Speaker 1: Welcome back all the smoke, Las Vegas Summerleague twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: coming to you from the Blue Wires Studio here at
Speaker 1: the Beautiful Wind Hotel. You got a special guest today,
Speaker 1: Jack hey Man, you've been trying to get more women
Speaker 1: on the show, she volunteered, happy to have her queen's
Speaker 1: fresh off of WNBA Championship, fresh off of marriage, fresh
Speaker 1: off another All Star nomination. Welcome to the show, Kelsey Pluck.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, man, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, as I mentioned all the stuff that's happened
Speaker 1: in this last year, like how's life, what's going on? Man?
Speaker 3: God is good. Yes, I feel so blessed.
Speaker 2: I feel you know, for a while, I think when
Speaker 2: I became a pro, it was really hard for me,
Speaker 2: you know, to kind of like go from college and
Speaker 2: have so much success to then get to be in
Speaker 2: a pro and like you think you're going to continue
Speaker 2: that momentum, you don't. But I realized like growth is
Speaker 2: in linear, you know what I mean, Like we go
Speaker 2: in phases up and down, and so I feel like
Speaker 2: now I'm at a spot where I have my tribe
Speaker 2: and uh just consistent in what I do and how
Speaker 2: I approach my craft and you know, starting to branch
Speaker 2: out side of basketball and do other things. But but yeah,
Speaker 2: like I said, I can't say that enough.
Speaker 3: Like God is good.
Speaker 1: So I heard a little room or I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's true. Obviously you married Darren Waller, who is
Speaker 1: now a jet correct giants giant, don't make that mistake.
Speaker 1: That's really apologies. He better offer a jet than a
Speaker 1: giant in my eyes. I'm a cowboy fan, so.
Speaker 3: We're coming for you this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta come for them. Cowboys are always weak.
Speaker 1: But I heard my bad. I heard a rumor that
Speaker 1: you guys met here. Did you guys needed the Blue
Speaker 1: Rin suicide?
Speaker 2: Just?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did.
Speaker 2: You know what's so funny was that's how we first
Speaker 2: had our first real conversation. Was I was on his
Speaker 2: podcast and we were just we were chopping it up.
Speaker 2: I was pretending to pay attention to the other co host,
Speaker 2: but I was locked in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he invited you on his podcast.
Speaker 3: He did, said he was doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably why we keep waving off our show? Was it?
Speaker 1: Tell I think that's dope, So tell me about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, did you guys know each other before? That's
Speaker 1: kind of the first time you met you maybe obviously
Speaker 1: because you guys played in the same city.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so you know what's so funny, there was
Speaker 2: actually a fake blog that's what we were dating. And
Speaker 2: I was laughing because like, for me, I never dated
Speaker 2: a professional athlete, nor did I want to one. I
Speaker 2: think that, like, just being honest, I think we're some
Speaker 2: of the most narcissistic, egotistical people that we have to be.
Speaker 1: I am for sure, Amen.
Speaker 3: And self awareness, you know, now he's half the battle.
Speaker 2: But for me, like I'm like, man, I'm actively trying
Speaker 2: to work on not being like that, so not trying
Speaker 2: to stereotype all athletes. But you know, he asked me
Speaker 2: to be on his podcast a couple of times and
Speaker 2: I just said no, and he wore me down and
Speaker 2: then we had a conversation.
Speaker 3: It was very vulnerable.
Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about mental health, suicide.
Speaker 1: He has such an amazing story he does. I've been
Speaker 1: trying to get him on here for a minute. We've
Speaker 1: been playing phone tag on the on the d MS.
Speaker 1: But you're a great story for him too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's awesome, that's really cool.
Speaker 1: Congratulations in the midst of the season, you guys had
Speaker 1: some key pickups this season. You guys are picking up
Speaker 1: where you left off. Need it, Yeah, beating the out
Speaker 1: of hereybody. Chelsea Gray, your backcourt mate, one of the
Speaker 1: best guards in the game.
Speaker 2: Speak to her point, God, yeah, Chelsea's a I think
Speaker 2: the way Chelsea plays is disrespectful. I should be she
Speaker 2: plays disrespectful. Some of the passes either even don't go
Speaker 2: through that she attempts.
Speaker 3: She's just like the audacity, the audacity.
Speaker 2: You know, she tried to throw one pass behind somebody's
Speaker 2: head last night in LA and it got tipped. But
Speaker 2: like if it maybe two inches different would have been
Speaker 2: a lab But again, there's another competitor. And I think
Speaker 2: that Chelsea, Like, I mean, she's having career highs in
Speaker 2: all different categories. She came back fifteen pounds later. She's
Speaker 2: a ball of muscle right now, she's shooting forty five
Speaker 2: percent from three. Like everyone on our team has really
Speaker 2: decided to up to Annie. And you guys know, like
Speaker 2: when you're playing every season, when people come back better,
Speaker 2: it's like you earn a level of respect.
Speaker 1: Really, let's talk to Asia Wilson, who was named as
Speaker 1: female or excuse me, WNBA Player of the year last
Speaker 1: night that specea and for some reason she didn't get
Speaker 1: female athlete, which is crazy, crazy, But she's someone to me,
Speaker 1: I mean and obviously being a fan, I mean, she's
Speaker 1: you'll be the best player in the game, yep, but
Speaker 1: to me, still doesn't get to just do she deserves?
Speaker 1: Do you happen to know why? Man?
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's so interesting because I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I sit back and I watch just a body of work, right,
Speaker 2: and we talk about accolades, we talk about you know,
Speaker 2: some people weigh it on accolades, some people weigh it
Speaker 2: on statistics, some people weigh it on you know, big games,
Speaker 2: big moments.
Speaker 3: I mean, you name it. She's done, Like, I don't
Speaker 3: know what else she could have done.
Speaker 2: How do you win MVP Defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 2: a World championship, a USA Basketball World Championship, and then
Speaker 2: win MVP of the World Championships.
Speaker 3: At USA Basketball?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the best players on the best team
Speaker 2: and you win the MVP there, Right, it's like a
Speaker 2: clean sweep. I can't remember the last player that's done that.
Speaker 2: And you're right, I mean, she gets shortened, she gets
Speaker 2: shorted all the time, and it's and it's amazing because
Speaker 2: she handles it with grace. You know, she just keeps
Speaker 2: steady in who she is as a human being. And
Speaker 2: I think, to me, like my respect just grows tremendously,
Speaker 2: and people around the league like she's just someone that
Speaker 2: carries a lot of weight in her voice because of
Speaker 2: how she carries herself.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I love her because she speaks on mine and
Speaker 4: she marts her to beat her own drumm.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't like that.
Speaker 4: You don't follow suitors what everybody else doing when you
Speaker 4: do your own thing. It's always a problem with people.
Speaker 4: But like you say, she's doing everything she needs to
Speaker 4: do to get the recognition that she deserved, but she's
Speaker 4: still not getting it. But the fact that she still
Speaker 4: doing her job and not really worrying about not speaking
Speaker 4: on it, that says a lot about it.
Speaker 1: Moving on, Becky Hammond, a great player in herself for mcconnor.
Speaker 4: Was just named the whole w NBA Hall of Fame
Speaker 4: on their team.
Speaker 1: Bro. Shit, I mean that's I mean you know that
Speaker 1: this is they got a squad, bro, we got a squad.
Speaker 1: Becky all her championship experience before she was named your
Speaker 1: coach ever talks to her actually coaching in the NBA,
Speaker 1: she decided to come coach. You guys, how's it been
Speaker 1: working with her?
Speaker 2: Becky is tremendous and I always like say, it's only
Speaker 2: a matter of time before we lose her, like in
Speaker 2: the best way, because she's on that track. You know,
Speaker 2: it's a matter of time before. And it's not about
Speaker 2: to me. It's not about female or male coaches. It's
Speaker 2: just about coach coach and what you bring to that team.
Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all watch our playoff run last year,
Speaker 2: but we had some close games and those x'es and
Speaker 2: o's and how we executed Becky.
Speaker 3: Hammon being around Pop, being around Pop.
Speaker 2: And Becky has this ability to be able to have
Speaker 2: a really good feel for what each player needs. And
Speaker 2: I think that's super important because as a player like Matt,
Speaker 2: maybe she needs to talk to you differently she talks
Speaker 2: to me, maybe she needs to coach you differently, and
Speaker 2: those buttons exactly. And I think a lot of coaches
Speaker 2: sometimes cast a wide net, and Becky's able to pull little.
Speaker 3: Things out in different people. She's incredible.
Speaker 1: I had that obviously with Phil Jackson with the teams
Speaker 1: we had in his ability to push Ron's buttons, to
Speaker 1: push Kobe's buttons, to push power buttons, all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, and the magic Johnson told me one time,
Speaker 1: he's like a sign of a great leaders I understanding
Speaker 1: you can't talk to everybody the same way, right, and
Speaker 1: like you said, understanding how to address other people is
Speaker 1: what gets the most out of them. And then she's
Speaker 1: a player.
Speaker 4: She played the game, so the ben that's a hell
Speaker 4: of a benefit to have a coach that actually played
Speaker 4: the game. Yeah, she knows, she's seen everything.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she hates practice. I mean, this is a player.
Speaker 2: You know she don't you know she she'll get going,
Speaker 2: like in shooting drills. Sometimes if we're talking enough trash,
Speaker 2: she'll get in some. But she always is my shoulder,
Speaker 2: you know. It's always something You see that ship.
Speaker 3: One day you might be laughing.
Speaker 1: Now. I just got the I just got the goddamn
Speaker 1: adult league with my twins who were fourteen. In the
Speaker 1: first game, this dude was taking his job too serious,
Speaker 1: trying to fuck with me and try to box me
Speaker 1: out and made me twist money. I wanted to whoop
Speaker 1: his motherfucking ass. But speak to your upbringing out that way.
Speaker 2: I was born in Poway, California. I went to school
Speaker 2: in La Joya. Okay, that's what we played good basketball
Speaker 2: out there. I have a big family. We all play sports.
Speaker 2: Everyone played Division one college athletics. I'm the only person
Speaker 2: that plays basketball. Everyone else in my family played volleyball
Speaker 2: and my dad and my brother played football. So I
Speaker 2: grew up in a volleyball family, but again very competitive.
Speaker 3: My dad brought me to basketball when I was about ten.
Speaker 2: He used to take me to play pick up and
Speaker 2: he would say, hey, listen, like blocker, shot, steal.
Speaker 3: The ball, treat her like a dude, like.
Speaker 2: And plumb if he would call me plumb when we
Speaker 2: got there, but like he'd be like plumber, Like if
Speaker 2: you don't hit shots, like we're not winning. So like,
Speaker 2: and you know how it isn't pick up. If you lose,
Speaker 2: you got to sit for a minute for a minute,
Speaker 2: and so it's kind of you just have to get
Speaker 2: in where you fit in. And I walked home a lot.
Speaker 2: He thought he was Kobe at the end of the
Speaker 2: shot clock a lot of times.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we would get into it because I'm like Dad,
Speaker 3: I'm opening he like plumber. I had it.
Speaker 2: I had it, but no, it was a great, great
Speaker 2: great memories.
Speaker 1: What made you dedicate just after basketball the sports?
Speaker 2: To be honest, I just when I picked it up,
Speaker 2: I loved it. I mean, you guys know, it's like
Speaker 2: it's unlike anything else in this world. And uh, I
Speaker 2: just love to compete. I love the physicality of it.
Speaker 2: I loved just like the trash talk. I love how
Speaker 2: you can impact the game on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2: And I just love the camaraderie with my teammates. So
Speaker 2: ever since then, I mean, I've been in love with it,
Speaker 2: and I still am.
Speaker 1: Diana Tarazzi. Yeah, when you hear her name, that's the
Speaker 1: first thing you think of.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm smiling because we played the other day.
Speaker 2: I Mean, she's great, but she's an asshole.
Speaker 1: Man. I love. That's what I love about it. That's
Speaker 1: what I love about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she she's so funny in the game. Uh, I
Speaker 2: got an O board and I see her, so I
Speaker 2: backed it out a little bit and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm ana blow ripe about her old ass, and I go,
Speaker 2: I go, I go by and she she just took
Speaker 2: me out like flagrant fast.
Speaker 1: She read your She's like, I'm having this young girl
Speaker 1: come here and try to embarrassment. Put your ass on
Speaker 1: the ground.
Speaker 2: What do you mean I was laying on my back
Speaker 2: for like ten seconds.
Speaker 3: She's laughing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, DT, one of the greatest all time. I
Speaker 2: love her swagger and her unapologetic demeanor.
Speaker 1: You know you've been playing a long time too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But she hear twenty it's nineteen because someone looked that up.
Speaker 1: I know, she said. She's pushing. Yeah, she's coming up
Speaker 1: on this hell of an accomplishment. Colleges, what made you
Speaker 1: speak choose Washington? You had a couple of colleges in
Speaker 1: mind besides that school I got paid. I'm kidding, She's
Speaker 1: really not.
Speaker 2: But yesterday before nil Man, I wanted to do something different.
Speaker 2: You know, in basketball and women's basketball, it's a little
Speaker 2: bit more diverse now, but when I was in school,
Speaker 2: it was Connecticut, Tennessee, Stanford, and you kind of go
Speaker 2: If you're a West coaster, you kind of go to Stanford,
Speaker 2: if you're East coaster, you go to Connecticut, and if
Speaker 2: you're more sol you go to Tesse. And I just said,
Speaker 2: you know what, like, I don't want to join them,
Speaker 2: I want to beat them, or at least I want
Speaker 2: to try, and so kind of felt like Washington was
Speaker 2: a great fit for me and coach really believed in me,
Speaker 2: which is I think a big part of the battle,
Speaker 2: you know, as a player, when a coach really buys
Speaker 2: into what you do, makes a big difference. And went
Speaker 2: to Washington and went to the final four, So it
Speaker 2: was it was a great run for us.
Speaker 4: When you leave college and start playing in the WNBA,
Speaker 4: do you remember the records you broke?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: All that goes away, right, all that goes away.
Speaker 2: I encourage I encourage players now that play. I'm like,
Speaker 2: when period the end, everything else comes, and everything else comes,
Speaker 2: all those scoring titles and dude, they don't mean anything
Speaker 2: when that's fun.
Speaker 4: You've been a big advocate and speaking on mental health
Speaker 4: and things of that such.
Speaker 1: Why is that so important to you?
Speaker 3: And it's important because it's all of us.
Speaker 1: We deal with it in some certain ways.
Speaker 2: Every single one of us is going through something and
Speaker 2: it's on a day to day basis, you know.
Speaker 3: And I feel like for me.
Speaker 2: When I was going through it, I didn't really have
Speaker 2: anyone to talk to about it, and it wasn't something
Speaker 2: that was super like prominent in my family. We didn't
Speaker 2: really speak about that. And then even like I didn't
Speaker 2: have a lot of resources of like whom I like
Speaker 2: going to share some of these vulnerable feelings and thoughts.
Speaker 1: It's hard for us, especially in people in our position,
Speaker 1: to kind of share our lives because we are public figures.
Speaker 1: And even before we're a public figure, it's just not
Speaker 1: comfortable enough to share. But once you can get a
Speaker 1: certain status, it's even tougher to share.
Speaker 2: I mean exactly, And so I think I kept it
Speaker 2: to myself and then I mean I just imploded. So
Speaker 2: I now I definitely I'm like, I've giving all my number, like, YO,
Speaker 2: you need me, hit me whatever, like or maybe I
Speaker 2: can put you in touch with someone that can. And
Speaker 2: so I think it's important. I feel like God really
Speaker 2: brought me through that journey to have more empathy and
Speaker 2: compassion for people going through it.
Speaker 1: You never know what somebody's going through. The number one
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty seventeen draft, the first time ever
Speaker 1: that college two kids from the same college with the
Speaker 1: number one picks in their respective drafts. What was that
Speaker 1: process like leading up? Obviously, Markel folks went to the sixers,
Speaker 1: you went to the San Antonio Stars. Was there a
Speaker 1: lot of hype around that before the process or why
Speaker 1: the process was happening?
Speaker 3: There was.
Speaker 2: I definitely remember in Seattle it kind of building because
Speaker 2: both of us didn't start number one at the beginning
Speaker 2: of the year. We kind of like worked our way
Speaker 2: up as the season went along. But I remember one
Speaker 2: of my favorite memories is he got drafted or excuse me,
Speaker 2: he decided to go pro and he called me the
Speaker 2: next day and he said, where are you at? And
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm just at the crib whatever, and
Speaker 2: He's like, come outside. He pulled them outside. What did
Speaker 2: you wagon?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm out of here?
Speaker 2: And I was hype for but I mean, I couldn't
Speaker 2: afforded you wagon. But no, it was awesome. We were
Speaker 2: driving around because it's just like as kids, you work
Speaker 2: your whole lives for that, you get like that dream
Speaker 2: and it finally is coming true. It was really special
Speaker 2: to share that with him.
Speaker 1: And it's been unfortunate too because he has so much game,
Speaker 1: and I think them obviously try to change his shot
Speaker 1: and the surgery and everything. But I mean, he had
Speaker 1: and he's a good dude too, but he had a
Speaker 1: lot of game. I'm hoping he's able to. He's kind
Speaker 1: of found his it's funny in Orlando, but it's take
Speaker 1: him a little while, but he's got a lot of game.
Speaker 1: Good kid, You're welcome to the w NBA.
Speaker 2: Moment, Cappy pondexter, I was guarding her and I'm sure
Speaker 2: this wasn't the first play, or maybe it was, but
Speaker 2: first possession of the game, ISO on the elbow against me,
Speaker 2: hit in my face. Next possession, same play, next possession,
Speaker 2: step back, same play.
Speaker 3: I got subbed out, didn't play. The rest of the
Speaker 3: half was fucked up up.
Speaker 1: That's a great welcome. Welcome, motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're We're done.
Speaker 1: Welcome. That's dope. Who are some of the vets you
Speaker 1: leaned on early in your career.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I didn't have a ton of vets.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a ton of vets. And that's how
Speaker 2: I feel now, Like even doing uh the campus offseason,
Speaker 2: it's called we called it dog class, but it was
Speaker 2: under armour, just trying to bridge the gap from college
Speaker 2: to pro because I learned a lot in those years,
Speaker 2: but I learned because I failed, and like fortunately I
Speaker 2: was in the position where I was allowed to fail
Speaker 2: enough to find my footing. But most women don't have
Speaker 2: that position, right, So I'm like, man like, if we
Speaker 2: can figure out a way to give some of that
Speaker 2: insight earlier, it can really save some people. So to
Speaker 2: answer your question, I didn't have a ton of vets.
Speaker 1: Interesting because we just tested that all the time on
Speaker 1: the NBA side when we first come in. We came,
Speaker 1: he came in late nineties. I came in early two thousands.
Speaker 1: But there were guys that were thirty six, thirty seven,
Speaker 1: thirty eight, and where they get contributed on the floor
Speaker 1: or not. They contributed so much in the locker room
Speaker 1: and on the road and just kind of putting their
Speaker 1: arm around you and helping with those pitfalls. And it
Speaker 1: seems like both leagues now are just younger and younger.
Speaker 1: So it's the young leading the young, and like you said,
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be able to make the mistakes because
Speaker 1: a lot of other people aren't afforded those opportunities to
Speaker 1: continue to kind of let me find my way, right.
Speaker 1: So interesting, toughest match up early on, or or one
Speaker 1: match if you really looked forward to once you got there.
Speaker 2: It's a league. The thing about the w is like
Speaker 2: everyone's good. Even now when we play it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: I think this stretch we played like we played Seattle,
Speaker 2: so I was guarding Jewel. In the next game, I
Speaker 2: was Garden Rique, and then the next game Garden Jordan, Canada.
Speaker 2: I mean, like everyone's good. Every night, there's no like, oh.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm chilling today.
Speaker 2: I mean, everyone talks about our super team or whatever,
Speaker 2: but like, man, we're out there, We're out there competing.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 1: What kind of target. Obviously, you win a championship, so
Speaker 1: be able to back to back that it's tough. Every
Speaker 1: single night. It's the other team's biggest game. You know,
Speaker 1: they can be not even in contention, but beating you
Speaker 1: guys is like we got them. They're not that good
Speaker 1: or whatever the situation may be. So what is that
Speaker 1: like every single night going on the road. Obviously at home,
Speaker 1: it's different going on the road knowing how big this
Speaker 1: game is for the other team.
Speaker 3: I stopped I stopped caring.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean honestly, like US versus US period, like
Speaker 2: we over here like trying to get better and like
Speaker 2: if we handle our business, it don't matter.
Speaker 3: That's kind of the approach.
Speaker 2: I feel like the older you get, the more you
Speaker 2: stop caring about everyone else, like in that way, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, in the right way exactly. And so to
Speaker 2: be honest, like I don't care, she doesn't, you don't.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't right about that.
Speaker 1: That's one thing you can guarantee.
Speaker 4: We all see y'all celebration on the Vegas trip, but
Speaker 4: take us take us back to the journey to get
Speaker 4: to that point. You know a lot of people have
Speaker 4: seen all that, but ups and downs, the highs and
Speaker 4: lows doing the season, the injuries, the arguments with teammates,
Speaker 4: all that. You know, a lot of people don't understand
Speaker 4: that very few people get a chance to experience being
Speaker 4: a champion, are the best in their craft.
Speaker 1: Talk about the road to get there? How does that feel?
Speaker 2: Even when you ask that question, I can tell it
Speaker 2: like it holds weight, you know, it does.
Speaker 3: It's a feeling that's hard to articulate.
Speaker 2: But you're right, there's so many moments throughout and it's
Speaker 2: not like that season. Like you said, it's like compounding
Speaker 2: because like I got drafted in twenty seventeen Asia and
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen Jackie in twenty nineteen, and then Chelsea came
Speaker 2: in a free agent in twenty twenty. So like we've
Speaker 2: been building this for years, you know, and we've we've
Speaker 2: had i mean, first three years didn't make the play playoffs,
Speaker 2: you know, and we had three number one picks, so
Speaker 2: and we've heard like the underachieving in that for for
Speaker 2: a while. So to get over that hump, it was just, man,
Speaker 2: it was special, special to do with that group too,
Speaker 2: you know, because as you guys know, when things get hard,
Speaker 2: it's really easy to just be like it's mass fault,
Speaker 2: I'm out, and so to kind of dig down and
Speaker 2: decide that we're going to do this together and we're
Speaker 2: going to put our egos aside, because like when you
Speaker 2: play on a team like this, you might go you
Speaker 2: might go from eighteen shots to fourteen, and your average
Speaker 2: is going to go down, and people around what's going
Speaker 2: on with you? You're not no, no, I'm better than I was.
Speaker 2: But it's it's the team. It's the team. So it's hard.
Speaker 2: It's hard to turn it, tune out that noise, but
Speaker 2: when you in, it makes it all worth it.
Speaker 4: But that's as an athlete that says more about the
Speaker 4: players that you have that they him all buy in
Speaker 4: with being all everybody being great, we can all buy
Speaker 4: into the one goal that says a lot about players
Speaker 4: and that they're coachable. You know what I'm say, Because
Speaker 4: a lot of teams can't do that. You see teams
Speaker 4: with a lot of stars to badly make the playoffs,
Speaker 4: but to be able to come together put your egos
Speaker 4: to a side. That's the great teams. That's why I
Speaker 4: got a chance of going back to back. Who was
Speaker 4: the most lit on the preid?
Speaker 1: Who is the Stephen Jackson of the parade? Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: about to crown yourself.
Speaker 3: Man, it's crazy. That's the guard took me out. Took
Speaker 3: me out. That's my first gigar I've ever smoked.
Speaker 2: That was brutal. I would say Asia, she was on
Speaker 2: four locos.
Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: I love her?
Speaker 4: I love her, I love her, I love her.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love her. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would probably say he and Jackie Jackie sneaky. Jackie
Speaker 2: had them glasses on, but Jackie was faded.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The one day you supposed to be doing the playoffs,
Speaker 4: she had a chance to go one last time was
Speaker 4: Sue Bird?
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about Sue man Sue's Uh.
Speaker 3: Sue is an icon.
Speaker 2: Sue is uh somebody that for me had a tremendous
Speaker 2: impact on my career because she took the time out
Speaker 2: of her day to always check on me, and like
Speaker 2: that goes a long way because that does nothing for her,
Speaker 2: you know, and not like really resonated with me. And
Speaker 2: I mean she just made everyone around her better on
Speaker 2: the court and off the court, you know.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And so man Sue, she's the goat uh And it's
Speaker 2: just an honor to be able to play. I got
Speaker 2: to play with her a little bit with USA Basketball,
Speaker 2: but playing against her the way she competes, she's like
Speaker 2: a computer out there. But again, just really happy for her.
Speaker 2: She's had one of the greatest careers of all time.
Speaker 1: So I love so. She's one of the coolest people
Speaker 1: on earth. Because we talked to her, right, she's about her.
Speaker 1: She said she's gonna come smoke with us. That's so.
Speaker 1: But but but the live cast that you do with
Speaker 1: with that with DT is the funniest. They had the
Speaker 1: little red cups. You don't know what's in them cups.
Speaker 1: They turned up. You've been very vocal about the league,
Speaker 1: most recently speaking to players and all star tickets in
Speaker 1: a perfect world, what do you feel like the w
Speaker 1: can do better?
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, how much time we got?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: No, you know, I'm not here to bitch.
Speaker 2: I would say that I feel like everything rises and
Speaker 2: falls on leadership. And so when you have the right
Speaker 2: people making the right decisions that represent the body of
Speaker 2: players that you have, good things will happen. And until
Speaker 2: that happens, you'll see what you see, which is a
Speaker 2: secondary product, and it's not it's not on the court,
Speaker 2: it's everything else that comes into that. And so you know,
Speaker 2: we're we're working to make changes, but it takes time,
Speaker 2: and I understand that changes in overnight. But but man
Speaker 2: like we uh, we know that the game has come
Speaker 2: a long way, but we do have a long way
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 1: But it helps to have stars speak up and not
Speaker 1: be afraid to speak up, because some people are afraid
Speaker 1: to speak up. And even they know I could be
Speaker 1: speaking up and it's going to speak for the masses,
Speaker 1: and some people are afraid to do that.
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: Any favorite college hoopers? Obviously, the final four last year
Speaker 1: for the women's was incredible. I got guarded more attention
Speaker 1: than the menu. You know, Kaylyn Kark and Angel restole
Speaker 1: the show. But any players that you still follow, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched a lot of college basketball. I mean
Speaker 2: those two are tremendous. Uh. I think that it's so
Speaker 2: cool to see like them take off after that too.
Speaker 1: There's a reason you like.
Speaker 3: To capitalize on that. For me, the nil like that,
Speaker 3: that to me was really cool to see.
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, people wonder like is that good
Speaker 2: for the w is I think it's great. I think
Speaker 2: it pushes is that envelope further and further. People got
Speaker 2: people talking that didn't even watch basketball before you know
Speaker 2: that tuned in, So I think all that is great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was definitely spoke up on it. But when
Speaker 1: Angel Rescott, I don't even know. People were just mad
Speaker 1: because she was talking shit. And I'm just like, if
Speaker 1: if men talk this shit every single day, you guys
Speaker 1: to say a motherfucking word. A woman talked shit on
Speaker 1: the biggest stage and it wasn't like it was a
Speaker 1: one sided shit talk because Kaitlyn was definitely talking her
Speaker 1: shit the entire time. What were your guys' thoughts as
Speaker 1: women and as players in your league when there was
Speaker 1: such an outrage for what, you know, when she was
Speaker 1: doing what's a part of the game.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love it as someone that I mean,
Speaker 2: I know you guys will be surprised, but I only
Speaker 2: talk when someone talks to me.
Speaker 1: First. I was the same way he was just talking
Speaker 1: to That's hard to believe. That's hard to believe.
Speaker 2: I mean, if I get going, I get going. But
Speaker 2: to me, I feel like, honestly, it's people feel secure.
Speaker 2: You have like a strong black woman that's confident in
Speaker 2: herself and knows what she's talking about, and she's just
Speaker 2: saying what she feels. I think a lot of people
Speaker 2: were like, WHOA, Like, how do I feel about this?
Speaker 2: I think it's the same way with women in general.
Speaker 3: A lot of times.
Speaker 2: You should see some of the things that people say
Speaker 2: on w games, like I don't even know if they
Speaker 2: would ever make us up, but it's it's like.
Speaker 3: We talk like y'all talk. There's no difference.
Speaker 2: It might even be cattier. Probably it's probably more personal.
Speaker 1: Too say that women could d they get straight to
Speaker 1: shout out to life.
Speaker 3: I didn't mean to.
Speaker 1: Trauma, yeah, I mean I just thought it was adicting because,
Speaker 1: like I said, you see this ship every single day
Speaker 1: in our game. Now then women are doing it, have
Speaker 1: been doing it, but now it's on a big stage.
Speaker 1: You guys have an issue with it, like what's the problem.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think you said it very well.
Speaker 4: Even if it was a problem, why was it the
Speaker 4: most watched. It had to be entertaining to see, to
Speaker 4: see women compete like that, that's what you want to see.
Speaker 1: It's good for the game, and it's teaching, teaching the younger.
Speaker 4: Girls that's coming up how to play and how to
Speaker 4: approach the game, how to take it serious, how to compete,
Speaker 4: how to want to win, how to state lawyer in
Speaker 4: your school. You know, it's like all these things that
Speaker 4: they showing, both girls showing. I love it for the game.
Speaker 4: Outside of your team. Give me three players. Do you
Speaker 4: feel like we're at the top of the league.
Speaker 2: We know one, I mean Stu, He's tough man. Let's see.
Speaker 2: I like Stu. I mean I think Jewel. Jewel's tough.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna go to sleeper. I really like
Speaker 2: Ryan Howard. I like Ryan Howard's game. I think that
Speaker 2: she is smooth and I'm glad that she got uh
Speaker 2: the replacement for All Stars. She deserved that. In the
Speaker 2: first place. But that's a tough that's a tough check.
Speaker 1: Give me three NBA players you'd like to watch.
Speaker 2: I love Jalen Brunson. Mmm, I like watching him in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Man, and he's a lefty. I mean, Steph
Speaker 2: is obviously probably one of my favorite players. And I
Speaker 2: would say, I like dejont I gotta go back with
Speaker 2: my dogs.
Speaker 1: He's a dude.
Speaker 3: Dude, Yeah, you went to school together.
Speaker 1: Great, dude, great.
Speaker 3: He was paid.
Speaker 1: Absolutely had him on the show and I was blown.
Speaker 1: I mean I got a chance to meet him at
Speaker 1: Jamal Crawford's wedding way back, and he was a youngster.
Speaker 1: And Jamal Crawford is such a basketball head that this
Speaker 1: motherfucker for his bachelor party had to play basketball midnight.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, I'm off of three blunts. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much tequila and the gym has packed. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: we want to play basketball anyway, you gotta meet my
Speaker 1: young boy. He was like a sophomore junior. When I
Speaker 1: tell you he was a Jamal shadow but dropped like
Speaker 1: fifty on us. I'm like, oh, he's going to be
Speaker 1: your problem. And then fast forward he's here. But we
Speaker 1: had him in Atlanta earlier in this year, and I
Speaker 1: was just so impressed with his demeanor, the way he
Speaker 1: carried himself, his maturity beyond his years, Like just a
Speaker 1: really good obviously humble, yeah humble, you know, come from
Speaker 1: humble beginnings, but just a good dude. So I really
Speaker 1: became a huge fan. I was already a fan, became
Speaker 1: a huge fan of Johntay as a man after we
Speaker 1: got a chance to interview him.
Speaker 4: Two, you signed with under Armour. You're gonna unveil the
Speaker 4: first pe alst the weekend.
Speaker 3: YEP.
Speaker 1: Excited.
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's so cool.
Speaker 1: It gotta be cool.
Speaker 2: It's so cool to be to be with a brand
Speaker 2: too that cares and is like invested in, like really
Speaker 2: puts their money where their mouth is. I think that
Speaker 2: to me speak volumes. I mean today we're coming, like
Speaker 2: I apologize for being late. We were coming from an
Speaker 2: access camp with young kids in Las Vegas and we
Speaker 2: got to do a camp and then take them shopping.
Speaker 2: Kids were hype, you know, and it's just cool because
Speaker 2: it's like that's what matters, that's impact.
Speaker 4: What do you what do you think is the most
Speaker 4: important way to impact women's basketball.
Speaker 1: I'll just period outside.
Speaker 2: Of the WNBA, that's a question. I mean, I think,
Speaker 2: first and foremost be myself. I think that like in
Speaker 2: terms of like what I can do is like stay
Speaker 2: true to who I am, and I think that bleeds
Speaker 2: into everything that you know I do.
Speaker 3: I also feel like.
Speaker 2: When you know I make choices, I make them for
Speaker 2: the future and for these young women coming behind me,
Speaker 2: you know, like what I go through, I can help
Speaker 2: make their lives easier or better. And like you know,
Speaker 2: for me, like being the Player Association, like being vice president,
Speaker 2: I try to really like listen to what my teammates,
Speaker 2: my colleagues, my peers want need because this game is changing,
Speaker 2: you know, the twenty twenty five CBA is coming in
Speaker 2: the w and we're gonna make big gains, and so
Speaker 2: I feel like having that proper representation and having people
Speaker 2: get what they need is important. But this next generation
Speaker 2: is I mean, man, they don't They're they're paving their
Speaker 2: own path and it's really cool to see.
Speaker 4: What would you tell a fan who wants to see
Speaker 4: the w NBA be just as big as the NBA,
Speaker 4: What would you tell them?
Speaker 2: You know what's so interesting because when I get comparisons
Speaker 2: to the NBA. It's like apples and oranges. It's like
Speaker 2: we're so young, like where we are in our league
Speaker 2: versus where the NBA was six year Yeah, it's like
Speaker 2: we're technically bigger, right, So like we got to give
Speaker 2: yourself a little bit of grace. But I also feel
Speaker 2: like I tell fans all the time, like, don't come
Speaker 2: support me, come watch me play. Like when you go
Speaker 2: watch Devin Booker play, you're not saying I'm here to
Speaker 2: support Devin. No, you're here to say I want to
Speaker 2: see this man hoop. Right, And there's like a there's
Speaker 2: a language difference. You know, this is in charity, right,
Speaker 2: And I think that matters, like that respect factor matters,
Speaker 2: and so like we understand like we have to earn that.
Speaker 2: But I encourage people that I run into to tell them, like,
Speaker 2: you know, we hoop just like them.
Speaker 4: There's so many people like me that just want you
Speaker 4: to have it now, you know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 4: feel like y'all deserve it just as much as we do,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's the female version of
Speaker 4: women's version of basketball. It has the same initials as
Speaker 4: the NBA. Everything should be the same. That's how a
Speaker 4: lot of people look at it and now we know
Speaker 4: it doing things don't happen overnight like that. But at
Speaker 4: the same time, we know y'all deserve it. Speaking, let's
Speaker 4: go back to stuff. You say you're a big fan
Speaker 4: of stuff. How does it feel to be under armored
Speaker 4: with Steff and also have your shoe coming out?
Speaker 1: You talk to them a lot.
Speaker 2: Oh man, this is the thing. I've never messed that
Speaker 2: from person, So I'm excited. I know, I know, we
Speaker 2: just have always like it just hasn't worked.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a comedian.
Speaker 3: Anyone that's and I do so big. That's crazy. You're good.
Speaker 2: I heard this story that he checks his Twitter at
Speaker 2: halftime see what people are saying, like, yo, try this
Speaker 2: in the game, and then he go does it like
Speaker 2: he goes to do it.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's crazy, like that he could pull it off.
Speaker 2: That is a comedian, Like to me, like, you have
Speaker 2: to be kind of sick and funny.
Speaker 1: Stuff is dope.
Speaker 4: When did you find your swag growing up? I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm looking at you right now, you're swaggy. When did
Speaker 4: you come into your own way the way you like
Speaker 4: to dress your fashion?
Speaker 2: I feel like I still I'm still coming into my
Speaker 2: own trying new stuff. You know, always evolves, you know.
Speaker 2: I love being like an adult and say hey, like
Speaker 2: I wonder why people do this, and then you try
Speaker 2: right and you're like, oh that's why, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Know, because you can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just trying to work.
Speaker 2: See what doesn't I'm super open to like anything, But yeah,
Speaker 2: I would say I a little bit more casual.
Speaker 3: I don't like to be all girly, you know, like.
Speaker 2: Y'all know, y'all know how girls dressed boy growing up,
Speaker 2: like playing I.
Speaker 3: Was a big tomboy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't know if I was a boy or
Speaker 2: girl because I had like a bull cut, I had
Speaker 2: a row, I was shipped like a pair like So
Speaker 2: it took me a second to like growing to my
Speaker 2: own skin. But no, I feel comfortable in it now.
Speaker 1: Two gold medals one for three on three, one for
Speaker 1: five on five. Does one more important than other? I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously representing the country is a huge honor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I joke like three on three is
Speaker 2: like the.
Speaker 1: X Games X Games stump though.
Speaker 2: You'll ever played like three on three like hoop it
Speaker 2: up back in the day.
Speaker 1: Feb rules, Well, three rules is different than Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people they don't even take the ball out, they
Speaker 4: just throw it back out and so as they take
Speaker 4: it out the net, they go real fast. But if
Speaker 4: some of the Fever guys came to the Big Three
Speaker 4: and it.
Speaker 2: Didn't work out for him, I could see that. But
Speaker 2: the other way around, I could see it to.
Speaker 1: Kill us out there. Yeah, yeah, it's too fast.
Speaker 3: But no, I mean I would say five and five.
Speaker 3: It's huge.
Speaker 2: You know, Paris is coming up, and to be able
Speaker 2: to try to you know, make that team and you know,
Speaker 2: hopefully play with my teammates like that, that is a dream,
Speaker 2: you know, the represent your country and go for a
Speaker 2: gold medal. That's a big one on my list that
Speaker 2: I'm running for. I'm running for.
Speaker 1: Ready for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked with the Austin Reeves. He's getting a
Speaker 4: chance to play with Fever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Vegas has been thriving on the sports
Speaker 1: side for the last few years. Obviously the Raiders come
Speaker 1: into town that you guys in the Knights were able
Speaker 1: to win. Uh, you guys are stealing the a's from Oakland, Vegas.
Speaker 1: You already rocket, it's already Rockets. What's the vibe out here?
Speaker 1: And and and just the energy around the city because
Speaker 1: I feel it being different. And then obviously there's talks
Speaker 1: of an NBA team possibly coming here.
Speaker 2: What's the energy like around Vegas of Lake Man Vegas?
Speaker 2: Is Vegas is I mean always but different though.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a different energy though, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean because sports has never really had a footprint
Speaker 1: out here, and now it does.
Speaker 3: It does.
Speaker 2: The locals take it seriously and it's cool to see,
Speaker 2: you know, they appreciate winning the Golden Knights. Shout out
Speaker 2: to them, Steiling Cup. That's it was awesome to see.
Speaker 2: But I feel like it's just growing. And like you said,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised a couple of years we get at.
Speaker 1: NBA team for sure.
Speaker 2: You know, baseball, it's a pretty sweet taxes better out here.
Speaker 3: Get yourself placed out here off the.
Speaker 1: Court outside of basketball. Who are you?
Speaker 2: I'm goofy. Honestly, I'm goofy. I love to hang out
Speaker 2: with my family, I love to eat food. I'll be
Speaker 2: napping when I can. Like, I'm really low key. I
Speaker 2: just try to enjoy life.
Speaker 1: Crazy hobby that no one would expect you to have.
Speaker 1: Something you do to be like, oh, really.
Speaker 3: Crazy hobby.
Speaker 1: Crazy goofy oh you know what I like to do? Uh?
Speaker 3: You know, like the paint palettes, but there's a picture
Speaker 3: and you try to paint it. Did I like to
Speaker 3: do that?
Speaker 1: We did? Those are starting to become more popular. Like
Speaker 1: I went to a couple of paint and SIPs. Now
Speaker 1: they do those are dope? Yeah, yeah, peaceful, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I ain't shit at it, even though the directions are
Speaker 1: right there that they're fun. Bro d Wade had one
Speaker 1: that was incredible, and then I went to another one.
Speaker 1: I did the d Way one, but it had the
Speaker 1: colors to the numbers to match the color so straight.
Speaker 1: When they just told us what to do, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck, I can't do this? But those are fun.
Speaker 1: The paint STIPs are dope, all right. You know you
Speaker 1: got to get out of here, busy woman, big weekend
Speaker 1: coming up, quick hitter, So first thing to come to mind.
Speaker 1: Let us know, top your top five w NBA players
Speaker 1: of all time time right on the spot.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll say I'll just go vintage, so I don't
Speaker 2: like get into it too much. Probably Sue d t
Speaker 2: Maya uh still and I'll go Lisa.
Speaker 1: I think we just saw may More a little bit ago,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't Did she just have a baby?
Speaker 3: I must have missed that before.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but this my Moore had a baby on
Speaker 1: her in the front of her, so it might have
Speaker 1: not have been the real manamour? Good question, good question.
Speaker 1: What do you know about Cynthia Cooper?
Speaker 3: No, she could be in there too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll just ask that was my More.
Speaker 1: They said she had a baby last year, so I
Speaker 1: knew that was my Mour. Yeah. Who's on your music
Speaker 1: rotation on Game Day?
Speaker 3: I'm old school. I like Earth on the Fire.
Speaker 1: Word okay word, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3: That's a bee that's coming out this weekend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's relations That's super dope. All right, there's
Speaker 1: another one, Ron m J. Kobe rank them?
Speaker 3: Stupid question? Why we do this?
Speaker 1: All great? All better than us?
Speaker 3: Great answer, Let's move on.
Speaker 1: She's gonna slip around it. Who's your favorite NBA player
Speaker 1: of all time? You have to rank who's your.
Speaker 2: Favorite all time? I would say it's a toss.
Speaker 3: Kobe.
Speaker 2: I watched with my dad growing up, so I feel
Speaker 2: like that was like huge. But also watching Braun and
Speaker 2: just the way he plays the game, I really appreciate it,
Speaker 2: so I feel like those two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, stuck on the islands, three shows, a movie in rotation,
Speaker 4: what you're gonna watch?
Speaker 3: Gladiator? Remember the Titans?
Speaker 1: The last spot is crucial.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 3: I feel like we need a funny one because we
Speaker 3: stuck on the island.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going on.
Speaker 3: Step brothers.
Speaker 1: Austin. Have you seen wedding crashers? So? Have you seen
Speaker 1: the the I think he's the gay brother that paint
Speaker 1: painted the picture. There was a me and my Austin
Speaker 1: with his hair off them, and Jack called him that
Speaker 1: guy yesterday and everybody, but I painted a picture for you. Uh.
Speaker 1: Five dinner guests dead or alive? You plus five at
Speaker 1: the dinner table, good wine, conversating who you got?
Speaker 2: I take my family, easy pick.
Speaker 1: No one's ever said that people have had family members.
Speaker 1: She said, I'm taking the whole family.
Speaker 4: If you could see one guest on our show, who
Speaker 4: would it be? But but you have to help us
Speaker 4: get them on the show.
Speaker 1: That's a cool teammates your husband's though, Darren, Yes, that's
Speaker 1: easy called all right, Well, Kelsey, we appreciate you. Best
Speaker 1: of luck. We want your teammates best of luck the
Speaker 1: rest of the season. Best of luck. This weekend w
Speaker 1: n b A All Stars here in Vegas. Look, you
Speaker 1: got some fans out there. Yeah, West Side were out here,
Speaker 1: Tyrone Corvin, Uh yeah again, best of luck with everything.
Speaker 1: Thank you for making time to come on our show today.
Speaker 1: We know you're really busy, but man messed luck.
Speaker 3: Thanks, appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Thanks Kelsey Plumb all the smoke. You can catch the
Speaker 1: show Time Basketball YouTube and I heard platform black effects.
Speaker 1: See y'all next week