WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: Scooby Dooby Doo, Where Are You? 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:04.280 Hey, everybody, Chuck here with this week's Saturday Select Pick 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.520 of the Week. I'm going for Scooby Doo this week. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.880 Scooby Doo, where are you? We? You know, enjoy doing 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.200 our pop culture episodes and some classic TV shows here 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.520 and there, and Scooby Doo certainly falls into that category. 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:18.919 So I think everyone should enjoy this one. If you 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:21.040 haven't heard it, and maybe if you have, give it 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.880 another listen because there might be a secret code embedded. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:38.440 I'm just getting to release it, but enjoy. Welcome to 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:59.840 stuff you should know from the house stuff works dot Com. Yeah, Scooby, Hey, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.720 welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:06.440 always is Charles W. Chuck Bryant. He is no longer 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.320 older than me. We are both seven years old at 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.840 this moment, right. I knew you catch up eventually. I 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.120 just came home from elementary school. My backpack has just 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.840 made a thud on the floor, and then stones have 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:23.319 just gone off, and thank god, you know, and um 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:28.319 on comes Scooby Doo. I'm not here though, it doesn't matter. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:29.840 What do you mean You're not here? I'm making out 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.679 with some girls. We're both we're both seven I know 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.039 that's what I'm saying. Everyone knows I was a late bloomber. 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:40.920 That's not true. You were quite the casanova chuck okay um, 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.400 And it didn't matter. Although I could have told you 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:47.360 within the first half of a second of hearing the 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.480 theme song, what Scooby Doo is about to come on? 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:56.559 Which episode? What? What version? Because remember there's ten ten, 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:02.800 ten point seven million incarnations of Scooby Doo, a lot 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.920 of them. What you just heard was, of course the 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.600 Russian version of the Scooby Doo theme. Those of you 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.000 who grew up in Vladivostock in Moscow, they're probably rocking 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:18.000 out to it. Scooby do. Yeah, that's pretty good, wasn't it. Yeah? Yeah, 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.120 that was from the well again, the Russian version of 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.960 the new Scooby Doo movies. But I mean the ones 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.200 that I was used to or um, Scooby Doo, where 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.680 are You? Which is of course the first one to me. 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.480 That is those twenty five episodes. That was Scooby Doo. See, 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.880 I think it extends a little bit, but it's more 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.440 encompassing than that. I'm a little older though, but it 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.880 only runs up to the limits of my nostalgia. I 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.360 don't watch it these days. I have to say, though, 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.000 I'm harden to know that Scooby Doo is still in 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.440 the world. As a matter of fact, I read a 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:54.360 study Chuck from two where they were trying to figure 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:59.120 out if cartoon characters have an effect on children's decisions 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.600 with food. So they gave kids, like some boxes that 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:07.040 had gummy bears, granola, just some there was snack food, right, 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.600 was there a Scooby snack in there? Um? And then 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.200 they gave them boxes of the exact same stuff, but 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:17.560 rather than like playing non cartoony boxes, they had cartoon 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.200 characters on the boxes they had. This is a two study, 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.040 So they had Shrek door of the Explorer in Scooby Doo. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.400 No way. Guess which one of those three cartoon characters 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:33.880 was forty years old at the time, Um, the Explorer, 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.720 Scooby dooty years forty years The other two were like 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.280 ten years old at the time. And they're using this 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.360 on four to six year olds and Scooby Doo still 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.920 making them eat gummy bears. Well, I breezed through that 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.680 Slate article you sent that really sums it up nicely. 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.600 What and that's the reason we're doing Scooby Doo when 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.640 we're not doing uh, I'm trying to think of some 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.360 fly By Nights and cartoons. Yeah, the Jetson's or no 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:01.280 fly By Night shirt tails, but awesome, love the shirt tails. 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.760 Scooby Doo. The reason we're doing this is because it 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.840 has persevered through the years like Muppets and become so 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:12.040 iconic that it's more than a cartoon. Yeah. In that 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.320 Slate article there's a they quote the guy who created 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.040 Clarissa explains it all and he's like, no one can 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:23.080 explain why Scooby Doo is so iconic so popular, because 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.080 he's like, it's not it's not the best, it's not 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.600 the worst. So why has it been around for forty years? 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.279 And he's like, you know, every cartoon creators like, why 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:35.280 can't my crappy cartoon become iconic? You know? I mean 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.799 they don't even there's no answer, is there? There isn't. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.240 And that's part of the allua Scooby Doo. Their their proposals, 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:46.120 like everybody loves a dog, um, everybody loves a mystery. Uh. 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.120 One of the um one of the reasons it's enduring 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.680 to kids. This author supposes is because they don't do 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:57.320 like the ironic like double entendres right to where you know, 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.240 adults get it and kids get it, but really, you know, 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.680 all for kids. It was all for kids plus kids 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.320 like uh. The reason, probably for the same reason that 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.560 things like Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys have persevered, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:12.240 is because kids doing adult like things like solving mysteries 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.560 and getting the best and getting the best of adults. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.840 Kids love that stuff. I was the Three Investigators fan, 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.000 Did you read them? Now? It was the three It 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.279 was Alfred Hitchcock's nephew and his two friends. Really, it 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.600 was awesome. I was big into a Encyclopedia Brown. I 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.080 loved him too. Yeah remember when he busted the kid 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.440 who was faking crying because the tears are coming out 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.120 of the wrong end of the eyes. Yeah. I could 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.960 never figure him out, though I always felt dumb. I 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.200 don't know if I ever figured any out either. Shouldn't 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.600 feel dumb. They were They were purposely made to obvious 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:50.440 skate the truth. Alright, So Dictionary Brown was great. Encyclopedia 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.280 Oh yeah, right, Scooby Doo. Let's go to the history. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.640 How about that the birth of Scooby? Yeah, because it 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.320 wasn't and it wasn't immediate. No, it was not what 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.080 was an immediate hit, but it wasn't an immediate Uh. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.120 Took a while to get on the air. Some incarnations happened. 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:08.960 Josh first one Scooby Doo, where are You? Originally, um, well, 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.120 let's go back a little bit before. Originally it was 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:15.200 called Who's Scared? And then they had another name that 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.680 kind of stuck for a little all called Mysteries five. Yeah, 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.159 And originally it was based on what was the radio 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:26.080 show I Love a Mystery. I Love a Mystery Slashdobe 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.200 gillis the TV show, which is what Shaggy's based on. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.000 He's like a Beatnick. He's based on Ma Energy Crabs. 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.960 Fred is based on Adobe or other stuff. The other 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.640 way to look at is that they were based in 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.440 large part of the Archie Gang, and Shaggy takes after 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:45.120 joke Head. I didn't see that. Yeah, interesting, but and 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.279 I'm an Archie guy. There were There wasn't even a 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.279 dog in the in the original versions, well not in 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.880 the very original version. There was no dog at all. 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:57.880 The Mysteries five comes along, there is Jeff g Off 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:03.919 of all things Off, Mike Kelly, Linda, Linda's brother w W. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.200 This is just unsettling, the unfamiliarity. And a dog called 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:12.200 too Much, Yeah, who was shaggy war like, he was 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:15.600 a shaggy dog, wore sunglasses and played the bongos because 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.280 they were a band. That was the original concept that 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.720 they were a band. So the dog played the bong 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.480 gos and they were worried. They had a Great Dane 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.680 idea at first. Then they were worried that the makers 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:26.960 of Marmaduke, You're gonna be like you ripped us off, 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.440 of course, and they tried too much and we're like, 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.880 too much sucks well, and Archie had ay a sheep dog, 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:36.320 so they steered away from that to the Great Danaans. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:43.840 And then Jeff and Mike became they merged, became Ronnie, 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:49.239 and then Ronnie eventually became Fred, Kelly became Daphne, Linda 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:53.120 became Velma. W W became Shaggy but was no longer 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:58.720 Daphne's brother. But it seems like I've heard of some 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.840 sort of distant relation that they've made reference to in 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:06.120 Scooby Doo, like they were something. Yeah, well they were 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.760 somehow related, but not brother and sister. Interesting, I could 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.840 just be making that up though maybe. Yeah. Alright, so 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:15.280 that's um how it was for a little while. Then 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.680 it eventually became the Scooby Doo as we know, and 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.080 love became the great thing as we said, right, and 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:25.040 we left somebody out there's a studio exact who has 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.120 been who well, it was totally instrumental in this creation, 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:32.719 like he ordered the show from Hannah Barbera. His name 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.320 is Fred Silverman as far as I know, Fred's named 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:39.319 after him, right, oh really, And the whole reason there 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.800 was a dog in there was because Joe Ruby and 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.040 Ken Spears, the writers and developers of Scooby Doo, two 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.720 young guns at the time, right, they knew that, um, 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.960 Fred Silverman loved dogs. He was a dog guy. So 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:52.840 that's the whole reason they inserted a dog. And there's 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.120 two young writers like put a dog in there, and 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.760 the exactly love it, right, And they asked Joe Barbera 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.479 of Hannah Barbera if they could do that. In Barbara's responses, 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:06.559 do whatever you want, and so they put the dog right. Um. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.240 But Fred Silverman also had an even bigger impact on 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:16.640 Scooby Doo, didn't he? Uh, the name Scooby Doo. Ye, yeah, 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:21.800 he got that supposedly from Dooby Dooby Doo, Frank Sinatra 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.280 Strangers in the Dark, Night Night, same thing. It was dark, 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:29.520 the night is dark. Let's see it's in Alaska. The 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:34.000 banners acceptionally quick today, thank you. So Fred was this 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.160 is kind of a landmark show at the time because 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.920 he wanted a half hour show, and cartoons weren't half 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.920 hour shows at the time. They were like Yogi Bear, 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.200 it was like eight minutes and then eight minutes and 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.360 eight minutes, or in the case of like the Flintstone, 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.960 that was a primetime thing. So this was geared towards 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.760 Saturday morning programming, and he wanted to have a full 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.280 half hour plot line and a little more substance going on. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:01.720 He also um wanted to steer away from violence. Uh. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.200 This The Scooby Doo came onto the scene at a 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:08.080 time when cartoon networks were um well, networks that show 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:12.439 cartoons were increasingly under pressure from parents groups, family groups, 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.560 church groups to stop showing as much violence in cartoons 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.320 like Johnny Quest there's a lot of rockham sock'm action 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.960 in that and um so they decided that Scooby Doo 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:26.480 and his his buddies would outwit villains rather than beat 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.480 them up. Yeah, they were never even like punches thrown 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:34.319 and Scooby Doo much less you know, mock gun violence exactly. 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.920 And and um yeah those guns in Johnny Quests were 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:41.280 cool though the two. Um, but think about it, like, 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.200 we wouldn't have had like all the contraptions that Fred 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.120 came up with, or any of them came up with, 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.280 like the the net that like you know, you tripped 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.040 and it just pulled you up or whatever. Well I 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.640 think that was a thing, right, it was, But you 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.079 don't need that if you just punched the guy. So 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.560 this whole aspect that these elaborate trap that they always 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:02.679 ended up setting that Scooby and Shaggy had debat the 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:07.120 bad guy into was a result of this movement toward 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.199 non violence. Well, at first cartoons, they point out in 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.520 this article, which I didn't realize cartoons at the time. 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.040 Before this, no one had really cared about the violent 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.200 thing because they weren't really geared towards kids. They were 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:22.000 shown before movies to general audiences in the theaters, and 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.320 then when it jumped to TV, kids started watching them. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:29.040 Clearly because their cartoons and they do a study like that, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.200 like why are kids inherently just like drawn to drawn image? 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.760 They're dumb, stupid kids. And uh, then people started saying, 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.480 a wait a minute, kids are watching these things. Now 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.280 we should have something not violent, right, and now Australia 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:46.880 is outlawing direct marketing to kids. So good for you Australia. Indeed, Josh, indeed, 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:51.120 uh when and we should mention September ninety nine when 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.480 Scooby Doo finally appeared and it was a big hit 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.280 right off of that. Yeah, here is a bit of 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:59.800 trivia for you. The first episode ever showed was titled 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.040 I didn't even know this? What a night? For a Night? 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.360 The second night is K and I g h T 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.680 What a night? And was it a ghost night? Yeah, 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.280 you've seen it before a million times. It's on. It's 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:17.840 in the intro good night with the red plume. Yeah. Absolutely, 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.160 Uh And that, Josh, is a staple of Scooby Doo. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:25.040 That was um many times they were fighting zombies and 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:29.000 ghosts and demons, but to take a little bit of 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.000 the scare out of it, because that's what they were originally. 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.520 The only time they were really worried was the fact 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.480 that there was so many like scary elements, but they 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:41.520 were always humans projecting projecting a ghost on the wall 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.160 of the cave. There was never obviously any real ghost 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.760 because it was even though his cartoon was rooted in reality, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.160 it was always a criminal. Yeah, and there's a there's 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.520 a couple of things that play here, which I didn't 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:56.240 think about until I started researching this. But UM Junior 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:01.960 Skeptic Magazine had this issue dedicated Scooby Doo because it's 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:06.079 like it's based on a completely skeptical view of the universe, 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.920 especially Fred. You know, there's not ghosts. It's it's all 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.360 it's very empirical, Like there's a ghost right there, but 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.640 it can't be a ghost because there's such thing as ghost. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.160 So let's get to the bottom of it. And there 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.960 is like some sort of human explanation of it. And 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:21.800 that well, like I said, that was Fred, that was 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.920 his Well, let's get into the characters Fred was. They 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.480 all had their roles. Fred was a skeptic. He was 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.200 the leader of Mystery Incorporated, and he was usually the 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.920 one saying, nine times out of ten he was like, no, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.920 that can't be that it is this and then we'll 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.000 get to the bottom of it. That was Fred Role. 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:43.240 He was very dapper, dandy guy with his scarf on 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.640 his neck. It's called a cravat, Chuck. It's perfectly normal. 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:51.520 People were cravats. Okay, see you've got one, you don't. 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.200 He was very handsome, a little square now he's a 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.800 He was a prep. He was a prep and he 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.800 was a little aloof maybe you're gonna saying, yeah he was. 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:02.480 He was the leader because he was the one that 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.400 was always trying to keep everyone on task and get 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:10.959 the mystery solved. And he was voiced by Frank Welker 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.840 right and still is today. If I'm not mistaken, I 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.680 don't know. I think he is. I can tell you 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.960 who has been doing voices from the get go, is 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.200 that Casey Casu Well, no more. Actually when did he 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.280 stop a couple of years ago? Okay, so when did 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:31.040 his Top forty run stop? Because he started Scooby Doo 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.800 and his Top forty hosting duties in the same year. No, 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.680 he did Scooby Doo longer because he he did Scooby 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:40.520 Doo all the way up until the latest incarnation and 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.640 Matthew Lillard took over. Actually, really, he's doing it now. 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.120 He does the voice because he did such an awesome job. 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.560 I'm no huge Matthew Lillard guy. But when I didn't 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.000 even see the Scooby Doo movies, I should point out didn't. 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:53.840 I didn't see them all, but I saw parts and 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:58.800 I remember thinking, wow, that dude is shaggy. I remember 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.320 thinking like, wow, my eyes are bleeding. I don't think 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.880 they're the best movies. Were they good casting? Though they 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:10.000 raked in some dough good casting. Austin Roberts was responsible 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.440 for the famous theme song that they used in the 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.840 original and then that was uh many times. It was 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.160 also another pop song played while they come montage. Yeah, 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:20.960 there's a whole bunch of them on YouTube. Yeah, and 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.680 that was generally Austin Roberts as well. And apparently if 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.760 you go onto YouTube and start searching, um Scooby Doo songs, yeah, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.920 you're gonna find that they If you're not familiar with 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.520 Scooby Doo and you just came across these, you would 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.240 assume that Fred and Daphne were in love and dating. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:39.920 I always assumed that as a kid. Yeah, but if 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:41.960 you if you watch it again, like friend Zam paying 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:47.720 that much attention to Dafney, she could have taken her left. Fred, Yeah, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.480 I think that was all just like I was a 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.920 kid and I thought, well, they're clearly the two most attractive. 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.080 That's projecting your own hormones on friends. What it was, 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.080 so they should be hooking up, Josh. I'm gonna ask 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:01.960 the listeners a question here. Okay, listeners, we're gonna sit 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:03.840 around for a week or two. No, no, no, it's 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.600 just rhetorical listeners. If someone came this is a Fred 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.560 noon In style question. If someone came up to you 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:12.360 and introduced themselves as Norville Rogers, how many people do 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.120 you think would have any kind of reaction to that 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.440 other than what's nice to me, Norvil? I say nine 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.840 out of ten would have no idea that that is 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:24.880 Shaggy's name. Did you know? I I knew at some point, 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:26.800 but no, I don't think I ever. Had you walked 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:28.240 up to me asked me that, I would have been like, 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.800 get on my face, normal, normal. Shaggy Roberts was Scooby 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:36.000 Doo's best bud Casey Kayson as the voice as you 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:40.520 said forever, Well, no, it was a finite amount of well, 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.520 of course, one of my favorites. I think the probably 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:51.479 the unsung hero, the real overlooked one was Velma. Velma Dinkley. 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.160 Yeah she had a last name too. Yeah. That I 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.720 didn't know all of them, did I mean? And spears 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.960 they went to, Uh, they went to the mattresses. Maybe 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.800 you could say over this the mat Sure, yeah, Elmy, 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.639 is she your she your faith in that? I I 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:12.400 root for underdogs. I tend to. She lost her glasses 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.520 all the time. She was a little bookish. She was 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:19.280 pretty ugly, little square as well. Yeah, um and uh 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.879 she but she got things done. She was very smart, 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.919 she was suspicious, She was a lot of times she 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.960 was about like a crooked real estate like anybody else. 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:29.000 A lot of times she was the one that kind 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.080 of put it all together. Yeah, Fred kind of took 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.280 the credit many times. But because it was the sixties, 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.680 of course, she was voiced by Nicole Jaffee at first, 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.240 then later Pat Stevens and then do you know who 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.000 does her voice now on the new one, Mindy Cone. 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.080 But the Facts of Life, No way, she's Velma Dinkley. 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.159 Now wow, on the new Scooby Doo Show. I've kind 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:49.800 to check out the new Scooby Doo. It's like a 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.080 star studied cast. I know I haven't seen it, so 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.880 I need to do so as well. So we got 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:59.200 to talk about well, jinkies is her her little catchphrase? 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:04.040 Yes and zinks clearly as Shaggy's. Everyone knows that. Yeah, 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:11.360 what was Daphne's catchphrase? Help, I'm stuck somewhere. She used 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.760 to get in trouble quite a bit, if somebody was 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.760 going to fall into a pit or be pulled back 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:22.920 into a tramp door, a sliding bookcase or something like that, 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.680 be separated from the gang. Yeah, it was Daphne. It 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.600 was Daphnie. They portrayed her as fairly helpless for many, 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.600 many years until now she's evolved a little bit. The 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:36.560 newest incarnation. She knows karate cool, a little bit more 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:41.159 self sufficient, doesn't rely, She's not like the oh goodness, 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.879 the damsel in distress type, right and well, the reason 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.720 um everybody always made sure to rescue Daphne instead of 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.280 just leaving her behind because she was hot, Well that 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.920 was one. She was also very rich and her dad 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.560 bankrolled mystery ink. I did not know that either. He 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:59.600 purchased the mystery machine. I assumed that he probably kept 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:04.400 Scooba in Scooby snacks, maybe gassed up the Mystery Machine 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.119 tires when you needed it, that kind of thing. I 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.679 don't know what else. They needed, food, money, They slept 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.240 in the Mystery Machine a lot. Yeah, well it's assumed, 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.280 so I guess you don't really see him sleeping. Yeah. 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:16.440 They didn't have a house that I know of. No, 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:21.200 they roamed around, yeah, solving mysteries. Daphne was voiced by 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:27.159 Endeira Stefania Christofferson, then later Heather North, then later Grade 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.719 de Least Lee the Leslie de Least. Where are you 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.159 getting this information? Well, I did a little digging around 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.800 and h then we got to cover the man himself. 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:42.240 And by man I mean dog, Yes, Scoob. Yeah. Don Messic, 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.760 the Great Don Messic voiced Scooby. And if you think 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:49.159 he sounds like Astro from the Jetsons, it's because he 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.920 voiced Astro from the Jetsons too, which one was asked, 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:57.280 Oh the dog, Yeah, yeah, it sounds like Scooby. Yeah, 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:00.320 that's because it was the same guy. Yeah, Okay, who 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:07.920 else was there? Wasn't um why iowa Iawa Takamoto. Yeah, 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.040 I think he's still the a VP at at the 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:16.080 Hanna Barbara. Yeh, but did he create Scooby Doo? I 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.360 thought Ruby and Spears did. What was I think the role? 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.000 I think he was just on the early development executive 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:25.679 development team and remains there Today's mistaken. I'm sure he 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.919 had a big hand into that. He also created, um, 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:33.760 the let's see the Great Gazoo. Oh really yeah, man? 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:38.840 And um, well this is the Great Gorilla mc Gilla Gorilla, No, no, 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:42.440 the Great Great Pape. Yeah he created those two. Yeah, 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:45.600 that's a nice track record there. Yeah. So the Gang, 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:47.280 it's you know, most of the shows are sort of 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.840 similar to The Gang encounters uh some mystery and they 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.159 usually uncovered at the end, these meddling kids. If it 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:55.240 wasn't for you, I would have made off with the loot. 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.960 It's very by the numbers, which is sort of funny 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:02.160 that it's this cartoon is persevered for this many years 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.920 because it was all the same and that that show 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.520 description you just gave, that was geared towards the children 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.000 who were raised by wolves over the last forty years, right, 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:17.040 who's never seen it? Yeah? Like really, Scooby and Shaggy 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.520 were always hungry. They love the Scooby snacks. They were 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.440 always scared, and usually they would tempt them with food 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.920 and to get them to act brave at the last minute. 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:28.080 That kind of thing. Well, let's you want to talk 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.920 about it now, about what you know what I'm talking 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:34.720 about A Chuggy and Scooby were always hungry. Yeah, that's 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:41.480 factor fiction here. I hear fiction, So go ahead and 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:44.320 spill it well substantively around the bush there. Okay. So 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:49.920 of course there's the the um, the rumor that Shaggy 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:54.320 and Scooby were Stoner's right, long standing rumor. Well, yeah, 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:56.159 and it makes a lot of sense. They're always hungry. 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.800 They talk, you know, kind of slow and sluggish. Shaggy 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:04.240 just look at him, yes, exactly, look at the Mystery Machine. Sure, yeah, 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:07.240 and it's nineteen nine when it premiered, exactly. I mean, 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:10.040 like got flowers on the side. They're originally a band, 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.240 so they they they just assumed that it was like 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:16.680 Ruby and Spears or some of the development guys um 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:21.720 in joke that they made Shaggy and Scooby a um uh. 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:25.000 Stoner's right, and not just assumed, but people say that like, 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.919 oh no, dude, it was this big inside joke like 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:32.120 this is almost the conspiracy bent to it. But um, 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:37.080 the people who were there creating these characters swear up 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.680 and down that they're they're not. And apparently you could 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:42.560 be like, well, of course they're not going to say that. Now, 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:44.720 why would you want to say that now? Can't come 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.800 out and say that. But Fred Silverman, the guy who's 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:52.080 the studio executive, who had his fingers all involved in this, 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:55.160 apparently he would never have gone along with that kind 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:59.320 of thing. He was so involved that he he was, 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:02.280