WEBVTT - Hope for the Breast

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey girl, Hi, it's Fall break week. Yeah, so where

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<v Speaker 1>are you headed? Well? Will Will leaving today to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Chicago because I'm going to go do the pernuvo Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a full body mri scan. Oh that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. Yeah. I just have had things that I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want a peace of mind. Yeah yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just did this with blood work and feel so much better. Good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, so very excited for that. Okay, good. And

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<v Speaker 1>then then we come back and we go to Florida. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we feel good about that. We do. It was so

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<v Speaker 1>we had to change the Florida. The sweet girl from

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<v Speaker 1>Airbnb message me and said, hey, I'm so sorry, but

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<v Speaker 1>our place got destroyed in the hurricane. And I'm like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. Remember don't worry about my fall trip.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm worried about your cottage, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was like the cutest little cottage on the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel terrible for uh. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, is there anything that I can help with

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<v Speaker 1>or do? And she said no, you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's really sad. So Then I started looking around at

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<v Speaker 1>other places around Tampa because I'm like, what I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to not be changed the flights. Then I heard that

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<v Speaker 1>there's another hurricane coming in in the direction. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I just I got to reroute us and

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<v Speaker 1>the kids were so excited about the beach. So I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go west and so but it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>chilly west. Oh yeah, yeah. So I'm like, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>that time of the year where it starts to it's

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<v Speaker 1>like weird. So we're just doing now thirty A Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have a you know, cute, little small little

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<v Speaker 1>condo right on the No. I don't want to see anybody, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>same human. Yeah, that's why I didn't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>say thirty A. Like I just we're going to the Panhandle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and here for people that don't know, like Nashville relocates

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<v Speaker 1>to yes, and I've I've only gone to thirty eight once.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not the person that's like I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go where everybody goes. I don't want to see anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want my kids and us on a beach

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<v Speaker 1>like cost and that's it. Yeah. I love thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really special because I feel like it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>bikini town like that strip isn't bikini towns. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>more like wear a pretty dresser, hooded sweatshirt, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like up our alley. I feel, yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>little Michigan vibe in that way. Yes, yeah, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about that. And we're gonna just spend four

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<v Speaker 1>nights there, which is a perfect amount of time. Great,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I'm looking forward to it. But Alan I

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<v Speaker 1>booked a a swim with the dolphins in the ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not excited about it Allan and I are

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<v Speaker 1>the same person, really, yeah, no way, even in the

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<v Speaker 1>little cove. No, nope, I'm not saying like in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of like the ocean. Oh it doesn't matter, No,

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<v Speaker 1>really I would. I went to the keys and I

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<v Speaker 1>touched their little snouts or whatever those are called. When

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<v Speaker 1>I what are those called a dolphin? Their nose? I

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<v Speaker 1>suppose anything else that rhymes. Anyways, that was magical because

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<v Speaker 1>they were in their element and I was on land

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<v Speaker 1>in my element, and so I liked that we could

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<v Speaker 1>both respect our habitats and still see each other. But

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<v Speaker 1>I am not interested in being in the water with

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<v Speaker 1>them at all really like negative seven percent. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to put the baby in there, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like Julie's really excited. Yeah, No, I love that. For

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that's excited, I'm just not that girl. Oh. I

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<v Speaker 1>love them. They're so sweet, aren't they. Yeah, they're also

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<v Speaker 1>like wildly intuitive. I mean, so the ones like horses,

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<v Speaker 1>why do I feel like we're just gonna get bashed

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<v Speaker 1>or with this? Are there though, aren't they? Like? Because

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<v Speaker 1>horses are very intuitive, Yeah, to your emotions and feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why there's a lot of like therapy horses. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is wild. So I learned when we were in

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<v Speaker 1>the Keys, we stayed at this really awesome resort kind

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<v Speaker 1>of place. And I know people have their own opinions

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<v Speaker 1>about this, but this was like a dolphin rescue you.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they also would like you could swim with them.

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<v Speaker 1>But the dolphins were actually retired navy dolphins because they

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<v Speaker 1>used to go and like they would go and check

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<v Speaker 1>out if there was anything that was dangerous to their

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<v Speaker 1>people and come back and report in their dolphin ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think that's really spectacular. That's really sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I loved that I got to hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with some veterans. Yeah, we've so we've done the swim

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<v Speaker 1>with dolphins in Orlando when Jolie was like three, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>And I get a lot of hate on that guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yeah, like I am a zoogoer. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you know what they do on the flip

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<v Speaker 1>side of things in their conservatory ship and yeah, helping

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<v Speaker 1>back animals and extinction extinctions and stuff like that, extinctions

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Yeah, And I also think it's worth noting

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of those places bring in animals that

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't otherwise survive probably out in the wild, yes, because

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<v Speaker 1>as they have whatever injuries. He is never going to

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<v Speaker 1>be my friend. No, that's fine, that's okay, But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited you should be. And then but you guys aren't

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<v Speaker 1>going anywhere. No, we just did like back to back trips.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel really good about your saying yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>we actually so. The other half of our duo lives

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<v Speaker 1>near Tampa, and Kate actually drove last night. She packed

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<v Speaker 1>up her house and her kids and her dog and

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<v Speaker 1>made her way. So she's making her way today. She

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<v Speaker 1>evacuated a little earlier to try to like beat the

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<v Speaker 1>rush and the craziness. It's just wild times right now,

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<v Speaker 1>really wild emotional times. And I'm an mpath so I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I need a hotline. We spent yesterday gutting

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<v Speaker 1>our closets and our home for things like pantry and

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<v Speaker 1>all the things we could send over into the Western

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina's coats because it's going to start to get cold there.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're just sad. It is. It's it's actually it's

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<v Speaker 1>beyond like I don't I don't think. I know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so widespread and the scope is so huge that I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we can't comprehend it yet. But now it's

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<v Speaker 1>like live feeds are coming in from people like boots

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground. It's really really devastating. I had such

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<v Speaker 1>a wide area. One of my girlfriends waspposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>getting married this past Saturday, and she texted me, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the wedding was in New York, and I

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<v Speaker 1>knew her family was from North Carolina. But she texted

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<v Speaker 1>me and she's like, Hey, just FYI, the wedding is

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<v Speaker 1>a no go because we were going to fly there

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously put to her wedding. She's like, we just

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<v Speaker 1>got in contact with my parents after five days because

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<v Speaker 1>they live in Asheville, and I was like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like I thought they lived on like not

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<v Speaker 1>that part of Carolina, but still so sad. Yeah, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what do we do sidebar? My My husband

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<v Speaker 1>just sent me a text message and said move Kristen's car?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is she blocking me? Would you please go on

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<v Speaker 1>a date with me tonight? And then sent me a

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<v Speaker 1>reservation confirmation. That's pretty cute and you ask him to

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<v Speaker 1>text Preston it's really sweet. Mind's driving mine in mine? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>President and I have this game on the highway. Sounds dangerous,

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<v Speaker 1>I know when when we're passing each other, like we

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<v Speaker 1>know we're coming from opposite directions, so he'll move into

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<v Speaker 1>the fast lane and he waves his hand out the

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<v Speaker 1>window and honks from laughing me. It happened on the

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<v Speaker 1>way here. The bus just pulled in. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>driving home and he's like, maybe I think I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to Patty such a Rednecks sweet But he's not texting

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<v Speaker 1>me dinner reservation. So how long do you think Preston's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be on the road for. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you guys had that conversation like, this is because

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<v Speaker 1>you've been doing road life for five years? Ten ten years? Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>hold his love? Yeah they had ten ten years. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>but love's only nine. Yeah, but I met him while

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<v Speaker 1>he was on the road, got it gotta go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a long time, so longer for him because

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<v Speaker 1>he's been doing it for twenty five right, So when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to your marriage and long term of things,

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<v Speaker 1>have you guys had that conversation like how much longer

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<v Speaker 1>are are we living this? Yeah? We do often, and

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<v Speaker 1>the four of us actually do often because I think

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<v Speaker 1>our goal is the same. I think it's I think

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<v Speaker 1>for Preston and Chris they will always have to do

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<v Speaker 1>it just because that's who they are. The goal would

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<v Speaker 1>be higher paid shows, less shows, less shows. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we could all be together more, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is it. He's also moved into a really fun chapter

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<v Speaker 1>that you and I have been waiting for. We should

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<v Speaker 1>probably not do this on air, but that's kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>He is really excited for me to have a big career. Great, weird, amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's strange, it's great. I almost feel like there's times

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<v Speaker 1>where I want to like FaceTime you in and just

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<v Speaker 1>have you be quiet and just like this real life.

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<v Speaker 1>But He's like, I just really think you're good at

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<v Speaker 1>what you do. I think it's time for you to

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<v Speaker 1>like flourish. I want to help you do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to use my contacts and help you do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird, foreign and great, great, yeah, good, slow and steady.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the idea would be kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>handing the baton over. So maybe my work increases, his

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<v Speaker 1>work decreases, and maybe I can take it from here.

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<v Speaker 1>Not anytime soon, right, what do you think the future

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<v Speaker 1>timeline is? Like? Do you for you like? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>like I'd like it to be X? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I would like it in the next five years.

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<v Speaker 1>I just enjoy this so much that I would do

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<v Speaker 1>this all the time, not having like I would always

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<v Speaker 1>want to still homeschool I enjoy, Yeah, but like I

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<v Speaker 1>just enjoy the podcasting space so much. I would do

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time. But it's my radio heart. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>You've always kind of been that way. Speaking of podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>you have your podcast, Kramer. You're always the supportive one.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the spouse that always has my back. What is

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<v Speaker 1>it's just launched again? You're a new Season, New Season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called in Kristen we Breast and Christian we Breast

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<v Speaker 1>tell our listeners everything. I have a promo moment you are.

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<v Speaker 1>This season is called Homecoming, which I've said on wind

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<v Speaker 1>Down before, but I did a whole season dedicated to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's about coming home to yourself. It's about taking

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<v Speaker 1>time to know your intuition. I think we have a

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<v Speaker 1>really noisy world that distracts us from listening to what

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<v Speaker 1>God gave us, which is discernment. I think we all

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<v Speaker 1>know what we need to do. Sometimes we just don't

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<v Speaker 1>trust ourselves, whether that's because of generational trauma or relationships

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<v Speaker 1>you've been in, or your own self doubt, whatever. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's really just about This whole season is just about

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<v Speaker 1>ways to get back to yourself, coming home to yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you think you've abandoned yourself the most? I

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<v Speaker 1>think so I'm a solid two on Nyagraham. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who all believes in that. I know you and

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<v Speaker 1>I do. You're a solid two. You're a helper. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to yeah, but I have to redo it. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that I've had kids, I might have changed. Oh good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's definitely a lot of two in me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think we're also just healthier right now with

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<v Speaker 1>like Aby and you know, I'm not a two to

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<v Speaker 1>fault anymore. No, I'm not a two to detriment. Yeah myself, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I abandoned myself or had abandon myself and

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<v Speaker 1>just allowing people to mute me for a really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tricky. In marrying into country music is tricky. Trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find your place in that is tricky, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to find your place anywhere, but specifically because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to just I didn't want to fall

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<v Speaker 1>in solely being a wife and a mom, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what a lot of country music wives do. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a new revival, Like I feel this little

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<v Speaker 1>revolution happening right now where a lot of those women

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<v Speaker 1>are doing their own businesses and like taking charge of

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<v Speaker 1>their own lives again. And that's so great. But for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, it just was kind of like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do. But you found me, Kramer, you did.

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<v Speaker 1>You found you, I know, but you also were like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna need you. I'm still waiting for open

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<v Speaker 1>mic night. You can do it. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>it's too good. I just because I think you should

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<v Speaker 1>and then write a script and then I'll act in it.

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<v Speaker 1>You act in it. I totally will do that. More

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<v Speaker 1>fun when we're together, it's like a I can't even like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it? It would just be fun. Oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>would have so much. It would be a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just I mean, we have fun. The thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoy about us though, is there's like a

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<v Speaker 1>safety that we have for each other, which makes us

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we can be vulnerable in those spaces. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I always know if I give you a look,

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<v Speaker 1>you will halt, and like everyone, I'll get fortressed in

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<v Speaker 1>which makes me feel comfortable to just be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm gonna share something I shouldn't share, Like

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I probably talk too much. Well, everyone listened

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<v Speaker 1>to in Kristin we Breast be a guest, So I

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<v Speaker 1>actually was gonna ask you that I haven't been asked.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually am just bringing back the guest. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>do that, right. Christine actually just asked me about that.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, what about Jane coming on? I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>would she do that? What I do that? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>across pollination? I know it is like a thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>then I also was like, well I heart be mad

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<v Speaker 1>at me. No. Anyways, speaking of October fall break, October

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<v Speaker 1>is also a breast cancer awareness month, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>doctor a Meet Patel. He's an oncologist in Jersey City,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is going to shed some light on things

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<v Speaker 1>that we as women need to look out for and

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to share all of his expertise. Let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a break and then get him on. Do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>be worried about breast cancer? Just now? The last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks from Oh that's right, and you had like

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<v Speaker 1>a something they were not worried about, but not not

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<v Speaker 1>worried about. You had that appointment, which is why you

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<v Speaker 1>missed at one episode? What did they which I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to put off, which is what I would do, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I just feel like I needed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't get there? And what do they say? They think

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<v Speaker 1>everything's fine?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, irony because I have dense breast tissue, which is

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<v Speaker 1>hysterical because they are flat. Stanley boobs, Doctor Patel, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't we can't see you yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you can't, Okay, let me take care.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about dense boobies, and we really need your

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<v Speaker 1>help to finding you. Is dense boobies mean? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe she has dense boobies. I don't either believe

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<v Speaker 1>that I have dense breast tissue, doctor Batel, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>been like, I think, let these bad boys, baby. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the perception in my brain of what dense breast tissue

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<v Speaker 1>is and the actual result of what I'm dealing with,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels the reality is not matching. You know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like if guys could only get into our FaceTime because

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, look at these things after the third one

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, Jesus girl. And Shanna had her breast surgery,

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<v Speaker 1>she was like flashy on FaceTime. I'm like, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>million dudes that would pay to be on this anyways, Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for adding credibility to this cast. No problem, We

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<v Speaker 1>needed you and your brain and degree in here quick.

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<v Speaker 2>So, actually, dense breast tissue is very, very common in

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<v Speaker 2>young females, especially females under the age of forty. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that you are, you know, unique in that

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<v Speaker 2>regard to your unique in many aspects, but in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of having dense breast tissue. It's actually very common, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's so good. It's so good that you're bringing this

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<v Speaker 2>topic up because so many young women need to know

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<v Speaker 2>about it. They need to know that screening mammograms are

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<v Speaker 2>typically not the best when you have breast dense tissues.

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<v Speaker 2>So we don't even recommend that you get a mammogram

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<v Speaker 2>unless you have one at baseline. What we do want

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<v Speaker 2>to monitor and follow up with is ultrasounds of your breast,

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<v Speaker 2>so those are more precise when you have breast debts

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<v Speaker 2>tissue to really look at any even small abnormalities and

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<v Speaker 2>then based on that, if needed, we move on to

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<v Speaker 2>a breast MRI and so that's best under the age

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<v Speaker 2>of forty. So it's not uncommon that you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to do with size of breast. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to do with previous breast augmentation or any you know,

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<v Speaker 2>treatments that you may have had, for example, you know

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<v Speaker 2>people that use oral contraceptive pills or have had hormonal

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<v Speaker 2>treatments for whatever their other illnesses or conditions are. It

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<v Speaker 2>really is not dependent on that. In fact, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>better way of looking at breast tissue when you're younger.

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<v Speaker 1>What if this person's above forty, what if you you

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<v Speaker 1>keep saying younger, and I gotta tell you my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>guests theo are He's like, well, that doesn't can that

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<v Speaker 1>would be an issue with you under forty? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I really like this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well if it's if you're above the age of forty, still,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you have gone through menopause, let's say women

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<v Speaker 2>in their fifties and our screening age is now decreased

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<v Speaker 2>to forty when mammogram should start, you can still have

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<v Speaker 2>breast debt tissue. It's more common in younger females, but

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<v Speaker 2>there are patients that past the age of fifty still

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<v Speaker 2>continue to have dense breast tissue. And that's not really

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<v Speaker 2>an anatomical term. It's more of what we see with

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<v Speaker 2>your breast tissue when we're imaging it with an ultrasound

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<v Speaker 2>or a mammogram. So still we continue to use ultrasounds

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<v Speaker 2>in those patients.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to share what they kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>you're because do you want to?

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<v Speaker 2>Or no?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't want to know? Oway Yeah, So it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had my regular ob yearly appointment, probably like

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<v Speaker 1>a month ago, and in doing that, breast exam. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've always had trouble with self breast exams because they

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<v Speaker 1>just I think, I don't know. I have to be

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<v Speaker 1>really honest with you. This is where this is really

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<v Speaker 1>good that he's on. I can't tell you the last

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<v Speaker 1>time I actually felt my boobs to even check myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm forty and I haven't had a mammogram. So

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<v Speaker 1>if we're being really honest, yeah, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it well. Mine feel a little like uneven anyways.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just had a baby like sixteen months ago

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<v Speaker 1>and so, and they are my natural breast, So the

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<v Speaker 1>tissue has just always been a little tricky for me

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<v Speaker 1>to like feel and go like you know, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to panic, but I also confuse, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not did you find something or what I didn't find anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But in that visit, they were like, so there's something

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<v Speaker 1>that we feel that isn't concerning, but it isn't not

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<v Speaker 1>concerning and so, and they were like, we need a

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<v Speaker 1>baseline mammogram. And then they scheduled an ultrasound right after.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had back to back really well done.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, yeah, and you and it sounds like they

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<v Speaker 2>move quickly, which is great, and so you know why

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<v Speaker 2>we encourage and why we definitely still want our patients

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone to continue your own clinical self breast exam

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, we as physicians.

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<v Speaker 1>She's giving herself one right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you like her to put on a paper napkin?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make you feel more comfortable about what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>in front of us? I think it's good. She's going

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<v Speaker 1>to knock that out real quick off.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm glad you brought that up because that's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole different discussion, which is what we do when we

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<v Speaker 2>make you change into basically a paper towel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really something what you guys make us do.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in a vulnerable position and a vulnerable state, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we come in and we're poking and prodding at

0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:25.080
<v Speaker 2>your breasts. So that being said, when we encourage and

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<v Speaker 2>talk to patients about breast exams is because what we

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<v Speaker 2>want you to do is to be able to identify

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<v Speaker 2>the obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We are trained, many many years of training to identify

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<v Speaker 2>those subtle abnormalities when we're moving from quadrant to quadrant,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why we use both of our hands to

0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.840
<v Speaker 2>really poke and press into your breast tissue. The obvious

0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.520
<v Speaker 2>is what we want you to identify. If you feel

0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:54.359
<v Speaker 2>some sort of irregularity that is not your normal breast,

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<v Speaker 2>If you feel obviously some sort of mass, if you

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<v Speaker 2>feel something under your arm, A lot of patients for

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just your breast. We need you to feel

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<v Speaker 2>under your arms in the accilliary regions as well. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>But that being said, you won't know unless you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>it and you continue to do it at least on

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<v Speaker 2>a monthly basis. Right, So I always say the best

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<v Speaker 2>time to do it is, you know, either before your

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<v Speaker 2>shower or after your shower, because you're already you know,

0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.560
<v Speaker 2>you already have your bra off, and you know you're

0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.960
<v Speaker 2>already either drying yourself or you know, in the shower

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<v Speaker 2>itself with your body wash, et cetera. So that's the

0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.600
<v Speaker 2>best time that you can do it is it's already dedicated.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like you have to make time to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're already in the bathroom showering. So that's when you

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<v Speaker 2>should be doing it at least once a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do this every wind down listener the first of

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<v Speaker 1>every month, because we're going to put ourselves first. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it toutch your babies in the shower. There

0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:50.600
<v Speaker 1>you're talking out the first of every month, and you

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<v Speaker 1>won't forget we do need to like raise our arm

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<v Speaker 1>when we're doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, absolutely, And so what you want to do is

0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.080
<v Speaker 2>it's usually at about like a right angle you want

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<v Speaker 2>to put Oh, just the best thing you can do

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<v Speaker 2>is touch the back of your head with your hand

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<v Speaker 2>right okay, to the back of your head with your hand,

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<v Speaker 2>and make sure your arm is out right. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>want it forward or you don't want it too you know,

0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.280
<v Speaker 2>it too close to your head. You want it completely

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<v Speaker 2>out and that's when you're going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>really feel it the best. And then I always say

0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:22.120
<v Speaker 2>you want to from the underarm, start in the mid

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<v Speaker 2>arm area here, like in your triceps, and then just

0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.480
<v Speaker 2>start poking and move down. And then when you really

0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.800
<v Speaker 2>get into the underarm area, you want to go in

0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:35.800
<v Speaker 2>a circular motion and really feel and then put your

0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.440
<v Speaker 2>arm down, keep your hand there and poke underneath as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and make sure you don't feel anything that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's so good. I just wish I knew more,

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<v Speaker 1>like I wish i'd I think my self doubt trumps

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<v Speaker 1>this or I'm like, I don't think I'm like I

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<v Speaker 1>am in my qualified enough to even notice a change

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 1>in my body. But I feel like most people in

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.399
<v Speaker 1>your position would say you would know it would be

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<v Speaker 1>something you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Your body best, right, Yeah, you can. You can tell

0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.800
<v Speaker 2>you just had a child, how your breasts have changed, right,

0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 2>are you? May I ask are you breastfeeding or not?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No? And you know it's tricky is because I

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't also realize that after breastfeeding, it takes a really

0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 1>long time for your breast to kind of like resume

0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.000
<v Speaker 1>like coat would be their new normal because there's still

0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.280
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of glands and things.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. Absolutely, there's all sorts of glands that have grown

0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.119
<v Speaker 2>and proliferated. Your breast tissue is very different and that

0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.640
<v Speaker 2>changes completely after you, you know, do breastfeed or your don't,

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:35.440
<v Speaker 2>or just with pregnancy itself. Right, And so that's that's

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the best example, is you know your breast the best, right,

0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.359
<v Speaker 2>there's yeah. And that's what I tell my patients is

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<v Speaker 2>if you notice anything besides doing a breast exam, you

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<v Speaker 2>come in and you say, you know what, Doc, my

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 2>nipple doesn't look right. Something is wrong, even though it

0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 2>may still be the same size or you know, same location.

0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.800
<v Speaker 2>It looks like it's you know, indented a little bit,

0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.840
<v Speaker 2>or you know, there was a little bit of your drainage,

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 2>or my nippole aiola is very itchy. Things like that.

0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Those are not things that we want you to ignore

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<v Speaker 2>and just say, oh, it must have been that I

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 2>was sweating at the gym a little too much, or

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I bought a new bra, or you know, something different

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.119
<v Speaker 2>with my lotion or whatnot. Like you definitely want to

0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.200
<v Speaker 2>let us know and give us all of these.

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Details, right, Yeah, I do appreciate how quickly my doctor moved.

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.240
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. It wasn't panicked, but it was like start

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:31.800
<v Speaker 1>under that. Yeah, doctor Barrett, Yeah, question for you, and

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:34.439
<v Speaker 1>I already know your answer, But I guess I just

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 1>would love maybe like a little more insight on this

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:40.080
<v Speaker 1>because I think the vast majority now, like kind of

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot of what we're hearing is mammograms and ultrasounds

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>are just so much radiation and this can be detrimental

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:51.680
<v Speaker 1>to people. And so what I mean, I know you're

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:55.880
<v Speaker 1>obviously a well educated degree toating doctor with a lot

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 1>of years under your belt, so I know what you

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 1>would recommend But why what could you say that would

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:05.159
<v Speaker 1>put that to rest? With the mammogram radiation, that's like

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:08.360
<v Speaker 1>this whole new information that we're just getting like pushed.

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Of course. So you know, in terms of the relative

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>risk of radiation, ultrasounds carry the least amount. So that's

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 2>what's good to know, is that really you don't have

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 2>that extreme radiation exposure like you do with let's say

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 2>an MRI, because we do recommend breast MRIs, right, and

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:27.880
<v Speaker 2>we have, of course, like you said, the scientific evidence.

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 2>We have many, many longitudinal studies that have shown someone's

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:39.119
<v Speaker 2>relative risk of cancer development based on how many MRIs

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 2>or chest X rays or ultrasounds that they get.

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Done.

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 2>What our newest technology has done, and this is where

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I really reassure my patients is you should all be

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 2>getting three D tomo mammograms. That's the newest technology that

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 2>we have, and those are the types of mammograms that

0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 2>carry the least amount of radiation risk. You know, over

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 2>the years, we change our technology, we change our radiation

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 2>exposure to our patients, because we know previously older machines

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and older techniques that we had, let's say in the seventies,

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 2>you did you had cancer that developed because we kept

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 2>putting you through scans, and patients that underwent treatments, let's say,

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 2>for example, that had cancers continued to get scans. So

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of counterintuitive that we're treating your cancer, but

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.400
<v Speaker 2>we keep putting you through scans and that increases your

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:34.679
<v Speaker 2>cancer risk, and in fact it did in the past.

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 2>So now our newest technologies are newest ways of developing

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 2>and looking at images through radiation exposure in terms of

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 2>MRIs or CAT scans, really has decreased the way the

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 2>radiation goes into your body, the way the radiation exits

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 2>your body, the way it's metabolized, and it's really focused

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 2>in that organ or that ear of the body. Before,

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:04.360
<v Speaker 2>what would happen is radiation when you were exposed during

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 2>a scan would disperse, right. That's why when you get

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 2>a chest X ray we put that cover over your

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 2>thyroid gland because we want to make sure that that

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 2>radiation from a chest X ray it's pretty dispersed. It's big,

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't expose other organs. Now we have more

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 2>specialized or more precise ways of doing these tests to

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:25.919
<v Speaker 2>minimize that.

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>So I have I had I Haventt had. I have

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>fake boobs, got them after my second kid, and then

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I had another child. I obviously didn't know I was

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>going to have another child, but I did, and he's

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:45.159
<v Speaker 1>amazing and all the things, but my boobs. I've heard

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>that it's harder to find breast cancer with implants. Is

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that true or not true?

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:56.239
<v Speaker 2>So it is in one regard in terms of you know,

0:26:56.359 --> 0:27:03.640
<v Speaker 2>developed the post, I would say implant changes to your breast.

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's where we sometimes have to use multiple imaging

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 2>techniques to look at and screen for breast cancer. It

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't just be a mammogram because what happens is in

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 2>that image, the way that those rays of radiation go

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.640
<v Speaker 2>into the implant, it can obscure the picture behind it.

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 2>So what we look for is something that what we

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:32.880
<v Speaker 2>say enhances or doesn't. And so you having breast augmentation,

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 2>we probably would recommend not just a mammogram, but we'd

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 2>be looking at an ultrasound as well as part of

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 2>your screening.

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to get an MRI, like a full body MRI.

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Just if you heard a pernuvo I have yes? Okay,

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 1>do you like or not? Like? No? Comment? Oh? Shoot,

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>oh great, I'm about to have one too, So I'm like, oh,

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>because I've just been having some weird things in the

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>brain area that I just want to like check off

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.679
<v Speaker 1>that it's not that what it is. But it's not

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 1>going to be like super Bad film.

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 2>No, No, why I said that, and being completely transparent

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 2>and honest, you know, I practice with evidence and not

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 2>by guidelines, but I need evidence if I'm going to

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 2>subject my patient to tests or subject them to medications,

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I need evidence to back it up because it's not

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.919
<v Speaker 2>benign what I'm doing to patients or recommending. So I

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 2>would say as a scientist, I don't have the evidence

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 2>to support.

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>That, right, Okay, got it is there. I feel like

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:48.479
<v Speaker 1>I've heard this too, that breast having breast augmentation is

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>does that cause to cancer? Like what's the implant in there?

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 2>That's a great, great point that you bring up, and

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 2>older implants used to there was actually a type of

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 2>limph that developed in the bread that was associated with

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 2>those implants. We don't see that anymore because our newest

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 2>implants that most plastic surgeons are using don't carry that

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 2>risk as much. So we're happy because that lymphoma that

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 2>used to develop with implants was a very aggressive lymphoma

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>and it had, you know, a pretty bad outcome. So

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 2>we're not seeing that as much anymore.

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, that's good to know. I and I know

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>that this is probably let's just go thirty thousand feet

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>when I asked this because I know that there's no

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>like recipe for this. But I'm such a I'm a

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>little crunchy if I'm honest, So I really believe in

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>all the pieces of the puzzle kind of compound interest

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and keeping someone healthy. I'm sure you would agree, But like,

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>is there like a cancer fighting if you had? How

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>about this? Let me frame it like this, since obviously

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the brain fog is real for me. Still same, if

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you could tell anyone like the most ideal perfect way

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>to eat to avoid and lower your risk of any cancer,

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>specifically breast cancer, what would that be? Okay? And what supplement?

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I love supplements.

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you're bringing that up because I'm a

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 2>big believer in I have to practice what I preach right,

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 2>because I can't be Let's be honest, I can't be

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 2>a five hundred pound physician who doesn't exercise in smokes

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'm giving health information and cancer prevention recommendations to

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 2>my patients. So for the past two and a half years,

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 2>I've become completely pescatarian, gar to the Mediterranean diet because

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 2>that has been proven to show that it reduces your

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 2>risk of cancer, aging, Alzheimer's, diabetes, cardiovascular risks. So I

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 2>mainly eat a very protein based diet with tofu and

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>fish fish that does and have a shell, lots of vegetables.

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I exercise, and it's cardio exercise about four to five

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 2>times a week a minimum of twenty to twenty five minutes,

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and that's all you need that will definitely reduce your

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 2>cancer risks. We have many studies that show that and

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 2>supplementation wise, I yes practice Western medicine, but I come

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>from an Eastern background. I'm South Asian and Indian, so

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>my family there's a lot of iro vedic and homeopathic

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>remedies that I grew up with, and so medicine was

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 2>not something from a doctor that I turned to or

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>my parents turned to at first as part of our treatment.

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 2>So there's actual good evidence in data that cur turmeric

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>it's a huge antioxidant and a benefit in reducing your

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>cance risk. So if there's any supplement you can take

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 2>on a daily basis, Anything that's turmeric or curcumin based

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 2>would be the best thing that I could recommend.

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:01.959
<v Speaker 1>How many milligrams?

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 2>So that's a good question because you know, if it's

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>dietary intake.

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Because I take a tumoric supplement every day, just like

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>from the tumoric I can never say that other word.

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but I don't know what the milligram is

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>or what it should be.

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, you know what, if you take at

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 2>least two hundred milligrams a day, it should be enough.

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 2>There are some that are out there that are a

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 2>lot more, but you know, I think the main thing

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>you want to look for is it that it has

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 2>that active ingredient of curricumen in it, because that's what's

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 2>been proven to show that antioxid in cancer fighting property.

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 2>So you definitely want to have that incorporated into part

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 2>of your daily supplements that you can date. Vitamin D

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 2>is another great supplement if you haven't started that already.

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Low levels of vitamin D are associated with increased breast

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 2>cancer risk, and if you know someone that's had breast cancer,

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>if their vitamin D levels stay low, it actually has

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 2>been shown to increase the recurrence of breast cancer as well.

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Anything citrus based, folic acid, any anything vitamin C based

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 2>also has great antioxidant in cancer fighting properties as well.

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 1>So D we need to have vitamin K with D.

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, you have calcium with vitamin D.

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I knew we needed a couple it with

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>something or it's less effective. Okay, I need a yes

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>or no on red wine for cancer health. That matters

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>to the girls on the couch.

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 2>I would say yes, as long as it's less than

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 2>six to eight ounces that you're having per serving. You know,

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 2>you definitely don't want to, you know, go crazy, but

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 2>you know it is something that's part of the Mediterranean

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>diet as well, the tannins that are in there in

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>the accident antioxidant properties, it's definitely beneficial compared to all

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 2>other types of alcohol.

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>We've really calmed down. We don't don't. That's what's the thing.

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't tell you. I mean, I probably

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>drink twice a month now, and I used to be

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>in every post my divorce, I would I would have

0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>a glass of one every day. And I think it

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>was because in our society at the time, it was like,

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>this is my mom juice, and this is my me

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>time and my relaxation, and it became such a I

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>just think every single day. And now I'm like, I

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>don't I enjoyed having an occasional you know, glass with Alan,

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>if we have a little date night at the house

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>or like we'll have a date night tonight. But I

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>mean it's maybe two three the most a month.

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Now, Yeah, And I think that's fine. And even if

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 2>there's moderate, you know, mild to moderate consumption of you know,

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 2>two times a week, that as long as it's that

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 2>small amount is totally fine. But you know, it's definitely

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 2>definitely has been shown to have a health benefits.

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Do you Okay? You said Tofu and I and I

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>don't eat meat. So I'm kind of like, I have

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>cut Tofu out altogether because it was soy and soy

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>was linked to estrogen and is that a myth? Or

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>like how do we feel about that? And you don't

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>have to go crazy. I just wonder could it would

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 1>give me such an opportunity to add that back in

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>would be really beneficial. But I have cut it out

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>because it was rumor, you.

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Know, and that's and and that's the perfect way of

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 2>putting that that it's been rumored, there's really no direct

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 2>link of let's say someone that has had hormone replacement

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 2>therapy and we actually have high levels of estrogen and

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>progesteron that those patients are exposed to. You're not exposed

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 2>to those high levels when you're consuming food that has

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:29.360
<v Speaker 2>that kind of hormone derivative like tofu. So and again,

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>everything's in moderation, right, so you're not If you're eating

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 2>tofu on a daily basis, multiple meals, that risk is

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 2>different than if it's part of your diet maybe once

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 2>or twice a week. You're having a tofu based dish.

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:45.719
<v Speaker 1>There's a crispy tofu recipe. I've been mourning, so I'm

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of excited to go back get it. To close out, Yeah, seriously, yeah,

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure because I love tofu, but I can't have

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>soy now, which is a bummer. But anyways, to kind

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:58.280
<v Speaker 1>of close out, what do you wish people knew about

0:35:58.440 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>breast cancer?

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Wow, there's so much that I wish that people knew.

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 2>But what I wish they knew was that it's preventable.

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 1>That's so hope. Giving that sentence, itself is so hope giving.

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 2>It is it is. There are certain cases, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>in any extreme with any type of cancer, that it's not,

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 2>But that prevention starts at home, and your body is

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 2>your home, and you have to treat your body like

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 2>you would treat your home, and keep it healthy and

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 2>keep it safe and keep it strong, and that prevention

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 2>starts with you.

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<v Speaker 1>That is like the best advice anyone could give anyone

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>about anything. Yeah. Absolutely, well, thank you for giving that

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 1>slice of help. So we know a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've had breast cancer in your family with

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, my mother in law actually just recently went

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:53.280
<v Speaker 1>through this, it'll be a year ago December. But early

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>detection when in for normal mammogram, she's seventy five. They

0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>found between a zero between stage zero and one. Okay,

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>And but by the time from the time she heard

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the words that it was cancer to the time she

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>was cancer free according to doctors, six weeks. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was crazy to you know, because it

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>we have heard so many stories that I think she well,

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>my high school sweetheart lost his mom to breast cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>They found it late, it spread, you know, there's it's

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 1>her lymphnodes. Is that is that correct? Yeah, and that's

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:28.760
<v Speaker 1>what ended up, you know when she it came back

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.839
<v Speaker 1>and it was just you know, and it's just it's

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>so sad and there are stories to show both. But

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 1>like you said, there is there is hope.

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 2>There is hope. We have newer treatments right now that

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, give even advanced stage breast cancer patients hope.

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 2>We're putting stage four cancer patients into remission, so we're

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 2>not going to stop fighting and we're going to continue

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.840
<v Speaker 2>to keep getting giving our patients more options.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Well, thank you so much for coming on

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:05.720
<v Speaker 1>and giving everyone that hope. Appreciate it. Thank you all right, bye, ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're listening to this in the car right now,

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to lift up your shirt, but just

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>start to give it a good old feel. And we

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 1>really need you to get your boobs like your countertops.

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was thinking. I'm like, I'm comparing my

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:19.879
<v Speaker 1>boobs to my countertop in my head right now because

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I keep that thing so damn clean and spotless, and

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I should be checking my boobs. I know,

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm as I can't have my husband because second he touches,

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>so we have to just do it ourselves, you know,

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 1>because that's a gateway. It is a gateway. It was

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 1>like the chiropractor was saying, hey, if you could just

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 1>because with my like dis bowld or whatever in my back,

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like hitting the nerves so in my butt, like

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>if you just apply pressure. So my chiropractor was like,

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>can you touch if you touch her butt right there,

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Jamison, stop it right now, because this

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 1>is just it's he doesn't massage. It's two seconds and

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>then it's like hey baby, and I'm like, get off.

0:38:56.239 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Everything's a gateway hashtag blessed. But also yeah, oh medical,

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>but we keep it a little medically focused on give

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>me five minutes off. I can't or you try that

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>like he's like stretching and your tailbone and I was like, no, no,

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you're not. I am going to go find a professional.

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, well god, now I'm scared about the pernuvo thing. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's just the radiation exposure, which

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>is what he was. I'm such a hypercontract I just

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>need I have such a power about something that I

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 1>need to just check off. So this is where I

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.319
<v Speaker 1>went with the mammogram thing, and I had to ask

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 1>him about the radiation exposure because I got to the point,

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Creamer where I was like, the stress hormones going through

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>my body, wondering, what if yes is going to be

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 1>more detrimental to me than me getting whatever amount of radiation.

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>This is to get the peace of mind that I

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>can just move forward. Yeah, agreed, okay, And I would

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>agree with that for you one hundred percent. I think

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>peace of mind. Well, you're my sweet little hypochondriac I

0:39:57.560 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 1>love which I'm like a lot of hyper contract with

0:39:59.880 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>my boobs, So now I need to start to be

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I need you to be a little more vibe contact

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 1>with your boobs. But I do think like I think

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you're just gonna feel better. You don't like them be

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>in touch, Well, that's interesting. Can we bring Alan back in?

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I think when he touches them, But I don't like

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:18.319
<v Speaker 1>my nipple being touched. Even with that one, I hate

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 1>my nipple being touched. Wow. One of the reasons my

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 1>dat brestfeed I was like, nothing, get off my nipple.

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And there is a headline for this one, get off

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>my nipple is the quote I love my babies, but yeah,

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I just know, it's just like nails on a chalkboard.

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 1>A lot of women have that, like it's not kinky

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to them. It is not fun to not touch my

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>breastfeeding is like an actual issue because they don't like

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:45.479
<v Speaker 1>get touched. Yeah. Yeah, the thought of it is giving

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 1>me the scorms. Okay, sorry about that, go get your

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if he wants to grop it, he

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.359
<v Speaker 1>can grow it and he will and he did, and

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>that's how we got room and James, everyone, thanks for

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 1>tuning in. So that's the other day. We were making

0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 1>out and he goes, that's how you were conceived. I

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know how he says, but I was like, okay, alright,

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:07.959
<v Speaker 1>it's a little lowkward older they get okay, we're done.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't fight