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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey girl, Hi, it's Fall break week. Yeah, so where

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Speaker 1: are you headed? Well? Will Will leaving today to go

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Speaker 1: to Chicago because I'm going to go do the pernuvo Okay,

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Speaker 1: because it's a full body mri scan. Oh that's right,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah. I just have had things that I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I just want a peace of mind. Yeah yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just did this with blood work and feel so much better. Good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, so very excited for that. Okay, good. And

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Speaker 1: then then we come back and we go to Florida. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we feel good about that. We do. It was so

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Speaker 1: we had to change the Florida. The sweet girl from

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Speaker 1: Airbnb message me and said, hey, I'm so sorry, but

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Speaker 1: our place got destroyed in the hurricane. And I'm like, girl,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Remember don't worry about my fall trip.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm worried about your cottage, you know,

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Speaker 1: because it was like the cutest little cottage on the beach.

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Speaker 1: I just feel terrible for uh. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: was like, is there anything that I can help with

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Speaker 1: or do? And she said no, you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's really sad. So Then I started looking around at

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Speaker 1: other places around Tampa because I'm like, what I'd like

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Speaker 1: to not be changed the flights. Then I heard that

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Speaker 1: there's another hurricane coming in in the direction. So I'm like,

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Speaker 1: all right, I just I got to reroute us and

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Speaker 1: the kids were so excited about the beach. So I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: let's just go west and so but it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: chilly west. Oh yeah, yeah. So I'm like, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: that time of the year where it starts to it's

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Speaker 1: like weird. So we're just doing now thirty A Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we have a you know, cute, little small little

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Speaker 1: condo right on the No. I don't want to see anybody, okay,

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Speaker 1: same human. Yeah, that's why I didn't even want to

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Speaker 1: say thirty A. Like I just we're going to the Panhandle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and here for people that don't know, like Nashville relocates

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Speaker 1: to yes, and I've I've only gone to thirty eight once.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not the person that's like I want to

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Speaker 1: go where everybody goes. I don't want to see anybody.

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Speaker 1: I just want my kids and us on a beach

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Speaker 1: like cost and that's it. Yeah. I love thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: It's really special because I feel like it's not a

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Speaker 1: bikini town like that strip isn't bikini towns. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: more like wear a pretty dresser, hooded sweatshirt, and it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like up our alley. I feel, yeah, a

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Speaker 1: little Michigan vibe in that way. Yes, yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. And we're gonna just spend four

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Speaker 1: nights there, which is a perfect amount of time. Great,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm looking forward to it. But Alan I

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Speaker 1: booked a a swim with the dolphins in the ocean,

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Speaker 1: and he's not excited about it Allan and I are

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Speaker 1: the same person, really, yeah, no way, even in the

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Speaker 1: little cove. No, nope, I'm not saying like in the

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Speaker 1: middle of like the ocean. Oh it doesn't matter, No,

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Speaker 1: really I would. I went to the keys and I

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Speaker 1: touched their little snouts or whatever those are called. When

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Speaker 1: I what are those called a dolphin? Their nose? I

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Speaker 1: suppose anything else that rhymes. Anyways, that was magical because

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Speaker 1: they were in their element and I was on land

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Speaker 1: in my element, and so I liked that we could

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Speaker 1: both respect our habitats and still see each other. But

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Speaker 1: I am not interested in being in the water with

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Speaker 1: them at all really like negative seven percent. Like I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to put the baby in there, but I'm

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Speaker 1: like Julie's really excited. Yeah, No, I love that. For

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Speaker 1: everybody that's excited, I'm just not that girl. Oh. I

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Speaker 1: love them. They're so sweet, aren't they. Yeah, they're also

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Speaker 1: like wildly intuitive. I mean, so the ones like horses,

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Speaker 1: why do I feel like we're just gonna get bashed

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Speaker 1: or with this? Are there though, aren't they? Like? Because

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Speaker 1: That's why there's a lot of like therapy horses. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is wild. So I learned when we were in

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Speaker 1: the Keys, we stayed at this really awesome resort kind

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Speaker 1: of place. And I know people have their own opinions

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Speaker 1: And then they also would like you could swim with them.

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Speaker 1: But the dolphins were actually retired navy dolphins because they

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Speaker 1: used to go and like they would go and check

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Speaker 1: out if there was anything that was dangerous to their

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Speaker 1: people and come back and report in their dolphin ways.

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Speaker 1: And I just think that's really spectacular. That's really sweet.

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Speaker 1: with some veterans. Yeah, we've so we've done the swim

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Speaker 1: with dolphins in Orlando when Jolie was like three, maybe,

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Speaker 1: And I get a lot of hate on that guy,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, like I am a zoogoer. I like,

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Speaker 1: side of things in their conservatory ship and yeah, helping

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Speaker 1: back animals and extinction extinctions and stuff like that, extinctions

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Speaker 1: that a lot of those places bring in animals that

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Speaker 1: be my friend. No, that's fine, that's okay, But I'm

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Speaker 1: excited you should be. And then but you guys aren't

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Speaker 1: going anywhere. No, we just did like back to back trips.

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Speaker 1: So I feel really good about your saying yeah, and

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Speaker 1: we actually so. The other half of our duo lives

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Speaker 1: made her way. So she's making her way today. She

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Speaker 1: evacuated a little earlier to try to like beat the

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Speaker 1: rush and the craziness. It's just wild times right now,

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Speaker 1: really wild emotional times. And I'm an mpath so I

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Speaker 1: feel like I need a hotline. We spent yesterday gutting

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Speaker 1: our closets and our home for things like pantry and

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Speaker 1: all the things we could send over into the Western

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Speaker 1: So they're just sad. It is. It's it's actually it's

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Speaker 1: beyond like I don't I don't think. I know. It's

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Speaker 1: like live feeds are coming in from people like boots

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Speaker 1: and obviously put to her wedding. She's like, we just

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Speaker 1: a date with me tonight? And then sent me a

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Speaker 1: reservation confirmation. That's pretty cute and you ask him to

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Speaker 1: text Preston it's really sweet. Mind's driving mine in mine? Okay,

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Speaker 1: President and I have this game on the highway. Sounds dangerous,

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Speaker 1: I know when when we're passing each other, like we

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Speaker 1: driving home and he's like, maybe I think I'm going

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Speaker 1: to Patty such a Rednecks sweet But he's not texting

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Speaker 1: me dinner reservation. So how long do you think Preston's

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Speaker 1: Have you guys had that conversation like, this is because

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Speaker 1: but love's only nine. Yeah, but I met him while

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Speaker 1: so that's a long time, so longer for him because

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Speaker 1: it just because that's who they are. The goal would

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Speaker 1: He is really excited for me to have a big career. Great, weird, amazing,

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Speaker 1: But He's like, I just really think you're good at

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Speaker 1: It's weird, foreign and great, great, yeah, good, slow and steady.

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Speaker 1: Not anytime soon, right, what do you think the future

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Speaker 1: it all the time. But it's my radio heart. You know,

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Speaker 1: You've always kind of been that way. Speaking of podcasts,

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Speaker 1: You're the spouse that always has my back. What is

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Speaker 1: it's just launched again? You're a new Season, New Season.

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Speaker 1: It's called in Kristen we Breast and Christian we Breast

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Speaker 1: This season is called Homecoming, which I've said on wind

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Speaker 1: Down before, but I did a whole season dedicated to it.

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Speaker 1: So it's about coming home to yourself. It's about taking

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Speaker 1: time to know your intuition. I think we have a

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Speaker 1: really noisy world that distracts us from listening to what

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Speaker 1: God gave us, which is discernment. I think we all

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Speaker 1: know what we need to do. Sometimes we just don't

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Speaker 1: trust ourselves, whether that's because of generational trauma or relationships

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Speaker 1: ways to get back to yourself, coming home to yourself.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think you've abandoned yourself the most? I

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Speaker 1: think so I'm a solid two on Nyagraham. I don't

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Speaker 1: know who all believes in that. I know you and

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Speaker 1: I do. You're a solid two. You're a helper. I

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Speaker 1: got to yeah, but I have to redo it. Now

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Speaker 1: I think there's definitely a lot of two in me,

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Speaker 1: but I think we're also just healthier right now with

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Speaker 1: like Aby and you know, I'm not a two to

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Speaker 2: So, actually, dense breast tissue is very, very common in

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Speaker 2: you just had a child, how your breasts have changed, right,

428
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Speaker 2: are you? May I ask are you breastfeeding or not?

429
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Speaker 1: No? No? And you know it's tricky is because I

430
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: didn't also realize that after breastfeeding, it takes a really

431
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: long time for your breast to kind of like resume

432
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: like coat would be their new normal because there's still

433
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: all sorts of glands and things.

434
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 2: Correct. Absolutely, there's all sorts of glands that have grown

435
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: and proliferated. Your breast tissue is very different and that

436
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 2: changes completely after you, you know, do breastfeed or your don't,

437
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 2: or just with pregnancy itself. Right, And so that's that's

438
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: the best example, is you know your breast the best, right,

439
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 2: there's yeah. And that's what I tell my patients is

440
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: if you notice anything besides doing a breast exam, you

441
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: come in and you say, you know what, Doc, my

442
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: nipple doesn't look right. Something is wrong, even though it

443
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: may still be the same size or you know, same location.

444
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: It looks like it's you know, indented a little bit,

445
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: or you know, there was a little bit of your drainage,

446
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: or my nippole aiola is very itchy. Things like that.

447
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: Those are not things that we want you to ignore

448
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: and just say, oh, it must have been that I

449
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: was sweating at the gym a little too much, or

450
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: I bought a new bra, or you know, something different

451
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 2: with my lotion or whatnot. Like you definitely want to

452
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: let us know and give us all of these.

453
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: Details, right, Yeah, I do appreciate how quickly my doctor moved.

454
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: That's awesome. It wasn't panicked, but it was like start

455
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: under that. Yeah, doctor Barrett, Yeah, question for you, and

456
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: I already know your answer, But I guess I just

457
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: would love maybe like a little more insight on this

458
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: because I think the vast majority now, like kind of

459
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: a lot of what we're hearing is mammograms and ultrasounds

460
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: are just so much radiation and this can be detrimental

461
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: to people. And so what I mean, I know you're

462
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: obviously a well educated degree toating doctor with a lot

463
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: of years under your belt, so I know what you

464
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: would recommend But why what could you say that would

465
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: put that to rest? With the mammogram radiation, that's like

466
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 1: this whole new information that we're just getting like pushed.

467
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: Of course. So you know, in terms of the relative

468
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: risk of radiation, ultrasounds carry the least amount. So that's

469
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: what's good to know, is that really you don't have

470
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: that extreme radiation exposure like you do with let's say

471
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: an MRI, because we do recommend breast MRIs, right, and

472
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 2: we have, of course, like you said, the scientific evidence.

473
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: We have many, many longitudinal studies that have shown someone's

474
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: relative risk of cancer development based on how many MRIs

475
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: or chest X rays or ultrasounds that they get.

476
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: Done.

477
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: What our newest technology has done, and this is where

478
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: I really reassure my patients is you should all be

479
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: getting three D tomo mammograms. That's the newest technology that

480
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: we have, and those are the types of mammograms that

481
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: carry the least amount of radiation risk. You know, over

482
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: the years, we change our technology, we change our radiation

483
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: exposure to our patients, because we know previously older machines

484
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: and older techniques that we had, let's say in the seventies,

485
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: you did you had cancer that developed because we kept

486
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: putting you through scans, and patients that underwent treatments, let's say,

487
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: for example, that had cancers continued to get scans. So

488
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: it's kind of counterintuitive that we're treating your cancer, but

489
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: we keep putting you through scans and that increases your

490
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 2: cancer risk, and in fact it did in the past.

491
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 2: So now our newest technologies are newest ways of developing

492
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: and looking at images through radiation exposure in terms of

493
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: MRIs or CAT scans, really has decreased the way the

494
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: radiation goes into your body, the way the radiation exits

495
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: your body, the way it's metabolized, and it's really focused

496
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: in that organ or that ear of the body. Before,

497
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 2: what would happen is radiation when you were exposed during

498
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: a scan would disperse, right. That's why when you get

499
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: a chest X ray we put that cover over your

500
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: thyroid gland because we want to make sure that that

501
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: radiation from a chest X ray it's pretty dispersed. It's big,

502
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: so it doesn't expose other organs. Now we have more

503
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: specialized or more precise ways of doing these tests to

504
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 2: minimize that.

505
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Speaker 1: So I have I had I Haventt had. I have

506
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: fake boobs, got them after my second kid, and then

507
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: I had another child. I obviously didn't know I was

508
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: going to have another child, but I did, and he's

509
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: amazing and all the things, but my boobs. I've heard

510
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: that it's harder to find breast cancer with implants. Is

511
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: that true or not true?

512
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 2: So it is in one regard in terms of you know,

513
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 2: developed the post, I would say implant changes to your breast.

514
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: And that's where we sometimes have to use multiple imaging

515
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: techniques to look at and screen for breast cancer. It

516
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't just be a mammogram because what happens is in

517
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: that image, the way that those rays of radiation go

518
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: into the implant, it can obscure the picture behind it.

519
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: So what we look for is something that what we

520
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: say enhances or doesn't. And so you having breast augmentation,

521
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: we probably would recommend not just a mammogram, but we'd

522
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: be looking at an ultrasound as well as part of

523
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 2: your screening.

524
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm about to get an MRI, like a full body MRI.

525
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: Just if you heard a pernuvo I have yes? Okay,

526
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: do you like or not? Like? No? Comment? Oh? Shoot,

527
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: oh great, I'm about to have one too, So I'm like, oh,

528
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: because I've just been having some weird things in the

529
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: brain area that I just want to like check off

530
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: that it's not that what it is. But it's not

531
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: going to be like super Bad film.

532
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: No, No, why I said that, and being completely transparent

533
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: and honest, you know, I practice with evidence and not

534
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: by guidelines, but I need evidence if I'm going to

535
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: subject my patient to tests or subject them to medications,

536
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: I need evidence to back it up because it's not

537
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: benign what I'm doing to patients or recommending. So I

538
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: would say as a scientist, I don't have the evidence

539
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: to support.

540
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: That, right, Okay, got it is there. I feel like

541
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 1: I've heard this too, that breast having breast augmentation is

542
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: does that cause to cancer? Like what's the implant in there?

543
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: That's a great, great point that you bring up, and

544
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: older implants used to there was actually a type of

545
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: limph that developed in the bread that was associated with

546
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: those implants. We don't see that anymore because our newest

547
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: implants that most plastic surgeons are using don't carry that

548
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: risk as much. So we're happy because that lymphoma that

549
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: used to develop with implants was a very aggressive lymphoma

550
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: and it had, you know, a pretty bad outcome. So

551
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: we're not seeing that as much anymore.

552
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's good to know. I and I know

553
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: that this is probably let's just go thirty thousand feet

554
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: when I asked this because I know that there's no

555
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: like recipe for this. But I'm such a I'm a

556
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: little crunchy if I'm honest, So I really believe in

557
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: all the pieces of the puzzle kind of compound interest

558
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: and keeping someone healthy. I'm sure you would agree, But like,

559
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: is there like a cancer fighting if you had? How

560
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: about this? Let me frame it like this, since obviously

561
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: the brain fog is real for me. Still same, if

562
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: you could tell anyone like the most ideal perfect way

563
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: to eat to avoid and lower your risk of any cancer,

564
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: specifically breast cancer, what would that be? Okay? And what supplement?

565
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: I love supplements.

566
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you're bringing that up because I'm a

567
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: big believer in I have to practice what I preach right,

568
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: because I can't be Let's be honest, I can't be

569
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: a five hundred pound physician who doesn't exercise in smokes

570
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: and I'm giving health information and cancer prevention recommendations to

571
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: my patients. So for the past two and a half years,

572
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: I've become completely pescatarian, gar to the Mediterranean diet because

573
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: that has been proven to show that it reduces your

574
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: risk of cancer, aging, Alzheimer's, diabetes, cardiovascular risks. So I

575
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: mainly eat a very protein based diet with tofu and

576
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: fish fish that does and have a shell, lots of vegetables.

577
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: I exercise, and it's cardio exercise about four to five

578
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: times a week a minimum of twenty to twenty five minutes,

579
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: and that's all you need that will definitely reduce your

580
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: cancer risks. We have many studies that show that and

581
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: supplementation wise, I yes practice Western medicine, but I come

582
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: from an Eastern background. I'm South Asian and Indian, so

583
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: my family there's a lot of iro vedic and homeopathic

584
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: remedies that I grew up with, and so medicine was

585
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: not something from a doctor that I turned to or

586
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: my parents turned to at first as part of our treatment.

587
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: So there's actual good evidence in data that cur turmeric

588
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: it's a huge antioxidant and a benefit in reducing your

589
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: cance risk. So if there's any supplement you can take

590
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: on a daily basis, Anything that's turmeric or curcumin based

591
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: would be the best thing that I could recommend.

592
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 1: How many milligrams?

593
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: So that's a good question because you know, if it's

594
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: dietary intake.

595
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: Because I take a tumoric supplement every day, just like

596
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: from the tumoric I can never say that other word.

597
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I don't know what the milligram is

598
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: or what it should be.

599
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know what, if you take at

600
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: least two hundred milligrams a day, it should be enough.

601
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: There are some that are out there that are a

602
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: lot more, but you know, I think the main thing

603
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: you want to look for is it that it has

604
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: that active ingredient of curricumen in it, because that's what's

605
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: been proven to show that antioxid in cancer fighting property.

606
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: So you definitely want to have that incorporated into part

607
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: of your daily supplements that you can date. Vitamin D

608
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: is another great supplement if you haven't started that already.

609
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: Low levels of vitamin D are associated with increased breast

610
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: cancer risk, and if you know someone that's had breast cancer,

611
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: if their vitamin D levels stay low, it actually has

612
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: been shown to increase the recurrence of breast cancer as well.

613
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: Anything citrus based, folic acid, any anything vitamin C based

614
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: also has great antioxidant in cancer fighting properties as well.

615
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: So D we need to have vitamin K with D.

616
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: Right, you have calcium with vitamin D.

617
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I knew we needed a couple it with

618
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: something or it's less effective. Okay, I need a yes

619
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: or no on red wine for cancer health. That matters

620
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: to the girls on the couch.

621
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: I would say yes, as long as it's less than

622
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: six to eight ounces that you're having per serving. You know,

623
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: you definitely don't want to, you know, go crazy, but

624
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: you know it is something that's part of the Mediterranean

625
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: diet as well, the tannins that are in there in

626
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: the accident antioxidant properties, it's definitely beneficial compared to all

627
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: other types of alcohol.

628
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: We've really calmed down. We don't don't. That's what's the thing.

629
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't tell you. I mean, I probably

630
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: drink twice a month now, and I used to be

631
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: in every post my divorce, I would I would have

632
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: a glass of one every day. And I think it

633
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: was because in our society at the time, it was like,

634
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: this is my mom juice, and this is my me

635
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: time and my relaxation, and it became such a I

636
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: just think every single day. And now I'm like, I

637
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: don't I enjoyed having an occasional you know, glass with Alan,

638
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: if we have a little date night at the house

639
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: or like we'll have a date night tonight. But I

640
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: mean it's maybe two three the most a month.

641
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, And I think that's fine. And even if

642
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: there's moderate, you know, mild to moderate consumption of you know,

643
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Speaker 2: two times a week, that as long as it's that

644
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: small amount is totally fine. But you know, it's definitely

645
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: definitely has been shown to have a health benefits.

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Speaker 1: Do you Okay? You said Tofu and I and I

647
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: don't eat meat. So I'm kind of like, I have

648
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: cut Tofu out altogether because it was soy and soy

649
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Speaker 1: was linked to estrogen and is that a myth? Or

650
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Speaker 1: like how do we feel about that? And you don't

651
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: have to go crazy. I just wonder could it would

652
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: give me such an opportunity to add that back in

653
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: would be really beneficial. But I have cut it out

654
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Speaker 1: because it was rumor, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, and that's and and that's the perfect way of

656
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: putting that that it's been rumored, there's really no direct

657
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Speaker 2: link of let's say someone that has had hormone replacement

658
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: therapy and we actually have high levels of estrogen and

659
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Speaker 2: progesteron that those patients are exposed to. You're not exposed

660
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Speaker 2: to those high levels when you're consuming food that has

661
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Speaker 2: that kind of hormone derivative like tofu. So and again,

662
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: everything's in moderation, right, so you're not If you're eating

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Speaker 2: tofu on a daily basis, multiple meals, that risk is

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Speaker 2: different than if it's part of your diet maybe once

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Speaker 2: or twice a week. You're having a tofu based dish.

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Speaker 1: There's a crispy tofu recipe. I've been mourning, so I'm

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00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: kind of excited to go back get it. To close out, Yeah, seriously, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure because I love tofu, but I can't have

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Speaker 1: soy now, which is a bummer. But anyways, to kind

670
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Speaker 1: of close out, what do you wish people knew about

671
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: breast cancer?

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00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: Oh? Wow, there's so much that I wish that people knew.

673
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: But what I wish they knew was that it's preventable.

674
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Speaker 1: That's so hope. Giving that sentence, itself is so hope giving.

675
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: It is it is. There are certain cases, of course,

676
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: in any extreme with any type of cancer, that it's not,

677
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: But that prevention starts at home, and your body is

678
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: your home, and you have to treat your body like

679
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: you would treat your home, and keep it healthy and

680
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: keep it safe and keep it strong, and that prevention

681
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: starts with you.

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Speaker 1: That is like the best advice anyone could give anyone

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Speaker 1: about anything. Yeah. Absolutely, well, thank you for giving that

684
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: slice of help. So we know a lot of people,

685
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Speaker 1: I mean, you've had breast cancer in your family with

686
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Speaker 1: you know, my mother in law actually just recently went

687
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: through this, it'll be a year ago December. But early

688
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: detection when in for normal mammogram, she's seventy five. They

689
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: found between a zero between stage zero and one. Okay,

690
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Speaker 1: And but by the time from the time she heard

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Speaker 1: the words that it was cancer to the time she

692
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: was cancer free according to doctors, six weeks. Yeah, and

693
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Speaker 1: you know, it was crazy to you know, because it

694
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Speaker 1: we have heard so many stories that I think she well,

695
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: my high school sweetheart lost his mom to breast cancer.

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00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: They found it late, it spread, you know, there's it's

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00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: her lymphnodes. Is that is that correct? Yeah, and that's

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00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: what ended up, you know when she it came back

699
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: and it was just you know, and it's just it's

700
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: so sad and there are stories to show both. But

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00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: like you said, there is there is hope.

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00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: There is hope. We have newer treatments right now that

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00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: you know, give even advanced stage breast cancer patients hope.

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00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: We're putting stage four cancer patients into remission, so we're

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00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: not going to stop fighting and we're going to continue

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00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: to keep getting giving our patients more options.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Well, thank you so much for coming on

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00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: and giving everyone that hope. Appreciate it. Thank you all right, bye, ladies.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to this in the car right now,

710
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: you don't have to lift up your shirt, but just

711
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: start to give it a good old feel. And we

712
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: really need you to get your boobs like your countertops.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. I'm like, I'm comparing my

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00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: boobs to my countertop in my head right now because

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00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: I keep that thing so damn clean and spotless, and

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00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I should be checking my boobs. I know,

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00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm as I can't have my husband because second he touches,

718
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: so we have to just do it ourselves, you know,

719
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: because that's a gateway. It is a gateway. It was

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00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: like the chiropractor was saying, hey, if you could just

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Speaker 1: because with my like dis bowld or whatever in my back,

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00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: it's like hitting the nerves so in my butt, like

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00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: if you just apply pressure. So my chiropractor was like,

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Speaker 1: can you touch if you touch her butt right there,

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00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: I was like, Jamison, stop it right now, because this

726
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: is just it's he doesn't massage. It's two seconds and

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00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: then it's like hey baby, and I'm like, get off.

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00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: Everything's a gateway hashtag blessed. But also yeah, oh medical,

729
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: but we keep it a little medically focused on give

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00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: me five minutes off. I can't or you try that

731
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: like he's like stretching and your tailbone and I was like, no, no,

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00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: you're not. I am going to go find a professional.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, well god, now I'm scared about the pernuvo thing. No,

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's just the radiation exposure, which

735
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: is what he was. I'm such a hypercontract I just

736
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: need I have such a power about something that I

737
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: need to just check off. So this is where I

738
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Speaker 1: went with the mammogram thing, and I had to ask

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Speaker 1: him about the radiation exposure because I got to the point,

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Speaker 1: Creamer where I was like, the stress hormones going through

741
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: my body, wondering, what if yes is going to be

742
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: more detrimental to me than me getting whatever amount of radiation.

743
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: This is to get the peace of mind that I

744
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: can just move forward. Yeah, agreed, okay, And I would

745
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: agree with that for you one hundred percent. I think

746
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Speaker 1: peace of mind. Well, you're my sweet little hypochondriac I

747
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: love which I'm like a lot of hyper contract with

748
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: my boobs, So now I need to start to be

749
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Speaker 1: I need you to be a little more vibe contact

750
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: with your boobs. But I do think like I think

751
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: you're just gonna feel better. You don't like them be

752
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: in touch, Well, that's interesting. Can we bring Alan back in?

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00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: I think when he touches them, But I don't like

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00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: my nipple being touched. Even with that one, I hate

755
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: my nipple being touched. Wow. One of the reasons my

756
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: dat brestfeed I was like, nothing, get off my nipple.

757
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: And there is a headline for this one, get off

758
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: my nipple is the quote I love my babies, but yeah,

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00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: I just know, it's just like nails on a chalkboard.

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00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: A lot of women have that, like it's not kinky

761
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: to them. It is not fun to not touch my

762
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: breastfeeding is like an actual issue because they don't like

763
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,479
Speaker 1: get touched. Yeah. Yeah, the thought of it is giving

764
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: me the scorms. Okay, sorry about that, go get your

765
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: But I mean, if he wants to grop it, he

766
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: can grow it and he will and he did, and

767
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: that's how we got room and James, everyone, thanks for

768
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: tuning in. So that's the other day. We were making

769
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Speaker 1: out and he goes, that's how you were conceived. I

770
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: don't know how he says, but I was like, okay, alright,

771
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 1: it's a little lowkward older they get okay, we're done.

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Speaker 1: I really don't fight