WEBVTT - Summer Loving (6/21/2017) 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:06.880 Welcome to the solid verbal. Come that for me. I'm 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.680 a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.640 I want to be happy. You want to be happy 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:13.000 for day Edith State? 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:19.919 Is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan and Tye, welcome back 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.279 to the solid verbal, boys and girls. My name is 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:26.680 ty Hillebrandt joining me as always a fine gentleman. Now 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.560 marry gentleman, a proper gentleman over there in New York 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.520 f in City. Dan Rubinstein, how are you, sir, Tie? 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:38.200 It is a joy and pleasure. As always, I'm doing 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.160 pretty well. It's a busy time, so we're recording this 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:45.320 Wednesday evening. The NBA Draft is tomorrow nights. Will you 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.320 watch any of that? By the way, are you invested 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:47.599 at all? 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:48.000 Nope? 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.720 Okay, well I am because I have to work during 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:54.000 it for the day job. But it's sort of a 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.680 hectic time because we've got all sorts of college football 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.880 shows that we're planning and working on, and the season 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:02.880 is actually not all that far away, ty No, it's not. 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:08.039 It is late June. We're almost into July, which is 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:12.640 conference media days and conversations begin in earnest. I saw 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.759 that the magazines are out. Have you picked up any 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:16.119 of those? 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.440 I haven't yet, And you know what, I haven't been 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.679 a couple of years, to be perfectly honest. I've seen 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.440 the Athlon, yeah, for a couple of years running now 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.360 because they've been kind enough to send it to us. 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:31.160 Get at me Athlon, by the way, I have a 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.800 new address, get at me. Would love to see some 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.080 Athlon materials. 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.920 I have not seen Phil Steele though in a couple 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:38.320 of years. 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:40.600 Yeah, so I haven't picked any of those up yet, 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:42.880 but it's we're right there and one of the things 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.720 we like to do going into summer, and we have 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.880 specific theme shows still planned out. I think we've got 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:55.320 another how College Football Works episode under wraps in in production, 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.760 sort of figuring things out. We've got a specialized show 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.240 with Bill Barnwell, our friend who covers the NFL DESPN. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.200 We did the Emo show Emo and Pop Punk Show 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.120 with him last year. We have a follow up non 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:09.240 emo show, No Emo important definitely off topic, yes, And 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:14.120 we have the exhaustive and nerdy and ever so navel 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:18.320 gazing episode uh sort of dedicated to the history of 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.280 the solid verbal how it all happened? We get tweets. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:21.880 We still get tweets all the time, like when we 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:23.919 ask for a question like how did you two come together? 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.000 My two favorite tweets yeah, or what are nails? 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.200 Are? A? The ones where they mix you and eye up, 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:32.400 which happens all the time. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.639 What's Dan's secret day job? Right? 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:38.320 And B. On a very personal note, the people who 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:42.240 spell my name I'm assuming incorrectly, but I can never 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.440 quite tell because it has happened inadvertently, totally innocently in 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.640 the past where they spell thie Thai. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:51.040 Is that true? 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.560 That is true? I get. I get a couple of 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:58.000 those a year, either via Twitter or email. And obviously 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.680 you know that's not a major talking point as we 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:02.920 get into the history of show that again we're going 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:06.400 to do later on in July. But an important little 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.080 side note something that I appreciate. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:13.320 I do have a follow up from last week, because, 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.519 as you know, when you're married, it's a partnership tie 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:21.520 it is it's it's communication, it's making sure you're on 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.240 the same page. And because we are doing a show 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:30.280 dedicated today to a summer love summer crushes, I'm kind 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.240 of going to love Dan. You know what that's about, right, 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.360 I do know what that's about tie. Yeah, I've had 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.280 many summer crushes. I no longer do just one right, 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.880 but I do have breaking news, tie breaking news. Do 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.840 you want to play the sound if you have it 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:55.240 at your It's been a while we have break now. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.440 I don't know what we are going to call her 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.360 long term and the way that we call your lovely 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:01.480 wife Kate, solid wife Kate. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:02.760 How are we doing this now? 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:10.240 But I do have permission. Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa wow, 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:15.480 double sound effect. It's the solid wife, Rihanna, It's the 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.120 it is. And how did I know you were going 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.320 to go there? No, my wife's name is Jody with 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.039 an I, Jody with an eye, and maybe we'll just 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.080 always say Jody with an eye because I do get 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.159 a little bit infuriated when I see jod Y. But 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.360 Jody with an eye. She is from Chicago, she went 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.480 to Michigan. She is much smarter and better looking than 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.159 I am, and she still decided to marry me. And 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.719 I don't think she knows how to listen to podcasts, 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.839 so that's probably for the best. We're cool. We're cool, 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.320 but yeah, named after Chicago cub from the eighties, Jody 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:55.320 Davis and if you've ever listened to Andy Staples show 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.600 on Sirius XM, which maybe we don't have a lot 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.160 of crossover, but every single time I'm on, Andy introduces 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:05.839 me as Dan Rubenstein espianation, the solid verbal, and I always, 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:10.080 of course think of Dan's I guess then girlfriend Jody 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.840 because Andy met her, so he's he outs it on 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.360 Serious XM all the time. This is her debut here, 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:16.280 it's Jody with it. 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.800 Did it take a lot of convincing to get her to, 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:21.800 you know, sign the waiver? Now? 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:22.440 Really? No? 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:23.479 Okay, good, No. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:25.720 It was just like, I didn't say your name because 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.880 I figured you didn't want to have it out there 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.560 if you didn't want it, and she was like, nah, 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:30.760 it's fine, it's just my name. 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.320 So there, I think I said Kate's name right out 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.400 of the shoot. You probably, and I'm not sure how 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.640 that went over. I wasn't as courteous to ask her 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:42.159 in advance. And yeah, we've come a long way since then. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.400 I've got two years on you in the marriage department. 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:48.560 But true, Okay, So Kate and Jody now the perspective 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:50.800 solid spouses. 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.719 So tonight's show, it's about summer crushes in college football 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.279 going into the twenty seventeen season, So all of these 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:02.360 people that we have crushes on are competing for second place. 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:06.440 That's right, absolutely, Okay, we did a show like this 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.120 about a year ago. I went back and checked the tapes, 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:11.440 and in that show, we had a bunch of other 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.760 sound effects and it's just kind of confusing. So we 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.680 tried to We tried to come a bit pretty straightforward. 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.200 It also makes the editing process a little easier on 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:24.960 you and I. Now we're gonna call this episode Summer eleven. 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:31.040 It's a very timely, very very timely, because today, I 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:32.800 believe is actually the first day of summer. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:37.159 The summer really the summer solstice excuse me, plstice, Yeah, 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:39.640 is upon us. And what we're doing, as you mentioned, 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:44.200 is we're going through players, duos, coaches, teams, you name it, whatever, 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:49.240 things in college football, entities, people in college football that 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.400 we've got a crush on. Now as we enter the 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.640 twenty seventeen season, because as you mentioned, as we get 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:58.280 now into July with conference weeks and whatnot, and then 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.200 certainly as we get into August and we do our 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.680 previews and September as the season starts. Things are going 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:08.599 to start rolling along here pretty quickly, as memory serves. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:10.720 I think you and I only have about two or 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:15.400 three more episodes that we have to figure out before 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.600 the start of the college football season. The rest of 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.280 them we've already sort of earmarked. We know what we're 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.920 going to be talking about. This is true and this 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:24.920 is now one of those episodes. Is we now start 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.040 to try and build for the twenty seventeen season. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.720 I have my own sound effects, by the way you 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:33.160 do for the summer Love and Yours. You're just really innocent, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.800 like hearkens back, you know, Grease and the fifties whatever. 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:44.240 Yeah, Okay, you're a little more a little bit more 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:48.600 aggressive with it, jain Ah, But I like itsh do 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.800 you want to go first? Who's your first summer crush here? 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.040 So my first summer crush and we did not coordinate. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:55.520 So maybe we'll have crossover, That's. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.680 What I was hoping that we might have. Yeah, and 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.720 we're gonna have to fight Quentin Fly. I thought about 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.280 putting him on my list, Quinn Flowers. 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.400 Okay, so I went with a lot of guys that 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.360 were not a lot, but some that were sort of 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.000 below the radar because crushes is sort of from afar. 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.840 We know, like Bo Scarborough, right, everybody's got a crush 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.080 on both Scarborough everybody. You know, there's a number of 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.320 players that I look at and I'm always about, you know, 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.160 the quiet one in the corner, like, hey, what's her deal? 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:22.720 Right? 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.280 So to me, Quinn Flowers definitely does not fit that, 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.800 the quiet one in the corner, but still playing for USF, 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:34.640 an American team and not on the same sort of 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.280 radar that you know quarterbacks such as maybe Sam Darnold 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:38.480 might be heading into the sit. 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:40.360 I have a crucio and Sam Dart We're not going 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:40.520 to do. 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.840 That's not that's not who cares. Quinn Flowers, though, is 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:45.960 a one man wrecking crew. And if you watched us 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.040 F at all last year under Willie Taggart, and I 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:49.839 imagine it's going to be the same under Charlie Strong 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:54.640 this year. He is everybody knows what's coming with the 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.520 USF offense, or it at least did last year that 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.360 you know, they were going to be running sort of 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.680 some Baylor stuff on the outside, smartpo stuff, and he 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.839 was going to be just he was a one man 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.440 first down and it is such a joy to watch 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.040 somebody take over the game, especially when as a polished 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:14.280 passer it's not there. But in terms of just eighting yards, 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.120 nobody fills up quicker than Quintin Flowers. I love watching him. 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.800 Quintin Flowers came into Bloom last year. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.079 Dan, mmmmm, how dare you. 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:29.880 Came into Bloom? Was fun to watch. We talked about him, 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.800 you know, at Nauzume to the extent that we could 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.240 as someone who wasn't playing in a Power five conference, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.120 but certainly he was notable. Willie Taggart had a pretty 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:46.040 good team, rushed for fifteen hundred yards and eighteen touchdowns 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.640 yes last year from the quarterback position, and then as 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:53.880 a passer threw for twenty four more touchdowns. So to 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.760 call him a one man wrecking crew is definitely not 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.880 a stretch. I'm very curious to say, see now where 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.880 that system goes under Charlie Strong, And I think, as 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.600 you correctly pointed out, I wouldn't expect that production to 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.320 go down. I think he would only improve maybe a 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.360 few tweaks here and there. But Quentin Flowers is going 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.839 to be an exciting player and I'm glad you put 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.040 him on your list, because I almost put him online 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.320 and then decided at the very end to leave him off. 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.320 And something important to realize is Sterling Gilbert is the 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.160 new offensive coordinator at USF and the system that he 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:32.160 ran last year at Texas is pretty similar thematically to 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.320 what USF did last year, with some obvious tweaks, but 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.679 you know the history of him at Tulsa and Baylor 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:42.280 and Texas. It'll be a very familiar scene watching USF 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:42.760 next year. 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.599 I think Sterling Gilbert has had mobile quarterbacks before in 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.280 the past. He found a good way to utilize them, 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.480 and maybe we'll see some of those passing numbers go 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.760 up for flowers as well. Yes, sir, all right, while 0:10:53.800 --> 0:11:00.000 we're talking quarterbacks. Oh God, talk about my boy Eric Dungee. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:00.880 Mm hmm. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.480 I told you on g chat, which apparently g chat's 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:07.560 going away soon. Rip oh man. I kind of have 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.880 the nickname grungy Eric Dungee stuck in my head and 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:14.760 I don't know why. Okay, I wonder if it's got 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.200 something to do with our Drummond Fife, but I don't 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.000 know if you've ever used the word grungy as it 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:21.400 relates to the Drummond. 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:22.760 Fife plays in the Northeast. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:25.880 Here's what I like about Eric Dungee. He's at Syracuse. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:29.080 By the way, he's their starting quarterback. Only played nine 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.880 games last year, but in those nine games a sixty 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:37.880 five percent completion percentage, about three hundred passing yards per game. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.480 He's fairly mobile. He's gonna be in year two under 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.880 Dino Babers, which is a wide open, aired out system 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.760 up there at Syracuse. He just seems grungey. He's got 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.360 that fight in him, and I like that in my 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.000 Syracuse quarterback. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.360 From across the contrary he was when he that was 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.600 one of our over unders for the season last year 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.640 as over under of total yards or something like four 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.160 thousand and Underdno Baber's. But year two, I think you're 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.600 absolutely right. I think he's going to put in an 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.439 even bigger year if he can stay healthy and has 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:10.800 a good I mean, the receivers last year were really good. 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:14.199 I think in year two of the system, I think 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.040 they're going to excel. I don't think a Bowl is 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.719 out of the question with this team. It's not out 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.880 of the question, but I'm not going to lie. They've 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:26.920 got a run of games here from late September through 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:32.000 early November where they go to LSU, they got Pit 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.760 at home, Clemson at home at Miami, and at Florida State. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.559 That's a tough little stretch there. All of those games 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.800 conceivably be losses. And that's not even counting the other 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.600 tweener games on their ACC schedule, like at NC State. 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.080 It's not even counting at Louisville, which happens later on 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.520 in the year. So I think it's a bit of 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.360 a stretch for them to get the six, but you know, 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.560 ACC being what it is, you can't ever fully count 0:12:58.559 --> 0:12:58.800 it out. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.400 I think that's a good crush TI. I like Eric 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.400 done a lot. We've talked about him as he made 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.800 his way in sort of out of nowhere from Portland 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:05.520 to Syracuse. 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:07.600 Where are we going next? 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.280 All right? You ready there it is? 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.920 Yeah, feeling the vapors, Dan feeling the vapors. 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:18.240 I'm going to go with both of the head coaches 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.880 at the service academies with the biggest rivalry because they're 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.640 obviously more than two service academies, so arm n New Modelolo, 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:29.120 Army Navy. They're coaches specifically, Ken do you modololo at Navy? 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:33.800 Jeff Monkin at Army, and we don't generally focus a 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.679 ton on these schools during the season unless they're playing 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:42.400 somebody that perhaps has a bigger place. I don't think 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.440 bigger place is the appropriate term, but you know gets 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.120 more attention in college football, but you know, playing in 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.520 a Power five conference, And what ken You Modololo has 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.800 done at Navy. And I know people are quick to 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.680 sort of pigeonhole the sort of option, flex bone whatever 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.600 systems into a very specific category. But Tom Herman this 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:03.080 offseas and was the guy, and Keny You Modololo was 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.800 the guy who beat up on the guy this past 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:10.200 year at Navy. Ken You Modolo beats Notre Dame, not inconsistently. 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.280 And Jeff Mounkin what he's done at Army in getting 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.880 the cadets at Army over the top against Navy to 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.360 end the season, overhauling that program you have if you 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.520 haven't read Stephen Godfrey from Espionation, he embedded with Army 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.640 leading up to that game, and he has changed recruiting, 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.960 He has changed the way that program operates with the 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.440 challenges that both of those schools have year in and 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.320 year out. I won't pretend like I have any sort 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.720 of first person knowledge of what they go through, but 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.960 it's certainly a very different experience. I love that both 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:44.000 of those schools like who wants to play? The week before, 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.920 you know, Notre Dame plays Navy, no matter how much 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.240 better and more talented Notre Dame is. And this is 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.680 I guarantee you ty, I'm not specifically picking on Notre 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.600 Dame in this instance beyond them being a much bigger 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:58.120 football powerhouse. If Navy is playing whoever in a bowl game, 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.880 if Navy's playing Houston this year, made Appleway last year, 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.640 Tom Herman, every single one of those coaches in the 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:09.520 week leading up is like, well shit, well damn it all, 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.960 how do we h? I love that both of those 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.560 coaches at this point, but specifically new Manololo has gotten 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:20.160 abed to the point where they just stress people out 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.840 no end. And I love that. I think it's worth recognizing. 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:26.800 And look twenty fifteen, the best quarterback perhaps ever, most 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.640 prolific quarterback and Keenan Reynolds for Navy. And what do 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.800 they do in twenty sixteen? They beat Notre Dame in Houston. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:33.720 They beat Notre Dame. I mean, the thing about Navy 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.400 what's been amazing. They're not like a pushover. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.560 Well people, that was the specific criticism, right, not specifically 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:39.720 as a Notre Dame fan. 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.440 Oh, they play the service academies. Well, you don't want 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.720 to play that service academy because they've actually got a 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.280 lot of recent success against Notre Dame. They had a 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.880 pretty good football team. You mentioned what they did to Houston. 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:53.200 This is a good program that he's built. They've been 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.520 consistent year in and year out. And oh, by the way, 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.240 Army made a bowl game for the first time in 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.920 forever last year. Hm. They've turned that pro around as 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.160 well and started building something there. So it's cool to 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:04.960 see that happen. 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.480 May I ask you a follow up question because I 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:12.560 can relate. During the Oregon coaching search, I was looking 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.720 at the coaches across college football who've had relatively consistent success, 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.720 and I talked myself into if Orgon hires Ken new Modalolo, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.600 I'd be pretty pumped about it, just because of his 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.880 personal reputation, the success he's had, and could he translate 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.760 that on a bigger level. I was, I had talked 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.840 myself into it. You did, I remember that Notre Dame 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:36.200 is a very different place than Oregon, but academic restrictions 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.640 not unlike what the Naval Academy in Aapolis is a 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:43.840 ridiculously good place to you know, academically. Could you see 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:48.960 yourself talking yourself into Ken new Modalolo. Nope, and what 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.280 he's done really Nope. 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.520 No, And if I would love that it's entirely personal 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:58.920 with me, I would. I would, full on there was 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.080 a leaf would turn over for me for Notre Dame 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.680 if they had hired keny Manololo. No, wouldn't do it 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.359 for me. I came to the offense, I get bored. 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.840 I get bored out of my mind watching the offense. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.960 Now when they run it well, they're obviously very good, 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.280 they're very effective. They've run it very well against Notre Dame. 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.640 But I just I get bored out of my mind 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.680 watching it. Really I do, Yeah, I do see. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.880 I like it. I mean, but consider running it with 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.000 players Notre Dame, athletes like. 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.720 Josh and Mike mcglinchy. Yeah, I mean, obviously it's a 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:34.600 different system. My turn, Dan, we're talking quarterbacks. Last time, 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.639 I got other quarterbacks here on my list that I 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:41.560 won't go into. Right now, let's talk about my voice. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:46.000 Saquon Barkley, who's better. I don't know if anybody is listen. 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:48.520 I know I just made the goofy voice when I 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.720 talked about Sam Darnold and Saquon. By no means is 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.440 under the radar. But for me, Saquon's got a little 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.720 bit of a local connection. Not only does he go 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.520 to my alma mater, penn State, he's also from the 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:05.040 town across the river from me, originally from Copley, Pennsylvania, 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:10.560 went to Whitehall High School, one of our rivals back 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.920 in the day. In high school, five and a half 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.760 yards per carry. Last year over fourteen hundred yards, eighteen 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.600 touchdowns on the ground. The line is improving, It's been 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.600 improving the last couple of years. The offense clearly found 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.160 an extra gear with whatever Joe Moore had figured out 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:33.080 after their loss to Michigan. And I am just terrified 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.359 that a freak injury could derail this whole thing, because 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.480 he's a running back and that would be just the luck. 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.479 But he's got moves that remind me of like a 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.960 weird hybrid between Reggie Bush and Lashawn McCoy. He gets 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.639 up the top speed quickly, he runs with power. I 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.600 think he's a guaranteed top five, top ten pick provided 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.439 he stays healthy, and he should be able to do 0:18:56.480 --> 0:19:00.800 incredible things now in year two under Morehead, hopefully with 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:05.760 trace McSorley improving as well. I'm not the only one 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.520 who has a crush on this guy. It's not a 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.760 secret crush. You could argue the entire NFL and Big 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:15.680 Ten have giant overt crushes on Saquon Barkley. But I 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:20.360 think provided he stays healthy and the offense continues to improve, 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:25.280 it's going to be a monster, mega Heisman worthy caliber 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.320 season for him. And I'm just damn excited. I'm damn 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:29.880 excited to see what he can do. Now. 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:31.960 Who is the last Bens State running back that got 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:37.920 you this excited? Evan royst No, I mean business decision, 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:38.879 Silas threadit. 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:41.960 You got to go back. A pretty good way is 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:46.400 to like key John Carter, Curtis Enis to really find 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:50.000 a running back that I think had this kind of 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:53.639 hype headed into the season. Austin Scott was interesting, but 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:57.479 he never materialized for Penn State. So yeah, it's been 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.600 a while since you had a real body of work 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:03.440 to go on entering a new football season. And he's 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.720 the goods man. I mean, if you've watched him for 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.320 any period of time or just a few downs at 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.080 a time, you know that this kid's got the moves, 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.400 he's got the speed, he's got the vision, and he's 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.520 a unique talent. So there's a lot of reason for 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:19.320 optimism there. 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:21.520 Yeah, slowed down a little bit back half of the 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:23.879 season last year, and he was obviously beat up a 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.320 little bit, but if he's able to do it over 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.320 the course of that full season, because we saw some 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:30.719 of those runs against Tile State, against Iowa, he had 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:33.560 an obviously an enormous day in usc sort of was 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.520 the cherry on top of a terrific season. But yes, 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.399 the ability is there. It'd be great to see it 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.480 week in and week out a little bit more this year. 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:43.600 That's nitpicking. He's so great. 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:45.760