1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug gotleep Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app by searching apps car What about your 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio App? How you doing? 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: Welcome in. I hope you're having a great day. The 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: Doug Gottleib Show with broadcasting from Green By, Wisconsin, Sherman Oaks, California, 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: every day. This is how we do it. Adam Kaplan's 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: gonna join us, co host of Inside the Birds. Uh, 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: we'll get his thoughts on the bizarre play calling from 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles head coach in Frank of the Packers head coach. 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: But really, the Eagles, what were they doing down the 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: stretch when it felt like they had the game won 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: and gave the Packers ample opportunity to come back and 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: tie it or win it. We'll talk to Adam Caplin 18 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: later on this hour. It is a Wednesday, that's a 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: hump day. That's the middle of the day, that's the 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: middle of the week. And you know what, it's actually 21 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: in the middle of our show. We have a podcast 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: which follows the show. It drops as soon as the 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: radio show concludes. So, h two o'clock in the west, 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: five o'clock in the east, you just go to download 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: the Doug Otleam Show podcast and you get that third 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: hours calling the bonus for free. But before we get 27 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: to that, let's get the Midway. He's not getting the 28 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: middle It's time for the. 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: Midway. 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: Okay there, Dan Buyer, Jason Stewart. 31 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: You Jason, thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. Yeah, 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: a couple of options today. As I sent out the 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: group text earlier today, Aaron Glenn picks a fight with 34 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 3: the New York media again. And on the same day 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: that Micah Parsons sent a quote tweet at Colin Cowherd 36 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: with a couple f bombs. Tell me he doesn't know 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: what he's talking about. And I'm thinking, when the athletes 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: and coaches pick fights with the media, when does it 39 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: ever end? Well, examples of fights and maybe examples of 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: people being punished after the fact for their relationships with 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: the media. But then Iowa Sam brought a very interesting 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: topic to the forefront, and it's Rich Rod on a 43 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: radio show saying this about his players. 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 4: I don't want to be the uniform police, like if 45 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: their pants aren't pulled down enough. I don't want these 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: guys like some of you ever see this bothers me, 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 4: they there's not a towel they wear. They were like 48 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: a tail. It's not like you're keeping your hands dry 49 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 4: with something that's like three inches and it's long like 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: it looks like a tail. I'm like, when the hell 51 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: we start putting tails on our guy. It's the same 52 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: thing like you know, watching games and teams that they 53 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: got mouthpieces, but they got glow in a dark mouthpieces, 54 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: but they ain't using them. 55 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 5: It's just decoration, decoration, design one not here. No, we 56 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 5: don't do that. You got a mouthpiece you put in 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 5: your mouth, that's it. You don't put no glow in 58 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 5: the dark. It's the same way with shoes. You ever 59 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 5: watch shoes out? 60 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 4: Basketball is different, but football, you wear the shoes that 61 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 4: we give you. You don't go over to you know, 62 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: get your own fancy shoes and put some sparkles on 63 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 4: it or whatever the hell it is. And you know, 64 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 4: pink shoes and whatever. A shoe that we give Danny 65 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 4: need that gives down, and that's the shoe you wear. 66 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: It's called a uniform. So we all are the same. 67 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: You know, it's all the same. You don't see the 68 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: military when they go out to do battle, one wearing green, 69 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 4: one wearing white. 70 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: You know, they're all uniformed. 71 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 4: All right, that's what we got to be. 72 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: I like it. 73 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 4: I talked to the guy who works in the NFL. 74 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 4: He said, Coach, it's crazy. We got guys, and they'll 75 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: find them. They'll find them thousands of dollars. They'll find 76 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: the coaches, they'll find the equipment managers, they'll find the 77 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: owners of the team. Because they want everybody to look 78 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: uniform as well. So the NFL, you don't mess around 79 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: with that. We let these kids wear all kinds of 80 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: like glow in the dark mouth pieces and some kind 81 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: of crap like that, and it drives me crazy. 82 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Rich, I'm with it. 83 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: I didn't know what the fans like it. 84 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 4: I thought maybe the fans like I can't wait till 85 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: Johnny comes out there with the sparkling blue glowing a 86 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: dark mouth piece. So it makes me my favorite player, Now. 87 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: Are you kidding? 88 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 6: Me. 89 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: It's like they were these like the legans, right, if 90 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: you had a leg injury and you had a niche 91 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: brain or something, and then the trainer gives you a 92 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 4: knee sleeve to keep that knee a little mis understandable. 93 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: But if you're just wearing like one long legan on 94 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: one leg and nothing on the other, you're just trying 95 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 4: to be Angel Reese. That's what I called. Are you 96 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 4: Angel Reese? You're trying to make a fashion statement. She 97 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 4: could get by with it. Yeah, she's in w NBA. 98 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: You're a football player, are no? 99 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: No? 100 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 4: No, Angel Reese is here. 101 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: Since we're the only national radio show that has a 102 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: current head coach as the host and we've all played sports, 103 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 3: I think this is a very relatable topic that rich 104 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 3: Rod mirrors a lot of thoughts of people of a 105 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: certain generation. So maybe this is a better midway topic today. 106 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: What do you guys think? 107 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: I agree with yours, I agree with I like Sammy's topic, Jason, 108 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: I mean I did. 109 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm game of it. I think there's a lot there. 110 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 3: Okay, I think that this is my question for you guys, 111 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 3: before we get into the kind of just the generality 112 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: of this, I want to go micro first before we 113 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: go macro. Why do players put fluorescent mouthpieces and their 114 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: top hole of their helmet. What function does that serve? 115 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Uh? 116 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, because you would think it should be in their mouth, 117 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 7: But they also some don't want to have the strap 118 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 7: on the face mask, so when they cut the strap off, 119 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 7: they need to put the mouthguard somewhere where other guys 120 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 7: whould just have it in their mouth or let it 121 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 7: hang down on the strap. If they don't want to 122 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 7: keep it in their mouth, they put it in the 123 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 7: top hole. 124 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: I think what you're getting at, Dan is the macro, 125 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: which is the promotion of individualism. A whole generation of 126 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: kids that have been told that be yourself on the field, 127 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: be yourself, encouraged to be yourself, be an individual, and 128 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 3: that just doesn't quite jive with the overall nature of 129 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: team sports. Being an individual clashing with the selflessness of 130 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: being on a team. I think that's the core of 131 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: what rich rod Is get into. 132 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 7: No, I think that, yes he is. I don't think 133 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 7: the mouthguard in your helmet is I think some guys 134 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 7: don't mind it hanging from their face mask, and others don't, 135 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 7: so they'll put it on the top of their helmet. 136 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 7: The issue that I have is that I think it's 137 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 7: a huge tell if you are or aren't putting your 138 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 7: mouthguard in on certain plays, like if you're a wide receiver, 139 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 7: you could track how many times you're putting your mouthguard 140 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 7: in if it's a pass play. 141 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: Right. 142 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 7: Oh, so you're. 143 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: Talking about the actual people that are using their mouthguard. 144 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 3: I'm talking about the kids that are not using their 145 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 3: mouthguard at all, that they put it at the very 146 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: top of their helmet, in the hole at the top 147 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: of the helmet. Yeah, just dangling for forty minutes without 148 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: action we use in them. 149 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 150 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 8: I this this rant spoke to me because there is 151 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 8: so much apparel and equipment usage in all sports that 152 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 8: has just become impractical. 153 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 7: Like it is. 154 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 8: It's just like the Asia Wilson Asia Wilson or Angel 155 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 8: Ree's leg sleeve. Like I get that there are, like 156 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 8: rich Rod said, there's certain compression sleeves to help with, 157 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 8: you know, pain mitigation, but there's just other times where 158 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 8: it's just done to just look different, stand out, And 159 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 8: I don't know, I guess I just align more like 160 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 8: the old school coach mentality. I just love this and 161 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 8: I love an old grumpy guy like rich Rod just 162 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 8: going on a rant like this. 163 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 9: It's just it sings. It sings to me. It sings 164 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 9: to me. So I just want to I want to 165 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 9: just point something out here. I'm watching a game on 166 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 9: NFL Network, a replay right now, the Bears Giants game 167 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 9: that they had on Sunday, and there is a player 168 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 9: on the Bears that is wearing a neon yellow mouth guard. 169 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: Yep. 170 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 7: Okay, so as I look, it's rookie Luther Burden, the 171 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 7: third yep. And on this play where his mouthguard is 172 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 7: hanging down knee on yellow, they have a running play 173 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 7: to DeAndre Swift. So I the reason I'm pointing that 174 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 7: out is I get some guys don't want something hanging 175 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 7: onto their face mask. So that's why I'm and Jason 176 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 7: talks about the mouthguard being in the top of their helmet. 177 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 7: I don't think people are putting their mouthguard on the 178 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 7: top of their helmet to say, look at me, I've 179 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 7: got antlers. I'm a mouthguard guy. It's in the top. 180 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 7: I think it's actually detrimental to your team on what 181 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 7: the play is actually going to how it's going to happen. 182 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 7: If we want to talk about Luthor Burden wearing a 183 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 7: bright knee on yellow mouthguard that I can see that 184 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 7: stands out, and if I see that it's hanging down, 185 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 7: I think it's an absolute tell on what the team 186 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 7: may actually do in that situation. 187 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand Dan what you're getting at, and it 188 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: tells I'll just take the coach's perspective. And I was 189 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: a player, right, So it starts with the sneakers in basketball, right, 190 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: And no one wants to wear the team sneakers because 191 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: the team sneakers are generally they're not made for big guys, 192 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: they're not made for guards, They're just made for everybody. Right, 193 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: So they send you some sneakers that are generally sturdy 194 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: and solid, usually mid tops, because they're not high, they 195 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: not low, and just kind of in between. And so 196 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: the first thing is like you look on basketball teams like, well, 197 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: they all have the same sneaker on. Yeah, that feels 198 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: a little high school leg a little cliche. I liked 199 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: how my coach would do it at Oklahomo State. Oh 200 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: he hey, Sutton would do it. You know, if you're 201 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: a starter, you got more leeway. You got to order 202 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: different shoes. His stars, you know, not me, but his 203 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: stars got to get whatever kind of whatever nikes they wanted, 204 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: and he would take care of them and everybody else. 205 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: You gotta wear team shoe. Where I draw the line is, uh, 206 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: you know some of it you just say, you just 207 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: tell my rules are you can't wear that. But where 208 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: iron line is, they're going on a bus right now 209 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: to go to Saint Thomas, and I become that guy 210 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: where hey, we're we're wearing we have really comfortable all 211 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: black sweats. That's what we're wearing on the bus, and 212 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: we're wearing you gotta wear you know you They have 213 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: a couple of bears of Adidas, either running shoes or 214 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: walk around shoes. Gotta be sneakers because if not, they 215 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: end up with crocs, they end up with those like 216 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: Birkenstock slides. They like those. Those are hideous and it 217 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: just doesn't look like a well run organization in during 218 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: the game. Wear whatever sneakers they want, gotta. 219 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 8: Be Adidas and Doug kind of to Dan's point. But 220 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 8: on the flip side, like sometimes in football and basketball 221 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 8: teams will use they'll have a guy wear certain colors 222 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 8: they can see him better, right like so they can 223 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 8: track him better on the court or on the on 224 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 8: the on the ground. 225 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: No, that's not a thing in basketball. No, well going, 226 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: Oh your parents can track you by your friends con 227 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: tract you better. 228 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 8: But no, there's I saw there was something in football 229 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 8: or basketball where maybe a guy wears a certain thing 230 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 8: just to kind of stand out a little babe. 231 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: That is absolutely the case. 232 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 8: Sure, okay, maybe more, maybe more in football, And I 233 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 8: know that the individuals. 234 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: Wait what do you mean, it's absolutely the case. 235 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: I think that you wear outrageous shoes in football so 236 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: that people can identify you. Yeah, yes, you're just watching 237 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: a game in a sports bar and like, oh, Davante 238 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: because he always wears the uh, you know, yellow shoes. 239 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: I think I do think a lot of almost everybody 240 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: does that. 241 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 7: Well, do you think that the teams actually utilize that? 242 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 10: To be your time, guys here he. 243 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: Was talking about the teams utilizing it, Jason. 244 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 8: Not like if you're wearing bright green Neon shoes and 245 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 8: you're a wide receiver, I don't know, like it maybe 246 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 8: it helps you find you can find the guy a 247 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 8: little easier. 248 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 249 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 250 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 8: I thought that was something that they utilized, like a 251 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 8: little subtle little technique. 252 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: No volleyball has the girl with the or they have 253 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: the different jersey on. What's that position called the cetter? 254 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 7: Is that for for volleyball? Is that what you're talking about? 255 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 7: And forget her. 256 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: I'll look it up. Go ahead, Yeah. 257 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 7: I was just gonna say, I think, like a lot 258 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 7: of our listeners, my athletic career ended in high school. 259 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 7: But I do remember playing basketball in high school and 260 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 7: looking for shoes that matched our uniforms. 261 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: Right, yes, hey, well I didn't. 262 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 7: I didn't have to. I just could drive down to 263 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 7: East Bay and get my shoes. Fortunate enough twenty minutes away. 264 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 7: But you'll be hey, you'll be taking the bush through 265 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 7: wasa where East babygan point being the point was to 266 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 7: match my uniform. Now you look in the NBA and 267 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 7: to Jason, to your guys point about the NFL. You know, 268 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 7: Giannis has got his own shoe. So with the dark 269 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 7: green Bucks uniforms, there's Yanni's wearing bright orange shoes. You know, 270 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 7: our neon shoes, And that is so different from what 271 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 7: I remember guys wearing different shoes. But Jordan, like the 272 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 7: original Jordan's were red, black and white, right like the 273 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 7: bulls it worked and matched with the team, and now 274 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 7: it's completely different. 275 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 8: He started it and then. 276 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 7: More, but back then it was it matched with their. 277 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 8: But at least he he did something to stand out 278 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 8: even more that did. Actually the league didn't like right, 279 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 8: like they wanted it to be more uniform. They were like, 280 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 8: you can't have these colors on these shoes. 281 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 7: No, that's not what d I was talking about. Well, 282 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 7: I'm just saying. 283 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 8: I'm just saying though that Michael Jordan started wearing shoes 284 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 8: that were differentiating. 285 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 7: But they were like, what do you. 286 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 11: Mean, No, no, no, what let's move. 287 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: On red and black. You're you're you're complaining a different story. 288 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: That isn't actually what he's talking about. 289 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 8: No, I'm saying, the colors match the team's uniform, but 290 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 8: he decided to go in a different direction with shoes 291 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 8: style anyway. 292 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 7: You know who I love Cooper flag you want. 293 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: Don't know why he's bringing the regular shoes. 294 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 7: No, he's bringing the normal white T shirt underneath the 295 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 7: jersey back. 296 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have one like that too. I tried that once. 297 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 7: That's all I wanted to do in high school. I 298 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 7: tried to wear more clothes. Our shorts were short, our 299 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 7: tank tops were too tight, they didn't fit. Yes, nowadays 300 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 7: these basketball teams look like track teams with some of 301 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 7: their outfits and shorts. I and Cooper Flag's like, you 302 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 7: know what, I'm just gonna wear a full blown, crappy 303 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 7: old white tea underneath my jersey. And that's all I 304 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 7: wanted to do. In high school, we weren't allowed, was 305 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 7: not a part of the team. Everybody had to look 306 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 7: the same except the shoes. But you couldn't wear a 307 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 7: white You couldn't wear remember, Doug, you couldn't wear the 308 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 7: compression shorts, correct the tights, nath No, you couldn't do that. 309 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's obviously a lot that's changed. Uh, Lebron 310 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: used to cover up the tattoos because in high school 311 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: you couldn't wear couldn't have tattoos in Ohio. That's why 312 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: you had the stickers covering the tattoos, or some people 313 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: were shorts covering the tattoos. A lot of things have changed. 314 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: Rules have become more lenient. I'll just tell you what 315 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: I do. Guys. Is I again you no, no, no jewelry. Okay, 316 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: you can wear any undershirt long as they let you wear. 317 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: It's got to match your the main color of the jersey. 318 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get in a dude's hair. I 319 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: just tell them, hey, when we play these games are 320 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: on TV, probably clean up your neck, you know, don't okay, 321 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: slob we when we when we go to the arena, 322 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: come back from the arena, go to the gym, back 323 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: from the gym, we're wearing all the same GB gear 324 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: and we're wearing to dat of sneakers, no crocs, no sandals, 325 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: no nothing else. And other than that, like just you know, 326 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: don't over control them. So there's a magic bix there. 327 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: But again, I played on every different team with every 328 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: different style, some or yet to wear the uniform shoes. 329 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: Some you don't care, but you do. You look, you 330 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: can look like a prison team when everybody's got something 331 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: different on. 332 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: The crazy thing is that, like the rich rod opinion 333 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: will be held against him. Okay, so next year one 334 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: of his player transfers to wherever, and he'll be like, man, 335 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: that guy wouldn't even let us do blame so and so, 336 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: like it's going to be used as a pejorative like 337 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: it's it's the entire paradigm is shifted to where like 338 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: individualism needs to be promoted, and you need to cater 339 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: to the kids or it's going to be used against you. 340 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: Remember when Freddie Freeman left the Braves obviously, and then 341 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: Ronald Acunya came out with those comments like dude, you 342 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: know we can never like screw off and then Walker 343 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: Room or play our music because of Freddie Freeman, and 344 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: it was used as like a like half the league 345 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: was like, man, that sucks. What an old uh, what 346 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: an old curmudgeon Freeman must be? And I was thinking, 347 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: you mean he was holding you to a certain standard 348 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: of professionalism. That's a negative thing. Like again, the paradigm 349 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 3: is shift, has shifted it completely. 350 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 8: And I just add one more thing. Coach Prime, you 351 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 8: know he has got the bravado. He wants his guys 352 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 8: to play with bravada. But then he also has rules 353 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 8: for like he can't wear slides the class, you know, 354 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 8: have the hood down in class. So I like that 355 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 8: that balance he has that He's. 356 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, here's the other problem. Those guys nobody goes 357 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: to class at high major schools. 358 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 7: Well if they do, that is show. 359 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: I listen, I agree with that, but I'm just telling 360 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: you at Colorado, my guess is of his eighty five 361 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: scholarship players whatever, like eighty of them never step foot 362 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: on campus for a class. That is for show. 363 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 8: Sam, Okay, for sure, I'm just saying what he was 364 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 8: saying over the summer. 365 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got a certain rules. 366 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: I do, and I believe in those as well, But 367 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: I also believe you be over the top. The other 368 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: part to it, though, is Jay stwo is you'd be 369 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: amazed at how some players they appreciate discipline. Like, again, 370 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: they don't want it d'arconian, they don't want it over 371 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: the top. But like my argument to him is all like, 372 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: we have brand new, really cool, comfortable with this stuff. 373 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna wear a parkut, why not wear our Parkut? 374 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna wear sweats, Wear our sweats. By the way, 375 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: it's free. You guys are all cheap. Take the free stuff. 376 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: Wear it. It's not that hard. And that is the Midway. 377 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: The Midway snug gotlib show on Fox Sports. So so wait, Sam, 378 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: what were you trying to say about Michael Jordan wearing 379 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: different kind of shoes? 380 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 8: Okay, just to clarify, because you guys all left me 381 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 8: dangling out there, Michael Jordan was the guy in the 382 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 8: eighties who started wearing colors on his shoes period, and 383 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 8: then there are. 384 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: Colors on their shoes, but the Nike made shoes that 385 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: he thought were ugly, right, so he I'm just saying 386 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: that were red and black. 387 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, he was the pioneer's start doing something different. I'm 388 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 8: not talking about he wore like a random color out 389 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 8: on the court. He did wear his team's colors, but 390 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 8: he wore shoes that actually had like colors on him. 391 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 7: Compare well, Magic and Larry had their Converse. 392 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: Converse weapons that were team colors. 393 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 8: Wasn't most of the NBA using Converse at the time, 394 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 8: And then. 395 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: That wasn't what differentiated it was that. 396 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 7: There was Yeah, I was just trying to say the black. 397 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: There was black on the on the soul, even though 398 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: it didn't come off on the court. At the time, 399 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: it was illegal to have a black soul of a sneaker, right. 400 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 7: That's what I was trying to say, is that Mike, Magic. 401 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: And the most Celtics wearing those black and white Converce weapons. 402 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: Magic was wearing the yellow and Laker blue weapons. Like again, 403 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: I am a as much as Dan as a sneaker head, 404 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: as a uniform uniform head. I am a sneakerhead. 405 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 406 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: the nation. 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He had exchange with 413 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: a reporter over the controversial fourth down UH and sixth 414 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: play call in the final of the game on Monday. 415 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: What's interesting is we're making a big deal of the 416 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: fourth and sixth, which I didn't understand why you just 417 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: don't just punt it exactly, but you go to the 418 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: previous possession and with two twenty six to go in 419 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter on second down, they throw it instead 420 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: of running it and getting it to the two minute warning. 421 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: Like I don't say, here's here's Nick Sirianni earlier today. 422 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 2: Can you swear this up? 423 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 7: Though, because there's been a couple of players who have 424 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 7: indicated that that it was a Jail and aj communication 425 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 7: that led to that. 426 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: I knew exactly what the play was that we were. 427 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: Calling and that was run in that moment, so they 428 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 3: didn't chat. 429 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 4: I knew exactly what the play was in that moment, 430 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: what we called and what was and what there is. 431 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: Uh, okay, So what's really work here? 432 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 11: Well, all right, we have to go back to two 433 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 11: years ago. There was a game in Seattle. It was 434 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 11: it was in the midst of turmoil, late in the season. 435 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 11: This is after they had a coordinator change, Sean to Saide. 436 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 11: It was the defense coordinator's reassigned and things are not 437 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 11: good in offense. The offense started collapsing and hurts and 438 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 11: AJ Brown kind of went off script and it became 439 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 11: a big deal in Philly. And by the way, this 440 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 11: does happen occasionally with NFL teams where they'll have a 441 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 11: play call and then there are options that they'll take 442 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 11: without letting sometimes people know about it. It's kind of 443 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 11: seems that's what's happened here. Look, this is an odd game. 444 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 11: And I don't know if you saw the whole game 445 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 11: or you help there were in Okay, Oh, that's right, 446 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 11: I'm sorry. 447 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 10: I saw your pictures I'm sorry. All right, So it 448 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 10: was really odd. 449 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 11: First of all, let me go back you talk about 450 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 11: Nick Sirianni. Okay, you know, I covered thirty two teams 451 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 11: for twenty seven years. I've seen a lot of weird 452 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 11: stuff before. But you have to question the decision making 453 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 11: in terms of going for it or throwing it or 454 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 11: running it. So you brought up that one play late 455 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 11: in the game or two plays late in the game. 456 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 11: I'm gonna go back a little bit earlier. Third and 457 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 11: seven they have a five yard penalty, becomes third and twelve. 458 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 11: They run the football. You have a zero zero game. 459 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 11: What are you doing? 460 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: Like? 461 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 10: Why would you run like? 462 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 11: So he basically played the game close to the vest, 463 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 11: trying not to lose. Now, this guy's a super Bowl 464 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 11: winning head coach, been the super Bowl twice in four years, 465 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 11: top five winning percentage in the last thirty years on 466 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 11: the road. I mean, the guy's a really good head coach, 467 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 11: but really coaching not to throw the football. Not that 468 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 11: your quarterback is making over fifty million throw the football. 469 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 11: That's worth This is about and AJ Brown's problems. Look, 470 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 11: AJ Brown has been very vocal. He just did another 471 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 11: just did another internet show where someone asked him how 472 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 11: he's doing, and he said he's doing fine with the family, 473 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 11: but everything else is not. You know, you could see 474 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 11: the quotes are out there. It's kind of a weird deal. Man, 475 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 11: Philly is. They continue to win their seven too. They're 476 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 11: technically the number one seed in the NFC, but their offense, 477 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 11: but the passing game has been mostly atrocious. 478 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: This season has been has been trusted. This is the 479 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: Doug OUTLETB Sure you listen to Fox Sports rader Adam 480 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: Kaplan's our guess. He's our Fox Sports Radio NFL Incenter. 481 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: First time I've heard people say, you know, Matt Lafleur 482 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: may be hot seat. Any reality to that. 483 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 11: Here's the deal. Matt Lafleour is a phenomenal regular season coach. 484 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 11: He is not coach well in the playoffs. Okay, He's 485 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 11: a very conservative play caller. He believes in balance. Now, 486 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 11: I understand they had a couple of receivers hurt, but 487 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 11: when they've had a full deck, when we're talking about 488 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 11: a full group of receivers, maybe the deepest receiver Cord 489 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 11: in the National Football League. He wants to run the 490 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 11: football first, which if you've got a dynamic running back 491 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 11: like Christian McCaffery, like Kyle Shannan does when everybody's healthy 492 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 11: around him. You could start with a run game and 493 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 11: Jordan Look, Jordan Love did not play well. There's no 494 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 11: question you were at that game. He didn't play well. 495 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 11: There there's no defending it. But he's married to running 496 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 11: the football. And Josh Shaco is not having a great year. 497 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 11: And look, I think I know that local media is 498 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 11: questioning bec because of the trade for Michael Parsons. They 499 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 11: have to go far in the playoffs first, so they 500 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 11: have to make it and lately they have not looked 501 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 11: as good. I think it's a little bit premature, but 502 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 11: there's no situations to watch, Doug. I think that's ones 503 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 11: to watch Atlanta with Raheem Mars that they are so 504 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 11: talented an offense. Somehow they're three and six. That's not 505 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 11: what That's not expected. Tay, you got to keep an 506 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 11: eye on that situation. That's one of those are a 507 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 11: couple of situations. Look, we've alterated two firings. You got 508 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 11: to keep this is the way it works. What expectations 509 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 11: are not met. There are questions within the organization, particularly 510 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 11: football operations, in the ownership and the team president. They 511 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 11: will get involved when you'd rather not. Then, of course, 512 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 11: what's going on with the Steelers. We didn't talk about 513 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 11: them yet. They've just crashed and burned big time at 514 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 11: the Chargers. That was an embarrassing loss. I'm very interesting 515 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 11: to see what happens here if they do not make 516 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 11: the playoffs. And by the way, they've not won a 517 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 11: playoff game since twenty sixteen. 518 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: But what do you think if they it's made the 519 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: playoffs or coaching change. 520 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 11: No, I no, I wouldn't go that far. But offensively 521 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 11: they are atrocious. There's another team that they were great. 522 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 11: They had one great game. They were phenomenal. Listen, Aaron 523 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 11: Rodgers is great against the Colts, terrible against the Chargers. 524 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 11: Very vanilla offense that will run the ball particularly well. 525 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 11: They don't have a number two receiver. That's more on 526 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 11: the front office. They had a very easy schedule. Now 527 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 11: the Ravens all of a sudden at four and five, 528 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 11: they're trying to do what's been done four times in 529 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 11: the last thirty five years. Let's make the playoffs after 530 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 11: going starting one to five. I mean, it could happen. 531 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 11: And now the Ravens all of a sudden are breathing 532 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 11: down the Steelers Necks. 533 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 10: You gotta watch. That's another one to watch late in 534 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 10: the season. 535 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: Here Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Adam 536 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: Kaplan is our guest, Ryan Dable. Why fire him now? 537 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 11: They were going to fire him after the season and 538 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 11: it but it, Doug, you have to list every reason, 539 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 11: first of all, not just the record. 540 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 10: At two and eight. 541 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 11: So many blown leads, embarrassing, this one against the Giants, 542 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 11: this game against the Bears, they had it, they had 543 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 11: him dead to write. You got to close. They've had 544 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 11: a problem closing games out. You could talk about all 545 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 11: their injuries. That's fine. Yes, Jackson Dart had a concussion, 546 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 11: but they had a big lead. You can't choke it 547 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 11: like they did. Their defense is regressed by the way 548 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 11: as well. That's that's really the side of the ball 549 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 11: that they're they're a little bit healthier, but not that 550 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 11: they're a healthy team at all. 551 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 10: But it's his behavior. It's violent and concussion protocol. 552 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 11: It's his outbursts, the way he's overly emotional. I've talked 553 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 11: to people work with him over the years. He's he's 554 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 11: hot and cold emotionally. Guy's a good play caller. But 555 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 11: here's what happened. The reality is at twenty twenty two, 556 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 11: they shocked everyone around the National Football League. They made 557 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 11: the playoffs in this first year. I remember talking to 558 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 11: people with the Giants then and look, they didn't expect 559 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 11: to make the playoffs their first year. In fact, they 560 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 11: won a playoff gay me Mit Minnesota, and then they 561 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 11: completely folded since then, and plus the drafts have been 562 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 11: inconsistent from Joe Shane, who, by the way, will keep 563 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 11: his job at GM. He'll run the coaching search. But 564 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 11: Dave Ball, Look, I hate to see someone deserve to 565 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 11: get fired, but I call that almost a mercy firing. 566 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 11: That's a term that used by clubs when you know 567 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 11: it's obvious you're going to fire the head coach. 568 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 10: Why belabored it? 569 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 11: And by the way, they really like Mike Kafka, who's 570 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 11: doing a good job with Jackson Dart he's the offensive coordinator. 571 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 10: Will still call the players. 572 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: Stuc Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Yet and 573 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: jamis now the starting quarterback. Correct standard reason. We won't 574 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: see Russell Wilson again barring an injury this year. But yeah, 575 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: but well, his career as the starter is over right. 576 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 10: Oh it's been long go for I mean, look, they made. 577 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: It hasn't been though. I thought it was over last 578 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: year that he starts for the Giants. 579 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 11: But here's what happened, jamis they made a decision that 580 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 11: Russell would be the stop gap for about four to 581 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 11: six weeks. It ended even before they thought it would. 582 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 11: Russell that great game against the Cowboys, and then it 583 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 11: just imploded like it did last year with the Steelers 584 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 11: well down the stretch and they moved on and they've 585 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 11: already seen enough for Russell Wilson Jameis Winston. Look, the 586 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 11: thing is, he's younger, he's got a strong arm. He's 587 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 11: sometimes at bizarre quarterback because he's got enormous talent. But 588 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 11: make somebody bad mistakes throw on the football, he will 589 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 11: throw it like he's The thing about Jamis that you 590 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 11: like is he's decisive, where Russell Wilson will run around 591 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 11: and try to make a play. That's not what coaches 592 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 11: really like. The last time Russell Wilson, by the way, 593 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 11: played well was twenty twenty, where he's phenomenal for a 594 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 11: half a season, twenty eight passing touchdowns in eight games 595 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 11: with Seattle's. 596 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the 597 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: voice of Adam Kaplan. Joe Burrow is back practicing. 598 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 7: Yeah. 599 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 10: Is he gonna play, No, he's not supposed to. 600 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 11: He's come back severe turf too. It's gonna they think 601 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 11: it's gonna take a couple of weeks. This is just 602 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 11: the week to get him back into practice. 603 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 10: He's back. 604 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 11: I mean, he's went back well before they first thought. 605 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 11: I mean, I give him credit and there the rehab staff, 606 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 11: but I give Joe Flacco credit me that I could 607 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 11: still play. It's their defense though for the second straight 608 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 11: years not competitive. It's for all the draft picks they spent, 609 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 11: they still cannot play competitive football. It's really embarrassing that 610 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 11: if the Steelers can't win this game. I mean, this 611 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 11: would be the ald em embarrassment. If you can't be 612 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 11: the bendlist at your own plays. 613 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question. Cap, You're the best man. 614 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us, guest. 615 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 616 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 617 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 618 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio poo do do 619 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: be sure check out our brandy YouTube channel for the show. 620 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: Just search Doug Gottlieb Show again, that's Doug Gotlieb Show. 621 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: Be sure to hit the subscribe button. Don't just stop there, 622 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: hit the thumbs up icon. Comment to way let me 623 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: know if you agree or disagree with my taxs you 624 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: hate them. Check out the brand new channel on YouTube 625 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: again this Doug Gottlieb Show, and subscribe. Let's get to 626 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: Dan Bayer with the press. 627 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 7: The press, Doug, It's the news of the day from 628 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 7: the Big Apple. Jackson Dart has that concussion that he 629 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 7: suffered against the Chicago Bears this past weekend, so he's 630 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 7: going to miss their game against the Packers on Sunday. 631 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 7: That opens the door for Jamis Winston to move up 632 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 7: the depth chart. He will now start against green Bay. 633 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 7: That means Russell Wilson has been demoted and while he 634 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 7: can back up Winston on Sunday, he's now third on 635 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 7: the depth chart. This was Wilson in the Giants locker 636 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 7: room earlier today after the news became public. 637 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 6: I say I want to play beats, you know, And 638 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 6: Jamis has worked his butt off, you know, to give 639 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 6: him the great opportunities of guys played in this league 640 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 6: for a long time and he's one of my closest friends. 641 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: I know he'll do a great job. 642 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 6: I'm to help him prepare the best way possible. I'll 643 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 6: be ready to go. Felt ready to go last game. 644 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 6: You know, obviously I've got a solid down with one. 645 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 6: You know in cher Ard line, we didn't we didn't 646 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 6: get it unfortunately, and go forward, but you know, it's 647 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 6: part of the game. And uh, you know, we thought 648 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 6: we were gonna win the game there and fill go 649 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 6: and all that, but it didn't work out. So I 650 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 6: know with Jamis, though he works his butt off, we 651 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 6: I g I said, we have a great dialogue and 652 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 6: he's a great teammate. 653 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: There there's some backhanded compliments in there. Did you hear him? 654 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, Hey, hey, hey, we thought we're 655 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: gonna win the game. We didn't get it. We didn't 656 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: go for it. Get it. Yeah, we didn't go for it. 657 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: You'll go there. I thought we're gonna win the game, 658 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: and hey, James does he's one of my best Do 659 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: you think that Jamis Winston thinks the best friends? 660 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 7: No, No, it was so on in the preseason that Jackson, Dart, 661 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 7: Tommy DeVito and Jamis seemed to have this great relationship 662 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 7: of eating w's and Russell Wilson was nowhere to be 663 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 7: found yet today one of his one of his better friends. 664 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: No, he's one of my best friends. We played the 665 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: first part first, just to make sure we teach sure. 666 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 7: Because there's there's actually more from Russ that we're putting 667 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 7: into the system as we speak, and there's there's more 668 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 7: to it. But here's here's Russ again. 669 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 10: I want to play bets on. 670 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 6: James has worked his butt off, you know, to get 671 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 6: him the great opportunities of guy's played in this league 672 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 6: for a long time, and he's one of my closest. 673 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: Friends, closes. 674 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 7: Close. 675 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: Have you ever been to his house? What is his 676 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: wife's name? What are his parents' names? Is he is 677 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: he on your What are those the pin pin numbers 678 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: you have? You have pin numbers on the top of your phone? Yeah, Dan, Yeah. 679 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 10: Yeah numbers? 680 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 8: Ten text messages like Apple language? 681 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: Is that Apple language? 682 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 683 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: Pen numbers? 684 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: Yes. 685 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 7: The next question means like you. 686 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 8: Sit at the top of a heap all the time 687 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 8: because you're important, you're a friend you're a best friend. 688 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: I would pin yours Jay Stu, but it always pops 689 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: up green and it ruins all of group messages. 690 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, do you think, uh, do 691 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: you think Russell Wilson's ego would allow him to say 692 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 3: the following tomorrow at a press conference. I've given everything 693 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: i can to this game. At some point, I've realized 694 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 3: that the game has passed me up. I'm gonna move 695 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: on to the next chapter of my life. This will 696 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 3: be the last you will see of me in a 697 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: football uniform. 698 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: No, No, I think he's a guy who won't sign 699 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: with anybody this offseason, and then he'll probably do some 700 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: TV and then at the end of next season, he'll 701 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: retire a Seahawk and he'd be like always a seahawk. 702 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 7: That probably fits that tracks as Doug likes to say, 703 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 7: how about this? 704 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, give me give me yours, Dan, I'm gonna 705 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: write these down on my board here, So go ahead, 706 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: what's your best guess what happens? 707 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 7: I don't know. I kind of want to move on 708 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 7: from that because I have to play more of Russell Wilson. Oh, 709 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 7: because he talks for like three minutes and I couldn't 710 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 7: tell if they were the same bites or the different 711 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 7: bites in the locker room, talking about his emotion today. 712 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: I love it here. 713 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 6: I love my teammates, you know. 714 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: I want to see us turning around. 715 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 6: You know, I don't know if God's got a great 716 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 6: plan for me. I don't know what it is today. 717 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 6: The second is a stand here. I just want to 718 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 6: wake up and have a great practice today. That's why 719 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 6: you don't want to have a great practice today. Zoned 720 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 6: in on that, And you know I want to I 721 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 6: want to see it through. I haven't asked for a 722 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 6: release or anything like that. I want to be here, 723 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 6: you know. And but you know, I think for me, 724 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 6: I just want to get better every day. I still 725 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 6: want to keep playing football. I love it obviously, and 726 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 6: I feel like I still got it. 727 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 7: So feels like he still got it. 728 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: I still got it, Yes, still got it. By the way, 729 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: saying saying I haven't asked for my release feels like 730 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: he's going to get released. 731 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 7: I thought he was trying to problem himself up. Like, look, guys, 732 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 7: I haven't asked for it. I've asked to be traded, 733 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 7: but the trade deadline has passed. But I haven't asked 734 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 7: for my release. I thought he was. 735 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 8: Trying to transport through the matrix at some point during 736 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 8: that clip. So I don't know what's going on. 737 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 7: I made a little something technically going on here. There 738 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 7: were there were about three or four cut He talked 739 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 7: about Brian Dables firing called dabes know. I appreciate dabes 740 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 7: DA did all of the all of the things that 741 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 7: you would you would know. It's just it's all coach 742 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 7: Russell Wilson speak. Uh. 743 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 3: Anyway, I've never asked for my release. Is on the 744 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 3: list of things to Shaun Watson has never said. 745 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 7: Moving on, the former NFL receiver Antonio Brown was released 746 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 7: on twenty five thousand dollars bond and placed under house 747 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 7: arrest as he is facing second degree attempted murder charges 748 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 7: in Florida. 749 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: Has anybody looked at the like, did he do this? 750 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: They got him? Yeah? 751 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,479 Speaker 7: I mean it's he fired. I think he fired the gun. 752 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 7: I think he allegedly did. Allegedly, yes, because I think 753 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 7: that he was also like explaining like the situation where 754 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 7: he was like that led him to that moment. 755 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 8: I believe I read that a bullet might have grazed 756 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 8: his neck, the man who was the victim in this 757 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 8: and that, and then. 758 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 7: Antonio brown Is saying that he was being robbed. So 759 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 7: Lakers forward Lebron James took part in five on five 760 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 7: practice with the South Bay Lakers of the G League. 761 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: Dramatic recovery, Luca playing good, gramatic recovery. Now does he 762 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: end the season with the Lakers? 763 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 7: I don't. I don't think so. 764 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you root for it. 765 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 3: I think Lebron. I think Lebron does finish the season 766 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 3: as a Laker. Yeah, yeah, I think it's all tied 767 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 3: to Bronny. He won't play this entire season with Browny, but. 768 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna play Bronny and he gets traded, maybe he can. 769 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 770 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 3: Oh well, that'll be the caveat though. 771 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 7: What about what about the conversations with Bryce James maybe 772 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 7: red shirting for Arizona. Can you even talk about that 773 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 7: as a. 774 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: Coach, Guys, I have about what Bryce James redshirting? 775 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, Tommy Lloyd having some conversations saying that Bryce James 776 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 7: could red shirt at Arizona this year. 777 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: I won't comment specifically on Bryce James because that would 778 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: be unfair. I will tell you that lots of freshmen 779 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: are got a red shirt this year, really really good ones, 780 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: really good ones. We'll red shirt because it's hard. 781 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,479 Speaker 7: And Bradley Beal done for the year with a fractured hip. 782 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 7: That's the press may get out there and pressed. 783 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 2: That was the press. 784 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: God, the Clippers just they can't get out of their 785 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: own way, even when you get brad Beal at a 786 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 1: fractioned some but you get him and now he fractures 787 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: his hip and he's out for the year. Check out 788 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: the podcasts available now. Just type in Doug Gottlieb Show. 789 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: Where you get your podcast. This is Doug Gotlieb Show. 790 00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: You're on Fox Sports Radio.