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Speaker 2: the NFL. It is the flagship show. Sunday Recap Week fifteen.
Speaker 2: Week fifteen. Dan Hands is here. Greg Rosen thought, Mark
Speaker 2: Sessler he rose bol what's up? I'm okay, Yeah, we
Speaker 2: just learned or Mark reported this?
Speaker 3: I reported it.
Speaker 4: I'm okay that Actually, who was it?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 5: Zach Martin told Mike McCarthy. You know, if you watched
Speaker 5: the Cowboys Bills game, the right guard exited with an
Speaker 5: apparent injury, but told Mike McCarthy afterwards, I'm okay.
Speaker 2: Right, And then I was wondering how he said it
Speaker 2: because I thought that Mike relax, I'm okay.
Speaker 3: That is how it That's how it was for or
Speaker 3: Mike Relax.
Speaker 2: I'm okay. I mean Mike, Mike, Mike, I'm okay. Like
Speaker 2: which one wasn't?
Speaker 4: We don't know. Inflection tone matters.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was like Mike, I'm okay.
Speaker 4: That's aggressive. But I think they have more of a
Speaker 4: bond than that.
Speaker 3: I think the first one you did is probably at
Speaker 3: the closer the.
Speaker 4: Truth, Like we could do this for an hour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'd rather do that than get to some
Speaker 2: of the football today.
Speaker 4: Like I could just do this for.
Speaker 6: You've been doing it for five minutes, so I'm glad
Speaker 6: to have started this.
Speaker 3: It's really I'm actually talking about myself.
Speaker 2: I'm okay, all right, we have a lot to get
Speaker 2: to because, yes, we're coming down to the wire here
Speaker 2: of the regular season, only three games left for each
Speaker 2: team after Monday night. We have I want to say
Speaker 2: we got some clarity on the Sunday, but not really.
Speaker 2: I mean, we had a division that was clinch we
Speaker 2: had a couple of playoff spots that are now officially taken,
Speaker 2: but otherwise it remains mark just a big old stew
Speaker 2: of confusion.
Speaker 5: It is a yeah, it's a thick soup. I mean,
Speaker 5: only four teams have been removed from the playoff picture.
Speaker 2: Thank god Steve Carn's back on Sunday nights right to
Speaker 2: give us clarites.
Speaker 3: Central.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to it. Let's start. Yes, it was,
Speaker 2: at least on paper, the game of the week. It
Speaker 2: didn't play out that way, but it did. I think
Speaker 2: teach us something about both teams to Orchard Park.
Speaker 3: Cook to the left of Allen and the shotgun. Two
Speaker 3: receivers left, one to the right. Here's the stat give us.
Speaker 7: The Cook goes behind talking through a hole down to
Speaker 7: the ten to five and he leaps into the end zone.
Speaker 7: James Cook with his second touchdown of the game, one.
Speaker 3: Receiving, one rushing.
Speaker 7: It is a blowout oh Orchard Park, as the Cook
Speaker 7: has found the kitchen for the second time tonight.
Speaker 2: Chris Brown bongos, early bongos. Producer, every producer, team, every
Speaker 2: producer has the power of the bongos, and you use
Speaker 2: that power. Good job, Eric, Chris Brown with a call.
Speaker 2: Good call by Chris. James Cook had a career best
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy nine yards on the ground, a
Speaker 2: whopping two hundred and twenty one yards of scrimmage and
Speaker 2: two touchdowns. As mister Brown told you, the Bills dismantle
Speaker 2: the Cowboys thirty one to ten in Western New York.
Speaker 3: Say bye bye to Dallas's.
Speaker 2: Five game winning streak and open up a whole can
Speaker 2: of worms about Dallas being vulnerable because they haven't been
Speaker 2: so hot on the road, and with this loss, there's
Speaker 2: a very good chance they'll be on the road come
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Mark, you were in the whole position in
Speaker 2: the draft. You grab this game the Bills man, look.
Speaker 3: Out, Yeah, I think I locked this team up too.
Speaker 1: Oh he's dumbing out hot.
Speaker 3: Oh he gets hot.
Speaker 5: And I kind of felt like this was the moment
Speaker 5: for Buffalo to either wave farewell to this journey that's
Speaker 5: been real up or down, and certainly the last like
Speaker 5: ten days been rough for the coach and everyone else.
Speaker 5: And I'm looking at a game where Josh Allen completed
Speaker 5: seven passes, and if I knew that ahead of time,
Speaker 5: I would have thought that sounds like a potential disaster.
Speaker 5: Or it tells a different story of a Bills team
Speaker 5: that found a weakness in the Dallas defense right away
Speaker 5: and never let up, running the ball forty nine times
Speaker 5: at five point four yards per carry for two hundred
Speaker 5: and sixty six yards on the ground.
Speaker 3: And it didn't require Josh Allen. James Cook.
Speaker 5: I think we've seen James Cook kind of rise up
Speaker 5: and getting to the point where he's been a difference
Speaker 5: maker and changed their attack dominant today, utterly dominant. And
Speaker 5: you could feel the Dallas defense on a bad weather
Speaker 5: environment in Buffalo with no way to stop it. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's their pass rush that you think could take over
Speaker 5: a game and maybe neutralize Josh Allen. It never existed
Speaker 5: because Buffalo just kept sending Cook and friends right up
Speaker 5: the gut of the defense, and it worked to the
Speaker 5: point where there was this one drive. I mean there
Speaker 5: are touchdown drives for like eleven plays, eleven plays, twelve plays,
Speaker 5: and we all sat there together watching that third quarter.
Speaker 5: This game started twenty five minutes or something after the
Speaker 5: other two late games, and it caught up with them
Speaker 5: because of a third down or third quarter march where
Speaker 5: they just ran the ball over and over and over,
Speaker 5: a fifteen play drive that I think took the heart,
Speaker 5: ripped the heart out of the Cowboys, and you knew
Speaker 5: that was over.
Speaker 3: Dallas had no way back into this thing.
Speaker 6: It's funny if the season goes long enough, sometimes you
Speaker 6: have storylines that are around early, then they go away
Speaker 6: for a while, and then they're back in December, and
Speaker 6: two storylines I remember honking about in September early October
Speaker 6: was Wow, the Bills actually have a good offensive line
Speaker 6: this year and a good running game, a little more
Speaker 6: physical than they've been in the past. James Cook obviously
Speaker 6: has been playing great now for a month, but that
Speaker 6: really shows up today. And another concern very early for
Speaker 6: this Cowboys team was how tough they were when they
Speaker 6: fall behind in games, especially their run defense. They gave
Speaker 6: up two twenty two to the Cardinals, remember back yeah
Speaker 6: in Week three, and then one seventy to the forty
Speaker 6: nine ers and then that was back.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: I don't think it means it's some fatal flaw that
Speaker 6: if they find their way behind that they are never
Speaker 6: going to come back. But it's those weaknesses showing up,
Speaker 6: and more importantly for the Bills, their strength showing up
Speaker 6: in a massive spot where they have a couple of
Speaker 6: layups now in a row before a Week eighteen game,
Speaker 6: before the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a you know, floating Chargers team, train
Speaker 2: wreck team on the road. Then you get the Patriots,
Speaker 2: another one of the worst teams in football. So they
Speaker 2: are really set up here. And you know, you could
Speaker 2: also say, man, we've been trying to trust the Bills
Speaker 2: all year long.
Speaker 4: They've kept on telling.
Speaker 2: Us, don't trust us, and yet this does feel different.
Speaker 2: You know, It's a great way to quickly move on
Speaker 2: from a frankly insane nine to eleven controversy. Let that
Speaker 2: story leak on like a Thursday night and then promptly
Speaker 2: beat the Chiefs and the Cowboys and back to back weeks.
Speaker 3: Right, So it goes from Sean McDermott, the world's caving
Speaker 3: in on the guy too.
Speaker 2: Wow this team, Listen, can't call them the favorites because
Speaker 2: they still got work to do just to make the playoffs,
Speaker 2: but they are as dangerous as any team in the
Speaker 2: AFC as we go into the final leg of the season.
Speaker 2: On the Cowboys side, Listen, I think we were all
Speaker 2: on the same page. Mark, you did a good job
Speaker 2: blocking it up. This felt like a tough spot for
Speaker 2: the Cowboys to go on the road against the Bills,
Speaker 2: team that was desperate, that was playing better, feeling itself
Speaker 2: a little bit. Cowboys come down to earth after two
Speaker 2: huge wins against a big rival, so it felt like
Speaker 2: a spot where the Cowboys could get knocked off. The
Speaker 2: one thing, if I'm a Cowboys fan, that I didn't
Speaker 2: want to see was this a game where you get bullied,
Speaker 2: A game where you look highly vulnerable and you look
Speaker 2: like a pretender.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Gonna say that I'm out on the Cowboys, but I
Speaker 2: really did like this idea. If you want to sell
Speaker 2: yourself on the Cowboys making the NFC title game, for instance,
Speaker 2: for the first time in a quarter century. It's like,
Speaker 2: find a way to win that division and get a
Speaker 2: home game, and maybe you get some luck, you get
Speaker 2: the top seat. Listen, all that is most likely out
Speaker 2: the door. Now, that's a damaging loss, Greg, and you
Speaker 2: could do the I'm not sure. Look, but when you
Speaker 2: look at the eagles remaining schedule, right, we gotta to
Speaker 2: see what Jalen hurts.
Speaker 3: The situation is for Monday Night, they are in danger.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys are being locked into that five seed and
Speaker 2: maybe I'm not feeling so hot about him in that spot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, just tiebreaker wise, Cowboys and Eagles both ended up
Speaker 6: clinging a playoff spot on Sunday. But yeah, the Eagles
Speaker 6: pretty much have all the tie breaks, which means the
Speaker 6: Eagles now even have a loss to either Seattle or
Speaker 6: I forget whether there are other out of division game
Speaker 6: is maybe Arizona to play with. They couldn't lose in
Speaker 6: Division of the Giants necessarily, but that's a decent amount
Speaker 6: of wiggle room now for the Eagles. They could lose
Speaker 6: Monday Night and still control their fate in the division.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: One thing I disliked about the whole Cowboys approach to
Speaker 5: this game early on was like a real lack of
Speaker 5: discipline too, which has not been the way they've been.
Speaker 5: I think they had three killer personal fouls on Buffalo's
Speaker 5: first three touchdown marches. Each of those kind of rescued
Speaker 5: Buffalo out of a situation where they could have been
Speaker 5: in hot water. I think we don't talk about this
Speaker 5: guy a lot, but Jonathan Hankins, who's on IR I
Speaker 5: think that's not a Jenga piece, but it's someone that
Speaker 5: when he's not in there, I think his absence was
Speaker 5: really felt today as a run stopper. I mean, if
Speaker 5: another team can do this to Dallas, then their defense
Speaker 5: doesn't look the same as it has during the day
Speaker 5: of this season.
Speaker 2: Dolphins next week or the number two running team in
Speaker 2: the league. So all of a sudden, you know they're
Speaker 2: gonna be tested here and we'll see how it looks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Bills put you know the fact that they kind
Speaker 2: of put the game away by halftime, and you could say, well,
Speaker 2: Dallas is so explosive. Nobody thought the game was over.
Speaker 2: It felt pretty over it did. The energy was lacking
Speaker 2: around the Cowboys in this game, and that we talked
Speaker 2: about Zach Martin. He comes out and you see him
Speaker 2: kind of commiserating with Dak. It just felt like the
Speaker 2: team is just not in it, and it's a bad one.
Speaker 3: It's a tough one.
Speaker 6: I'm more surprised I didn't watch it as close as
Speaker 6: ease Mark, but just that the Bill's defense got after
Speaker 6: Dak so much that the offensive line, and I know
Speaker 6: they didn't have Martin, but which has been great for
Speaker 6: so long, ends up giving up so much pressure that
Speaker 6: you know, the Dak in the passing game ends up
Speaker 6: with one hundred and six net yards passing on something
Speaker 6: like thirty seven dropbacks.
Speaker 1: That that's insane. That's Carolina Panthers on a bad day
Speaker 1: type of numbers.
Speaker 5: They're also I mean, I know this annoys you, Greg
Speaker 5: because you brought it up to but it's like they're
Speaker 5: totally out of this game. It's pouring down rain and
Speaker 5: they still have Dak in there, like when the thing
Speaker 5: is completely lost, throwing passes of ceed Lamb, who was
Speaker 5: limping around at one point. It's like, I don't I
Speaker 5: get teams do things differently, but why are we why
Speaker 5: are we risking like a pyrrhic loss, not even on
Speaker 5: our victory.
Speaker 4: I can take you inside the head of that.
Speaker 3: Well, you've already you've done it. Team aready.
Speaker 4: We'll take it deep inside again.
Speaker 2: And the cow is you know it just wanted to,
Speaker 2: you know, put something good on tape at the end
Speaker 2: of the game. You know it's a turn the page game,
Speaker 2: but we want to end on a high note. And
Speaker 2: we did that and we're gonna well they getting forward
Speaker 2: to uh, you know, better days ahead. Yeah, it's dumb,
Speaker 2: just like the the genius Kyle Shanahan, you know, sticking
Speaker 2: the ball and Christian McCaffrey's bread basket up twenty points
Speaker 2: late in that game as well. There's just some reason
Speaker 2: these teams are reckless in these one side games.
Speaker 4: Anything else from this affair.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Just like I think the Bills are.
Speaker 5: I had real trust issues with the Bills and they're
Speaker 5: starting to melt away.
Speaker 3: They've had a really.
Speaker 4: Good, good ten days.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 4: That's good.
Speaker 3: I know that matters to their fan base. That that
Speaker 3: I'm back on.
Speaker 6: It's been I mean, McDermott is doing a great job
Speaker 6: connecting this defense, considering all the injuries they lost two
Speaker 6: more starters going into today. They are down so many
Speaker 6: players on that defense, and each week he's coming up
Speaker 6: with good plan. It's been a good couple of weeks
Speaker 6: for McDermott, you know, coming out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well post, you know, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Though, if he loses that game most nine to eleven,
Speaker 6: that could have been maybe the end of his time
Speaker 6: in Buffalo, depending on how it goes been. Instead, his
Speaker 6: side of the ball, which has been criticized rightly, that
Speaker 6: he was trying to get people off the scent when
Speaker 6: he made that offensive coordinator change. We said that here
Speaker 6: this was his dream game. His defense is happening and
Speaker 6: they're running the ball like you want. It's like this
Speaker 6: season everything's started out McDermott. Maybe this is maybe they
Speaker 6: only get over the hump finally in a crazy year
Speaker 6: where they have to be buried and almost done and
Speaker 6: the rest of the AFC's not there.
Speaker 2: Say that this makes no sense. This season makes no sense.
Speaker 2: We talked about in Thursday, this is gonna be an
Speaker 2: epic shootout. Oh oh, Josh Allen threw for ninety four
Speaker 2: yards and they blew out the Cowboys and nobody got.
Speaker 4: Like, you know, no connect those duds. All right, let's
Speaker 4: move to.
Speaker 2: I think the game of the day, Cleveland the magic Mark,
Speaker 2: there's some magic in Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Beliveland baby from the Browns.
Speaker 8: Forty five fields back to pass, pup in the pocket,
Speaker 8: he rolls left times run out. He's gonna look, he's
Speaker 8: gonna look, he's gonna watch. It's going down into the
Speaker 8: end zone. Knock it down the ball, here's.
Speaker 3: Our sat down, that's in our something by the bust.
Speaker 1: That's the end of the fun. He got it full game.
Speaker 9: Over Crouch win croats twin twenty to seventeen.
Speaker 1: It's all over.
Speaker 3: Jim Donovan with the call, great call, w k r K.
Speaker 2: Well you didn't hear there was that ball gets knocked
Speaker 2: down directly into the hands of who is it, Darnell
Speaker 2: Mooney who has it in his hands for a game
Speaker 2: winning hail Mary completion from justin Fields. But somehow it
Speaker 2: pops out and then turns into an interception. And yes,
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of that magic dust on the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns this season. Remember we're talking about it feels
Speaker 2: like a million years ago. Mark, or you thought maybe
Speaker 2: this Jets season has some magic to it, And what
Speaker 2: are they called right Church.
Speaker 4: Wrong, Queu. It's the Brownies have some.
Speaker 2: Magic to them after a twenty to seventeen win, a
Speaker 2: game in which they dug themselves out of a seventeen
Speaker 2: to seven hole in the third quarter or a fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Greg, what a magic carpet, right?
Speaker 6: And I want to get to everything that led to
Speaker 6: that hail but I think we gotta start with that
Speaker 6: hail Mary, because the Bears get in position after the
Speaker 6: Browns kind of lose their minds and let who was
Speaker 6: a Tyler Scott run up the sidelines for a free
Speaker 6: thirty yards, the biggest play the Bears had all day.
Speaker 6: The Bears offense was dominated all day by the Browns.
Speaker 6: This was deserved victory, I think, a deserved comeback by
Speaker 6: the Browns. They were the better team. And yet there
Speaker 6: the Bears were over midfield, needing about ten or fifteen
Speaker 6: more yards to get in good field goal range. The
Speaker 6: Browns defense stands up again, you know, gets a couple
Speaker 6: stops to force the Bears to kick or to go
Speaker 6: for the hail Mary, because they didn't think Santos could
Speaker 6: reach on this type of day that long a kick.
Speaker 6: It would have been over I think sixty yards beautiful
Speaker 6: hail Mary attempt to cross his body and it's deflected
Speaker 6: into Mooney's hand and we have a tweet of it
Speaker 6: of a picture of it. Who's just literally on the
Speaker 6: ground and it falls into his bread basket. In the
Speaker 6: picture you could see at ESPN's Kimberly Martin going crazy
Speaker 6: on the sideline. And it wasn't like it got smashed
Speaker 6: down into Himconna. It fell very softly. This would have
Speaker 6: been the craziest player of the season.
Speaker 2: Also, Greg that is that is a professional wide receiver, right, Well,
Speaker 2: it wasn't like my seven year old son that it
Speaker 2: was padded down. It's like, oh, you almost caught it.
Speaker 2: I don't know how he doesn't catch it. That's it
Speaker 2: was a miracle. And then for it to pop up
Speaker 2: right to the right team, yeah, the wrong team depending
Speaker 2: on your perspective.
Speaker 3: A little magic, little dust, little dust.
Speaker 5: I like each of these Browns nail biers, and they
Speaker 5: they went through like at one point in the game, like,
Speaker 5: how what's happened in the final couple of minutes to
Speaker 5: the Browns in this season. These were games that the
Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns have been losing for you know, two and
Speaker 5: a half decades.
Speaker 3: So it's something is a little bit different.
Speaker 5: I know that Flacco he had three picks today and
Speaker 5: you're gonna get that with Joe Flacco, but there's something
Speaker 5: about him, I mean, just the veteran nature of also
Speaker 5: through for three seventy four, Right, that's the thing, Like
Speaker 5: you're gonna like, I just think that you've got like
Speaker 5: heads up and like neck up, like Flacco gives them
Speaker 5: something just been missing at quarterback and like you can
Speaker 5: accept the faults. I mean, I'm looking at the defense
Speaker 5: has was so solid today because the Bears touchdown came
Speaker 5: off started the Cleveland five off of one of those interceptions,
Speaker 5: and their field goal drive started the Cleveland twenty three.
Speaker 5: I mean, other than that, they really accomplished very little
Speaker 5: on offense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was that Cleveland one it actually
Speaker 6: started on and that was a four play Cleveland one.
Speaker 6: It even took four plays, including three penalties that knocked
Speaker 6: out two of those plays to score that type. So essentially,
Speaker 6: the Browns defense, I mean, the Browns offense gave up
Speaker 6: fourteen points. The Bears defense scored fourteen points. Otherwise, the
Speaker 6: Browns dominated and it was such a great game. But
Speaker 6: I do want to take you back to the first
Speaker 6: play of the fourth quarter, because I think that's where
Speaker 6: it started.
Speaker 1: It had craziest I said.
Speaker 6: Flacco throws for three to seventy four, a couple interceptions
Speaker 6: in Djoku, has a great game. But that play, first
Speaker 6: play of the fourth quarter, the Bears are at midfield.
Speaker 6: We're coming off of Flacco interception which felt like, ooh,
Speaker 6: this might be Kurt, and he threw it at the
Speaker 6: goal line after they were driving, and the Bears are
Speaker 6: up ten points at that time. It's fourth and one
Speaker 6: at midfield and the Bears are driving, and it's Cameron Mitchell,
Speaker 6: a little known cornerback you haven't even heard of, that
Speaker 6: makes a great play on a run for a design
Speaker 6: run from fields where it looks like he's gonna have
Speaker 6: the first down, and Mitchell just dives and gets his
Speaker 6: ankles and he's stumbling and he misses it by half
Speaker 6: of a yard. They get the stop because of guy
Speaker 6: you never heard of. Then it's next drive, Alex Right,
Speaker 6: another guy you've never heard of, making a big sack
Speaker 6: and is making plays all game. This defense was so good.
Speaker 6: After the Bears went up seventeen to seven, in their
Speaker 6: next six drives, they had a total of three first downs.
Speaker 6: They only had seventy yards in those six drives, and
Speaker 6: thirty was on that weird toe tapping play on that
Speaker 6: last drive.
Speaker 1: Like they absolutely.
Speaker 6: Destroyed justin fields and this bears offense the whole day,
Speaker 6: which is why even though I know Flacco through three interceptions,
Speaker 6: they were removing the ball and it felt very deserved.
Speaker 10: I was.
Speaker 6: I would have been sick for the Browns if they
Speaker 6: had lost a close game here because the defense, it
Speaker 6: was another vintage were the best defense in the league.
Speaker 3: Type of game.
Speaker 2: And I'll point out the game tying touchdown Blacko to Cooper.
Speaker 4: That's one of the last throws of the year.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I also want to point out it's when
Speaker 2: you have actual good coaching and play calling. That's a
Speaker 2: great design play for Flacco with a beat up offensive
Speaker 2: line to have a design rollout to buy him a
Speaker 2: little time to give him a good look downfield and
Speaker 2: then he just like Turkey, holds it and Cooper does
Speaker 2: the rest.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: It was brilliant and also brilliant my guy.
Speaker 2: And Joko with two, i mean ten catches career high
Speaker 2: in this game. He had the toe tap touchdown. He
Speaker 2: had a big catch on third down to keep the
Speaker 2: game winning drive alive. In the fourth quarter, two catches
Speaker 2: to put the game away and to set up the
Speaker 2: short field goal.
Speaker 4: He is a ser find weapon with Flaco and I
Speaker 4: don't know how much longer.
Speaker 2: This the Browns can sustain injuries because they continue to
Speaker 2: come in waves. But they're finding ways every week and
Speaker 2: they're a fun team to follow.
Speaker 5: And I you know, I think that Kevin Stefanski came
Speaker 5: into this season with a potentially hot seat. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think there were questions about what the whole organization
Speaker 5: was doing in general, and through all the injuries, especially
Speaker 5: at quarterback, I think Stefanski has proven himself to Browns
Speaker 5: fans to be a bit of a difference maker.
Speaker 3: I might think Deshan Watson on the hot seat next year.
Speaker 5: Well, I think Stefanski's proven two years in a row
Speaker 5: he can win with almost anyone at quarterback. It seems
Speaker 5: like he's I think that says a lot about the
Speaker 5: offensive scheming.
Speaker 6: Blacko Head has the fifth most amount of yards in
Speaker 6: his first three games with a team in NFL history.
Speaker 6: It's probably as obvious, but he's he's the number one
Speaker 6: in terms of a guy that just joined the team
Speaker 6: in the middle of the season. All those guys are,
Speaker 6: you know, either rookie with Cam Newton or guys who
Speaker 6: had come over in free agency on a new team.
Speaker 6: I think this could have changed a couple of franchises here,
Speaker 6: because the Browns look like they're going to the playoffs here.
Speaker 6: I know they have a lot of injuries and the
Speaker 6: offensive line was bad today, which is a pretty big concern.
Speaker 6: I mean, Flacco was under total heat. But they played
Speaker 6: the Texans, Jets, and Bengals and the defense is awesome
Speaker 6: and they're nine to five, like I think, I think
Speaker 6: they'll be able to get in whereas the Bears, their
Speaker 6: defense again played really well I think for the most part,
Speaker 6: and you see the vision of Ebraflus, But I think
Speaker 6: this is a tough one for them to stomach. That
Speaker 6: you're not turning around justin fields in this offense, and
Speaker 6: then you're probably not keeping Matt Aberflus.
Speaker 2: Just flackle behind a bad offensive line doesn't feel sustainable.
Speaker 4: But also it just feels like a different.
Speaker 3: Type of year.
Speaker 2: Let's give the last word to Kevin Stefanski on that
Speaker 2: Hail Mary.
Speaker 4: When it's there, I blacked out.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: How about you, Mark, were you what was your ad
Speaker 4: space on the hill? Maary?
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'm trying to watch all these
Speaker 5: games at the same time, and when I saw that happen,
Speaker 5: I thought.
Speaker 3: Well, well, in the one eye that was that's probably
Speaker 3: gonna land.
Speaker 6: In the lap of the didn't get spoiled by us
Speaker 6: on the other side or no, because you know, oh
Speaker 6: totally okay, Yeah, no, that the rest of the desks
Speaker 6: down there watching, I mean, it's eight seconds ahead of
Speaker 6: what I'm watching.
Speaker 3: Or maybe you're just learning about the outcome right now.
Speaker 5: But I don't know you was actually, to be fair,
Speaker 5: you were just shouting, So I don't so something cap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went.
Speaker 6: I went over there to watch the ending. David and Joke,
Speaker 6: I think spoke for a lot of Browns fans. He
Speaker 6: was asked on it and he said, damn near myself,
Speaker 6: dog fair.
Speaker 3: Enough, all right?
Speaker 2: Uh speaking to uh, speaking of pooping themselves. The Packers,
Speaker 2: in their defense, welcome the Bucks to lambeau Field today.
Speaker 11: Shotgun look low, snap passed by Baker, caught ball and
Speaker 11: they first down the twenty five of the.
Speaker 3: Twenty ten to five David Moore scro a touchdowns.
Speaker 12: Haven't they what third down and three Wow, this is
Speaker 12: this is an out route and what.
Speaker 1: A great catch.
Speaker 12: I mean, this is in a group of bod he
Speaker 12: somehow more catches it and then he's able to spin
Speaker 12: out it air and runs away from everybody to pick
Speaker 12: up the touchdown.
Speaker 3: That's a huge play, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Thank you, David Moore. David Moore on the touchdown catch.
Speaker 2: Dave Moore on that color call, and that was of
Speaker 2: course Jee decker Hoff with McCall wfus. Baker Mayfield through
Speaker 2: for three hundred and eighty one yards four touchdowns, including
Speaker 2: that game clincher to More. He had a perfect passer
Speaker 2: rating and the Bucks won their third straight game. Who
Speaker 2: said nobody wants to win the NFC South thirty four
Speaker 2: to twenty over the Packers at Lambeau. The Bucks he
Speaker 2: pays atop the NFC South or seven and seven. And
Speaker 2: let's start, well, let's give Baker his flowers because as
Speaker 2: we've been talking about Baker for a couple months on
Speaker 2: the show now about like how he's had like a
Speaker 2: nice little season.
Speaker 4: He's in a good spot.
Speaker 2: He's uh, you know, a little out of not like
Speaker 2: under the microscope, and he's allowed to just do his thing,
Speaker 2: and and and let's be honest, in a lesser division,
Speaker 2: and he's just confident and feeling himself. And this year,
Speaker 2: this this game specifically, was kind of like the high
Speaker 2: point of what's been a really a good year for
Speaker 2: him in his career, where he's re established himself. And
Speaker 2: I'm interested what his long term future is in Tampa,
Speaker 2: especially if he keeps this up, maybe it won't even
Speaker 2: be a question. But uh yeah, the Bucks deserve credit
Speaker 2: because they took this game early. Go right down the field,
Speaker 2: They withstand an early Baker Mayfield turnover that sets up
Speaker 2: a Packers score early, and from that point on they
Speaker 2: just dominate offensively.
Speaker 3: It was outrageous.
Speaker 2: And I was talking to big big Funk behind the glass.
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I know Joe Joe Barry is
Speaker 2: a figure of suspicion for Packers fans.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Oh how many games I've seen this.
Speaker 2: Year that were as poorly played by defense than what
Speaker 2: you saw from the Green Bay Packers. When you watch
Speaker 2: this game, you're gonna be blown away by how many
Speaker 2: second and long second in forever, third and long and
Speaker 2: Baker just sits back there sets up a picnic blanket
Speaker 2: looks for a wide receiver to get open, usually Chris Godwin,
Speaker 2: who was just rolling through the middle of the field
Speaker 2: the whole game and just picking apart green Bay's defense
Speaker 2: with ease. So it wasn't so much that Green Bay
Speaker 2: couldn't get the Bucks into bad positions. It was every
Speaker 2: time the Bucks got in a bad position, they couldn't
Speaker 2: cover anyone.
Speaker 3: And then Baker was hitting all the throws. So this
Speaker 3: Packers team woke up this morning, I was feeling pretty dangerous.
Speaker 2: And he was dangerous in this game, This Packers team,
Speaker 2: and they are such a perfect example of the season
Speaker 2: in the nutshell mark, this Packers team that we're all
Speaker 2: so sky high on, they get beat by the Packers
Speaker 2: of the Giants on Monday night, like a it's all right,
Speaker 2: then you let the Bucks come in here embarrass you,
Speaker 2: especially your defense, and you're like Jesus is another pretender
Speaker 2: that we started to believe.
Speaker 5: In well, and it's like we mentioned on Thursday, this
Speaker 5: past week seemed to be like the bubbling up where
Speaker 5: everyone who's watching these games started to look at Green
Speaker 5: Bay and say, we can't trust you because of this
Speaker 5: this defense.
Speaker 3: I mean, forget Jordan Love and him being up and down.
Speaker 5: It's like he's in a terrible position when you're down
Speaker 5: twenty to ten and the Bucks are going all over
Speaker 5: the place.
Speaker 3: Love played well in this game, right, That's the thing.
Speaker 5: It's like, it's just that they have a fatal flaw
Speaker 5: and it's like it's a point where they're asking, you know,
Speaker 5: Laflour about Joe Barry in every press conference and I
Speaker 5: think we have that actually.
Speaker 3: Met drever considered in season change and coordinator. Uh yeah,
Speaker 3: now's not the time for that, to be honest with you.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 2: You got Lafleur answering those questions and probably kicking himself
Speaker 2: because he was not gonna admit it there probably had
Speaker 2: doubts about Barry and the scheme going into the year,
Speaker 2: decided to ride with him and it might get them
Speaker 2: beat in the end.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm not stunned by the defense, but I am
Speaker 6: stunned that the Bucks had it in him. I mean,
Speaker 6: that's the most offense they've had all year. That's the
Speaker 6: first opposing quarterback to ever go into Lambeau history the
Speaker 6: stadium and have a perfect passer rating.
Speaker 1: Wow, Baker, it's this kind of wild.
Speaker 3: Beker has been on like seventeen teams.
Speaker 6: They big funk let me know about that. I mean,
Speaker 6: I didn't know they added him. I didn't know Chris
Speaker 6: Godwin had like a ten for one fifty in him.
Speaker 6: And they're seven and seven. And the Packers, who understandably
Speaker 6: were getting some buzz of like hmm, maybe they're gonna
Speaker 6: win this division eight days ago, like maybe they're gonna
Speaker 6: end up catching the Lions from behind, are suddenly eleventh
Speaker 6: in a pretty good looking NFC Wildcard picture where a
Speaker 6: lot of people won on Sunday and.
Speaker 1: In a pretty brutal spot.
Speaker 6: And I don't think I don't think Lafleur is gonna
Speaker 6: We'll see how this the rest of the season goes,
Speaker 6: because it's too early to bury any team who knows
Speaker 6: the way this season goes, maybe they'll freaking win three straight.
Speaker 6: We got Todd Bowles going for multiple fourth downs late
Speaker 6: in the game. Things can change in life, Todd Bowles,
Speaker 6: how about it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, well, yeah, listen, they deserve credit. This was
Speaker 3: a big win. And I again I locked up the Packers,
Speaker 3: and I gotta tell you something, and I'll say it again.
Speaker 3: I don't care if I'm seven and eight. That was
Speaker 3: a fine lock. That was fine, It was good luck.
Speaker 3: How do you.
Speaker 13: Predict that in green Bay that type of performance that
Speaker 13: Baker would play at that level and the green Bay
Speaker 13: Packers be that bad because, like I said, their offense
Speaker 13: was not the problem.
Speaker 2: Green Bay continues to move the ball on offense. And
Speaker 2: I thought that there was a throw from Jordan Love
Speaker 2: that was one of the best of his young career
Speaker 2: on a scramble in the red zone that he just
Speaker 2: throws it on an absolute line to I believe.
Speaker 4: It was Jayden Reed.
Speaker 2: That once again reminds you that this dude has a
Speaker 2: very high ceiling and the Packers are right to be
Speaker 2: patient with Love. So the offensive side of the ball, okay,
Speaker 2: the defense.
Speaker 6: Right, the lers today wicked Craft and Reid who combined
Speaker 6: for like two hundred yards. First of all, no one
Speaker 6: had ever heard of any of them practically going into
Speaker 6: the season. The other in Draftnicks, it's like mid round
Speaker 6: rookies are three mid round rookies. I mean, that's well,
Speaker 6: that's why I think there is that much production out
Speaker 6: of this often right overall, there is like a lot
Speaker 6: has happened good for the Packers this season, Like this
Speaker 6: playoff thing was not something we were expecting necessarily that
Speaker 6: you could say the world would be a sunnier place
Speaker 6: if none of these teams from the South made the postseason.
Speaker 6: But Dan, like we've been saying, it's my choice, is
Speaker 6: the Bucks because I think you've got real star power
Speaker 6: on that team. You've got Mike Evans, You've got Godwin,
Speaker 6: Vita Vea, Antoine Winfield, and this version of Baker, it's like,
Speaker 6: forget the rest of the team as well.
Speaker 4: This version of Baker they win the super.
Speaker 5: Bowl, well right, but but even in games where they've
Speaker 5: not been productive, he finds a way, like late to
Speaker 5: do something crazy. And it's like, I think when he
Speaker 5: is a quarterback that when he's confident, it's a completely
Speaker 5: different version.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, and I and I think they have, to
Speaker 2: your point, the highest ceiling of these NFC we.
Speaker 6: Could there is a dark out timeline where we get
Speaker 6: two of these teams, because right now they're pretty close.
Speaker 3: You know, it's listen, we had we're gonna get.
Speaker 6: He also finally bench Devin White, who's having a nightmare
Speaker 6: of free agencies. I know he was inactive, but they
Speaker 6: essentially benched him.
Speaker 3: It's out of them I think it's the Vikings. They're
Speaker 3: talking about the Packers.
Speaker 2: We had all these teams that we had high hopes
Speaker 2: for UH at the bottom of the NFC, and and
Speaker 2: they're just not taking the reins.
Speaker 4: Let's move to Miami.
Speaker 2: Miami, throw looking beep down the left sideline, the watch
Speaker 2: loves gone touchdown Miami.
Speaker 3: There's a new Cheetah in town.
Speaker 4: Boy jam Mugattle just smoke DJ.
Speaker 2: Reed on coverage, man demand on the outside and again
Speaker 2: to him, looked it off and came back to him.
Speaker 6: So there was no help.
Speaker 4: I couldn't really hear the songs that they played, but.
Speaker 2: I did see Steven Ross and his suite doing the
Speaker 2: Wattle dance.
Speaker 3: It's great. Yeah, it's hard to unsee that. Can unsee it.
Speaker 3: It's there forever now.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Sevalo at the call with Joe Rose wb gg
Speaker 2: raheem Moster, Well you heard lonell and two of three
Speaker 2: for two twenty four in that one score, but ram
Speaker 2: most had two more touchdowns. He sets a Miami single
Speaker 2: season record with twenty on the air. It's December seventeenth
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins shut out the Jets thirty nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: without Tyreek Hill, he was a game time decision. They
Speaker 2: decided kind of the last second they'll be all right
Speaker 2: without him, and they were. They embarrassed the Jets team
Speaker 2: that didn't show up in this game. They seemed totally
Speaker 2: puzzled and the Dobbins. It wasn't just Tyreek Hill either.
Speaker 2: They're missing key putt players, multiple key players on both
Speaker 2: sides of the.
Speaker 1: Ball, and yeah, missing starters.
Speaker 2: Yeah it didn't matter because the Jets, who looked so
Speaker 2: mighty or so it seemed last week against Houston, were
Speaker 2: unable to cross one hundred yards of total offense until
Speaker 2: late in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: And I give credit.
Speaker 2: Miami in general played a really sound game on both
Speaker 2: sides of the ball. It was a really nice bounce
Speaker 2: back for the team after the disaster on Monday night
Speaker 2: that collapsed. But they really won the game because of
Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb, who had I think he had either three
Speaker 2: or three and a half sacks causing turnovers, and the
Speaker 2: Miami pass rush that didn't need a blitzer absolutely put
Speaker 2: a clown suit on all the Jets makeshift starters on
Speaker 2: that offensive line. By the end of the second quarter,
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson was gone with the hydration that turned into
Speaker 2: a concussion during halftime, and it was just basically coasting
Speaker 2: to the finish line from about the beginning of the
Speaker 2: second quarter on.
Speaker 5: I think this Dolphins because it's so easy just to
Speaker 5: laser focus on their offense and what Mike McDaniel has
Speaker 5: done and the stars on that side the ball, But
Speaker 5: like their defense has been really interesting, even with Jalen
Speaker 5: Phillips out of the lineup.
Speaker 3: Like you don't get too many drive charts like this.
Speaker 5: The Jets fumble downs five straight punts, an interception, another
Speaker 5: fumble interception, end of game.
Speaker 3: I mean, they just never had a chance.
Speaker 5: I know they're not a good offense to begin with,
Speaker 5: but it's like Miami shut down the run entirely and
Speaker 5: you're playing bad quarterbacks, but it's like they stomped them.
Speaker 5: And it's like I think that, you know, the Dolphins
Speaker 5: defense is not talked about enough.
Speaker 6: No, they've been so much better in the second half
Speaker 6: of the season, and it should give Dolphins fans hopes
Speaker 6: that they have a chance in this AFC. I know
Speaker 6: you have disappointing nights like last week, but they're ten
Speaker 6: and four. This is a franchise that has not won
Speaker 6: a playoff game. In twenty three years, I mean since
Speaker 6: two thousand. They haven't won the division since I think
Speaker 6: two thousand and eight. So even though it's against the Jets,
Speaker 6: it's like these type of bounce back games to try
Speaker 6: to set up winning that division, to try to put
Speaker 6: yourself in a position where you can win a first
Speaker 6: playoff game. That's big in this season where all these
Speaker 6: quarterbacks are getting hurt. Like two is out there every
Speaker 6: week making good plays. He's not the MVP or anything,
Speaker 6: but he's very consistent in what he does.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Two is I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I still have my doubts about
Speaker 2: the Dolphins in the big picture against the big boys,
Speaker 2: but they are what they can do to the teams
Speaker 2: that are not that are in disarray, that don't have
Speaker 2: their stuff together.
Speaker 4: It is a scary watch.
Speaker 2: Like this game could have been the Miami even being
Speaker 2: injured to played depleted. I think they could have scored
Speaker 2: forty points easily in this game if they were a
Speaker 2: little more aggressive in the second half, and they chose
Speaker 2: not to be.
Speaker 5: One thing I don't like is because I see that
Speaker 5: Austin Jackson, another offensive lineman, left with an oblique in
Speaker 5: dream and they're banged up along the line, like they've
Speaker 5: had to go without guys week after week, and I
Speaker 5: think that really changes Tua's game in some of these
Speaker 5: like more premier matchups.
Speaker 4: Not today, we'll see, Yeah we saw.
Speaker 6: Raheem Moster is up to twenty touchdowns on the season.
Speaker 6: That is seven more than the Jets have scored as
Speaker 6: a team. Moster four more than the Panthers, a couple
Speaker 6: more than the Giants, the same as the Steelers in
Speaker 6: the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Raheem Moster, it can it can seem unfair when you
Speaker 2: could just roll him out. I don't even think he's
Speaker 2: the best running back on the team.
Speaker 5: I think eight Chan is a better player that he
Speaker 5: is healthy for once for the entire year.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put him in the same bucket as like
Speaker 2: Jamal Williams what he did with Detroit last year. But
Speaker 2: it's not far off from that where they get inside
Speaker 2: the five and he's the guy and they have such
Speaker 2: a great scheming and the way McDaniels calls an offense
Speaker 2: that Mostar it is like it seems like he's like
Speaker 2: jogging in on these like tosses and it's like what
Speaker 2: a nice setup for him. As for the Jets, they
Speaker 2: were officially eliminated from playoff contention with the loss, and
Speaker 2: that makes it thirteen consecutive years, which is the longest
Speaker 2: streak in North American sports. We have been doing this
Speaker 2: podcast for eleven years, so yeah, we're still have not
Speaker 2: done a single show that involved the Jets in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I think this season, now that it's officially over, is
Speaker 2: as disappointing as any in my thirty five years as
Speaker 2: a fan. Just the norm and the consistency of the
Speaker 2: failure of this team is It's hard to wrap your
Speaker 2: head around, and it makes me sad. It makes me mad.
Speaker 2: I think about my kids now are nine and seven.
Speaker 2: In the window for them to kind of get into
Speaker 2: the Jets, that's shrinking. I think that I'm forty three
Speaker 2: and I still haven't watched the Super Bowl with my dad.
Speaker 2: That window is shrinking. And I know, I know the
Speaker 2: Jets are as Don Draper would say pregnant right now.
Speaker 3: They're in a tough situation because you're supposed to.
Speaker 2: It makes all the sense in the world for Woody
Speaker 2: to say, you know what, Bob's Joe Douglas has gotten
Speaker 2: like four and a half years to build this roster
Speaker 2: into a real winner, and Sala has a wretched record
Speaker 2: through three seasons. I look like they quit in this game.
Speaker 2: It's just dark. You got to kind of blow this
Speaker 2: thing up. Nathan Nathaniel Hackett, great guy, but you got
Speaker 2: to fire him into the proverbial sun. But you can't
Speaker 2: tell me that that's definitely what's gonna happen, because Rogers
Speaker 2: and the idea that the Jets might just say, you
Speaker 2: know what, this was a lost year. Aaron's gonna lift
Speaker 2: all the boats here and that, and that is a
Speaker 2: frustrating thing because you feel like you're just handcuffed to
Speaker 2: a soon to be forty one year old quarterback. So
Speaker 2: while I think they need to flush this regime, I
Speaker 2: just don't think it's necessarily what's gonna happen. And then
Speaker 2: we have to just hope that Aaron saves the day
Speaker 2: come September.
Speaker 3: I hope.
Speaker 2: I would imagine even though he's been cleared now, you're
Speaker 2: not gonna see him.
Speaker 4: Next week or any time.
Speaker 2: Well, that would be stupid now that they are mathematically eliminated.
Speaker 2: But honestly, when you're talking about a team like the
Speaker 2: New York Jets that have been a joke for a
Speaker 2: Baker's dozen of years. Now, I have my doubts to
Speaker 2: even assume that the he that we won't see Rogers.
Speaker 5: But even even like in August and you know, coming
Speaker 5: off of hard knocks and it's like we're gonna get
Speaker 5: Dalvin Cook, we keep adding pieces sort of had this
Speaker 5: like super Bowler bust field because you only have Aaron
Speaker 5: Rodgers for two seasons. Uh, They're not a super Bowler
Speaker 5: bus situation where or without Rogers. In fact, I think
Speaker 5: like the one blessing for Aaron Rodgers and all of
Speaker 5: this because it's like, oh, if he were there would
Speaker 5: be different. So I think they'd be having a really
Speaker 5: rough season even with Aaron Rodgerson. I think he'd be
Speaker 5: suffering a lot of punishment.
Speaker 2: And look at you know, with the way that the
Speaker 2: offensive line watch this game, if you stomach to watch
Speaker 2: how non competitive that offensive line is in front of
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson and then Trevor Simmeyon and then tell me,
Speaker 2: even if Rodgers's Achilles dozen snap, that this season was
Speaker 2: going to be in a good place. And that is
Speaker 2: all on Joe Douglas, who preached when he was hired
Speaker 2: for that job in twenty nineteen. He preached that building
Speaker 2: a championship team is about building in the trenches, building
Speaker 2: in the offensive line. And while he's built a very
Speaker 2: good defensive line, this is arguably the worst O line
Speaker 2: in football and it's been that way for a couple years.
Speaker 4: Injuries have played a role, but it's not just injuries.
Speaker 4: Gross gross, gross.
Speaker 2: All right, let's head to New England, where Patriots fans
Speaker 2: have been dealing with some gross things as well.
Speaker 12: As second down goal to go at the six, Mahomes
Speaker 12: wll look plump faking now turns left, Chase floats it
Speaker 12: for the.
Speaker 1: Back of the end zone.
Speaker 14: Taught Clyde Edwards Hilaire touchdown chansus Ceh nine and a
Speaker 14: half yards deep in the end zone, went up the
Speaker 14: elevator to get a six yard reception from Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 14: and the Chiefs lead by thirteen.
Speaker 2: It's Clyde Edwards Hilarry even active in the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: last year, and he's like targeted in the red zone with.
Speaker 3: This Chiefs well, they need him to the today.
Speaker 6: He was active all of this season. Either its injuries
Speaker 6: and he's back.
Speaker 2: Mitch Holtis with the call, Patrick Mahomes through for three
Speaker 2: hundred and five yards, two touchdown passes, two picks as well,
Speaker 2: including that score the c E H and the Chiefs
Speaker 2: take Care of Business Classic TCOB game seven twenty seven
Speaker 2: to seventeen over the moribund New England Patriots and Mark
Speaker 2: You know, there was the obligatory drop from Kadarius Tony
Speaker 2: that turned into an interception, but I think it was
Speaker 2: perhaps a good a good sign that the Chiefs even
Speaker 2: have the take Care of Business game in their arsenal.
Speaker 3: Still, yeah, I'd agree.
Speaker 5: I didn't blow It's not going to blow your doors
Speaker 5: off when you go watch. They're still DNA shared with
Speaker 5: some of the Chiefs problems from before. Homes had a
Speaker 5: second pick as well as two turnovers led to a
Speaker 5: touchdown and a field goal for the Patriots, who otherwise
Speaker 5: would have been like an apparition in this game. Edwards
Speaker 5: Hilaire did a nice job. It's like you Pachaco, who
Speaker 5: I think is you had surgery on his shoulder. I
Speaker 5: don't like that for this team either. But Jared mcjerrek
Speaker 5: McKinnon played a role. Rashid Rice nine receptions, ninety one yards,
Speaker 5: receiving touchdowns, so it's like, we want to see more
Speaker 5: and more from him, and I.
Speaker 3: Think the story for them.
Speaker 5: The one thing that's been a b line in most
Speaker 5: of these games is the defense. It's not just what's
Speaker 5: up with the offense. It's like the defense. New England
Speaker 5: in the second half had fifty seven yards on twenty
Speaker 5: two plays. Ten of their seventeen points I mentioned were
Speaker 5: just a byproduct of like the short field in turnovers,
Speaker 5: it's like they were completely nullified. Now that's not a surprise,
Speaker 5: but like this Chiefs defense can keep their offense afloat.
Speaker 5: It's not like if that side of the ball, we're falling,
Speaker 5: intercaving and entirely. I would just think the Chiefs are
Speaker 5: going to get picked off in the playoffs. I still
Speaker 5: have a lot of suspicions about the way this offense
Speaker 5: is run, but they're doing what they can.
Speaker 3: They can't there's not much they can do to change.
Speaker 5: So you need guys like Rice McKinnon the rest of
Speaker 5: them to be the best they can possibly be.
Speaker 1: And they should win the division.
Speaker 6: Now you're going into this week, there's legitimate concern about
Speaker 6: the Broncos, who are coming in their rear view. Still
Speaker 6: I think they have to be a little worried that
Speaker 6: a defense probably that was setting out to stop Kelsey
Speaker 6: does eleven targets for twenty eight yards. He drops a
Speaker 6: touchdown like Canarius Tony dropped the touchdown that was as
Speaker 6: easy as the one Kelsey did.
Speaker 1: People would be killing him too.
Speaker 3: And it's like, true, look at the data point.
Speaker 1: No, it's true.
Speaker 6: But I think he literally leads tight ends in yards
Speaker 6: this year as much as I hear what you're saying,
Speaker 6: but I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3: It's just not his it's relative to tramps else of
Speaker 3: the past.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I saw in this game how like Bill
Speaker 6: Belichick was bunting fourth and three at the fifty down
Speaker 6: seventeen and then down two touchdowns. They were just eating
Speaker 6: up all the clock when they're on their own goal line,
Speaker 6: like they weren't trying to hurry up at all. They
Speaker 6: were just they were trying to end the game even
Speaker 6: though they were down two touchdowns.
Speaker 3: It was just like, man, that was a that was a.
Speaker 2: If there are people that saw their fantasy seasons end
Speaker 2: in the playoffs today and you're like me, it was
Speaker 2: a Patrick Mahomes fantasy manager. This was a perfect like distillation.
Speaker 2: Their first touchdown drive is a trick play where Jerck
Speaker 2: McKinnon shovels it to Rashie Rice and then the season ends.
Speaker 2: Your season or their game ends with the Chiefs kneeling
Speaker 2: it out to kill the past the last basically two
Speaker 2: minutes inside the Patriots five. And not only are they
Speaker 2: not just like getting that extra touchdown, they're also you know,
Speaker 2: little minus rushes from the home taking you down a
Speaker 2: little bit, like this has been the worst experience I've
Speaker 2: ever had. I'm about to declare some type of gihad
Speaker 2: like Matt Ryan's style after this Mahome season.
Speaker 5: You you Matt Ryan, and you were never the same
Speaker 5: after that never fantasy season from about season.
Speaker 3: Not aware, but things are weird.
Speaker 2: Between feel it in the atmosphere, Yeah, anything else on
Speaker 2: this game.
Speaker 6: There was that report from our guy Ian that the
Speaker 6: decision hadn't completely been made on Bill Belichick's future. I
Speaker 6: thought was interesting on Sunday morning.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to just like, yeah, stash that story until
Speaker 2: January eighth, but let's do.
Speaker 6: It, because I think the keyword was like no final
Speaker 6: decision had been made for that. That indicates that like
Speaker 6: a preliminary decision had been made.
Speaker 3: They did one little newsl like they did.
Speaker 5: Whack Andy Reid one hundred grand and Patrick Mahomes fifty
Speaker 5: grand for their outburst.
Speaker 3: In the All right from a week ago. Yeah, makes sense,
Speaker 3: adds up.
Speaker 5: I mean, if you're Patrick Mahomes, that fifty grands, you
Speaker 5: don't even know that's in your that's just coming out.
Speaker 3: By yeah, ye bye.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and then we will
Speaker 2: continue on with the pipe.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back.
Speaker 2: All right, let's now keep going the week fifth teen recap.
Speaker 4: Let's head to Nashville.
Speaker 12: Sixteen sixteen, two seconds to go.
Speaker 7: In overtime, fifty four yard a tip left hash Mark,
Speaker 7: here's the snap, here's the spot, here's the.
Speaker 15: Kick by fairbanasod the Duxons win.
Speaker 1: Legendary fair Bear knocks.
Speaker 7: It through, from which your hat now Wallsid's defeat armor oilers.
Speaker 4: Oh, uniform back in the trunk.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, put that on your call.
Speaker 3: Of the year list.
Speaker 2: Oh, Mark, Vanderbier and Andre were all sorts of pumped
Speaker 2: up kilt Cayami. Fairbairn kicked a fifty four yard field
Speaker 2: goals time expired in overtime, and the Texans with case
Speaker 2: keenum at QB rally from a thirteen point deficit to
Speaker 2: beat the Titans nineteen sixteen on the day Titans leadership
Speaker 2: deemed it necessary to wear Houston oilers throw back uniforms.
Speaker 2: Let's welcome in Nick Schook, the pipe who watched the
Speaker 2: Texans find a way without CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud.
Speaker 16: You know no better way to recap someone piping a
Speaker 16: field goal than by bringing in myself to the kais
Speaker 16: Kai guys, I mean Kayimi Fairbairn drills a field goal
Speaker 16: to bring some excitement to an otherwise kind of dull game.
Speaker 16: If you really think about it, both sides I mean
Speaker 16: case Keenum out played Will Levis, but that's statistically, not
Speaker 16: really visually. The second half was really the story and
Speaker 16: the difference there. But the big story was mister Devin Singletary,
Speaker 16: the outcast from Buffalo, carrying the load for the Houston
Speaker 16: offense without CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud.
Speaker 16: Involved twenty six carries, one hundred and twenty one yards,
Speaker 16: no touchdowns, but he paced that offense when they certainly
Speaker 16: needed it, kind of unlocked. It allowed them to throw
Speaker 16: the football a little bit more. In the second half.
Speaker 16: They consistently outgained Tennessee. And I keep trying to say
Speaker 16: Houston and Houston because they were wearing those uniforms. So
Speaker 16: a little bit of revenge, I think, because has the
Speaker 16: uniforms for the Texans who get a much needed win
Speaker 16: in a game that for about a quarter and a
Speaker 16: half two quarters looked like they might, you know, get
Speaker 16: blown out just because they didn't have their quarterback.
Speaker 3: So Texans still right in the thick of the Anty South.
Speaker 3: Should he Singletary almost had.
Speaker 2: He did have a walk off touchdown and overtime as well,
Speaker 2: they got brought back by a holding. Yeah, if I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken, So yeah, he had a big day. He's
Speaker 2: picked up the slack for that backfield.
Speaker 3: A little peak behind the glass.
Speaker 5: It was during the fourth quarter that I realized that
Speaker 5: this wasn't my game, that there had been some rapidati
Speaker 5: so I watched it pretty closely, and like the on
Speaker 5: the uniform front, I thought it was a little bit
Speaker 5: ridiculous that they showed that Mike Vrabel was walking around
Speaker 5: in a bum Phillips cowboy hat before the game. They
Speaker 5: really leaned into all that and they got their come up,
Speaker 5: and I thought that that essentially the Texans did a
Speaker 5: really nice job of Bobby Slowick of not playing around
Speaker 5: case Keenan, but putting them into a position because of
Speaker 5: the way they used singletary to kind of thrive down
Speaker 5: the stretch. And there were a couple of moments where
Speaker 5: I thought the defense too on the g doesn't get
Speaker 5: talked about a lot like this is a really well
Speaker 5: coached defense. And I thought that they punished Levis who
Speaker 5: left with an injury at the end. It sounds like
Speaker 5: he's gonna be okay, but he was limping around. I
Speaker 5: thought he was gone for the year initially when he
Speaker 5: got whacked.
Speaker 16: Yeah, this is a defense that I'm sure Greg would
Speaker 16: like to point this out because I know we've talked
Speaker 16: about this in past weeks that I mean, they've given
Speaker 16: up a ton of points to different teams in the past.
Speaker 16: They've been a CIVI at times. I mean, I think
Speaker 16: about the Baker Mayfield game where CJ. Strout had to
Speaker 16: outplay him to get them that victory. They haven't been consistent,
Speaker 16: but I was pretty shocked, very impressed today by their
Speaker 16: performance because it was an offense that struggled to get
Speaker 16: going and the defense had to keep them in the game,
Speaker 16: and they were able to do that kind of allow
Speaker 16: them to get their footing in the second half again
Speaker 16: kind of playing around case Keenum to a degree before
Speaker 16: he was able to find a bit of footing.
Speaker 3: But overall, I love that you brought up Grenard.
Speaker 16: This is a game in which Jimmy Ward was lost
Speaker 16: pretty early because he got dinged a little bit of
Speaker 16: a friendly fire situation, and yet they were able to overcome.
Speaker 16: So it's it's a good win for them because of
Speaker 16: where they came from last week.
Speaker 3: I felt like, you.
Speaker 16: Know, even in the first core of this game, I
Speaker 16: was very conflicted about your team of ATM pick. You know,
Speaker 16: you went with the Vikings over the Texans, and from
Speaker 16: a fall and no voice in there, I thought, man,
Speaker 16: they should have gone Texans.
Speaker 3: They're the more envoilable team to watch.
Speaker 16: And in the second quarter, I'm going, you know what,
Speaker 16: I'm glad I didn't say that on records that they're
Speaker 16: not looking very good right now.
Speaker 3: But luckily they turned it around.
Speaker 6: I mean, it was thirteen to nothing. The defense pitch.
Speaker 6: They gave up a touchdown drive the first drive of
Speaker 6: the game for the Titans. They pitched the shutout the
Speaker 6: other the rest of the way because the only other
Speaker 6: points came off of turnovers in their end where they
Speaker 6: held up ten straight drives. I mean Singletary had one
Speaker 6: hundred and seventy yards the Titans had two oh four.
Speaker 6: That's a pretty dominant, dominant day by them. And case
Speaker 6: Keenum just starting for another franchise, and I know he
Speaker 6: used to start for this franchise again, but like getting
Speaker 6: another like replacement, went in a spot.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know he was gonna play all week.
Speaker 6: We thought it was gonna be Davis Mills because he's
Speaker 6: been the backup all year. And then afterwards he's quoted
Speaker 6: saying like I'm built for this, and you know what
Speaker 6: he is, right, he is built for winning a week
Speaker 6: fifteen start against the Titans wearing oilers uniforms like that
Speaker 6: actually is exactly what Case Keenum is built for. Maybe
Speaker 6: nothing else, but that's it. And it might be like
Speaker 6: the difference between the making the playoffs to not.
Speaker 2: And in fairness, they're probably like the rest of us,
Speaker 2: where Davis Mills and Case Keenum are like the same person.
Speaker 3: It's fine, it's not.
Speaker 1: They're very different. I hate wise neck wise, they're very different.
Speaker 16: But yes, one guy, if one guy understands Houston, it's
Speaker 16: case Keenum who went to the University of Houston.
Speaker 3: Some ties there anything else on this game?
Speaker 16: Shook it that defense again, last four drives for the Titans, punt, punt,
Speaker 16: go to overtime punt, and another punt in overtime.
Speaker 3: That's a great way to get a win on the road.
Speaker 2: And thank god, Kayimi shout out, because we didn't need
Speaker 2: a tie in the mix. The last thing this season
Speaker 2: needs is a tie to muck up the standings any further.
Speaker 4: So we get and when that doesn't even matter anymore.
Speaker 2: The Matt Prater hit one from fifty eight today and
Speaker 2: like the nobody even like batter an eyelash, right, we
Speaker 2: don't care anymore.
Speaker 3: Shook. You had a nice dinner this weekend, as I understand.
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, we uh you know, we went out a
Speaker 16: few times this weekend. My fiance graduated with her doctorate
Speaker 16: from Cleveland Stage. Yet I require anybody who sees her
Speaker 16: you must refer to her as doctor Bridget from here
Speaker 16: on out.
Speaker 3: That's the rule.
Speaker 2: When you get married, can you take her name so
Speaker 2: then we have to call you doctor Shook.
Speaker 4: I think that's how it works, the transfer.
Speaker 3: I don't think he becomes a doctor.
Speaker 2: I think the official title. I think you can get
Speaker 2: away with it legally.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 16: I was never good at math, so I don't quite
Speaker 16: understand the transitive property. But we'll have to double check
Speaker 16: on that. Yes, that dinner. So that dinner, guys. I'm
Speaker 16: sitting there Great Lakes Brewery in Cleveland right having a
Speaker 16: nice time.
Speaker 1: Go home.
Speaker 16: Pull up Twitter about five hours later, and I see
Speaker 16: I have a mention from someone who happened to be
Speaker 16: in the same setting. He said, Hey, uh, I almost
Speaker 16: me and my buddies almost took your table from your party.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 16: You know, wanted to stop by say hey, but you know,
Speaker 16: didn't want to interrupt you. I would like to buy
Speaker 16: you a beer, but you know you are the pipe.
Speaker 16: I don't know if you have time. Got to get
Speaker 16: back to the weights. Hey, yes, we're making me a minor,
Speaker 16: the smallest of.
Speaker 1: Proven Oh not the smallest and one of the biggest.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 2: The the universe is growing because uh Zumwaal told us
Speaker 2: he was at I think a soccer game over the
Speaker 2: weekend and an ATM listener it came up that Jay's
Speaker 2: the voice of the podcast now and then and the
Speaker 2: and the friend was like or the guy in the
Speaker 2: soccer fields, like, can you do the intro for me?
Speaker 1: I mean, how did they know it was him? That's amazing?
Speaker 3: Well, he must have explained.
Speaker 2: He's wearing a T shirt that said, I'm the voice
Speaker 2: of the Around the NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: Get that.
Speaker 16: Do you think he's going to get that more than
Speaker 16: the fact that he voiced a video game character in
Speaker 16: one of the largest video games of about a decade ago.
Speaker 2: Cousin, Yeah, Nico, would you like to go bowling?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 2: That is currently Jason's claimed the fame, But I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's starting to make some inroads here at NFL media. Shooky,
Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy, Thanks guys, see it all right? So
Speaker 2: thank you to Shook. Let's hit up these Saturday games.
Speaker 2: Let's let's knock these out. There were three played on
Speaker 2: Saturday week fifteen. Let's start in Cincinnati.
Speaker 17: This will be from twenty nine yards away from straightaway,
Speaker 17: shorter than an extra point, looking for the seventh walk
Speaker 17: off field goal of his NFL career and his second
Speaker 17: in a span of three weeks. Robbin's ready to hold
Speaker 17: the snap. The placement through right footed.
Speaker 18: Kick, Oh Kit is good and the Bengals are still
Speaker 18: alive in the playoff huh, as they rally from a
Speaker 18: fourteen point deficit in the fourth corner and beat them
Speaker 18: in sona Vikings hit over time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you know, I'm talking about the Bengals. That's
Speaker 2: what a real team does in lee. At the very least,
Speaker 2: I don't even need you to win a super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I don't even thinke the playoffs, but at least get
Speaker 2: me to Christmas Eve. Like, give me a Christmas Morning
Speaker 2: where my team is still in the mix. That's what
Speaker 2: Bengals fans can say. After another memorable Jake Browning afternoon,
Speaker 2: he led Cincinnati to three fourth quarter touchdowns and directed
Speaker 2: the game winning drive in ot.
Speaker 3: That led to that field goal that allowed.
Speaker 2: The Bengals to knock off the Vikings twenty seven to
Speaker 2: twenty four. So the Bengals are still alive in the
Speaker 2: AFC playoff race. They got to keep winning. They don't
Speaker 2: have a lot of tie breaker help, but they got
Speaker 2: to keep winning. That's what they've been doing. And they've
Speaker 2: also put Greg the football world unnoticed that they are
Speaker 2: more than their injured superstar QB.
Speaker 6: I was so impressed how they came back. This was
Speaker 6: the game of the weekend by Fires actually, I think
Speaker 6: one of the most entertaining games of the season just
Speaker 6: in terms of things happening that were crazy. The Vikings
Speaker 6: hadn't allowed a touchdown for almost three games by the
Speaker 6: time they got to the fourth quarter, and then they
Speaker 6: give up three in the fourth by Browning. I just
Speaker 6: think of the plays that he had to make that
Speaker 6: they had to make to go win this game. There
Speaker 6: was a twenty one conversion to Jamar Chase before Jamar
Speaker 6: Chase left the game with the shoulder injury. A great
Speaker 6: throw to Chase, and you got to get on the
Speaker 6: Brian Flores defense for kind of struggling to finish off
Speaker 6: some games this season. This has been a bit of
Speaker 6: a trend. Chase goes out with the injury. They also
Speaker 6: lost DJ Reader unfortunately for the season, to a quad injury.
Speaker 6: Right off the bat.
Speaker 4: He's blown both quads down.
Speaker 6: It's really sad because he's entering a free agency year
Speaker 6: and he was playing great and that that is devastating.
Speaker 6: But Browning gets that third and twenty one, they get
Speaker 6: a touchdown. They need a touchdown on their last drive
Speaker 6: and t Higgins makes one of the plays of the
Speaker 6: year by bossing the defensive back of Caleb Evans at
Speaker 6: the catch point and then reaching across with thirty four
Speaker 6: seconds to go.
Speaker 1: That was outrageous.
Speaker 3: No look reach.
Speaker 5: I would say, that's like if you looked at the
Speaker 5: catches of the decade right like past ten years, that's
Speaker 5: in the top ten.
Speaker 3: That was incredible.
Speaker 1: That was there.
Speaker 6: Before that, It kind of got lost to the shuffle.
Speaker 6: Joe Mixon got absolutely stoned on a fourth and goal,
Speaker 6: well at the goal line, we weren't going to get
Speaker 6: any points of the two yard line, and he somehow
Speaker 6: runs over I've in pace. And then the final one,
Speaker 6: Browning on the move and this is the one that
Speaker 6: I give him the most credit for, you know, a
Speaker 6: dime to Tyler Boyd when they were in a long
Speaker 6: yarded situation and looked like they were gonna punt the
Speaker 6: ball back in overtime and that sets up the game winner.
Speaker 6: I mean, like, I don't think it's that fluky. I
Speaker 6: think Jake Browning and the way they're playing offense is
Speaker 6: really effective.
Speaker 4: Right now.
Speaker 5: I have like bad eyes sight obviously, so like on
Speaker 5: our NFL Plus things, I have to wear glasses to
Speaker 5: even see the monitor over there.
Speaker 3: So uh, like I was watching this one.
Speaker 2: And if you haven't seen the show, think junior soprano
Speaker 2: really like a coke rim thing.
Speaker 5: Well, they're terrible, Like they're not you shouldn't be wearing
Speaker 5: them on screen because they're not the reflective so it
Speaker 5: just looks I have like light burning out of my eyes.
Speaker 5: But anyways, like I was watching this from a distance initially,
Speaker 5: and from.
Speaker 3: A distance from a distance like Jake.
Speaker 5: Browning to me if it was just like, that's actually
Speaker 5: just Joe Burrow. I know they're not exactly the same physically,
Speaker 5: but it's like what they're doing with the offense and
Speaker 5: who he is, It's like, I don't feel this is
Speaker 5: a big step down from Joe Burrow. I really don't
Speaker 5: like we'll be seen over the small sit. I'm not saying,
Speaker 5: you know, universally or that's his career.
Speaker 2: Like Laul doesn't have the same zip, but he has
Speaker 2: there's something boxy something.
Speaker 5: About him where it's like, and I think if we're
Speaker 5: going to credit Stefanski for what he's done with backup
Speaker 5: quarterbacks like Zach Taylor in the last three games and
Speaker 5: what he's done with Browning, and part of it is
Speaker 5: just Browning and who he is, and he's extremely confident
Speaker 5: this is working, and it's like the Bengals are an
Speaker 5: absolute factor in a mystery factor. To me, it's like
Speaker 5: I don't want to deal with this team down the
Speaker 5: stretch like Cleveland plays them in that week eighteen tilt.
Speaker 5: I think that's going to be very important for both teams.
Speaker 4: Here's a good stat from ESPN.
Speaker 2: Browning completed ten to fourteen passes for one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty six yards and two touchdowns to his wide receivers
Speaker 2: on the final six drives. And like we said, we
Speaker 2: don't know how serious this Jim ar Chase injury is,
Speaker 2: but it obviously is something to keep an eye on.
Speaker 2: But like the Browns who you just brought up, this
Speaker 2: team is showing that they find a way to keep
Speaker 2: it going.
Speaker 3: And I think we've talked about.
Speaker 2: It because we got to get to the team of ATN,
Speaker 2: but we've we talked about t Higgins has had a
Speaker 2: really rough contract year. It's funny how almost like one
Speaker 2: game island game and a lot of ways could restore
Speaker 2: his prospects and free agency because you showed, he showed
Speaker 2: in multiple points in this game what kind of talented
Speaker 2: player he is and the instincts on that touchdown.
Speaker 6: Incredible, You're right, and it was a tough one the
Speaker 6: team of atn Here. You have seventeen three in the
Speaker 6: fourth quarter, you have a seventeen to three lead in
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: I mean, we have cursed twenty four see three forty play.
Speaker 1: And then you give up two touchdowns. You respawn.
Speaker 6: Nick Mullins, who had a overall even though he threw
Speaker 6: for three hundred and three yards and twenty six for
Speaker 6: thirty three, had a regrettable day, probably the worst interception
Speaker 6: of the entire season, where he was falling down and
Speaker 6: just kind of gave it to the defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: I mean, and that was.
Speaker 6: He somehow it was like, I'll see your touchdown, Josh Doubbs,
Speaker 6: when you were falling down and throwing it, and I
Speaker 6: will top you like an all timer. I was the
Speaker 6: defensive lineman for the Bengals, said like I couldn't believe
Speaker 6: what he was doing, like when he was doing it,
Speaker 6: but then he drives them down the field even though
Speaker 6: they dropped. You know, there was a pick six that
Speaker 6: got overturned at one point. He could have thrown like
Speaker 6: four or five, but he drives them down the field,
Speaker 6: responds makes a crazy pass that he never should have
Speaker 6: tried to Jordan Addison on the coal line, where Kevin
Speaker 6: O'Connell made a curious carl and our guy Chris Rose
Speaker 6: had a great call in at where he was kind
Speaker 6: of like, what are you doing? But it works out yea,
Speaker 6: And so they're up seven points before that, and they
Speaker 6: get a possession in overtime where O'Connell just feels like
Speaker 6: he got in his own head.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't like the prospects.
Speaker 5: We'll talk about the lines in a minute, but they
Speaker 5: got the Lions twice sandwiched around Green Bay with vikings.
Speaker 1: That they needed to.
Speaker 5: They were in a great position to stop the bleeding
Speaker 5: because like they've lost three of four, and some of
Speaker 5: it's on the coaching, some of it's on the decisions.
Speaker 5: You're flip flopping quarterbacks left and right, and Mullins is
Speaker 5: Mullins right.
Speaker 6: He has one of the worst interception rates in the history.
Speaker 6: I think he has the worst interception rate in the
Speaker 6: history of pro football for anyone that's thrown over five
Speaker 6: hundred times.
Speaker 1: But I didn't think he was like that crazy bable.
Speaker 2: He's a second street Quarterack really is like almost a
Speaker 2: third tran guy. That defense who've been pumping up, has
Speaker 2: two chances to close out the game, and they can't.
Speaker 3: Do it right.
Speaker 6: But when when I was saying, I think O'Connell got
Speaker 6: in his own head. They get the ball in overtime,
Speaker 6: they move it to the opposite forty one forty two.
Speaker 6: They're on the edge of field goal range. They need
Speaker 6: about a yard to get a first down, and ty
Speaker 6: ty Chandler, who all day has been making o'conna look
Speaker 6: bad because he looks so good, twenty three for two,
Speaker 6: and all the Vikings fan in media who all season
Speaker 6: have been saying, we've seen ty Chandler. He has so
Speaker 6: much more juice than the rest. Why don't you give
Speaker 6: them the rock? Finally they're forced to because Madison's out.
Speaker 6: He goes twenty three for one to thirty two. They
Speaker 6: need a foot on third and one, and they call
Speaker 6: a touch push with Mullins with one hundred and eighty
Speaker 6: pound Brandon Powell behind them and one of the worst
Speaker 6: run blocking centers in front of them, and Nick freaking
Speaker 6: Mullins at quarterback, and it doesn't work, and you're like, okay,
Speaker 6: it's now fourth in a foot. At least we get
Speaker 6: another try at this it's overtime. They call the same
Speaker 6: play again, it doesn't work, and they're going home like
Speaker 6: six plays later.
Speaker 2: That's the second time in three weeks that Minnesota coaching
Speaker 2: kind of gaffed and yacked on their own shoes in
Speaker 2: a big spot in the game.
Speaker 3: And when you are.
Speaker 2: A fringe team, when you don't execute and you don't
Speaker 2: call the game the right way, that's how you get beaten.
Speaker 3: Now, only thing I'll say about team of aten. We
Speaker 3: got to keep moving here.
Speaker 2: So seven and seven, that's an out of conference loss,
Speaker 2: so tiebreaker wise not his killer.
Speaker 6: But geez jeez, come on, guys, are they they are
Speaker 6: still in the playoffs as of this recording.
Speaker 3: Well so we're so we're you know, twenty eight other teams.
Speaker 6: But no, actually, I mean the exact amount of teams
Speaker 6: that'll make the playoffs.
Speaker 5: I'm saying that like they're just some part of this,
Speaker 5: like milk toast in the middle of the road, soup,
Speaker 5: keep calm, carry on. I'm agitated about this team right now.
Speaker 4: Listen. We're all upset.
Speaker 1: This one was deaf.
Speaker 4: We're all upset.
Speaker 3: This one was deaf.
Speaker 4: We're all hurt and vulnerable, But angles get.
Speaker 3: Team of atl what the Bengals were. We can't we
Speaker 3: can't do it. We can't do that to ourselves.
Speaker 6: Sorry, I did find myself kind of enjoying this Bengals experience.
Speaker 1: If nothing else, they're fun.
Speaker 3: We can't speak that out loud.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's inside the house.
Speaker 3: Talk well, get us to the next game.
Speaker 4: Then, all right to Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: We're good job.
Speaker 6: Lock it up the Bengals there, West Bros. They were
Speaker 6: sweating it out. They've had a few like this.
Speaker 1: They won.
Speaker 4: All right, let's keep moving.
Speaker 2: Trey Serman, the back left of Gardner Minshew drops the
Speaker 2: throw on first down over the middle.
Speaker 3: Touchdowns No Alley cots touchdown as he walks.
Speaker 1: Across the goal line.
Speaker 15: Touchdown Hi, indeed, why one play, no problem?
Speaker 10: Eighteen yards to the tight end, and the Colts lead
Speaker 10: twenty to thirteen.
Speaker 2: Who backup QBS everywhere you will look. That is Matt
Speaker 2: Taylor with the call wfn I. Gardner Meanshew matched his
Speaker 2: career high three touchdown passes. His team ran for one
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy yards. That's how you help out a
Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew type. And the Colts stay in the playoff
Speaker 2: picture with they thirty to thirteen went over the Steelers, who,
Speaker 2: to quote the great late poet Thomas Earle Petty, are
Speaker 2: free fall out into nothing mark. The Colts spotted the
Speaker 2: Steelers thirteen points early, didn't matter, didn't matter, It wasn't
Speaker 2: even close.
Speaker 3: The matter of the Steelers. The last three games have
Speaker 3: been absurd with this team. Steelers are cooked.
Speaker 5: We talked about the Colts like a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 5: and I know that the response in general was well, yeah, okay,
Speaker 5: they're around, but they're not doing a lot for me.
Speaker 3: But I would just say this, like there's a.
Speaker 5: Lot of teams like that, and they're consistently really well coached,
Speaker 5: and it's like they didn't blink when they were down
Speaker 5: thirteen to nothing. And and when you get this the
Speaker 5: version of Minshew that can produce, and you're getting they
Speaker 5: have no Anthony Richardson. Jonathan Taylor is not on the
Speaker 5: in the lineup right now. They lost Zach Moss in
Speaker 5: this game. Michael Pittman goes down. Guys like Trey Sermon
Speaker 5: and Tyler Goodson are coming in and carrying the ground game.
Speaker 5: And I think that Shane Steichen week after week has
Speaker 5: a good game plan and it's like, there's something about
Speaker 5: this team that I trust them to find a way
Speaker 5: into the playoffs. Who knows what will happen, But a
Speaker 5: lot of these guys are the same players who were
Speaker 5: on the roster last year when that thing free fell
Speaker 5: into nothing, and it's the same.
Speaker 4: You can't take Tom Petty's line. I just said Tom
Speaker 4: Petty's line.
Speaker 1: You hear it. I was connected.
Speaker 3: Did you give him credit?
Speaker 5: That is that is the not the first time that
Speaker 5: was ever said in human history, but he made that
Speaker 5: that praise very.
Speaker 6: Give anyone credit when during the song because he probably
Speaker 6: wasn't there.
Speaker 2: You would side against Tom Petty. This is your lowest height,
Speaker 2: Greg that I understand everything you're.
Speaker 5: Saying, Mark four and against Mike Rabel, Bill Belichick and
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin the season that's good.
Speaker 4: Well, who are the teams, not the coaches?
Speaker 3: Who are the teams? All right, But I'm saying he's
Speaker 3: he's just going up and not the fakes.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 6: This This is why Stane Steiken will win Coach of
Speaker 6: the Year if he goes ten and seven in a
Speaker 6: day like this where it is Trey Sermon and Goodson
Speaker 6: and you lose your two best players. You mentioned Pittman
Speaker 6: and Moss, two of your best players, and you at
Speaker 6: a halftime or in the second half, have a drive
Speaker 6: where you run it thirteen straight times. Mmmm mm, that
Speaker 6: take up eight fifty seven. We're not even gonna let
Speaker 6: Minchew throw a pass. I think eventually he did and
Speaker 6: it didn't work, and then they kicked the field goal,
Speaker 6: but it didn't matter. They ended the game that way.
Speaker 6: They out Steelers a Steeler. They were tougher than Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: on both fronts. I mean they're off defensive line did
Speaker 6: a really nice job in this game. I think Minshew's
Speaker 6: had his best two game stretch of the season. I
Speaker 6: know they only scored seven points offensively, but I thought
Speaker 6: he played well less week and they lose Minka Fitzpatrick
Speaker 6: for the Steelers. Like the Steelers are out of ideas.
Speaker 6: They're punting in spots they need to take a field goal,
Speaker 6: like I think in Pittsburgh people are winning. Like is
Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin totally safe? Like that's a question for another day,
Speaker 6: but it is impressive to me. To Mark's point, he's
Speaker 6: taking all these same players. I think he's gonna win
Speaker 6: Coach of the Year at this rate and to.
Speaker 5: What you said before, they ran the bault on twenty
Speaker 5: of the final twenty one plays and it works.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: I just don't have to take him seriously though, right.
Speaker 6: And I don't know, Yeah, actually I don't think they
Speaker 6: will give them. There are five, eight and sixteen. There's
Speaker 6: so many teams two will get in.
Speaker 2: There's so many teams that we've talked up more. I'll
Speaker 2: use the Vikings or the Packers examples. Is like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is a game you should take care of business
Speaker 2: against the team that you're better than, and then they
Speaker 2: go and get beat Like the Colts are a team
Speaker 2: that are proven, they're a kind of a step ahead
Speaker 2: of the real mediocre in the LIE.
Speaker 5: I would just say like, like there are fan bases
Speaker 5: like Argers fans, if any of them exist, like they're
Speaker 5: they're thinking like we're in a lot of trouble, Like
Speaker 5: Colts fans could be like, we've got a coach that
Speaker 5: he's going to be around for a long time.
Speaker 6: And oh, by the way, their defensive line like Odengbo
Speaker 6: and ebucom and everyone, like it's easily the best of
Speaker 6: the entire Chris ballad era. Like EJ. Speed had a
Speaker 6: big time game at Lineberg. They have things they can
Speaker 6: feel good about for when Richardson gets back, and they
Speaker 6: might they might just get into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Five teams again at eight and six.
Speaker 6: At this point, only two of those five would get
Speaker 6: in if the Browns do make it.
Speaker 2: Let me see this at Falcons home Raiders home Texans.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean to play on Saturday.
Speaker 3: Two and one.
Speaker 4: We'll be playing on Saturday.
Speaker 6: I mean two and one right now, I'm starting. I've
Speaker 6: been saying all along, if you win ten games, you're
Speaker 6: probably in. That's still true, like probably meaning more than
Speaker 6: fifty percent. But the way these it's shaping up, some
Speaker 6: ten and seven team or two might be sitting at
Speaker 6: home watching because a lot of these teams are winning
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 3: All right, let's hit the final game on Saturday to Detroit.
Speaker 3: We go.
Speaker 12: Golf takes wants to throw on fourth and two, A
Speaker 12: lot of time grows and zone on touchdown suffer three
Speaker 12: on the night for Sam Laporta on fourth down, Golf
Speaker 12: came up prowing, found eighty seven, run him wide open
Speaker 12: in the end zone.
Speaker 1: It's not the Lions.
Speaker 2: Forty one and dead for seventeen lou Dan team of atail.
Speaker 1: Let's bring them.
Speaker 3: Back and do it.
Speaker 4: We set them free world.
Speaker 2: Yes, Dan Miller WXYT Jared Goff matched a career high
Speaker 2: with five touchdown passes, three to rookie tight end Sam Laporta,
Speaker 2: the Lions hammer of the Broncos forty two to seventeen
Speaker 2: Greg exactly the type of the game Lions needed, Swagger restore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did not expect this.
Speaker 6: You know, they were stopped on their first few drives
Speaker 6: and at that point they had gone tenth straight drives
Speaker 6: without scoring at all over the last.
Speaker 1: Couple of games.
Speaker 6: And then they went five straight touchdown drives. And these
Speaker 6: weren't just touchdown drives. They were fast touchdown drives, all
Speaker 6: of them four minutes or less, just like we're gonna
Speaker 6: go right down the field. And it's a little unfair
Speaker 6: to Russell Wilson, but I saw this idea in the
Speaker 6: athletic and I thought it was really smart. This matchup
Speaker 6: sort of was what the Russell Wilson trade wrought. In
Speaker 6: some ways, it's not Russell Wilson's fault, but they haven't
Speaker 6: had a top fifty pick in the draft for years
Speaker 6: because of the Russell Wilson trade for two years, and
Speaker 6: who's scoring all the touchdowns. On the other side, Jamir Gibbs,
Speaker 6: who that plan to sit him early in the season,
Speaker 6: It's worked. He's right now a top five running back
Speaker 6: period and is as explosive as anyone.
Speaker 1: Another top fifty pick.
Speaker 6: Laporta is going crazy, all these young guys in Detroit
Speaker 6: showing what you can do when you build around draft picks.
Speaker 6: Come in their quarterback, who's kind of a mid level
Speaker 6: quarterback versus another mid level quarterback. They don't have any picks,
Speaker 6: and I just am so impressed with the Lions. I
Speaker 6: know they're not perfect, but they are. They've taken that
Speaker 6: next step in the way they're building this team and.
Speaker 5: They're the opposite of the team we just talked about
Speaker 5: the Colts, because all these guys you mentioned were not
Speaker 5: on the roster last year. They're drafting well, they're organizationally
Speaker 5: well built, and like when you get golf playing like
Speaker 5: you did yesterday, that's the Lions team that could handle
Speaker 5: with that could hang with anyone.
Speaker 6: They had all five of their offensive linemen stay healthy
Speaker 6: throughout the whole game. I think that might be the
Speaker 6: first time all season actually, so like they and they're
Speaker 6: getting healthier. They might get CD deuce back charging Chauncey
Speaker 6: Garden Johnson, they might get Ellen McNeil back and then
Speaker 6: James Houston and Pass Rusher. So on defense, they they
Speaker 6: told the broadcast crew, we're going to be way more aggressive.
Speaker 6: We've been sitting back and at least for this game
Speaker 6: at worked.
Speaker 5: They But you did get Sean Payton getting into it
Speaker 5: with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: That was spicy.
Speaker 4: I didn't see that what happened.
Speaker 3: Aiming at Russell Wilson on the sideline.
Speaker 1: They he did do.
Speaker 6: Do we have the sound of Sean Payton, uh talking
Speaker 6: about that? That Russell Wilson back and forth? Because it
Speaker 6: was nice.
Speaker 3: It was upset about the call. That's all simple.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 4: That was up said it the call.
Speaker 3: Listen. Would I talked with Russell abouts? None of your business?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure. It was a frustrating night for Peyton
Speaker 2: and company. You thought maybe this was your chance to
Speaker 2: announce yourself in a primetime game, as you know, take
Speaker 2: a seriously, just beat the Chargers, get over five hundred. Instead,
Speaker 2: you're back into dropped into that beefy middle class again.
Speaker 4: You do get the Patriots next week. But that's that
Speaker 4: was not a good showing.
Speaker 6: They could go three and oh they will need to
Speaker 6: to possibly make it, but their schedule allows it. But
Speaker 6: this I think was a kind of an eye opener
Speaker 6: that revealed, yeah, we maybe can't really hang And I
Speaker 6: give Aaron Glenn some credit. Melafon with their safety who
Speaker 6: came in off the bench was had like a career
Speaker 6: day and they were just way more aggressive, like trying
Speaker 6: to take it to the Broncos with a lot of
Speaker 6: blitz is a lot of crazy stuff to fumble by
Speaker 6: Russell Wilson early was big.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great, great, great weekend for the
Speaker 2: Lions who say bye bye to the Packers in the
Speaker 2: division race. Jared Goff has a good pick me up game,
Speaker 2: five freaking touchdowns, so very nice, uh for the former
Speaker 2: team of ATM. Let's take a break and finish out Sunday.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back time now for the Sunday Drive
Speaker 2: presented by the first ever Toyota Grand Highlander. Let's head
Speaker 2: to the desert where the Niners kept doing Niners things.
Speaker 11: Now they're gonna spread him out Rocos into a shotgun.
Speaker 11: How he goes out? Ride right? Watch by Antonio Hamilton
Speaker 11: Juwan Jennings goes in the right slot, watch by the
Speaker 11: safety Jaymon Thompson. Purdy looks right now comes.
Speaker 9: Back middle wide open McCaffrey touchdown, see M see with
Speaker 9: a beautiful Calie routes.
Speaker 1: What a play.
Speaker 3: Bye bye Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: M greg popping Tim Ryan with a call k NB.
Speaker 2: Are some of the touchdowns of the Nighters scored today.
Speaker 2: We're just totally young contested. There was a debo touchdown
Speaker 2: to start the scoring. Or Deebo Samuel, Who's the most
Speaker 2: dangerous offensive player in the sport?
Speaker 3: Right now? You career argue, I think he's.
Speaker 4: Up to your two two three two. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I got a thirty nine on a state mandated test
Speaker 2: back in ninety six, but I can tell you he's
Speaker 2: had a lot of touchdowns, multiple touchdowns all month. And
Speaker 2: he goes completely unnoticed in motion and just rolls out
Speaker 2: party just turns and goes, yeah.
Speaker 4: All right, here we go essentially.
Speaker 2: Jogs into the end zone to get to the scoring
Speaker 2: going in what was another blowout win for the Mighty
Speaker 2: Niners forty five to twenty nine. It clinches the NFC
Speaker 2: West title. Uh moves their winning streak to six consecutive games,
Speaker 2: and the Niners, like I said last week, are simply
Speaker 2: inevitable right now. Christian McCaffrey. Two interesting things here in
Speaker 2: the MVP. Watch Dak melts down in Buffalo Party has
Speaker 2: another christull clear, clean game with four touchdowns. I think
Speaker 2: he takes a big lead in the MVP with Christian
Speaker 2: McCaffrey now coming off just one of those games when
Speaker 2: he goes into the Hall of Fame one day, if
Speaker 2: his body allows him just to hang around for a
Speaker 2: few more years at this level, he's a Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame player. He was just absolutely a nightmare and this
Speaker 2: was a bad matchup for Arizona's defense and the type
Speaker 2: of defense they play. McCaffrey is a guy who just
Speaker 2: absolutely savages teams that play a lot of his own.
Speaker 2: And he went for one hundred and fifteen yards on
Speaker 2: the ground in a touchdown. He had five catches for
Speaker 2: seventy two yards through the air with two touchdowns. So
Speaker 2: it was just outrageous what you got from McCaffrey and
Speaker 2: a reminder of the power of this team. The biggest
Speaker 2: scare mark would be Rock Purdy takes a nasty shot
Speaker 2: to the face and neck was flagged for a penalty
Speaker 2: and he's down on the turf writhing and they're like,
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, not Purdy and he goes into the
Speaker 2: blue tent.
Speaker 4: But he ends up just missing about three plays.
Speaker 2: This is in the first half, comes back in and
Speaker 2: goes right down the field and then throws another touchdown pass.
Speaker 4: So the Niners keep rolling.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're a Niners fan, you just hope that,
Speaker 5: like you, remain charmed on the injury front. They it's
Speaker 5: been pretty good for them overall. And just to your
Speaker 5: point on Deebo Samuel the touchdown to George Kittle, it's like,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, is anyone on defense wondering that George Kittle
Speaker 5: is involved on this play? It's just simply what it
Speaker 5: wasn't even a great throw because he kind of leaped
Speaker 5: for it, but it was like wide open. Like these
Speaker 5: guys are just like the way that they create passing
Speaker 5: routes for them, it's like they are wide over.
Speaker 4: It was that Kittle didn't have a score in this.
Speaker 3: Game, well he was.
Speaker 5: It was the one where hen for it after he
Speaker 5: caught it. I mean, and listen, I get it that
Speaker 5: no one cares about QB rating, but just as a
Speaker 5: relative like mark of where Brock Purty is. He has
Speaker 5: thirteen one hundred plus passer rating games in his first
Speaker 5: twenty appearances. Only Patrick Mahomes and Kurt Warner had more,
Speaker 5: and so yes, it's an environment of the Niners around him.
Speaker 5: But like we just say it every week, it's like
Speaker 5: Purty is like the he stirs the drink, and it's
Speaker 5: like they're this absolute unstoppable machine right now. And it's
Speaker 5: like the Cardinals put up two hundred and thirty four yards.
Speaker 3: On the ground.
Speaker 5: If I knew that ahead of time, I thought, maybe
Speaker 5: they're finding a way to like stay on the field
Speaker 5: and keep the Niners offense off, and it's like, I
Speaker 5: don't think so. The Niners put up forty five points
Speaker 5: and there's an effortless nature.
Speaker 3: To it, right.
Speaker 6: I mean this game was kind of the case for
Speaker 6: and against Purdy because his numbers are gonna be so
Speaker 6: off the charts now efficiency wise, and it was absolutely perfect.
Speaker 6: And then as you point out, like three of the
Speaker 6: touchdowns there was not anyone in an area code and
Speaker 6: that's just how it worked out.
Speaker 1: But I don't think they're sweating it.
Speaker 6: I think McCaffrey's gonna if he keeps it going and
Speaker 6: gets like, let's say, twenty three hundred yards from scrimmage
Speaker 6: and twenty six touchdowns, he's gonna get some votes too, and.
Speaker 1: He should like he's that good.
Speaker 6: He's a he's at twenty touchdowns now and in over
Speaker 6: seventeen eight one hundred yards from scrimmage. But I don't
Speaker 6: think they're worried about it. They're pretty psych they won
Speaker 6: the division. You could hear it in Kyle Shannon's voice,
Speaker 6: just saying like they are pumped.
Speaker 4: He threst step.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they really want to get two home games, and
Speaker 6: I think they are on track to do it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think they are the heavy favorite for
Speaker 2: that one seed. I don't I don't know what Colee
Speaker 2: Shannon said, but I almost a certain someone said, hey,
Speaker 2: this is just the first step.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do love to say that.
Speaker 3: They got that coach speak down. You've got a beat
Speaker 3: on that. Thank you.
Speaker 4: We've been doing this podcast a long time.
Speaker 2: The only thing I'll say as we move on is
Speaker 2: should I get a little bit nervous about giving up
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty four yards on a day when
Speaker 2: you were playing a little shorthanded? Maybe, But I almost
Speaker 2: sense Mark last week maybe a little bit too. This
Speaker 2: is so easy for the Niners right now that they're
Speaker 2: not even playing at their peak sharpness right now with
Speaker 2: some of these lesser opponents, and they're just just buzz
Speaker 2: swing everybody.
Speaker 3: One little thing about that.
Speaker 5: Eric Armstead, Javon Hargrave both not active today, and Nick
Speaker 5: Postill look banged up too. So I don't know the
Speaker 5: periods were like they didn't know the full cast and
Speaker 5: crew out there. And you know, Arizona's a good has
Speaker 5: been a good.
Speaker 6: Don't that there's a it's a league wide trend right now.
Speaker 6: All these defenses which are great, and most of these
Speaker 6: teams are on teams that are leading by the way,
Speaker 6: the way to beat them is to run. It's true
Speaker 6: for the Cowboys against them, and so it's true for
Speaker 6: the forty nine, certainly true for the Jets, which have
Speaker 6: a great defense. It's true for the Ravens. I would
Speaker 6: even say, as good as the Browns are, it's probably
Speaker 6: true for the Like all the best defenses, if you're
Speaker 6: gonna beat them, you'll probably do it running. They'll give
Speaker 6: it up there. And so that is a little bit
Speaker 6: of a cause only. But I don't know who's going
Speaker 6: to expose it in the NFC. There's not right now,
Speaker 6: We're like we have to like fish deep into the seat.
Speaker 6: You're concerned about the Niners as defense in gen Yeah,
Speaker 6: but it's like, for what it's worth, if.
Speaker 3: You can, if you if they stay healthy.
Speaker 2: The only way to beat this team literally is to
Speaker 2: do one of those games where you have a you
Speaker 2: keep the time of possession, weigh in your favor and
Speaker 2: running the football.
Speaker 4: It's a good way to do that.
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Speaker 8: Up to the thirty eight with a first down on
Speaker 8: the first snap of the third quarter, Stafford from a
Speaker 8: strong right set play fakes.
Speaker 15: Set up a throw full set Dick down the left side.
Speaker 3: Where is the coverage? I'll touch to the enzie.
Speaker 2: Don't look now, Joe Barry on this statue.
Speaker 14: He is Cooper Cup for the third week.
Speaker 8: In a row, sixty two yards from Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4: Sorry, JB kucked over hit a cup line there.
Speaker 3: I think you seem to want to jump into some
Speaker 3: of these booths I'll.
Speaker 4: See I'll see JB at the barbershop.
Speaker 1: Mane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll offer an apology, all right.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Cooper cup all alone down the sideline against the worst
Speaker 2: pass defense in the NFL. Matthew Stafford hits him. Stafford
Speaker 2: throws for two fifty eight. He also hooked up with
Speaker 2: DeMarcus Robinson for another touchdown, and the Rams they hang
Speaker 2: on for a twenty eight to twenty win over the Commanders, who,
Speaker 2: like I said, haven't won in multiple months now.
Speaker 4: Who was on this one? I was Regan talk about it.
Speaker 6: I think you could use the word moribund to describe
Speaker 6: this Washington team, at least until Jacoby Brissett came in
Speaker 6: about ten minutes to go, because like the Rams totally
Speaker 6: dominated this game.
Speaker 1: It was encouraging to see that.
Speaker 3: Slice me off a piece of that Jake.
Speaker 4: Brisk hm pracs always welcome.
Speaker 6: It's too long since we heard him. Like they were
Speaker 6: doing everything. You had the Stafford like trick shots, You
Speaker 6: had the hole shots, he had the arm angles like
Speaker 6: you had it all. But one thing I like about
Speaker 6: this is that this Rams team is that when they
Speaker 6: need to run, they absolutely can. Like short yardage, They're
Speaker 6: a very good team just handing it to Kayen Ruins.
Speaker 6: And this game got so stupid late because they gave
Speaker 6: up two touchdowns to Jacoby Brissett who came in for
Speaker 6: Sam Howell, that they had to pick up a first
Speaker 6: down or two to close off the game, and they
Speaker 6: didn't get fancy. They just handed off to Kyron Williams
Speaker 6: four times for twenty yards.
Speaker 1: Game over. And that's a part of this Rams team.
Speaker 6: I don't think nationally people have caught up to quite
Speaker 6: as much that they are a very good like straight
Speaker 6: ahead power running team. Cal get benched, Howell got removed,
Speaker 6: but Ron Rivera said that sounds more serious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got taken out of the game.
Speaker 6: But Rivera said he's still our starter and he's going
Speaker 6: to start next week. But he was terrible in this game,
Speaker 6: I would say, and he's been bad for about three
Speaker 6: or four weeks. I think his worst stretch of games
Speaker 6: has been the last month. Twenty six passes for one
Speaker 6: hundred and two yards and then Jacoby Brissett comes in
Speaker 6: there eight for ten one four two touchdowns. He probably
Speaker 6: won some fantasy leagues for people who uh no start
Speaker 6: now started Terry mclaur and, who finishes six one for one,
Speaker 6: or he frustrates the hell out of.
Speaker 1: The Terry McClure. Oers came him finally, and I bet.
Speaker 2: You know you got scary Terry sitting on your bench tonight.
Speaker 3: With thirty eight points or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's a rough one, hey, That that incredible sequence McLaurin.
Speaker 2: Forty eight yard catch to the LA one or forty
Speaker 2: seven to play. So a touchdown is taken off the
Speaker 2: board by an offensive pass interference, then the drive gets
Speaker 2: extended on a pass interference call on fourth down. The
Speaker 2: Commanders take eight snaps without scoring before Brisket hit Samuel,
Speaker 2: more than three minutes had passed on the clock. And
Speaker 2: then on top of it, GREGI obviously, well you see
Speaker 2: it all the time. Now, remember you just said it
Speaker 2: on Monday night that finally it's going to be official,
Speaker 2: that everyone's always going to do it.
Speaker 3: They're down fourteen.
Speaker 2: They decided to kick the extra points because of course
Speaker 2: Ronover is probably not even aware that that's a thing,
Speaker 2: and the kick gets blocked and it's just kind of
Speaker 2: a fitting way for Washington to lose yet again.
Speaker 6: That was the worst game manager I think I've seen
Speaker 6: all season, because they were the touchdown was on the board,
Speaker 6: it was twenty eight to twenty with four to fifty
Speaker 6: five left. That it's reversed and they have it first
Speaker 6: to go at the one, and they they bled the
Speaker 6: clock down to under five seconds.
Speaker 1: For their next three plays, they bled three minutes off
Speaker 1: the car.
Speaker 5: I think that's do you put a little bit because
Speaker 5: I would say that not just Ron Rivera's got Eric
Speaker 5: the enemy involved in that. You've got Brissett who's not
Speaker 5: been on the field.
Speaker 6: And like, I think that might have been part of it,
Speaker 6: that it was Bressett, but it's more on Yeah, the
Speaker 6: offensive coaching set, but that's it's Rivera, it's everything. I
Speaker 6: mean that that was ugly, but nice to see Stafford,
Speaker 6: who leads the NFL in EPA and UH success rate
Speaker 6: since week eleven according next to it. That's when he's
Speaker 6: in rhythm. I like that, like two point five to
Speaker 6: four seconds letting go to the ball.
Speaker 2: What else Stafford leads Leagan uh. Greg Rosenthal newsroom moans.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, roads are crazy.
Speaker 2: It's like at certain points I have to like check
Speaker 2: to make sure Greg's pants are still on with some
Speaker 2: of these.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 6: The best throw of the game was when Kyraena Stafford's
Speaker 6: under pressure. He has to let it go about seven
Speaker 6: seconds early and just throw it up as high as
Speaker 6: possible to get rid of it.
Speaker 1: And kyroen Wya has dropped that one.
Speaker 2: But my god, is I look over at Mark when
Speaker 2: all these just men moaning, they look for his reaction.
Speaker 2: Mark just stoneface looking straight ahead. So maybe not out
Speaker 2: of the ordinary. I don't know.
Speaker 5: You tell me, I'm very plugged into my job, but
Speaker 5: I don't know if I I don't think think too
Speaker 5: many things on the football field illicit the same reaction
Speaker 5: that you get from Greg when he's like deeply wound
Speaker 5: in something.
Speaker 2: To the Superdome car back to throw, looking for the
Speaker 2: zone and he gets the touchdown to number eighty.
Speaker 1: Great the touchdown?
Speaker 3: Man, can you say wide open?
Speaker 4: He was wide open?
Speaker 3: It just makes you scratch your head.
Speaker 4: I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 3: Can we just stop complaining?
Speaker 13: Shut up? Saints Nations stopped complaining. It doesn't even the
Speaker 13: touchdown call. Oh oh, if only Jimmy Graham was playing eighty.
Speaker 13: Jimmy Graham was like fifty years old. If Jimmy Graham
Speaker 13: was playing more snaps, maybe the Saints to be better
Speaker 13: this year. You just won another game easily. You're in
Speaker 13: first place, okay, and maybe this.
Speaker 2: Is my team hasn't been to the playoffs at thirteen years,
Speaker 2: and we're banging on the Saints coaching staff. After Jimmy
Speaker 2: Graham scores a touchdown, enough, Derek Carr passed for three
Speaker 2: touchdowns and the Saints took the sauce and the moots
Speaker 2: off Tommy Cutlets in a twenty four to six.
Speaker 4: Win over the Giants at the Superdome.
Speaker 2: The win keeps the Saints, as I said, tie to
Speaker 2: top the NFC South of three games to play. Good job, Saints.
Speaker 2: They're absolutely in the mix to win this division. Back
Speaker 2: to back one sided wins for the much derided hometown.
Speaker 5: I would say that any Saints fan would have to
Speaker 5: say it in knowledge like this was the Derek Carr
Speaker 5: game you're waiting for on some level.
Speaker 4: Play let's hear from Dennis Allen.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 10: I don't know how I'm getting questions about quarterback this week,
Speaker 10: but I thought quarterback played really well.
Speaker 1: So make sure we get that on.
Speaker 2: Record that I that's a troll job of all these people, yeah,
Speaker 2: in and around the Saints, both the people that cover
Speaker 2: on them, fans of the team.
Speaker 3: I see you denna sound because I get it too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that it's also kind of like, let's calm down.
Speaker 6: You're seven and seven against statistically the easiest schedule in
Speaker 6: the league by far, with the most expensive project.
Speaker 4: Sure there's gonna be a column about that.
Speaker 6: Uh no, No, I'm just saying they got to go
Speaker 6: win against the Rams. That is a big game. Both
Speaker 6: are seven and seven. The Rams are technically the wild
Speaker 6: card right now and the Saints are one spot behind them.
Speaker 6: They're trying to win the Division two. But like that,
Speaker 6: that is a big game, and they this was their
Speaker 6: best game of the season, no question. Defensively, they did
Speaker 6: not allow the Giants into the red zone. I mean
Speaker 6: they destroyed them. They sacked Dommy Devitos seven times before
Speaker 6: a couple of garbage time possessions. When it was twenty
Speaker 6: four to six, the Giants only had one hundred and
Speaker 6: one yards.
Speaker 1: It was outrageous.
Speaker 6: The offense was really efficient, twenty four points and only
Speaker 6: eight drives. Carr was spotless. Camara goes for over one hundred.
Speaker 6: He was for one hundred and ten yards. And they
Speaker 6: won these two games fifty two to eight. To your point,
Speaker 6: against the bad teams, so they have set themselves up
Speaker 6: to save their season. I do think it is funny
Speaker 6: like him peacock and and everything when they've been incredibly mediocre.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the thing they were Like.
Speaker 6: I heard Tomario Davis and locker room talking about all
Speaker 6: the outside noise, we got to shut it out. And
Speaker 6: he's like talking about his own fans. That's the outside noise,
Speaker 6: which well, it's.
Speaker 2: Pretty great, extraordinary about and the coach doing that is
Speaker 2: in part a response to this this team specifically, for
Speaker 2: whatever it is. Sometimes there's just a team and this
Speaker 2: is this is fine because I think we've all been
Speaker 2: in this situation. Saints fans are in it this year.
Speaker 2: There's just a team that gets on your nerves in
Speaker 2: a way. And if it's the coach and a quarterback
Speaker 2: tandem that are leading the way, that will make it
Speaker 2: even more pronounced.
Speaker 4: And that's Saint sansor just fed up.
Speaker 2: And I think Allen's frustration because he's been in the
Speaker 2: crosshairs and so has been the quarterback. That's him letting
Speaker 2: off a little steam more.
Speaker 1: This game, I will get their hopes up in this game,
Speaker 1: will get them happy.
Speaker 5: I think this was I have no problem with Saints
Speaker 5: fans being nonplus with Dennis Allen.
Speaker 3: I just don't not obviously, Mark Knight, I'm saying, I know.
Speaker 4: But I'm not oous.
Speaker 3: I'm not even like.
Speaker 5: I also like I don't want to keep his having
Speaker 5: the Derek Carr conversations. But that's but like the idea
Speaker 5: that like Derek Carr should be praised more than he's
Speaker 5: been praised is also ridiculous.
Speaker 3: He's not at a good season.
Speaker 5: The one guy who has been awesome and you mentioned
Speaker 5: is Damario Davis, who has been on arch your team
Speaker 5: and mine in the past, and they let him go.
Speaker 5: He has week to week, I feel like in year
Speaker 5: to year, this is the dude that shows up. He
Speaker 5: had ten tackles today, a sack. He was all over
Speaker 5: the place. It's like you can count on him every
Speaker 5: single week.
Speaker 6: He he shows how much smarts can make a career.
Speaker 6: Because he's not quite a Hall of Favor of It man,
Speaker 6: he's like a Hall of very good, Like he's getting close.
Speaker 6: He's lost a step clearly this year, and he's not
Speaker 6: quite the same in past efense, and yet he's still
Speaker 6: a total difference maker. Paso had three sacks in this game,
Speaker 6: Brian Percie, their rookie had a couple of sacks. They
Speaker 6: were they just strangled the Giants offense, Barkley, Tommy DeVito, everything,
Speaker 6: So it.
Speaker 1: Was really good.
Speaker 6: If they can be that type of defense and they
Speaker 6: haven't given up a touchdown now and how long, I
Speaker 6: don't know, nine quarters.
Speaker 1: I think right, they didn't give up one last week.
Speaker 6: And if they can play defense like this, then you
Speaker 6: just needed a mistake free type offense, and that's how
Speaker 6: they played today.
Speaker 2: Just flush it, try to have a nice end of
Speaker 2: the season. Passano, by the way, I liked what he said.
Speaker 2: He did the Tommy Couplet cutlets pinch finger gesture after
Speaker 2: one of his sacks, and his quote, I'm from Philly.
Speaker 2: We got a whole bunch of Italians out there, so
Speaker 2: we're used to Italian.
Speaker 4: It's a good line. Let's move to Charlotte.
Speaker 10: The ball is between the hashes. It is a twenty
Speaker 10: three yard chips show for the wind, chancewer to snap,
Speaker 10: Hecker puts it down, Eddie swings the leg.
Speaker 1: The kick is up. It's good.
Speaker 4: Chew up, Neil Diamond.
Speaker 3: We haven't heard it in a long time.
Speaker 10: I love it in a season where so much that
Speaker 10: could go wrong has gone wrong, And on a day
Speaker 10: where the elements conspired, Mother Nature gave us her own metaphor.
Speaker 10: Here is the rain, Here is the two access, Where
Speaker 10: is the clue? Here is the wind on the field.
Speaker 10: A little ray of sunshine.
Speaker 3: Ah put it in the file. Wow, Christ put it
Speaker 3: in the file.
Speaker 2: That is a man that has been through it with
Speaker 2: the Panthers, A little ray of sunshine. A niche shroth
Speaker 2: with a call w RFX steady Eddie Pinero got it done,
Speaker 2: booting a twenty three yard field goals time expired. Panthers
Speaker 2: beat the Falcons, come out guys nine to seven in
Speaker 2: that steady downpour. The Falcons playoff hopes now on life
Speaker 2: support with the lost mark good for the Panthers and
Speaker 2: interim coach Chris Tabor and they're play by play guy bad,
Speaker 2: very bad. The latest inevitable crushing turnover from Desmond Ridder.
Speaker 4: Take us back to that moment.
Speaker 5: This is the kind of game that, like, if you
Speaker 5: had your doubts about Arthur Smith and you wonder about
Speaker 5: like the actual overall plan, here here's your evidence, Like
Speaker 5: Desmond Ridder had, I think maybe the worst interception of
Speaker 5: the day a red zone disaster, which seems to happen
Speaker 5: to him on a weekly basis. This is a team
Speaker 5: that says, our identity is to run the ball against
Speaker 5: a bad Panthers defense.
Speaker 2: You run the ball thirty one times at well, that moment.
Speaker 2: Take me to that moment there. What's the score? What's
Speaker 2: the situation they're in the red zone? Because I remember
Speaker 2: looking at the box score and saying to myself, Oh,
Speaker 2: they kick a field goal, the game's over, and instead
Speaker 2: they have Ridder rolling out on a pass.
Speaker 5: I don't have an answer for why they're doing that.
Speaker 3: That slows my mind.
Speaker 5: This is meant to be an offensive minded coach that
Speaker 5: would never put you in that situation. I mean, all
Speaker 5: your skill posions, players have been invisible.
Speaker 3: The entire way.
Speaker 5: It just it's a it's a it's a it's a
Speaker 5: low moment for this entire team. And like Bryce Young
Speaker 5: didn't look great either, but it's like they're the one
Speaker 5: team that found a way to have Bryce Young seal
Speaker 5: up a game winning drive when he's not been able
Speaker 5: to do this the entire season.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like it's.
Speaker 6: This ten and nice throw in there to meet build
Speaker 6: that once a week it's like this and the Falcons
Speaker 6: completely fell apart. I mean that is as crush. This
Speaker 6: is a this is a game that gets you fired potentially.
Speaker 6: It's a cry for help type of game. I trust
Speaker 6: Steve Weis saying that he thinks when he was here
Speaker 6: that there there was no way Arthur Smith was going
Speaker 6: to lose his job. Now they've lost a couple of
Speaker 6: games since one of them was to the Panthers, and
Speaker 6: to your point, you were saying, what thirty one rushes
Speaker 6: for fifty two yards? And so the way the game
Speaker 6: ends is that Ritter interception happens when they could go
Speaker 6: ahead and there's still seven and a half minutes left,
Speaker 6: you figure out, okay, we'll get the ball back. No,
Speaker 6: the Panthers end the game with a seventeen play eight
Speaker 6: yard drive. So that is I just think on the
Speaker 6: levels of losing like that is the worst possible loss
Speaker 6: that's there is that a That is the way you
Speaker 6: you don't make the player that's the.
Speaker 2: Quarterback audibled out on his own there when you have
Speaker 2: a chance to go up that would have put them up.
Speaker 6: What that was they were second and ten there, they're
Speaker 6: just inside the red zone. I'm not going to kill
Speaker 6: them for calling a pass play. Don't throw the interception.
Speaker 6: It was a terrible play.
Speaker 3: No, but you can't could have done a fourteen to six.
Speaker 6: You're just running the ball twice on second and ten
Speaker 6: with eight minutes to go.
Speaker 3: The score at that point is what seven to six?
Speaker 1: Seven six?
Speaker 3: So you'll play conservatives, you believe the clock.
Speaker 2: You kick a field goal that puts you ahead four
Speaker 2: points against the Panthers team that was not going to
Speaker 2: score a touchdown.
Speaker 3: This is basic stuff.
Speaker 6: I just mean on the blame by chart that's still
Speaker 6: player ninety percent there.
Speaker 2: But you have to understand your personnel and understand who
Speaker 2: Desmond River has been all year to put him the
Speaker 2: ball in his hands to win that game. That just
Speaker 2: tell to me that is you're a coach that doesn't
Speaker 2: understan Dan is just too stubborn for his own good.
Speaker 2: And that has been a case with Smith all year.
Speaker 2: Can't lose that game.
Speaker 3: You can't lose it.
Speaker 5: And to Greg's point too though, because the Falcons on
Speaker 5: defense have been there's things to like about their defense,
Speaker 5: Like a seventeen play drive that started on Carolina's own five,
Speaker 5: you never get the ball back. They kicked the winning
Speaker 5: field goal, a quarterback that's not shown zero signs of
Speaker 5: development all year long.
Speaker 6: Rough gonna be a lot of heat on him this week.
Speaker 6: And you know it happens in a week where the
Speaker 6: Bucks win a game that they weren't favored by Falcons
Speaker 6: still because of the schedule, because they still have division
Speaker 6: games and they have all the tie breakers. Like, they're
Speaker 6: not out of it. But this was the lowest moment
Speaker 6: of the Arthur Smith. They are no doubt, and they
Speaker 6: got the Colts, then at Bears at New Orleans. I
Speaker 6: mean they will be you know, they could lose all three.
Speaker 6: I know it's twenty twenty three, so they could win
Speaker 6: all three. But this feels like and Steve Wisch is
Speaker 6: obviously really good at his job. He used to work
Speaker 6: with the Falcons. He's plugged in with that team. He's
Speaker 6: not working with them anymore, but knows a lot of people.
Speaker 6: So I'm sure he wasn't pulling that out of thin air.
Speaker 6: But that was also at the beginning of this month.
Speaker 2: If this season craters and he's three years Smith on
Speaker 2: the job without a playoff appearance, and what.
Speaker 1: You got, you got wrong.
Speaker 5: We're losing the script here with the Falcons. It's like,
Speaker 5: what are they about? And like, I think you have
Speaker 5: to feel that if you're the ownership.
Speaker 4: Robinson was a non factor in.
Speaker 1: This game seven for eleven. The conditions.
Speaker 6: When I saw those conditions today, actually thought, oh, well
Speaker 6: that's perfect for the Falcons. That yeah, they're they're a
Speaker 6: rugged think so team that like they should be able
Speaker 6: to run the ball. And you end up with on
Speaker 6: seven for eleven, Cordell Patterson five for negative too, Ritter
Speaker 6: five for negative too.
Speaker 1: It's like, what's what's happening all right?
Speaker 3: To Sunday Night Football war?
Speaker 15: The shotgun on second out of six, takes the snap,
Speaker 15: sets his feet, steps up, hits skins out of a
Speaker 15: sack back pedals are a forty five going deep, lookout trouble, but.
Speaker 3: It is caught your vine coming down with the ball?
Speaker 15: Is Isaiah likely in between a pair of Jacksonville defenders
Speaker 15: who looked in position to pick the ball off.
Speaker 3: So there was a.
Speaker 18: Don't throw that ball?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, great catch.
Speaker 2: A signature play well Lamar Jackson the call Jerry Sandusky
Speaker 2: and Rod Woodson Ravens Radio and.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 2: Do the Ravens win games with the same hanash as
Speaker 2: the Niners?
Speaker 3: For example, or you.
Speaker 2: Know when the when the Cowboys are going right, or
Speaker 2: even the Bills at their top gear. Maybe it's not
Speaker 2: as sexy, but they don't care. Nobody cares because the
Speaker 2: Ravens keep winning and they've been doing it all year
Speaker 2: and they continue to do it. And they did it
Speaker 2: on Sunday Night Football, a twenty three to seven win
Speaker 2: over the Jaguars, who.
Speaker 3: Just didn't And this is like, come on, guys, we're
Speaker 3: supposed to be trying.
Speaker 2: To They were frustratedly ye, I mean, who would have
Speaker 2: been frustrated? Imagine you're a Jaguars fan anyway, So the
Speaker 2: Ravens moved to eleven and three and one step closer
Speaker 2: to that number one seed in the AFC, and Mark
Speaker 2: this was a game in which Lamar Jackson did a
Speaker 2: bunch of magical things, even if it wasn't his most
Speaker 2: gaudy statistical game. And the Jaguars repeatedly shot themselves in
Speaker 2: the foot and you know, look pretty small in a
Speaker 2: big spot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Jacksonville is shrinking on both sides of
Speaker 5: the ball. And I know, number one, you don't have
Speaker 5: Christian Kirk. That's hurt them a lot more than I
Speaker 5: think people would expect, but I'm watching their defense also
Speaker 5: just cave in in the Ravens tonight. You're right, they
Speaker 5: aren't maybe the flashiest of outfits that come to memory
Speaker 5: or mind, but they ran for two hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: one yards at six yards per pop. I mean, you're
Speaker 5: getting a Lamar Jackson a version of where he ran
Speaker 5: for almost one hundred yards tonight. Hoesler will They didn't
Speaker 5: make mistakes down the stretch where the Jaguars are a
Speaker 5: team that they're getting close and there.
Speaker 3: Frustrating because they missed.
Speaker 5: Two field goals, which is kind of unheard of in
Speaker 5: today's NFL. For the most part, you got two fumbles
Speaker 5: for Trevor Lawrence won a strip sack, but won a
Speaker 5: pretty bad fumble in the first half, dropped the ball, yeah,
Speaker 5: and a drive that basically ended inside the Ravens five
Speaker 5: rip before the house. So it's lost opportunities, missed opportunities.
Speaker 3: They are eight.
Speaker 5: I mean they've lost three in a row. It's been
Speaker 5: a terrible, terrible run through the AFC North.
Speaker 6: Right, they kind of got to their part of the schedule,
Speaker 6: which for the most part was soft. They had that
Speaker 6: nice win against Buffalo in London that really kind of
Speaker 6: turned their season around. But mostly it's been soft. And
Speaker 6: then you get to the tougher part of the schedule
Speaker 6: and they don't get any w's against the Bengals Browns, Magnifi,
Speaker 6: and it might not end up costing them. It might
Speaker 6: there they're eight and six. It's now a three way tie, Magnif.
Speaker 4: Always welcome the Franks.
Speaker 1: That's so good. We got her in twice.
Speaker 3: We got the has done this twice where you it
Speaker 3: takes a lot of courage.
Speaker 5: You get frags and everyone's transported and then Greg speaks next,
Speaker 5: and I but it's like we've got you know, it's
Speaker 5: a it's a jarring juxtableity.
Speaker 2: Frags again and let's and then let's just let it
Speaker 2: breathe just for like five seconds.
Speaker 4: I know it's late.
Speaker 3: Magnie, hm hmm.
Speaker 19: Well you couldn't do it. I just feel good, doesn't
Speaker 19: you alcoholic? You couldn't I did. We just have total silence,
Speaker 19: felt chief mighty honk. That's not honky, you can't ahm
Speaker 19: isn't a hawk? That just you felt so free and
Speaker 19: we couldn't get five seconds. Let's do it again, Magnie, mhmm.
Speaker 19: You're the worst, unbelievable you are. What did you say
Speaker 19: to me last week? Mark, you have to be the
Speaker 19: most annoying man in the world. All right, go ahead.
Speaker 6: That wasn't even like a conscious things I know, Yeah,
Speaker 6: just guh, look jek. Trevor Lawrence needs to play better
Speaker 6: in these big spots. And it's weird to start with
Speaker 6: him because he also made a lot of good plays
Speaker 6: in this game that's typical of Trevor Lawrence. But I
Speaker 6: think of the first drive where he just sails a
Speaker 6: third and six that ends the drive. I think of
Speaker 6: those two fumbles, and then I especially think of the
Speaker 6: end of the first half where he makes a nice
Speaker 6: throw down down the sidelines, but it's inbounds. You're in
Speaker 6: a hurry up situation and he he makes a throw
Speaker 6: that you just can't make if you're a quarterback in
Speaker 6: that spot. I'm sure he thought he was leading his
Speaker 6: receiver to the sideline and he was gonna get out
Speaker 6: of bounds, but you just have to know you can't
Speaker 6: make that throw.
Speaker 1: The half ends after missing so many points.
Speaker 6: You mentioned the field goals and the fumbles, Like to
Speaker 6: not get any points in that situation, that's totally on
Speaker 6: the quarterback, and there's just different leaks springing up every week.
Speaker 6: With Jacksonville, who I thought played pretty well defensively tonight,
Speaker 6: but in the second half just kind of got run
Speaker 6: over by Keaton Mitchell, who and Gus Edwards and Lamar
Speaker 6: and unfortunately Keath and Mitchell left with what looks like
Speaker 6: a serious knee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the old serious injury, so serious we won't even
Speaker 2: show it too on replay, but in real time you
Speaker 2: saw it really bad, the angle and everything immediately carded
Speaker 2: and very likely we don't see Mitchell again this season,
Speaker 2: and hopefully he'll get healthy because he was a really explosive,
Speaker 2: exciting player when he was on the field. So that's
Speaker 2: another running back in that cursed running back room of
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens dealing with injury. On the positive side
Speaker 2: of it, that going back to the highlight that got
Speaker 2: us into it, this was a really fun Lamar game,
Speaker 2: a really fun Lamar season. He's been just a really,
Speaker 2: really good all round quarterback. And even if the numbers
Speaker 2: aren't crazy this season, he has absolutely been a star.
Speaker 2: And I'll once again say it because we went through
Speaker 2: an entire summer talking about it and now it feels
Speaker 2: like it's forgotten. The Ravens dared anyone else to take
Speaker 2: him from us, and I don't know if they would
Speaker 2: have ultimately matched any offer sheet and it was all
Speaker 2: just a game of chicken, or if or if the
Speaker 2: Ravens were actually serious about losing Lamar, but we'll never know,
Speaker 2: and nobody ever actually all these teams looking for a quarterback,
Speaker 2: none of them made a serious play to try to
Speaker 2: get Lamar Jackson. And this is the player that could
Speaker 2: have been had by many teams, or at least they
Speaker 2: could have been in service, had a chance to have
Speaker 2: a Services said, it's the Ravens, and I'll give a
Speaker 2: shout out to Isaiah. Likely he was the one who
Speaker 2: caught that that wild pass from Lamar. He'll set another touchdown.
Speaker 2: When Mark Andrews went out with that injury a few
Speaker 2: weeks back, and that seemed like really bad news for Baltimore,
Speaker 2: but likely he has done a really nice job filling
Speaker 2: that tight end spot and making it not be a
Speaker 2: major issue for them. So it's like these with the Ravens, Greg,
Speaker 2: it's these watch these games, and it's their ability to
Speaker 2: always make the big play, the big conversion, the big
Speaker 2: third down the big stop.
Speaker 6: That's a sign of a good team, right. They hit
Speaker 6: you at different levels defensively. Kyle Hamilton was back from
Speaker 6: the injury, look good, Matta Baka had a huge sack.
Speaker 6: They're just a team without a lot of weaknesses, and
Speaker 6: so something steps up during the game at some point,
Speaker 6: and something last couple of weeks has been Lamar's running
Speaker 6: twelve ninety seven on the night. I thought those scrambles,
Speaker 6: he had that one bad interception, This was a very
Speaker 6: typical twenty twenty three Lamar Jackson play where he has
Speaker 6: a game where he is like one really bad play,
Speaker 6: but outside of that, the touchdown drive was electric and
Speaker 6: he goes twelve for ninety seven on the ground. Last
Speaker 6: week was the most he scrambled all season, and now
Speaker 6: he followed up with twelve for ninety seven. I think
Speaker 6: it's kind of like, hey, it's go time, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: start running more.
Speaker 5: I do think that Keaton Mitchell assume presuming he's gone
Speaker 5: for a while.
Speaker 3: I mean, that looked bad.
Speaker 5: We'll see, but like he was adding this whole other
Speaker 5: element because likely also, I think is something that they
Speaker 5: didn't expect to have in this format, and it's happened
Speaker 5: because of Mark Andrews, but Keith Mitchell made them kind
Speaker 5: of special on offense in certain ways.
Speaker 3: He really was emerging, So they're gonna have to work
Speaker 3: around that.
Speaker 6: There's a reason they were favoring him over Gus Edwards
Speaker 6: really like, look, you can just look at it tonight.
Speaker 6: Gus Edwards averages three point six nine for seventy three.
Speaker 6: They just don't have that explosive element. Now without Edwards
Speaker 6: you'll see a little more justics.
Speaker 4: So yeah, is that Mitchell.
Speaker 2: My last take on this game is, Hey, Terry McClory,
Speaker 2: Terry McCauley, Terry McCauley, take the l my guy that play.
Speaker 4: They're down sixteen the Jaguars.
Speaker 2: They're going on on nothing burger drive to cosmetically make
Speaker 2: it a one score game.
Speaker 4: But they're really struggling.
Speaker 2: It's almost like Baltimore is saying, all right, we'll let
Speaker 2: you have this garbage time touchdown.
Speaker 4: They still can't find a way to do it. There's
Speaker 4: a throw in the back of the end zone.
Speaker 2: Who is at Ridley I think bobbles it, collects it
Speaker 2: rolling out of bounds.
Speaker 4: It's ruled incomplete.
Speaker 2: McCauley's really strong on the NBC telecast that it's a touchdown,
Speaker 2: the call stands as an incompletion, and McCauley is very upset.
Speaker 3: He's a big mad and that was kind of funny.
Speaker 2: We were remarking on that we go from the theater
Speaker 2: here where we watch the games on Sunday night, back
Speaker 2: to the studio, throw the game back on the tablet here,
Speaker 2: and they throw it back to McCaul He said, I've
Speaker 2: now called the league office and they said it didn't
Speaker 2: rise to the level of reverse and call.
Speaker 3: It's like, Terry, big terror.
Speaker 5: Just take the yel like move on, right, because call
Speaker 5: the league office if it's something that all of us
Speaker 5: sends as a pressing concern that truly impacted the end
Speaker 5: of the game. It's like none of us were like
Speaker 5: roiled up about it, and he's going nuts.
Speaker 6: And how is that indisputable evidence? Anyways, It's like they're
Speaker 6: slowing it down frame by frame. Oh if you see
Speaker 6: like it had just stopped rolling with the thigh. It's like, no, today,
Speaker 6: it's just said a bad FIRS sending.
Speaker 1: Then you stuck to it.
Speaker 6: No anything else, No, oh there's something else, Oh yeah,
Speaker 6: another one locked it up.
Speaker 1: You should have stayed in the nest with me.
Speaker 2: I know, but you know, to to next point. There's
Speaker 2: not a lot of excitement with Lockham the Ravens. But
Speaker 2: you've done it probably eight times and it's not to
Speaker 2: be very effective.
Speaker 1: Like four times. But yeah, decently, like, oh, we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna watch the Ravens grind out another twenty three eight win.
Speaker 2: Like that's high five each other, Like I get what
Speaker 2: Nick saying.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 6: They were like three and a half point favorites on
Speaker 6: the road against a first place team.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go, h what are you gonna do? At
Speaker 1: eleven and three?
Speaker 6: They they now gave themselves a little bit of room
Speaker 6: here where they can lose next week if you don't
Speaker 6: stop talking.
Speaker 3: Literally, I mean I think we get it. I think
Speaker 3: we get it.
Speaker 2: Like you have to understand, Mark, Greg you were in
Speaker 2: you were in mortal danger right now. It's got to
Speaker 2: get out of this video.
Speaker 5: It's been a long day. I mean I have I have,
Speaker 5: you know, I find great enjoyment in these sundays. As
Speaker 5: the day creeps towards nine pm on the West Coast,
Speaker 5: it's like at some point hit me with a brick.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Can you imagine living with me?
Speaker 2: That brick is the closing music, hurdling towards your face
Speaker 2: like Marv from Home Alone.
Speaker 3: I welcome it, all right?
Speaker 2: Well, we got more coming up on Monday Game of
Speaker 2: the Week on NFL Plus and Monday Night Football in News.
Speaker 3: Recap till then heats the Cap