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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program once again, coming your

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Speaker 1: way from Phoenix the NFL Annual Meeting, which is kind

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Speaker 1: of wrapping up, but not really because they still have

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Speaker 1: some stuff going on, but it's kind of wrapping up.

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Speaker 1: Roger Goodell with his press conference today. Various news items

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Speaker 1: coming out of this one and involving your Texans coach

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Speaker 1: Demiko Rans is going to join us first and then

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Speaker 1: team president Mike Toman and much more coming up later

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Speaker 1: in the show. Tomorrow night will have that interview with

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Speaker 1: Cal and Hannah McNair that we promised. In fact, they

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Speaker 1: should still say scheduled to appear because you never know

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Speaker 1: until you know, but they should be on.

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Speaker 2: But let's kick it off right here.

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Speaker 1: It was the AFC coach's breakfast this morning, Hot and

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Speaker 1: cold running coaches. I posted on X pictures of the

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Speaker 1: AFC South head coaches in case you needed some visual

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Speaker 1: confirmation of that. But it's always very interesting because you

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Speaker 1: have all these ten person round tables in a banquet room.

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Speaker 1: You have sixteen of them, one for each coach, and

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Speaker 1: then you have the media swarming each table, so it's

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Speaker 1: quite the scene. Demiko O'Ryan's held court. He also had

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Speaker 1: a little session with the local media outside and he

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Speaker 1: also visited with our Texans radio tables. So let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: Head coach Tomiko o'rian's paying a visit here. Coach, how's

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Speaker 1: it going. How do you like the NFL annual meeting?

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Speaker 3: This is awesome, man, coming out here to Arizona. Beautiful weather, warm,

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Speaker 3: reminds me of Houston. But it's cool when you can

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Speaker 3: get everyone together, all the head coaches, all the gms,

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Speaker 3: everybody getting together to you know, just discuss matters of

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Speaker 3: the game. How can we move the game forward? So

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Speaker 3: it's been a really, really good meeting this year.

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Speaker 1: All right, before we get to the nuts and bolts

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Speaker 1: of the Texans. When you're with other coaches at the

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Speaker 1: reception or whatever, do you guys.

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Speaker 2: Talk a lot of ball?

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Speaker 1: Do you talk a lot of procedure or do you

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Speaker 1: talk about family and other stuff?

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Speaker 4: Heah, you talk family.

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Speaker 3: Like I see some guys I've worked with before, especially

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Speaker 3: Mike Lafol, all these these three to three new head

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Speaker 3: cool just seeing their wives, their kids catching up with

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Speaker 3: their families. That's the first thing. And then of course

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Speaker 3: I see Liam Cohen. We're going in the refreshment store,

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Speaker 3: and we instantly start talking ball, so to start talking about,

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Speaker 3: you know, how.

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Speaker 4: Competitive it is, how much how much.

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Speaker 3: Better each team has gotten, and you know, just of

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Speaker 3: the same mindset when you come to the competitive nature,

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Speaker 3: and it's we understand that we're competitors, but we also

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Speaker 3: respect each other. I respect what he's done there in Jacksonville,

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Speaker 3: and we were definitely talking a little ball.

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Speaker 2: Everybody saw the team photo.

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Speaker 1: Well it's not a team photo, but it looks like

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Speaker 1: one of all the coaches, right, the coaches picture. It's

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Speaker 1: got to be really special for you to be in

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Speaker 1: that group, that moment, to be with everybody at once.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, man, that's a special time, special moment,

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Speaker 4: You back to that surreal moment like, wow.

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Speaker 3: It's only thirty two yeah right, it's only thirty two

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Speaker 4: So you don't take.

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Speaker 3: That lightly, right, You wear it with the badge of honor,

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Speaker 3: and you want to represent it the right way.

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Speaker 4: So It's really cool every year that we get to

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Speaker 4: do that picture. Who's trying to jockey for what position?

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Speaker 4: All the brothers are trying to sit next to each other.

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Speaker 1: It was a good moment, all right, coach, Well, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned teams getting better. The Texans have gotten better as

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Speaker 1: well this offseason. I know every year is different, but

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Man, it was first off, starting with our guys, it

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Speaker 3: Sheldon had an outstanding year, one of the best of

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Speaker 4: Of that group.

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Speaker 3: That relationship that him and Will has is really a

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Speaker 3: Dalton and daneil very deserving of that. And you know,

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Speaker 3: in a matter of free agency, you end up moving

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Speaker 3: on from some good dudes, right, I mean, Titus has

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Speaker 4: But it's just it's a.

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Speaker 3: Matter and nature of the business where hell players unfortunately

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Speaker 4: He's played right guard.

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Speaker 3: For the most of his time there in Cleveland, h

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Speaker 3: see why it compete there and left and getting Evan

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Speaker 3: Brown as well, another just depth player. He's play center,

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Speaker 3: wherever we need him to play strong players thirty players,

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Speaker 3: so excited to add him as well. Then we move

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Speaker 3: add Foster mo role. Now, Foster is man really jumps

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Speaker 4: He's tough, he's physical, he's gonna bring great energy.

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be great for the locker room,

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Speaker 3: really good personality, Like he's already I feel like he's

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Speaker 3: all the way across our free agency.

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Speaker 4: That's the offensive side, and we flip over the defense.

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Speaker 3: And you know, for us to get a guy like

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Speaker 4: Player, a tough player. It was. It's cool. One thing

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Speaker 3: Another cool part about that is when you do get

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Speaker 3: one guy that I've gotten a lot of comments about

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Speaker 4: You stole my favorite guy.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, And so he's an outstanding um man. I've

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Speaker 4: I know he's gonna bring. Oh, he's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Bring some toughness, physicality, but he's gonna bring some smart awareness,

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Speaker 3: you know, very alert, instinctive uh traits to our safety position.

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited to see him mix in with Kaylin,

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Speaker 3: mixing with Kamari Stingley really to fortify that secondary.

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Speaker 1: And you brought MJ back and a lot of so

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Speaker 1: the band's back together basically here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the band is back together. We can go play

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Speaker 3: me at free agency. Let's set it where we can

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Speaker 3: go play a game right now, and we can't. EJ

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Speaker 3: did a lot of great things for us, especially special teams.

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Speaker 4: He had a lot of big plays on kickoff.

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Speaker 3: Defensive wise, he can he stepped in and did some

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Speaker 4: Well MJ man, MJ got in. He ended up starting

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Speaker 3: So to get him back, No, he's really he's really

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Speaker 3: working hard now battling back from the injury. But he's

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Speaker 1: Coach April twentieth, that's when offseason conditioning begins. But I

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Speaker 1: see a lot of guys around the building. A lot

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Speaker 1: of guys are ready. It's like they don't want to

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Speaker 1: be in shape for offseason conditioning. And this seems different

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Speaker 3: And I think over the past three years, I've I've

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Speaker 3: that first day April twentieth, Like you can't show up

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Speaker 3: April twenty if and think, Okay, we only have a

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Speaker 3: the time that we have together Where you can't come

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Speaker 3: in trying to get in shape, trying to catch up.

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Speaker 4: You really have to come in already in shape, ready

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Speaker 3: And our Shrimp staff, I mean coach coach Mike you Banks,

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Speaker 3: You're not thinking you've enhanced your body, gotten stronger, gotten faster.

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Speaker 3: get better for those nine weeks we have.

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Speaker 1: How big is that for the coaching staff though, because

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Speaker 1: you haven't been able to coach anybody for a while directly, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just walk through the weight room and I say

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Speaker 3: get it and coach MO just checking on the guys.

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Speaker 3: It's been Uh, it's just always great to see them

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Speaker 3: and they working out hard, and it you with anybody

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Speaker 3: right when you have a partner, you have a teammate

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Speaker 3: that you're working out with, that workout is gonna.

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Speaker 4: Go much better.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I encourage guys, don't just go off

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Speaker 3: on your own working out, like, be there together, building

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Speaker 3: that camaraderie, that brotherhood, and you're getting better with your teammate.

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Speaker 3: A guy you're gonna be lined up with come you know,

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Speaker 3: October November, that's the guy you're going to be next

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Speaker 3: to and you're gonna remember those times you had back

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Speaker 3: in March training while everybody else is away, you were

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Speaker 3: there putting in the work.

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Speaker 1: Well, and all the former players always say the thing

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Speaker 1: they missed the most the locker room, the camaraderie. Well

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Speaker 1: you have that in the off season. That's great, right,

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Speaker 1: you have itvantage.

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Speaker 4: You have to take advantage of it. And our guys

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Speaker 4: are doing that.

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Speaker 3: And it helps when you got a good calf over

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Speaker 3: cafe over there too, good breakfast, good lunch over there.

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Speaker 2: So number one of the lead coach.

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Speaker 1: And this is years down the line, but the McNair's

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Speaker 1: the organization announced the facility on the northwest side of town,

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Speaker 1: the Toro District and the Texans HQ. What is that

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Speaker 2: All right, lot one more.

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Speaker 1: right back into the fray here on Texans Radio. We

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Speaker 5: It's fantastic market, it's been it's been a great couple

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Speaker 1: As a team president, There's a lot to digest, a

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Speaker 1: Well, I always think about this, if a fan could

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Speaker 1: The next big event we get to see the fans

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Speaker 5: It, well, I mean, I think the great thing now

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Speaker 5: that it's been announced is you can really get to work.

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Speaker 5: And so we're really putting definition to some of the

442
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Speaker 5: community benefits and bringing those programs to life. We're really

443
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Speaker 5: excited to unveil what we think is going to be

444
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Speaker 5: the first of its kind, really a sports management apprenticeship

445
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Speaker 5: for high school based students as well as from a

446
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Speaker 5: community college standpoint. And you know, to our knowledge, that

447
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Speaker 5: doesn't exist at this stage. You know, there's a proliferation

448
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Speaker 5: of management degrees that you can now get from a

449
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Speaker 5: sports perspective university level, but you don't have it at

450
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Speaker 5: a high school level. You don't have it where people

451
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Speaker 5: are actually focused on prepping the students the next year

452
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Speaker 5: of the future to get ready for those And so

453
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Speaker 5: because it's such a competitive space, we feel like we're

454
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Speaker 5: really going to benefit the area to get a leg

455
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Speaker 5: up when you think about a sports management degree in college.

456
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Speaker 5: So we're working on things like that, like we're really

457
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Speaker 5: putting the definition together on it. We just named our

458
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Speaker 5: Master Architect in Gensler.

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Speaker 2: OK.

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Speaker 5: So they've been with us through this journey, so we're

461
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Speaker 5: excited to do that. And it's just kind of bringing

462
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Speaker 5: all those things out to public.

463
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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: I think we're working through with some of our corporate partners.

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Speaker 5: We're excited, we're getting close. This is the movie trailer.

466
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Speaker 5: We're getting close for you know, some large announcements on

467
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Speaker 5: some of our partners that'll be joining us out there.

468
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Speaker 5: So watch the space that one's coming. But you know,

469
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Speaker 5: making the announcement allows us to get out there a little.

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Speaker 6: Bit more aggressively and push those timelines.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Sure, And so there's a lot about the partnership you

473
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Speaker 1: mentioned and how we're Hughes and Harris County commissioners, everybody

474
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Speaker 1: getting involved to make this thing happen.

475
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Speaker 2: A lot of work went on behind the scenes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Mark, you're exactly right. I think that's one of

477
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Speaker 5: the things that makes it so special. I think it

478
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Speaker 5: is just a great example of what the power of

479
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Speaker 5: a public private partnership can be, what the power of

480
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Speaker 5: Harris County when we're all aligned can help us deliver.

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Speaker 5: And certainly, as you mentioned, we have great partners with

482
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Speaker 5: Howard Hughes and so that's one of the things that

483
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Speaker 5: when you point back at this, I think that's like

484
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Speaker 5: one of the special stories is kind of that partnership overall.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk Texans in a second here, but

486
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Speaker 1: Love Volleyball postseason and here we go Season one of

487
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Speaker 1: Love Volleyball as of Texans entity. How did it go?

488
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Speaker 1: I know it's still in progress here, but the regular

489
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Speaker 1: season is over.

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Speaker 5: I mean, fantastic. You know, our players are amazing, coaches amazing,

491
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Speaker 5: We're having a great year. We're headed to the playoffs.

492
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Speaker 5: Couldn't script it better. And there's just such great alignment

493
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Speaker 5: on the energy with the locker room and what we're

494
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Speaker 5: trying to do for the future, certainly Hannah's leadership. There's

495
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 5: just so many great ties, a lot of great things

496
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Speaker 5: coming out of season one, Season one for us, as

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Speaker 5: you said, as a Texans entity.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll talk to Hannah McNair and Kal McNair

499
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Speaker 1: about flag football a bit, but I want to get

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Speaker 1: your take here because a lot is going on. We've

501
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Speaker 1: got the Olympics coming up before you know. We just

502
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Speaker 1: had that Tom Brady event, which is not really the

503
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Speaker 1: same brand, but it was Team USA playing the NFL

504
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Speaker 1: guys and some others.

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Speaker 2: But what did you think of that?

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Speaker 1: And this is the whole movement here, Mike, because here

507
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Speaker 1: we are in the spring girls Flag is going on

508
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Speaker 1: in season, they're about to kick off. I guess they

509
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Speaker 1: don't kick it, but they're about to start in April

510
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Speaker 1: practicing right now.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the whole thing, well.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think the great piece that I'd point

513
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Speaker 5: back to is that when you talk about the health

514
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 5: of the league, there's been great vision on where the

515
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Speaker 5: game is going and how can we help the game

516
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Speaker 5: become better, how can we make it more accessible? And

517
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Speaker 5: that has been in line with us from a Texan standpoint.

518
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Speaker 5: As you know, we have been focused in on making

519
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Speaker 5: football accessible. We have been focused in on She's next,

520
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Speaker 5: how do we get Flag out to the market, and

521
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Speaker 5: so we've been driving it. And when you get to

522
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Speaker 5: this place where it's almost as you kind of put together,

523
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Speaker 5: it's like an inflection point where you get to this

524
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Speaker 5: place where there's so much momentum. You know, you have,

525
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Speaker 5: as you mentioned team USA playing against the pros, you

526
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Speaker 5: have the Olympics coming up, you have a real focus

527
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Speaker 5: on flag overall. Certainly at the Toro district, you have

528
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Speaker 5: all these pieces coming together. It's like it is like

529
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Speaker 5: we're about to jump off the trampoline, and so we've

530
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Speaker 5: been prepping to get there, and it's an exciting moment

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Speaker 5: to kind of see all this come together.

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Speaker 1: How about the league partnering and starting a flag football

533
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Speaker 1: pro League in addition to everything else, and what that

534
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Speaker 1: means for all thirty two teams I read that are

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Speaker 1: involved in some way, shape or form. I'm sure this

536
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Speaker 1: is in the embryonic stagees Mike, but you think of

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Speaker 1: that moving forward.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think one of the most important

539
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Speaker 5: things for the health of the game is making it accessible.

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Speaker 5: And one of the things that helps participation is when

541
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Speaker 5: people can see the verticality of it. Can you see

542
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Speaker 5: a path? Can I see a path from youth to

543
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Speaker 5: high school to college to the pros.

544
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Speaker 6: To the Olympics.

545
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Speaker 5: And this is a key piece to that, you know,

546
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Speaker 5: and it makes all the sense in the world, right,

547
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Speaker 5: you know, when you think about our position with the

548
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 5: game in the world, of course we should drive pro flag.

549
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Speaker 5: It just makes a ton of sense. So we're really excited,

550
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Speaker 5: you know, we we've really been participating. Hannah has been

551
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Speaker 5: a key driver in these discussions on the flag front

552
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Speaker 5: and so to see all this coming together, it's a

553
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Speaker 5: special time right now.

554
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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you this.

555
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Speaker 1: When you're at a game at NRG Stadium, all right,

556
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Speaker 1: I know that you have to talk to a lot

557
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Speaker 1: of people. You're the team president, so everyone wants to

558
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Speaker 1: talk to you. How hard is it to sometimes watch

559
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Speaker 1: the game, Mike, and have you missed some key moments?

560
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Speaker 2: Wait?

561
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Speaker 1: I missed that moment at the end of the first half.

562
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Speaker 1: My goodness, having a conversation. But they're all important.

563
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Speaker 2: I get it. Our partners or whoever else is involved.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think anytime, you know, we look

565
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Speaker 5: at NRG as our home, and anytime you can spend

566
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Speaker 5: time with good friends and partners in your home, you

567
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Speaker 5: want to do that, and so I enjoy every second

568
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Speaker 5: of it. Now that being said, when we go away

569
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Speaker 5: on the road, I do get to lock in, lock

570
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Speaker 5: it more and watch more.

571
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Speaker 6: Of the game.

572
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Speaker 5: But you know, being on the field before to support

573
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Speaker 5: the players and coach and overall team is important. And

574
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Speaker 5: then that also affords me the opportunity to when we're

575
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Speaker 5: you know, wherever in the stadium, to really lock in

576
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Speaker 5: with our partners as well.

577
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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite moment or two from last season,

578
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Speaker 1: anything you can point to that stands out to you.

579
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Speaker 1: It's probably on the road, I would imagine where you

580
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Speaker 1: can lock in, like Pittsburgh or maybe Kansas City on

581
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Speaker 1: the road or one of those.

582
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Speaker 5: I don't know, you know, I think I think they're

583
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Speaker 5: maybe not a specific game, but there are time periods.

584
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Speaker 5: As you know, we started off in you know, we

585
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 5: didn't expect to start owing three. Yeah, but the way

586
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 5: that you know, through coaches, leadership, through the locker room,

587
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 5: certainly Kyle's steady hand, the way that the team fought

588
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 5: through that and that togetherness, that's a special thing. And

589
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 5: I think that's one of the things that we're really

590
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 5: excited about for next year is certainly the leadership of

591
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Speaker 5: coach and Nick and Kyle and the overall org all

592
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 5: the way through the locker room. You know, when it's tested,

593
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 5: there's a different level of confidence, and that was that

594
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 5: was a really special thing to be.

595
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Speaker 6: A part of.

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Speaker 1: All Right, one more, we have eight home games schedule

597
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: being ounced sometime in early May, sometime around there. They

598
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: never really give us the date, which is I have

599
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: a whole other opinion on that, but at some point

600
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: we're going to go international again. The Texans last played

601
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: internationally in twenty nineteen, so at some point it's going

602
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: to happen again. There are nine games in the league

603
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Speaker 1: that are overseas on foreign soil. How big is this

604
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: for the NFL? The international effort is bigger than ever

605
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: and how important is that for the league globally?

606
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Speaker 5: It's significant, I think if you look at the investment

607
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 5: that we've made internationally and the fact that at this

608
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 5: point it is really starting to show returns, returns and

609
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 5: fandom returns financially and a comfortability of teams playing over there.

610
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Speaker 5: At this stage, you know, we've had we have teams

611
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 5: who have actually spent back to back weekends over there

612
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 5: on the schedule, and so there are so many positives

613
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 5: on that side. And when you think about the growth

614
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 5: of the game, that's a key piece to it. It's

615
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 5: like it's about your addressable market, and the larger we

616
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 5: can make that, the better off it will be, the

617
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 5: stronger the game will be in all aspects, and so

618
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 5: it's a real focus. You know, we're looking to grow

619
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Speaker 5: it to sixteen games in over the next couple of

620
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 5: years over there, and from a Houston perspective, you know,

621
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Speaker 5: we have such a great city. We talk about the

622
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: stage all the time. We're one of the very unique cities,

623
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Speaker 5: one of the very special teams that has a truly

624
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 5: international city. When you look at the diversity, the ethnicity,

625
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 5: and the breakup of Greater Houston, it makes all the

626
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 5: sense in the world for us to participate on that stage,

627
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 5: and not even participate, help drive it. So we're excited

628
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 5: that the game's going global.

629
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Speaker 2: Cool. Mike, thanks a lot for joining us, appreciate it.

630
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Speaker 6: Thank you.

631
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 4: Mark.

632
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: All right, there's our talk with Mike Tolman, and again

633
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: all this stuff is going to be on in the

634
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: Odyssey app in podcast form right when the show is over,

635
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: or Spotify in Houston Texans dot com a little bit

636
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: later on. And next up, let's talk about the NFSE East.

637
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: The Texans are playing the whole division, including but not

638
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: limited to the Philadelphia Eagles in Philly, So let's catch

639
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: up with Dave Zangaro next. Here he covers that team

640
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: and used to cover the Texans, so good perspective from

641
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: him that is coming up here on Texans All Access.

642
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: Our final segment of the night takes us to Philadelphia,

643
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: not literally, because we are year. Still at the NFL

644
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: annual meeting in Phoenix, but a lot of people here

645
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: from around the country covering their teams and covering the league.

646
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: One of them Dave's Angarro, friend of ours who used

647
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: to work for Comcast Sports what they call it, Houston Southwest.

648
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

649
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: They had the Astros, they had the Rockets, and they

650
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: did extensive sports coverage of the Houston teams. James Palmer

651
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: worked for them and Dave's and Garo as well. Then

652
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: he went back to his native Philadelphia to cover the Eagles,

653
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: so we decided to catch up with him. The Texans

654
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: have the Eagles on the schedule at Philly this year.

655
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: Schedule comes out in relatively early May, so let's catch

656
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: up with Dave's Angaro. How many years have you been

657
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: out of Houston, because you were with the Comcast Sports

658
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: Net right in Houston.

659
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Speaker 7: Yeah, we left in twenty fourteen, so twelve years now.

660
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Speaker 2: Geez pretty well. And how many years were you covering

661
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: the Texans?

662
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 7: Dave two years, parts of three seasons, so I was there.

663
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 7: I got there in twelve for that run right then

664
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Speaker 7: was there for thirteen which was a rough year? Yeah,

665
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 7: rough year, rough year there was the two.

666
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Wins and then yeah, that was the rest of it,

667
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: thirteen losses.

668
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 7: And then I was there for the beginning of the

669
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Speaker 7: ob era.

670
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Speaker 2: That is amazing.

671
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: That's a I was going to say a cool three

672
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: year stretch, but it is an interesting three year stretch.

673
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: You learned a lot during that three year stretch.

674
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's funny though, because there were so many great

675
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 7: players on that team that like, it was good for

676
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 7: a while, but yeah, then it bought out a little bit.

677
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 7: But covered JJ his prime, covered Andre when he still

678
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 7: was playing at a really high level. Air In was

679
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 7: really good. Then Cushing was a wild man. Like it was.

680
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 7: It was a fun team to cover.

681
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: It's interesting because when O'Brien takes over, yeah, he takes

682
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: over two and fourteen team.

683
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: But you have Andre Sjohnson, J. J.

684
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: Watt, you have Cushing, you have Owen Daniels still, you

685
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: have players like that, You had Chris Meyers on the lot,

686
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: you had Dwayne Brown. You had a lot of things

687
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: going for you. So the fact that he got it

688
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: to nine wins impressive. Yet it's not impossible, clearly.

689
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I remember that that bad year, it was

690
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 7: like you just felt like they're gonna go to win

691
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 7: something like it's it's kind and it just never happened.

692
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it was a nutty year.

693
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: And then you go to Philadelphia, so you've been through

694
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: a few eras in Philadelphia as well.

695
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 7: Sure I got there at the end. So I'm from Philly,

696
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 7: so I covered a little bit of Andy Reid before

697
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 7: I went to Houston. So that's actually how I know Dimiko.

698
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 7: Dimiko got to Philly in twelve, right, I met him

699
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 7: there and then shortly after I went to Houston. So

700
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 7: I've known Dimiko for a really long time. Uh So

701
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 7: I covered a little bit Andy, and then I got

702
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 7: back and it was Chip's final year, so that was

703
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 7: you know, a lot, then all of Doug Peterson era

704
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 7: and now five years of Nick Sirianni.

705
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm surprised Doug Peterson didn't work twice, meaning you have

706
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: success obviously in Philadelphia, the ultimate success, then not so

707
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: much in Jacksonville. Turned it around very quickly, got the division,

708
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: won a playoff game, and then slides out of it.

709
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: And what's he doing now.

710
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 7: Golfing and I think he's really enjoying it. There's some

711
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 7: of those people who, like, you know, there are lifers

712
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 7: who are gonna coach into the wheels fall off, and

713
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 7: then I think there are people who get a little

714
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 7: burnout and need at least a break, and maybe they

715
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 7: don't go back to it. I think Doug's in that category.

716
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: Did you see the Philly Special documentary I did?

717
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 7: It was very well done.

718
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you liked it?

719
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know it's funny. Once that came out,

720
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 7: I went back and found my the story that I

721
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 7: wrote that night in Minneapolis, and I remember like divving

722
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 7: up story. That was a wild super Bowl. So we're

723
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 7: like divvying up stories between me and my beat partner,

724
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 7: and I had the Trick Play because at that time

725
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 7: we didn't know what it was called. Oh I'm going

726
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 7: to work on or write about the Trick Play. So

727
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 7: like finding out about like what's the name and where

728
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 7: do they come from? Like that was all really fun.

729
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 7: So then it's it's cool to be like a part

730
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 7: of a play that's going to be famous for a

731
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Speaker 7: really long time.

732
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's one of the most famous

733
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: plays in NFL history. Now, I mean on the shore list.

734
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: Dave Sengaro joining us from NBC Sports Philadelphia. So I

735
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: think I defined the Eagles as an elite NFL organization,

736
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think there are too many that can

737
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: claim that because I think you need multiple championships relatively

738
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: recently to claim that.

739
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: Am I right?

740
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 4: Yeah?

741
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 7: I think that's fair. And it's more than that. It's

742
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 7: like if you no, I think back to like the

743
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 7: Giants when they did it, I don't even think they

744
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 7: were elite because they did it in like one spurt, yeah,

745
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 7: down and then one spurt where it's like, I think

746
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 7: to be an elite organization you have to at least

747
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 7: be in the hunt multiple years for an extending period

748
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 7: of time. And like, so you look at the five

749
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 7: years under Sirianni, they've been the two super Bowls, but

750
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 7: then the other three years they have gotten out in

751
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 7: the in the wildcard round.

752
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: So they've been to the playoffs all two years. Yes, yes,

753
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: And I think that that says something.

754
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: Right.

755
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: You know, if you don't get to the playoffs, clearly

756
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: you've got issues. You get to the playoffs, and I

757
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: know in Philadelphia that's unacceptable to lose in a while

758
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: card round.

759
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 7: Well, once you start, you set the standard, it's like, yeah,

760
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 7: the expectations are raised a little.

761
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: Bit, isn't that interesting though, around the league where you

762
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: have a lot of teams. I was talking to another reporter,

763
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: Dan Liberfeld, and he said that it's interesting how when

764
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: you're the head coach of a team like Buffalo, like

765
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: Joe Brady, there you are, the bar is very high

766
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: and you're the rookie head coach, so good luck. Don't

767
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: just get to the wildcard round. Whereas if you take

768
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: over a team like Arizona, you get to the playoffs.

769
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Speaker 1: That's something they're gonna throw a parade for you.

770
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: Maybe.

771
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's all about expectations, and I think sometimes the

772
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 7: city sets those too. It's not just looking at a roster,

773
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 7: you know. It's like a fan base gets accustomed to

774
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 7: a level of play and if you don't look to it,

775
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 7: and then it's a problem.

776
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: Daves Andngaro joining us. So, Dave, how good are the

777
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: Eagles going to be this year? Have they solved their problems?

778
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: I'll put that in the air quotes. Yeah, I don't know.

779
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 7: That's to be seen because they have a new offensive

780
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 7: coordinator who's bringing in a new scheme and a thirty

781
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 7: three year old offensive coordinator who's been coaching two years

782
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 7: in Shawn Manning. So it was like an ultimate big

783
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 7: swing move for them to hire a coach they think

784
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 7: is still a sending who can bring in a Shanahan's

785
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 7: style offense to that building, which is what they needed

786
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 7: because they were far too talented on offense last year

787
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 7: to put out what they did.

788
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

789
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 7: So, and they're kind of locked into a lot of

790
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 7: their players, so that change couldn't come from the personnel.

791
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 7: It had to come from somewhere else. So they're making

792
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 7: that change with the scheme and with the coordinator and

793
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 7: the play caller. I still think they're talented. They had

794
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 7: some injuries up front on the offensive line, and that's

795
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 7: kind of been their bread and butter for so many years,

796
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 7: is you know, you have really good play in the trenches.

797
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 7: They didn't have that last year. So I think a

798
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 7: lot of that's like, can those guys get healthy. If

799
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 7: they can't, they're not going to be better. They need

800
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 7: to be.

801
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: Healthy, right The Texans are going to be there this year.

802
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, he's from Houston. What's the relationship like between

803
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: Hurts and the city of Phillyladelphia.

804
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 7: It's an interesting one. For whatever reason, he's like a

805
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 7: really polarizing person in the NFL World. I think Philadelphia

806
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 7: likes him more than obviously other places because he won

807
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 7: a super Bowl there. But he's always been a lightning

808
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 7: rod player, and it's kind of hard to figure out why.

809
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 7: I think maybe it's a style of play. I think

810
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 7: it is because he has a unique personality, which he

811
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 7: doesn't have the personality you think of when you hear

812
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 7: a unique personality, you think of like eccentric. He's not that.

813
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 7: He's very introspective and as a kind of a cool,

814
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 7: suave persona, I would say, And I think sometimes he

815
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 7: rubs people the wrong way because of that. But yeah,

816
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 7: I mean he's He's liked in Philly because he brought

817
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 7: a parade down Broad Street, you.

818
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, which is which is valuable, no question about it.

819
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: Same question Andy Reid. Now, how do they look back

820
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: on the Andy Reid era in Philadelphia?

821
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, it took a little while, I think for people

822
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 7: to really appreciate what he did there because it didn't

823
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 7: end well. And when it ended, you're looking at it

824
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 7: and going, well, was that a success? They didn't win

825
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 7: it all? Yeah, It's like it was a long period

826
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 7: of time where they were in the hunt for so

827
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 7: many seasons and then underperformed in some really big moments

828
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 7: and that's part of the legacy there, unfortunately for him.

829
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 7: But as time goes on, I think put more people

830
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 7: really and they've won two Super Bowls since then, so

831
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 7: that takes some of the sting off. I think that

832
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 7: softened everyone.

833
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: Now you can look back fondly.

834
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so. And he's got a likable guy,

835
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 7: you know. And I think now people are at the

836
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 7: people who were fans of those teams are a little

837
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 7: bit older, and they have the there's some nostalgia thinking

838
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 7: about Donovan McNabb and Brian Westbrook and some of those players,

839
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 7: Brian Dawkins of course, so time softens the edges a

840
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 7: little bit.

841
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: So who's the most popular quarterback in the history of

842
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: Philadelphia all time?

843
00:38:58,719 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 7: Nick Foles.

844
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: Nick Foles is the most popular.

845
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 7: I would say so. I mean Jalen's close, right. It's

846
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 7: a little tough because Jalen is still playing, but I

847
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 7: mean Nick's kind of like a folk hero in Philly.

848
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 7: It's going to be tough to top it because.

849
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: Well we have TJ. Yates and I think foll TJ.

850
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: Yates on steroids because he won the Super Bowl. But

851
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: Yates did some great things for the Texans relative to

852
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: the Texans organization and the youth of the organization.

853
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 7: So that's back to expectations though, right, Like, if you're

854
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 7: expected to do all these things and you do it, great,

855
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 7: But if you're not expected to and you do it,

856
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 7: you're going to be beloved, And that's kind of nick

857
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 7: And of course, like Philly Special, right, you think about

858
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 7: like him welcome to this iconic moment, the first super

859
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 7: Bowl and a city that wanted it so bad for

860
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 7: so long. Yeah, he's he's a folk hero.

861
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: What kind of cautionary tale? I don't want to load

862
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: the question too much is Carson Wentz because watching that

863
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: Philly Special doc, I think it reminded a lot of people,

864
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: including me, how good Wentz was that year before he

865
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: went out.

866
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: He was on fire and he's never really been able

867
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: to recapture that.

868
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's I don't even know if it's a cautionary

869
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 7: tale because I don't think they would have done anything

870
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 7: differently in terms of like the contract or any of that.

871
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 7: I think maybe they would have tried to manage the

872
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 7: interpersonal stuff a little bit better. But I also think

873
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 7: he was a young player at the time who had

874
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 7: some emotions about losing his opportunity to play, and it

875
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 7: was tough on him, you know, it was. It's still

876
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Speaker 7: tough on him. You ask him right now, like how

877
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Speaker 7: do you feel about that? And I think he's probably

878
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Speaker 7: still conflicted because he was playing at an MVP level

879
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 7: and then he had to watch his backup finish it off.

880
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 7: I think that's a tough deal. And I you know,

881
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 7: there were other players hurt that year who handled it

882
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 7: better than he did, and it did it caused a

883
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Speaker 7: little bit of an issue in the locker room in

884
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Speaker 7: the building. I think he looks back at a little

885
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 7: bit differently now he's older, he's experienced a lot. But yeah,

886
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Speaker 7: I mean, you're right. You look back he was so good.

887
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Speaker 7: He was the MVP League. He really was. He was

888
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 7: playing at that level and they they really thought he

889
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Speaker 7: was gonna get back to it.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I.

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Speaker 7: Think physically he was never the same. Yeah, excuse me

892
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Speaker 7: after the a CL and the l CL, but he

893
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 7: still tried to play like he was and he doesn't

894
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 7: have that athleticism anymore.

895
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Speaker 1: It's interesting because Foles had that killer season with Andy

896
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: Reid and then it didn't happen for him long term

897
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,959
Speaker 1: and then he comes back and you know the rest

898
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Speaker 1: of the story. It's a fascinating place quarterback wise. I

899
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Speaker 1: remember the Jeff Garcia playoff run as well.

900
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Speaker 7: There's no city that loves the backup more than Philadelphia.

901
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: So you McNabb is not even in the conversation. Uh,

902
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Speaker 1: Joe Worski's ahead of McNabb in this, in this popularity contest.

903
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, don't don't forget Randall Cunningham either. Yeah, right, yeah,

904
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 7: McNabb he was. I think people are starting to realize, like, yeah,

905
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 7: he was really good. He was really good for a

906
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Speaker 7: long time. His personality rub people the wrong way at times,

907
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 7: like aloof a little bit. Maybe wasn't the pro typical

908
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 7: leader as a quarterback, but I mean he was an

909
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 7: excellent player. I think people forget how good he was

910
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Speaker 7: for a really long stretch of time.

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Speaker 2: Excellent stuff.

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Speaker 1: Dave san Carlo joining us a couple more for you here.

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Speaker 1: Texans are playing the whole NFC East this year? Is

914
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: Washington back this year? In your opinion, who's the biggest

915
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: threat to the Eagles.

916
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 7: I think it's the Cowboys. I think the Cowboys are

917
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 7: still the best talent wise team after the Eagles but

918
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 7: I think the Giants gonna be better. Okay, once he

919
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 7: get Harball in there, he's gonna at least get them steady.

920
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 7: I don't know if they're gonna be a good team.

921
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 7: I don't know the talent on the roster would be

922
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 7: a good team, but I think he'll get them to

923
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Speaker 7: some sort of base level where they're going to be competitive.

924
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 7: And then really in New York, it's about Jackson Dart.

925
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 7: I think he's good. Can you stay healthy with his

926
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 7: play style? I don't know the answer to that. And

927
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Speaker 7: then a little bit in Washington too, it's like, is

928
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 7: Jayden Daniels gonna be healthy? Is he going to be

929
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 7: the guy we all think he is? You know, I

930
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 7: don't know the answer to that. Yeah, I thought they

931
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 7: had a really weird offseason last year. In Washington, they

932
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 7: just basically signed a bunch of old guys, which is

933
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 7: not you know, it's not a few, but when you're

934
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 7: banking on older players staying healthy, it's probably not going

935
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Speaker 7: to work out.

936
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Speaker 1: Well, you got a draft, well, in this league, no question,

937
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: you can sign who you want, but you got to draft.

938
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Speaker 7: Well, that's what the best team's doing, and that's kind

939
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 7: of what the Eagles have tried to do Every team

940
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 7: tries to do it, obviously, but they've hit on so

941
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 7: many of their draft picks. I think it's the last

942
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 7: four years ish, they're fifteen first through three round draft picks.

943
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 7: Fourteen of them have become starters. Like that's how you build,

944
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 7: and then you prioritize, so they can't. They're in a

945
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 7: situation now where on defense they have so many cheap

946
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 7: guys who are going to be eligible for contracts and

947
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 7: they just can't pay them all, which is why read

948
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 7: blanket ship ends up in Houston.

949
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: What are they getting?

950
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 7: And Read good solid player. I don't know if he'll

951
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 7: ever be an All Pro right, but he is a

952
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 7: good piece to have on a team. Excellent leader, a

953
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 7: hard worker, really what respected in the locker room. Became

954
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 7: a captain his last year in Philly. And such a

955
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 7: cool story too because when he got to Philly it

956
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 7: was the was year twenty two. I think it was

957
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 7: his first year in Philly, undrafted out of Middle Tennessee State.

958
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 7: The Eagles that year signed thirteen undrafted free agents. He

959
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 7: was twelve in terms of guaranteed money. Wow, so he

960
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 7: was he was like the longest of long shots where

961
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 7: he wore number forty six that training camp, so like

962
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 7: he had no business being in the NFL based on

963
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,479
Speaker 7: all of that, but then you watched him play and

964
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 7: it was and he had such a good career Middle

965
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 7: Tennessee State. I think people thought that maybe there was

966
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 7: a limited ceiling, but I think he had like five

967
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 7: hundred tackles in his career in college. And then I

968
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 7: mean it was apparent from day one in Philly like, Okay,

969
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 7: there's something here. We don't know he's gonna be a starter,

970
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 7: but we're gonna make the team. And he made the team,

971
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 7: became a special teams contributor, spot starter and then and

972
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 7: a full time starter and has some ball skills. You know,

973
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 7: maybe is not the most athletic guy, but has good

974
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 7: instincts and a lot of times the instincts make up

975
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 7: for a lack of athleticism.

976
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Speaker 2: One more so, do I get an award for not

977
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Speaker 2: asking you an aj Brown question? Up until now? Is

978
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Speaker 2: that the biggest story here for everybody covering the Eagles.

979
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it is, and it's it's yeah, it's not

980
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 7: going away either, just by the nature of the situation

981
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 7: and also the cap implications of a trade before June

982
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 7: first and after June first, right, it would be more

983
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 7: palatable to make that trade after June first, So unless

984
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 7: they get a trade package before then, that like really

985
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 7: blows them away. I think it's going to linger, and yeah,

986
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 7: it's it kind of feels like world being held hostage

987
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 7: in Philly by the situation is the fan base in

988
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 7: Philapia is kind of tuning it out at this point

989
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 7: because either it tell us when the trade gets made,

990
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 7: and I get that there's there's definitely some fatigue about it,

991
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 7: and I think some fans are really upset because he's

992
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 7: a great player and they don't want to see him leave.

993
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 7: But I still think there's a really good possibility that happens.

994
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: Dave, thanks a lot for joining us.

995
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 7: Of course, it's good to talk to you.

996
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Speaker 1: There's our friend Dave z Angaro from NBC Sports Philadelphia,

997
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Speaker 1: and we'll have more of that conversation maybe later on

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Speaker 1: in the week, but let's do this. Remind you that

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Speaker 1: tomorrow we have the mcnairs on the show. We'll have

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Speaker 1: Stephenholder of ESPN dot com, Jim Wyatt of Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 1: dot Com, and a whole lot of other stuff coming

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