1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chuck here with this week's Saturday Select Pick 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: of the Week. I'm going for Scooby Doo this week. 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Scooby Doo, where are you? We? You know, enjoy doing 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: our pop culture episodes and some classic TV shows here 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: and there, and Scooby Doo certainly falls into that category. 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: So I think everyone should enjoy this one. If you 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: haven't heard it, and maybe if you have, give it 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: another listen because there might be a secret code embedded. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm just getting to release it, but enjoy. Welcome to 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: stuff you should know from the house stuff works dot Com. Yeah, Scooby, Hey, 11 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as 12 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: always is Charles W. Chuck Bryant. He is no longer 13 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: older than me. We are both seven years old at 14 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: this moment, right. I knew you catch up eventually. I 15 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: just came home from elementary school. My backpack has just 16 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: made a thud on the floor, and then stones have 17 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: just gone off, and thank god, you know, and um 18 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: on comes Scooby Doo. I'm not here though, it doesn't matter. 19 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: What do you mean You're not here? I'm making out 20 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: with some girls. We're both we're both seven I know 21 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Everyone knows I was a late bloomber. 22 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: That's not true. You were quite the casanova chuck okay um, 23 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: And it didn't matter. Although I could have told you 24 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: within the first half of a second of hearing the 25 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: theme song, what Scooby Doo is about to come on? 26 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: Which episode? What? What version? Because remember there's ten ten, 27 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: ten point seven million incarnations of Scooby Doo, a lot 28 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: of them. What you just heard was, of course the 29 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: Russian version of the Scooby Doo theme. Those of you 30 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: who grew up in Vladivostock in Moscow, they're probably rocking 31 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: out to it. Scooby do. Yeah, that's pretty good, wasn't it. Yeah? Yeah, 32 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: that was from the well again, the Russian version of 33 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: the new Scooby Doo movies. But I mean the ones 34 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: that I was used to or um, Scooby Doo, where 35 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: are You? Which is of course the first one to me. 36 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: That is those twenty five episodes. That was Scooby Doo. See, 37 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: I think it extends a little bit, but it's more 38 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: encompassing than that. I'm a little older though, but it 39 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: only runs up to the limits of my nostalgia. I 40 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: don't watch it these days. I have to say, though, 41 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm harden to know that Scooby Doo is still in 42 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: the world. As a matter of fact, I read a 43 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: study Chuck from two where they were trying to figure 44 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: out if cartoon characters have an effect on children's decisions 45 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: with food. So they gave kids, like some boxes that 46 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: had gummy bears, granola, just some there was snack food, right, 47 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: was there a Scooby snack in there? Um? And then 48 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: they gave them boxes of the exact same stuff, but 49 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: rather than like playing non cartoony boxes, they had cartoon 50 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: characters on the boxes they had. This is a two study, 51 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: So they had Shrek door of the Explorer in Scooby Doo. 52 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: No way. Guess which one of those three cartoon characters 53 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: was forty years old at the time, Um, the Explorer, 54 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: Scooby dooty years forty years The other two were like 55 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: ten years old at the time. And they're using this 56 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: on four to six year olds and Scooby Doo still 57 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: making them eat gummy bears. Well, I breezed through that 58 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Slate article you sent that really sums it up nicely. 59 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: What and that's the reason we're doing Scooby Doo when 60 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: we're not doing uh, I'm trying to think of some 61 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: fly By Nights and cartoons. Yeah, the Jetson's or no 62 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: fly By Night shirt tails, but awesome, love the shirt tails. 63 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: Scooby Doo. The reason we're doing this is because it 64 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: has persevered through the years like Muppets and become so 65 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: iconic that it's more than a cartoon. Yeah. In that 66 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: Slate article there's a they quote the guy who created 67 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: Clarissa explains it all and he's like, no one can 68 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: explain why Scooby Doo is so iconic so popular, because 69 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: he's like, it's not it's not the best, it's not 70 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: the worst. So why has it been around for forty years? 71 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: And he's like, you know, every cartoon creators like, why 72 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: can't my crappy cartoon become iconic? You know? I mean 73 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: they don't even there's no answer, is there? There isn't. 74 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: And that's part of the allua Scooby Doo. Their their proposals, 75 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: like everybody loves a dog, um, everybody loves a mystery. Uh. 76 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: One of the um one of the reasons it's enduring 77 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: to kids. This author supposes is because they don't do 78 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: like the ironic like double entendres right to where you know, 79 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: adults get it and kids get it, but really, you know, 80 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: all for kids. It was all for kids plus kids 81 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: like uh. The reason, probably for the same reason that 82 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: things like Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys have persevered, 83 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: is because kids doing adult like things like solving mysteries 84 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: and getting the best and getting the best of adults. 85 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: Kids love that stuff. I was the Three Investigators fan, 86 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: Did you read them? Now? It was the three It 87 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: was Alfred Hitchcock's nephew and his two friends. Really, it 88 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: was awesome. I was big into a Encyclopedia Brown. I 89 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: loved him too. Yeah remember when he busted the kid 90 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: who was faking crying because the tears are coming out 91 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: of the wrong end of the eyes. Yeah. I could 92 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: never figure him out, though I always felt dumb. I 93 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: don't know if I ever figured any out either. Shouldn't 94 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: feel dumb. They were They were purposely made to obvious 95 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: skate the truth. Alright, So Dictionary Brown was great. Encyclopedia 96 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, Scooby Doo. Let's go to the history. 97 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: How about that the birth of Scooby? Yeah, because it 98 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: wasn't and it wasn't immediate. No, it was not what 99 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: was an immediate hit, but it wasn't an immediate Uh. 100 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: Took a while to get on the air. Some incarnations happened. 101 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Josh first one Scooby Doo, where are You? Originally, um, well, 102 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: let's go back a little bit before. Originally it was 103 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: called Who's Scared? And then they had another name that 104 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: kind of stuck for a little all called Mysteries five. Yeah, 105 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: And originally it was based on what was the radio 106 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: show I Love a Mystery. I Love a Mystery Slashdobe 107 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: gillis the TV show, which is what Shaggy's based on. 108 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: He's like a Beatnick. He's based on Ma Energy Crabs. 109 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: Fred is based on Adobe or other stuff. The other 110 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: way to look at is that they were based in 111 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: large part of the Archie Gang, and Shaggy takes after 112 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: joke Head. I didn't see that. Yeah, interesting, but and 113 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: I'm an Archie guy. There were There wasn't even a 114 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: dog in the in the original versions, well not in 115 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: the very original version. There was no dog at all. 116 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: The Mysteries five comes along, there is Jeff g Off 117 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: of all things Off, Mike Kelly, Linda, Linda's brother w W. 118 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: This is just unsettling, the unfamiliarity. And a dog called 119 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: too Much, Yeah, who was shaggy war like, he was 120 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: a shaggy dog, wore sunglasses and played the bongos because 121 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: they were a band. That was the original concept that 122 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: they were a band. So the dog played the bong 123 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: gos and they were worried. They had a Great Dane 124 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: idea at first. Then they were worried that the makers 125 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: of Marmaduke, You're gonna be like you ripped us off, 126 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: of course, and they tried too much and we're like, 127 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: too much sucks well, and Archie had ay a sheep dog, 128 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: so they steered away from that to the Great Danaans. 129 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: And then Jeff and Mike became they merged, became Ronnie, 130 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 1: and then Ronnie eventually became Fred, Kelly became Daphne, Linda 131 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: became Velma. W W became Shaggy but was no longer 132 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Daphne's brother. But it seems like I've heard of some 133 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: sort of distant relation that they've made reference to in 134 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: Scooby Doo, like they were something. Yeah, well they were 135 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: somehow related, but not brother and sister. Interesting, I could 136 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: just be making that up though maybe. Yeah. Alright, so 137 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: that's um how it was for a little while. Then 138 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: it eventually became the Scooby Doo as we know, and 139 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: love became the great thing as we said, right, and 140 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: we left somebody out there's a studio exact who has 141 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: been who well, it was totally instrumental in this creation, 142 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: like he ordered the show from Hannah Barbera. His name 143 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: is Fred Silverman as far as I know, Fred's named 144 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: after him, right, oh really, And the whole reason there 145 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: was a dog in there was because Joe Ruby and 146 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: Ken Spears, the writers and developers of Scooby Doo, two 147 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: young guns at the time, right, they knew that, um, 148 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: Fred Silverman loved dogs. He was a dog guy. So 149 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: that's the whole reason they inserted a dog. And there's 150 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: two young writers like put a dog in there, and 151 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: the exactly love it, right, And they asked Joe Barbera 152 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,479 Speaker 1: of Hannah Barbera if they could do that. In Barbara's responses, 153 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: do whatever you want, and so they put the dog right. Um. 154 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: But Fred Silverman also had an even bigger impact on 155 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: Scooby Doo, didn't he? Uh, the name Scooby Doo. Ye, yeah, 156 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: he got that supposedly from Dooby Dooby Doo, Frank Sinatra 157 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: Strangers in the Dark, Night Night, same thing. It was dark, 158 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: the night is dark. Let's see it's in Alaska. The 159 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: banners acceptionally quick today, thank you. So Fred was this 160 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: is kind of a landmark show at the time because 161 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: he wanted a half hour show, and cartoons weren't half 162 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: hour shows at the time. They were like Yogi Bear, 163 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: it was like eight minutes and then eight minutes and 164 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: eight minutes, or in the case of like the Flintstone, 165 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: that was a primetime thing. So this was geared towards 166 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: Saturday morning programming, and he wanted to have a full 167 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: half hour plot line and a little more substance going on. 168 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: He also um wanted to steer away from violence. Uh. 169 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: This The Scooby Doo came onto the scene at a 170 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: time when cartoon networks were um well, networks that show 171 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: cartoons were increasingly under pressure from parents groups, family groups, 172 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: church groups to stop showing as much violence in cartoons 173 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: like Johnny Quest there's a lot of rockham sock'm action 174 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: in that and um so they decided that Scooby Doo 175 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: and his his buddies would outwit villains rather than beat 176 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: them up. Yeah, they were never even like punches thrown 177 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: and Scooby Doo much less you know, mock gun violence exactly. 178 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: And and um yeah those guns in Johnny Quests were 179 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: cool though the two. Um, but think about it, like, 180 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: we wouldn't have had like all the contraptions that Fred 181 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: came up with, or any of them came up with, 182 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: like the the net that like you know, you tripped 183 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: and it just pulled you up or whatever. Well I 184 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: think that was a thing, right, it was, But you 185 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: don't need that if you just punched the guy. So 186 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: this whole aspect that these elaborate trap that they always 187 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: ended up setting that Scooby and Shaggy had debat the 188 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: bad guy into was a result of this movement toward 189 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: non violence. Well, at first cartoons, they point out in 190 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: this article, which I didn't realize cartoons at the time. 191 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: Before this, no one had really cared about the violent 192 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: thing because they weren't really geared towards kids. They were 193 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: shown before movies to general audiences in the theaters, and 194 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: then when it jumped to TV, kids started watching them. 195 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: Clearly because their cartoons and they do a study like that, 196 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: like why are kids inherently just like drawn to drawn image? 197 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: They're dumb, stupid kids. And uh, then people started saying, 198 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: a wait a minute, kids are watching these things. Now 199 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: we should have something not violent, right, and now Australia 200 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: is outlawing direct marketing to kids. So good for you Australia. Indeed, Josh, indeed, 201 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: uh when and we should mention September ninety nine when 202 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: Scooby Doo finally appeared and it was a big hit 203 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: right off of that. Yeah, here is a bit of 204 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: trivia for you. The first episode ever showed was titled 205 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: I didn't even know this? What a night? For a Night? 206 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: The second night is K and I g h T 207 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: What a night? And was it a ghost night? Yeah, 208 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: you've seen it before a million times. It's on. It's 209 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: in the intro good night with the red plume. Yeah. Absolutely, 210 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: Uh And that, Josh, is a staple of Scooby Doo. 211 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: That was um many times they were fighting zombies and 212 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: ghosts and demons, but to take a little bit of 213 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: the scare out of it, because that's what they were originally. 214 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: The only time they were really worried was the fact 215 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: that there was so many like scary elements, but they 216 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: were always humans projecting projecting a ghost on the wall 217 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: of the cave. There was never obviously any real ghost 218 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: because it was even though his cartoon was rooted in reality, 219 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: it was always a criminal. Yeah, and there's a there's 220 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: a couple of things that play here, which I didn't 221 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: think about until I started researching this. But UM Junior 222 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: Skeptic Magazine had this issue dedicated Scooby Doo because it's 223 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: like it's based on a completely skeptical view of the universe, 224 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: especially Fred. You know, there's not ghosts. It's it's all 225 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: it's very empirical, Like there's a ghost right there, but 226 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: it can't be a ghost because there's such thing as ghost. 227 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: So let's get to the bottom of it. And there 228 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: is like some sort of human explanation of it. And 229 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: that well, like I said, that was Fred, that was 230 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: his Well, let's get into the characters Fred was. They 231 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: all had their roles. Fred was a skeptic. He was 232 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: the leader of Mystery Incorporated, and he was usually the 233 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: one saying, nine times out of ten he was like, no, 234 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: that can't be that it is this and then we'll 235 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it. That was Fred Role. 236 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: He was very dapper, dandy guy with his scarf on 237 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: his neck. It's called a cravat, Chuck. It's perfectly normal. 238 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: People were cravats. Okay, see you've got one, you don't. 239 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: He was very handsome, a little square now he's a 240 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: He was a prep. He was a prep and he 241 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: was a little aloof maybe you're gonna saying, yeah he was. 242 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: He was the leader because he was the one that 243 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: was always trying to keep everyone on task and get 244 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: the mystery solved. And he was voiced by Frank Welker 245 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: right and still is today. If I'm not mistaken, I 246 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: don't know. I think he is. I can tell you 247 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: who has been doing voices from the get go, is 248 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: that Casey Casu Well, no more. Actually when did he 249 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: stop a couple of years ago? Okay, so when did 250 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: his Top forty run stop? Because he started Scooby Doo 251 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: and his Top forty hosting duties in the same year. No, 252 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: he did Scooby Doo longer because he he did Scooby 253 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: Doo all the way up until the latest incarnation and 254 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: Matthew Lillard took over. Actually, really, he's doing it now. 255 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: He does the voice because he did such an awesome job. 256 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm no huge Matthew Lillard guy. But when I didn't 257 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: even see the Scooby Doo movies, I should point out didn't. 258 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: I didn't see them all, but I saw parts and 259 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: I remember thinking, wow, that dude is shaggy. I remember 260 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: thinking like, wow, my eyes are bleeding. I don't think 261 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: they're the best movies. Were they good casting? Though they 262 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: raked in some dough good casting. Austin Roberts was responsible 263 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: for the famous theme song that they used in the 264 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: original and then that was uh many times. It was 265 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: also another pop song played while they come montage. Yeah, 266 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of them on YouTube. Yeah, and 267 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: that was generally Austin Roberts as well. And apparently if 268 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: you go onto YouTube and start searching, um Scooby Doo songs, yeah, 269 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna find that they If you're not familiar with 270 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: Scooby Doo and you just came across these, you would 271 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: assume that Fred and Daphne were in love and dating. 272 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: I always assumed that as a kid. Yeah, but if 273 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: you if you watch it again, like friend Zam paying 274 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: that much attention to Dafney, she could have taken her left. Fred, Yeah, 275 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: I think that was all just like I was a 276 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: kid and I thought, well, they're clearly the two most attractive. 277 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: That's projecting your own hormones on friends. What it was, 278 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: so they should be hooking up, Josh. I'm gonna ask 279 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: the listeners a question here. Okay, listeners, we're gonna sit 280 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: around for a week or two. No, no, no, it's 281 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: just rhetorical listeners. If someone came this is a Fred 282 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: noon In style question. If someone came up to you 283 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: and introduced themselves as Norville Rogers, how many people do 284 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: you think would have any kind of reaction to that 285 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: other than what's nice to me, Norvil? I say nine 286 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: out of ten would have no idea that that is 287 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Shaggy's name. Did you know? I I knew at some point, 288 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: but no, I don't think I ever. Had you walked 289 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: up to me asked me that, I would have been like, 290 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: get on my face, normal, normal. Shaggy Roberts was Scooby 291 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: Doo's best bud Casey Kayson as the voice as you 292 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: said forever, Well, no, it was a finite amount of well, 293 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: of course, one of my favorites. I think the probably 294 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,479 Speaker 1: the unsung hero, the real overlooked one was Velma. Velma Dinkley. 295 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah she had a last name too. Yeah. That I 296 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: didn't know all of them, did I mean? And spears 297 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: they went to, Uh, they went to the mattresses. Maybe 298 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: you could say over this the mat Sure, yeah, Elmy, 299 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: is she your she your faith in that? I I 300 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: root for underdogs. I tend to. She lost her glasses 301 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: all the time. She was a little bookish. She was 302 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: pretty ugly, little square as well. Yeah, um and uh 303 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: she but she got things done. She was very smart, 304 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: she was suspicious, She was a lot of times she 305 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: was about like a crooked real estate like anybody else. 306 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: A lot of times she was the one that kind 307 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: of put it all together. Yeah, Fred kind of took 308 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: the credit many times. But because it was the sixties, 309 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: of course, she was voiced by Nicole Jaffee at first, 310 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: then later Pat Stevens and then do you know who 311 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: does her voice now on the new one, Mindy Cone. 312 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: But the Facts of Life, No way, she's Velma Dinkley. 313 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: Now wow, on the new Scooby Doo Show. I've kind 314 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: to check out the new Scooby Doo. It's like a 315 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: star studied cast. I know I haven't seen it, so 316 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: I need to do so as well. So we got 317 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: to talk about well, jinkies is her her little catchphrase? 318 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: Yes and zinks clearly as Shaggy's. Everyone knows that. Yeah, 319 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: what was Daphne's catchphrase? Help, I'm stuck somewhere. She used 320 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: to get in trouble quite a bit, if somebody was 321 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: going to fall into a pit or be pulled back 322 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: into a tramp door, a sliding bookcase or something like that, 323 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: be separated from the gang. Yeah, it was Daphne. It 324 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: was Daphnie. They portrayed her as fairly helpless for many, 325 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: many years until now she's evolved a little bit. The 326 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: newest incarnation. She knows karate cool, a little bit more 327 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: self sufficient, doesn't rely, She's not like the oh goodness, 328 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: the damsel in distress type, right and well, the reason 329 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: um everybody always made sure to rescue Daphne instead of 330 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: just leaving her behind because she was hot, Well that 331 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: was one. She was also very rich and her dad 332 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: bankrolled mystery ink. I did not know that either. He 333 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: purchased the mystery machine. I assumed that he probably kept 334 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: Scooba in Scooby snacks, maybe gassed up the Mystery Machine 335 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: tires when you needed it, that kind of thing. I 336 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: don't know what else. They needed, food, money, They slept 337 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: in the Mystery Machine a lot. Yeah, well it's assumed, 338 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: so I guess you don't really see him sleeping. Yeah. 339 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: They didn't have a house that I know of. No, 340 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: they roamed around, yeah, solving mysteries. Daphne was voiced by 341 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: Endeira Stefania Christofferson, then later Heather North, then later Grade 342 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: de Least Lee the Leslie de Least. Where are you 343 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: getting this information? Well, I did a little digging around 344 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: and h then we got to cover the man himself. 345 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: And by man I mean dog, Yes, Scoob. Yeah. Don Messic, 346 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: the Great Don Messic voiced Scooby. And if you think 347 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: he sounds like Astro from the Jetsons, it's because he 348 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: voiced Astro from the Jetsons too, which one was asked, 349 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: Oh the dog, Yeah, yeah, it sounds like Scooby. Yeah, 350 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: that's because it was the same guy. Yeah, Okay, who 351 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: else was there? Wasn't um why iowa Iawa Takamoto. Yeah, 352 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: I think he's still the a VP at at the 353 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: Hanna Barbara. Yeh, but did he create Scooby Doo? I 354 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: thought Ruby and Spears did. What was I think the role? 355 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: I think he was just on the early development executive 356 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: development team and remains there Today's mistaken. I'm sure he 357 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: had a big hand into that. He also created, um, 358 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: the let's see the Great Gazoo. Oh really yeah, man? 359 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: And um, well this is the Great Gorilla mc Gilla Gorilla, No, no, 360 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: the Great Great Pape. Yeah he created those two. Yeah, 361 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: that's a nice track record there. Yeah. So the Gang, 362 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: it's you know, most of the shows are sort of 363 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: similar to The Gang encounters uh some mystery and they 364 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: usually uncovered at the end, these meddling kids. If it 365 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: wasn't for you, I would have made off with the loot. 366 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: It's very by the numbers, which is sort of funny 367 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: that it's this cartoon is persevered for this many years 368 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: because it was all the same and that that show 369 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: description you just gave, that was geared towards the children 370 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: who were raised by wolves over the last forty years, right, 371 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: who's never seen it? Yeah? Like really, Scooby and Shaggy 372 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: were always hungry. They love the Scooby snacks. They were 373 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: always scared, and usually they would tempt them with food 374 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: and to get them to act brave at the last minute. 375 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: That kind of thing. Well, let's you want to talk 376 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: about it now, about what you know what I'm talking 377 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: about A Chuggy and Scooby were always hungry. Yeah, that's 378 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: factor fiction here. I hear fiction, So go ahead and 379 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: spill it well substantively around the bush there. Okay. So 380 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: of course there's the the um, the rumor that Shaggy 381 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: and Scooby were Stoner's right, long standing rumor. Well, yeah, 382 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: and it makes a lot of sense. They're always hungry. 383 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: They talk, you know, kind of slow and sluggish. Shaggy 384 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: just look at him, yes, exactly, look at the Mystery Machine. Sure, yeah, 385 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: and it's nineteen nine when it premiered, exactly. I mean, 386 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: like got flowers on the side. They're originally a band, 387 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: so they they they just assumed that it was like 388 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: Ruby and Spears or some of the development guys um 389 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: in joke that they made Shaggy and Scooby a um uh. 390 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: Stoner's right, and not just assumed, but people say that like, 391 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: oh no, dude, it was this big inside joke like 392 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: this is almost the conspiracy bent to it. But um, 393 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: the people who were there creating these characters swear up 394 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: and down that they're they're not. And apparently you could 395 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: be like, well, of course they're not going to say that. Now, 396 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: why would you want to say that now? Can't come 397 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: out and say that. But Fred Silverman, the guy who's 398 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: the studio executive, who had his fingers all involved in this, 399 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: apparently he would never have gone along with that kind 400 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: of thing. He was so involved that he he was, 401 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: he just would have known. Well, And Tacamoto said the 402 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: same thing, right, he said this came out years after, 403 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, the show premiered. It was not a thing 404 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: like it makes I get it. I get it, guys, 405 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: but it's not true. But the beauty of it is 406 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: is like it doesn't matter. Takemotos can't say that all 407 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: day long. You know, it's gonna believe him, you know, 408 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean like there's still gonna be some sixteen or 409 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: old that says exactly man, did you ever notice blank? 410 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: I think that's like a coming of age, first the 411 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: hormones and then the stoner epiphany. Yeah, yeah, Well there 412 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: was also the rumor that um, Velma was gay. And 413 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: that's not true either, of course, because they in the 414 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: New Incarnation they're hinting Mindy Cohen's taking in a really 415 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: sexual direction. Well, they are hinting at Shaggy and Velma 416 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: having a relationship. I don't think they've gone full blown 417 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: with it, but they're kind of poking around that area. Well, 418 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: they always like if the gang split up, it was 419 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: no Velman and Daphney went off with Fred, didn't they. Well, 420 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: it's usually Fred and Daphne, So that was another rumor, 421 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: Was it Fred and Daphney We're off doing their thing? 422 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: But that's not true either because Fred you know? Or 423 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: is it Isn't It up to the imagination of the 424 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: individual maybe so rather than the intention of the creators. Yeah, 425 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: we don't want to kill anything. You'd just be a sick. Oh, 426 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: as much as you want dear stuff, you should know 427 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: a listener, uh Josh In seventy two and I don't 428 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: know if you like these, but the full hour long 429 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: the new Scooby Doo movies started coming out, the ones 430 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: with the guest stars all of a sudden, with don 431 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: k Nots not don Knots playing someone don k Nots 432 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: just Don Notts. He was in two yea Phillis Diller. 433 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: Who else Harlem Globetrotters. Obviously they were I think Batman 434 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: and Robin weren't. Two and just who were actually mostly 435 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: dead at the time, but their voices done by um impersonators. 436 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: I wondered about that. Actually, Don Adams from Get Smart, 437 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: I was he on there? Um Jerry read Little Mayory 438 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: Sunshine all right with me? He's saying that's something they 439 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: found him. It was a haunted opera. I think Sunny 440 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: and Share Mama Cass working at a handy factory, or 441 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: she owned a cane factor. It's just mean back in 442 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: the days when obesity was funny. Well, they took the 443 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: show an hour. That was a good one. They took 444 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: the show to an hour and just in a slightly 445 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: odd direction, but it worked for me. I enjoyed those 446 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: shows very much, and no one seemed to, you know, 447 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: the you could suspend the disbelief that sure the Harlem 448 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: globetrot her shirt there in the cave all of a sudden, 449 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: right and they're in their uniforms with a basketball tricks. Yeah. Yeah, 450 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: it was a good press for all them, I'm sure, 451 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: although if you're really having to rethink suspending belief, disbelief 452 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: when it's a cartoon, it's time to check in somewhere. 453 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: Side characters, Josh gotta mention Scrappy Doo, who annoyed me 454 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: a bit. Oh yeah, there are a lot of people 455 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: out there that hate Scrappy do I mean hate him 456 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: like he's Hitler's dog. Scrappy was actually, uh, Scooby's nephew, 457 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: and as everyone knows, he was the counter to Scooby. 458 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: Was very brave and brash. You could even have brash, 459 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: very much brash, and then it's kind of a kind 460 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: of a jerk. He was a little bit of a Ye, 461 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: he was a troublemaker. And then my favorite, which was 462 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: Scooby Dumb. Was he your favorite? Yeah? I love Scooby Dumb. 463 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: He was the like the exploitation character. He had like 464 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: that hat and he had a pork pie hat, was 465 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: dumb looking, and he had a huge Southern drawl and yeah, 466 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: clearly a hillbilly. He was voiced, my friend, by the 467 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: legendary DAWs Butler. And if you're a cartoon fan, if 468 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: your cartoon aficianano, you're like, of course Dalls Butler. If 469 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: you're not. You still are a fan because he did 470 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: Yogi Bear, Quick Drama, Grawl, Snaggle plus yeah, and huckleberry Hound. 471 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: That's quite a range, well, huckleberry Hound, Quick Drama, Growl 472 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: and Scooby Dumb or not a range, but Snaggle Puss 473 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: thrown in there, and it was like it's a shining 474 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: moment Yogi and he has actually a really great long list. 475 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: I think he did Fred Flintstone for one year or 476 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: one episode, maybe the pilot, and then he did Barney 477 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: for a little while. Um he I mean his You 478 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: got to his I M D P d P page 479 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: and it's like cartoon all star. God, dude, did you 480 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: go to the Hanna Barbara's corporate page. What's it like? 481 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: They have a page that has like a listing of 482 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: all their cartoons and it's alphabetical. Um, they have everything. 483 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: They did everything. The only one that I watched that 484 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: I loved that was not a part of my late youth. 485 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: Um that they didn't do was Thunder of the Barbarian. Yeah, 486 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: I didn't watch that one. That was good. I was 487 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: speaking of Hong Kong Foo though. I think that was 488 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: everything was they did. Um, the super Friends they did 489 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: Yogi Bear, they did um adam Ant, like all those 490 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: cats that hung out with Yogi Bear, Justine, the Pussycats, 491 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: probably the Yeah, the hair Bear bunch, what's the Bears? 492 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: Teen Wolf? Did you watch the Team Wolf cartoon? There's 493 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: like four or five episodes? Pretty cool? Was this after 494 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: the movie? Yeah? Yeah, I see, I was beyond the 495 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: movie was based on the four episode run cartoons like 496 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: you know what this needs needs, Michael J. Fox, that'll 497 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: bring it back to life. They did everything that was 498 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: pretty cool. It's like this nice trip down memory lane 499 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: to go on. Hannah Barbara's like page of cartoons that 500 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: they've done well. And that's why Fred Silverman went with 501 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: them because they were at the time. I think they 502 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: said they did at least more than half of the 503 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: cartoons on the air, Like I believe it. Yeah, it's 504 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: probably more like it's my guest. Hong Kong Foo was 505 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: great number one super guy. Um. Let's talk about the 506 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: animation a little bit, getting to the tech. Yeah, because 507 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: Hannah Barbara was responsible for about fifty of the cartoons 508 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: in existence when Scooby Doo came out, because they figured 509 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: out how to make cartoons cheap enough for TV budget, Right, 510 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: it's pretty brilliant. Yeah, just called limited or planned animation, 511 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: and uh full ten years before so I guess in 512 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: the fifties, late fifties is when they devise this. And 513 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: it's very simple concept. But if a body part doesn't 514 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: have to move, then you don't have to draw it 515 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: over and over for each frame, for each cell. So 516 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: that's why when you look at Scooby Doo now sort 517 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: of clear, you'll be like, why did Shaggy walk? He 518 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: looked like the upper half of his body never moved 519 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: and he just had those low pie legs. Because they 520 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: didn't want to draw it over and over again. They 521 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: just drew one leg when leg when like, And they 522 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: did that using cells, like clear sheets of cellular remember 523 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: the overhead projector in high school? Yea, like those sheets cellular, right, 524 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,719 Speaker 1: and the bottom sheet would have Shaggy's upper body, and 525 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: then there'd be another sheet with his right leg, another 526 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: sheet with his left leg, and they just they only 527 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: had to animate the two upper sheets rather than the 528 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: whole sheet, and that just changed everything. You can buy 529 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: the cells that this great place in Hollywood. It sells 530 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: like framed original cells cartoons. You should get a Simpsons. 531 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: I should maybe I should get you one day. Okay, 532 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: that cannon generic beer from Los Angeles, Empty cannon generic beer. 533 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: It's the best gift. Um what else? Chok uh Oh? 534 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: The the cravat you were making fun of about wearing, Um, 535 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: it was actually kind of an old animator's trick. Well, 536 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: I thought they did not do that. They did with Fred, 537 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: like that's the reason why he was wearing a cravat, 538 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: I think. But um, you can. You can change facial 539 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: expressions very easily. You can animate the whole rest of 540 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: the body and just change the head in the face, 541 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: right if you have separation right, So you can't have 542 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: separation that there's not supposed to be a line between 543 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: the neck and the stern um, but there can be 544 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: if there's a cravat there. Yeah, And they say, if 545 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: you pay attention to these older cartoons, you see a 546 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: lot of neck ties and collars, Like uh, I think 547 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: Hulcle berry Hound had a necktie of collar, remember that. 548 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: And I don't snaggle Puss. He dressed like a Chippendale, 549 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: didn't He had like the cuffs and like the tuxedo. 550 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: That's the second time we've mentioned that on the show 551 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: the Chippendale thing. But they did not have and this 552 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: was apparently a Takamoto um decision. They did not have 553 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: what are called muzzle lines. Right, do you remember that 554 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: that uh animated show that's in pulp fiction that Bruce 555 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: Willis when he was a kid, he was, okay, yeah, 556 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: where it's like an animated face and then just like 557 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: the lips are movie. Well, they used to animate just 558 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: the lips moving and the rest of the face wouldn't. 559 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: But Tacamoto apparently wanted more expression than that. We made 560 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: it so the animators couldn't just draw the mouth and 561 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: leave anything else. He drew too many extra lines that 562 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: gave expression to the face, and the result was they 563 00:31:52,520 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: forwarded the whole animation process forwarded fast forwarded, Josh. The 564 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: rest of the show is a little bit like a 565 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: regular show. They scripted like a regular show. They storyboard it, 566 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: They did the voice recording just like you you know, 567 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: would imagine. Uh. They lay it out and break it 568 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: down on paper, and then it is sent to animation 569 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: at that point where they lip sync it all to 570 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: the mouths. And that largely has been done in Korea 571 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: and other places overseas for many years, Like the Have 572 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: you've seen the Banks the intro to that Simpsons. Yeah, man, 573 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: that's awesome, Man, that is so awesome. Did you hear 574 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: that there was some guy on um eBay auctioning off banks? 575 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: He's identity that really he had come up with it 576 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: over the past few years. He was researching um the 577 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: sale price of some of banks these pieces and tax 578 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: records that showed the same amounts, and he put it 579 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: together and was auctioning off for a million dollars and 580 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: was about to get it and apparently got paid off 581 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: by banks. That's what they think, or knowing Banksy. The 582 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: whole thing was Banks. The good point, what a guy. 583 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: So when they animated back in the day, Josh, they 584 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: traced with ink and then painted onto the back of 585 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: the acetate. And today, of course, with computers, the drawings 586 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: are generally scanned, although they do say that there's still 587 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: a lot of drawing done and most of the coloring 588 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: and details and things like that are added with computers, 589 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: so there's still some purity to that. Most cartoons are 590 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: not live because it's a terrible strain on the animator's 591 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: risk exactly. And here's the other thing too, there is 592 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: some editing that goes on in post production. But because 593 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: this animation, you want to plan it out such that 594 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: it's sort of just runs in a line or fashion 595 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: and you don't have to worry about it. So a 596 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: lot of the editing is um sound effects editing, other 597 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: sound editing, adding props and just things to enhance it, 598 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So that's the deal there. That is 599 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: quite a deal. It's a free deal. It takes about 600 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: six months for one half hour show. They say, yeah, 601 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: it's a long time. Yeah, I mean think about that. 602 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: Imagine if they hadn't come up with limited animation, how 603 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: much that would take? How much longer it would take? Yeah, 604 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: six months for a show? Is that possible? Well, I 605 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: don't know if that was. No, I think it's now. 606 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: That's how long it takes. What. I don't know if 607 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: that's then or now? You know what, We've had some 608 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: animators and stuff right in so somebody that we need 609 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: to find out in the industry. Yeah, how long does 610 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: it take to make a half hour cartoon? Yeah? Minutes shows? 611 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: Oh that's kind of true. We had some myths and 612 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: facts that we've already busted, but one of them we 613 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: didn't get to was, um, there was a myth that 614 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: the show's characters were based on the five Boston colleges. Yeah, 615 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: I've not heard this one. I had neither. Fred was Amherst, 616 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: Daphne was Holyoake, Mount Holyoake, Velma was Smith College, Shaggy 617 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: was obviously Hampshire, and the party animal Scooby was clearly 618 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: you Mask. And they said that that's not true either. 619 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: In fact, Hampshire College came about a year after Scooby 620 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: Doo premiered, So they said that one kind of kills that, 621 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: and they I think Takamoto said this, these are Bostonians 622 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: trying to kind of get a little regional pride going. 623 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: But I didn't get if they were from Boston. There 624 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: they were supposed to be from Boston. I heard that. 625 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: I don't know where. Yeah, if Boston people just made 626 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: it up, or if there was some sort of reference 627 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: to Boston. And here's the other thing I couldn't find that. 628 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: Hopefully someone will know is I seem to remember as 629 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: a child learning something about then being on a track 630 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: team at some point, like Shaggy was on the track team. 631 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: I think I remember some episode where they referenced that. 632 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: So I couldn't find that and hopefully there's like some 633 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: Scooby efficionados that will say, oh yeah, of course, of 634 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: course he's a poll vaulter because he poll vaulted in 635 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: episode number twenty four to get away from the wax 636 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: Fanom exactly, you got anything else I do? Actually? Um, 637 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: remember we talked about Fred Silverman. If you look at 638 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: the list of Scooby Doo incarnations in uh in nineteen 639 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: seventies six, it goes from CBS, which in originally ran 640 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: Scooby Doo to ABC. Yeah, yeah, and he did that 641 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: because Fred Silverman went to ABC. This guy loved this 642 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: show this much, he just took it wherever he went. Yeah, 643 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: I got one more little factory too. I saw that 644 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: Casey Caysum agreed to come back, and uh, not the 645 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: latest one because Matthew Lillard does it, but I think 646 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: it was the previous. If he could make Shaggy a 647 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: vegetarian because he's a big vegetarian, and yeah, sure, who cares, 648 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: do whatever you want? What if you wanted, it doesn't matter. 649 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: So Matthew Lillard is to Casey Casum what Ryan Sea 650 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: Chris is Dick Clark. Huh uh yeah sure in a way. Well, 651 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: although Dick Clark still does the rock and if he 652 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: just has helped, Yeah, he's a co host now. So 653 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: the sort of the scene, all right, No, I've got 654 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: a little more. If just trolling the internet you get bored, 655 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: search Scooby Doo among some of the other stuff, you'll 656 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: find some gems. Mental Floss actually has a um quiz 657 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: where you have to guess whether it's an actual real 658 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: life event or Scooby Doo plot. Are it's kind of 659 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: some of them. It's pretty neat awesome. Just the concept 660 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: alone means you should take that quiz. Well, that means 661 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: that they found a few things that were so close 662 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: that they decided to base an article. Yeah, people do 663 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 1: crazy stuff, real estate developers, they do nuts stuff. Um there. 664 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: List Verse has a very cool top ten of odd villains, 665 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: including the wax fantom uh and then Google did you 666 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: notice last Halloween had five different logos for Halloween and 667 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: all the more Scooby Doo themed. Yah. So true. So 668 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: after all these years, man, all these shows have come 669 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: and gone that were huge, and Scooby Doo has persevered 670 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: and continues too. That's right, that's pretty awesome. Hats off 671 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: to you, Scooby Doo. Do you got anything else? I 672 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: think that's the limits of my bad impressions. If you 673 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: want to learn more about Scooby Doo, and I mean 674 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: like everything, especially if you're interested in television show development, 675 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: you should read this very unique article on the site. 676 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: Just type in Scooby Doo and the search part how 677 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com, which means now it's time for 678 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: listener mail Josh. A while ago we talked about um acupuncture. 679 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: Acupuncture is that we did when yes, I know we're calling, 680 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: Oh you were fall We got hammered by people because 681 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like acupuncture. But at the 682 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: end of that show, we called for surgery horror stories 683 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: and we got quite a few, actually, and this is 684 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: one of them. Okay, and here it is, all right, guys, 685 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: and Jerry hope all as well. A friend of a 686 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: friend went in to have a cancerous testicle removed and 687 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: they took out the wrong one. No, it was a 688 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: basic mistake when you go in for it's not a 689 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: basic mistake, that's what he Frank in l A describes 690 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: it as a basic mistake. It wasn't Frank's testicle either. 691 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: It was a basic mistake when you go in for 692 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: that operation. A nurse puts an X on the inside 693 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: of the thigh that corresponds with the testicle that is 694 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: to be removed, and she marked the wrong leg pretty easy. 695 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 1: Someone caught it after it was too late, and they 696 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: ended up taking both of them out. When they told him, 697 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: he started crying. I'll vet with laughter, but his wife 698 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: was the one that was furious. I know they received 699 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: a settlement, but I don't know those details. So this 700 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: is a true story, and I'm more than happy to 701 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: have my buddy verify it. Really enjoyed the podcast. Frank 702 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: in l A. Well, Frank's uh friend of a friend. Sorry, Bud, 703 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: it sounds like you got a good sense of humor 704 00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: about it. Well his friend knows at least, well a 705 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: friend of a friend. Yeah, so yeah, nurses watch out 706 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: with that sharpie. Yeah, you want to be like fully 707 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: awake and aware and paying attention when they come into marrow. 708 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what it is. She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, Wow, 709 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: that's all I got. That's quite enough, Chuck. 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