WEBVTT - #99 - Demrick & Tony Choc 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:12.440 Football season's here, bitches, nah no, nah Hey, it's the 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.960 Blueleg Cap Podcast, Episode number ninety nine, number ninety nine, 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:19.440 number ninety nine. We got a big episode for one 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.800 hundred with Whack one hundred. Hello, that's coming up on Monday. 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.920 But first things First, man, we're talking to the homie Demrick. Demrick' 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.200 dropping a new album with a producer I managed named 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.800 Tony Chalk, comes out on the fifteen called Blessings on 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:35.800 the Way and fire Project, Dope Bars, Dope beats all 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:37.000 of that. So we get to chop it up with 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:38.440 the homie Demrick as we're doing to staying on the 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.440 independence scene for a very long time and in a 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.839 group with Exhibit and be Real called serial Killers. It's 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.160 been you know, him and Dizzy right put out an 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:50.839 album together early last year. And second time Demrick's been 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.800 on the podcast. First time he came on with Dizzy. 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:55.840 This is the first time he's coming on kind of 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.959 solo because Tony Chalk doesn't talk much. So there's that. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.040 Let's get into it. Shout out to our sponsors at 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.080 odd socks, odd socksoficial dot com, keyword bootleg Camp save 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.000 twenty percent off the most comfortable socks in the world. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.640 God damn it, let's get into the interview. Butlet camp 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:16.240 podcast episode number ninety nine, Wait one hundred is with 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:20.040 Whack one hundred, which will be coming out Monday Friday. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.840 I don't know when is it? When is it coming out? 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:29.520 Cook Monday? But ninety nine is here with Demrick Let's 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:35.360 go and Tony Chalk. Sure for people who don't know 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.200 who Demrick is, Demrick is an incredible MC. And for 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.560 people who don't know who Tony Chalk is, Tony Chalk 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:46.160 is just an alright beat maker. Damn and you signed him. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:48.880 You're gonna put that out there about your boy? Man, 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.240 This is you know, I mean, this is yours manager. 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:55.400 This is horrible management. This horrible management. Horrible manager. No, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.240 Tony Chalk is an alien. He's an incredible producer and 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:03.680 uh my favorite Vietnamese person in the world. God bless you, Tony. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:05.880 This guy put me onto the best food I've ever had, 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:07.720 like I've never I never even fucked with fub before 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.799 this guy and he put me on man. Oh yeah yeah. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.800 He invited me over to a Korean barbecue at his house. 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:17.239 M we did get fucked up, man, But listen. So Demrick, 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:19.400 you're here. You guys are putting an album out next week, 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:25.120 September fifteenth, Lessons on the Way. Yeah, how was it working? Like, 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.919 obviously you've done this before with Happa a few times, right, 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.320 So what was it like doing a whole project with 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.360 a producer that wasn't DJ Hoppa. I thought it was dub. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.360 You know, Tony Chak has a bunch of different like 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:39.959 styles of making beats, you know, but he has like 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.359 a signature sound that kind of like flows through all 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:45.040 that production. So the whole thing was like, you know, 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:46.880 kind of flipping on my style, you know, how I 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.200 want to go shit. I could really spit on and 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.359 just kind of like, you know, I like to get 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.800 melodic on some courses, but really I like to go 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.880 heavy with the barwork, right, And so he was like, Okay, 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.720 we're gonna do it, and then you know, he put 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.520 his twist. So some of it's like trap, but like 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.720 with hip hop drum, like you know, he kind of 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.720 like would just come to the table with with song 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:10.600 samples that I never heard before, in tempos that were 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.600 always he likes a lot of up tempo type shit 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.440 in my opinion, and that was kind of different for 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.880 me because I do you know, smoke and chill music. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.080 Sometimes it get retrospective. And so the fact that he 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.079 was keeping the tempos up and shit like that, I 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.080 I just took it as a challenge to do something different, 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.440 because I'm gonna tell you this, bro, it wasn't It's 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.160 not just with DJ Hoppa along the way, Like you know, 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.760 I was dropping full projects with Scoop Deville. I was 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.400 dropping full projects even this year alone. Are you a 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.560 part of the Get Busy Committee? I wasn't a part 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.280 of the Get Busy Committee, but I did a lot 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.760 of record that was Ryu School Andopathy yeah and apathy, 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.480 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah No. I think you know, it's 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:52.200 a missing in hip hop today, the idea of a 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.840 full collaborative project with a producer shout out b real. 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.120 That's what he always told me about Cypracil, you know, 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.200 he said, that's what gave them the sound was work 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.040 with DJ Muggs, and so they was always about like 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.480 finding a producer who you could get in in the 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.600 trenches with. You know, even originally from my group Tangle Thoughts, 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.920 I was rapping Tech would do all the beats when 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:14.360 I originally started rapping. So the way I looked at 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:18.080 it is locking in with somebody and actually having a 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.159 meeting of the minds about the music is how you 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.520 come up with the best shit instead of just and 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.680 it's cohesive exactly, instead of just pulling beats from different 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.320 people this and that day. And you know, Tony Chok 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.760 might call me like, oh shit, we need this kind 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.359 of song, now, we need this, or hey, I was 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.479 doing I flipped this beat this way. Hey, take a 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.479 listen to this now, see what you think. And you know, 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.000 actually being in the trenches making a piece of art 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:43.040 you're gonna present for it's like good to know that 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.000 the people that's doing the music give a fuck just 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.680 as much as you do about the content of the songs. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.760 How many songs did you guys cut all together? Because 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.599 I know there was a bunch of didn't make it right. Yeah, 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.000 we probably cut. So there's there's ten on the hours, 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.040 so I would say we'd cut maybe like seventeen eighteen records. 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.080 You know, I'm to the point now with making music 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.599 where like a lot of times I won't even finish 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.920 your record if I don't feel like, if that energy 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.080 doesn't stick with me, you know, I'll start something, do 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.640 a verse in the chorus, and I might think about 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.880 it the next day bumping it. You know, some people 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:15.720 that I fuck wud let them hear the music and 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.120 just kind of sit with it for a second and say, 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.920 maybe that one's not the one. You know what would 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.800 be because Denmrik, you've done a great job of having 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.680 a great, independent, successful career as a rapper, right. I 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.760 think at the end of the day, most artists who 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.200 are aspiring to do this shit, all they really want 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:34.720 to do is be able to have a good living 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.600 for themselves while while doing what they love. Right. So 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:41.159 you've done a great job of always having music out always, 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.599 you know, being able to you know, do your thing 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.000 while just doing what you love, right. So what what 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.560 would be some advice you would give some up and 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.880 coming artists as far as like going to independent around 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.000 and the things that you've kind of applied to your 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.520 career that have made it sustainable for you to pay 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.839 your bills off this rap shit. Yeah, well, I would 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:03.400 say first, first, like just the typical way that you 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:04.760 you know, because I kind of got on through the 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.240 hype man. Then songwriting and then kind of doing that 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.240 and then Just as soon as I was able to 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.039 just start dropping music and seeing that I could build 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.919 fans through releasing music, I was like, that's all I 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.560 need to do, because I'm not running out of ideas 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:22.320 for versus songs. I'm living every day. I'm gaining more 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.120 perspective as I've grown. And if you've seen anything I've 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.080 people who been listening to me for a while might 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.240 be like, damn, I kind of seen this nigga grow 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.080 up through the music, right because I've been dropping music 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.920 for so long. So getting consistent is a big part 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.919 of it. And like, don't wait necessarily for the perfect 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.560 time to release music, or you know, if you believe 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.320 in the song, release it and don't get too caught 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.320 up in the one record or the one thing. You know, 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.400 this is it. You know, it's not necessarily that way 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.240 for every artist, and along the way, one thing's for sure. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.520 As long as you are being solid and true within 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.440 your music, people are gonna gravitate to it. And as 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.560 you build fans and base, you know, and people that 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.120 fuck with you, you you know, you build power through that. 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.680 And so I just think about focusing on your fans, 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.800 staying consistent. Don't really get caught up, and you know, 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:11.840 there's a lot of money goes into this game, so 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.240 you want to have a big record or things like that. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.400 You know that ship inside, Yeah exactly, it can happen 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:22.160 on some lottery ship like but with the lottery too, 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.840 you know what I'm saying. But if you want to 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.600 just drop some some dope ship and build with people, 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.600 you know, you gotta get in. You gotta get smart 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.560 about how you're gonna do your releases, stay consistent, and 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.760 don't get you know, block out the noise man, was 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.360 that like the goal for you was just having a 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:41.360 core fan base and then consistently dropping music to feed 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.720 them and then watching it kind of just grow. I 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.760 think initially I had I was like, shit, I'm finna 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.600 get it, you know. When I moved out to LA 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.080 It's like, shit, I'm gonna get signing six months, I'm 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.800 finna pop album blow up. You know. But as I 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.760 started to get in the game further, I would actually 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.960 see motherfuckers with one hits, one hit wonder from five 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.960 years ago, one hit wonder from X amount of years ago, 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.280 not looking like they doing so good. And I started 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.080 to see some actual shit that made me be like 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.400 you know, I really only thought about rapping and hustling 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.240 as my job and what I was gonna do with 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.480 my life. So once I started seeing people fall off 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.880 that look so big to me, you know, they pulled 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.040 the curtain back, and I see the way it looked 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.440 behind the curtain wasn't necessarily the way that I thought 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.400 it but thought it was gonna be. But what I 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:32.360 did see is real people who build real fan bases 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.280 didn't really get caught up in the industry focused on 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:39.640 releasing dope shit and them building long lasting careers off 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.920 of their creativity. So I started to think, like, yeah, 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:44.640 I want the big hit, And the whole thing about 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.160 the big hit is that shit is still happening out 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.240 the fucking blood right, you know what I mean. There's 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.040 still the chance. But if you spend all your time 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:55.120 chasing that and you ain't building yourself fountain, you're going 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.400 to be sad at the end because life is hard. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.640 It's one thing I learned for Show. Life's hard the 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.000 whole way. So you know what I'm saying, If you 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:03.839 want to stay on top of this shit, you gotta 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.560 find what works for you and go fucking hard for 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.800 what you want. You have some big homies in the game. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:12.680 You mentioned be Real obviously exhibits somebody you know obviously 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.120 you guys shout out to the Serial Killers projects that 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:19.440 are crazy. What was like something you took from each 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.440 of them as far as helping them on stage? You know, 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:23.840 because I think the first time I ever met you 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.559 was in Idaho, you were it was a Busy Bone 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.959 Be Real tour that was actually the very first tour 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.360 that I ever went on would be Real. Yeah, uh, 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.360 And Busy Bone didn't show up until like midnight and 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.959 then didn't perform because Busy Bone. I had to pick 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.080 Busy Bone up that night in Boise from the airport 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.959 in my ninety two Hondo accord. And when I tell 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:46.199 you that man was on another planet. He was galactic. 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.280 He was shot out Busy Bone. He was. I was like, 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:50.960 I couldn't even I didn't know what the fuck was 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.600 going on. Yeah, crazy, I thought I was. I thought 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.640 that guy was possessed in My friend said like, this 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.200 motherfucker gonna kill me. But no, But like, what are 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.080 the things you learned from be Real from X as 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.880 far as like early on, because you know, obviously Exhibit's 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.760 done a great job of sustaining you know, you know, 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.400 for people who think that exhibit fell off or exhibits 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.880 a boss, he's a businessman. He's fucking pivoted in so 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.079 many different ways in this music industry. Same thing with 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.040 be Real. What are the things that you kind of 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.520 learned from them that right there? That for sure, the 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.760 ability to look at opportunities, look at the landscape, and 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.600 get involved in different things, you know, and not be 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.400 so one track minded. But they told me to don't 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.000 chase sounds, don't try to if you always try to, 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:36.880 you know, be real. It's like the shit come in 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.600 full circle every time around. And why would I now 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.960 believe him? He been in the game since the beginning 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.840 of what you know, since early eighty nine to ninety. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.520 He came in the game and had a hit record, 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.320 so he's seen shit come around a couple of times. 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.840 So if he's telling me, you know, just stick to 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.640 the script of what you fuck with, let the game 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.280 come to you. That was one thing I picked up 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.480 and obviously performing with them lot how to rock a crowd. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.920 I mean this shit like these these ain't club shows 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.480 with two hundred people. So I've been on stage with 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.200 cipers from the eighty thousand. You know, I've been on 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.600 stage with with Exhibit in front of thirty forty thousand, 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.240 you know, big shows and a bunch of nights in 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:19.000 the row too, you know, in two years. And so 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.880 that's kind of the way that I seen was big shows, 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.800 big productions, real performance, being able to rap, perform your lyrics, 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.440 control the crowd, hold it the fuck down. When you're 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.760 on stage, you are actually entertaining people. You got one 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.680 hour if you just fucking dancing to your own songs 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.440 the whole fucking time. You know, that shit gonna get 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.360 old quick when I say when that when that hit 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.000 start dying down and the show stopped and they stopped, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.960 the booking stopped coming, because you didn't really pay attention 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.880 to the performance aspect of the game and everything. So 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:54.240 I learned so much shit from from them that it's 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.319 kind of hard. I was actually watching something and they 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.320 were talking about mentors, and I really am, like, am 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.520 you know, I really have some dope ass mentors in 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.439 my life, you know, be real and Exhibit and that 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.160 I started out from one to rap for those dudes, 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.520 to hype in it, for them to do out the 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.600 songs with them, to doing albums with them and a 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.640 long standing relationship that still goes to this day. So 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.360 that means what does that mean? It means you didn't 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.200 fuck it up, you didn't drop the ball, you didn't 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.120 get too big head, and you stayed solid. And that's 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.760 one of the things. It's hard to get a big 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.120 head when you see people that have done it so 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.280 big for so long and see that they still grinding 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.480 every day, they still going forward every day. But I 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.840 see what it means to the people and what it 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.280 means to them and how they present it. So stay solid, man, 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.120 And I'm lucky that I have mentors like that. Yeah, 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:44.840 I think when you talk about the performance, I think 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:46.960 that one of the things that kind of showed through 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.800 is that versus battle with the Locks and you set. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.360 It's like them dudes was not wrapping over their lyrics. 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.320 They wasn't read rock and there was rocking the crowd 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:00.120 and Dipset didn't take it serious at least anything. I'm 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.439 not saying they didn't take it all the way serious, 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:05.600 but obviously there's a difference between you know, did I 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.880 feel like Dipset's peak happened after the Locks really started 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.240 to come into the game. Even though CAM was around 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.480 during the same time the Locks came in, but like 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.480 the dipset wave really hit, Like I always think of 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.880 like two thousand and one, two thousand and two, and 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.320 you think of the Locks. The Locks was late nineties, 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.680 you know, ninety seven, ninety eight, and just kind of 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.800 like the different eras of like performing like yeah, not 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.240 over your own lyrics, yeah shows. And that's what I 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.000 say when I said they weren't prepared. I wasn't saying 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:35.880 it in the in the scheme of the whole shit, 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.720 but as far as like rapping, yeah, like to be 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.520 able to just throw on a beat like who shot 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.600 you and then Jada know his who shot your freestyle 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.160 from it, and then just and rip it for two 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:51.960 minutes straight exactly antalk shit, be funny, be charismatic, hold 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:56.559 it down and actually delivering full versus all the way through, 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.000 you know. And that's that shit is that it takes time. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.679 You gotta hone your craft on that level to be 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.640 able to do that. You know, it's you started, however 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.040 you started. 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Let's get back 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.360 to the interview Tony Chuck. So, you did a whole 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.800 album with Caski Fine Art, which is fire. Thank you. 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.560 What was the difference between working with Caski and Demrick 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:04.200 on a whole project together talking to the microphone, you 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:09.200 fuck you. The difference is Kathy work way too fast 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:15.280 and I try to keep up with him, but I 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.920 don't know. It's it's a whole different vinument. I've I've 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.200 learned a lot from working with Kathy and and and 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.480 working with Demrick Denver kind of slowed me down a 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.360 little bit and make me stinks more and you know, 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.240 be creative. Right. And then with Kathy he was like, yo, 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.520 go and go, let go pum pump and then then 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:34.360 I go back and fix right. So yeah, so with 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.200 Demrick is like, you take your time, do it right 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:39.600 to first go around and yeah. Yeah, so so I 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:43.080 learned my page for what certain artists and yeah, what 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.000 was your guys is like, Uh, if you had to 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.160 pick a record one record off for Blessings on On 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.240 by the Way, the title tracks my favorite, but uh, 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:54.400 what's your guys's favorite record on that? Yeah? I like 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:58.440 still that's one of my favorite as well. I would, 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.960 but I like the intro I see that Blessings on 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.840 the Way. What I feel like that record is like 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.200 something that's connecting with a lot of people. A lot 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.680 of people are feeling it right now with everything that's 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.000 been going on. Yeah, exactly, It's like it's a song 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.199 that speaks to a lot of people. You know, it 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.679 was written in a in a form that's kind of 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.119 like for everybody, you know. What I mean, Blessings on 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.359 the Way who out here. You know, we're in the 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.520 time of everybody grinding getting to it. Everybody's blessed, everybody's 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.679 going hard for their shit. Everybody is seeing, you know, 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.200 knocking shit off. They list one step at a time. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.960 So that's what it is. Blessings on the Way embodies that. 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.000 So what do you you know with the pandemic? Obviously 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:37.720 I don't even know if we're on the other side 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:39.840 of it yet, but like, I know you depend a 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:41.919 lot on the live shows, right, Like, how did that 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.080 kind of make you rethink things or maybe make you 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:50.000 pivot differently? Twenty I think I'm assuming you were gonna 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:51.560 be on tour. I was going to be on tour 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.680 And what happened is like, because you know, shout out, 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.480 this is because we did we during the pandemic that 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.840 you know when you show right, you had to cancel 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.480 on the ring. Yeah, we canceled one because that whole thing. 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:05.600 They wanted us to make an announcement for people to 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:09.680 get vaccinated or show up with the with the negative tests, 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.720 and now I feel like that's kind of the norm, 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.159 But when they wanted us to say it, it was 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.040 kind of like I don't know if we want to, like, 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.560 you know, really put that out there like that. So yeah, 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.840 we canceled one show, but the other show was good. 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.960 But what I'm saying is basically, during when COVID hit, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.560 it gave me a chance to sit at home and say, hey, 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.240 number one, I'm gonna make more music. I'm gonna drop 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.880 more shit. I'm gonna double down with putting things out 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:35.040 online and things like that and really get projects like 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:38.120 the one with Tony Chak Dune like me and exhibiting 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.719 b Real did another Serial Killers album. Me and Dizzy 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.680 did a blaze with us too during that. Yeah that's 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.879 real me. I dropped a lot of I dropped a 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:51.200 lot of I dropped me and Mike and Key dropped 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:54.439 Championship Rounds and uh so just a lot of music 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.600 that I put out. And I gotta shout out Reazy 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.119 because we dropped the album called Payday. So I dropped 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.840 so much music the last couple of years of this ship. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.280 Because now we're looking at the pandemic. Shit almost been 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.840 around a year and a half year years of March, 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.560 right two years of March, and it's crazy. Uh I was, 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:15.040 And how I know that is because I was on stage, 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.879 me and Berner and Larry June. We did four shows 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.640 right before the COVID. It was they were on Cali right, 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.560 yeah exactly, and me and Berner, we was on stage. 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.520