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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tamika D.

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<v Speaker 2>Mallory and the Ship Boy my Son in general.

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<v Speaker 1>We are your host of t M I.

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<v Speaker 3>Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and.

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<v Speaker 4>Inspiration, New Energy. I'm good, I'm good. I'm a little

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's been it is, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I'm Black History.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, everything we've we've been talking about all month

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<v Speaker 4>is about black people, but we certainly need to kind

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<v Speaker 4>of focus on Black History Month.

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<v Speaker 1>And like the I guess the what do we call.

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<v Speaker 4>It, the observance, that's the word.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the observance of it all.

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<v Speaker 4>So we haven't really been able to get to that

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<v Speaker 4>because the country is very, very very different. Interesting, It's

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<v Speaker 4>not so much it is different different.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I struggle with saying that it's different. I think that

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<v Speaker 4>it is worse.

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<v Speaker 2>So if it's worse, it different.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess so, But I still think it was

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<v Speaker 4>pretty bad already. I mean, I just don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I just feel like we've got to be coming to

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<v Speaker 4>a crashing halt because we're in the we're in a

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<v Speaker 4>we're in when a woman is across the world in

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<v Speaker 4>Pakistan talking about running my money, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know, but she has now made her

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<v Speaker 4>way to every outlet at least all the blogs are

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<v Speaker 4>covering it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think the quote unquote mainstream media is covering it.

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<v Speaker 4>But this woman, it's in my DMS. People send it

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<v Speaker 4>to me like what is going on? But somebody sent

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<v Speaker 4>me something which I don't know if it was her,

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, first Ai, second of all, the way

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<v Speaker 4>that it was positioned, because now other people are creating

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<v Speaker 4>like parodies to this thing and making skits. But it

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<v Speaker 4>looked like a person who looks like her was counting

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<v Speaker 4>money if they paid that late, because it seemed to

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<v Speaker 4>me like there were Pakistani.

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<v Speaker 1>People.

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<v Speaker 2>Know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's no way that folks don't know that the lady

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<v Speaker 4>thought or she met somebody I believe online and he

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<v Speaker 4>must have professed his love for her and told her

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<v Speaker 4>he was going to marry her. And then somehow I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if he invited her or what happened. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure he found out she had little mental health, and

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<v Speaker 4>then he might have a little mental health too. And

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<v Speaker 4>then she traveled from wherever sounds like the USA because

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<v Speaker 4>she sound black as black, and took herself over there

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<v Speaker 4>to Pakistan and talking about she wants her money and

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<v Speaker 4>she's not leaving until she gets her land, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>really a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing about it is that I said Pakistan Pakistanians.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>That is something I need to figure out. How do

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<v Speaker 4>you say the people versus the place? Is it Pakistanians?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, right?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so you would just say Pakistanians. Okay, So the

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<v Speaker 4>Pakistanian people, some of them seem to be entertaining them.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave's having press conferences. People must be bored, hilarious, people must.

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<v Speaker 2>Be and she is.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying now she had to tell people that she's raising

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<v Speaker 3>money so they could send her home. She told people

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<v Speaker 3>to send her money.

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<v Speaker 4>Seemed like she had some If it's her that I

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<v Speaker 4>saw in this, she definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>Raised money, Ain't no question about that. You know, the

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<v Speaker 3>internet love to just give money to crazy people.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, anyway, by the time people see this sho, there

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<v Speaker 4>would have been some updates and I will probably be late,

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<v Speaker 4>like this will probably be old give So that's why

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, like, what like every day the world just

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<v Speaker 4>proves how much crazier it can actually get. So I

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<v Speaker 4>guess it's different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely different.

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<v Speaker 4>You're like, I think I was the person, the first

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<v Speaker 4>person to send it to you, because Tiffany Laughton sent

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<v Speaker 4>it to me in the middle of the night. She

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<v Speaker 4>sends me like five videos and she's screaming like, this

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<v Speaker 4>is the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I just kept seeing it and seeing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Then that's why I said, let me send it to you,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know whoever else is in our little group.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I sent it to Linda and she just is

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<v Speaker 4>like this this world.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the lady she has his job on.

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<v Speaker 4>She was wearing a hi job, but she had it

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<v Speaker 4>tied like some kind of bothing on this. So I

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<v Speaker 4>just have never seen them wear they're jobs like this.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just it's different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's different. It's different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very very very much. It is extremely different.

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<v Speaker 4>It is black history, mom, and was She's a part

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<v Speaker 4>of black history.

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<v Speaker 1>And there people listen, this is the last thing I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say about this.

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<v Speaker 4>I've also watched the commentary of a few people who

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<v Speaker 4>are like, bruh, I don't you know. I would never

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<v Speaker 4>do it. It's comical. But the lady is on business.

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<v Speaker 4>She over there, like I needy't to round me my

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<v Speaker 4>land and my money, and if you want me to leave,

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<v Speaker 4>you gotta pay for me to leave, because I came

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<v Speaker 4>over here to marry my husband. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>the husband would have been like nineteen years old and

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<v Speaker 4>she's thirty three. Like if that lady, don't go somewhere

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<v Speaker 4>and sit her ass down anyway, what else is up

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<v Speaker 4>her history?

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<v Speaker 3>So look, there's a meme that's been going around for

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years, and I know I seen it

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday again and it's a reporter talking to I believe

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<v Speaker 3>it's Morgan Freeman, and they talking about black history mon

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<v Speaker 3>and Morgan Freeman says to him, I don't want black history.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, why should my history be relegated to one month?

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<v Speaker 3>Your history is not relegated to one month, So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want it. Don't give me no one month of

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<v Speaker 3>my history. And when I thought about it, I understood

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<v Speaker 3>his point of view. But then I was like, but

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<v Speaker 3>we live in America, right in the reality of America

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<v Speaker 3>is that they don't celebrate black.

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<v Speaker 2>History, they don't talk about our history.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't give us the opportunity to actually hone in

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<v Speaker 3>on the great you know, accomplishes, accomplishments and feats that

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<v Speaker 3>our ancestors have made.

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<v Speaker 1>And I kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoyed Black history one. Look, I get to throw on

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<v Speaker 2>my stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I get to get yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean I get I need to get I get to

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<v Speaker 3>get into it. And you know, I was thinking, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you think about it? Do you think that it's

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<v Speaker 3>a bad thing that they give us black heresy is?

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make it seem like our history is less because.

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<v Speaker 4>Of or I mean, we do get the short this month,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, and I do understand people who say that,

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<v Speaker 4>but I also feel like observances are exactly what they are.

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<v Speaker 1>They're observances.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, you don't have President's Day being celebrated

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<v Speaker 4>every day.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a day that.

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<v Speaker 4>Is specified for you to focus on presidents, veterans, people you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know who who what do you call it? Memorial?

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<v Speaker 4>Memorial Day is for people who have died in war

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<v Speaker 4>and what have you and you know, and also other

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<v Speaker 4>I think they have kind of expanded it. I know

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<v Speaker 4>we have expanded it to also acknowledging people who are service.

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<v Speaker 1>Workers, people who are you know, who take care of folks.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I mean, I you know, everything has its

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<v Speaker 4>time and I think that that one entire month we

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<v Speaker 4>should really take as much advantage of it as possible,

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<v Speaker 4>especially now when we see there is a attack on

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<v Speaker 4>our history, there's an attack on anything that has to

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<v Speaker 4>do with you know, forcing the world to sit still

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<v Speaker 4>and have to look at, as you said, the accomplishments

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<v Speaker 4>and the fights that we have fought and won. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's been a lot that we've contributed to society, and

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<v Speaker 4>if it were not for the fact that there is

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<v Speaker 4>this time that's been set aside, you know, people probably

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't hear much about us at all. So I see,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I see, I'm not saying that I don't

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<v Speaker 4>understand how once they put it in February, which happens

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<v Speaker 4>to be the shortest month of the year, then after

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<v Speaker 4>that they may say, well, they don't want to hear

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<v Speaker 4>about it again. But then that's not true because the

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<v Speaker 4>next thing, you know, you got doctor King. Well before

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<v Speaker 4>then you have you know, doctor King's birthday that comes up,

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<v Speaker 4>and I feel like people celebrate doctor King's birthday for

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<v Speaker 4>the entire month January. You know, I hear at least

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<v Speaker 4>at least beginning around the fifteenth, when his actual birthday

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<v Speaker 4>takes place, then they go all the way and then it.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes all the accomplishments.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you know, well, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I pretty much agree with what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I just when I heard it again, it made me think.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just the time that we end, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just every time I think about, like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>the d and what we're going through with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Government and diversity, equity and inclusion.

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<v Speaker 3>Diversity, equity and inclusion, you know, and what we're going through,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like you said, how they're trying to pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much erase our history and to have this month is

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<v Speaker 3>very much important at this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think before they're getting rid of shit left and.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and they still don't want this even they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Even want the government right, Like it's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>An education, which is the other big So they.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't want kids we must celebrated within education either.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't want like remember critical race theory and all

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<v Speaker 4>of that. They want they don't want you to isolate

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<v Speaker 4>and celebrate any particular holidays except for things that have

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<v Speaker 4>to do with white men. I mean seriously, like it's

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<v Speaker 4>just that's what it is. They're saying that they are

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<v Speaker 4>going to especially, as you said, for the federal government,

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<v Speaker 4>which the Department of Education is a part of the

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<v Speaker 4>federal government. Right, they want to end the celebration of

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<v Speaker 4>any particular group.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the only way to describe it is just

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<v Speaker 4>to look at the fact that, like the shrides that

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<v Speaker 4>people have made, that's not just black folks. Like I

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<v Speaker 4>think about the Muslim community and how in New York

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<v Speaker 4>the Muslims didn't even have certain days observances for public schools,

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<v Speaker 4>and they fought and fought and fought, and I remember

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<v Speaker 4>when they won, and it was under Deblasio that these

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<v Speaker 4>days became law, like they became chartered in New York

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<v Speaker 4>State and in New York City, I know for sure,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know about the state. And now there's like

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<v Speaker 4>two or three dates on the calendar that that everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>not just Muslim students of course, but everybody is off

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<v Speaker 4>because they are observing these particular days. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I say all of that to say a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people have fought to ensure that we live in an

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<v Speaker 4>inclusive society where everybody can be celebrated, and these.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks just don't want to do it anymore. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know it, You have to do it. Well. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's strange.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that they're actually sticking true to their uh,

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<v Speaker 4>their their their existence.

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<v Speaker 3>Their beginning to me is this, how do you think

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<v Speaker 3>that that is going to work? Right, because you've people

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<v Speaker 3>have gotten used to celebrating and being acknowledged and seeing

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<v Speaker 3>themselves and being themselves and coming.

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<v Speaker 4>To you know, I think what they're saying is you

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<v Speaker 4>can celebrate it all you want, but it won't be

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<v Speaker 4>But that's paid.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the first step of it, right, because what you

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<v Speaker 3>do is you take you pretty much take the.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowledge president in February to so President's Day.

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<v Speaker 4>So they still going to take some of our stuff

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<v Speaker 4>too in the month in the same Black History Month.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. I never put that in the contest.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what I'm saying, Like, if you look at

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<v Speaker 3>if you look at most of the holidays that they're

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<v Speaker 3>a black I mean they are white holidays that celebrate, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they celebrate their their accomplishments.

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<v Speaker 1>They still celebrate in that Columbus Day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So these are these are things that I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So so they think that's just gonna work. You just

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<v Speaker 3>gonna erase the rest of the people here. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>take back the Hollids and.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna do That's all I want to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you what my thought of the day.

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<v Speaker 4>What Actually, it's not my thought of the day, but

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<v Speaker 4>I could make it my thought of the day for today,

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<v Speaker 4>since we are short for time before we have our guests,

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<v Speaker 4>our Black History Month guest, because we focused on Black

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<v Speaker 4>History Month today and not these people politics. Let me

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<v Speaker 4>tell you that we are all, every single one of

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<v Speaker 4>us hypocritical beings. I was listening to Angela Rode talking

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<v Speaker 4>about this on their podcast, Native Lamp Pod, and it's true.

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<v Speaker 4>She was talking about Snoop and his performance at the

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<v Speaker 4>Crypto Ball, and she was, you know, literally saying like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd rather call my brother on the phone to tell

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<v Speaker 4>him how I feel directly, And she was acknowledging that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there are people who probably will feel like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you're being hypocritical, because if it was somebody that you

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<v Speaker 4>don't really have a relationship with or whatever, you would

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<v Speaker 4>just say whatever. And I think that's true. I would

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<v Speaker 4>hope that if you're brother sister did something that you

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't go to the Internet to tell the world about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would hope.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, hey, some people say what's good for

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<v Speaker 4>the goose is good for again if they if they

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<v Speaker 4>don't like whoever on the internet, and they don't like

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<v Speaker 4>they mama and they sister, they brothers and cousins, they

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<v Speaker 4>go right on to the Facebook and write it up

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<v Speaker 4>there too. I mean, I guess that's but I understand

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<v Speaker 4>both sides. But I wanted to say that we certainly

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<v Speaker 4>are and we live in contradiction all the time. Like

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<v Speaker 4>hypocritical is probably a negative connotation to that word, so

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't necessarily use it, but I just want to,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, state it in a way that most people

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<v Speaker 4>can understand. But I think the the conflicts, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and the complications of life, because I was somewhere a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of evenings ago, and you know, I am, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think you are like this too, which it took

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<v Speaker 4>you some time to get there. So let me put

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<v Speaker 4>your business in the street. But I just don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to hear r Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't. That's not on my car.

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<v Speaker 4>My family members know not to play it at holidays,

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<v Speaker 4>and in fact, it is starting to become something that

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<v Speaker 4>I see less and less and less and less that's

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<v Speaker 4>just I don't. I'm it's at the point now where

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<v Speaker 4>no one has to tell the DJ at a.

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<v Speaker 1>Family event or whatever. They just they're just not doing

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<v Speaker 1>it anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>But the other day, I was wherever I was, somewhere anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>restaurant at night, late at night, and they started playing

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<v Speaker 4>some good old R Kelly songs.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I'm just so sorry, like I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot.

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<v Speaker 4>I totally forgot. I wasn't even drinking. I totally forgot.

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<v Speaker 4>And the next thing you know, I was just sitting

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<v Speaker 4>up there man in here wish and I was just

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<v Speaker 4>all into it. And I was sitting there thinking to myself, Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>we have to have a lot of grace for one another.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to have a lot of grace for one another, because.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not it's very hard, you know, for people to

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<v Speaker 3>ignore the music and contributions that R Kelly has made.

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<v Speaker 3>Like my whole childhood can be marked by al Kelly songs,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I could tell you every year of my life

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<v Speaker 3>based on R. Kelly song and what I was doing,

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<v Speaker 3>the girl I liked, and the party we went to

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<v Speaker 3>in the song and the first slow jam that you

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<v Speaker 3>got you rubbed the little rub you got like R

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly was that for us in the late eighties early

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<v Speaker 3>wise he was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like he was.

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<v Speaker 4>But but I would say that, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 4>I was having this conversation with someone else and they'd

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<v Speaker 4>be like, yeah, but the parents, the parents took their

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<v Speaker 4>kids there and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not because I believe that that is true, that

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<v Speaker 4>there was some parents that literally took their children to

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<v Speaker 4>him knowing that he something wasn't right. Like I'm never ever, ever,

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<v Speaker 4>ever ever take get my granddaughter and I never did

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<v Speaker 4>it with my son, to take them to somebody and

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<v Speaker 4>a man, woman, whomever else it is, that's not a

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<v Speaker 4>family member or somebody that I trust. And even in

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<v Speaker 4>those situations, we were always taught you don't even trust

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<v Speaker 4>everybody in your family and just leaving my child there

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<v Speaker 4>for days and whatever and not like, no, I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>not ever doing that. So I understand people who say,

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<v Speaker 4>but what about the parents, And I think that those

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<v Speaker 4>parents have to deal with their children, They're gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with different things. But guess what, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know them. I don't buy their albums, I don't buy

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<v Speaker 4>their shoes, clothes, don't I don't support them in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>With R.

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<v Speaker 4>Kelly, this is a grown ass man. You're a grown

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<v Speaker 4>ass man. And if a person brings you their child

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<v Speaker 4>and you allegedly allegedly do whatever to them, which you

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<v Speaker 4>know whatever, allegedly do whatever things to them, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, then someth's wrong with you.

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<v Speaker 4>You also so the parents and you it doesn't It's

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<v Speaker 4>not like because of the parents then you somehow are

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<v Speaker 4>exampt Yet No, no, no, you also have an issue.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not finna be buying maybe, but I know

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not finna be buying the music. I'm not finna

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<v Speaker 4>be two step in. I'm not gonna do none of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I did get me a little twist in the chair

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<v Speaker 4>on a from then eventually I said no, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>even do that. I just said I'm gonna be very vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 4>I just, you know, I was like, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>vulnerable and talk about this because you know, I don't want.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate for people to be walking around in the

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<v Speaker 4>world feeling like everything is a zero sum. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>this world makes you believe. It makes you believe that

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<v Speaker 4>if you don't do everything exactly perfectly as they say,

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<v Speaker 4>whoever they is then, or whoever they are, then you

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<v Speaker 4>just have failed. And I don't think that that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we all come short, come up short in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of how we live and the things that we

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<v Speaker 4>do every day.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just wanted to say that, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know what, I had a moment, but I put myself

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<v Speaker 4>back together.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, sometimes you have a moment, you snapped out.

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<v Speaker 5>Of it, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And then there was people in the restaurant and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, damn, they musn't paying me no attention. But

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<v Speaker 4>I was just thinking to myself, Wow, I really don't

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<v Speaker 4>do our like at all, but today the paparazzi people

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<v Speaker 4>could have caught me, and I look like I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>a hypocrite because.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to.

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<v Speaker 4>Doing the doing it. So yeah, a nission whatever, ANISSI

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<v Speaker 4>let's not give it an.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do too much, don't do too much. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. That's what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, everybody got our own cross and sins the bed.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, let he who was without sin through the first.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you sound really.

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<v Speaker 2>Religious.

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<v Speaker 1>No, anyway, I'm just gonna let it go.

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<v Speaker 2>So today is another one of our friends.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a guest. It's like a brother of mine's.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he is a world renowned publisher. He has

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<v Speaker 3>published over one hundred and thirty books in thirteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>He is He has published books from Everybody to our

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<v Speaker 3>friend Yandy to styles p you know, so the list

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<v Speaker 3>goes on and on.

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<v Speaker 2>And he does children's books. This is his specialty.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the publisher of all three of my books, Raising Kings.

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<v Speaker 3>We have I Know My Rights and we have Echoes

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<v Speaker 3>in the Streets. Which is my last book, and currently.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not your last. It is your latest, okay, it

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<v Speaker 4>is my latest last, and your latest.

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<v Speaker 2>It is my latest.

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<v Speaker 3>And he is none other than Hedred McBride, the owner

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<v Speaker 3>of McBride's Stories. How are you doing today, month?

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<v Speaker 5>Brother peace? Brother. We know each other for so long

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<v Speaker 5>and you still say my name.

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<v Speaker 2>I always because I always just call you McBride. That

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<v Speaker 2>was up.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody everybody calls me McBride. You know, it depends on

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<v Speaker 5>when you met me. But now I'm honored to be

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<v Speaker 5>with you guys, and most most respect to you too.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, it's just a great journey to be

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<v Speaker 5>here with you. I'm watching everybody. I'm a fan as

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<v Speaker 5>well as a supporter and a brother. So I'm grateful

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<v Speaker 5>to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. It's good to have you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so funny because every time we talk about you

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<v Speaker 4>on the show, my son is like McBride.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>I always get his name room, I always say.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe you don't know this. Where are you from?

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<v Speaker 4>Where's your family from?

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<v Speaker 1>Your roots?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, my father is from the South, We're from some

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<v Speaker 5>to South Carolina, moved to New York, hallm in the Bronx.

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<v Speaker 5>My mom is from Saint Croix, moved to the Bronx.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew there was somebody that has some Caribbean blood

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<v Speaker 4>running through their their their veins because I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>does blood run through your veins or does blood run

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<v Speaker 4>through your body through your veins?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's how they get it out. They go in

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<v Speaker 1>the van. I just to make sure because sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>don't be knowing stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, but I know Hendrick is absolutely a Caribbean

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<v Speaker 4>inspired name. So that's why I kind of know it

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<v Speaker 4>because I know a lot of men name Hedrick who

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<v Speaker 4>has somebody in their family that comes from the Islands.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a beautiful name. It's a beautiful name.

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<v Speaker 4>So sometimes people need to be calling you Hedrick and

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<v Speaker 4>not just McBride.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give Hendrick Saint Croix, you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what's up.

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<v Speaker 5>I think everything. As a child, Sedric heard it all

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<v Speaker 5>and Drake I heard it all.

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<v Speaker 3>So this so, you know, we're celebrating Black History Month,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we wanted to celebrate you because most

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<v Speaker 3>of the books that you have pretty much exuberate black

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<v Speaker 3>history right like they they focus on it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>most of the authors focus on how we better our communities.

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<v Speaker 3>It shows us in a light that you know, young

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<v Speaker 3>kids get to see black people and brown people and

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<v Speaker 3>the light that is always positive. So what made you

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<v Speaker 3>start writing these books?

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<v Speaker 5>Just that's a great question, that's the million dollar question.

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<v Speaker 5>It started off by being a parent reading to my daughter,

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<v Speaker 5>Scylla McBride. She's sixteen, well she'll be seventeen next week.

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<v Speaker 5>She's sixteen. So I used to read with her nightly basis,

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<v Speaker 5>and I found myself reading books that were not culturally

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<v Speaker 5>relevant to her. I'm reading Cat and Had, I'm reading

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<v Speaker 5>Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, just children's books that we all

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<v Speaker 5>grew up on. Like, how can kids in this day

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<v Speaker 5>relate to these books? So I said that they don't

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<v Speaker 5>have any characters that look like us, they don't have

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<v Speaker 5>storylines that look like us. Back in those days, I

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<v Speaker 5>was a younger man, so I'm wearing a Yankee hat

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<v Speaker 5>all the time. So I said, we need representation. And

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<v Speaker 5>that really made me start this journey. And then when

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<v Speaker 5>I started it, it was so many people related to

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<v Speaker 5>it and wanted it, and that's when I kept going.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I'm becoming an educator. I've been a school

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<v Speaker 5>teacher in Brownsville, you know, one of the poorest districts

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<v Speaker 5>in New York City, and I would state test scores

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<v Speaker 5>was so low. I was a fifth grade teacher and

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<v Speaker 5>I was wondering. I said, these kids are so smart,

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<v Speaker 5>why are the test score so low? And kids really

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<v Speaker 5>tell you because the books don't represent us. We don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to read. We're not even interested in reading. If

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<v Speaker 5>you ever picked up a state test booklet, the stuff

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<v Speaker 5>that's in there is not even relatable to the kids.

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<v Speaker 5>So they just check out. You see these scores, and

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<v Speaker 5>this shows that the black and brown, the black Hispanic

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<v Speaker 5>population of scoring so low. It's not because they're not

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<v Speaker 5>smart enough, it's because they're just not interested. It's not

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<v Speaker 5>for them. I pretty much started a crusade, like I

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<v Speaker 5>started a mission, a mission to save our kids, because

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<v Speaker 5>you know the correlation between education and the prison system.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, That's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know what, I appreciate you saying that, and

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<v Speaker 4>I want to simplify it because the way you said

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<v Speaker 4>it was so eloquent, so educated. It's born. That's the

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<v Speaker 4>bottom line is it's boring. Nobody wants to read it.

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<v Speaker 4>And to be quite honest, if you really go back

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<v Speaker 4>once we get a little bit older and we have

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<v Speaker 4>and you get some a level of consciousness and you

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<v Speaker 4>go back and read some of the these stories, it's

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<v Speaker 4>really kind of racist too, like you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like and also for you to be forced as

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<v Speaker 4>a teacher and student and parent to have to read

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<v Speaker 4>some of the material and take that stuff in, which

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<v Speaker 4>is teaching you, you know, Goldilocks, who's a white person

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<v Speaker 4>with certain types of hair, that that's you know, that's

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty woman.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. They're not telling you never

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<v Speaker 1>for tid. They're not telling.

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<v Speaker 4>You anything about people who look like you, and they're

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<v Speaker 4>forcing you to have to like learn this. It's already

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 4>enforcing stereotypes about us that we have issues overcoming later

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<v Speaker 4>on in life. They literally are teaching you in the

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<v Speaker 4>school system that to be light or white is to

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<v Speaker 4>be better than anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a sair.

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<v Speaker 5>It's indirect. It's training us to not have high self esteem,

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<v Speaker 5>not to have goals, just to celebrate others than our selves.

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<v Speaker 5>So our books celebrate us. It makes us feel good

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<v Speaker 5>about ourselves. And even when we were children, our TV shows,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, even if you had a different strokes that

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<v Speaker 5>we loved them. They always had a white rich family

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<v Speaker 5>or Webster or you know, like it just it just

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 5>showed us like it could never just be a black

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:24.479
<v Speaker 5>family thriving. Now, these were our role models, and we

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<v Speaker 5>were so thirsty to see black people on the show

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<v Speaker 5>that we would attach to it right. Well, that that

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<v Speaker 5>changed the game a different world. These are things that

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<v Speaker 5>changed the game. And this is what we're trying to

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<v Speaker 5>do again because it.

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<v Speaker 3>So for how many years you've been doing you said,

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen years is the first time you started this book.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you seen like the books that you have written

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<v Speaker 3>with other authors, have you seen changed Like do you

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<v Speaker 3>see that when you bring these books to the schools,

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<v Speaker 3>Are you seeing the kids more engaged.

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<v Speaker 5>It is similar to rap music where sometimes our bigger,

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 5>biggest consumers is not even our people, because everybody wants

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 5>to know our culture. They want to know what's going on.

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 5>And not to toot your own horn that I know.

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<v Speaker 5>My rights book that we published together came about during

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<v Speaker 5>the George Floyd, you know, around those times when COVID started,

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<v Speaker 5>and that book to date is my biggest selling book,

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<v Speaker 5>and it has reached so many people. You know, and

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<v Speaker 5>and and you know how organic how that book came about.

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<v Speaker 5>You and I met at a restaurant. I won't say

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<v Speaker 5>the name because they my son and myself of not

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<v Speaker 5>paying our task.

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 2>We met.

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<v Speaker 5>That's where we met.

0:28:56.080 --> 0:29:02.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know who it was, so, you know, saving

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<v Speaker 3>the world and saving.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they knew. I don't think they do.

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<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't know. But yeah, he had.

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<v Speaker 3>He had reached out to me through a mutual friend

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<v Speaker 3>and and she hit me like, yo, do I have

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<v Speaker 3>this publisher. He wants to meet with you. He's interested

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 3>in doing book with you. So I was like, all right,

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 3>hit me up.

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:29.959
<v Speaker 2>Who was it signed? Hit me up?

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 3>And she did, like, yo, listen, I got he's a

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<v Speaker 3>good friend of mine. I want you to meet.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a perfect match.

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 2>It was a perfect match.

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 3>And we sat down and he was like, yo, listen,

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 3>I got a perfect idea for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I wasn't really thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about writing my own book and my

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<v Speaker 3>memoir and all these things. And he said, I think

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 3>you should write a book about the first ten amendments

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<v Speaker 3>of the Constitution and just break it down for children.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was just like, I was like, wow, I

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<v Speaker 3>said that really made SI. And He's like, I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 3>you got a good following.

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 2>People listen to you.

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, you're already in that space, you're dealing with kids,

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 3>and you have all of these people following you.

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it'd be a dope. I there, And within

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<v Speaker 2>the next week or two weeks, we had the book work.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>We wrote the book and the response from it was

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 3>just like he said, it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>People gravitated. We still want to book.

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<v Speaker 1>We still have not.

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<v Speaker 4>Put the type of energy that we could into the book.

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<v Speaker 4>I know y'all have, but I'm saying, like your team,

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 4>we still we've done a little bit, but not even

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<v Speaker 4>as much as we could do that the book could

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<v Speaker 4>be all.

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<v Speaker 1>Over this toll. Yeah, right, we take the book.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're gonna attach ourselves to Tamika's tour because Tamika

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 3>got her book tour and starting next week, so.

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>It starts this week.

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 3>So what I'm gonna do is attach myself with our

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 3>books right while she's selling over goad.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, we got book over here, something you can get

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<v Speaker 2>for the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>See what I mean.

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 4>And what I mean by that by saying like we haven't,

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 4>what I mean is that every single day, new opportunities

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 4>come about where people are looking for stuff to for

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 4>their children, like because especially here we are in this

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 4>time when people are feeling really attacked, our rights are

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.719
<v Speaker 4>under attack, and it's a new moment to say to

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<v Speaker 4>emerge and say listen, even though they don't care nothing

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 4>about the Constitution right now, but nonetheless it does exist.

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 4>And our kids need to know. They need to know

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 4>the difference between what we see in front of our

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 4>faces and what people have fought and died, like people

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 4>put blood, sweat and tears to create a society that

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<v Speaker 4>had a level some level of fairness and for you

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 4>to be able to fight, you know, And I think

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 4>one of the things that's a little scary is that

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<v Speaker 4>at one point. Actually, I was having a conversation with

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Bernice King, doctor Martin Luther King Junior's daughter, the

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<v Speaker 4>other day, and she was saying that the scary thing

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 4>is that at one point you at least had the

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 4>courts that you could appeal to as black people for

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 4>some level of protection, and now that's going away. So

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 4>y'all need a part too, because you guys need to

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 4>somehow find a way to talk about where we currently

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 4>stand and how the Constitution is actually being ignored with

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 4>some of the stuff that oh boys doing over there

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 4>over there over there, I'm not I've been calling him

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 4>something that I'm not going to put on this show

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 4>today while McBride is on here, so he don't got

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 4>to go home with that on him.

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, So anyway, what was the first book you wrote.

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<v Speaker 5>The first book I wrote was Parkville High And I

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 5>used to work for with Developmental Disabilities for people with

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 5>developmental disabilities, and I saw firsthand that they are no

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 5>different than anyone else. So I just wanted to bring

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 5>away to people with disabilities, like just because I have

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 5>a disability, that doesn't mean I'm a regular. I'm not

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.959
<v Speaker 5>a regular person. So that was the first book we

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 5>wrote for kids that attended They all had a different disability,

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 5>but they attended public high school. So it showed people

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 5>to not judge a book by his cover because we're

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 5>all the same. We're all the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 4>I love that, And so would you say that of

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 4>all the books you said, my Son is like your

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<v Speaker 4>best selling But what give us some other big collaborations

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 4>that you have on in the McBride stories repertoire.

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 5>So it's so many different feelings and thoughts. Because my

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 5>Metalworld piece, which is roun Our Test a basketball player.

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 5>He's a high school teammate of mine. So he was

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 5>the first influenza slash celebrity to attach himself to McBride's stories.

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 5>And by having that partnership, it was it enabled me

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 5>to attract other celebrities. So guys both know it's always

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.240
<v Speaker 5>a copycat league. Nobody wants to be the first person

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 5>to do something. So he was a risk taker and

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 5>he invested in me and we published books together, and

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 5>that that enabled me to sign Yandy. That enabled me

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 5>to sign a Marvel a Negro, like we have books

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 5>in different languages. You know, it just helps build your resume.

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 5>You need that one person to stamp you. Wow, that's

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 5>metalworld piece. He was on the Lakers. That's when he

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 5>won the championship for the Lakers. You know, he was

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 5>on top of his career, but you know he needed

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 5>like a pr boost and he my high school friend.

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 5>So it was that was like a memorable He had

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:50.760
<v Speaker 5>books on our books, was on CBS shows, ESPN, like everywhere.

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 5>That was like, what really took me to the next level.

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 5>So I'll always be in debt indebted to him. Just

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 5>saying with my daughter now or she's the reason for

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 5>the company, but she's published five books now you know

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 5>she's still in high school. So just just being able

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 5>to have these valuable partnerships with good people. Yandy is

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 5>a friend of mine from high school days. Like just

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 5>to have these partnerships are so valuable because we were

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 5>helping so many people. But you surrounded by people that

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 5>you you know, respecting and have luck.

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>That's that's great.

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 3>What advice would you give a young publisher that wants

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 3>to write books that's looking into What advice would you

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 3>give a young author and a publish that wants to

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 3>do both, Like what would you.

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 5>I would say, don't always focus on yourself and your

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 5>needs because you have to see what the needs are

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 5>of the people. Like sometimes people would write about whatever

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 5>they always wanted to put out, but you have to

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 5>think about what people would want to hear about or

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 5>what's suiting them. So you have to be open minded

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 5>because a lot of like nowadays we're so publishing. You

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 5>can put out anything you can put out of you know,

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 5>a book about making oxtels with your grandmother, but you

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 5>just have to know if it will people receive this,

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 5>is this what people need? Like when my soign and

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 5>myself always collaborate, is never about us. It's always about

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 5>are we providing a solution? And I know everyone doesn't

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 5>right to be so serious, but that's that's the you know,

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.439
<v Speaker 5>that's what we wear on our shoulders because we want

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 5>to change the world. We want to you know, help out.

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 5>So when we collaborate, it's always about what's needed, what

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 5>what do people need to hear? So some people write

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 5>for fun, but you know, we not in that type

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 5>of business were you know, we freedom fighters and and

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 5>I do it a different way. I do it through

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 5>literacy because like people don't know it or not, but

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 5>education is if you're not educated, you already at a disadvantage,

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 5>and we make these books. If you see his raising kings,

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 5>like these books are beautiful, Like people love to look

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 5>at the book.

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 4>Yes, the artwork is amazing. They really should. Yes, artwork

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 4>is amazing.

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:13.280
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing.

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 5>And he's a rapper, he's you know, he's an author,

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 5>so you know the words are going to sound good

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 5>as well. So it's the same way as a dope

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 5>rap song when you got doctor dre and then you

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 5>got a good lyricist and you make a perfect mix.

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 5>So that's what we're kind of trying to do with

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 5>these books, Like we have perfect illustrations with perfect words,

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 5>Like we're just trying to I don't know, just you know,

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 5>just trying to just trying to help out and just

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 5>trying to save the world, so to speak. Like it's

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 5>crazy to say, but we're trying to save the world.

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<v Speaker 4>So let me ask you two quick things. One is

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 4>you said you mentioned having other additional.

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<v Speaker 1>Languages, So how did that happen? Is it? What other

0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>languages do you carry?

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<v Speaker 5>Because one thing about black and brown, you could be

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.840
<v Speaker 5>we've been transported all over the world, you know that, sister,

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 5>Like that's how we all got here. Everybody was dropped

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 5>off somewhere. So that partnership with a marl I Negra

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 5>showed me because she's dark, darker than anybody, any of us.

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 5>So she we did her book in Spanish and French

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 5>because people all over the world can relate to somebody

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 5>that looks like her. So we just want to represent everyone.

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 5>We have books in different language, my Song's book and

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 5>this is something like that that he keeps it so

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 5>real because I asked him, I said, you want to

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 5>do it in France, you want to do it in

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 5>English Spanish? He said, I'm from the Bronx McBride. He said,

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:50.359
<v Speaker 5>I grew up with black and Hispanic people. So there's

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 5>a Spanish version of I know my rights. He didn't

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.439
<v Speaker 5>even want the French because he said, I grew up

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 5>in the Bronx. This is what I grew up with.

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.760
<v Speaker 5>So it's all about representation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>My second question is understand like, what would be something

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 4>that you would say you need to help your business

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 4>go to the next level. And the reason why I'm

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 4>asking you that is because right now we're in a

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 4>weird time in the world, especially where a lot of

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:27.320
<v Speaker 4>corporations are coming under fire for you know, not supporting diversity,

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 4>equity and inclusion. You know, some of them have been

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 4>in their own ways in terms of their relationship to their.

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Employees.

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 4>They have you know, serious violations, human rights violations, and

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 4>people are calling for there to be an exodus, if

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 4>you will, of black folks from these brands target and

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 4>the list goes on and on and on. So my

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 4>question for you is in terms of distribution, like what

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 4>would you be What would be something that if you

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 4>had an aim right now that could come and help you,

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:04.799
<v Speaker 4>that you think would allow you to get in more

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 4>households into more of the hands of our young people.

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 5>That's a great question. I feel like, and this is

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 5>a debate I have with loved ones and family and friends.

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 5>I like to move a certain way because and my

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:22.880
<v Speaker 5>song will tell you, we make most of our money

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 5>in schools and organizations, like we like, not in the

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:30.439
<v Speaker 5>mainstream with everything. So it's like you have to move

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 5>a certain way because I feel like attaching yourself to

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:38.320
<v Speaker 5>certain companies and organizations you might not be in alignment

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:41.399
<v Speaker 5>with all of their values. And we see this every day,

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 5>like companies that we trusted for all these years, you know,

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 5>sometime they pop out and they're not in alignment. So

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 5>I like to move this way, Like I don't need

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 5>to be a millionaire yet. I just feel like if

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 5>we're making six figures or so, we just moving how

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 5>we move, because sometimes you have to stay not attached

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 5>to people. And we just saw with a lot of

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.280
<v Speaker 5>the leaders, a lot of the people that just fell.

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 5>These are people like five years ago that we looked

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 5>up to and you know, we would have honored to

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 5>be attached to them. So I feel like, and one

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 5>thing about my son, he always say integrity over income,

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 5>and that's why he's one of my favorite partners. And

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm not just saying this because I'm on here, but

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 5>it's like your integrity, if you keep your character and

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 5>you move how you move, you still gonna get what

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.800
<v Speaker 5>you deserve. Like some people would jump out the window

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 5>and partner with a big cup corporation, and then what

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 5>happens if something, you know, something hits the fan. It's like,

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:44.759
<v Speaker 5>I like to move like this, to be honest, and

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:50.359
<v Speaker 5>I won't nay names, but I was offered. I've been offered. Please,

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 5>I've been it's thirteen years. I've been offered by a

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 5>lot of major corporations to you know, buy my catalog

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 5>or you know, create caught tunes for me. And then

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 5>I looked into their company and in align with what

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 5>I'm into. So sometime being independent is good.

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 3>But I love that. And that's one thing have you

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 3>looked into. I think because our books I think should

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 3>be cartoons. Like I really been thinking about that. I

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 3>think if we just had a cartoon with our books,

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 3>I think it would take it to the next level.

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 3>So that's something that I think we should look into.

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 3>I think because most all of the books that I've

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 3>seen you wrote, not just my book, but just every

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 3>book that you have written that I know, like with

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 3>other authors, they have a real good substance, and they

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 3>have really good themes.

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>You know that some is about bullying, some is about

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 2>being different.

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.439
<v Speaker 3>So it's just so many different you know, I've seen

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:45.800
<v Speaker 3>the one that you had with Devo and his wife,

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, the time Machine, the Black and when they

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 3>traveling through time and they talking about things that happen

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 3>in black and like these.

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>These books are necessary in history.

0:42:56.600 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they traveling through the timas and they showing us

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 3>different things in times and it's a dope idea. You know,

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 3>so I think all of these books could be cartoons.

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, I think that's I think that should be

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 3>the next thing that you think of. But I want

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 3>to ask this, This is the last question I'm going

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 3>to ask you, like who would you want to do

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 3>a book with?

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Like who have you? What artists?

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 3>So whatever that you look at, it was like, you

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.839
<v Speaker 3>know what, this book right here would be dope. I'm

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 3>not don't tell me the idea because we don't want

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 3>to give away.

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 5>Just being selfish and wanting to give rich overnight. I

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 5>would love Lebron James, I would love Na. So were

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 5>out of here, We out of here. But all in

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 5>terms of I almost did a book with Dick Gregory

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 5>before he passed away. And this was when Bill Cosby

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 5>had got incarcerated. We was just close to doing a

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 5>book with Dick Gregory because I said, you would be

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.720
<v Speaker 5>the grandfather. Like a lot of people, we respect Dick Gregory,

0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 5>but these legacies are not carried on. So if I

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 5>would have did a series like he would have been

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:06.240
<v Speaker 5>the grandfather telling stories, I thought that would have been fired.

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 5>But on a sofa tip, I need a Rihanna, I

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 5>need Lebron, come get me.

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 4>What would you like for your legacy to be in

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 4>the end. And by the way, you when you said,

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm not just saying this because my son is sitting

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 4>right here and I just thought of this little joke

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.280
<v Speaker 4>that Hedricks don't lie, Hedricks tell.

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Them the straight truth every time.

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 4>But what would be your like, what's the thing that

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 4>you want to see come from your efforts? Because this

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 4>is not just I would say, it's not just being

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 4>an author and a publisher. You are also this is

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:53.720
<v Speaker 4>a spiritual journey right anytime we are able to bring

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 4>information to our young people that's different from this mess

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 4>that they receive, their being bombarded with garbage every day.

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:04.959
<v Speaker 1>And for you to try to cut through because if.

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 4>You made like you know, kind of like popping Who's

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 4>zooming who books, if you made books about fashion and

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, fighting and carrying on, you probably could make

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 4>a whole lot of money because there's a big market

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:19.839
<v Speaker 4>for that.

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>But to try to cut.

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:25.359
<v Speaker 4>Through the noise and bring some level of history and

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:28.879
<v Speaker 4>stability to our young people that's very spiritual. And it's

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 4>not just young people because I know we know from

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:35.839
<v Speaker 4>my sons books that families, entire families, they take those

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:38.800
<v Speaker 4>books they sit down together and they read them together,

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 4>and everybody, especially for I know my rights, everybody was

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 4>getting educated because we heard that many times.

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:50.240
<v Speaker 3>A lot of times parents would call me and be like, hey, y'all,

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:50.919
<v Speaker 3>just read the book.

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know some of these rights.

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:54.839
<v Speaker 3>I thought I was getting a book for my son

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 3>or my daughter, and I ended up learning as much

0:45:57.719 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 3>as they did, right, you know what I'm saying. So

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:00.720
<v Speaker 3>that was a blessing.

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I think that's very spiritual, and you know,

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 4>I hope you see it that way. So what would

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 4>you say in the end, you want your legacy to

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 4>be I want.

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 5>My legacy to be someone who you know, added diversity

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 5>to children's literature, encouraged kids to read during the technology era.

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:22.799
<v Speaker 5>And you know, I'm from the hood too, So my

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.319
<v Speaker 5>friends call me the black Doctor Seuss. They go to

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 5>the club, they say, my men beat Doctor Seuss. So

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 5>the same way they celebrate Doctor Seus's birthday and all

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:36.759
<v Speaker 5>that stuff, I would love to be celebrated McBride's stories.

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 5>You know, we change in the face of literature, of

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 5>literacy for our kids, and is in a time where

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 5>it's so needed. Is this is this is a scary

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 5>time with education, and you know, and you know, information

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 5>is presented to kids so quickly we're throwing it down,

0:46:57.520 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 5>we're giving them the fundamental If you read Raising Kings,

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 5>he broke down every facet of being a young man.

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 5>Like we taking our time with it. So we just

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 5>want to build the fundamentals. We come from the eighties

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 5>and nineties, growing up with fundamentals, right. You know, I

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 5>play basketball, you have to have a left hand right

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 5>hand jump shot. You know, like we welwould come from fundamentals.

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 5>Now everybody's getting things so fast that they don't know

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 5>the fundamentals. So I just want to be that person

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 5>that brought it back to the old school, so to speak,

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 5>and just slow things down. Education doesn't have to be

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 5>over like quick instant. Now you do a book report

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 5>in ten minutes. We used to have to go to

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 5>the library get three books and encyclopedia like it took

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 5>a long time to do that stuff.

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 1>So AI is doing that.

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 4>AI is speeding up, you know, the process and if

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 4>you will of information, which is you know, I think

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 4>that I don't think there's anything wrong with having tools

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 4>to help fine tune something that you have already had

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 4>to do velap. But if you are able to just

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:04.800
<v Speaker 4>go to a system and say, write me a paper

0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:10.279
<v Speaker 4>about McBride's stories, how many books does he did he do?

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 4>And you know what's the names? And then it just

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:15.719
<v Speaker 4>pulls up everything and you don't got to do research.

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 4>That's a problem, right right, that's what we are.

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 5>And I wanted to say something. I don't like to

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 5>brag too much. Even though you see my trophies and

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:29.399
<v Speaker 5>stuff in the back, I see it just to let

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:31.279
<v Speaker 5>my son know I used to do that. I used

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 5>to do it with sham Garden. But I was just

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 5>hired as a professor at Morgan State, which is my college,

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 5>the English course as Introduction of adolescent literature. And one

0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:49.399
<v Speaker 5>of your books is going to be a textbook at

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 5>Morgan State University in the fall.

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations, that's black history.

0:48:55.120 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 2>That's black. We celebrate you, mak history. Keep it going, King.

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:04.799
<v Speaker 2>We got a lot of work to do.

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Man, you're an amazing person, not just a author, not

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:13.840
<v Speaker 3>just a publisher, but you're a good person. Like you

0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 3>know how you just meet people and his spirit just

0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 3>matching mind. You know, I'm a spirit person. Like if

0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 3>your energy and your spirit is off, I don't care

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:22.840
<v Speaker 3>what you got. I don't want to do nothing with you.

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:25.359
<v Speaker 3>So when I met him, he was very humble, but

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:27.400
<v Speaker 3>he's still you can tell that he's a man. You

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:29.719
<v Speaker 3>don't see I'm saying, very humble individual, but he's a man.

0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 3>He's honest, He looks you in your eyes. Anything that

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:34.880
<v Speaker 3>he said to me, he did. And that's all I

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 3>ever asked for. So I salute you, and it's numb,

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:39.239
<v Speaker 3>but loved brother. We got a lot of work to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep being great and we got a lot of work

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:42.719
<v Speaker 3>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. That's it. Thank you for joining t in

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 1>my first time. But it won't be the life.

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna work on Tamika's book soon.

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna work but children, but we get that.

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get that children's But don't worry about We

0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna this is. This is how we do it.

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:00.080
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna come with the cover and everything and and

0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 3>we're just gonna fill it in.

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna fill it and watch anybody good. Twenty pages,

0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 2>that's what.

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<v Speaker 4>We need on this tour.

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Serious artwork that we come with. We're gonna we're gonna

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 2>get this. Don't listen, let me do the management.

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 5>We just go ahead, got a shameless plug. My song

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:26.760
<v Speaker 5>is about to drop echoes in the streets. The Newark additions.

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:32.359
<v Speaker 5>Newark Editions catered to Newark, New Jersey and New York

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:36.160
<v Speaker 5>all the time, but we want to focus on and

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:37.800
<v Speaker 5>that's where he does a lot of his work.

0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:41.080
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, like my song loves Newark. I believe one

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 4>day he may live there.

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:44.840
<v Speaker 2>So I mean I love Newark because Newark loves me.

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:48.279
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Shout out to Key should shoutout to

0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 3>shout out to do it all dupre shout out to

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 3>who else?

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to miss nobody. Who else.

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Ball Cook like, oh yeah, definitely family.

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to coach T the music teacher over there, West,

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:08.600
<v Speaker 3>I hi, who we do the program together, so they

0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:12.400
<v Speaker 3>have foret.

0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to feed.

0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to new Direction like all a, it's a

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 3>real ecosystem of people there who really love what they

0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 3>do and it's not like fake. They just not give

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:28.319
<v Speaker 3>me a yes. So that's what I'm saying. So it's

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:31.920
<v Speaker 3>a real ecosystem and they've embraced me. You know, they

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.880
<v Speaker 3>gave me opportunities act weall Cook said, I said, I

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:36.440
<v Speaker 3>want to do this program, so I come in do

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:38.319
<v Speaker 3>whatever you want to do, you know what I'm saying.

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:40.919
<v Speaker 3>And the music teacher, coach T is like my brother

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:43.720
<v Speaker 3>in there. And and it's not just a music program.

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 2>What we do.

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 3>It's called from from Drill Music to Hell Music, in

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:50.880
<v Speaker 3>which we take the whole beats and the concept of

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 3>drill music, but we transform it and there's no spinning.

0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Ain't nobody got no ops, ain't nobody shooting nobody, But

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 3>were creating real music of substance, and it's raw music,

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:03.840
<v Speaker 3>and it still has the elements of the reality of

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:06.240
<v Speaker 3>which they deal with, but we just not promoting any violence.

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:08.640
<v Speaker 3>So we're not engaging in violence. And not only do

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:12.240
<v Speaker 3>we do the music, but it's mentoring that goes along.

0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 3>We sit down and we have whole twenty and thirty

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:18.399
<v Speaker 3>minute conversations and they tell us about why they made

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.120
<v Speaker 3>these music or why they felt like they had to

0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:23.479
<v Speaker 3>talk about this, and what's going on in their real lives,

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:25.719
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of them don't have nobody that could

0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 3>actually have conversations with them, and they open up, and

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:32.120
<v Speaker 3>you be so surprised to see some of the toughest

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 3>dudes open up telling you about their reality, tell them

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:36.480
<v Speaker 3>what happened to their parents, tell them how one of

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 3>their friends got killed and shot, and then you start

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 3>tearing back the layers and you start you change, and

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:43.479
<v Speaker 3>you transforming these kids.

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's all I want to do.

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Like I want kids from our communities who don't feel

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 3>like they have opportunities and they don't have people that

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 3>listen to them, to actually have somebody that listens to them,

0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 3>that has.

0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Been through what they've been through, that has lost.

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Friends and family to the streets, into the prisons, and

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 3>lost them to the graveyard. And I want to be

0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:06.640
<v Speaker 3>able to let them know that we actually care about them.

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 3>So they've given me opportunities to do that in new work,

0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:10.800
<v Speaker 3>and I love that city.

0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:13.719
<v Speaker 1>So that's that it is. Thank you for being here

0:53:13.760 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 1>with us.

0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 5>Good good day, Thank you for having me.

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:22.759
<v Speaker 4>Peace, peace, King, Congratulations, brother man.

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 1>This is what I'm talking about. We're doing you know,

0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:26.280
<v Speaker 1>it's it's slow.

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:30.759
<v Speaker 4>We're moving slower than other people because we're choosing a

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:35.719
<v Speaker 4>route that doesn't include foolishness. And some people they're not

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 4>doing foolishness, but they just for whatever reason, have a

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:41.920
<v Speaker 4>different I don't know what you call it. Like everybody's

0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 4>got their own blessing in their own time. Our The

0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:50.400
<v Speaker 4>fact that we spend so much time being like front

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:54.839
<v Speaker 4>liners puts a little bit of distance between us and

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 4>like the fast paced success, because.

0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I don't think we look for success

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:04.200
<v Speaker 3>in that way, right, Success for us is actually being

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:08.359
<v Speaker 3>able to transform, you know, the mind state of where

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:10.239
<v Speaker 3>we live at, the people that were around, to be

0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 3>able to actually get justice, like freedom and just those

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:16.000
<v Speaker 3>are the things that we look for in success.

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 2>So the rest of the things supposed to come along

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:19.319
<v Speaker 2>with her.

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Somebody always told me, like, like when you work for accolades,

0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 3>they don't come.

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 3>You supposed to work for your heart. You were supposed

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:28.839
<v Speaker 3>to work from your heart and the accolades to come

0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 3>for you. So I think that's what it is for us.

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:33.839
<v Speaker 3>So you know, it's even though it's a slower route,

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:35.920
<v Speaker 3>it's more rewarding, it's more earned.

0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:37.839
<v Speaker 2>You know, you you you.

0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:39.879
<v Speaker 3>You feel it Like shout out to Rhapsody, I just

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:42.480
<v Speaker 3>remember that we never shout her out and she got

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:48.279
<v Speaker 3>her Grammy Wow. And it's like Rapper is such a

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:51.160
<v Speaker 3>dope rapper, right, and she's always been a dope rapper.

0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:53.680
<v Speaker 3>But she took and she said in her speech that

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:56.440
<v Speaker 3>she didn't have to change. You know what I'm saying, like,

0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:59.359
<v Speaker 3>she didn't have to sacrifice and compromise.

0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Who she was and what she believed.

0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 3>That she just true to herself, to lyricism, to be

0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:05.920
<v Speaker 3>honest to herself and the king.

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:07.040
<v Speaker 2>And that's what we've done.

0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:09.920
<v Speaker 3>And despite what anybody can tell you, we can go

0:55:09.960 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 3>to sleep at night knowing that we did is.

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 2>We did this.

0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:16.360
<v Speaker 1>We took, we took the stick around the back.

0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 2>And that's it.

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 2>So shout out to Hedrick, Hedrick.

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Hedrick, I know we did.

0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:24.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm just so used to say, I don't know. When

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:26.799
<v Speaker 2>I see h E, I'd be like he so.

0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:36.200
<v Speaker 3>But now Morgan is the textbook and come on, now,

0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:40.919
<v Speaker 3>come on, now, come on, black history bla.

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Black history making history. I'm really proud of you.

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:46.920
<v Speaker 4>But that's why I say, because I know what you

0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:49.839
<v Speaker 4>have sacrificed from the day that I met you, and

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:55.240
<v Speaker 4>I remember meeting someone so intelligent, so creative.

0:55:55.000 --> 0:56:00.000
<v Speaker 1>But very frustrated about just the whole world. And I'm

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:02.440
<v Speaker 1>may not have had all.

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:05.799
<v Speaker 4>The pieces, but I did see in you something that

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:09.160
<v Speaker 4>I was like, Well, the movement needs this, like this

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:13.359
<v Speaker 4>person and this energy. The movement really truly needed you,

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 4>and so it wasn't even me like I introduced you

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:20.759
<v Speaker 4>to Carmen Perez and that just like took off on

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 4>its own, and you guys, you know, started going into prisons.

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:28.439
<v Speaker 4>And then you could tell each year you still were

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:31.279
<v Speaker 4>frustrated with a lot of things in this in a

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 4>movement space. Obviously we making money in the movement. Still

0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:38.399
<v Speaker 4>today we haven't all the way figured that out. We're

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:43.040
<v Speaker 4>better than we were, but it's a tough process. But

0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:50.800
<v Speaker 4>I would say that you, I would say that I

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:55.359
<v Speaker 4>began to watch the layers of the frustration kind of

0:56:55.600 --> 0:57:00.520
<v Speaker 4>shedding as you began to have more accomplishments towards your

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:03.400
<v Speaker 4>goals and things that you wanted to do to find

0:57:03.440 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 4>your people, find your tribe. As you've done that, more

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:09.799
<v Speaker 4>of that frustration of just being like, ain't nobody real.

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:12.640
<v Speaker 4>Everybody just lied, they say they're gonna do this, they

0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:15.040
<v Speaker 4>don't do it this, and people just full of shit.

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's a sucker.

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 4>Then you started being like, Okay, I have found people

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:23.080
<v Speaker 4>that are not those things and people who I can

0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:25.960
<v Speaker 4>build with, and so I think that's really good for you,

0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 4>mister McBride is one of those individuals who said he

0:57:29.880 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 4>was gonna do something, He meant it, he stood by it.

0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:35.760
<v Speaker 4>How many people have we met with and then they

0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:42.480
<v Speaker 4>just all but he said he was gonna do something

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:43.600
<v Speaker 4>with you and he really did.

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's been a man of his word in integrity.

0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:49.800
<v Speaker 3>So shout out to him and shut out to you,

0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:52.560
<v Speaker 3>like you said, for seeing whatever it was in me,

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:54.920
<v Speaker 3>because it was a lot that I was dealing with

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:57.160
<v Speaker 3>at that time, fresh home from prison and just trying

0:57:57.160 --> 0:57:58.000
<v Speaker 3>to figure out, and.

0:57:58.040 --> 0:58:00.800
<v Speaker 1>You are really fashionate. I mean it was some years later.

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:03.760
<v Speaker 3>No, it wasn't really that much years. It was years later,

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:07.400
<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't. It was because it's about five years,

0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:11.360
<v Speaker 3>five years out of prison when you just ain't it's like,

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, you're trying to figure stuff out,

0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:15.440
<v Speaker 3>You're trying to move around.

0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 2>It was a lot.

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 3>It was a lot that I was dealing with. But

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:20.800
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate the opportunities.

0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 1>And you did not disappoint.

0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:25.040
<v Speaker 3>That's that's always I always said. But just give me

0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:27.920
<v Speaker 3>the opportunity. And I tell I tell that's what I

0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:31.200
<v Speaker 3>tell the young kids all the time. Be prepared for

0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 3>the opportunity, right, people like y'all need this and that

0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:37.120
<v Speaker 3>when you get the opportunity, you have to maximize on it.

0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:41.000
<v Speaker 3>That's one thing that I've I pride myself on. When

0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I got on FLEX and I finally got the opportunity,

0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 3>I maximized. When I got to the BT. I maximized

0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:48.920
<v Speaker 3>when I got what's called.

0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:51.600
<v Speaker 2>The BT cipher. You are maximized.

0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Right when I was on the ten ten fifteen stage

0:58:55.080 --> 0:58:59.840
<v Speaker 3>at the Millionaire, I'm maximized. Like I always said, when

0:58:59.840 --> 0:59:02.280
<v Speaker 3>you get the opportunity, you have to make sure that

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:03.240
<v Speaker 3>you maximize it.

0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:06.400
<v Speaker 4>So I was gonna I'm laughing because there are two

0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:12.080
<v Speaker 4>people on the internet who to me are like literally hilarious,

0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:15.680
<v Speaker 4>but they are not joking. They serious as a doorknob,

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 4>but they're hilarious. And that's Coach Stormy and.

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Applies.

0:59:22.560 --> 0:59:26.880
<v Speaker 4>And so the other day Coach Stormy posted a video

0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:31.160
<v Speaker 4>of Plies saying, don't call me with no problems. I

0:59:31.200 --> 0:59:33.880
<v Speaker 4>don't care, I don't want to hear it. Don't call

0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:36.920
<v Speaker 4>me complaining about why.

0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:37.960
<v Speaker 1>You can't do it.

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:41.600
<v Speaker 4>You try, but you can't, but it ain't I don't know,

0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:45.640
<v Speaker 4>he said, I know enough about problems as long as

0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:48.680
<v Speaker 4>there is breath in my body. If you just wake

0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:51.200
<v Speaker 4>me up, I'm gonna figure something out. Every single day,

0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:53.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna figure something out. And Coach Storm is over there,

0:59:53.880 --> 0:59:55.640
<v Speaker 4>like this is what I'm talking about, because you know,

0:59:56.000 --> 1:00:00.760
<v Speaker 4>they're both very intense individuals. But I can see from

1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:05.080
<v Speaker 4>in her situation somebody that came from God knows. I mean,

1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:07.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, her mom passed, watched when she was younger.

1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:10.760
<v Speaker 4>She's been through a lot. She came through poverty, through

1:00:10.840 --> 1:00:13.680
<v Speaker 4>all the streets of Miami, the whole thing, to being

1:00:13.720 --> 1:00:16.680
<v Speaker 4>a stripper and all of that, and now here she

1:00:16.880 --> 1:00:20.440
<v Speaker 4>is not only making money. She's not she's not just

1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:22.960
<v Speaker 4>making money, but she also has made millionaires.

1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:24.880
<v Speaker 1>And I know because I saw them. I was dead.

1:00:25.000 --> 1:00:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I see them, and there are people I love.

1:00:27.440 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, she she's done that, and so she don't

1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:34.720
<v Speaker 4>really want to hear you with your storyline. The bus,

1:00:34.720 --> 1:00:37.280
<v Speaker 4>but I was on my way. I was on my way.

1:00:37.360 --> 1:00:39.520
<v Speaker 4>I'll try to get down there. But then the bus

1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:42.600
<v Speaker 4>broke down. And then when I got off the bus,

1:00:42.640 --> 1:00:45.280
<v Speaker 4>it was cold, it was raining. I had to stand

1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:49.280
<v Speaker 4>under the ship. And then I tried, but I couldn't

1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:49.560
<v Speaker 4>make it.

1:00:49.640 --> 1:00:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't. I couldn't download the software. I just don't

1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:53.560
<v Speaker 1>nobody want.

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<v Speaker 3>To hear that, bloody don't want to hear it, especially

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<v Speaker 3>not us. And that kind of brings me to my

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get it because I don't get it kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fits into that, right, because the reality of the

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<v Speaker 3>situation is I've been sitting back right with this whole

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<v Speaker 3>d diversity, equity and inclusion. God, we've been just dealing

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<v Speaker 3>with I know you did, but I was just because

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<v Speaker 3>I go on the internet, right, and there are these

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<v Speaker 3>narratives that we have brought into as black people, right,

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<v Speaker 3>that nobody else has brought into. Right when we look

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<v Speaker 3>at when we look at all of the institutions, the opportunities,

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<v Speaker 3>the benefits, the resources, every other group of people benefits

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<v Speaker 3>and capitalizes off of resources in America. Right, if we

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<v Speaker 3>look at if you look at welfare, were not the

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<v Speaker 3>people that get the most welfare.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't capitalize the most off welfare. Right. If you

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<v Speaker 2>look at d.

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<v Speaker 1>We get criminalized for getting well.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is what I'm trying to tell you, Like

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<v Speaker 3>we we we don't benefit the most off welfare. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>White people get more welfare than anybody. Right, Jewish people

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<v Speaker 3>capitalize off the systems where they housing and all of

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<v Speaker 3>those things.

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<v Speaker 2>They capitalize off of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>The Asians come here and they capitalize off resources they

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<v Speaker 3>come in. The Dominicans, everybody comes.

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<v Speaker 6>Here and get they get they get funded, they get grants,

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<v Speaker 6>everybody gets funded to do something, and nobody calls it

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<v Speaker 6>a handout.

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<v Speaker 3>Black people who were brought here and chained and shackle

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<v Speaker 3>who have did labor for free here, who for four

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<v Speaker 3>hundred years were stripped of everything that they own.

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<v Speaker 1>We.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but it's all us. But I just want us

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<v Speaker 2>to understand we have we have.

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<v Speaker 3>Martin Luther King said that the best we are the

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<v Speaker 3>only people have who have been who have been enslaved

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<v Speaker 3>on American soil. We are the only people who have

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<v Speaker 3>been stripped of our land, brought here with nothing and

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<v Speaker 3>given absolutely nothing. But somehow they made us believe that

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<v Speaker 3>they shouldn't give us nothing. And if we take something

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<v Speaker 3>from this government that we pretty much built in America,

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<v Speaker 3>that we built, that it's a handout, right like they

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<v Speaker 3>made it to They're telling you they made us. This

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<v Speaker 3>is the craziest, it's the most craziest shit in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, d I what you need something from them?

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<v Speaker 2>For what do you mean they took our shit?

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<v Speaker 3>They literally took everything from us, and they're not even

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<v Speaker 3>giving us one percent of the shit that they owe us.

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<v Speaker 3>And you make it seem like we we there's something

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<v Speaker 3>wrong with us forgetting the shit that they took, like

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't even make sense. Only black people your only

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<v Speaker 3>black people. You see people pontificating there on the internet.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't need nothing from nobody, but the rich people

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<v Speaker 3>need something from someone. The people that own this land,

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<v Speaker 3>they getting all of the benefits. They getting the free shit,

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<v Speaker 3>they getting the welfare, they getting the Social Security, they

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<v Speaker 3>getting all of the stuff, they get the d I

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<v Speaker 3>they figured the white women's figuring it. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>and give me this d y'all. I'm gonna get this check.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna put this and make sure my son got it.

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<v Speaker 3>And y'all want us to believe that every.

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<v Speaker 1>Time you get the E.

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<v Speaker 2>But what do you mean you're going, I'm gonna benefit

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<v Speaker 2>of it?

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<v Speaker 3>Right because I understand, I understand that these programs exist. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go get like everybody else said, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get the food stamps, I'm gonna get this and that,

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<v Speaker 3>and they'll tell us. Oh man, you you want to

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<v Speaker 3>hand out. You're looking for No, I'm not looking for

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<v Speaker 3>a handout. I want to be able to benefit the

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<v Speaker 3>same way everybody else's benefits because I'm gonna build my

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<v Speaker 3>own ship. But they have benefits that we can get

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<v Speaker 3>because these rich people is getting the benefits. They getting

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<v Speaker 3>free housing, they getting They telling their daughter and the wife,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't need to go over there and get that

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<v Speaker 3>free stuff over there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're telling them to get m w B.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the white woman becomes her husband is the construction owner,

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<v Speaker 4>but the white woman will put it in her name

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<v Speaker 4>so that it can be under a minority women business.

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<v Speaker 3>They figured out how to beat the system. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>like what Donald Trump said, y'all created the system. I

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<v Speaker 3>ain't paying taxes because why should I. Y'all got the

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<v Speaker 3>system there, y'all know the same way y'all get. Why

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<v Speaker 3>do black people think that they're not supposed to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out how to benefit off the system. Why do they

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<v Speaker 3>make us believe that we shouldn't be able to capitalize

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<v Speaker 3>off the shit that's there for us to capitalize.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you make me think that.

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<v Speaker 3>If I tell a young boys growing up in the community,

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<v Speaker 3>he worked hard. He went to school, he did this,

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<v Speaker 3>and he studied, and now he wants to work at

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<v Speaker 3>a job and they have a diversity, equity inclusion. He

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<v Speaker 3>goes there, he's looking.

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<v Speaker 2>For a hand out.

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<v Speaker 3>He studied his whole life to go to that school.

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<v Speaker 3>He studied his whole life to get that job. Everybody

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<v Speaker 3>is not an entrepreneur. Everybody ain't gonna do the same shit.

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<v Speaker 3>So trying to make people feel like they are not

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<v Speaker 3>worthy or they're somehow weaker because they want to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to get the resources that are afforded to them

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<v Speaker 3>in America as black people. It's crazy to me. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is the reason why. This is the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>we're still in the same reason, while we still only

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<v Speaker 3>represent two percent of the wealth, everybody keep having we

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<v Speaker 3>got we got so many people who talk about how

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<v Speaker 3>we can do this, and we need to be doing

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<v Speaker 3>this for own we you know, everybody else is figuring

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<v Speaker 3>out They come in here and they getting the resources

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<v Speaker 3>and they getting three and four stores. Right, we ain't

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<v Speaker 3>figuring out how to get the grants in our community

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<v Speaker 3>because y'all made the people think it's a handout or

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want that. Bottom line is there's a certain

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<v Speaker 3>way that you can save your money. That's the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm trying to tell you, because that's what

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<v Speaker 3>they do. They figure out how to save their money.

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<v Speaker 3>They get they get housing, they get welfare, they get

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<v Speaker 3>food stamps, and they make their money and they put

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<v Speaker 3>their check in the draw and they stack it up

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<v Speaker 3>until they're able to buy a house. Like people, this

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<v Speaker 3>is what this is what everybody else is doing. We

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<v Speaker 3>the only one that's not doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't say we don't do it. I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>very and zero you know, zero sum or get absolutes

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<v Speaker 4>we shouldn't do because I don't think that we don't

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<v Speaker 4>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for the most we have nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>But we could.

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<v Speaker 4>We can look at how to take the conscious like

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<v Speaker 4>for instance, in these different places where you have anti

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<v Speaker 4>violence groups and otherwise getting you know that can apply

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<v Speaker 4>for contracts.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to get the contracts to do the anti

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<v Speaker 4>violence work or to open up youth services, food services

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<v Speaker 4>and all of that, and not feel bad because we

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<v Speaker 4>got a contract from the city, or even because we

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<v Speaker 4>got food stamps or medicaid or whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 4>But I do understand why the stigma has been attached

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<v Speaker 4>to it, not just from us, It's not all just

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<v Speaker 4>black people. There's a stigma that has been attached to

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<v Speaker 4>these things in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Woah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm trying to I hear what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe that the stigma has been attached to

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<v Speaker 3>it because everybody else is capitalized.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm saying for black people, and it's not only

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<v Speaker 4>us that.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the problem. They put the stigma on it

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<v Speaker 3>for us. They don't put the stigma on it for

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<v Speaker 3>nobody else. There's nobody else there's stigmatized by that. So

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<v Speaker 3>my thing is, I don't get it. And when we

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<v Speaker 3>wake up and we figure out how do we benefit

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<v Speaker 3>off this system that has benefited us for us for years,

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<v Speaker 3>while we're still doing whatever else we need to be

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<v Speaker 3>doing at the same time for centuries exactly, and while

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<v Speaker 3>we're still building and calculating and then figuring out how we

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<v Speaker 3>build our own business. But we capitalize all of the

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<v Speaker 3>things that's old to us, then we're gonna get a

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<v Speaker 3>lot further. Until then, we're gonna keep having the same

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<v Speaker 3>conversation that we've been having for the last one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 3>I hear that and with that said, that brings us

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