1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Wife that she sent me during the dating phase. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 2: That's a good question. 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Well, this also is to answer the question how should 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: you handle disagreements when married? So it comes from TA 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: wife picks one two three, who says, my wife and 6 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: I early forties have been together for more than fifteen years, 7 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: married for twelve years. We met online because of shared interests. 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: We live in different cities, and we used to message 9 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: each other and talk on the phone. Things became flirty 10 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: when we would send a lot of spicy selfies almost 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: daily to each other. It was just our love language 12 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: and we had not even met in person at this point. 13 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: It was clear to us that we were meant to 14 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: be together, and she moved to my city after a 15 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: year we dated, We got engaged after a year and 16 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: married after that. It was the best decision and we 17 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: are both happily married with three kids. That is a 18 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: lot of spicy kids over there daily every single day. 19 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: Get in that snap school. Well, I was gonna say, Rush, 20 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: I had an external hard drive where I save all 21 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: of my old movies, photos, documents, et cetera. 22 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: That is a good question, I and that I don't like. 23 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: I'm curious about your thoughts on this because I think 24 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: that when I think when you break up with someone, 25 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: I think it is respectful to delete those peop Oh, yes, 26 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: get them all. 27 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: Out those But if you're if you never. 28 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: Broke up with them, if you're married for fifteen years 29 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: or three kids and everything is looking great. 30 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: Do you delete those pictures? 31 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: And also to I don't know if this is playing 32 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate or what, but is it almost better for 33 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: him to intentionally put it on a like hidden away 34 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: hard drive versus like keeping it on his phone or 35 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: something like that in case like, yeah, who knows one 36 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: of the kids goes through it or gets stolen or 37 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like it it feels like 38 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: more I don't know. 39 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: It feels like apparently there's. 40 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: A hard there's a hard drive. 41 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: That picture. 42 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: That's that's one thing we do not need, apparently kid recording. 43 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: So we have never seen spicy pictures. 44 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: So I was backing up said hard drive on Sunday 45 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: and I thought it would be fun to show my 46 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: wife all the photos she sent me during our dating phase. 47 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: My wife saw those pictures and asked me, why'd you 48 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: save them? Uh? Oh yeah, oh, why'd you do it? 49 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: Why'd you do it? Punkhong, you got an answer. You're 50 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: just gonna sit there looking stick husband, if they're looking pretty, 51 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: looking like a dopus with a big old hood drive 52 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: full of my things. I told her that it's just 53 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: a memory and I sometimes go through them and remember 54 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: our dating phase. My wife asked me if I find 55 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: her see in those photos, and I said yes. She 56 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: was a bit upset by my answer, do you is 57 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: there an icy under chat? 58 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: I understand you guys put. 59 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: In ice you in the chat right now if you 60 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: see what We moved on from the topic. But I 61 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: could see from her mood that it was a bit 62 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: off during the day and at night. I asked her 63 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: if it bothered her that I save those pictures of 64 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: her without her permission. She said no, and those were 65 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: meant for me, and it's flattering that I saved them 66 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: and find them hot. She asked me if I liked 67 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: how she looked in the pictures or how she looks now? 68 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: There it is there, it is. My wife used to 69 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: be quite small and peteete when we were dating. However, 70 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: she has given birth to three kids and of course 71 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: does not look the same anymore. She has also gained 72 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: twenty pounds during the pandemic that bad at all, which 73 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: bothers her too. I tried to be politically correct and 74 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: told her that the twenty five year old me liked 75 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: the girl in the picture, but the forty year old 76 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: me likes her as she is. Now, how do quick, 77 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: how do we feel? How do we feel about sad? 78 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: Answer Sophia. It seems like he's like trying to be 79 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: honest and not hurtful at the same time. 80 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: I honestly think right now, no one's the a hole. 81 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: I think she's feeling a little insecure. Yeah, and I 82 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 3: don't think he's done anything wrong, And I think he's 83 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: trying to make her not insecure, and maybe maybe this 84 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: is not exactly the best way for her to hear it. 85 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: But I don't think anyone's done anything wrong. Unfortunately, sometimes 86 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: we have insecurities and we can't always control how other 87 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: people it's. 88 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: It's true. I feel like I feel like this is 89 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he said yeah, Brittany johnsays stop it. 90 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: I don't think he said it really correct. 91 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he could have. Maybe he could have said I love. 92 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: Both Yeah, maybe that would even better. 93 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: I love the picture of yeah, which kindness to me 94 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: is like what he's saying. 95 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think because she's already feeling insecure, it 96 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: might not be received that way. 97 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, I think so. I think so. But 98 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: we carry on. 99 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 4: So. 100 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: She told me that seeing those pictures made her feel 101 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: very insecure and jealous, and she does not like the 102 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: fact that I still look at those pictures. I find 103 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: it hilarious that she is jealous of her past self. 104 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: She asked me that, since I have her for the 105 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: rest of my life, would it be okay to stop 106 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: looking at those pictures now and delete? I feel those 107 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: are amazing memories from our early dating days and I 108 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: want to keep them. However, she feels that the girl 109 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: in those pictures look so much different from her now. 110 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: She feels insecure about her body, and me looking at 111 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: those pictures makes her feel bad. I'm in a dilemma. 112 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: I want to respect her request, but I also do 113 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: not want to lose the memories from one of the 114 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: best times in my life. Would I be an a 115 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: hole if I did not delete these pictures of her? 116 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: Is her insecurity about herself valid in this case? And 117 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: if any other married women have gone through a similar situation? 118 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: I am curious To that point, we have any callers 119 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: who that could help illustrate on this matter that have 120 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: maybe been in a similar situation where a significant other, 121 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 1: maybe you're married, maybe in a long term relationship, whatever, 122 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: But message Riley on Discord and we will chat with 123 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: you after the show to get your take if you 124 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: have a similar story, and Sophia will be responding to 125 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: you a Lloyd to the end of the story. Yeah, yeah, 126 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: well right now, talk to me right now to tell me. 127 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: I think when if someone asks you to delete pictures 128 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: of themselves, especially intimate pictures, I think you could. However, 129 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: I think in this case they should also have a 130 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 3: conversation about pfew. 131 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: Yes, I think you are one hundred percent right, like 132 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: basically like, hey, like anytime you ask me anything of that, 133 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: the answer should always be yes. In addition to that, 134 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: I would love to like sit down and like have 135 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: a open and honest conversation of like why are you're. 136 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: Feeling those feelings? 137 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: If there's anything I can do to kind of make 138 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: you feel less insecure? Because I love the way you look. 139 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: I think you are beautiful, YadA, YadA. 140 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: I think is exactly what you say. I think that's 141 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: exactly what you say because like it's it's kind of like, 142 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: how can I help you? Know, it's not like going 143 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: in and because some people could go in and presume like, oh, 144 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: do you like want help losing away? Do you want 145 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: like kind of come in with all of these presumptions 146 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: about like what they think they want, but that frames 147 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: it and is like you tell me how to help you. Yes, 148 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: because I want you to get back to feeling that way. 149 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree. 150 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: Yes, So for some people asking it is just the 151 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 3: like intimate picture of her, not all of the pictures 152 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 3: of them together. 153 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: Yes. And then also I'm very curious for a quick pull, 154 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: is OPI the ahole? Is Opie the ahole? I'm very 155 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: curious on what you all have to say on this, Matta. However, 156 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: there is more to this story. 157 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: I think right now OPI is only the a hole 158 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: if he pictures without her or not. 159 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 1: I agree with that. Let's get into some relevant comments. 160 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: So a commentary, you did the right thing, But if 161 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: you like the photos so much, it's hard for you 162 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: to give them up their memories. Maybe it'll be downloaded. 163 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: But if she's insecure about the comparison, maybe it's better 164 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: to make an effort to improve the present rather than 165 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: erase the past. Opie response. I feel she looks beautiful 166 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: and does not really need to improof. 167 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 2: I don't like that comment. 168 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I feel she eventually when you honestly, it's like, 169 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: I know this might be downvoted. It's kind of like, 170 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't mean to sound racist, but it's giving the 171 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: same energy. Are you sweating now? I am sweating always, 172 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm always shweting. 173 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, all the windows are out. It's getting hot though 174 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: in Uh say. 175 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: We will later, let's open the door a little wit. 176 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: You're sure do that later, But for now, I feel 177 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: she eventually realized how silly it is that she is 178 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: insecure of herself. I just don't want to delete the 179 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: picks now, and then we're gonna later when she changes 180 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: her mind. Does that mean he's changing his perspective? We'll 181 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: see commenter down voted. Nutso your wife is deeply insecure? 182 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you guys are incredibly harsh. 183 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: Rash okay, okay, I want like Reddit to just think 184 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: about anytime someone's taken a picture of them and then 185 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: they've looked at it and not liked how they looked 186 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: in it. 187 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: You're telling me one hundred percent. Mister commenter who said 188 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: nuts called the wife nutsoll you're telling me one hundred 189 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: percent of the pictures you're like, ah, I love these, 190 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: put these on a wall. 191 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: In the moment, so photogenic that not a single picture 192 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: of you has ever been bad. 193 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, frickin' right. 194 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: I wanted to delete it. 195 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: You know what, You're ugly. 196 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: You're ugly inside and out. 197 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: Yep, mostly out inside, and that's me too ugly, and 198 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: it's you start starring you. 199 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: No be response. I would not call her desperately insecure. 200 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: I can understand her feeling bad for me lusting over 201 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: her pictures from fifteen years ago. She is absolutely beautiful 202 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: even now, but maybe she feels bad that she is 203 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: not the same person from fifteen years ago when I 204 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: have not changed much. Subtle flex but okay, but we 205 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: have an update from the next day. Twenty four hours later. 206 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: I wrote a post yesterday about my wife wanting me 207 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: to delete her spicy photos that she sent me during 208 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: our dating period. I wanted to thank everyone for so 209 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: many mature and nice suggestions. I know my life is 210 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: not as scandalous as many people who post on this forum, 211 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: but wanted to give an update on what happened. We 212 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: put our kids to bed last night and I was 213 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: sitting in the bedroom. My wife came to me and 214 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: started cuddling. She asked me if I deleted the photos, 215 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: and I told her I have not. I have not 216 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: deleted these photos, and I feel really attached those memories 217 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: of our early dating days, and it reminds me how 218 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: far we have come. I told her that I understand 219 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: that we both do not look the same as we 220 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: did fifteen years ago, but my love and attraction to 221 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: her has only grown. When we started dating, she was 222 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: the hot girl online that who I has so much 223 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: in common with, But after twelve years of marriage, I 224 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: still see her the same, but more now. That hot 225 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: girl is my family, and she made three gorgeous mini 226 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: versions of me, two boys and one girl. Everywhere everyone's 227 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: like me, even the kids are hot. I also told 228 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: her that I look at those photos because they reminded 229 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: me of a time when a relationship was so new 230 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: and how crazy we were. Is that fair? What just 231 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: that the photos remind him? Or do we believe him? 232 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: I guess that the photos remind him of this. 233 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: I don't think it's. 234 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: An issue for him to want to keep the photos. 235 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 3: I think the only issue is if she says again, 236 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: if she's like he comes to her with this plea 237 00:09:58,800 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: and he's like, hey, I want to keep the phot 238 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: and she says, I. 239 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: Don't want you to. I want you to delete these 240 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: intimate photos. 241 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: That in that case if he keeps them after she says, nice, 242 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: I don't want you to keep these Benny's Dale. I've 243 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: heard a lot of people say that who are like, 244 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: you know, in their like fifties and sixties, older who say, like, 245 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: looking back on pictures of me as a young woman 246 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: and looking back at like being confident in my body 247 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: was really important having those pictures, or people on the 248 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: other side who like wanted this wool are these a 249 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: lot a lot of a lot of I don't know. 250 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: I've had a lot of conversations with like older women 251 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: who talk about like, oh I wish I had like 252 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: those types of pictures. 253 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: Wow, that's cool. Yeah, Yeah, honestly, that is a I've 254 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: just never I've never had the opportunity to chat with 255 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: somebody that like, take some pictures. John, you know, maybe 256 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: I should stop being so ageous, I get it together, 257 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, I honestly, I've never really that's never even 258 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: crossed my mind before. But yeah, wow, there we go. 259 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: I believe, I believe who are these people? I believe 260 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: op when he says that that's That was kind of 261 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: the point that I was interested in. But I asked 262 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: her if I did or say anything to make her 263 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: feel bad about herself based on how she reacted. As 264 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: many of you guessed, she said that it was not 265 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: about what I did. You just remembered how she looked 266 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: at those photos and felt bad about herself. She started 267 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: saying things like I have let myself go, and I 268 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: wish I could be more disciplined, etcetera, etcetera. I told 269 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: her that I'm still very attracted her and try to 270 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: initiate whenever we are alone. She agreed and thanked me 271 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: for getting snipped, else we would have a lot more kids. 272 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: Oh God. However, she told me that I used to 273 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: stare at her every time that she would change in 274 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: front of me or with this in the shower. Now 275 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: I bare only notice her even if she was standing 276 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: but naked right in front of me. She said that 277 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: it does make her feel insecure about her body when 278 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: I do that. I know she is right. 279 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I was just gonna say, I feel like that's 280 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 3: more so because you've gotten used to each other. 281 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: After Yeah, I am guessing that Opie's wife is making 282 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: this more The inc. 283 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: Insurity is kind of feeding into exactly. 284 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: I definitely feel that's, at least to a small extent's 285 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: what's happening here. I know she is right, but after 286 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: fifteen years together, you kind of get used to each 287 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: other's bodies, so I feel normal for that to happen. 288 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: To Zobea's point, I told her it would be hot 289 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: and adventuress for her to send me some spicy photos 290 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: now too, but she said there is no way she 291 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: would feel comfortable taking pics like that now. Overall, I 292 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: loved our conversation and I'm glad she talked about her 293 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: insecurities to me. Finally we started talking about the photos. 294 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: She asked me if I pleasure myself looking at them, 295 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: and I told them I have in the past, especially 296 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: when the kids were small. Okay, she found that funny 297 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: and cute. I don't know why that last detail was important, but. 298 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. I had more time to myself than 299 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: the kids. 300 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: Maybe I think, if anything, you have less time than yourself, 301 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: and like young Tilden confused this to why that comment 302 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: was included, but nonetheless, she said that I had the 303 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: entire internet to find corn, and it's cute that I 304 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: still looked at her pictures. I think that is cute. 305 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: She said, I'd keep the photo okay. She asked me 306 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: to create two folders for her pictures, safer work and 307 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: not safeer work. She said that I can keep the 308 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: not safe for work folder hidden so the kids didn't 309 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: find it. For the safe for work picks, she wants 310 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: me to upload them to our eye cloud as she 311 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: wants to show those picks to our daughter. The safe 312 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: farm work. Sophia, that's safe far work, it's your mind, 313 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: gets your mind, safer work. Who's all the boat? Who's 314 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: the boys? Now? That's all right? Sophia has been rally 315 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: for a whole week and it's going south. But she 316 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: said that she is glad that I didn't delete the photos. 317 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: Thanks again for everyone who commented a lot of comments 318 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: were really cute and I got a nice perspective of 319 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: what my wife is thinking. And a commenter says, and this, 320 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: my friends, how adults hand do issues in a marriage? 321 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, Georgiack Cooper says, is this two 322 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: for two wholesome stories? Yes, it is. 323 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: I think it is. I think it's two for two wholesome. 324 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: Also two for two good communication and mediation in a relationship. 325 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: To answer to answer the question, how should you handle 326 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: issues in conflict in a marriage? Now, I got a 327 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: big question for you, okay, and let's get a freaking 328 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: pull up. Was Opie the a hole for not deleting 329 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: a media for not for not deleting? I guess you 330 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: could say in a hole for not deleting immediately? Yes? 331 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 5: Or no? 332 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: Because like it's kind of tricky because he essentially he 333 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: was very he was very cognitative and receptive of what 334 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: she said, but also didn't like acquiesced immediately and it 335 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: worked out in the end. 336 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I am hesitant to say 337 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: that he is the a hole for that because he 338 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: didn't keep it a secret from her. She asked him 339 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: a second time. She said, did you delete the pictures? 340 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: He said, no, you're my reasons. Can we talk about 341 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: a little more. I think that you losing these pictures 342 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: you will regret it in the long run. 343 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: Also additional context, the update was from literally the next. 344 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this wasn't like, this wasn't weeks. It was 345 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: we had a conversation last night. And honestly, I mean 346 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: he might not even. 347 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: Have had time, That's what I was about to say, 348 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: Like it could have even been just a purely logistical 349 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: thing of like we went to bed, I got ready 350 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: for work. I just got Oh yeah, that was a 351 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: lot photos. But yeah, I think with all of that 352 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: context that op was not the ahole. And you mentioned 353 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: something really important, which is when she asked, he told 354 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: the complete truth how he felt and the fact that 355 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: he hadn't done it yet. And eighty seven percent of 356 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: people are saying not the. 357 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: A hole, which I yeah, I think I agree with 358 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: that in. 359 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: Our chat, in our community, and you know what, I 360 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: freaking agree. But what else I agree with? What is 361 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: that we should get one of our very own on 362 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: the case. Do we have a potential caller, make a 363 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: little uxie lou Let's take a gander, meander there's two two? 364 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: Do we have one that is or are they both 365 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: relationship conflicts related to the story. I should say, ruby 366 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: hippie chick auty Chickle's good. Let's get groovy hippy chick 367 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: on the horn. Like old people like me. Let's do 368 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: it if you're able to scoot us also a twitch, Yes, yeah, 369 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: that'd be great. And let me know when. 370 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: We're on mute. 371 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: Ruby hips, groovy, hippie chick. Can you hear us? We 372 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: can't tell you yet? Hello, Hello, Hello, hello, hello, please 373 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: please on mute. I want to talk to you. 374 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: Hpy check. 375 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: Well you Sophia's launch. He's about to eat the col 376 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: i Actually like the blown up views actually a lot better. 377 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: Good catcher, Jake? 378 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: Want you want to be bigger? 379 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: Jake? Okay, let's we have to We might have to 380 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: ring ring you back later, but let's give a ring 381 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: to the second person in the queue. Oh quit right, 382 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: it's right, wait right right? 383 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: Mouse your rap mouse? 384 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Wait? 385 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: Now you're up? 386 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: Can't mouse? Can you hear me? Mouse? You're quiet? Is 387 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: the mouse right now? Are you on mute? Can you 388 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: hear us? Is your mic disconnected? Hello? Hello? Hello? Cold you? 389 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: Are you able to drag the discord over to where 390 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: we could both see a Sofia? So mouse? If you're okay, 391 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: here we go. Oh wait, oh you know what I think? 392 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: Is it the speaker, Sofia? 393 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: It might be our fault. 394 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't think something again, Mouse, I see your thing highlighting. 395 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: It seems sound as good, Peter sounds good. Is it through? 396 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: Do we know if it's routing through the speaker? 397 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry everyone, a mouse stays. 398 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: There, Mouse, stay right where you are. We cannot hear you. Also, 399 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: I feel like this is probably the same thing. Period. Oh, 400 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. 401 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: Sorry. 402 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: Well, you know what else I could do? I could 403 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: can you? Yeah? Let me do this now and then 404 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: we can try to figure out for the next call. 405 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: All right, mouse, why don't you let me see if 406 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: I can find you. Mouse. Let me see if I 407 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 1: can find you. I think I found you. Mouse. I 408 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: am we are going to hang up on this call. 409 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna call you back. 410 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna call you here. Let's try it out. 411 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: Here we go. Can't tell here we go? Mouse? Can 412 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: you hear us? I kind of can. I am going 413 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: to try to make it loud enough for the good 414 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: people at home. Okay, I say say hello one more time. Hello, 415 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: here we go. That should do it. Success. Okay, Sorry 416 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: about that. We did not mean to silence you. Your 417 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: voice is so important. So I wanted to ask, do 418 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: you have a relationship conflict story? Similar to these and 419 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: a resolution. 420 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 4: By chance, I actually have something similar. It wasn't necessarily 421 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: a good well, it kind of was a conflict, but 422 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 4: it was similar to the last story we read with 423 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 4: spicy Picks. Yeah, so iile back a couple of years ago. 424 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: Uh. 425 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 4: I was working on the Texas Border and we had 426 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: communal showers but they're like stalls, and someone put a 427 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: camera in one of those showers and it was hidden. 428 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 5: Good. 429 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 4: Then this is where my insecurities came in to this. 430 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 4: My husband like, uh, you know, I wasn't you know, 431 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 4: because you know we're married, right, And so I became 432 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 4: very insecure because I had hiken a shower and some 433 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 4: of those and I didn't know if they had gotten 434 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 4: me on video. 435 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah wait wait is this is this your employer at 436 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: a tech support thing? 437 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 5: Uh? 438 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 4: No, No. I was on the Texas Border mission and 439 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 4: we were we had a little camp set up. 440 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 2: Of icy We had is that LEAs where they yeah, it. 441 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 4: Was their showers and it's kind of like military fish. 442 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: Icye icye And and it's like okay, so and are 443 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: they are the ones are the caras in pointing in 444 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: the actual shower outside. 445 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 4: To like well no, so someone snuck in and planted cameras. 446 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: Somebody stuck in. Yes, okay, got so this is one 447 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: hundred percent illegal because someone's talking to this. Okay, thank you, 448 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: got you reading comprehension one hundred percent. Okay, please continue. No, 449 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: you're totally good. 450 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 4: Well, it came up to the point where, like I 451 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: got really scared. So I had asked my husband to 452 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 4: delete those photos of me, and he was confused at first, 453 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 4: and I felt really uncomfortable, but he actually ended up 454 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 4: deleting them and I was really grateful. But now that 455 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 4: a few a few years that passed, I'm more comfortable 456 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: with it again. But with the last story, I definitely 457 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: think he the husband did right by not well fight. 458 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: Mouse can you hear us? Oh no, we've lost another one. 459 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: I was trying to mouse you. It has gone silent. 460 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: This was sharing a very important story. You've gone silent 461 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: on our end. I can't see your box highlighting with 462 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: your voice anymore as well. It might have cut off 463 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: in your maybe my end too, I am not sure. 464 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: Oh man, this is this is the members only exclusive 465 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: for see all the things that happened. Oh, here we go, 466 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: what happened? There we go? Disconnected me we're back. We're back, 467 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: we're back. Okay, where was i? Your husband? You you 468 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: asked your husband to delete that? 469 00:19:59,160 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 2: Sorry? 470 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: Was this? How was it? And tell me if this 471 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: asked too much? Was this your husband or how was 472 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: he able to delete the photos? So? He? 473 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 5: Oh? 474 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: So he? 475 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: I didn't actually know if I had gotten my photos 476 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: personal photos like taken or recorded while I was in 477 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: the shower, but I had him delete the photos of 478 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 4: me personally because they could have been out on the 479 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 4: internet somewhere and I was scared and. 480 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: Right for them to get like matched or anything like that. Yeah, 481 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: just general, Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, you want them 482 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: to belete. It got you? Okay, Yeah, he. 483 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: He actually did. 484 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: He did. 485 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 4: We had to discuss it and everything like that, but 486 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 4: it was still very scary. 487 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: Oh, I can I can only imagine did did they? 488 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: Did they? And so? Did you feel like that was 489 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: like you ask your husband, he did it and that 490 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: was kind of the end of it. Did it feel 491 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: like a good resolution for you, just as far as 492 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: you and your husband communicating, yes. 493 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, Yeah, there was. There was a lot of 494 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 4: discussion about it. He didn't want to at first. I 495 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 4: feel like mainly because of the same reasons as you 496 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: know in a story. Yeah, and we're both military, so 497 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 4: we don't get to see each that often, so like 498 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: having those might help him out whenever I really can't 499 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 4: talk to each other. 500 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: Got you. So in closing, I'm curious to ask your opinion. 501 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: Do you think that ope, because you were kind of 502 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: in more in the wife's position in the story, A 503 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: very similar story, and thank you for sharing again. Do 504 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: you think that OPI's husband did handle it well all 505 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: things considered? 506 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 4: Or I think he handled it very well. I know 507 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 4: that he didn't delete them right away, which was my 508 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: main stance at the very beginning, but as he went on, 509 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 4: like you can notice his thoughts of wanting to talk 510 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 4: to his wife about it a little bit more. 511 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so. 512 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 4: That's why that was his main because I think that 513 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 4: was his main reason for not for not you know, 514 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 4: deleting them automatically and then whenever she said it was okay, 515 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 4: he was able to keep them. 516 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: He was able to but. 517 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 4: If she said no, I have a feeling he would 518 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 4: have deleted them anyways, because he respects his wife that much. 519 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Great, great perspective, and from someone who's literally been 520 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: in the wife's shoes. My goodness. Well, mouse, thank you 521 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: so much for coming on and sharing your story today, 522 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: and we made it happy. The world didn't want to 523 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: hear your story, but gosh darn it, we made it happen. 524 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: So thank you of course. Awesome. Have a good one Mouse, 525 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: bye by cool. So wow, it's so crazy. 526 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's always got a story that relates. 527 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: It's literally like basically, you know, different circumstances but the 528 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: same thing ultimately. And yeah, that that, if anything, affirms 529 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: to me more that that op is not there. Yes, well, 530 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: ladies and gentleman. 531 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: You're at eleven twelve. I'm sorry, one twelve. 532 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: One twelve. That means, ladies and gentlemen, if you love us, 533 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: make sure to subscribe. 534 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: I love you, and to borrow. 535 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 5: This is an episode from Deep within the Archives. 536 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: Time for okop reelam. 537 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 6: My best friend came out as a furry and now 538 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 6: he wants to destroy our friendship. 539 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 5: Here's why. 540 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you come out as a furry and 541 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: you just got a claw part of friendship or two. 542 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 543 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 5: You gotta go, you gotta go deep into it. You 544 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 5: gotta you know, you don't want to. 545 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 6: Roll over, you know, never never. Don't take it sitting down. 546 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 6: Don't be a good boy, stand up, be the baddest 547 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 6: boy possible. 548 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: I am growling and pouncing on any friendship I've ever had. 549 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 6: That we are all right, Let's see what we got here. 550 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 6: Me thirty female and George, twenty seven male. Me and 551 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 6: George met five years ago while attending the same acting class, 552 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 6: and we quickly became friends. We have lots of common interests, 553 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 6: such as dungeons and dragons, gaming, reading, regular couple of nerds, 554 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 6: you know. 555 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 5: Just hanging out as friends, you know, the regular. 556 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 6: Stuff, speaking out, geeking. Most of all, we bonded because 557 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 6: we had difficult lives. George lost his father when he 558 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 6: was seven, who was seriously bullied during childhood, and lives 559 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 6: in a pretty conservative family that had a hard time 560 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 6: accepting him as a gay man. Now he has a 561 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 6: great degree, a good job in stem and generally things 562 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 6: are better for him. 563 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 5: But he has some healing to do. Yeah, as we 564 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 5: all do. 565 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: Hey, me too. 566 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 6: So something else we have in common is using jokes 567 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 6: as a coping mechanism. So our dialogues are always playful insults. 568 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 6: We prank each other, We pretend to quarrel on things just. 569 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 5: Like you know, you know, but. 570 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 6: It's one lady, the lady dude and the duty dude 571 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 6: are our dudes together. Last Sunday, he calls me telling 572 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 6: me he has something really serious to tell me about. 573 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 5: And I was a bit worried. 574 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: Hmmm. 575 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 6: We went out for drinks and he looks into my 576 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 6: eyes and tells me, dead serious, I have a confession 577 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 6: to make. 578 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 5: I realized I'm a furry. 579 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 6: I mean yes, yeah, well like hell yeah baby, yeah, 580 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 6: a squad on his litter for me, show me the 581 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 6: furry ass, let me give it a spink. He was 582 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 6: dead serious, and as I told you, we prank each 583 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 6: other a lot, so my first reaction was to laugh, 584 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 6: like really really really hard. 585 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 5: Then I noticed he was still silent. 586 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 6: I stopped and asked him if he was joking, and 587 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 6: he told me, what do you think. 588 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: Barked and left Dad. That would have been iconic. Yeah, 589 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, and they all just like, come on, boys 590 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: are out. They all just like galloped. 591 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 5: Out, low key like me and my roommates will be 592 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 5: like your dog and. 593 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: You're basically a furry. 594 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 6: I'm a furry and you're coming out to me, John, 595 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 6: I have something to tell you. What I'm coming out 596 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 6: to you, yes as yeah, I'm very I can't believe 597 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 6: you do that to John exactly. Why don't you support 598 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 6: me and me putting a. 599 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: Because I love your suffering to I revel in it, 600 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: a little foxtail, I will give you a litter box. 601 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: You you big fox daddy. 602 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, if you're a furry then you're not allowed to 603 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 6: use the mathem anymore. 604 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 5: I heard a litter box I heard. 605 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: On a podcast at a convention. They they was like 606 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: furry convisioned in the hotel. They requested from the hotel 607 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: to put a giant litter box, And uh, I know, 608 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: but they're furry, Sam. 609 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 5: What is a litter box? Like? Like, I don't know. 610 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: It's just basically like when you pee in it, it 611 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: like clumps together, so you can scoop it like poop, 612 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: That's what That's what the leader, isn't it. Then you 613 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: scoop that out too. It's just one place for all excrements. 614 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: So like the poop is just like on the surface, 615 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: on the surface, just straight chilling, but the pee clumps 616 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: together so you can just get a big old. 617 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: Scooper and it doesn't leak through the. 618 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: No at all. It condenses into a rock wow piss rock. 619 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want to rocks rock fight. That's a different. 620 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 6: He was the one driving, so I called him several 621 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 6: times and he did not answer and I ended up 622 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 6: walking up. So he just left and left op Ben 623 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 6: for herself. I am dude, this man's a one man 624 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 6: wolf besh Over the next day, he finally answers the 625 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 6: phone and starts yelling at me that the situation gave 626 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 6: him PTSD for when he came out as gate to 627 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 6: his family. But it was even worse because you were laughing, okay, 628 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 6: maybe of being insensitive to the furry community and the comments. 629 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 6: Please tell me if I am no way coming out 630 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 6: as gay, coming out as a furries the same thing. 631 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: Right, Sam, you giant steaming piece of ship in a 632 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: litter box. You you absolute puke pile. 633 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 5: A pile dude. You're hurting my feelings right now. 634 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: I honestly agree with you. I I don't understand. Yeah, 635 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't understand. Hey, maybe we just maybe we're guys. 636 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 6: Maybe maybe we don't understand the furries and a if 637 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 6: the furry if any furries listening, yes, if you think 638 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 6: we're out of line, you know, scratch twice or get 639 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 6: me a tell me you're upset, and I will quickly 640 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 6: dismiss it. 641 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know. This seems to be Well, 642 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: we'll see what else they go. 643 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 5: Let's finish the story, all right. 644 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 6: Also PTSD from the furry stuff bit much, Well, I 645 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 6: guess it's PTSD for when he came out his guy, yeah, 646 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 6: which you know, some families can be pretty rough about that. 647 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 6: So I understand that he told me it was the 648 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 6: exact same thing and called me a bigot and refused 649 00:27:59,600 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 6: to meet me. 650 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 5: He told me he's done with me. I've done with you, Okay, 651 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 5: So I feel really. 652 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 6: Bad George was hurt by my last But I honestly 653 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 6: think that being gay, dressing like an animal our experiences 654 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 6: that should not be compared with one another. No man 655 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 6: has ever been killed, essayed, or imprison for being a furry, 656 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 6: but they should be kiddy, okitty, o kiddy, I mean 657 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 6: just like a regular dog. 658 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: Cage, you know, exactly in the doghouse. 659 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the dog out there we go. 660 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 6: I want to apologize and fix our relationship, but I'm 661 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 6: not going to negotiate my opinion on that. 662 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: Taking a stand. 663 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 5: Yo, Yo, this is a strong furry stance. 664 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: All right, John, Yeah, John, all right. 665 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 6: Would you rather your friend yeap come out as a 666 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 6: furry or as a flat earther? 667 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: Oh, definitely flat earther, because like flat earther, I feel 668 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: like I feel like I can just get some get 669 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: some laughs, like we can just have some fun. But 670 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: like furry, I'm like, they're like, hold on real quick, 671 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go We'll be at a restaurant, right. Yeah, 672 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, excuse me, guys, I'm just gonna go 673 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: to your bedroom like I'll bet no problem. And then 674 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: they're just like pissing in the middle of the floor 675 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: and we're like, what are you doing? Like this is 676 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: my open litter box? 677 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 6: Okay, wait, so if I'm if if I'm friends, like 678 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 6: in this hypothetical world where I'm friends with this furry, 679 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 6: the furry is like like are they in their complete 680 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 6: fer Sona twenty four to seven, Like I'm only hanging 681 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 6: out with them while they are completely furred up? 682 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Literally one hundred percent furry. And then wait, what 683 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: was the other option again, flat earther. Yeah, So both times, 684 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: either someone who literally non stop talks about flat Earth 685 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: or someone stop not like every conversation you have with them. 686 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: They're bringing up you know, I have a pancake just 687 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: like the Earth, like keep eating breakfast like that level. 688 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I had to call them pancakes. I call them earthcakes. 689 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: Can we do that open store for flat Earth? There's 690 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: a brunch spot for flat earthers. 691 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 6: Oh my god, there's some other things like use earth 692 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 6: in the like yeah, instead of saying like, yeah, man, 693 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 6: money makes the world go round, is like, dude, that's 694 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 6: so true. You know, money does make the world run 695 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 6: in a straight line. 696 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, money makes the world run flat mimosasses. Money makes 697 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: the world run flat mimosas. That's the best thing I 698 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: can come to. 699 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 5: Something like that, something like that. I think I would 700 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 5: choose furry really. 701 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, because I think I would rather be able to 702 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 6: have a conversation with someone who's pissing on the ground 703 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 6: than a conversation with someone who doesn't believe in like 704 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 6: a truth that's at least the first owner is that 705 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 6: they're speaking their truth right, right, right, and it's like 706 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 6: and it's like a personal truth, the personal truth. 707 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 5: Right. I feel like I don't know if I can 708 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 5: accept the flat earth thing. 709 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I think I would have if I can have 710 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: enough fun trolling them, then I would enjoy it. 711 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 5: But are they really a friend if you're just trolling them? John? 712 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: Yes? Why would I be a good friend to someone 713 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: when I can torture them to my benefits? That's the 714 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: real question. 715 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 6: Sign up to be John's friend today, accepting all applications, 716 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 6: the last one of them. 717 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: But you know, you know, Sam, you know a place 718 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: that is accepting something. 719 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 5: Well, what's that place? 720 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: John? It is accepting your stories on our slash okopiece show. 721 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 6: Yes, go submit your stories about either being a furry 722 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 6: or not being a furry. We have those two categories 723 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 6: actually refurries and non furries. That's right, inclusion. Come on in, 724 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 6: tell us the story, we'll read it. This is okayop 725 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 6: I'm Samuel Daughter and I'm John Fry and we tell 726 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 6: the funniest stories on the internet. And John, boy, do 727 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 6: I have another cancerous one for you? 728 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm ready. 729 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 5: It's about cancer, to blow your mind. 730 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 731 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 6: Mom felt entitled to my wish after I was diagnosed 732 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 6: and survived cancer. 733 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: Bro, where do they make these moms? 734 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: So? 735 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 5: Where where did they make them? 736 00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: At? 737 00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 5: Hell? 738 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: So? 739 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 5: Are there are an a bunch of Karen moms Ka 740 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 5: Karen's by a merch. 741 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 6: So today, I twenty nine female, am thirteen years in 742 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 6: remission from cancer. I had a very aggressive type with 743 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 6: less than a twenty percent chance of survival for the 744 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 6: first five years. But that's not the story I'm here 745 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 6: to share. It's just relevant information. As I was sixteen, 746 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 6: I qualified for Make a Wish. I played around with 747 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 6: a bunch of potential ideas this nation, vacations, meeting my 748 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 6: favorite band, getting electronics, all that. Once the idea of 749 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 6: traveling somewhere warm came up, my mom entitled parent was 750 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 6: convinced that that was what was happening with my wish. 751 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 6: Oh dear, the discussion of Barbados came up, so that's 752 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 6: what she set her mind to. However, I was still 753 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 6: in the fence, and after discussing it with my correspondent 754 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 6: at Make a Wish, I wanted to meet my favorite band. 755 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 6: We would not have been able to go to the 756 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 6: Caribbean for the trip, simply because of costs, but we 757 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 6: could still go somewhere warm and out of the country. 758 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 6: We live in northern Canada with negative forty celzia as winters. 759 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: No thankid oh no, thank you. 760 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 6: There was talks of Florida, California, or even Hawaii is 761 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 6: destinations to meet them. At I wrote a letter directed 762 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 6: to said band explaining how listening to them helped me 763 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 6: through treatment and that actually one song in particular that 764 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 6: the youngest wrote really helped me. And my correspondent had 765 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 6: mailed it out to the managers and they were going 766 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 6: to begin preparations for the band to get time. 767 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 5: Scheduled for the wish, which all sounds great, right. They're 768 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 5: gonna fly out to somewhere warm and they're gonna meet 769 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 5: the band. 770 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: Oh, it's like a double whammy wish. 771 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 772 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 773 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 6: They maybe not Barbados because that would be too expensive, 774 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 6: but they would be able to go to like Florida. 775 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: Her waesome. I love it. I love it already. I 776 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,239 Speaker 1: can tell it's not going to beg end Well, no, no. 777 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 6: When I told my mom what I wanted and the 778 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 6: plan to meet the band, she went nuts. She went 779 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 6: off about how she deserved this trip as much as 780 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 6: I do because she was there for me the entire time, 781 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 6: and that if I wanted to do anything besides going 782 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 6: to Barbados, I could find another adult to supervise the 783 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 6: trip because neither her or my stepdad would. 784 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: Be joining me. 785 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: What. Oh my god. 786 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 5: It wasn't what she wanted. 787 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 788 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 6: She then told me to pack my bags and I'd 789 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 6: be staying at my dad's place till I came to 790 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 6: my senses stop and then told make a wish. 791 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 5: That we were going to Barbados. 792 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 6: You're kicking out your own daughter with cancer, own daughter 793 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 6: with cancer, over a freaking make a wish. It's not 794 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 6: even yours. I spent a month at my dad. I 795 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 6: spent over a month at my dad's and during this time, 796 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 6: the correspondent was trying to convince me to go through 797 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 6: with what I really wanted. But I eventually caved and 798 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 6: let my mom have what she wanted. 799 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: Oh oh man. 800 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 6: Now, my parents did make a compromise with me at 801 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 6: the time and told me they drive me to their 802 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 6: concert in Toronto if I had paid for the entire trip. 803 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: Bro, she's a teenager with cancer. 804 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 6: Foolish seventeen year old me thought that was a great idea. 805 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 6: I get to see the abandoned concert and make my 806 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 6: parents it's happy. In the end, it costs a lot. 807 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 6: My parents complained the whole time, but at least I'd 808 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 6: see them in concert. 809 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 810 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 6: On the occasional time where the conversation of the trip 811 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 6: to Barbados has come up, my mom likes to paint 812 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 6: herself as a victim after all these years. Could you 813 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 6: imagine if you'd gone through with it and we'd messed 814 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 6: out on Barbados, you would have gone with the You 815 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 6: would have gone with a person's mom instead in last 816 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 6: us her and her stepdad behind. 817 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: I would have never forgiven you if you'd done that. 818 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're child with cancer. I know to 819 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: this day. I'm still a huge fan of that band. 820 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: They were on hiatus for a while but came back, 821 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: and this whole situation really sticks in my mind, especially 822 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: when I see them performing on shows and on their 823 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: two tours they've done post hiatus. Yes, I saw them 824 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: in a concert and it was a great time. But 825 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: I could have physically met them and gone to a 826 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: concert through make a wish while traveling to another country 827 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: without having to pay out a pocket for the experience. Amazing. 828 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 6: And I couldn't do any of this all because my 829 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 6: mom felt entitled to making my wish about her rather 830 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 6: than the actual recipient of it. I understand that she 831 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 6: didn't care to meet the ban herself. But there could 832 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 6: have been many opportunities available aside from just doing that. 833 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 5: I nearly died. It shouldn't have even been a question 834 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 5: that it. 835 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 6: Was my wish and I should do what I want 836 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 6: for my wish, especially with the extremely high chance of 837 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 6: the cancer coming back. So what do you guys think? 838 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 6: Do you think Hope he is in the wrong ear? 839 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 6: Do you think the parents are in the wrong ear? 840 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: You know who's never in the right, Adam Levin? His 841 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: existence is an insult to humanity. 842 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, And if you want to show whose boss on TikTok, 843 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 6: let's surpass him and. 844 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 5: Followers follow us. Screw Ouda Levine. But John, what do 845 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 5: you think of the like? Who's actually wrong here? 846 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: Gee? 847 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 5: It's pretty obvious. God, tell us about the commons. 848 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: Dude, let us let us know, guys, let us this 849 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: one was a doozy. You delivered, Sam, This one was 850 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: a doozy.