear it

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Speaker 4: here it goes. I've got to keep it closed there,

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Speaker 4: replay it World War Decode.

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Speaker 2: Okay, keep it twenty five one more time.

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Speaker 3: No hold on.

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Speaker 2: Saying that that's the parrot an accent.

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Speaker 4: Understand because he was taught by people in the United Kingdom.

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Speaker 2: Does this not seem like an Agatha Christie plot twist?

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Speaker 4: Lang. Sure, police raided some homes in Blackpool and that's

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Speaker 4: where they discovered Mango the Parrot. He belonged to the

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Speaker 4: girlfriend of a drug gang ring leader named Adam Garnet.

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Speaker 4: Love it. So the the gang members who are now

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Speaker 4: Everybody in the crew loved Mango, so they would film

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Speaker 2: Parent like making it rain yes, okay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, like litl tay from back in the day.

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Speaker 4: And this drug ring was pretty profitable until they got caught.

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Speaker 4: H They had something to the tune of a million

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Speaker 4: pounds of narcotic prophets. And this is the bring leader

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Speaker 4: in fourteen people. So fifteen people all told thanks to

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Speaker 4: the testimony, can you parrot, you don't have to They

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Speaker 4: love to talk. That's you don't have to. You don't

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Speaker 4: have to jam up a parrot. They're so ready to

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Speaker 4: go anyway, this drug gang, thanks to Mango the Parrot's

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Speaker 4: police work and cooperation, they have been jailed for a

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Speaker 4: combined total of more than one hundred and three years.

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Speaker 4: So no judgment call, folks, But if you're up to

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Speaker 2: Who needs brother when you got Mango the parent.

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Speaker 3: It's only the second person that I've cared about named Mango.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 2: We love Mango. There's a real person in our lives

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Speaker 2: name that goes by Mango. It's true.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the legendary Mangesh had a gutur. If you ever

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Speaker 4: see him involved in a podcast, check it out immediately.

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Speaker 2: Seal of quality, the Mango. Seal of quality is what

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Speaker 2: we call it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the Mango stamp. Guys, what if we do something

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Speaker 4: a little bit different for today? Do we want to

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Speaker 4: pause for a word from a sponsor and then just

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Speaker 4: like Round Robin with stories?

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Speaker 2: I think so?

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Speaker 3: That sounds good, Matt.

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Speaker 4: What's some strange news on your mind?

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Speaker 3: Oh, buddy, I've got some really interesting strange news today.

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Speaker 3: If we want to get into this. We were talking

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Speaker 3: vastly different ways that punishments are doled out. All right, well,

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Speaker 2: All people should be equal in the eyes of the law.

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Speaker 3: But the way it less they're diplomats, yes, unless they're diplomats.

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Speaker 3: If they're not diplomats, then the way it affects every

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: Because if let's say it's a five hundred dollars fine

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Speaker 3: for speeding, Okay, yeah, it's gonna hit some people as

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Speaker 3: a devastating blow, right, but from other people it's like

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Speaker 3: And that's just the reality of it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's an interesting thing to bring up there, Matt,

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Speaker 4: because there is a country, I want to say, it

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Speaker 4: may be Finland. There's a Scandinavian country where you're fine

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks for scooping it, ben geez, take it.

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Speaker 4: Back, take it back, give it to us.

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Speaker 2: What happens in Finland, well, Scandinavia.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't seem right the way it's currently done. So

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Speaker 3: there is a potential fix for this problem, guys. And

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Speaker 3: it comes to us from countries like Switzerland, Germany and Austria,

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Speaker 3: and there are many more. By the way, the Nordic country.

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Speaker 3: There was a gentleman, a gentleman who was caught going

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Speaker 4: I know, well, fancy place.

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Speaker 3: I don't, I don't listen it. He was going seventeen

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Speaker 3: I got ninety thousand Swiss frogs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, ninety thousand Swiss seventeen miles over here.

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Speaker 2: That wouldn't even be considered like a super speeder ticket,

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Speaker 4: Right, Right, it's Europe, so it's going to be more strict,

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Speaker 2: So why are they why are they jamming this guy

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Speaker 3: This person is a repeat offender, at least according to

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Speaker 4: The bank, financial your social and financial content.

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Speaker 3: So if you are someone who has almost no wealth,

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Speaker 4: For say a podcaster, Yeah, if you're a.

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Speaker 2: Now, I am not against this idea of letting the

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah againness, what we talked about, a lot of

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Speaker 3: Well, can you imagine a computer just telling you, hey.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes I can't. I can't because it's a calculation. This. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Well, we certainly talked about how the algorithm based crime

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Speaker 3: Minds, we have an idiocracy right now, Shut the hell up.

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Speaker 4: Evidence and stuff. You know.

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Speaker 2: The one thing that didn't age well about that move

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, that's like right the point, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And we have returned with more strange news. Gonna lead

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Speaker 4: What is this, suspect?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me about of this labooboo?

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Speaker 4: When wld suspect?

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Speaker 3: Where should we start?

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Speaker 2: but well, then tell us about those These kinds of

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Speaker 2: satanic and their demonic and must be stopped.

441
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Speaker 4: Because their browser far road. They have pointy teeth, they're

442
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 4: plush toys.

443
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Speaker 2: Horse.

444
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the Buddy Rabbit fairy.

445
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: One man's buy another man's horns, devil.

446
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 4: I've always yeah, we've always said that on the show.

447
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: Sure.

448
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 4: This is also I think you yailed it with the

449
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 4: manufactured scarcity so much so that there's an entire global

450
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 4: industry of something called la fufu or boo boo. This

451
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 4: for sure knockoff ones. Yeah.

452
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Speaker 2: I was just hanging out having an adventure in our

453
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: lovely area of Buford Highway here in Atlanta, which is

454
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: a mecca of amazing ethnic cuisine and you know, shopping

455
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: and you know everything from Vietnamese bond me shops to

456
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: excellent tal Koreas. And I was at this really incredible

457
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: karaoke shop that just sells. You probably know all about

458
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: this bend with your travels. But like, karaoke is huge

459
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: obviously in Japan, and there's lots of like different CDs

460
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: you can get that have specific visuals and artists that

461
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: are specifically kind of karaoke fied. So this is a

462
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Speaker 2: shop that's devoted to that. And behind the counter they

463
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: had a string of la booboo fau boo boos hanging

464
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Speaker 2: and I was like, surely those can't be authentic. I

465
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Speaker 2: didn't ask, but if they were authentic, I think they

466
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: would have been selling for quite quite a bit more money.

467
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Speaker 3: Now, okay, guys, is it that this is all I

468
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Speaker 3: know of? This kind of blind oh you know boo? Well,

469
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Speaker 3: I imagine I'm bringing it up again. Sorry, stuff. They

470
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Speaker 3: don't want you to sandwich the way I imagine is

471
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 3: like the Magic the Gathering cards. They sell them on purpose,

472
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: in those ten to fifteen packs that you don't know

473
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Speaker 3: what's inside it, you get the lottery.

474
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of built in redundant purchasing built into

475
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Speaker 2: this miles.

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Speaker 4: We'll say exactly, yeah, yeah.

477
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Speaker 3: But so there are certain ones like the like those

478
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Speaker 3: cards where like a couple.

479
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Speaker 2: Of them are there's like a one that's called a

480
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Speaker 2: gold go Boo Boo.

481
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Speaker 4: I think, guys, my girlfriend taught me this. For these

482
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 4: kinds of collectibles, they're called chasers, the ones that would

483
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Speaker 4: be the equivalent of the rare MTG.

484
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Speaker 2: The golden tickets from the Wonka Fame. Yeah, for sure,

485
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Speaker 2: I think there literally is one that's called a twenty

486
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: four carrot gold laboob but I don't think it actually

487
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: is made of twenty four carret col But that is

488
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: one of the most sought after ones, and they're auctioning

489
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Speaker 2: for upwards of twenty cat.

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Speaker 4: So, Noel, riddle, be this, Why are we bringing up

491
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 4: La Boo Boo? Why the sudden interest?

492
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Speaker 2: Yep? Then I just mentioned that story there out of

493
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and there is actually another story. This is

494
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: good news. This came on August to twelfthugh just yesterday

495
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: as we record this. Whereas the previous story was a

496
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: week or so old. Police recover thirty thousand dollars worth

497
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Speaker 2: of laboo boots and foiled Southern California heist. Thousands of

498
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Speaker 2: dollars worth of highly collectible Leabuobu figurines were discovered recovered

499
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Speaker 2: rather during a burglary investigation in San Bernardino County authorities

500
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Speaker 2: announced earlier this week in all fourteen boxes. That's only

501
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: fourteen boxes of the furry little monsters, which are currently

502
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: having a huge popular culture moment where the estimate of

503
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Speaker 2: thirty grand will recovered. Police say, how is that possible?

504
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: Aren't they're tiny?

505
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 2: Right?

506
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 4: Aren't they small?

507
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 2: They recover their medium recover.

508
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 4: They recovered it from the scalpers who had already inflated

509
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Speaker 4: the price.

510
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Speaker 2: That's yeah, yeah, exactly what they are worth on the

511
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Speaker 2: open market, not not the yeah, exactly, not retail.

512
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 4: Do they have a drug bust photo? You do? Yes,

513
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 4: drugs on.

514
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 2: The table, boo boos on the boxes. Yeah, look for yourself.

515
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 3: And there's only fourteen.

516
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: They literally are. You can see every single one of them.

517
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: And obviously this is a associated with this company called PopMart,

518
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: which is very popular place that you might only find

519
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: in bigger cities. They are really, really neat. I'm a

520
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: huge blind box fan. I have no skin in the

521
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: game as far as like I need to get this one.

522
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: I just think they're fun. I enjoy getting them, and

523
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: there's certain designers that I like, but I'm not about that.

524
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Speaker 3: Life writer and I have gotten several Pokemon like blind

525
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: boxes like that we really like.

526
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, I'm losing so I'm losing my shirt to

527
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 4: these la boo boo and these. I got a waker

528
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 4: up and ask what the other ones are, but they

529
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: they run my gibs.

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00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: What there's I've been to the Popmark over at Themology,

531
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Speaker 3: Orgia and walked in and it was or it wasn't

532
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: power it was a different one, but it perhaps it

533
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: was an entire store of shelves of these boxes.

534
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, mikills and shelves.

535
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: They're huge.

536
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I've been to a couple of pop marts. There's one

538
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: in the Oculus World Trade in New York. Qu that

539
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 2: that that train stop the oc was that weird mall

540
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: is one in there that I was at recently, and

541
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 2: there are lines out the door. Often because again to

542
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: the perceived scarcity of it all, most of these brick

543
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: and mortar shops are very small, and that's sort of

544
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: by design.

545
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 4: And you also have to get this, guys. To accelerate this,

546
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 4: you also often have to enter a lottery for the

547
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: ability to enter the store and shop. You have to

548
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 4: pay to win a chance to spend money, which is

549
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 4: ethics aside, brilliant and anybody listening, I need your help,

550
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: uh not entirely with my consent. My house is slowly

551
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 4: turning into one of the stores.

552
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not far off.

553
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 4: Welcome, huge, huge fan of these.

554
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: We got him lining every window still in the spot.

555
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: But I don't have a labooboo and don't really care

556
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: too much about it. So this this took up a

557
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: lot more time than I was expecting. But it is

558
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: interesting in this whole perceived scarcity and the fact that

559
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: this dude that created this quite a while ago, to

560
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: you know, very niche acclaim is now a multi billionaire

561
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: ben you were mentioning young young dude too.

562
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a young man with a incredibly tragic backstorre.

563
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 4: His name's Cossing Long, Hong Kong illustrator and the popmark designer.

564
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 4: He's clearly best known for Boo Boo. But we were

565
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 4: I think we were all surprised to learn that he

566
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Speaker 4: is actually I don't remember a specific net worth, but

567
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Speaker 4: he is a billionaire. He's pretty young as billionaires go,

568
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 4: about fifty two years old. He's a self made man,

569
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Speaker 4: which we love to see.

570
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought he was a little younger than that,

571
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: but I guess his billionaires ago that is someone so

572
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: this Quskin. That's yeah, that's very true. So real quick,

573
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Speaker 2: I just want to mention a couple other stories. A

574
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: swarm of jellyfish took out a French nuclear power plant.

575
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: Basically this, this power plant, the Gravelin's nuclear power station

576
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: in France, had to go offline due to a massive

577
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Speaker 2: storm of jellyfish that clogged up its cooling systems. And

578
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: WECE does a really fun job of putting this in

579
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Speaker 2: underdog story terms. They say, actually in the article by

580
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Speaker 2: Lewis Prada, if you've ever felt powerless, remember that a

581
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: bunch of spineless, brainless sea creatures that look like floating

582
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: plastic grocery bags just temporarily shut down one of Europe's

583
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Speaker 2: biggest nuclear power plants. So you know, take that for

584
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Speaker 2: what it's worth. It's a it's a story of inspiration.

585
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: You may not be that powerful, but if you are many,

586
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: you can make things happen.

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00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. It's like the plot of the movie

588
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: Ants or A Bug's Life.

589
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 4: Or World Z plot. Yeah, the plot of literally every

590
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 4: revolution in human history. Are leader of us that there

591
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: are of them, we are Spartacus.

592
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So that's the real quick mention of that one.

593
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: And the last one that I just think is fun.

594
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: In Ohso, Florida is a dude wearing a Chuck E

595
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: Cheese mascot outfit at an actual Chuck E Cheese restaurant

596
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: in Tallahassee, Florida, was escorted out by police and handcuffs

597
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: with the head on and everything, right in the middle

598
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: of taking photos with children. Wow, I think he has

599
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: a little poor form from the Tallahassee Police Department. Gotta

600
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: say whatever this man did, which was like, I think

601
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: he made some illegal purchases on a stolen credit card.

602
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: Not cool, had a little lead on him, had done

603
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: some credit card from the past. Okay, but come on, man,

604
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: purp walking Chucky Entertainment.

605
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: Here's my theory what I saw this. My theory was

606
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 4: this guy. Hopefully I'm painting him as an anti hero

607
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: in my mind. Folks. He was getting arrested right and

608
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 4: they were like, take off your cut, to take off

609
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: your mask, and he said, no, I'm going down the

610
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 4: way I came up the mouse.

611
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: Well, apparently they did take the head off once they

612
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: got to the police car, adding to the trauma of

613
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: the young l Yeah, that's exactly right. And then the report,

614
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: the reporting from Fox thirty five or Orlando. I'm just

615
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: going to read the headlines because it has the most

616
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: heartbreaking quote from one of the small children who's clearly traumatized.

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00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 2: Chuck E. Cheese mascot arrests leaves impression on Florida family.

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Speaker 4: Quote.

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Speaker 2: Does this mean Chucky's gone forever? So, by the way,

620
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Speaker 2: I misspoke earlier and called him Chucky Entertainment, It's Charles Entertainment. Y, Yes,

621
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: put some respect on his name.

622
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 4: It's only Chuck if you know him personally.

623
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Charles w Chuck Entertainment.

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00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 4: Hey.

625
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: So that's all, y'all. You know, nothing really analysis wise

626
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: we're going into on this one. Just a little bit

627
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: of an excessive force on the part of cops and

628
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: punishment not quite fitting the crime. Couldn't they have waited

629
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: until he got off.

630
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 4: His shift and not ruined things for the kids, you know,

631
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Speaker 4: because also the parents are trying to do something fun

632
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 4: for their It's it's weird anyway. Also, tell us last

633
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: time you purp walked in mascott? Oh.

634
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: I do want to add a funny little detail. Law enforcement,

635
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: it says in the Orlando piece has not yet said

636
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: whether the costume disguise was used with intent to evade detection,

637
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: which could lead to a further charge.

638
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Speaker 3: That would be amazing.

639
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: Here jamming this guy seriously, man, we've been jamming. We've

640
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: been jamming on jamming up this entire episode, by the way,

641
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: which I love. Authorities have not confirmed whether additional charges

642
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: are pending, but so far we have the possession charge

643
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: and the credit card fraud charge. I will just say,

644
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: as we close this sex segment out that there is

645
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Speaker 2: a new Chuck E Cheese concept coming to America that

646
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: is for adults only. It's not good.

647
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Speaker 3: There's one in them all, Georgia.

648
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: It seems like it wouldn't be good.

649
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: It's terrible.

650
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: It seems awful. It's like sub sub Dave Inbusters.

651
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 4: Yep, it's no Club Apple. You guys remember that sometimes

652
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 4: Apple's right, Missigan Control Paul Decade. Yeah, Club Apple was

653
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: a was an effort by the Applebee's company to have

654
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: a more of a late night disco vibe for the swingers.

655
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. All right, let's take a quick break here

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Speaker 2: at word from a sponsor and then come back with

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Speaker 2: Ben's Strange News of the.

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Speaker 4: Day, and we have returned, folks. We're gonna move quickly

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Speaker 4: through some things for time. In the last act of

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Speaker 4: our weekly Strange News segment, I want to start with

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Speaker 4: a correction to an earlier story. While Cosin was the

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Speaker 4: guy who originally designed low Boo Boo the billionaire, the

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Speaker 4: guy who made the money off of Edison style is

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Speaker 4: the PopMart CEO Wong Ning. He is thirty eight. His

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Speaker 4: net worth is something like twenty two point one billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's not the Boo Boo guy.

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Speaker 4: Guy is the guy who made the money off the

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Speaker 4: boogoo by using PopMart. The artist because Sing Lung is

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Speaker 4: doing well for himself.

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Speaker 2: But he's not not the billionaire. Okay, Because some of

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Speaker 2: the reporting was a little vague around that. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: the clarification. It feels a little tesla Edison does not.

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Speaker 2: Don't disagree or a little there's a tesla tesla like Elon,

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Speaker 2: you know, his whole grabby hands at other people's ideas.

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Speaker 4: And congratulations to you, Elon, you're a big fan of

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Speaker 4: the show. I'm assuming you just got a promotion as well. Yeah,

677
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Speaker 4: and I hope big balls is okay. I heard he

678
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Speaker 4: got beat up by a bunch of kids.

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Speaker 3: Did you see his the payscale for that guy in

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Speaker 3: the pay package?

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Speaker 2: Yes, talking about I think he got a big old

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Speaker 2: like stock.

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Speaker 4: It's massive. These aren't even the stories to close out

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Speaker 4: the last part of our Strange News segment, Folks, there's

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Speaker 4: our big last story. We talked about the Bermuda triangle

686
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Speaker 4: at the top. We wanted to deliver on this. There

687
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Speaker 4: is a guy who says he has solved the Bermuda triangle.

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Speaker 2: Thank you God, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Just sat down. He figured it out in my in

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Speaker 4: my head. You know what I'm picturing is the guy

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Speaker 4: just found out about the Bermuda triangle, like earlier in August,

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Speaker 4: and he said, well, no one's really figured this out.

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Speaker 4: And they said, no, we don't, we don't know. And

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Speaker 4: he said, kriikey and he sat my Foster's.

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Speaker 3: You guys, do you ever wonder if it takes somebody

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Speaker 3: who has no context for a problem es to be

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Speaker 3: able to analyze it and then actually see the thing

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Speaker 3: that everybody else is blind to because they've been looking

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Speaker 3: at it for so long.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent that's why, that's why so many revolutionary

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Speaker 4: breakthroughs in mathematics come from very young mathematicians.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: Arguably that's why certain musical musical prodigies haven't heard a

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Speaker 4: lot of stuff before and then just know it. You

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Speaker 4: know it'd be really it's there are a lot of

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Speaker 4: weird experiments. Actually in that regard, I'm making the mad

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Speaker 4: scientists face. Okay, there are some experiments we could do

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Speaker 4: if ethics weren't a thing. But I love your point, Matt,

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Speaker 4: because our pal here, Carl Kruzelnikki, is an Australian scientist

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Speaker 4: and hearing the headline this guy solved the Bermuda triangle

711
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Speaker 4: instantly makes us think of allegations of the paranormal, the supernatural,

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Speaker 4: conspiracy theories. He doesn't subscribe to any of that. He

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Speaker 4: thinks it's wackado. Let's go to an article in Popular

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Speaker 4: Mechanics We're big fans of Them by Tim Newcombe, which

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Speaker 4: was just published this August, August ninth, so mid birthday

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Speaker 4: season for us. Here's what here's what we would say. First,

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Speaker 4: we got to explain what the Bermuda triangle is for

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Speaker 4: anybody who may not have heard of it. I feel like,

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Speaker 4: if you are in the West. You were interested in

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Speaker 4: the paranormal. You've heard of the Bermuda Triangle, sometimes also

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Speaker 4: called the Devil's Triangle. It's just loose things sort of

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Speaker 4: like picture the points of the triangle being Bermuda, Puerto Rico, Florida,

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Speaker 4: right down down to the tippy tip of the Florida Peninsula,

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Speaker 4: which somehow sounds dirty. The idea of the the idea

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Speaker 4: of the Bermuda Triangle is that for time untold, some

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Speaker 4: vessels but not all vessels that enter this will mysteriously disappear.

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Speaker 5: Right, They might move through time, you know, yeah, get

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Speaker 5: like abducted or something, or like beamed up or down

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Speaker 5: or sucked into hell. Right, yeah, right, or there's so

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Speaker 5: many awesome theories exactly, some kind of like yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: taken to the depths exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And the thing is that ships and planes really

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Speaker 4: have disappeared in this area, because historically ships and planes

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Speaker 4: have disappeared in a lot of parts of the ocean.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, it's I mean, you know, how do

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Speaker 4: we define a disappearance. We're not defining it by an

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Speaker 4: accident happening. We're defining it by not finding the thing

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Speaker 4: after the accident. Occurs, and it turns out the ocean

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Speaker 4: is kind.

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Speaker 2: Of big and deep and deep.

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Speaker 4: The ocean's still deep, man. You got to ask it

743
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Speaker 4: about like Nietzche and jazz.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever watched The Wizard of Us with the

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Speaker 2: ocean with the sound turned off and the Dark Side

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Speaker 2: of the Moon playing?

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Speaker 3: What you can project Dark Side of the Moon into

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Speaker 3: the ocean? And and no way you would play Dark Side.

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Speaker 4: Of the Moon underneath the.

751
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Speaker 2: Ocean whilst projecting the Wizard of Oz from an original

752
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Speaker 2: thirty five millimeter print all the way down.

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Speaker 4: And obviously the ocean is such a cool cat. This

754
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Speaker 4: character talking about the ocean always wears sunglasses, smokes clothes,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and never knows where the

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Speaker 4: ship disappeared. He's like the ricky Spanish. That's a reference

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Speaker 4: for maybe three people anyway, So our buddy Carl here,

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Speaker 4: he looks into this and he's been doing it actually

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Speaker 4: for a number of years. He didn't just walk in

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Speaker 4: without context, and he admitted, yes, the sheer volume of

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Speaker 4: traffic in the Bermuda Triangle, which is also a tricky

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Speaker 4: place to navigate, may explain the may explain why ships

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Speaker 4: are missing. But he also argues we need to have

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Speaker 4: a larger context to this. In his research, when he

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Speaker 4: runs the statistics across the globe, he says, the number

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Speaker 4: of ships and planes that go missing in the Bermuda

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Speaker 4: Triangle is the same as anywhere in the world on

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Speaker 4: a percentage basis. And then he points out something really

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Speaker 4: interesting that I think a lot of us didn't A

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Speaker 4: lot of us didn't think through this when we were

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Speaker 4: kids reading about the Bermuda Triangle in the Mysteries of

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Speaker 4: the Unknown series or something. It's this, insurance companies don't

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Speaker 4: think there are any shenanigans about Lloyd's of London. Isn't

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Speaker 4: charging extra you know, they're not charging a Bermuda Triangle

775
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 4: paranormal danger fee? God, And wouldn't they?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they would.

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Speaker 3: I just had a realization in October when we go

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Speaker 3: on our Virgin cruise, guess.

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Speaker 4: Where we're going?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, wait a minute, what smack down through the Triangle?

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Speaker 2: No, thank you, sir madam. I'm out.

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Speaker 4: It's too late. Beside, it's signed to blood and that's

783
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Speaker 4: maybe it's for to it us then that we have

784
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Speaker 4: held our Bermuda Triangle episode for so long that we're

785
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Speaker 4: going to do ale episode in the Bermuda Triangle. So

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Speaker 4: that's why I was pitching it so hard. I think

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Speaker 4: it's cool. We could get T shirts with triangles on them.

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Speaker 3: I made a Bermuda Triangle episode in the Bermuda Triangle.

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Speaker 2: And all I got was this crummy Bermuda Triangle episode.

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Speaker 4: We can hand out triangles the musical instrument anyway.

791
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Speaker 2: Yes, triangle cuts through the mix.

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Speaker 4: I love the triangle too. I always wondered whether there

793
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 4: is someone who is like the world's best triangle player?

794
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 4: How would you define that? And all they do is

795
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Speaker 4: play the triangles?

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Speaker 2: Funny, did you know that the King of the Hill

797
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Speaker 2: theme is called Yahoos and Triangles? I only know that

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Speaker 2: because reboot, and it's amazing by the way, the reboot, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: but when the theme comes up, it says, Yahoo's in

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Speaker 2: triangles by the Refreshment's place. And I have never in

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Speaker 2: my life have I known that. And I've been watching

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Speaker 2: King of the Hills since I was a small child.

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Speaker 4: Oh my beautiful. And going back to our triangle in

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Speaker 4: Bermuda with a with again the crews we're talking about

805
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Speaker 4: as a true crime conspiracy cruise. We're doing a verge

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Speaker 4: of voyages from October tenth to the fifteenth. We don't

807
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Speaker 4: know if Carl is going to join us on this,

808
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 4: but it turns out Carl has been saying the same

809
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Speaker 4: thing consistently and the science keeps appearing to back up

810
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Speaker 4: what he is saying. When he looks through the stats,

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Speaker 4: he says that there is just a probability game and

812
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 4: good marketing and maybe some folklore. However, not everyone agrees,

813
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Speaker 4: So please join us when we go in depth, but

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Speaker 4: hopefully not to in depth, because that would mean the

815
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Speaker 4: ship is sinking. Whatever we're keeping it. We're not going

816
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Speaker 4: to in depth, but we are going in some depth

817
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: on the Bermuda Triangle live from the Bermuda Triangle. Please

818
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 4: do check it out. A couple of other things to

819
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Speaker 4: mention as we wrap Chick get your Gosh fantastic. Wanted

820
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Speaker 4: to end on a good note or an interesting note.

821
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Speaker 4: We'd love to hear everybody's thoughts about this. A Colorado

822
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Speaker 4: newspaper has asked the local government to give them three

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand US dollars to publish good news.

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Speaker 2: Okay, like I'm sorry, yeah, I anymore?

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Speaker 4: Right, that's that's the headline here. Yes, first, it raises

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Speaker 4: some questions. Right, There's a place called Douglas County, just

827
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Speaker 4: south south of Denver, and they the county government received

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Speaker 4: this proposition, perhaps an indecent proposal, from the publisher of

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Speaker 4: the Castle Pines Connection, and the idea was, look, you

830
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Speaker 4: give us some money, you you support us, we will

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Speaker 4: help make a positive impact on more residents in Douglas County,

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Speaker 4: will bring good news to the people.

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Speaker 2: Is that YouTube guy that did good news? Was that John?

834
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Speaker 2: It was a podcast or something it was. It was

835
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Speaker 2: during COVID. It was like John Krasinski did like good

836
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Speaker 2: news type videos that everyone was super stoked on for

837
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Speaker 2: a second.

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Speaker 1: Lame.

839
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Speaker 2: Now I think it's cool. I'm just sure.

840
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Speaker 4: I don't know. Our boss has said I tried to

841
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 4: pitch a good news podcast years and years ago, and

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00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 4: our boss has kind of had that same reaction you

843
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 4: just had.

844
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Speaker 2: Chomping on their cigars. Blades and blades can't get good stuff?

845
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Speaker 4: Is great?

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Speaker 2: That's what it was called.

847
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's very kind. I really I really believed it.

848
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Speaker 4: The question here for everybody is should the we all

849
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Speaker 4: know that print newspaper is in serious trouble in the

850
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Speaker 4: United States, but journalism is likewise imperiled. Should local governments

851
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Speaker 4: or any government be paying a private paper too, you know,

852
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Speaker 4: for the even if it's for the purposes of reporting

853
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Speaker 4: good news, or does that compromise the journalism? I genuinely

854
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 4: don't know.

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Speaker 2: Journalism is already kind of compromised a little bit. It

856
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Speaker 2: seems like, at least compromising it in a good vibes

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Speaker 2: kind of way.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting thing to think about, Ben, because it

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Speaker 3: makes me think about the NPR stuff, you know, public

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Speaker 3: news stuff like is it to receive money from a

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Speaker 3: government or whether it's local or federal? Is that compromising

862
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Speaker 3: it in some way?

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Speaker 2: Well, it depends on the nature of the relationship. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it can be seen as a perceived compromise. But like

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Speaker 2: you know, government funding for public broadcasting, for example, I

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Speaker 2: don't think even the BBC, I mean, do you think

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Speaker 2: there is an inherent expectation that the BBC is meant

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Speaker 2: to cover the crown and the royal family and the

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Speaker 2: government favorably? I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: Not favorably, but they do have some bright lines and

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Speaker 4: those are kind of already baked in because the United

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Speaker 4: Kingdom has some really touchy defamation and libel laws.

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Speaker 2: Like easier to achieve than here in the US.

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