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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Come that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for day Edith State?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan and Tye, welcome back

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Speaker 2: to the solid verbal, boys and girls. My name is

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Speaker 2: ty Hillebrandt joining me as always a fine gentleman. Now

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Speaker 2: marry gentleman, a proper gentleman over there in New York

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Speaker 2: f in City. Dan Rubinstein, how are you, sir, Tie?

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Speaker 1: It is a joy and pleasure. As always, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: pretty well. It's a busy time, so we're recording this

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Speaker 1: Wednesday evening. The NBA Draft is tomorrow nights. Will you

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Speaker 1: Okay, well I am because I have to work during

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Speaker 1: It is late June. We're almost into July, which is

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Speaker 2: I haven't yet, And you know what, I haven't been

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Speaker 2: a couple of years, to be perfectly honest. I've seen

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Speaker 2: because they've been kind enough to send it to us.

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Speaker 1: Get at me Athlon, by the way, I have a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I haven't picked any of those up yet,

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Speaker 1: We did the Emo show Emo and Pop Punk Show

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Speaker 1: What's Dan's secret day job? Right?

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Speaker 2: And B. On a very personal note, the people who

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Speaker 1: It's a very timely, very very timely, because today, I

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Speaker 1: I have my own sound effects, by the way you

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Speaker 1: do for the summer Love and Yours. You're just really innocent,

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Speaker 1: So to me, Quinn Flowers definitely does not fit that,

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Speaker 2: I think Sterling Gilbert has had mobile quarterbacks before in

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Speaker 2: we're talking quarterbacks. Oh God, talk about my boy Eric Dungee.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough little stretch there. All of those games

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Speaker 2: No, And if I would love that it's entirely personal

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Speaker 2: if they had hired keny Manololo. No, wouldn't do it

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Speaker 1: Who is the last Bens State running back that got

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Speaker 1: Go off the radar.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there are plenty of people who have heard

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Speaker 2: And unless you follow recruiting very closely, unless you're a

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Speaker 1: It's funny your terminology was what it was because when

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Speaker 1: at Florida State, but I still think he is going

433
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Speaker 1: to be and huge shoes to fill. I don't even

434
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Speaker 1: think we fully appreciated what Dalvin Cook was and had

435
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Speaker 1: the ability to do for Florida State and was himself

436
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: a one man wrecking crew. But cam Makers should jump

437
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 1: in and immediately become one of the best, you know,

438
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: dozen or so running backs in the country. I would say,

439
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: at least the physical talent is there to become.

440
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Speaker 2: So if you go and watch any of his highlights

441
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Speaker 2: from high school, it's clear that he's a man among boys.

442
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 2: We've had this discussion before, Dan those players did not

443
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Speaker 2: exist at my high school.

444
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: Same now they do, but same.

445
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: Feeling in for big shoes. Dalvin Cook, who got drafted

446
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: to the NFL and was a Heisman contender for a while,

447
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,239
Speaker 2: brought a lot of excitement to Florida State. I think

448
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: cam Akers has a chance to be better. I'm excited

449
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: to see him out there.

450
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Speaker 1: Fair points. I have a crush because we're going to

451
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Speaker 1: stay with the sort of freshman sensation theme. I'm going

452
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: to go with what may have been the best freshman

453
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: in the country last year, but because of coaching changes.

454
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: I hope he does not get lost in the mix.

455
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: I imagine he is a preseason All American. So again

456
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: I am now looking at the you know, the prettiest

457
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Speaker 1: girl in the class.

458
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: But we need the music. We need the music.

459
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, as a defensive lineman in two thousand and eight, TI,

460
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Speaker 1: I'm seeing this. I was looking up freshman defensive linemans

461
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 1: and what defensive line men and what they're able to do.

462
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: Alden Smith for Missouri in two thousand and nine, excuse me,

463
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: nineteen tackles for a loss. That's pretty ridiculous for a freshman.

464
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: Roosevelt Knicks for Kent State twenty tackles for a loss

465
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: in twenty ten as a freshman. So the twenty tackles

466
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Speaker 1: for a loss. In terms of productivity for a freshman

467
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, nobody really in twenty eleven, twenty twelve, same,

468
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: not a lot of freshmen just making that immediate impact.

469
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,239
Speaker 1: Devonte Fields for Florida or excuse me for TCU. Right

470
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: around then, was had ahead a nice year at Oliver

471
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Speaker 1: for Houston.

472
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, good one twenty.

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Speaker 1: Two and a half tackles for a loss for Houston.

474
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Speaker 1: You saw what he was able to do, double team

475
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Speaker 1: whatever against Louisville and that just complete destruction on the

476
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Speaker 1: Thursday night game. What that Houston defense was able to

477
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: do against Louisville Cardinals at Oliver is that damn good?

478
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: The guy who led the country and tackles for a

479
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: loss last year had twenty three and a half. At

480
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: Oliver finished with twenty two and a half in thirteen games.

481
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick taken in the first round. Same number. Yeah,

482
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: just in terms of what the production level of what

483
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Speaker 1: at Oliver did as a we freshman who is yet

484
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: to even figure everything out as a dominant college defensive lineman.

485
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: I really hope he doesn't get lost in the shuffle

486
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Speaker 1: this year. Obviously, every offense that plays against the Cougars

487
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 1: is going to pay extra attention to him. But my god,

488
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: you want to mention Cam Akers as a man amongst

489
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Speaker 1: boys going into the season as a true freshman. As

490
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Speaker 1: a true sophomore, at Oliver is a titan amongst boys.

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Speaker 2: You can ridiculous make a fairly solid case that At

492
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Speaker 2: Oliver's the best college football player in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those situations where like after Josh

494
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Speaker 1: Rosen's freshman year, they're like, well, in two years, will

495
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Speaker 1: be the number one overall pick. And there's you know,

496
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: you can make the case that Dexter Lawrence is that

497
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Speaker 1: guy right now of like way down the line, he's

498
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Speaker 1: going to be a number one overall pick. At Oliver's

499
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: right there. Just in terms of how Versaly is on

500
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Speaker 1: the line, I'm scared of him sitting on the fourteenth

501
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: floor of a building two thousand miles away from him.

502
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Speaker 1: He's so good. Shall we move on next?

503
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Speaker 2: My next crush, admittedly, is on my Casper mattress.

504
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Speaker 1: Dan A good one, that's I mean, you go, you

505
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: could go in a real weird direction with this one.

506
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Speaker 2: So they sent us mattresses. I don't know if you've

507
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Speaker 2: publicly disclosed it on the show.

508
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Speaker 1: They did.

509
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: I had an issue with my mattress before. When the

510
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Speaker 2: Solid Wife and I moved into our home. She had

511
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Speaker 2: this old memory foam mattress that was very comfortable. It

512
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: was more comfortable than my old mattress, But after sleeping

513
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: on it for about a year and a half. Two years,

514
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 2: I started getting lower back pain, shoulder pain. I just

515
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Speaker 2: thought I was an old man well into my thirties.

516
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: Now I'm thinking, all right, this is how it starts, right.

517
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Speaker 2: But then I read the Internet and the Internet said

518
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Speaker 2: that no, actually a mattress can cause you a fair

519
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Speaker 2: amount of bodily harm.

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Speaker 1: I was looking at the Internet.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't think that it could. You're just sleeping, But

522
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: as it goes, yeah, a mattress can do a lot

523
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 2: of harm your body. Then the casper showed up, and

524
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: first off, it was like magic. When you pop this

525
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: thing open, because it comes in like a vacuum sealed bag.

526
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: It's a heavy box, but it comes in a box

527
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Speaker 2: off a truck. You pull it into the home, you

528
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: push it up, push it up the stairs. You pop

529
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: the seal in like this vacuum sealed bag, and the

530
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Speaker 2: thing inflates. I don't know how they do it, but

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Speaker 2: somehow it utilates. You have a fully functioning, fully sized

532
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Speaker 2: mattress within about fifteen seconds. And I laid on this

533
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Speaker 2: thing and it was a much much different experience. It's

534
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 2: been a much different experience ever since then. And no

535
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Speaker 2: why I wouldn't lie to anyone out there because we're

536
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: all friends. The shoulder pain that I got in my

537
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: right shoulder has gone away, and the back pain that

538
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: I was getting has gone away. So it would seem

539
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: to me that the what four point eight rating, four

540
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: point eight out of five rating that it gets across

541
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,120
Speaker 2: it's thirty thousand or so global reviews, that seems to

542
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: be accurate, maybe even a little bit low. Some of

543
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: the reviews that have been a little bit more eloquent

544
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: than me have been that it's like quote sleeping on

545
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: a brioch and quote like being cradled by the tinkling

546
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: of a baby laughing in the moonlight, which I have

547
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: no idea what that means. But Casper's got an award

548
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Speaker 2: winning design. It's continuously developed using feedback from nearly half

549
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Speaker 2: a million customers. They also only sell directly to consumers,

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Speaker 2: which means that they can eliminate the commission driven inflated

551
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Speaker 2: prices that you get with any kind of middleman, and

552
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Speaker 2: buying is easy. You just go online. Oh yeah, they'll

553
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Speaker 2: deliver it to your door in a compact box, whether

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Speaker 2: you live in the US, UK or Canada, free delivery,

555
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Speaker 2: free returns, and you get one hundred night risk free trial.

556
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Speaker 2: So if you're maybe on the brink you think you

557
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Speaker 2: want a new mattress, check it out. You and I

558
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Speaker 2: have them, We love them. Other people have gotten them,

559
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Speaker 2: They've emailed in, they've written in to let us know

560
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: that they like their Casper as well. You can get

561
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Speaker 2: a chance to just try it out before you fully commit.

562
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Speaker 2: We do spend about a third of our lives on

563
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: the mattress Dan, mm hmm, so it's important to have

564
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Speaker 2: when that works for you. Right now, you can get

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Speaker 2: offer code fifty bucks off any mattress purchase Dan. Terms

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Speaker 2: and conditions do apply.

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Speaker 1: Ty, I've always said sleep is the best drug there is.

571
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: Go buy the best drugs.

572
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: Come on, back to college football, let's do it. Let's

573
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: talk about another crush of mine.

574
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: What do you have.

575
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Derwin James right.

576
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: Really going for the big names.

577
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, not a crush until recently, got hurt in two

578
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: games last year, but a beast against the Ryn great

579
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: in the past coverage. Another guy probably a top five

580
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: pick if you he doesn't get hurt again because he's versatile.

581
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: Another Florida State guy. By the way, I love Florida

582
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: State this year, and I hope I don't jinx them. Wow,

583
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: I love their players. But he's versatile. You can't even

584
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: scheme against him because he's just all over and everywhere

585
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: at once. Really good player from the safety position. He's

586
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: an obvious one. Another one that's not so obvious to me.

587
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: Also at the safety position. Have we talked enough about

588
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: Jordan Whitehead on this show.

589
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: Probably not, because Pitt's past defense was it was not great.

590
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: Last year, Jordan Whitehead plays for Pitt. There is some

591
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: talk that they're going to move him from boundary safety

592
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: to field safety, which if you're playing along at home,

593
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,239
Speaker 1: mean a whole lot. I don't know.

594
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: I haven't followed up to see if that's a change

595
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: that's going to stick or not.

596
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: You might need to set a Google alert for boundaries

597
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: high I might have to do that.

598
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, But if it's a thing. If it's not a thing,

599
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean a whole lot. Might mean a little

600
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: less contact for him in the run game, might keep

601
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: him a little safer out there, but he is a

602
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: ferocious defender across the board, Dan, not just regular ferocious.

603
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: I've been working up a little thing here. I'm gonna

604
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: call him. I'm gonna call him for syllable ferocious this season, Dan,

605
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: four syllable ferocious, Yeah, okay, Jordan Whitehead for syllable ferocious

606
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Speaker 2: ed All Liiver, Yeah, that would qualify. There are a

607
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: lot of four syllable ferocious guys out there.

608
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: That's true. Are you gonna say four syllable ferocious every

609
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: single time we talk about Pitt's defense. I don't think

610
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna talking about Pitt's defense that much this year.

611
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: I might just have to get four drum beats, like, okay,

612
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: something that signifies it without actually having to say it.

613
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: It's not the easiest thing in the world to say,

614
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: But if there's anybody in college football this year outside

615
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: of at Oliver, who I think represents this four syllable

616
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: ferocious attitude, it would be Jordan Whitehead. I'm okay about you?

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Speaker 1: Are you were buying low? By the way, If I

618
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: may jump in with your previous crush, I announced a

619
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: crush for Drwin James last year. You did, yeah, and

620
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: I just feel like pod brother to pod brother, I

621
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: would have been not lay off. But if you had

622
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: come to me and said, Dan, listenah, I just I

623
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: can't get Darwin out of my mind. And is it

624
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: cool if I pursue this college football crush. I don't

625
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: want to step on any toes. I know that you

626
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: were sort of on the Derwin James train before I.

627
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,719
Speaker 2: Knew you were into that, but you'd married, so I

628
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: was assuring I had I had the green light. But

629
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Speaker 2: if that's if that's frowned upon, then I don't want

630
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Speaker 2: to create friction in this relationship.

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Speaker 1: I just would have appreciated the courtesy, Tipe, I would

632
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: have appreciated the courtesy.

633
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: I apologize. I apologize, Dan.

634
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go with a group of players, and

635
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to stick with the acc r ACC theme

636
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: is very strong because it's one of the more interesting

637
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: conferences this year. I'm going to go with the entire

638
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: NC State Wolfpack defensive line.

639
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: No count. You didn't play the music, thank you? Oh,

640
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: come on, doesn't count. I would like a courtesy if

641
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: you're not going to play the music, so that we

642
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: can at least give a proper introduction to some of

643
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Speaker 2: these crushes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they're getting good push up front.

645
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Speaker 2: My god, don't disrespect the wolf pack.

646
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Speaker 1: I know that that's on me. That's on me. Uh

647
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Speaker 1: And honestly, the name of the best defensive line in

648
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Speaker 1: Frensis State could not be better because it is Bradley Chubb.

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Speaker 1: It is Bradley Chubb and.

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00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: The billing for a summer loving titled show.

651
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: When you looked it does when you look at what

652
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: acc defenses were able to do on the ground last

653
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: year up front against some very talented offenses. And these

654
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 1: are very talented defenses we're talking about. After Louisville. It

655
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: was not Florida State, it was not Clemson, it was

656
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: not Virginia Tech, it was not Miami. It was NC State,

657
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: who was but a field well away from beating Clemson.

658
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: NC State pretty much all year long was and I'm

659
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: gonna go with the big D and talking about Chubb ti, yeah,

660
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: please dominant, dominant upfront and should be once again. Darien Roseboro,

661
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: Contavia Street, Dave Huxtable. In a short time for NC

662
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: State has built that defensive front into something that's probably

663
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: one of the best five nationally. They're going to be

664
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: so good this year and I can't wait to watch

665
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: NC State, which I don't say that often. Tie, No,

666
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: I do not say it all that often. But this

667
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: group of players is special and I'm very excited.

668
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: I feel like we've been waiting.

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00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: I've got a chub.

670
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: We've been waiting, thank you. We've been waiting to say

671
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 2: that for a while about NC State. We've been waiting

672
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: for it to kind of materialize. And uh, Dave Durren's

673
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: a good coach. He's been a good coach for a while.

674
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: It's just it hasn't been there yet.

675
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: They're in that middle range. NC State in the ACC.

676
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: It's tough. So I'm excited, as we should, we both

677
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: should be. Yeah, I'm going to go with another crush.

678
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: Or whad I did? Two? You did too?

679
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. Do I have to play the music now?

680
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: Well, it's inferred.

681
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna push way out west. We're gonna go to

682
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: Colorado State, which was one of the more entertaining teams

683
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: if remember last November the bowl season. Mike Bobo has

684
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: done a very good job offensively with this team. They

685
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: returned their quarterback Nick Stevens, who's great, but that is

686
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: not my crush. My crush is Michael Gallup, who is

687
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: maybe one of going into the season. I think he

688
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: might be the most unherlded receiver in college football. Is

689
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: probably a top seven to ten receiver when you look

690
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: at what big receivers in the country outside of Za Jones,

691
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: who was great for ECU last year in November to

692
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: close out the season. And this was not against insignificant

693
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: opponents for Colorado State. We're not talking about the bottom

694
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: of the Mountain West San Diego State. Colorado State beat

695
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: him in a shootout. We're talking huge games against the

696
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: best teams. Michael Gallup was ridiculous. Had more yards than

697
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: Dede Westbrook, had more yards than what's his name, Corey

698
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: Davis at Western Michigan. Huge well, I think the second

699
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: or third best November just in terms of period. It's

700
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: just not an exact science, but he was so good

701
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup and should be appreciated this year. I think

702
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: he was a JC transfer for Colorado State. But as

703
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: we are becoming more aware of players at schools of

704
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: all sizes, whether they're you know, Mountain West teams or

705
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: their FCS teams, whatever the case may be, Talent is talents.

706
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: Corey Davis was the first receiver off the board in

707
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: the NFL draft. Michael Gallup is that talent so good.

708
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: So hard to watch? Okay, great?

709
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: So how about that? Ty?

710
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 2: I like it very good. Let's do a couple more here.

711
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: What do you got?

712
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: I got two or three more on my list that

713
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 2: I want to discuss here. Cameron Smith USC. Yeah, Cameron's

714
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: injury plagued, but really good. Injury plagued, really good. It

715
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: just seems like he was involved in every single play

716
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 2: when he was on the field. Just a guy who's

717
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: everywhere a linebacker for USC, younger linebacker. I never felt

718
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: like he got his fair shake because there was so

719
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: much else going on on that USC team just kind

720
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: of faded into the background. But I'm excited to see

721
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: what he brings to the table. Again. I'm excited about

722
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: all these guys I've said about a hundred times now.

723
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 2: I just hope he stays healthy.

724
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right about the attention thing, because Porter Gustin

725
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: had a very nice year last year. Rashim Green, I

726
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: would argue, broke through on the defensive line for USC,

727
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: and certainly having somebody like a Dori Jackson back there,

728
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: Biggie Marshall is the new number one corner for the

729
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: Trojans this year. So hard to stand out on a

730
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: team with so many standouts playing in that a very

731
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: difficult clancy Pendergast defense to play against. But yes, Cam

732
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: Smith in terms of the playmaking ability, we saw it

733
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when he had what two

734
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: or three interceptions in a game, returning him to the

735
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: house A huge talent. I think that's a good pick.

736
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Speaker 2: The other one here that I'll list is what about

737
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: Blake Barnett. O talk about going off the radar. That's difficult.

738
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: It's a difficult one. Not a lot of footage, virtually

739
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: no footage to go on. But Blake Barnett, highly touted quarterback,

740
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: bounced around a little bit in his recruitment, eventually landed

741
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 2: at Alabama I believe won the Elite eleven before going

742
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: on to be the number one overall quarterback in his

743
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: recruiting class. Landed at Alabama and just got logjammed behind

744
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurtz. Cooper Bateman was in the mix. They had

745
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: an embarrassment of riches at the quarterback position in Tuscaloosa.

746
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: Blake Barnett landed on his feet at. Asu bumped over

747
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: to Arizona State, and he's going to get a chance

748
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: now to show what he can do in a wide

749
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: open system under Todd Graham. Lord knows that Asu has

750
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: not had trouble in recent years putting up points and

751
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: showcasing talent at the quarterback position, so you would assume

752
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 2: that they're going to find a way to utilize his

753
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: arm in the best way possible. He will have a

754
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: chance to make an impact this season and show what

755
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 2: he's really worth on the college stage. If he's anywhere

756
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: as good as many believed coming out of high school,

757
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: he should have an opportunity right now to put up

758
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: big numbers. And quite honestly, given where AST was a

759
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: year ago, I think any improvem would be a pretty

760
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 2: big improvement. They've got to get better defensively, but Blake

761
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: Barnett's gonna have a chance to go in there and

762
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: make an impact. So I've had a crush on him

763
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: since high school. And I feel very weird saying that, Wow, okay, dok,

764
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: very weird saying that I've been holding out hope for

765
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: a while and I think this is the year it

766
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: finally materializes.

767
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: This is like you having a crush on somebody that

768
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: you met on like chat roulette. Yeah, you've never really

769
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: hung out with them, you never met them in person,

770
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: you've never really seen like the mid section. You've only

771
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: seen like their shoulders and head, like, wow, she seems great.

772
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: Yep. This is a literal high school sweetheart right here.

773
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 1: You are, you are. It's a it's a hail Mary

774
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: of sorts right now because we don't know anything about

775
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Blake Barnett and his ability and big games. Basically at

776
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: the point.

777
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by the recruiting scouting reports that I read

778
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: when he was recruited and signed on and where he

779
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: had a flirt with with what Oregon and maybe Notre.

780
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: Dame and then committed to Notre Dame.

781
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, landed at Alabama. So uh yeah, let's see what

782
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: he can do. I just want to see what he

783
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: can do. Put him out there.

784
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: This is you getting so excited for a setup for

785
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: a blind date.

786
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: This is this is me jinxing Blake Barnett. Is what

787
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: this is.

788
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: But that's what it sounds like to me. I was surprised.

789
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: Want to hear you say that not much to go on.

790
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: This is me jinxing him I'm gonna I'm gonna go

791
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: with my final crush. If that's okay with you, please okay.

792
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: With that music?

793
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, I'm gonna go with the Kansas player tie.

794
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Kansas player Durance Armstrong, Durance Armstrong.

795
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: I really should have looked at how you pronounced his

796
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: name either way in the highlight I've watched in the

797
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: sort of very short bursts of Kansas football that I've

798
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: watched over the past couple of years, he is a

799
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: complete standout. He is somebody who has been so productive

800
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: and has gotten If you read I think it was

801
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: our friend Bruce Bruce Feldman Fox Sports one doing really

802
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: cool work talking to David Beatty, who was the coach

803
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: that recruited this past year's number one overall pick, Miles

804
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: Garrett Tech's A and M and sees a lot of

805
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: similarities and the production has been very similar. The build

806
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: is very similar. And for Kansas to have a defensive

807
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: end in twenty seventeen who pops in the way that

808
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: Armstrong pops is a testament to both the recruiting and

809
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: development and the fact that Kansas football is coming along.

810
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that tie, because I want a wide

811
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: open Big twelve. That's what I want. I want excitement

812
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: every week. I don't want the separation of just like

813
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. I want every week to be

814
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: at least fun. And Dorance Armstrong is one of those

815
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: guys who I hope, hope as Kansas this has almost

816
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: beaten TCU recently. Is one of those guys to make

817
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: the Big twelve a little bit more fun this year,

818
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: and he has been so good for the Jayhawks. I'm

819
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: excited to see what he could do because he could

820
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: be We're talking about a first round talent in next

821
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: year's draft. So from KENSA, the ability in production is there.

822
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely from Kansas, I'm excited. Awesome Kansas, Colorado State, NC

823
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: State Service Academies. Tie. I look for the corner of

824
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: that classroom.

825
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: I got one. We've given no love to tight ends

826
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: in college football. It's true's talking about my boy, Mike Gaseki.

827
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one.

828
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: Two Penn Staters, two Penn Staters. I'm a little bit

829
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: of a homer. But Mike Kasicki did not get much

830
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: love at all until people started realizing that he was

831
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: having a hell of a season. For Penn State in

832
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. Quasi vertical threat at tight end average something

833
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: like fourteen yards per catch. Big guy caught a lot

834
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: of key passes for Penn State and clutch situations scored.

835
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: I think in each of his last three games something

836
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: like that was really big in the clutch for Trace McSorley.

837
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: A big target is something that McSorley is going to

838
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: need to start the season. Because Chris Godwin went to

839
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: the NFL. He still has receivers left over, but it

840
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: helps to have that safety net in a good tight

841
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 2: end who can catch, who can run the seam, who

842
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: just finds a way to get open. In Mike Kaseki,

843
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: he's another guy who could get drafted provided things continue

844
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: to improve for him. Now as we head into twenty seventeen,

845
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: I think he's on tap for a big season as well.

846
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: They just didn't realize what they had until later in

847
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: the year last year, and Gasicki's a guy who I

848
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: think stands to benefit a great deal from another year

849
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: under Joe.

850
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: Moorehead Hans Giseki, that's right, baby, another real weird term

851
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: that you have decided to roll with, and I appreciate it.

852
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: Got to start getting into mid season for him here Dan.

853
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: I can't wait on that note.

854
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll be back next week talk more college football.

855
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: As Dan mentioned, as we've mentioned here the last couple

856
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: of weeks running. Now, you got a bunch of good

857
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: stuff in the queue, please do go on out to

858
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,319
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859
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860
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,239
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861
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862
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