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Speaker 1: What's up his way up with Angela Yee And you know,

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Speaker 1: I love when you come up here. Joy Ann Reid

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Speaker 1: And I just want to start this off by saying, congratulations,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've grown really fast. It was so freaky.

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Speaker 2: We got an email from YouTube this morning. I woke

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Speaker 2: up to them saying, hey, we love what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: We want a partner. And so it's like when we

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Speaker 2: got their attention, that means we're doing something.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's so congratulations on that. I love it.

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Speaker 1: And I love the unfiltered way that you're able to speak.

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Speaker 1: I always tell you that. But it was really important

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Speaker 1: for me to have you up here right now because Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: everything that's going on there, everything that's going on here

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Speaker 1: with ICE, the Affordable Care Act, there's so much happening,

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Speaker 1: and I really want to make sure that we're intentional

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Speaker 1: about where we consume information from, because, as you pointed

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Speaker 1: out on The Joy Read Show, if you're looking at

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post, which is owned by Jeff Bezos versus

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And the problem is that so many of these

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Speaker 2: major media organizations are now owned by a billionaire or

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Speaker 2: even want I'm done with CBS News, Like I can't

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Speaker 2: even watch it anymore. Connie Chung, veteran of CBS News.

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Speaker 2: She's like she can't even watch it anymore because they're

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Speaker 2: doing things like doing a puff piece about Marco Rubio

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Speaker 2: both sides in January sixth insurrection.

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Speaker 1: He don't even know how to answer questions directly, and

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Speaker 1: like you said, when they're being interviewed by women or

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Speaker 1: you called him dickish, right, and his responses in his

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Speaker 1: get points with that administration when you're rude to in

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Speaker 1: asking you questions. Your job representing us, as you know,

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't seem like that's what's happening.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're all performing. You know, whenever Pete Hegseth,

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Speaker 2: been no change in the name of the Defense Department. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I have my I got my invisil line, so I

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Speaker 2: stretching my speech a little bit. But so you know,

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Speaker 2: Marco Rubio goes on. He did what they call the

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's break down Venezuela in layman's terms

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Speaker 1: Just to report on what actually happened, right, because, like

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Speaker 2: Your birthday January third, what a birthday present? Essentially, the

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Speaker 2: And the whole goal here is to put it very quickly,

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Speaker 2: sure we've all noticed it. They're also everywhere in Central

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Speaker 2: We have sanctions against them because Nicholas Madoro is a

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Speaker 2: The bigger story is that China is not just taking

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Speaker 1: Get jacked as and our passport is also not the

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Speaker 2: Right, And so even if people don't care, think about like,

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Speaker 2: because Trump is alienated the whole world with those tariffs,

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Speaker 1: Yeah Greenland, Like why do we want Greenland? Can you

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Speaker 2: He wants Greenland for the same reason he's saying he

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Speaker 2: wants to take over Venezuela Oil. And what they call

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Speaker 2: they're these minerals, these sort of specific minerals that are

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: So just to wrap this part up, this has nothing

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Speaker 2: The oil companies got a heads up. Our Congress did

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Speaker 3: So if you're the same people.

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Speaker 2: It's the same people. So if you're a Venezuelan who's

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Speaker 2: mine right here in Libya. He got gotten. There's a trend.

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Speaker 2: If you try to sell oil or minerals in anything

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Speaker 2: but dollars, the United States will take you down. This

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Speaker 2: was the same thing that happened that we've done before.

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Speaker 2: We did it in Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: Now some people are under the impression that Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: Now that's what Trump thinks.

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Speaker 1: And I saw Marco Rubio kind of ducking and dodging

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Speaker 2: They can't even run the United States, right they can't.

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Speaker 2: What I would say is to all of these ice

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Speaker 2: in the state of Minnesota, there's nothing Trump can do

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Speaker 2: about it. And I would not get too comfortable. These

437
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Speaker 2: people are not showing warrants, which they're required to do.

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Speaker 2: They're violating people's Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights. There's something

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Speaker 2: called a constitutional violation under color of law. And if

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Speaker 2: you are exercising undue force without asking, you know, having

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Speaker 2: a reasonable attempt to get the person to comply, you

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Speaker 2: don't have absolute immunity. That is just not true. I'm

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Speaker 2: a lawyer, but I can tell you that the lawyers

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Speaker 2: I'm talking to are saying they think they have a munity.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're acting like this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think this is Also, we have to

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Speaker 1: look at this as sets a precedent, right, because I

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Speaker 1: think with a lot of these ICE agents, they feel

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Speaker 1: like they can do whatever they want and know that

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Speaker 1: they'll be backed by the administration, by the President and

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Speaker 1: praise for doing things like this.

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Speaker 3: It is murder.

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Speaker 2: And they're also recruiting so aggressively.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Spotify is like, we're not going to

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Speaker 1: advertise anymore for ICE.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And Arrow, I think it's the company's called Arrow,

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Speaker 2: one of the airlines they've been using to fly people

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Speaker 2: out of the country. They've said, we're done, We're not

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Speaker 2: going to do business with you.

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Speaker 1: We said the Hilton hotel that actually wouldn't let them

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Speaker 1: stay there, but now Hilton cut them off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, there's no people are going to start

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Speaker 2: to treat ICE like the pariahs they really deserve to be.

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Speaker 2: And you're going to start to see that spreading home

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Speaker 2: Depot is getting boycottage.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: Stopping ICE from coming in, and you're gonna and I

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Speaker 2: think this woman because again it's not that the black

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Speaker 2: and brown lie that have been interrupted and destroyed by

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Speaker 2: ICE don't matter. They obviously matter. But you know, we

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Speaker 2: live in America this white lady, this Christian white mom,

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Speaker 2: they killed her. I think it's an em until George

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Speaker 2: Floyd moment.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I just want to respond to like

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Speaker 1: people who were in my comments saying, oh, well, these

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Speaker 1: illegals shouldn't be here. Where can Americans go and just

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Speaker 1: take up residents illegally anytime they went to there are

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Speaker 1: people who had status here that that got revoked. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at people who have lived here like basically

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Speaker 1: their whole lives and then have been deported to places

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Speaker 1: they've never even been to.

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Speaker 2: The've never been. And by the way, during the pandemic,

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Speaker 2: I saw a lot of Americans going and taking up

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Speaker 2: residents in Mexico where they're not from, because they wanted

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Speaker 2: to be in a warm space. During the pandemic, I

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Speaker 2: did go to Mexico for a lot of people did, right.

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Speaker 2: And so when Americans are saying I want to leave

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Speaker 2: the country because you know, Trump is bothering me, you

489
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Speaker 2: don't want people to say, well, you can't come here.

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Speaker 2: Americans do it all the time. It's not as if

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Speaker 2: it's only other people who do it. Americans do it too.

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Speaker 2: Americans go where they want to go and they stay

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Speaker 2: and they overstay their pieces. That's not uncommon. Then the

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Speaker 2: other thing is we always forget that there's something pulling

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Speaker 2: these people here, which is the work that most Americans

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Speaker 2: are not interested in doing. I challenge you to find

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Speaker 2: ten Americans willing to go in the fields and pick lettuce. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: no tomatoes.

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Speaker 1: Listen, it's been and we've seen how hard it's been

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Speaker 1: for certain people who say they have a team of

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Speaker 1: people they need to hire to do contracting work. And

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Speaker 1: it's been really really hard for people to even get

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Speaker 1: people who want to come to work. Even if you're

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Speaker 1: here legally, you don't know if something's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to get arrested, you're going to get detained, and.

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Speaker 3: That has happened.

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Speaker 1: I know people have said, oh, well, if you're here

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Speaker 1: and you're supposed to be here, you're fine, But it

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Speaker 1: has happened.

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Speaker 2: It has happened. And if you're in that Minneapolis neighborhood,

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Speaker 2: not only are you being terrorized by these people, as

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Speaker 2: JD Ban said, going door to door in a white

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Speaker 2: suburban neighborhood, they're tracking everyone's phone. They're using pallunteer technology

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Speaker 2: to track our phones so that they can find anyone

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Speaker 2: they think might be undocumented there because the Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: said they could racially profiling people. So a Latino who's

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Speaker 2: fully American born here, got a passport but has an

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Speaker 2: accent or is brown, they're stopping them. It feels very

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Speaker 2: much like white South Africa in the eighties. Any person

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Speaker 2: who is not white can be stopped, can be questioned

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Speaker 2: based on their accent, can have their papers demanded. People

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Speaker 2: are having to walk around people I know whose citizens

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Speaker 2: have to walk around with their passport or their birth certificate.

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Speaker 2: This is like white South Africa. Who wants to live

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Speaker 2: in a country where random men who do not have

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Speaker 2: to show you a badge, who do not have to

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Speaker 2: show you a warrant, can simply walk up to you

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Speaker 2: demand to know are you an American citizen? Can bust

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Speaker 2: into your home, no warrant, nothing, and just demand to

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Speaker 2: see your papers. This is not a country anyone who

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Speaker 2: want to visit or live in.

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Speaker 1: Now midterms are coming up, and I do see some

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Speaker 1: Republicans actually maybe feeling like they have I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know, like maybe five.

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Speaker 1: So I want to talk about have you seen or

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Speaker 1: do you feel like there's been any type of pushback

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Speaker 1: from people that you know obviously be so Marjorie Tailla Green,

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Speaker 1: and that was with the Epstein Files. But have you

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Speaker 1: seen any type of like, okay, any humanity would you say?

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Speaker 2: I would say the Epstein Files was one instance where

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Speaker 2: you did see a pushback because I think they they.

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Speaker 3: Ain't talking about that at all, no more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, also got of succeeded in getting that off the

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Speaker 2: front pages. But you are seeing people break away on

545
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Speaker 2: two things. One on this jerry mandering. In Indiana, they

546
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Speaker 2: were like, we're not jerry mandering our state for you.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump insulted one of the senior Republicans by using

548
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Speaker 2: the R word, and that man happens to have a

549
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Speaker 2: son who's emotionally it was mentally disabled, and so that

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Speaker 2: turned people off, and people were like, I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 2: So there's some states where the same, We're not going

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Speaker 2: to do jerry mandering and mess with our maps to

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Speaker 2: help you get more seats, more seats in Congress. The

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Speaker 2: other one is the Affordable Care Act. Yes, and this

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Speaker 2: is self interest. This has nothing to do with humanity.

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Speaker 2: These Republicans are going home and just like Marjorie Taylor

557
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Speaker 2: Green was saying her kids can't afford healthcare. These Republicans,

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Speaker 2: most of them are in red states that didn't expand Obamacare.

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Speaker 2: The subsidies, the federal subsidies for a lot of their

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Speaker 2: constituents are the only way they get healthcare. So people

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Speaker 2: are screaming at them, now, I need those subsidies. So

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Speaker 2: you're starting to see it. So you did see the

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Speaker 2: House defy Donald Trump use what's called a discharge petition,

564
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Speaker 2: meaning they can go around the speaker of the House

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Speaker 2: force a bill onto the floor.

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Speaker 3: And it did pass, but it still has to make

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Speaker 3: it through the Senate.

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Speaker 2: And the problem we have in the Senate is that

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Speaker 2: the sucker. The sucker has six I guess you could

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Speaker 2: call them with it, six of them that decided to

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Speaker 2: go ahead and reopen the government without getting a deal

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Speaker 2: to extend those subsidies. Now we have to see if

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Speaker 2: John Thune they have more power. The Senate works a

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Speaker 2: little differently. You can't just force things onto the floor.

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Speaker 2: And so if Republicans who have the majority don't allow

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Speaker 2: a vote on this bill, it's still dead in the water.

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Speaker 2: The House passes whatever it wants, if the Senate doesn't

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Speaker 2: take it up, it doesn't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: You know, the midterms and they Affordable Care Act. You know,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump was very upset that some Republicans in the

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Speaker 1: House sided with the Democrats. And I see the Republicans

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Speaker 1: scrambling now, like we have to really stick together. Now,

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Speaker 1: you can't go against the home team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so scared. I mean, there are a few

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Speaker 2: like Rand Paul because the other thing they're breaking away

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Speaker 2: on is whether or not we can just start a war,

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Speaker 2: whether or not the White House.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, And they actually have attempted to say no,

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Speaker 1: you can't do whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: And a few that I was surprised about Josh Hawley

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Speaker 2: signed on. That was like seven of them who are like,

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Speaker 2: you can't just start a war, right, So, and Rand

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Speaker 2: Paul's been very consistent, just as Massy, Congressman Massy on

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Speaker 2: the House side has been consistent about some things. I

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Speaker 2: don't count on Republicans to stand against Trump. In the end.

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Speaker 2: They always fold because they're too afraid of his base.

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Speaker 2: They're too afraid of his supporters, and his supporters are

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Speaker 2: a religious cult. They're going to do whatever Trump wants,

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Speaker 2: and I think in the end they just do what

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Speaker 2: he says.

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Speaker 1: All right, So what should we be doing now as

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Speaker 1: I want to say this, I was in San Quari

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Speaker 1: when everything happened in Venezuela, right, and then.

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Speaker 3: It was very difficult for people who were.

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Speaker 1: Trying to travel for the you know, the next couple

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Speaker 1: of days out of the Caribbean. And I also was

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Speaker 1: a little concerned, like what's gonna happen here, because everybody

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Speaker 1: does not agree with Donald Trump kidnapping the president, dictator,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call him out of Venezuela. And

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Speaker 1: so I'm a little like, Okay, it's something going to

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Speaker 1: happen here.

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Speaker 2: That is literally, my son, who was trying to call

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Speaker 2: me while I was talking to you, has been calling

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Speaker 2: me about this every day because he lives in the city.

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Speaker 2: He lives in New York City. And if they're you

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Speaker 2: have to remember Venezuela does have close relationships with Iran,

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Speaker 2: and Iran does have close relationships with terrorist groups like Hesbola.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean there's gonna be terrorism in reaction to

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump overthrowing their dictator, but that doesn't mean it's

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Speaker 2: not gonna happen. But we don't know, and if it happens,

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Speaker 2: people tend to go for the Marquis Cities ac DC

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Speaker 2: New York and the Blue Cities that didn't do anything.

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Speaker 2: It's like, this isn't even our fault. And so I

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Speaker 2: think unfortunately, if something like that were to happen, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think we should could be concerned about it. But again,

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Speaker 2: the whole regime is still in place. It's not like

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Speaker 2: it's just Madua and his wife.

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Speaker 3: That got you.

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Speaker 1: One person out, nobody that has anything to do with

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Speaker 1: the drug cartels, Like none of the drug card tell

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Speaker 1: people they're still fine, even though the guys was, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you guys are shipping drugs into Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: that's that's the whole reason we did.

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Speaker 2: This supposedly, and they dropped that real quick. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, if it's about drugs, then why is the

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Speaker 2: former president of Hondura free to go when he was

637
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Speaker 2: a drug dealer got a pardon And like, you know,

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Speaker 2: my Maduro is a lot of bad things. But even

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Speaker 2: the kind of drugs they're saying come out there don't

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Speaker 2: even come from there. It comes from you know, Mexico

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Speaker 2: and other places. Yeah, there's probably drug shipments of cocaine

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Speaker 2: to go through all these Latin American countries, but in

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Speaker 2: some cases Trump is fine with it. They don't care

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Speaker 2: about drugs, and they certainly don't care about his base

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Speaker 2: being strung out. They don't care about that.

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Speaker 3: What do you think is going to happen with midterms?

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Speaker 1: And if you know today we're looking at everything that's happening,

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Speaker 1: the trajectory that we're on, what do you anticipate.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we have free and fair elections, which is

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Speaker 2: definitely not certain. They've done a lot to mess with elections,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know how much confidence I have that

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Speaker 2: the elections will be untainted. But if we had untainted elections,

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Speaker 2: I think Democrats would take over the House for sure.

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Speaker 2: There was a Republican House member that just died out

655
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Speaker 2: of California, so they only have a one seat majority

656
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Speaker 2: in the House. Now, it's very very tight. It's gonna

657
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Speaker 2: be hard for Republicans to hold onto the House. I

658
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Speaker 2: think that's likely Democrats get the House. The Senate is

659
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Speaker 2: a little more up in there.

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Speaker 1: That's why I want to tell everybody y'all got to vote.

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Speaker 1: And I want to say I saw your sit down

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Speaker 1: interview with Mam Donnie. Yeah, and I met Mam Donnie

663
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Speaker 1: super early on when they were so many people that

664
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Speaker 1: were in the race from mayor of New York and

665
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Speaker 1: I remember thinking to myself, I liked him. He came

666
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Speaker 1: to this event that I was hosting at break It

667
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Speaker 1: was about the arts and New York City, and he

668
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Speaker 1: got there a little late because he took the train.

669
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Speaker 1: He was like, sorry, I'm late, my train was delayed.

670
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Speaker 1: And I was like, I didn't really know much about him, right,

671
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Speaker 1: And I was like, this is a long shot for

672
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at everybody, the State Controller, like everybody else

673
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Speaker 1: who's you know, running obviously Eric Adams. And then you know,

674
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Speaker 1: we knew Cuomo hadn't thrown his head in yet, but

675
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Speaker 1: he was going to. And that's why voting matters. Though,

676
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Speaker 1: I do want to say I think that's a prime

677
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Speaker 1: example as somebody who was really an underdog at first.

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Speaker 2: And it also shows you that people who especially like

679
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: young people who are votes, are like, well, they don't

680
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: care about voting. They'll vote if you give them something

681
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: to vote for, right, And I think it really is

682
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: a good lesson for the Democratic Party. No, not everybody's

683
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: going to be a mom donnie. But he won by

684
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Speaker 2: the largest margin in thirty years. He won overwhelmingly, and

685
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Speaker 2: he won in places he was not supposed to win

686
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Speaker 2: on paper because people who don't normally vote came out

687
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: and voted for him. And so I think what Democrats

688
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: need to learn is sometimes y'all are just not offering

689
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: people a reason to come out and vote, and saying

690
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: Trump is bad is not enough. You know, people are

691
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Speaker 2: going to vote against to a certain extent, but people

692
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: also want to vote for something. And what I think

693
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: he did that was brilliant is he said, let me

694
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: give you something to vote for. Your rent is too

695
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: damn high, let me help with that. Your food costs

696
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: are too high, Let me help with.

697
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: That child care, childcare, And they that, yeah, that's already

698
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: in motion, already.

699
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Speaker 2: In motion to give people free childcare and the free

700
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: busses thing. People are like, that's never gonna happen. Until

701
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: it does if you get somebody who understands how to

702
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: use executive power and it's not afraid. What I love

703
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: about my Dannie is he's too young to be jaded

704
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: about politics and think I can only nickel and dime

705
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: these promises. He is too young to not want to

706
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: do everything he said he wants to do, and to

707
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: aggressively push to use as much power as he can

708
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: that's not like normal Democrats. They normally nickel and dime

709
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Speaker 2: their power and they're like ashamed of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think there's always this dynamic where you're like, Okay,

711
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: this person, you know doesn't have enough experience versus this

712
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: person is old. We need to get them out of there, yeah,

713
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, and we need to get rid of that.

714
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: So there's always like this balance of doing with somebody

715
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: who's like super experienced, been doing this for a long time,

716
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: knows everybody, you know. Mama was kind of like running

717
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: on the premise that he could talk to Trump right

718
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: and make things happen. Eric Adams at first too, you know,

719
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: was kind of running on that premise. But and then

720
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: Mom Donnie went and met with Trump. What did you

721
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: think about that? Because I want to know, because people

722
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: were definitely up in arms like what is this about?

723
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: And Trump seemed to take a liking to him.

724
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: It seemed like Trump fell in love with this man.

725
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Speaker 2: And I did ask him like what did you do?

726
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: Like how did you get I think what it is

727
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: is that Trump likes stars, He likes people who he thinks.

728
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: Are snybody was handsome.

729
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And remember when when the Jimmy Carter funeral. He

730
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: was like trying to key key with Obama, like he

731
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: was all in Obama stage. I'm like, I'm nott. You

732
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: hated Obama.

733
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Speaker 3: Like each other.

734
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Speaker 2: He loves celebrities and anyone he thinks is a handsome celebrity,

735
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Speaker 2: he really wants to suck up to them. So I

736
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Speaker 2: think that was part of it. And also I think

737
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Speaker 2: he spoke his language. He's like, look, let's just talk business.

738
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Speaker 2: I'm not here to be your friend. You're not here

739
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Speaker 2: to be my friend. You're still the dictator to me.

740
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Speaker 2: You're still a fastest MA don't care. Let's talk business.

741
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: And Trump. I think respect somebody that's strong, that sticks

742
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: to their principles. And look, if you're the people who

743
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: were saying he shouldn't have gone met with him, yeah

744
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: you should have. You're the mayor of the most important

745
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: city in the country where Donald Trump is from, where

746
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: he's from, and it's the financial capital of the United States.

747
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: You don't have to deal with them. You've got to

748
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: figure out how to deal with them. And I think

749
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: it was smart for him to get in there and

750
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: figure out how we're going to deal with each other. Right,

751
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: I mean, FDR had to deal with Stalin, so right,

752
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: it's the way it is.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, I appreciate you so much. It's always to

754
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: me just amazing that you come and give me your

755
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: time because it's important for my platform for people who

756
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: listen to this show. And I started off talking about

757
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: how we really need to be intentional about what networks

758
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: and what outlets that we're paying attention to. I told

759
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Speaker 1: you I watched the Jury Read show all the time,

760
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: and that is where I'm able to really kind of

761
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Speaker 1: see what's.

762
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Speaker 3: Going on, and you can't not pay attention.

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Speaker 1: I had a conversation with somebody the other day that

764
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Speaker 1: was like, I really don't know anything about politics, but

765
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Speaker 1: there's like, you don't have to be an expert. I'm

766
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: definitely not an expert in anything, but I'm paying attention

767
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Speaker 1: so that I know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I always vote, and I always tell people that you

770
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: need to get out there and vote, and I always

771
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: think about who I think would be a good leader. Yeah.

772
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And yeah, there's a famous saying that I think

773
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: is true that just because you're not interested in politics

774
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: doesn't mean the politics is not interested in you. Absolutely,

775
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: and the stuff they're doing, you think it doesn't affect you.

776
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: Go ahead and deport two three million undocumented people. Watch

777
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 2: the price of everything you eat, every construction project, everything

778
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: go up. Mess with China, keep messing with them. Then

779
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: walk in Walmart. Go ahead and tear of them. Everything

780
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: in Walmart was made in China. So when they mess

781
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: with China, they're messing with your Walmart. They're messing with

782
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: your shopping machine. They're messing right. If you want to

783
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: mess with Japan, come on, I mean, what do we

784
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: make in this country. Your PlayStation is made in Japan.

785
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: Your iPhone is made in Asia. The parts come from Africa.

786
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: And it's easy to say we should just make stuff here,

787
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: but you know how long and hard that's going to be,

788
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: and the quality, but that's about that.

789
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Speaker 2: They like your iPhone can be even jank. They're bad enough.

790
00:35:59,239 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: Wenna have the experts.

791
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: Please would not do that and not for the barbers

792
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: to come at you. But what did you think about

793
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: Nicki Mina?

794
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: Listen speaking of undocumented people, This lady came here and

795
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: by the way, we share a birthday, so it's a

796
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: little weird that we always caught. We did b before.

797
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Speaker 2: So I was a fan of her music. I think

798
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: she's a musical talent. I mean just you know, like

799
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 2: Kanye West, these are talented musicians. Nobody should never listen

800
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: to anything she says other than just her music. This

801
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: lady came here at five years old undocumented. She understands

802
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 2: what it's like to be undocumented, grew up in this city.

803
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: She's deportable because she definitely was undocumented originally. She is

804
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: a Trinidadian. She didn't say anything about the killing of

805
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: those Trinidadian fishermen. I'm quite sure the people in Trinny

806
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 2: noticed that she doesn't seem to care about her people

807
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 2: and the idea of sucking up to Trump. Not long

808
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: after you said you don't want a millenia because you

809
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 2: don't want a weak woman, right, you don't want somebody

810
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: that's just sucking up to the president, and after you

811
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: criticized his deportation policies yourself. But now all of a

812
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: sudden you're kissing his ass.

813
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Speaker 3: What do you think happened?

814
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Speaker 2: I think she has a brother and a husband. You've

815
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 2: got some serious legal issues around pedophilia, particularly her brother

816
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 2: who's serving what twenty five to life or something for

817
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: the you know, violation of a child or of children,

818
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: and I think she's thinking, you know how I can

819
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Speaker 2: get a pardon. I'll go be friends with the Turning

820
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Speaker 2: Points USA. People all kiss Trump's ass and Vance's ass,

821
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: and maybe I'll get pardons and maybe I won't get deported.

822
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I think my cynical self says that she's

823
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: trying to protect herself, her brother, and her husband from

824
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: the administration by kissing their ass, and it's it's embarrassing

825
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: and sad, and as a hip hop fan, I think

826
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Speaker 2: it's the thing that hurts me the most is watching

827
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Speaker 2: hip hop artists that I respect their respect musically, I'll

828
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: line up for Trump because they get nothing from it.

829
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 2: He will never respect you. You will never be one

830
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Speaker 2: of them.

831
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen people get that she's not getting his

832
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: no apparently NA, which I was surprised because I know

833
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: it's all about the money.

834
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Speaker 3: So I don't know what happened there.

835
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Speaker 2: He probably didn't write a big enough checking on he cheat.

836
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: Though they cheating. You gotta give the real money, because

837
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: apparently that's you gotta do. As Carlos Watson, I want

838
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: to know how much money they're all paying, But you.

839
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: Got to Carlos Watson got his part in too Yeah

840
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: from Ozzie Media. You do, well, we gotta have a

841
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: pop culture show one day. We should, girl, don't get

842
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: I know you talk about every you know, the news

843
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: and politics and all of that all the time.

844
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do if you if you haven't watched it,

845
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: watch Stranger Things, and then we should do a Stranger

846
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: Things conversation. I'm obsessed, obsessed.

847
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: Okay, and I saw Prince his music catalog shot up,

848
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: like because it's Stranger Things.

849
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, not only Stranger Things, but the one that

850
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: I really I just got finished watching Welcome to Dairy. Oh,

851
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 2: I was watching that to itsessed, Like Welcome to Day

852
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: is actually.

853
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: You know, my favorite favorite genre of to watch.

854
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: Oh really?

855
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love hard too.

856
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: Oh I love a zombie thing, but no, it's a

857
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: good one. Well, I mean Welcome to Dairy is the

858
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: one I'm actually loved the most because they snucked like

859
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: a very black narrative to something that you wouldn't even

860
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 2: think of. You know, the IT franchise is its own thing.

861
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to spoil it for you, but

862
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: there's a character in Welcome to Dairy that this is

863
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 2: the prequel to the Shining.

864
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Speaker 3: What I see. I haven't finished it.

865
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Speaker 1: Listen it is in the car, and then yeah, okay, good,

866
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm on it. I gotta That means I gotta go

867
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: back because I was actually at home putting together furniture

868
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Speaker 1: while I was watching it, so I was like missing

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Speaker 1: things and having to rewind it.

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Speaker 3: But I'm I'm gonna make sure I go author through.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Dairy. That is actually, to me, the best

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Speaker 2: series that's out right now. It's saying it is so

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Speaker 2: good and it's so nuanced, and it's given you timelines

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Speaker 2: and history and different eras and stuff. But that when

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Speaker 2: that when I finally got that connection to The Shining,

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Speaker 2: one of my favorite films, and I love Stephen King. Baby,

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Speaker 2: it will blow your mind.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm on it. Well, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: joining me. I always appreciate it. I know you're gonna

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Speaker 1: come back because I feel like we're here, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Thank you, sus I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: All right, It's way up