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Speaker 1: From the berkshears to the sound from wherever you live

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Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give

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Speaker 1: us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop

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Speaker 1: on Major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: voter number seventy Rob Parker.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the podcast. I'm your host, Rob Parker.

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Speaker 3: Have a very very special edition of Inside the Parker.

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Speaker 3: Bob Kendrick, who, of course the president of the Negro

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Speaker 3: League basebilm Museum in Kansas City, Missouri, a place I

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Speaker 3: went to last summer. I enjoyed every minute of it. Bob,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Man. Rob is great to be with you. Thank you

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Speaker 4: so much for.

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Speaker 2: Having me, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: And Gerald Davis, who is the owner and of I'm

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Speaker 3: telling you it's called Pure Hitters T shirts.

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Speaker 2: And all kinds of.

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Speaker 3: Custom weare and Bob, I don't know, I know you

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Speaker 3: have one. What is the most comfortable I told I

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Speaker 3: told Gerald is the most comfortable shirt I have in

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Speaker 3: my wardrobe. Not a plug, not of anything. Did I

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Speaker 3: tell you that, Gerrold did you know.

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Speaker 5: You you actually text me before you told me so?

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Speaker 5: It was definitely not a plug.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it was definitely so pure Hitters dot Com

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Speaker 3: just great baseball athletic apparel company.

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Speaker 2: And Gerald welcome to the podcast as well.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Rovin. It's a privilege and honor to be

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Speaker 6: on here with you both. You voth for our people

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Speaker 6: that I admire and I've watched, and it's just a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you guys have a collaboration.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get to but first, and I want you

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Speaker 3: guys to talk about that for first, Bob, just catch

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Speaker 3: people up on new happenings, new doings in the Negro

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Speaker 3: League Baseball Museum, just stuff that's coming up that people

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Speaker 3: need to know about it they want to make a

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Speaker 3: visit and come down and see the music.

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Speaker 2: I highly recommend it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 6: Rob.

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Speaker 4: It was great to have you here, man, because you know,

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Speaker 4: as a baseball fan and I know how much you

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Speaker 4: here and to be immersed in what this place is

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Speaker 4: all about. It's special, folks, it really is. And to

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Speaker 4: segment for Thursday Night Football with Marshan Lynch and Patrick

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Speaker 4: Mahomes Senior, I find young quarterbacks. Father, and the minute

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Speaker 4: Rob Marshawan walked into the Negro League Baseball Museum, that

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Speaker 4: reminds you, folks, this is a football player. The minute

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Speaker 4: where you look out on the field of those the

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Speaker 4: field of legends, of life size statues. The first words

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Speaker 4: he said to me, man, I feel something. So it

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Speaker 4: The campaign is called Pitch for the Future, and you

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Speaker 4: all year long as we rightfully celebrate that event. Because

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll guess is Bob Ken of course from the

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Speaker 2: Can you tell people about that? Because that I will

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Speaker 3: Mlbbro dot Com will be all over that will be

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Speaker 4: Bob, you're not. Rob, You're right, And I missed you

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Speaker 4: while you guys were NABJ because they had the announcement

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Speaker 4: to have this game played on June twentieth. They're at

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Speaker 2: And it's the Cardinals and the Giants.

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Speaker 4: If I'm the Saint Louis Cardinals San Francisco Giants aka

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Speaker 2: I better have a jersey. I better get field.

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Speaker 3: I told CC, you better put me at first base

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Speaker 3: So softball, but I said, I gotta get on that

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Speaker 4: Hit me out there, justin case those who are listening

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Speaker 4: Good Lord blesses us so that Willy Maids can walk

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Speaker 4: on that feat you already know.

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Speaker 2: I got goose bumps already.

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Speaker 4: And I can't wait for June twentieth to be there

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: I now want to welcome in some earlier Gerald Davis,

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Speaker 3: of course from Pure Hitters a Peril and you guys

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Speaker 6: Well, I tell you, like I said earlier, it's such

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Speaker 6: This is such an honor for me to be able

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Speaker 6: And when I reached out to Bab, I said, hey, man,

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Speaker 6: I want, I want to. I wanna Instead of just donating,

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Speaker 6: I would if you allowed me to create a collection

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Speaker 6: You know that would be a thrill in my life.

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Speaker 6: You know, be able to give back in a business

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Speaker 6: And you know, I'm just hoping to get the support

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Speaker 6: it elevate my brand, but it's going to bring more

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we all we all have to keep the museum going.

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Speaker 6: I saw that segment with you and Marshawan and and

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Speaker 4: And so to be able to let me tell you

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Speaker 2: Man, Hey, I want to do this too.

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Speaker 3: And this is for the younger people listening to and

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Speaker 7: Yes, and this is what this is what these kids

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Speaker 5: You can play, hey, and you can play it longer.

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Speaker 3: That's that's an amazing amazing is that? Hey, guys, man,

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Speaker 3: and please make it your point and your business to

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Speaker 2: In Kansas City, Missouri. It is a must.

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Speaker 3: Sy and check out Jerald give everybody a website where

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Speaker 2: But Pure Hitters is pure hitters dot com.

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Speaker 5: No, it's our pure hitters dot net.

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Speaker 3: Pure hitters dot net. Go check out what they have

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Speaker 6: Let me just say this, the actual custom line that

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Speaker 2: We think, as you speak.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, Always a pleasure, my man. Love talking baseball,

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Speaker 4: Thank you man, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: In the words of New York TV legend the Lady

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Speaker 3: Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this time.

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Speaker 2: Until next time, Rob Parker out d Cad Davin. This

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Speaker 1: See you next week, same bat time, same Matt station.