Speaker 1: All right, Seawan, So let's start with a topic that
Speaker 1: is getting a lot of discussion so far on Monday
Speaker 1: and in the aftermath of the Bills and the Ravens game.
Speaker 1: Let's pretend you are in charge of the Ravens football team.
Speaker 1: They now have gotten into the postseason three straight years
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson, They've gotten one win, they have lost
Speaker 1: three times, and what has let them down most often
Speaker 1: has been their offense. How do you fix what is
Speaker 1: wrong with the raven offense? And what would you do?
Speaker 1: Looking if you were GM of the Ravens right now? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, for one, you have the most athletic and
Speaker 1: most dynamic quarterback in all of football. Right, he drafted him.
Speaker 1: He knew exactly what he was great at doing. So
Speaker 1: there's no shinn away from an offense or offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: that's gonna need to design things specifically for him. Right,
Speaker 1: he's got a drop that guy and sit back there
Speaker 1: and deliver a ball in the pocket all time. And
Speaker 1: he's a be a uh sixty forty run the past
Speaker 1: type of deal. Uh So, if you're gonna go out
Speaker 1: and get a coach, you need someone on as offers
Speaker 1: the coordinator that that that things outside the box and
Speaker 1: get creative like an Andy Reid. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: gonna get Andy read, but you need to be You
Speaker 1: need to find a coach that's going to allow Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson to uh to open this offense up. You know,
Speaker 1: it can't be the dink and dunk uh read option.
Speaker 1: You need to really open it up and realize what
Speaker 1: you have at at quarterback, but also make sure that
Speaker 1: he's enough threat that he can deliver a great ball
Speaker 1: down until he's done it in the playoffs. You know,
Speaker 1: these last few games, uh and later on in the season,
Speaker 1: he's delivering a great football. You know he can throw
Speaker 1: a ball, but he's not consistent. So you need to
Speaker 1: find them. Go out and find an offensive coordinator that's
Speaker 1: gonna really open it up and start thinking outside the
Speaker 1: box because they keep hitting the wall and they and
Speaker 1: defense are figuring these guys out of thinking. Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: said that during the season, he said, defense are coming
Speaker 1: up to the line of scrimmage and calling our plays out.
Speaker 1: That's telling me that you're off is basic and you
Speaker 1: need to get out of of what you're normally doing. Okay, Uh.
Speaker 1: The play that everybody is going to focus on because
Speaker 1: it really decided the game was the pick six. And
Speaker 1: obviously Lamar Jackson made a bad read on that interception.
Speaker 1: But one thing that I heard from several different people
Speaker 1: about was they were surprised that he didn't get in
Speaker 1: a position to make the tackle there. He's the fastest
Speaker 1: guy on the field. Uh, he really kind of didn't
Speaker 1: make an aggressive move when he had a blocker in
Speaker 1: front of him coming down the field. As good as
Speaker 1: that Ravens defense was playing, I'm not sure even if
Speaker 1: they didn't give up the touchdown on that return, whether
Speaker 1: the Bills would have been able to get the ball
Speaker 1: in the end zone there. How would you assess the playmaking,
Speaker 1: the effort making, for lack of a better way to
Speaker 1: describe it, of what you saw from Lamar Jackson on
Speaker 1: that play. Once he throws the interception, should he have
Speaker 1: gotten over there and made a play. Do you think
Speaker 1: he was surprised the ball got brought out? How did
Speaker 1: he not end up in front of the return man? Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, Look what we can think of that
Speaker 1: all day. And I do agree that he should have
Speaker 1: probably sacrificed his body a little bit more than what
Speaker 1: he did. Like if you watch that on If you
Speaker 1: watch that on tape, would you want your quarterback in
Speaker 1: a in a playoff game like that to just be
Speaker 1: throwing himself at whatever he can do to try and
Speaker 1: get in front of that guy returning the interception. I wouldn't. Personally,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. You really wouldn't. You gotta you gotta, Well,
Speaker 1: you wanted to make the best effort possible, but he
Speaker 1: did have a blocker in front of him. Yeah. Uh there,
Speaker 1: Now you're going out putting putting your quarterback hom's way,
Speaker 1: Because I can tell you right now, as a defensive player,
Speaker 1: the first people that we always looked up after an interception,
Speaker 1: it's the quarterback. Yeah, you know, you want to get
Speaker 1: a hit on him if you can. You want to
Speaker 1: get a hit on him if you can. And he's
Speaker 1: always the one that's going to uh to slow up
Speaker 1: the worst way or a wide receivers you know, track
Speaker 1: you down, tend of to team twenty yards on the field.
Speaker 1: But ultimately it's really the quarterback where you're looking up
Speaker 1: and you're trying to find first. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: to go out and intentionally heard him doing anything like that,
Speaker 1: but those are the guys you want to get a
Speaker 1: lick on because those are the ones that can actually
Speaker 1: stop to play. So I wasn't. If I'm a teammate, Um,
Speaker 1: you might say, oh, you know, man, he could have
Speaker 1: he could have done a little bit more, but you're
Speaker 1: not saying it, or what if he'd done a little
Speaker 1: bit more, that play definitely wouldn't have been stopped. They
Speaker 1: wouldn't have uh, they wouldn't have scored, right, So that's
Speaker 1: that that wasn't the case. But look at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, um that they this is a cigarette
Speaker 1: out over there, because you only have a two or
Speaker 1: three window, a three year window to mac to maximum.
Speaker 1: You know, contracts gonna be up, You're gonna have players
Speaker 1: in and out and guys coming in and out of
Speaker 1: coaches in and out. So you got about a three
Speaker 1: year window when you're looking at that type of talent,
Speaker 1: cohesive talent before everything started getting you know, dismantled. We're
Speaker 1: talking to Sean Merriman Lights Out podcast I Heeart Podcasting Network.
Speaker 1: You've played for the Bills flip side of that game.
Speaker 1: What does it mean for Buffalo to be back in
Speaker 1: the a f C Championship game and how much are
Speaker 1: you rooting for them. As a guy who played for
Speaker 1: the Bills among other teams, are you rooting for them
Speaker 1: pretty aggressively against the Chiefs? Would you like to see
Speaker 1: the Bills back in the super Bowl? And for people
Speaker 1: who don't know and for people who don't know Buffalo
Speaker 1: and the culture and the environment up there, what's it like?
Speaker 1: You know what? Um? It means everything to that city
Speaker 1: and I'm so damn happy for them. Uh. The only
Speaker 1: part that this kind of you know, makes me unhappy
Speaker 1: about the situation is the fans don't get a chance
Speaker 1: to go to the games. And yeah, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you want to do it? Between six and
Speaker 1: I think something like that. Yeah, yeah, So you know
Speaker 1: this like, man, when you play in that city and
Speaker 1: you see what the fans mean to that team and
Speaker 1: vice versa, and you're thinking of the fans are not
Speaker 1: able to attend, that's that's that's a gut punch, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, it really knocks to win out of you
Speaker 1: as a fan, because you know, I remember going out
Speaker 1: there and and uh making Tom Brady throw for an
Speaker 1: exceptions that we beat the Patriots. It was a parade.
Speaker 1: The city got shut down, and it was one of
Speaker 1: the most exciting things I've ever seen in my whole
Speaker 1: entire career. You have thought we won a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: for beating Tom Brady, so I can only imagine a
Speaker 1: f C championship. I mean, you're kidding me that that place,
Speaker 1: that place is gonna be rocketed. Now they won't be
Speaker 1: in the stadium, well you can, You're gonna You're gonna
Speaker 1: find that that builds Masfia somewhere piled up and slamming
Speaker 1: through tables and barbecuing and drinking to one and having
Speaker 1: the best time, because there's nothing like playing for that city. Man.
Speaker 1: It really is a special place. And if they go
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, man, I can't even tell you
Speaker 1: what what that city is gonna look like. After we're
Speaker 1: talking to Sean Merriman Lights Out podcast. When you watched
Speaker 1: the way that Aaron Rodgers is playing right now, should
Speaker 1: the like who? Okay, let's take a step back. We
Speaker 1: know that Patrick Mahomes is injured. We know that of
Speaker 1: probably everybody who played over the Divisional round weekend, the
Speaker 1: Packers look the best. Do you think that what Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers and the Packers are doing right now, given all
Speaker 1: the other situations that you would have to say that
Speaker 1: the Packers are the favorite, or would you pick somebody else? No,
Speaker 1: And I've been saying this, Um, you know, I thought
Speaker 1: it was gonna be the Packers and the Chiefs in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. That was that was my prediction. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, so when the mid mid early season, and
Speaker 1: I've been saying that because they if you look at it,
Speaker 1: there probably have the two most explosive teams in football.
Speaker 1: But one thing the Packers are doing is making it
Speaker 1: even scarier now is they're running the ball even more effectively,
Speaker 1: and they're finding ways to to get the running back
Speaker 1: and uh, you know out and open positions and things
Speaker 1: like that. Now Aaron Rodgers didn't have to go out
Speaker 1: there and be Superman every single time. When you're winning
Speaker 1: football games like that, Uh, it just takes the win
Speaker 1: out of you. You it just demoralizes the defense because
Speaker 1: you're sitting there like, you know that Aaron Rodgers gonna
Speaker 1: get his you know, he's gonna go out and let
Speaker 1: you up. But now they're starting to run the ball
Speaker 1: and they're playing well on defense and the special teams.
Speaker 1: You're like, man, this this is gonna be a very
Speaker 1: very tough team to beat. We're talking to Dr David
Speaker 1: Chow talked to him in the first hour. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play it again in the third hour. Obviously, the number
Speaker 1: one story as we get ready for the a f
Speaker 1: C in the NFC Championship Games is Patrick Mahomess health.
Speaker 1: He went out with a concussion, and we won't know
Speaker 1: for several days officially, how he's going to be able
Speaker 1: to play, whether he will be able to play, all
Speaker 1: of those things. If you are a defensive player and
Speaker 1: you are trying to get ready as a Buffalo Bill,
Speaker 1: I presume that you just have to assume that he's
Speaker 1: going to play, and that he's going to play the
Speaker 1: exact way that he normally plays, that is in his
Speaker 1: typical dominant fashion. Because if you presume for anything else
Speaker 1: you're not prepared. Is that the way mentally you have
Speaker 1: to get ready, even with the outside chance that it
Speaker 1: might be Chad Henny, just go ahead and prepare for
Speaker 1: mahomes And if you get Henny, that's just an easier version,
Speaker 1: certainly of the quarterback. Otherwise, absolutely, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I'll say this, it wouldn't be a smart idea to
Speaker 1: assume that past ma Homes. It's not gonna be Patrick
Speaker 1: the Homes because he might have a concussion. So if
Speaker 1: you're having that, uh, you know, those thoughts in your head,
Speaker 1: you need to get rid of them right away. Him.
Speaker 1: I'll never I'll never forget. Uh. You know. Back in um,
Speaker 1: you know, around two thousand and ten or two thousand
Speaker 1: and eleven, I think it was, uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: got injured and I was hurt, and it was it
Speaker 1: was kind of out there that my achilles was torn. Um.
Speaker 1: And I had an offensive coordinator come up to me
Speaker 1: before the game and said, look, we're prepared as if
Speaker 1: you were healthy, because we didn't know if you're gonna
Speaker 1: be healthy or not, so we were paying it that
Speaker 1: you were a pent. And so when you have that mindset,
Speaker 1: you go into the game, UM, with this with you Now.
Speaker 1: You know, I know you don't want to wish a
Speaker 1: guy get hurt. You know you're bad health with anybody,
Speaker 1: but you wouldn't mind as a defensive player with Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes coming into the game and not being a hundred percent,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't mind that, right, Um. And then so you
Speaker 1: have to go out and prepare that he's gonna be
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. He's gonna coming ready to go. He's gonna
Speaker 1: come in more eager than than he was before because
Speaker 1: he didn't leave the game. And there's so much question
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a lot of fuel to this
Speaker 1: fire man. But I tell you that I like the
Speaker 1: Bill and I've been saying it. Um, Josh Allen is
Speaker 1: to me is the one of the hottest, you know,
Speaker 1: top three quarterbacks in the the National Football League right now,
Speaker 1: the way he played, And uh, the Bill is gonna
Speaker 1: be fortunate records and if they do lose the game,
Speaker 1: it's going to be very close. What would you say
Speaker 1: about the Browns? We got a lot of Cleveland fans,
Speaker 1: I'm sure who are listening this morning, Uh, starting off
Speaker 1: their day. They've got a playoff win this year. They
Speaker 1: made the playoffs. Really they had the ball. I don't
Speaker 1: know about you, but after the Chad Henny interception when
Speaker 1: the Browns got the ball back there, I really kind
Speaker 1: of thought they tightened up a little bit in their
Speaker 1: play calling and their execution. It didn't seem like they
Speaker 1: really had that killer instinct maybe that you would want
Speaker 1: to see. What would you say to Browns fans waking
Speaker 1: up this morning and listening to us, They need to
Speaker 1: be proud of that team is how far are they've
Speaker 1: come just some years ago to Browns were and not
Speaker 1: not very long ago, just a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: the Browns were a joke, right, You're going to look
Speaker 1: at the organization and how many gms that pad coaches
Speaker 1: and players in and out of there, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: they were a guaranteed w on your on your on
Speaker 1: your schedule, that's how they were viewed. And now just
Speaker 1: in a couple of years they're a real threat to everyone,
Speaker 1: every NFL team in the National Football League there. If
Speaker 1: you're going to if you're going to play the Browns now,
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, if you're the Chiefs
Speaker 1: or uh you know, whoever you are, you're going and
Speaker 1: playing the brown And not to mention they're the best
Speaker 1: team in the division in my opinion, they're they're they're
Speaker 1: now the big brother. They're now the big brother in
Speaker 1: that division. So Brown, the Brown's fans should be proud
Speaker 1: and how far they've come. We're talking to Sean Merriman
Speaker 1: Lights Out podcast. You can go listen to to that
Speaker 1: and make sure you don't miss any that he's doing.
Speaker 1: Any of the podcasts that he's doing for. I heart Sean.
Speaker 1: How tired and beaten up physically is your body By
Speaker 1: the time you get to the a f C in
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, you're you're so beat up. I mean,
Speaker 1: look that first snap in training camp, you're never one
Speaker 1: healthy after that. That's very first snap. You know you
Speaker 1: got a risk or elbow or lower back or tow
Speaker 1: or hip, I mean something. It's it's something the whole week.
Speaker 1: You know, one week's get your knee is a little
Speaker 1: sword of next week your ankle on the opposite leg
Speaker 1: because your compensating for your dee, right. So it just
Speaker 1: goes on from week to week to week. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know when we talk last week about having the
Speaker 1: first round by that's why the first round byes are
Speaker 1: so key. Obviously you want to play at home and
Speaker 1: those those great things, But it's health. At this point
Speaker 1: during the year, it's who is who's the healthiest, who's healthiest.
Speaker 1: That's really what it comes down to, is pachon hole
Speaker 1: is gonna be a hundred percent? Is this guy's gonna
Speaker 1: be a percent? It really comes down to health because
Speaker 1: you know that if you've got all your horses, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be in good shape, man, But I could tell
Speaker 1: you it's it's you're mentally being physically beat up. You're
Speaker 1: mentally beat up. Uh. The season is so along and
Speaker 1: get trying to find ways to just refocus and keep
Speaker 1: taking things up another level. You know, we talked a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago about the preseason and going into the
Speaker 1: regular season and now the playoff speed and in the
Speaker 1: f C and NFC championship games. I mean, my god,
Speaker 1: these guys are just gonna be flying around when you
Speaker 1: look now that the NFL, I mean, knock on wood,
Speaker 1: we have gotten to the a f C, We've gotten
Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship game. When you really break that down,
Speaker 1: it's an amazing accomplishment that we're still on schedule with
Speaker 1: the NFL, isn't it. I mean, to even be in
Speaker 1: this position right now, it almost seemed like they pulled
Speaker 1: off the impossible, right. I mean it really, it really does.
Speaker 1: Because if you look at how the season started coming,
Speaker 1: coming right from the NBA season, going into the bubble,
Speaker 1: everything shut down and whatever, and you've seen guys still
Speaker 1: getting fine, and now you're going to the football season
Speaker 1: and look what Denver had never had. We didn't have
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback, and they found a way to not
Speaker 1: only have no the game wasn't the greatest and the
Speaker 1: like that, but there was no there was nothing they
Speaker 1: had to cancel. The season went on, and so they
Speaker 1: found ways to um to continue. And I think that
Speaker 1: at some point in time there's going to be because
Speaker 1: we we don't we don't know everything goes on from
Speaker 1: the outside looking in, So there's at some point in time,
Speaker 1: I'm sure NFL Films if somebody has done something in
Speaker 1: the backgrounds to show how much stuff they had to
Speaker 1: go through during the season in order to continue. And
Speaker 1: it's going to shock to a lot of people because
Speaker 1: I'm sure there were fights in the office. There were
Speaker 1: probably fights with CDC, and I mean, there was so
Speaker 1: much going on behind the scenes that we didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to see. But it's just been incredible for
Speaker 1: them to continue the season where they have. How stunted
Speaker 1: This is not relating to the games themselves, but this
Speaker 1: story about Deshaun Watson and what's going on with the Texans.
Speaker 1: How stunned are you that there are reports that things
Speaker 1: might be so bad that his tenure with the Texans
Speaker 1: might be over. I would agree, it's unbelievable, right, it
Speaker 1: is unbelieve What is a couple of things, right, I
Speaker 1: mean we we as players understand one that it's a business. Right,
Speaker 1: We we get it. We're not you know, it's not
Speaker 1: a passion for us like when we were growing up
Speaker 1: and played football in the street in the backyard and
Speaker 1: it was just about passion and loving the game and everything.
Speaker 1: We understand it's a business. We understand the organization and
Speaker 1: teams are gonna do what's necessary for the organization and
Speaker 1: moving forward. But when you have your franchise quarterback, a
Speaker 1: very well, very well respected quarterback amongst his peers in
Speaker 1: the whole National Football League, really good guy that everybody
Speaker 1: loves from respect, and you don't give him a decency
Speaker 1: to end just bring him in on the meeting and say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're thinking about bringing this guy in. This is who
Speaker 1: we're looking at. This is you know, this is the
Speaker 1: CEO of your franchise. So you're telling me that you're
Speaker 1: not gonna go and talk to your CEO and just
Speaker 1: have a discussion with him and say, hey, we're thinking
Speaker 1: about bringing this guy, what do you think Or we're
Speaker 1: thinking about trading this guy. You traded his there his
Speaker 1: best talk target. And you know, DeAndre Hopkins, you got
Speaker 1: rid of the head coach, You're getting rid of all
Speaker 1: the guys. And then most importantly, what I enjoyed the
Speaker 1: most out everything in Candida. I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: seen it not with Andre Johnson um coming out and
Speaker 1: saying that they're used to they're they're they're used to
Speaker 1: wasting guy's careers, and he would talking about himself. Andre
Speaker 1: Johnson was one of the best wide receivers in the
Speaker 1: National Football League, but he didn't get the notoriety because
Speaker 1: they just didn't make a lot of smart moves there
Speaker 1: within the organization. So I'm happy, and I do agree
Speaker 1: that he should take it to make his stand and
Speaker 1: stand his ground because the NFL careers aren't long. They
Speaker 1: aren't long, and if you're continuously being put in bad
Speaker 1: situations by your organization, then maybe it's time for you
Speaker 1: to go. It is interesting, right, because NBA players have
Speaker 1: way more power than almost any other athlete. Right, there
Speaker 1: aren't very many of them. The best of them are
Speaker 1: worth their weight in old right. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: big difference between the top ten NBA player in the
Speaker 1: top one hundred maybe in a way that there isn't
Speaker 1: in other sports, you know, baseball or Top fifty. I
Speaker 1: should say, right, there's a big like it's easy for
Speaker 1: you and me to watch basketball and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that dude's a you know, definite, definite all star versus
Speaker 1: a role play or things like that, which is maybe
Speaker 1: not as easy everywhere else. But I can't remember a
Speaker 1: guy making a move like this, right, making an aggressive
Speaker 1: play and just saying basically, I'm unhappy. It feels a
Speaker 1: little bit because it's the same city. Like what James
Speaker 1: Harden just did with the Rockets. It's very similar. Actually
Speaker 1: if you look at it across the board, and and
Speaker 1: let me tell you that the NFL, when it comes
Speaker 1: to star power and things like that, there it is
Speaker 1: catching up to the NBA level. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: Lebron James and James hard any one of these guys.
Speaker 1: But you know, someone like Deshaun Watson if he's unhappy, uh,
Speaker 1: and he's voicing his concerns. Now you have Andre Johnson,
Speaker 1: Now you have all these guys kind of backing them. Uh.
Speaker 1: It is looking very bad on an organization. It's tough
Speaker 1: to get a coach in that situation too, right, I
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be tough to get a free agent.
Speaker 1: You know, guys going around and look at their teams
Speaker 1: and saying, man, I don't I don't know if I
Speaker 1: want to go there. I've seen how they treated I've
Speaker 1: seen what they did to DeAndre Hopkins and doyn't think
Speaker 1: that the players don't talk like that. All the guys do, so,
Speaker 1: you know, their friends or their agents or friends and
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, you know, goes on all the time.
Speaker 1: And the first thing, you know, somebody saying, hey, man,
Speaker 1: how's that organization over there? Over there? And I remember
Speaker 1: doing that even when I went to Buffaloh you know, hey,
Speaker 1: how did they treat guys over there? And everything? Oh? Ben,
Speaker 1: They're great, great organization of all good things. Now, if
Speaker 1: you're public about how you're treating your players like they are,
Speaker 1: it's just not going to turn out well for you.
Speaker 1: When did you recognize the business side of the game
Speaker 1: for the first time, because you're talking about you know,
Speaker 1: running around in your backyard, you know, playing with your friends, Uh,
Speaker 1: low level football? Was it when you were at Maryland?
Speaker 1: Was it when you got into the nf FELL Was
Speaker 1: there a lightbulb moment for you where it's like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: like this isn't really a game anymore. It's a business,
Speaker 1: and my mindset has to change. Did you have that
Speaker 1: sort of epiphany, that moment of realization lightbulb moment, as
Speaker 1: I said, or was it something gradual. Do you remember
Speaker 1: having that recollection or that knowledge. Well, I've always been
Speaker 1: on the on the business side and kind of the
Speaker 1: business mindset of things, right, I've never walked in blind
Speaker 1: and thinking that whole you know, hey, I'm I'm go
Speaker 1: get the quarterbacks, so they should love me right now.
Speaker 1: It was always they love it because I can't go
Speaker 1: get the quarterback, right, I mean, that's that's the way
Speaker 1: it is. And but I think it kind of started
Speaker 1: to sinking a little bit more when I got I
Speaker 1: got injured a couple of times with the first big injury,
Speaker 1: and then the trade talks started to happening, right, And
Speaker 1: I was just a few years straight off for the
Speaker 1: All Pro and Pro Bowl and run off of the
Speaker 1: sensor player again all this stuff, and it was and
Speaker 1: I got hurt, and it was like the trade talks,
Speaker 1: like damn, you know, I just that's just been balling
Speaker 1: for you. Know these last two years, and so it
Speaker 1: kind of it kind of sunk in a little bit
Speaker 1: more because when you're playing at your highest level or
Speaker 1: whenever you're doing the things just supposed to you don't
Speaker 1: think it's possible for a team to do anything other
Speaker 1: than pay you right or take care of their take
Speaker 1: care of their best talent or the best players, or
Speaker 1: whatever the case is. And it starts to sink in
Speaker 1: when when the trade talks. And I remember watching it,
Speaker 1: watching the draft and my name coming up as a
Speaker 1: possible trade right there while I'm watching. I had no idea.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that I was even on the
Speaker 1: trading blocks or anything like that. I was watching the draft.
Speaker 1: I remember, uh them bringing ups Hey you know, thinks
Speaker 1: Sean Ramon might be on the move, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: hell if you know, Like no one told me. So
Speaker 1: I think that those type of things, uh start to
Speaker 1: sink in. Um, But it's way different now. It's more
Speaker 1: if guys walk into it and treated as such as
Speaker 1: a business even though it is their passion to play football.
Speaker 1: And I think the money has gotten so great, Uh,
Speaker 1: there's so much revenue built in the sport now that
Speaker 1: guys walk in with that mentality, for the most part,
Speaker 1: good stuff is always Sean, We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. You gotta thank list that is Shawn Merriman,
Speaker 1: lights Out Podcast Network,