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Speaker 2: Welcome in Watch Driving in the Great Episode two seventy.
Speaker 2: Apologies for the late start today, so we'll get right
Speaker 2: to it. Here's what missed the cut. Two rookie quarterbacks
Speaker 2: getting to start Drake May that was inevitable, it was
Speaker 2: gonna happen eventually, and Spencer Ratler stepping in for Derek
Speaker 2: Carr after he suffered it suffered an oblique injury at
Speaker 2: the hands of the Chiefs Defense on Monday Night. Raf
Speaker 2: A Nadol, my favorite tennis player of all time, set
Speaker 2: to retire in November, and I hadn't seen this news Demanse,
Speaker 2: but Lebron is set to co chair the met Gala,
Speaker 2: which is sneaky massive news in the right household because
Speaker 2: Met Gala tables, Like you get a table at the
Speaker 2: met Gala, it's like hundreds of thousands of dollars just
Speaker 2: a ticket if you can. They're not really for sale,
Speaker 2: but like maybe you can get a single ticket because
Speaker 2: it's charity donation. It's like forty to fifty grand. And
Speaker 2: your mom has always wanted to go. It's the highest
Speaker 2: fashioned night of the year and a Winter of Vogue
Speaker 2: gets her event and every year she's like, do you
Speaker 2: think we can get ticket? And every year I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: we can't. But if Lebron's co chairing it, I might.
Speaker 2: I might know some people that know some people, and
Speaker 2: so I saw that just a moment ago, and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 3: That could be let's let's sponsoring it basically like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if sponsor would be the sponsors
Speaker 2: probably the right word, but maybe the wrong definition. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like the chair is the one of the people in
Speaker 2: charge of the event that year, so you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So he's one of the people in charge
Speaker 2: of the next met Gala. I hadn't seen that news. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I I might be able to. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's that's legitimately exciting news. All right, we're gonna
Speaker 2: do a little Royals Yankees here for ninety seconds. It's
Speaker 2: why I'm wearing the Royal jersey. Then we'll get the football,
Speaker 2: So de Monse, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the Yankees went up to one against your
Speaker 3: Royals last night. Unfortunately, is the series over? And secondly,
Speaker 3: what did you think of Mahomes talking stuff in the
Speaker 3: box up there?
Speaker 2: All right? The series isn't over. Listen, the Yankees are
Speaker 2: supposed to win this series. I believe the Royals were
Speaker 2: going to win this series because I thought they were
Speaker 2: gonna win games two and three. I thought Reagan's and
Speaker 2: Lugo they were gonna win those two matchups, and because
Speaker 2: of that, the Royals would be fine. However, they lost
Speaker 2: Game three and now they're up against it, and so
Speaker 2: it looks like I was paused for a moment. De Monse,
Speaker 2: I think I'm back now. Sorry for the YouTube stream folks.
Speaker 2: So now they're up against it now, Garrett Cole against
Speaker 2: Michael Waka. That's not great. And if the Yankees win,
Speaker 2: I hope the Yankees go on to the World Series.
Speaker 2: Nothing against the Guardians or the Tigers, but it's good
Speaker 2: for baseball. And these playoffs have been unbelievable, and the
Speaker 2: Dodgers staving off elimination last night. Dodgers Padres has been great.
Speaker 2: And then the Mets, this unbelievable Mets run. If we
Speaker 2: could get well, we're gonna get Mets. Dodgers or Mets Padres.
Speaker 2: Either of those series is compelling, and then we'll see
Speaker 2: who wins. Guardians, Tigers and Yankees Royals. But the Royals
Speaker 2: are right now in a rough spot. But as evidenced
Speaker 2: by me wearing the jersey, I think they can they
Speaker 2: play Listen. They got call out of the game in
Speaker 2: Game one, they scored enough runs to win that game.
Speaker 2: They need Michael Waka to be better than he was
Speaker 2: in Game one. They need their bats to finally come alive.
Speaker 2: There are two things, though, I want to say about
Speaker 2: this series. I understand everyone is killing my guy, Bob Costas,
Speaker 2: who I've known since I was ten years old, who
Speaker 2: was so kind to me when I was a little
Speaker 2: boy and throughout my kind teenage years. So I'm not
Speaker 2: going to uh jump on the eye the costas hate train,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do it. With that said, the TVs
Speaker 2: broadcast has to be better, just has to be better.
Speaker 2: The first run of the game was scored yesterday, and
Speaker 2: it was like they were pressing random buttons on which
Speaker 2: camera to take. It made you we missed the run
Speaker 2: crossing the plate, we missed the throw at second, we
Speaker 2: missed all of it. And in the third inning they
Speaker 2: spent an entire half inning interviewing George Brett from the stands.
Speaker 2: I'm from Kansas City, George Brett pri Mahomes was the
Speaker 2: greatest athlete in the history of my hometown, and I
Speaker 2: didn't want a ten minute George Brett interview during a
Speaker 2: playoff baseball. So that's just gotta be better. The kind
Speaker 2: of viral moment of the night, and it actually feeds
Speaker 2: very well to Mond's in two Hour Jets topic. It
Speaker 2: was Mahomes in the in the suite after the Royals scored,
Speaker 2: getting in a Yankee fan's face who was clearly one
Speaker 2: of his buddies. There's no reason for most people to
Speaker 2: know who that guy is, but that guy's Garrig Dieter,
Speaker 2: who is probably Mahomes's best friend. Certainly one of his
Speaker 2: best friends, who was a practice squad bottom of the
Speaker 2: roster receiver for the Chiefs when Mahomes was getting started.
Speaker 2: And what I find interesting is this, that is Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes the best player, most should be, most powerful player
Speaker 2: in the entire sport. The Chiefs, obviously the last couple
Speaker 2: of years, have had massive turnover at the receiver position,
Speaker 2: bringing Juju back, elevating potentially Justin Ross, bringing mccol hardman,
Speaker 2: and guess what, Garrick Deeter, God love him not on
Speaker 2: the roster. You know why, because even though he's Mahomes'
Speaker 2: best buddy and the team needs bodies and it's a
Speaker 2: position of weakness, Mahomes has not been like, hey, guys, listen,
Speaker 2: just put him back on the team cuz he's not
Speaker 2: meddling in the affairs of the front office because he
Speaker 2: understands my job is to play quarterback, not to get
Speaker 2: my pals gigs. With that said, let's go to the
Speaker 2: New York Jets, a saga that continues, and who last
Speaker 2: year when Aaron Rodgers got their Randall Cobb got a
Speaker 2: job out of it, Tim Boyle got a job out
Speaker 2: of it, and Alan Lazard got forty million dollars out
Speaker 2: of it, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, So a few days ago Robert Salah obviously
Speaker 3: got fired, and you question if Aaron Rodgers would do
Speaker 3: the hit with mgafee or not yesterday, and he ended
Speaker 3: up doing it. And he went on there and said,
Speaker 3: it's interesting the amount of power that people think that
Speaker 3: I have, which I don't. You've called him the most
Speaker 3: disingenuous athlete of your lifetime. How much power do you
Speaker 3: think Rogers actually has within the organization?
Speaker 2: Well, I think he obviously is the most powerful player
Speaker 2: in the entire sport right now. It's undeniable. And listen,
Speaker 2: I give Rogers credit. And he tricked like he he
Speaker 2: halfway tricked Kevin Wilds. Rogers is incredibly talented at being
Speaker 2: a total, complete bullshit artist but saying it in a
Speaker 2: tone of voice and a level of sincerity that makes
Speaker 2: you want to believe him. But his track record and
Speaker 2: the circumstantial evidence make it basically impossible for you to
Speaker 2: believe him in those circumstances. And so what I see
Speaker 2: from Aaron Rodgers in this And by the way, there
Speaker 2: is break news now today about Jeff Olbrick came out
Speaker 2: today and said not Hackett has been basically replaced. They're
Speaker 2: letting him keep his title as offensive coordinator, but they
Speaker 2: said Todd Downing was going to take over play calling
Speaker 2: and game planning, which is the job of the offensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: and so that is I think they're not. I think
Speaker 2: I know because I saw it. Some Jets apologists are like, well,
Speaker 2: this should put to bed the notion that Sala was
Speaker 2: fired because Rogers wanted to protect protect his guy, not Hackett.
Speaker 2: Doesn't put to bed that notion at all. For the record, Like,
Speaker 2: and I give Jeff Olbrick a lot of credit because
Speaker 2: olbric obviously is a solid guy. And if they if
Speaker 2: it's almost like your last order as a king, like
Speaker 2: it should be honored by whoever takes over after you,
Speaker 2: unless he thinks it's totally out of line. We know
Speaker 2: that Robert Sala thought what was best for the New
Speaker 2: York Jets was Todd Downing take over play calling and
Speaker 2: game planning. That was his plan. He then gets whacked
Speaker 2: by Woody and then his deputy, he gets elevated, says no,
Speaker 2: that's still the plan. But I just I we have
Speaker 2: spent and we talked Rogers and Sala's firing on Tuesday
Speaker 2: because the news broke right before the show. Right, that
Speaker 2: was Tuesday. We did it on the pod, didn't we. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: it was Tuesday, And yeah because because Rogers pushed back
Speaker 2: his McAfee appearance from Tuesday to Wednesday, and that's where
Speaker 2: we saw it. So we don't have to spend a
Speaker 2: ton of time on that today. Uh. But it is
Speaker 2: truly unbelievable in the literal sense, meaning it cannot be
Speaker 2: believed that Woody Johnson called Aaron Rodgers Monday night and
Speaker 2: that phone call neither had any impact on his decision
Speaker 2: to fire Robert Salah, nor did the fact that Woody
Speaker 2: was leaning that way or was going to do that
Speaker 2: ever come up. It's just not believable. And I would
Speaker 2: also say this if that here's the other reason, and
Speaker 2: this is where it's not that hard to see through
Speaker 2: the bullshit on this, but it just take an extra
Speaker 2: moment to ponder it. If Aaron's story is a truthful one,
Speaker 2: he actually should be furious if Woody Johnson, who Aaron's
Speaker 2: own telling, only calls him a few times because McAfee
Speaker 2: to his credit, and i'll give McAfee credit. McAfee asked
Speaker 2: a couple of questions that I wanted the answer to,
Speaker 2: and one of them was like, do you talk to
Speaker 2: Woody after every game? Do you talk to Woody a lot?
Speaker 2: That is an important note here, And the answer was no, Well,
Speaker 2: you know, he calls me occasionally. And he mentioned he
Speaker 2: called me after I tore my achilles. Well, I would
Speaker 2: think so he called me when I was rehabbing, and
Speaker 2: then he calls me last night or Monday night, I
Speaker 2: should say if I'm Aaron Rodgers and the head of
Speaker 2: my company calls me, which is a rare occurrence, and
Speaker 2: then and gives me no indication and no heads up
Speaker 2: that he is making a drastic, almost unprecedented move. We've
Speaker 2: ever seen a head coach fired at two and three,
Speaker 2: five games into a year. It doesn't happen. Guys who
Speaker 2: get fired this early into a year they're zero to
Speaker 2: five or one and four. So the idea that what
Speaker 2: the story Aaron is telling is one that if it
Speaker 2: were true, he should be furious with Woody Johnson, even
Speaker 2: if he wanted Salah out, because it's like, you gotta
Speaker 2: give me a heads up. And so some people feel
Speaker 2: obligated to give people the benefit of the doubt. And
Speaker 2: not say this person is lying. I feel obligated to
Speaker 2: give people the benefit of the doubt that have earned
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt when it comes to rogers
Speaker 2: playing games with words and phrases and trying to say
Speaker 2: things that aren't outright lies but wildly misleading. He has
Speaker 2: a track record of doing exactly that, and so no,
Speaker 2: I just think he's full of it. And also on
Speaker 2: the Jets side of things, I think that this will
Speaker 2: not Nothing the Jets have done gives me any reason
Speaker 2: to believe they are going to be any better. Jeff
Speaker 2: Olbrick is a Robert Salaz guy. And again for the
Speaker 2: folks on YouTube, I apologize the videos freezing occasionally, but
Speaker 2: the audio is sticking with us. Now we're back on
Speaker 2: the video side. So I don't think that all of
Speaker 2: a sudden Jeff Oulbrick is going to fix things that
Speaker 2: were wrong with the team. I mean, maybe he will,
Speaker 2: but he's a first time ever head coach, and the
Speaker 2: defense had been quite good, and Todd Downing does not
Speaker 2: have the track record of offensive genius. The last team
Speaker 2: he coordinated was the Titans in twenty one and twenty two.
Speaker 2: That's his only history as an offensive coordinator. And the
Speaker 2: biggest problem with the Jets offense is they still have
Speaker 2: a substandard offensive line and they have an immobile quarterback
Speaker 2: that will not acquiesce to modern NFL trends of play
Speaker 2: action movement before the snap motion. And he still thinks
Speaker 2: he can just rely on his raw natural talent, which
Speaker 2: he cannot do. And so no, I don't think this
Speaker 2: fixes the Jets. I don't think the Jets are fine,
Speaker 2: and I do not believe Aaron Rodgers was blindsided by
Speaker 2: the firing of Robert salad If.
Speaker 3: He also asked him straight up, and he danced around
Speaker 3: that question, Yes, were you surprised, I mean by the
Speaker 3: firing of solid Like were you in the locker room surprised?
Speaker 3: And he never answered the question straight up, like he
Speaker 3: went into a theme. And then McAfee asked again at
Speaker 3: the end, were you surprised, and he was like, well,
Speaker 3: I was in the training room getting my leg.
Speaker 2: Takes training room correct, Yeah, and yeah he talked about
Speaker 2: he was like it was like John Wick at the
Speaker 2: when he got the you know, ex communicado. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean again, I don't think Rogers likes outright line. So
Speaker 2: you know, he didn't say just think about it, and
Speaker 2: I can just go through a few that come off
Speaker 2: the top of my head. I'm immunized. He didn't say
Speaker 2: I'm vaxed. He said I'm immunized, right, which is that
Speaker 2: he said, I'm I went into that dark room ninety
Speaker 2: percent retired as opposed to saying like nobody knows what's
Speaker 2: in your head. You could just say when I went
Speaker 2: in the dark room, I was certain I was retiring.
Speaker 2: But no, he was like, no, ninety percent or retired. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, the I never spoke. I forget the exact
Speaker 2: thing he said about the GM guten Kuns, but he
Speaker 2: was like, you know, he never contacted me and guden
Speaker 2: Kuns like I called him a bunch of times. He's like, oh,
Speaker 2: cell service. I meant FaceTime me. You never FaceTime. So
Speaker 2: there's a lot you know what I mean. The there's
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, what was up with you
Speaker 2: in Salah on the sideline when you shoved him? And
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, I was just saying two scores, which
Speaker 2: I do believe he was saying too.
Speaker 3: By the way, you know, put your head coach after
Speaker 3: a score.
Speaker 2: That's oh yeah, I mean, it's it's unbelievable and and
Speaker 2: so the it's just a lot of like playing with
Speaker 2: word phrases. Yeah, it's either lying by omission or lying
Speaker 2: by implication, but not an outright what you know what
Speaker 2: I mean one hundred percent? I you know I this
Speaker 2: store is called printage when it's called trentage, like, no,
Speaker 2: that's a lie is a and so like that was
Speaker 2: not a great example, by the way, but I don't
Speaker 2: know why I used that. But nothing quite as black
Speaker 2: and white, all right.
Speaker 3: Next, Yeah, so the dynamic duo or not duo, Lamar
Speaker 3: Jackson and Jade and Daniels are facing up against each
Speaker 3: other and a lot of people have been comparing them.
Speaker 3: But Daniels says he doesn't like the comps. We'll get
Speaker 3: out the colte board. He says, we're two different players.
Speaker 3: I want to be known as Jaden and Daniels and
Speaker 3: not the next such and such. All right, but for
Speaker 3: podcasting sakes, we're going to compare them just one last time.
Speaker 3: Do you see any similarities or differences between these two quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: Oh, listen, I think Lamar's a hell of a lot sturdier.
Speaker 2: I think Jaden oddly. So it's weird because Lamar was
Speaker 2: his rookie year or his first year as a starter,
Speaker 2: I should say not his rookie year. So his second
Speaker 2: year he had amazing passing numbers. But Jaden seems to
Speaker 2: be a more fluid natural passer early in his career.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, and we got to do like
Speaker 2: a better job of this in the media. Guys don't
Speaker 2: want to be comped to guys they're competing with. I
Speaker 2: think they want you know, you'd want to be comped
Speaker 2: to this, wouldn't you know, to a retired quarterback or
Speaker 2: a quarterback very close to retirement. So Caleb, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Caleb would is like everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you like Mahomes. He's like, no, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Stafford,
Speaker 2: because yes, he might be competing with those guys, but
Speaker 2: those guys are, you know, a full generation removed. And
Speaker 2: so I wonder how Jaden would feel if people, and
Speaker 2: maybe people have done this and I haven't seen it,
Speaker 2: if they compared him to Mike Vick. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean. My guess is he'd like he'd even though
Speaker 2: he's a far better passer than Mike was, Uh, he'd probably.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that to some degree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's just it's a weird spot where
Speaker 2: the it's like, no, I'm trying to be better in
Speaker 2: this guy. I'm trying to beat this guy. Here's what
Speaker 2: I will say for this weekend. Both of these quarterbacks
Speaker 2: should have monster games. Both of these pass defenses stink.
Speaker 2: Like Now, Baltimore could ruin this by just going, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, ground and pound, but I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: they do that at times and it's effective, but sometimes
Speaker 2: they like to just let Lamargo cook. I'm yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean the tell the commanders are scoring, they're gonna
Speaker 3: have to fight back.
Speaker 2: I think it will be issued out right, and so
Speaker 2: the listen. I don't bet totals just because I don't
Speaker 2: enjoy the I don't enjoy rooting for totals and watching
Speaker 2: it that way. And I don't bet, you know, as
Speaker 2: like a real income source. I bet to enhance my
Speaker 2: enjoyment of watching football, and because I think I can
Speaker 2: be sharp at it. By the way, gambling show coming
Speaker 2: up in a few minutes, and by the when we
Speaker 2: do that, hopefully we get the video stuff squared. But
Speaker 2: the total for this game is fifty one and a half.
Speaker 2: This is an over. I do like and I know
Speaker 2: that that's kind of probably a square over and again
Speaker 2: that's not an official pick, but this feels like a
Speaker 2: game where one team's in the thirties and the other
Speaker 2: teams in the twenties. And that's a recipe for over
Speaker 2: fifty one and a half. All right, next, all.
Speaker 3: Right, So it's hard to jump ship when you know
Speaker 3: there's these teams are good, but San Francisco is a
Speaker 3: risk of falling two and four tonite versus the NFC
Speaker 3: West leading Seahawks, and Cincinnati's already one and four, and
Speaker 3: Burrow came out and said that this isn't a championship team.
Speaker 3: Is there anything short of mathematical elimination or injury that
Speaker 3: would make you write these teams off?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so listen, we're gonna get to San Francisco
Speaker 2: Seattle in the pick segment in a moment, so I'll
Speaker 2: save that. If Cincinnati loses this weekend, I'm writing them off.
Speaker 2: If Cincinnati loses to the New York Giants after losing
Speaker 2: that level of heartbreaker, I'm writing them off. But with
Speaker 2: Burrow playing as well as he is, and with the
Speaker 2: schedule softening for Cincinnati and they haven't had that tough
Speaker 2: of a schedule as is, but they've got some super
Speaker 2: winnable games. I just think that there's a very real
Speaker 2: chance they're four and four heading into the rematch with Baltimore.
Speaker 2: So if they lose to the Giants, they're cooked. But
Speaker 2: for the Bengals, the reason I won't say they're totally
Speaker 2: cooked is we just saw him play Baltimore to the
Speaker 2: final moment. They have between now and Baltimore. The Giants,
Speaker 2: the Browns and philip I'm sorry, the Giants, the Browns,
Speaker 2: Philadelphia and the Raiders. So Browns and Raiders are two
Speaker 2: of the worst teams in football. The Giants, I think
Speaker 2: they're better than and you guys know I'm not high
Speaker 2: on Philadelphia. So I'm not gonna say a team that's
Speaker 2: one and four is gonna go four and oh but
Speaker 2: can they go three and one and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden befour and five headed into a rematch with Baltimore. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: and so I'm not writing off Cincinnati yet, but they
Speaker 2: have to win this weekend for me to keep them alive.
Speaker 2: We'll talk Niner Seahawks next. Take next, take a quick break,
Speaker 2: try to fix the video, and do our five Week
Speaker 2: six gambling show, which is right hot. Demanse hasn't lost
Speaker 2: a teaser since I've been forty years old, and I
Speaker 2: just gave out a four to one weekend. We'll do
Speaker 2: it all next. What's right? Hey, guys, welcome back in
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Speaker 2: a while since we had one of these where I
Speaker 2: have a great week end where you win the teaser,
Speaker 2: where it's there's very very little. I'm looking at it like,
Speaker 2: oh escaped or got lucky. We were on the right
Speaker 2: side of these games. So if my four and one
Speaker 2: last week season record now for me a profitable thirteen
Speaker 2: eleven and one, and here are the picks. Last week,
Speaker 2: Minnesota minus two and a half in London against the Jets,
Speaker 2: handicapped that perfectly. They were up seventeen to nothing, a
Speaker 2: little nervous at the end when the Jets could steal it,
Speaker 2: but never it out. Arizona plus seven and a half
Speaker 2: at San Francisco. They had a field goal block returned
Speaker 2: for a touchdown, threw another pick, still one outright, Miami
Speaker 2: plus one at New England. I understand that. You know
Speaker 2: at the end, all they almost got that touchdown, did
Speaker 2: New England? Yes, But even if they got that touchdown,
Speaker 2: a push was alive because it was fifteen to ten
Speaker 2: a touchdown, there were to put New England up sixteen fifteen.
Speaker 2: That's a must go for two spot, but they didn't
Speaker 2: get the touchdown. Kent City minus five and a half
Speaker 2: against New Orleans, the Chiefs throw a pick at the
Speaker 2: one yard line. Still cover with these and then the
Speaker 2: bad one Seattle minus six and a half against the Giants.
Speaker 2: Seattle lost outright. This has been the year of the
Speaker 2: big dog covering the dogs of six and a half
Speaker 2: or more insane this year against spread with a bunch
Speaker 2: of outright wins. So that was dumb of me to
Speaker 2: go with them. But it was a four and one weekend.
Speaker 2: Were profitable on the year. And what you're gonna see
Speaker 2: this week, demanse I am going all underdogs, all five picks,
Speaker 2: five underdogs. We are starting with tonight. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: First off, you've got Seattle plus three and a half
Speaker 3: versus San Francisco.
Speaker 2: All right, what does anything I'm putting you on the
Speaker 2: spot here, and so I apologize, uh so because you
Speaker 2: might not remember. But if I were to say to you,
Speaker 2: what was the single worst game of brock Perty's career,
Speaker 2: the hint I would give you is it ended his
Speaker 2: MVP candidacy last year. It was a huge game. It
Speaker 2: was Oh, this is a tough one though, because you
Speaker 2: might not have seen it because it was on Christmas Day.
Speaker 2: So it was on Christmas Day and you were with
Speaker 2: your people in Los Angeles. So I'll just say it.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was Do you have a guess
Speaker 2: or do you have any recollection?
Speaker 3: And no, I mean I get my guess would be
Speaker 3: it was against Seattle.
Speaker 2: No, so it wasn't against Seattle. It was against Baltimore.
Speaker 2: But Bolteahmore's head coach, Baltimore's defensive coordinator is now Seattle's
Speaker 2: head coach, Mike McDonald. You put rock Perty in the
Speaker 2: blender to the tune of four interceptions of forty two
Speaker 2: passer rating ended his MVP candidacy. So we're in a
Speaker 2: spot tonight where Seattle's at home, they're getting more than
Speaker 2: a field goal. Seattle feels sick about what happened last
Speaker 2: week now, so does San Francisco. San Francisco still doesn't
Speaker 2: have Christian McCaffrey, and whether Perty would admit it or not,
Speaker 2: a little little anxious about how he's played lately, particularly
Speaker 2: in second halves. Now. San Francisco historically over the last
Speaker 2: couple of years has dominated Seattle, including in a playoff game.
Speaker 2: But that's one of the reasons I think Seattle moved
Speaker 2: off Pete Carroll was they needed a defense that could
Speaker 2: deal with Shanahan's offense. Gino nine and four against the
Speaker 2: spread of night games, and the Niners have not covered
Speaker 2: their last six games against the spread against teams above
Speaker 2: five hundred. I think Seattle absolutely can win this game
Speaker 2: out right, and even if they don't, if the Niners
Speaker 2: get a late lead, I do not think Kyle is
Speaker 2: going to risk, you know, putting the ball in danger
Speaker 2: because of how they lost last week. I think They're
Speaker 2: gonna get super conservative and just try to get out
Speaker 2: of there with a win. So Seattle plus three and
Speaker 2: a half, and I think Gino and these receivers against
Speaker 2: that Niners pass defense can cook dk JSN, Tyler Lockett.
Speaker 2: So I like Seattle getting three and a half in
Speaker 2: this spot. Home divisional game short week, Seattle plus three
Speaker 2: and a half, next.
Speaker 3: Cash it Washing, Washing, Washington plus six and a half
Speaker 3: at Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So to me, this is this is purely the
Speaker 2: season has been. These big favorites aren't covering, and I
Speaker 2: don't trust Baltimore's past defense, and I think I think
Speaker 2: this is a game that I think Baltimore leads by
Speaker 2: four to ten points throughout, but that Washington's always hovering
Speaker 2: around to cover and the back door covers going to
Speaker 2: be there for him. Also, Lamar and the Ravens don't
Speaker 2: cover big spreads. Last three years, seven and eighteen against
Speaker 2: the spread when favored by more than three. And now
Speaker 2: everybody I think at this point knows the Lamar's career
Speaker 2: against the NFC. He's twenty one to one against the
Speaker 2: NFC straight up, but he's eleven and eleven against the spread.
Speaker 2: And so I think that was I like fading teams
Speaker 2: coming off overtime. Washington blew out their opponent last week
Speaker 2: so they could take it easy in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: Baltimore needed a fourth quarter comeback and then overtime, super emotional,
Speaker 2: important victory. So again this is not saying Washington is
Speaker 2: beating the Ravens. I don't think they're gonna beat the Ravens.
Speaker 2: It is saying, this feels to me like a thirty
Speaker 2: one to twenty seven type of football game. Of course,
Speaker 2: I would love to get seven and all risk losing
Speaker 2: the half point in that it goes down to six.
Speaker 2: I won't actually bet this until Sunday morning with the
Speaker 2: hope that I can get the full seven, but the
Speaker 2: pick right now will get locked at Washington plus six
Speaker 2: and a half. Big favorites not covering high octane game.
Speaker 2: I like Washington. Your thoughts on that, Demons before we
Speaker 2: move on, because I know you like both these teams,
Speaker 2: and I know the Ravens are your squad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that with that spread, I'm definitely
Speaker 3: not taking Baltimore minus the points. If I were go
Speaker 3: either way, it'd be with the Commanders both high flying
Speaker 3: or you know, fast paced offenses. Yeah, I definitely take
Speaker 3: the dog there.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right?
Speaker 3: Next next, you've got Cleveland plus nine and a half
Speaker 3: at Philly.
Speaker 2: All right, So Cleveland got blown out last week and
Speaker 2: Philly's coming off a bye. Philly coming off a bye.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's as good as people think
Speaker 2: and Cleveland getting blown out last week is actually good
Speaker 2: historically for teams covering. Teams that get blown out and
Speaker 2: then are big dogs the next week typically cover those spreads.
Speaker 2: I also think Philly is benefiting from the fact that
Speaker 2: we didn't see them play recently. So Philly, we saw
Speaker 2: them blow a game against Atlanta unspeakable. We then saw
Speaker 2: them almost lose but escape with a win against New Orleans,
Speaker 2: and at the time people were like, oh, well that's
Speaker 2: a good win. New Orleans is good. No, they're not
Speaker 2: New Orleans is who I told you guys they were.
Speaker 2: And then we saw them get a rematch of the
Speaker 2: team that put them out of the playoffs last year
Speaker 2: in Tampa Bay and get absolutely whacked. But they had
Speaker 2: a bye week, so I think people are forgetting how
Speaker 2: down everyone was on Philadelphia Hurts. The last eight times
Speaker 2: he's been a favorite of more than seven has covered
Speaker 2: one of them. And Hurts had been historically grade at home,
Speaker 2: but his zero to four against the spread in his
Speaker 2: last four home starts this quite simply in the Year
Speaker 2: of the underdog. Covering is I think the biggest spread
Speaker 2: of the season so far. And you guys know how
Speaker 2: I feel about Deshaun Watson and the Browns offense, and
Speaker 2: that all that stands. I'm just not I think Philadelphia
Speaker 2: is going to miss the playoffs. So I think Philadelphia
Speaker 2: is a C team and Cleveland is a D team,
Speaker 2: and I'm getting nine and a half points. And there's
Speaker 2: always the chance that for some reason Jamis Winston comes
Speaker 2: in the game, and in which case Cleveland could win
Speaker 2: the football game. Like Philadelphia is a quarterback change away
Speaker 2: from being a legit I'm sorry, Cleveland is a quarterback
Speaker 2: change away from being a legitimate football team. So I'll
Speaker 2: grab the nine and a half points.
Speaker 3: Next Arizona plus five and a half at green Bay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. So this is another one where I
Speaker 2: don't think the gap between these teams is as big
Speaker 2: as Vegas does. Like green Bay coaching masterclass for them
Speaker 2: to get those wins over the Colts and the Titans
Speaker 2: with Malik Willis, But I thought they looked bad for
Speaker 2: stretches in that Vikings game before the Furies comeback, and
Speaker 2: I did not think they looked great against a totally
Speaker 2: beat down Rams team. And so now you're playing a
Speaker 2: Cardinals team that offensively is starting to figure some things
Speaker 2: out in the running game, and I'm getting like I'm
Speaker 2: getting five and a half points. This certainly feels like
Speaker 2: this could be twenty four to twenty. Green Bay could
Speaker 2: be like last week twenty four to twenty three Arizona
Speaker 2: and Kyler in his career as a dog twenty seven
Speaker 2: and sixteen against the spread and as a road dog
Speaker 2: of more than four eleven, three and two against the spread.
Speaker 2: And so I just I think Arizona right now is
Speaker 2: a touch undervalued, and I think green Bay right now
Speaker 2: is a touch overvalued. I think the line here should
Speaker 2: be green Bay minus three. I think that is a
Speaker 2: fair line given how both these teams are playing. I'm
Speaker 2: getting five and a half. So I'll take Arizona plus
Speaker 2: five and a half and don't be shocked if Arizona
Speaker 2: wins this game outright and all of a sudden. One
Speaker 2: of the narratives coming out of Week six is, oh,
Speaker 2: is Kyler Murray fully back and by full like Kyler
Speaker 2: Murray a couple of years ago pre contract when they
Speaker 2: started like nine to zero? Is that version of Kyler
Speaker 2: Murray back? And I'm not saying it's panic time demons
Speaker 2: about Jordan Love, but Jordan Love's got to put a
Speaker 2: full game together. He's got to put a full, good
Speaker 2: game together. He's he's yet to do that, and he
Speaker 2: did in that Rams game. They were able to get
Speaker 2: away with it. But Demons, he went full Will Levice.
Speaker 2: Never go full Will Levis. You just can't do it.
Speaker 2: That was an impresive pick. I mean it was. It
Speaker 2: was really a remarkable pick, all right, last one?
Speaker 3: So you got Carolina plus six and a half versus Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I again, and I understand Carolina is brutal. You are,
Speaker 2: That's fair. I mean, Carolina might be the worst team
Speaker 2: in the league, and their losses this year have all
Speaker 2: been blowouts. They lost to the Saints by thirty seven,
Speaker 2: the Chargers by twenty three, the Bengals by ten, the
Speaker 2: Bears by twenty six. Okay, so I understand that part
Speaker 2: of it, and they all, you know, they do have
Speaker 2: one win obviously over the Raiders. Here is why I
Speaker 2: like Carolina. Here, I think there is going to be
Speaker 2: an element of Atlanta, a little high on its own supply,
Speaker 2: a little foot off the gas element to them in
Speaker 2: that they stole that win. They escaped with that win
Speaker 2: against the Saints. They then escaped with a win against
Speaker 2: Tampa in overtime after they had seem lost the game twice.
Speaker 2: That game was back on Thursday, so you get the
Speaker 2: mini by you're feeling good, Kirk, you know throws for
Speaker 2: five hundred. You have maybe the worst team in the
Speaker 2: league coming up. Do I think they're going to be
Speaker 2: one hundred percent fully locked? Do I think that there's
Speaker 2: a chance they have a little look ahead to Seattle?
Speaker 2: Tampa Dallas is their next stretch of games. And do
Speaker 2: I think this could be a game demanse where Carolina
Speaker 2: you know, you see on red zone you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: Scott Hansen pops on. It's like and the Panthers are
Speaker 2: up ten to nothing and the rest of the game
Speaker 2: is Atlanta clawing its way back in to ultimately win.
Speaker 2: I do feel that way, and so I again, I
Speaker 2: don't think Carolina is gonna win, but I think this
Speaker 2: could be a twenty to seventeen Atlanta win where Carolina,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, is a little more focused,
Speaker 2: little more desperate team early and then Atlanta slowly chips away.
Speaker 2: So I'll take the six and a half points. This
Speaker 2: is another one just for people that are betting with me.
Speaker 2: I'd rather risk losing the six and a half and
Speaker 2: it going to six with the possibility of it going
Speaker 2: up to seven. So I'll wait till Sunday morning to
Speaker 2: bet this, but right now Carolina plus six and a half.
Speaker 2: So here are the five picks, all dogs, four of
Speaker 2: them big dogs. Seattle at home tonight getting three and
Speaker 2: a half against San Francisco, Washington getting six and a
Speaker 2: half at Baltimore, Cleveland getting nine and a half at Philly,
Speaker 2: Arizona getting five and a half at Green Bay, and
Speaker 2: Carolina getting six and a half at home against Atlanta.
Speaker 2: We're thirteen eleven and one on the year. We're still
Speaker 2: chasing that elusive five and zero. But you know what,
Speaker 2: I won't be greedy. I'll take four and one. I'll
Speaker 2: take four and one and be a nice seventeen twelve
Speaker 2: and one on the year, give myself a big cushion
Speaker 2: once we're approaching, you know, kind of the one third
Speaker 2: mark of the season. All right, speaking of getting profitable,
Speaker 2: Demons a week away from evening up his teaser record
Speaker 2: take us through last week.
Speaker 3: Bell, Yeah, there reminds me. I don't know if I've
Speaker 3: ever been five hundred on the teasers and my two
Speaker 3: years or.
Speaker 2: Three No, I do know you haven't, probably because last
Speaker 2: year I think you've lost nine in a row.
Speaker 3: So last week it was the two teams seven and
Speaker 3: a half point teaser at minus one sixty three Cincinnati
Speaker 3: plus ten obviously cash versus Baltimore and in the Indiana
Speaker 3: plus ten against Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's the teams, but the Colts, the Colts plus ten
Speaker 3: at the Jags that cash as well. Uh So this
Speaker 3: week we're gonna do another seven and a half point
Speaker 3: teaser at minus one.
Speaker 2: Sixty three, one sixty Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm gonna tease Houston up to basically a
Speaker 3: pick them at plus half point at New England, and
Speaker 3: then we're gonna do Washington plus fourteen at Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling pretty good about that. I think Washington will
Speaker 3: probably be covering the entire game, and I expect Houston
Speaker 3: take care of business against the Patriots even without Nicos.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. So Nico Collins injury
Speaker 2: is big, but not so much for this game, more
Speaker 2: for the future. Here's my question. Do you like this
Speaker 2: less with Drake May starting versus Jacoby Brissett.
Speaker 3: No, I so honestly, I will say that I was
Speaker 3: not assuming Drake May was going to be playing, but
Speaker 3: I still, yes, I like it.
Speaker 2: By the way, it didn't it didn't change the line
Speaker 2: for the record, when New England announced it, the line
Speaker 2: didn't move the only and I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people think it actually for this week is bad for
Speaker 2: New England rookies first start ever against this defense, right,
Speaker 2: So I get that part of it that it just
Speaker 2: the worry that I would And I'm gonna give this
Speaker 2: teaser a B plus. Again. You know, I don't love
Speaker 2: teasing through the zero, but when you're doing seven and
Speaker 2: a half point teasers like you almost, you're gonna tease
Speaker 2: through the zeros a lot because you're doing big teasers.
Speaker 2: The the concern would be that other guys on the
Speaker 2: Patriots have been kind of sapped of their spirit by
Speaker 2: Jacoby and the fact they don't throw the ball and
Speaker 2: those right, there's gonna be a rejuvenation feature the way
Speaker 2: we saw with the Panthers. Take Bryce Young out of there,
Speaker 2: score thirty six points with Andy Dalton, they win one
Speaker 2: game and then they go right back to me and
Speaker 2: the Panthers. But I'll give it a B plus and
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for you. I like this teaser. All right,
Speaker 2: let's do our offer.
Speaker 3: If Drake May is on the brain too much, guys,
Speaker 3: I'll sweet out the next the new teaser. But if
Speaker 3: I don't tweet anything, this is the teaser we're going with. Okay,
Speaker 3: But yeah, so the Week six offer. Last week, the
Speaker 3: offer nearly hit even the Jags one, even though he
Speaker 3: left him out. But your guy Ma Holmes couldn't hold
Speaker 3: up his end of the bargain. So this week we're
Speaker 3: gonna stick with your guys. Caleb and Trevor facing off
Speaker 3: in London, and both are coming off two hundred yard games.
Speaker 3: So with that exchange rate in mind, the offer is
Speaker 3: Trevor and Caleb to both throw for two point fifty
Speaker 3: at plus four hundred.
Speaker 2: I'll take it. I'll take it. Yeah, I'll take it.
Speaker 2: A little worried about Trevor against the Bears defense, but
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have to throw the ball because
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be trailing and so yeah, and Caleb,
Speaker 2: I think is gonna be able to cook up that
Speaker 2: that Jags defense. So yeah, I will take that offer.
Speaker 2: All right, we are going to We're gonna skip the
Speaker 2: listener questions today because we started late and we're still
Speaker 2: having some video issues. But go Royals. Enjoy the playoff baseball.
Speaker 2: Let's have a great Thursday night football game tonight and enjoy.
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