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We're gonna start off with 28 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: the Suns, who continue to impress with a big win 29 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: on the road over the Cleveland Cavaliers. Kevin Durant still 30 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: red hot, big shock. Devin Booker made his return as well. 31 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: We're that game down from the perspective of both teams. 32 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: After that, the Golden State Warriors, for the first time 33 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: this season, one a basketball game without Steph Curry on 34 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: the road against the Spurs, just after they had lost 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: to the Spurs without Victor wen Benyam at home. A 36 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: majorly important win considering their situation in the standings and 37 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: again how much they've struggled without Steph this year. After 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: that we have not taken an opportunity this year to 39 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: really do a deep dive on Victor wen Benyama's rookie season, 40 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: and so I took a lot of time this morning 41 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: digging into all of the numbers, watching a ton of 42 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: film of all these different play types so that it 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: can give you guys a little scouting report on what 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: Victor wenbin Yama's rookie season has been like. 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So the Cavs really dominated the Suns 64 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: early in this game. Phoenix came out in a really 65 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: deep drop coverage with use of Nurkic, and their guards 66 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: just weren't really sharp chasing over the top of screens. Again, 67 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: when we talk about like the pick and roll coverages 68 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: is like a bracket, that's usually the analogy that I use, 69 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: in the sense that, like your on ball guy is 70 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: the top half of the bracket and the screen defender 71 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: is the bottom half of that bracket. And when you 72 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: do a deep drop coverage, when you pull that side 73 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: of the bracket further back, this side of the bracket 74 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: has to be especially sharp. You have to be chasing 75 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: over the top extremely well in applying a ton of 76 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: back pressure, because if you do, you can force the 77 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: guy to keep driving into where screen defender is. But 78 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: when you're sloppy at the point of attack and you're 79 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: in a deep drop coverage, you're gonna get killed and 80 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Darius Garland absolutely torched them in the first half of 81 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: this game, was killing them with pull up three point shooting. 82 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: And then they brought in Drew you Banks towards the 83 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: end of the first quarter and they started they put 84 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: Bradley Beal on Darius Garland and started blitzing, and at 85 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: that point he was already in rhythm. So he beat 86 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: Bradley Beal by rejecting the screen once again, Like when 87 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: you bring the screen defender way up to the level, 88 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: he has to pick a side of the screen, and 89 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: so it becomes that much more important for the on 90 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 1: ball defender to not get beat the other way, because 91 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: if you get beat the other way, you have no 92 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: backside help. Beal got beat the other way once. There 93 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: was a possession where they hard blitzed and Darius Garland 94 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: just hit like a crazy drifting three along the along 95 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: the right corner because at that point he's just already 96 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: in rhythm. Again, like a lot of times, we overlook 97 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: what happens at the beginning of the game, like it 98 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: doesn't set the tone. If you allow a ballhand to 99 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: get comfortable and confident, then even when you ratchet up 100 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: the defensive intensity, that guy's already feeling good. That guy's 101 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: already in rhythm. It's really hard to slow them down 102 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: at that point. There is another play late first half 103 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: where they lost Garland on a baseline out of bounds 104 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: where U banks even though he was supposed to be 105 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: up at the level blitzing, he was way far back 106 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: in the lane on the baseline at of bounds. They 107 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: just did a quick little dribble handoff with Damian Jones 108 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: in the left corner. Darius Garland got another three, so 109 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: just nowhere near good enough defensively to start this game. 110 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: They found themselves down by nineteen points. But then right 111 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: around that middle of the second quarter, the Sun started 112 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: to get going offensively. They really started to attack George's niang. 113 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: And this is one of those things where having Devin 114 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: Booker back has a bunch of positive effects down the roster. 115 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: And it's not just having the ability to have another 116 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: player the quality of Devin Booker to initiate offense. It 117 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: affects the matchups down the core to it affects your 118 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: off ball spacing for actions that KD and Bradley beal 119 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: run right, Like, We're gonna be talking a lot about 120 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: that over the course of the show, but specifically as 121 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: it pertains to them attacking George's kneeing. When you have 122 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: Devin Booker out there and Devin Booker and Bradley Beal 123 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: are both going to draw a significantly tough perimeter defense 124 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: type of assignment, right in that situation, you just run 125 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 1: out of bodies. And so the Calves ended up opting 126 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: to put George's kneeing on Kevin Durant straight up, and 127 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: so Kad was doing a lot of work on him 128 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: in ISO any screening action where he would get switched, 129 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant would just point at Devin Booker, a point 130 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: at Bradley Beal and be like go, like go take him. 131 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: And they were just literally taking turns, just cooking George's 132 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: kneeing on an island. George Kneeing's credit like he was competing. 133 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: He was really trying. He's overmatched in those specific situations. 134 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: They're also having a lot of success with Spain pick 135 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: and roll. This is an action that the Sons used 136 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: to run a ton back in the Monty Williams e 137 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: era with Chris Paul and it's different players obviously, aside 138 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: from Devin Booker, different coach now but it's more or 139 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: less the same concept. Again, it's just a ball screen, 140 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: but you have a shooter come up to backscreen the Roman, 141 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: the Roman's defender the screen defender as he's relocating to 142 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: the top of the key, which opens up two different things. 143 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: It opens up the lob pass, but it also makes 144 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: it really difficult for the screen defender to get back 145 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: and help protect the rim. So they were having success 146 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: with that as well. And then as they started to 147 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: get going offensively attacking the Aang and scoring in ball screens, 148 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: that triggered their defensive intensity and then from there they 149 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: were able to regain control of the game. After being 150 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: down nineteen, they did a much better job on Darius 151 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: Garland in the second half. They brought use of Nurkic 152 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: up into a high drop instead of a deep drop. 153 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: That's where you're up at the level contesting and then 154 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: just rotating back as best as you can. And Nurkis 155 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: was at like Nurkis every time I watch him. He 156 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: had a a not his best game in this particular matchup, 157 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: and they ended up closing with u Banks instead just 158 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: because of his foot speed and because Nurkis wasn't quite 159 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: as sharp, but Nirkis made some defensive plays in this 160 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: game in his drop coverage, especially at the start of 161 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: the second half. I've been like, honestly, every time I 162 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: watch Nurkics, I'm always impressed by just how much he 163 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: tries to make plays defensively despite his lack of foot speed. 164 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: But bringing him up to the level and then just 165 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: much better on ball defense helped them really cool off 166 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: Darius Garland in the second half of this game. In general, 167 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: their intensity went up to the level where we even 168 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: saw Devin Booker flying around and getting a bunch offensive rebounds. 169 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: In that third quarter. 170 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: He had a possession where he had three offensive rebounds 171 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: on the same possession just shooting in from the wing 172 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: and beating people to the ball ended up hitting like 173 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: a little bank shot on the fourth offensive possession of 174 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: their or fourth shot of that possession. 175 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: He had a four. 176 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: Offensive rebounds in total, had a nice tap out rebound 177 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: later on in the third quarter. So the Suns just 178 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: kind of methodically worked their way back in. They go 179 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: up by nine, but then Cleveland there was again capable 180 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: of real defensive runs as well. They locked in on 181 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: defense and the game just turned into an absolute slog 182 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: on both ends of the floor. Cleveland briefly tied the 183 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: score at one oh four, but then Phoenix got an 184 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: easy layup for Devin Booker out of another Spain pick 185 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: and roll, and they just had They just had Grayson 186 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: Allen come up and backscreen Jared Allen as they were 187 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: running the ball screen and Devin Booker was able to 188 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: kind of kind of gather through the digging down defender 189 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: out of the left corner and finished with a left 190 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: handed layup. Then a couple of possessions later, they had 191 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: a really good defensive possession where they blitzed Darius Garland 192 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: at the top of the key and got into rotation 193 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: as a Garland hit Jared Allen slipping and Jared Allen 194 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: made a kick out to the left corner and it 195 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: was like bang bang balls getting passed around, but every 196 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: Sun was just on a string flying around. They ended 197 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: up forcing a tough skip pass that Royce O'Neil was 198 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: splitting the difference between two offensive players and was able 199 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: to get a steal. They ran out the other way 200 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: and Kevin Durank got a layup. Sons built a little 201 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: bit of a margin again and they were able to 202 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: kind of stiff arm him from there, got a little 203 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: sketchy late Phoenix got a little sloppy in the late 204 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: fourth quarter here a couple of bad turnovers, gave up 205 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: four offensive rebounds in the corner. They were just a quarter. 206 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: They just weren't boxing out. But Grayson Allen got two 207 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: key stops at the end of the game in ISO 208 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: against Darius Garland. The first time he slid his feet 209 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: really well and stopped him in the middle of the floor, 210 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: killed the possession. And then after that there was the 211 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: play where Jared Allen actually had a decent opportunity to 212 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: tie the game with the lob pass. But I want 213 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: to give Grayson Allen some creditors, so I think it 214 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: was one thirteen, one eleven, so it's a two point games. 215 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: Darius Garland had just tried attacking Grayson Allen and couldn't 216 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: beat him. So then on this possession, he's on the 217 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: left wing, Grayson Allen on the island. He's picking on 218 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: him in a switch. They're specifically going after Grayson Allen. 219 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: Here Grayson Allen slides his feet and cuts off like 220 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: four or five different moves from Darius Garland. And then 221 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: finally after like the fifth or sixth move, Garland's able 222 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: to get a angle on Grayson and beat him off 223 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: the dribble. But at that point when he beat him 224 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: off the dribble, he was so sped up by just 225 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: the sheer number of moves he had just made that 226 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: when he threw the lot pass, he threw it too high. 227 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: And it's one of those things like you have your 228 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: jobs in when you switch, when you're the weaker defender 229 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: that someone's targeting. No one's expecting you to suddenly turn 230 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: into Jada McDaniels and get a bunch of stops. Like 231 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: what they're expecting you is just to do the best 232 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: you can. And in that situation against a quick guard 233 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: like Darius Garland, especially one that had been shooting the 234 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: three really well, and you got a factor in client 235 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: at a time and score like in a two point game, 236 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: the last thing you want to do is give up 237 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: a step back three to a guy who's been hitting 238 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: his three all night long, and suddenly you're down by 239 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: one and it's a completely different game. 240 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: Trust your backside, help chase him off the line. 241 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: And he just made him make enough moves, made him 242 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: work hard enough that he sped the play up and 243 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: just a little bit of a difference like that passes 244 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: six inches lower and six inches to the right. Jared 245 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: Allen dunks the ball and it's a tie game. But no, 246 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: it was a little bit too high and a little 247 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: bit to the left Jared Allen. The ball was like 248 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: on the backboard when Jared Allen caught it, and that 249 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: kind of disrupted his catch and he fumbled it away 250 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: and they were able to get a stop and they 251 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: escaped with a. 252 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,359 Speaker 2: Huge road win in Cleveland. 253 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: And again, like, especially after you cut, like you know, 254 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: this is typical, right, especially on the road, especially against 255 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: a team that I don't think Phoenix sees as particularly threatening, 256 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: especially without Donovan Mitchell in the lineup. Like it's just 257 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: kind of trap game, especially after a couple of really 258 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: tough games against the Nuggets and Celtics, right, and you 259 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: get slapped in the face early and you find yourself 260 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: down big. But they methodically executed their way back into 261 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: the game, and then they were able to close the 262 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: game out in the fourth quarter, which obviously has been 263 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: an issue for them at times this season. Major takeaways 264 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: on the Suns front, A good comeback game for Devin Booker, 265 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: twenty seven points and seven assists on fifty percent shooting. 266 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: Really active as an athlete in the second half, not 267 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: just on the glass, but defensively as well. Interesting adjustment 268 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: from Frank Vogel to go with Drew Eubanks late in 269 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: the game so they had more speed on the floor 270 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: to deal with Garland, especially. They did some switching and 271 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: more blitzing at the end of the game with Garland, 272 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: and they just needed more speed in that situation. Kevin 273 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: Durant still on an absolute heater as this fourth straight 274 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: game with at least thirty five points barbecuing George's kneeing 275 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: like we were talking about. But again, one of the 276 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: key things for Phoenix that I've been paying attention to, 277 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: real defensive runs. We've seen that in the Denver matchup. 278 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: We saw that even for stretches in the Celtics game 279 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: again to get back into the game in that third 280 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: quarter run and then held the Cavs to twenty points 281 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter as well. 282 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: Well. 283 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: Just like really impressive defensive ceiling that they're starting to demonstrate, 284 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: even if it's not as consistent as you would like 285 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: it to be. I saw a video from Koc Kevin 286 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: O'Connor from The Ringer. This morning, he was on his 287 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: podcast with Chris Vernon talking about whether or not the 288 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: Suns were the biggest threat to the Nuggets out West, 289 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: and you know, it's interesting. I'm still a little bit 290 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: on the fence because I think the Clippers just have 291 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: better defensive personnel. But the Clippers have been pretty mediocre 292 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: for like a month now, and the Suns are really 293 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: starting to put together some high level basketball. They're starting 294 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: to attach some high level defense to the work that 295 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: they're doing offensively with the three stars, and it's really 296 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: starting to take shape. I'm kind of like, let's just 297 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: put it this way. I still think I leaned slightly 298 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: towards the Clippers, but I'd put the Suns like pretty 299 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: much on that level at this point. Really starting to 300 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: believe in them. I think they have some good matchup 301 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: advantages across the board. Again, specifically like when Kadi is 302 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: making his pull up jump shot, he doesn't really get 303 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: bothered that much by Aaron Gordon. It's just a question 304 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: of whether or not he can make them. And then 305 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: Usuf Nurki, just a big body that can actually bang 306 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: with jokicchen cause them some issues. 307 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: Down there. They do. They are absolutely a threat. 308 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm just not quite sure if I put them on 309 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: the same level as the Clippers at this point on Cleveland, 310 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: Like this is a classic issue I see around the 311 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: league with a lot of these smaller guards, especially ones 312 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: that aren't like absolutely insane athletes. The difference between playing 313 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: against a deep drop coverage versus more aggressive coverages and 314 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: in ISO situations. So like Darius Garland in the first 315 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: half was just absolutely cooking the Suns because they weren't 316 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: very aggressive on the ball. There wasn't a ton of 317 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: ball pressure, and they were in just such a deep 318 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: drop coverage, and so he was able to get going 319 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: with what I call like baked in shots like these 320 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: are shots that are the coverage itself is designed to 321 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: give up. So like in that the point being like 322 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: if you can, if anybody at the like just take 323 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: a random you know, college basketball player is capable of 324 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: hitting a mid range sixteen footer, right like, then if 325 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: this coverage literally concedes that shot, so like anybody can 326 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: make that shot. Now the best players in the world 327 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: can make it at a much higher rate, right And 328 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: Garland is absolutely barbecuing it. But there's a difference between 329 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: the shot that is baked into the coverage versus what 330 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: happens when the intensity picks up and suddenly there are 331 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: no baked in shots and it's shots that you have 332 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: to create yourself. And like, don't get me wrong, Garland 333 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: still had some success getting downhill when they started bringing 334 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: aggressive coverages and hitting the slipper, and that's still creating 335 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: an advantage in those situations. But when it comes to 336 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: scoring the basketball, Darius Garland is definitely one of those 337 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: guys that kind of needs some of the shots that 338 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: are baked into the coverage. He's not a guy that, 339 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: like against really elite locked in physical defense, can consistently 340 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: just generate his own shot on an island. And I 341 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: thought that those last two possessions against Grayson Allen and 342 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: just how difficult it was for Darius Garland to break free, 343 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: I thought was a strong indicator of that because Grayson 344 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: Allen at the guard position is very much an average 345 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: defensive player, right. Just something to keep in mind, And honestly, 346 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: that's why you need a guy like Donovan Mitchell. And 347 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: I've actually come around in a lot of ways on 348 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: the Mitchell Garland back court in the sense that like, 349 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: when Donovan Mitchell is defending the way that he's defended 350 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: this season and really leveraging his athletic gifts, that's where 351 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: it starts to look more like that skill guard athlete 352 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: guard type of mold. It's when Donovan Mitchell leans into 353 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,359 Speaker 1: the skill guard stuff and doesn't compete as an athlete 354 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: that that back court becomes untenable. So like, I actually 355 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: believe more in the Garland Mitchell back court now than 356 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: I used to, just because of Donovan Mitchell's leap that 357 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: he's taken just in the dirty work areas of the 358 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: game this year. But I did think that game last 359 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: night was just an indicator of the ceiling, the certain 360 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: ceiling that Darius Garland has as a score, which depends 361 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: so much on what the defensive coverages are. 362 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: Obviously, no, Evan. 363 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: Mobley just means a lot of george' kneeing, and George 364 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: Knieing was just having one of those games where he 365 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: wasn't hitting shots. And if he's not hitting shots and 366 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: he's such an easy target on the defensive end of 367 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: the floor, things can fall apart pretty quickly. But even 368 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: despite all of that, like Jared Allen Better passed from 369 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: Darius Garland on that last possession and Allen it catches 370 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: the ball cleanly. It's it's a one to thirteen to 371 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: one to thirteen game. And the real reason why they 372 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: had that chance is because they are still capable of 373 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: these crazy defensive runs like they went on in the 374 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: late third quarter into the fourth quarter. And that again 375 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: is like defense just will just keep you in basketball games. 376 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: And again like that, that's I think when you factor 377 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: in the improvement that Donovan Mitchell has made and just 378 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: the improvement in terms of the overall amount offensive skill 379 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: on the floor, if they can compete defensively well enough 380 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: to keep these games close as long as Donovan Mitchell's 381 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: hitting shots, so they have a chance to beat anybody. 382 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: It's just a question of whether or not he can 383 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: kind of meet other stars at that level as a 384 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: shot maker. All Right, moving on to our next segment, 385 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna be breaking down the Golden State Warriors on 386 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: the road, getting their first win of the season without 387 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: Steph Curry in the lineup another defensive run, the Spurs 388 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: had sixty eight points with ten minutes to go in 389 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: the third quarter. They led by ten, sixty eight to 390 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: fifty eight. And the Spurs had seventy two points with 391 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: a little over three three minutes left in the third quarter, 392 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: so they held him to just four points over a 393 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: seven minute span. At that point, the Warriors were at 394 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: fourteen eighty six to seventy two, so twenty eight to 395 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: four run in about seven minutes of basketball. They logged 396 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: a defensive rating of seventy eight point three in that 397 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: quarter on tape. Just really good game plan, discipline, lots 398 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: of lineups because it spans the middle of the third quarter, 399 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: multiple lineups for both teams were on the floor during 400 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: that stretch. But the gist of it was any screening 401 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: action that involved Draymond Green, Andrew Wiggins and Jonathan Kminga 402 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: was a switch. They were willing to switch Wiggins and 403 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: Kminga on to Victor wmen Yama in those screening actions 404 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: would shut those particular actions down. Obviously, they had some 405 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: issues like Victor wemen Yama had a drop step dunk 406 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: on Jonathan Kamena in a switch where he just didn't 407 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: really hold his ground well enough. But then when the 408 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: guards were on the ball, So whether it's Pazamski or 409 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: Gary Payton, they were just ducking under picks on Trey Jones, 410 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: so they would live with pull up threes on Trey Jones, 411 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: and then they were chasing like crazy on Devin Vessel, 412 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: and both guys were awesome in the stretch. Both Brandon 413 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: Pazemski and Gary Payton just really controlled that perimeter defense stretch. 414 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: After the middle portion of the fourth quarter when the 415 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: guards checked in, I clipped a specific possession of Gary 416 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: Payton the second just showing him chasing around on Devin Vessel. 417 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things that Gary Payton 418 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: does super well that's always impressed me is he's so 419 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: incredibly athletic that he's capable of gambling or taking risks, 420 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: jumping into passing lanes, or reaching and getting off a balance, 421 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: but still has the speed to recover. And in this 422 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: specific play that I clip that you'll find on my 423 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: Twitter feed at underscore jsonlt, there's an example of Gary 424 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: Payton lunging on one side of the screen and then 425 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: chasing over the top and reaching in aggressively and yet 426 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: in both situations having the speed to recover. So when 427 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: Devin Vessell got downhill and got to like a little 428 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: pull up fifteen foot or along the left base, line. 429 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: He actually got a great contest on it, just because 430 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: he has the crazy speed to be able to recover 431 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: after being aggressive, and that I think that sort of thing, well, 432 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: it's super frustrating for offensive players because like you have 433 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: these counter move design like when a guy makes an 434 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: aggressive move, I whip it behind my back this way 435 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: and I have an angle. But it's like against the 436 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: best athletes in the world, they can just recover and 437 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: it's like, shit, I did everything right on that possession, 438 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: and he's still right in my face. 439 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: Right. 440 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: And then Tray Jackson Davis was just really a force 441 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: around the rim defensively in the second half of this game. 442 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: Actually had a possession in the fourth quarter where he 443 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: blocked Trey Jones and Zach Collins back to back on 444 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: the same possession. Weirdly enough, didn't get credited for a 445 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: block in the box score, which I thought was really interesting. 446 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: And then on the offensive end of the four, Clay 447 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: Thompson and Chris Paul did a really nice job running 448 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: the offense. Clay was able to hit some jumpers against 449 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: the Spurs and their drop coverage, and you know some 450 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: of those classic like come off of a dribble hand 451 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: off the guy's kind of in a trail position and 452 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: just hits him with a hard like right shoulder step back, 453 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: moving to his left and knock it down like that 454 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Chris has his usual Chris and his 455 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: like Chris and Tray Jackson Davis pick and roll chemistry 456 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: thing just on level ten throughout this entire game, hit 457 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: him for lobs and finishes around there. Trace had a 458 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: ridiculous right handed finish around zat Collins where he jumped 459 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: into him and then like scooped around with his offhand 460 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: to finish. But just a ridiculous play. We haven't even 461 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: got to it yet. But like at the end of 462 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: the game when Victor Wembinyama reached to his right hand 463 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: side and he spun off of him, just one of 464 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: the most ridiculous dunks you'll ever see, as he palmed 465 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: it as best as he could have, just threw it 466 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: over the top of the rim into Victor wemen Yama. 467 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: That's a highlight that Trace will be looking at for 468 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: the rest of his life, I'm sure, especially when Victor's 469 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: running rough shot over the rest of the league in 470 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: five years. I'm sure that'll be a fun one for 471 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: him to look back at but Chris had his mid 472 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: range jump shot going as well. He hit six shots 473 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: and the mid range in this game, which obviously is 474 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: such an important part of Chris being able to navigate 475 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: and pick and roll situations. He has to be a 476 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: threat to score in order to bring the screen defender 477 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: up enough to open up those roleman opportunities. And that's 478 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: what just kind of brings that two man game to fruition, 479 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: is like Chris's willingness and ability to knock down those 480 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: mid range jump shots and then trace after the screen, 481 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: rolling hard to the rim and bringing that vertical spacing. 482 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins had sixteen points on eight shots. He had 483 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: a massive three in the third quarter, kind of moving 484 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: to his right. He's really bringing confidence to the three 485 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: point stroke now that we haven't seen really since the 486 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: playoffs in twenty twenty two, shooting forty nine percent from 487 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: three on three point three attempts per game in his 488 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: last eighteen games, averaging fourteen points and shooting fifty four 489 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: percent from the field overall. So Andrew Wiggins really encouraging 490 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: stretch from him as of late. And johnathankaminga twenty two 491 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: points the usual getting out transition in a couple ISO 492 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: jumpers attacking in face up situations. Big win for the Warriors. 493 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: This was a tough one because again the Spurs have 494 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: been sneaky, tough to play for a while now. As 495 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: the Warriors know very well. They just lost to him 496 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: at home without Victor weman Yama, and so adding Wemby 497 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: on the road really nice bounce back win, a very 498 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: important one for them in the standings as well. So 499 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: obviously we have not taken the time yet this season. 500 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: We've had brief conversations about Wemby, but we haven't really 501 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: talked about his season in totality, and I haven't because 502 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: how bad the Spurs have been. I haven't really taken 503 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: the time to dig into Victor wemben Yama and the 504 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: tape and the numbers this year. So that's what I 505 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: wanted to do here for a few minutes, is just 506 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: kind of do like a deep dive on Victor wemben 507 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: Yama's rookie season. So for the season, averaging twenty one points, 508 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: ten rebounds and three assists, one point three steals, three 509 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: point four blocks on fifty seven percent tru shooting, obviously awesome, 510 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: But since December twenty eighth, Victor took a leap in 511 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: the middle of the season, which is something we'll talk 512 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: about in a little bit. But since December twenty eighth, 513 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: so his last thirty one games, twenty three points per game, 514 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: ten rebounds and four assists, one point two steals with 515 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: three point seven blocks per game, fifty percent from the field, 516 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: thirty eight percent from three to eighty two percent from 517 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: the line, so sixty point four percent for shooting. So, 518 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: before we go any further, a rookie averaging twenty three 519 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: to ten to four with five stocks per game on 520 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 1: over sixty percent for shooting is completely insane, especially when 521 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: you factor in that like most rookies around this time 522 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: of year, start to hit a wall, they start to 523 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: struggle with fatigue because the length of the season is 524 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: just different than what they've dealt with and when they 525 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: were younger. Although overseas, Victor obviously is had a different 526 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: experience than most college players, so Victor is probably more 527 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: capable of handling the physical nature of an eighty two 528 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: game season, but still it's an adjustment. It's different than 529 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: what he was dealing with, but for all rookies, that's 530 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: an adjustment, right, We're seeing Brandon Bazemski run into this 531 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: a little bit with the Warriors, right. Also, teams have 532 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: started to put together a good amount of film. So 533 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: like again, when you look at scouting once you have 534 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: like fifty games worth a sample, these scouting departments, they 535 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: have really good data to look at and they can 536 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: really find out like, Okay, this particular action, if we 537 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: guard it like this, he struggles in ISO. If we 538 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: sit on this hand and we prepare for this counter move, 539 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: we can handle it. Right, Like, there are a lot 540 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: of ways that teams just get better at scouting rookies 541 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: as more film becomes available, and so so many rookies 542 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: run into a wall at this point in the year, 543 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: and instead Victor women Yabas is going up a level. 544 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: And again, twenty three ten four with five stocks and 545 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: over sixty percent shooting is just completely insane for a rookie, 546 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: regardless of the circumstances. So looking into play type data, 547 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: it's having a tough spot up season zero point seven 548 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: to seven points per possession, which is really bad. There 549 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: are one hundred and forty three players in the NBA 550 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: that have logged at least one hundred and fifty spot 551 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: up possessions and that rakes one fortieth. So he's been 552 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: one of the worst spot up players in the league 553 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: combination of a couple of things. He's really struggling in 554 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: catch and shoot situations. He's been a good jump shooter, 555 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: decent jump shooter in pull up situations, but he's been 556 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: really bad off the catch. That's a concept that we're 557 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: going to dive into a little bit more when we 558 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: get to the off the dribble shooting, but also just 559 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: when he tax close outs. He has a tendency to 560 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: drive into traffic, and tall guys have issues dribbling the 561 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: basketball in general when it comes into traffic. By the way, 562 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: this is something that happens with Kevin Durant, which is 563 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: why he turns the ball over most more than most 564 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: of his peers that are perimeter ball handlers. It's because 565 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: when you're just dribbling at that high off the ground, 566 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: there's just a larger distance for devenders to get involved 567 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: with disrupting the basketball, right, and so you have to 568 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: be really careful as a tall player about when and 569 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: where you drive the basketball, and so just struggle and shoot, 570 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: catch and shoot and struggle struggling to maintain control of 571 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: the basketball when he drives into traffic. Those are the 572 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: main things that are hurting him in spot up situations. 573 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: He's been very good in ball screens as the screener. 574 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: He's shooting fifty nine percent in effective field goal percentage 575 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: when he pops or rolls, which is awesome. He's in 576 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: the sixtieth percentile overall in points per possession on role 577 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: man possessions, which especially when you factor in the spacing 578 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: that he's around, really impressive. There's a lot of guys 579 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: on the spurs that teams just don't need a guard 580 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: at the three point line. They're conceding threes to Keldon Johnson, 581 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: they're ducking under picks on Trey Jones. No one's guarding 582 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: Jeremy Soschein out there. Like there's just a lot of 583 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: like ability to kind of pack the pain on him, 584 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: which can cost some issues for any basketball player, let 585 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: alone a rookie. On the ball, he's run one hundred 586 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: and eighty three inverted ball screens, resulting in zero point 587 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: eighty six points per possession including passes. Passes out of 588 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: those ball screens almost like almost about two thirds of 589 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: the time. A lot of turnovers in those situations, he 590 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: turns it over about thirty percent of the time that 591 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: he passes out of ball screens. Really, he just makes 592 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 1: really aggressive passes to the slipper, So like when he 593 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: sets those inverted ball screens, he's getting pretty aggressive coverages 594 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: and those guards are slipping out of it, and like 595 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: they get a lot of for the record, they get 596 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: a lot of great stuff out of this too, where 597 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: like he'll throw the pocket pass and the guard will 598 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: have like a good angle and get into the paint 599 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: and finish. They had a similar play in the second 600 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: half against the Warriors last night. I want to say 601 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: it was Malchi Branham that slipped, but I can't remember exactly, 602 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: but they hit a little pocket pass, get a lay up. 603 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 2: In the middle of the lane. 604 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: But he just he kind of throws it every time, 605 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: regardless of whether or not it's open. So that's just 606 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: a rookie thing. Like in time, he'll just get better 607 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: about being more picky about when he makes that pass 608 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: because sometimes it's not open right, or sometimes it's better 609 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: to throw the swing pass and let the swing pass 610 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: guy make the pass if he has a better angle right, 611 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 1: and then he's personally shooting just forty one percent out 612 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: of ball screens as the handler, similar kind of stuff 613 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: that we were talking about earlier. He's actually been pretty 614 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: good shooting pull up threes in that situation, but when 615 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: he puts on the ball on the floor and tries 616 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: to drive again, when he gets into traffic, he can 617 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: have some issues. It's always been awesome ninety four points 618 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: on eighty eight ISOs, including passes, really deadly face up jumper. 619 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: It's something that he's been shooting really well all season. 620 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: It's funny certain shot types he's been shooting really well. 621 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: He's been really good in face up jumpers, pretty average 622 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: and dribble jumpers, and then bad and catching shoot jumpers. 623 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: Now face up. 624 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: Jumpers are like I catch, I turn in my face, 625 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: maybe I rise up if I have space, or maybe 626 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 1: I jab step and then I rise up. That's what 627 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: I qualify as a face up jumper. On Synergy they 628 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: classify them as early jumpers, but it more or less 629 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: means the same thing. But he's got in the ISO 630 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: situations a lot of face up jumpers, good step back, 631 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: going both directions. When he drives, he likes to when 632 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: he gets cut off moving towards his right, he likes 633 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: to step back going right or spin back towards his 634 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: left hand side, and sometimes when he gets into that spin, 635 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: he can get into some trouble where he'll turn the 636 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: basketball over. But overall, he's been really good in ISOs 637 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: Okay in the post two hundred and fifty six possessions 638 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty one points at zero point ninety 639 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: four points per possession. That ranks ninth out of the 640 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: ten guys in the league that are high volume post 641 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: up players over two hundred and fifty possessions. Once again, 642 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: surrounding talent and shooting are the important like kind of 643 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: context there. He's just he's not in a situation where 644 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: guys are gonna make team make him pay consistently, make 645 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: teams pay consistently for throwing second defenders at him. At 646 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: his best in the post, it's when he's quick and decisive, 647 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: like catching second defender, quick kickout pass, just like really 648 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: fast decision making, and then also quick aggressive moves towards 649 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: the rim. It doesn't really need to shoot a hook shot, thankfully, 650 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,719 Speaker 1: just because how tall he is, and he'll just make 651 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: like an aggressive move towards the middle and like almost 652 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: shoot like a sliding scoop shot with his left hand 653 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: into the lane or a sliding scoop shot with his 654 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: right hand in the lane. 655 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: Like, he'll just catch him basically. 656 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: Pivot over that shoulder right away, even if the defender 657 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: bumps him and kind of flattens out the drive, as 658 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: long as he's close enough to the basket. 659 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: And the Spurs do a lot of smart stuff. 660 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: They run him off of a ton of wedge screens 661 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: where like they'll start him at the elbow and like 662 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: screen have him flash to the post to try to 663 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: get him some deeper position, and like again just quickly 664 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: pivoting towards the middle over whatever shoulder that is in 665 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: going to that scoop shot in a lane. He'll get 666 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of good stuff out of that. Again, when 667 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: he goes quick, that's when he's best as a tendency. 668 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes to settle for unnecessary tough like turnaround jump shots 669 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: off the glass and stuff like that, that's usually where 670 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: he'll have misses in those situations. Had a really good 671 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: post up sequence against Indiana late in a win last week. 672 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: It was one o three to one oh two with 673 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: four minutes left, the Spurs were up. He had an 674 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: aggressive baseline move on Siakam, just one of those quick 675 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: attacks to get a and one. And then he had 676 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: an aggressive move on Turner on the opposite block where 677 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: he drew foul. Now on the next possession, the hard 678 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: double teamed him and he hit Jeremy Socian on a 679 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,239 Speaker 1: cup on a cut and he made a layup at 680 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: the basket. So like spamming an action to close a 681 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: game against a really good team. And again, Indiana's defense 682 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: has not been very good since Siakam came over, but 683 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: that is in terms of personnel, a good defensive front line, 684 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: and Miles Turner and Pascal Siakam and Wenby was just 685 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: going right through him like tissue paper. In terms of 686 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: shot types, he's been a bad jump shooter zero point 687 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: eighty eight points per shot overall. That's a twenty six 688 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: percentile mark for jump shooting, catch and shoot zero point 689 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: eight two points per shot overall, thirty percent field goals, 690 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: forty one percent when you weaight it for threes, when 691 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: he's guarded twenty eight percent, thirty eight percent weighted for threes, 692 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: and when he's unguarded thirty two percent, forty six percent 693 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: weighted for threes. So just all really bad and all 694 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: areas where he'll need to improve in the long run. 695 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: But his pull up jump shot has been really, really 696 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: deadly this year. He's got thirty five point four percent 697 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: field goal percentage on pull up jump shots forty nine 698 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: percent weighted for threes, so right around a point per 699 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: possession to give you an idea, he's been about as 700 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: effective hitting pull up jump shots as Jason Tatum, which 701 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: again as a rookie, is a really really impressive mark. 702 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: But again it's the face up jumpers where he's been best, 703 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: shooting forty one percent overall on face up jump shots 704 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: fifty four percent weighted for threes. So question is, why 705 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: is it that Victor woman Yama has struggled so much 706 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: in catch and shoot situations but has been pretty good 707 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: and pull up and face up situations. To me, it's 708 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: all about rhythm and Wemby as a tendency to get 709 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: a little bit loose with his jump shot form in 710 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: the sense that like he's relying a lot on just 711 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: the release at the end, his base gets a little 712 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: funky on these, where like he'll he's drifting a lot 713 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: on his like off the dribble shots, he'll drift to 714 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: the left or drift to the right. There was a 715 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: flashing like kind of like a movement shooter type of 716 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: shot he took against the Warriors in the second half 717 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: last night where Draymond was guarding him and he was 718 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: under the basket, and he flashed up to the left 719 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: wing and he caught and like quick turn and pivot 720 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: and shot literally looked like a movement shooter, but on 721 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: it like he randomly jumped like forward into the left 722 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: quite a bit, even though he was unguarded, he jumped 723 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: like forward to the Draymond got a late contest on it, 724 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: but he jumped like forward into the left a little bit. 725 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: And it's just like different than what he does on 726 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of other possessions. And so one of the 727 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: and by the way, this is super typical for young 728 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: basketball players, and like one of the things that that 729 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: he'll just have to you're out in the long run, 730 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: is getting super consistent with his form. And like to me, 731 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: you actually want to build it out out of catch 732 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: and shoot, So like you want to have like this 733 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: perfect muscle memory from the base up in your catch 734 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: and shoot shots. 735 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: And once you. 736 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: Nail that down, you want your your off the dribble 737 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: shots to more or less resemble that in the sense that, like, 738 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: obviously there's going to be some drifting, but when you 739 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: get enough separation to go straight up and down, go 740 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: straight up and down when you're drifting, get great lift 741 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: and at least from the waist up, have the exact 742 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: same type of release and motion as you do when 743 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: you're shooting catch and shoot jump shots. Once you can 744 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: connect those two, then you'll see the numbers more consistent 745 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: across the board. But right now, it's like when he's 746 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: in a rhythm because he's touching the basketball, he shoots well, 747 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: but when he has to catch and shoot not so well. 748 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: When he can actually build out his catch and shoot 749 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: as the foundation of his jump shot and then connect 750 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: that to his off the dribble shooting, that's when I 751 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: think we'll see some real shooting consistency from him. But 752 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: the touch is there. I have no doubt that in 753 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: the long run he's going to be a great shooter. 754 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: Thirty five percent on floaters, only ten makes on the season, though, 755 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: so it's not a shot he takes a lot. Only 756 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: forty three percent on hooks sixteen makes, though on the 757 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: entire season. Like we talked about earlier, doesn't really need 758 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: it because he's so damn tall. So it's more like he'll, 759 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: like most players while on the black like drop step 760 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: and then shoot like a little half hook over their 761 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: left shoulder. Wemby can go out to the side and 762 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: almost like take a scoop shot, so like it's not 763 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 1: really relevant to him just because it's not a shot 764 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: he needs to take. At the RIM, one hundred and 765 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: thirty one dunks. That's tied for the sixth most in 766 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: the NBA. Here's a little trivia. You guys want to 767 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: guess who the six players are that are either tied 768 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: or above him number six, Nick Claxton, number five, Jarrett 769 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: Allen number four, Aaron Gordon number three, Anthony Davis number two, 770 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert number one, drum Roll Joannis, and Tana Kumbo. 771 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: Big shot, I know, but still Victor Wiman yamun limited minutes, 772 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: that's sixth in the most dunks in the NBA. Only 773 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: fifty four percent on layups, obviously a big area of 774 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: improvement for him. Gets knocked off of his base relatively easily, 775 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: and it has some can occasionally have some bad misses 776 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: around the rim, but that again is just something I 777 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: think it comes down to both driving into traffic and 778 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: just being better about his drive pass decisions, and then too, 779 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: just putting on a little bit more bulk. On the 780 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: defensive end, He's already one of the best defensive players 781 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: in the world. He currently has the second best odds 782 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: on DraftKings in the league to win Defensive Player of 783 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 1: the Year. Leads the league in blocks in limited minutes. 784 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, if you extrapolated out to 785 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: a thirty six minute shift, he's averaging four point three 786 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: blocks for thirty six minutes, fourth in deflection rate among 787 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: players who've played at least fifteen hundred minutes this season, 788 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: So just wreaking havoc on the defensive end of the floor. 789 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: He has this tendency, this ability that most players don't 790 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: have to hang back and make it look like there's 791 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: an opening, but then just take a simple drop step 792 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 1: in reach and be able to cover like fifteen feet 793 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: of space, and it just makes it so that he 794 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: can really bait players into situations that they don't want 795 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: to get into. Most of the I shouldn't say most, 796 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: but a good percentage of the blocks that victor women 797 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: Yama women Yama have. They're not like a players or 798 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: guys are challenging him. They're plays where they don't even 799 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: think he's around, and then suddenly he's just there. And 800 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: that's just the advantage of his ability to kind of 801 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: disguise whether or not he's coming in help or not. 802 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: So in summary, he's already impacting winning at a high level. 803 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: The Spurs are six point two points better per one 804 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: hundred possessions when he's on the court versus when he's off. 805 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: He's already a top twenty five player in the league 806 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: in my opinion, and he can still get so, so, 807 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: so much better on both ends of the floor. Some 808 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: specifics again, improving as a shooter in every phase of 809 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: the game, which we talked about already, so I won't 810 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: get into again limiting turnovers, specifically being more careful that 811 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: when he tries to thread the needle and pick and 812 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: roll passing situations, just being more deliberate. Again, if it's 813 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: not open, you can literally just swing the pass, get 814 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: it back and run another one, like you don't need 815 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: to force it in that specific action. Dribbling into traffic 816 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: as well, just when he's attacking closeouts or driving in 817 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: ball screens or ISO situations, just being more picky about 818 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: when he exposes the basketball. And then lastly, like all 819 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: young players, just kind of shot selection stuff, so like 820 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: finding the right place for tough shot making and then 821 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: maximizing the capitalizing on the low hanging fruit. Right like 822 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: what we talk about Jokic all the time, Like the 823 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: dude is the best in the league at grabbing all 824 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: of the low hanging fruit on offense. And Victor has 825 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: that type of potential to be a guy who gets 826 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five points a game just on the easy 827 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: stuff that's sitting there right in front of him, and 828 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: so then the tough shot making stuff can push him 829 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: over the top. Now, right now, despite all of these 830 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 1: classic rookie issues, he's averaging twenty six points and thirteen 831 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: rebounds per thirty six minutes right now for the season, 832 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: and he's still adjusting to the league. So like, there's 833 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: no reason at all why we couldn't see a five 834 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 1: year run in Victor women Ya's Victor wemen Yama's prime 835 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: where he averages like thirty two, fifteen and seven with 836 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 1: like six stocks per game, Like that's on the table 837 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: for him, that's not even a long shot that almost 838 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: feels like a certainty, Like, right now, he's getting you 839 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 1: twenty six and thirteen per thirty as a rookie. That's 840 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: for the season, not including this latest leap that he's 841 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: been on. There's no reason at all to think that 842 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: it's some improved shooting bumping his minutes up, just overall 843 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: better decision making in veteran experience, that he can't be 844 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: up around thirty two points per game. He's already grabbing 845 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: thirteen rebounds per game, that's not a big leap to get. 846 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 2: Up to fifteen. 847 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 1: And he's averaging four assists per game over this last 848 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: thirty one game stretch, and he's still learning how to 849 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: read the NBA floor and so, and he's playing around 850 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: guys that struggle to finish plays around him. So it's 851 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: just there's no reason at all to think that he 852 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: can't get up to that type of level. Thirty two 853 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: to fifteen and seven, I think is like an interesting 854 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: kind of goal for Victor to hit during his prime. 855 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: And then again, the last thing I'll say about Victor 856 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: took a big leap in the middle of the season, 857 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: when most rookies go down a level that to me, 858 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: is just a huge indicator of his work ethic and 859 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: his competitiveness, and that to me just that's like the 860 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: swing factor in what if you look at like Victor's 861 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: career as a spectrum of results, meaning like the best 862 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 1: possible version of his career and the worst possible version 863 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: of his career based on his talent, it's his competitiveness 864 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: and work ethic, along with some injury luck that will 865 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: determine where he lands on that scale. Injury lucks outside 866 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: of your control. But Victor, for the record, works extremely 867 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: hard on pliability and flexibility and all that kind of stuff, 868 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: and so he's doing everything he can on his end 869 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: to avoid injuries. Obviously, the Spurs have been really careful 870 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: with his minutes and stuff as well, so that you 871 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: do what you can to control that. But his competitiveness 872 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: and his work ethic I think are going to help 873 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: him hit the high end of that spectrum. Sky's the 874 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: limit for Victor, And it was really fun diving into 875 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: his film this morning. All right, let's get to the mailbag. 876 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: Since the twenties twenty one season, ad bulked up a 877 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: bit to better center position, what are the pros and 878 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: cons of this bigger build and playing center overall. So 879 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: I think it's the pros are in theory it should 880 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: help him bang with other big centers underneath the basket, 881 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: and he for the record, he does do better than 882 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 1: he used to in that regard, and there are guys 883 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: that he can bully now that he didn't used to 884 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: be able to buoy. 885 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 2: There's been some upside there. 886 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 1: Also, I think it's probably helped him a little bit 887 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: with his injury prevention, just by virtue of him just 888 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: being a little bit more sturdy in his joints and 889 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: stuff like that. That said, like I think the cons 890 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 1: of outweighed the pros on that front, Like his foot 891 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: speed is substantially lower than it was before he bulked up. 892 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: And then also I really think it's led to some 893 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: stiffness in his joints in the sense that he hasn't 894 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: been as fluid as a score and you know, for 895 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: whatever that's worth. Like I tend to think, like lean 896 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: into your advantage, like don't play big guy basketball when 897 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: you're not as good at playing big guy basketball as 898 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: Nukolea Yokich, right, Like, don't you're not good Like you're 899 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: still running into the zubatches and the some bonuses and 900 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: the Nurkices and the Yokitches of the world and struggling, 901 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: and that's the only matchup where that size really makes 902 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: that much of a difference. So if it were up 903 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 1: to me, I would have leaned more into ads speed 904 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 1: and been like, yeah, there are gonna be some matchups 905 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: before we struggle, because you know, Ad is getting buried. 906 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: But like, as long as we're playing hard around him 907 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: and we have advantage of his ability to cover ground 908 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: in rotation, there's gonna be so much more good than 909 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: bad that comes from that. Also, I just think the 910 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: Lakers would have been in a much better position offensive 911 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: if they had the Anthony Davis from the bubble that 912 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: was capable of being really a high level perimeter score 913 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: and he's just gone down a massive level in that department, 914 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: which I do think is connected to some of his strength. 915 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: So again, there are pros that have come with it, 916 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: and I understand why, like conceptually why he did it, 917 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: but personally, if I was Anthony Davis, I would have 918 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 1: lingered more around the body type he was in twenty twenty. Hey, Jason, 919 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 1: I love this channel and I think you provide desperately 920 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: needed insightful content, especially for a casual viewer, and keep 921 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: up the great work. Thank you for the kind words 922 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: and for supporting the show. I'm not a guy who 923 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: generally likes plug and play players and certain into certain 924 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: eras and teams, but I cannot help but wonder what 925 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: if someone like Demarta Rosen or Paul George was on 926 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: AI's Final Team Finals Team. I think the type of 927 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: player that would greatly benefit the chances of that series 928 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: being at least more competitive. But then again, who is 929 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: guarding Shaq still? Yeah, Shack still would have been a 930 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: massive problem, But that was a team that grinded it 931 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: out and just depended on Alan Iverson to take and 932 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: make tough shots, and so specific the guy that I 933 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: think would have been an interesting option, there is a 934 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: DeMar de Rozen, just because he was the kind of 935 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: guy that like you could really he's, in my opinion, 936 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: a better like on an island score than Paul George 937 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: can be because Paul George is just a little bit 938 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: too dependent on his three point shot, He's not as 939 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: good at drawing fouls. DeMar de Rozen, I think like, 940 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: is a little bit bigger and sturdier for some of 941 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: the more physical playback then I think Paul George, for 942 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: the record, is a better player than Demarta Rozen. Right now, 943 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm trying to say, but I just 944 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: think in that like kind of boxed in, like we 945 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: just need someone to grind out points type of environment. 946 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: Alongside that, that Sixers team in two thousand and one, 947 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: I think Demarta Rozen would have been a really interesting fit. 948 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: Next question, Hey Jason. First off, I love the show, 949 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: big Lebron fan here, and I know you are as well. 950 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: I've said for years that I think personally the twenty 951 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: seventeen Cavs were better than the twenty sixteen title team 952 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: and that they just ran into the best team ever. 953 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: I know the regular season wasn't great, but when you 954 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: look at the playoffs, their run was insane. Curious if 955 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: you agree, and if you can provide some context as well. 956 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,399 Speaker 1: So I thought the seventeen Calves were obviously a much 957 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: better offensive team than the twenty sixteen team. Lebron James 958 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: kind of went up a level as a scorer between 959 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: that from twenty sixteen into that twenty seventeen twenty eighteen stretch. 960 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: Lebron really went up a level in terms of his consistency, 961 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: and his jump shot and just his overall feel as 962 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: a score. 963 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 2: It was Lebron was. 964 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: Really peaking in his offensive skill in that twenty seventeen 965 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen range. Also, like they just had totally nailed 966 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: down all their spacing concepts and the one to two 967 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: punch of Kyrie and Lebron. They were really hunting on 968 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 1: all cylinders offensively. But it was one of their worst 969 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 1: seasons of that era in terms of their overall focus 970 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: and energy on the defensive end of the floor. And 971 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: so here's the thing. I don't think it would have 972 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: mattered under any circumstances with how good that twenty seventeen 973 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: Warriors team was. However, had Kevin Durant not gunn to 974 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: the Warriors and twenty seventeen was more or less a 975 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: rematch of the Harrison Barnes Warriors versus the twenty seventeen Calves, 976 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: I think it would have been a great series. But 977 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: the Calves would have been in some trouble in the 978 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 1: sense that, like even in that playoff run, they didn't 979 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: really need to defend that much, and so I wonder 980 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: if their defense in twenty sixteen they were just much 981 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 1: sharper defensively overall from start to finish in the season, 982 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: and so I don't know what would have happened if 983 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: the Caves and Warriors rematch in twenty seventeen. I really 984 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: wanted to see that, which is what kind of sucked 985 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: about Kevin Durant going there, is it just kind of 986 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 1: ruined what would have been a really fun rubber match 987 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: because the twenty seventeen Warriors are the best roster ever 988 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: assembled in my opinion, and they, I mean, the twenty 989 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: seventeen Warriors won fifteen consecutive playoff games. Think about that, like, 990 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even know if we've had 991 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,959 Speaker 1: a team won fifteen win fifteen straight regular season games 992 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: this year, and the Warriors literally won fifteen straight playoff 993 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: games in that twenty seventeen run, so like they were 994 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: just completely unbeatable. But I do think that twenty seventeen 995 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: Caves is playing with a little bit of fire, just 996 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: with where they were at defensively at that point in 997 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: the season, and it was really just effort and focus 998 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: and like discipline type stuff. Hey, Jason, I like your 999 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: explanation on why it's a better strategy to lean into 1000 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: higher field goal percentage shots at the end close games. 1001 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: Is it also better to take higher field goal percentage 1002 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: shots when you have a decent lead, to lower the 1003 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 1: variant of the game and lean into the trending outcome. 1004 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: So in general, I believe you lean on shot value 1005 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: in the large sample at the end of games. Yes, 1006 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: you want to hunt high field goal percentage. Also, it's 1007 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: about feeling the game. So for instance, like when you 1008 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: have a guy that you need to get in rhythm 1009 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: that hasn't been involved in the offense, you want to 1010 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: find a way to get him in rhythm when the 1011 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: other team, let's say you have an eighteen point lead 1012 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: and the other team scores three four baskets in a 1013 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: row and they're starting to regain control. That's a possession 1014 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: where it's really important for you to identify a high 1015 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: field goal percentage shot rather than a high shot value 1016 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: type of shot. And again, for those of you gus 1017 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: who don't understand what I'm saying, like, shooting thirty five 1018 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: percent from three is a higher value shot than shooting 1019 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: forty five percent on a two, right, But in that 1020 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: singular possession, forty five percent is more than thirty five percent. 1021 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: So that's what I mean. In the large sample. I 1022 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: want to lean into shot value. You want to take 1023 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: the highest value shot, but feeling out the game, identifying 1024 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: when it's important, and you need baskets those pivotal possessions, 1025 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: having really smart ball handlers that will track down high 1026 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: value shots within that specific possession. In terms of field 1027 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 1: goal percentage, usually are the teams that manage the flow 1028 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: of offense over a game better. Next question, Really want 1029 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: to get into podcasting, but I really don't know where 1030 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: to start. Love basketball, but I would primarily talk about 1031 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: football at the college and professional level. Any tips on 1032 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: how to start, So a couple of things. I think 1033 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: it's a blessing and a curse. I think it's the 1034 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: best possible time in the history of the industry to 1035 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: get involved because anybody can do it and you don't 1036 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: need a ton in terms of investment upfront, Like, I 1037 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: personally have a podcast that I do separate from this 1038 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: that I produce myself still to this day, just like 1039 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: I used to with my basketball stuff before the volume 1040 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: came on board, and for two Suns podcasts, what I'll 1041 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: do is like we recorded an episode at my buddy's 1042 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: house talking about Showgun the other day and literally I 1043 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: set up my phone on a tripod and it automatically 1044 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: pairs with my MacBook as a webcam. And then I 1045 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: had a microphone that I used to plug a cheap 1046 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: plug in microphone that I had, So like, you can 1047 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: literally for like you could buy a used MacBook, you know, 1048 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: for what three four hundred bucks, and you can use 1049 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: whatever iPhone you have and buy a tripod for thirty 1050 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,399 Speaker 1: bucks on Amazon, and get a microphone for thirty bucks 1051 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: on Amazon and have all the equipment you need to 1052 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: produce a podcast you can use like there are apps 1053 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: like Spotify for podcasters that allow you literally to host 1054 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: a podcast for free, right like there, Like YouTube is 1055 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: an incredible tool that is completely free for you to 1056 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: distribute content. Social media is an incredible place for you 1057 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: to put content out and advertise your podcast, right So, like, 1058 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: it has never been a better time for you to 1059 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: get involved. The flip side of that, though, is that 1060 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: it's a very flooded field. So if you do it 1061 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 1: very casually and you don't invest a ton of time 1062 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: into it, you have to be prepared for that process 1063 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 1: to be more slow because there are going to be 1064 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there that are relentless with content. 1065 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 1: That was a big thing that separated for me when 1066 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: I was getting into this industry. I covered every single 1067 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: Lakers game after the game. We we went live right 1068 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: after every single Lakers game, and so like we were 1069 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,879 Speaker 1: first and we were going every day basically, and then 1070 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: in between, I'd cover the rest of the league by 1071 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: myself in these like other podcasts that I would do. 1072 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: So like, I was really really grinding at it, and 1073 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 1: I was fortunate I had a flexible job at the time, 1074 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: so I was able to kind of just fit it 1075 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: in there. I had a wife was very supportive and 1076 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: was helping me, you know, pursue my dream of trying 1077 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,919 Speaker 1: to make this happen. So like, just keep in mind 1078 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,760 Speaker 1: it is flooded. So like if you want to separate yourself, 1079 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,399 Speaker 1: you have to separate yourself through quality work and through 1080 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: consistency of your work. As far as how to do it, 1081 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,240 Speaker 1: like it's really the simple. Set up your shit and record, 1082 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,240 Speaker 1: get something out there when you do, distribute it everywhere. 1083 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: Have it on a podcast feed, have it on YouTube, 1084 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: make sure you take clips of it, put it on 1085 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: social media to direct people to those feeds. As far 1086 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: as what content you cover, that's a beautiful thing about YouTube. 1087 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: You can have a podcast titled whatever, but on YouTube 1088 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: you can just target whatever that specific subject matter is. 1089 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: So for me my two Sons podcast with my buddy Luke, 1090 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: we cover a lot of like TV shows and specific 1091 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: and movies, but specifically I'm big into fantasy, right, so, 1092 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: like I love Star Wars, I love Lord of the Rings, 1093 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 1: I love Game of Thrones, Like Showgun is something that's 1094 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: right up my alley in terms of what I enjoy 1095 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: and appreciate obviously with the history element of it, and 1096 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: so like the branding of the episode is surrounding the 1097 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: subject matter. It's kind of like these shows, like you 1098 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: guys see, like we I just do a show, but 1099 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: we have a team of people that is really smart 1100 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:38,760 Speaker 1: about identifying what is most you know, like like interesting 1101 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: about whatever we're talking about, and they brand it accordingly. 1102 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: But like, make sure you're using YouTube, make sure you're 1103 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: using social media. The reason why the algorithms on those 1104 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: apps they do the work for you in the sense 1105 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,760 Speaker 1: that like, as long as you're talking about something interesting 1106 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: and as long as you're being interesting in terms of 1107 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 1: the watch time, those algorithms will continue to push your 1108 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: content out to other people, and so the point is 1109 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: never been a time to do it. I highly recommend 1110 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: that if it's something you're interested in doing, that you 1111 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: do it just because, like you can do it on 1112 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 1: the side of another career. It's a hobby for lack 1113 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: of a better term, right, But as long as you 1114 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: in order to separate yourself, you really have to make 1115 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: quality and quantity of content. And that's just something to 1116 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: keep in mind because it is a very flooded industry 1117 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: at this point. In one last little note on that front, 1118 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: what works for me doesn't necessarily work for everybody. This 1119 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: is just my own personal experience being in this industry, 1120 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: and as is always the case, I think it's important 1121 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: to pick the brains of lots of different people that 1122 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,839 Speaker 1: bring different perspectives, because again, what works for me might 1123 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: not work for you, and what works for you might 1124 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 1: not work for me. It's just, you know, everyone's unique 1125 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: in that regard. How important will it improve Jalen Brown 1126 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: be in a playoff series. Over the last fifteen games, 1127 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: he has a blistering sixty seven percent field goal percentage 1128 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: and eight point two half court drives per game, while 1129 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 1: only turning the ball over three point one percent of 1130 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: the time, how useful will his paint penetration be in 1131 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: a potential mil Milwaukee or Cleveland series. I think Jalen 1132 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: Brown's improvement is super exciting, mainly just because he's found 1133 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: a way to impact games in a way that doesn't 1134 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 1: rely on his skill as much. Obviously, he's playing a 1135 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: very high level skill game right now, but he's really 1136 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: leveraging his athletic tools on both ends of the floor, 1137 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: both as an on ball defender and also as a 1138 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: physical rim pressure guy. As you've been talking, he's been 1139 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: one of the main drivers of the Celtics have been 1140 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 1: the third best paint offense in the league of over 1141 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: the last seven games so by like two weeks or so, 1142 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: and Jenn Brown's been the primary driving force behind that. 1143 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 1: So I absolutely think it's encouraging and I absolutely think 1144 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: that it can help in the playoffs. And the main 1145 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,720 Speaker 1: reason why is like so much of basketball can be mental, 1146 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: and so having the ability to lean on athletic gifts 1147 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 1: when you're not confident mentally is a great way to 1148 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: keep impacting winning And I just feel better about Jalen 1149 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 1: Brown's resiliency as a playoff impactor this year as a result. 1150 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 2: Thanks question. 1151 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,399 Speaker 1: Do you think the NBA would ever consider doing away 1152 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: with the one through eight conference separated playoffs and instead 1153 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: go for a one through sixteen March Madness style bracket. 1154 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: Think it would be incredible to see a seven game 1155 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: series between teams and players we wouldn't otherwise see, and 1156 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 1: I think would open up the opportunity for all time 1157 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: legends to face off where the otherwise wouldn't. They'll never 1158 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,839 Speaker 1: do that just because of travel. It's just too unrealistic 1159 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: to be imagine a game five, game four, five, six, 1160 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: seven in basically the two cities going back and forth 1161 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: like it just it wouldn't work if you were going 1162 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: across the country. What do you think is the realistic 1163 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 1: ceiling of the Timberwolves and what is their championship windub? 1164 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: This team is clearly well built right now, but it's 1165 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 1: interesting to see that there's an age gap between the 1166 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, Cat McDaniels group and the Rudy Gobert Mike 1167 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 1: Conley group. I see the issue of relying too heavily 1168 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 1: on ant to generate for us in grind down half 1169 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: court offense situations, and I don't see how that is 1170 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,240 Speaker 1: improved without some sort of big roster moved via trade 1171 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 1: because the Cold Soda ain't exactly the hottest free agent 1172 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: destination in the nation. I've never heard that saying before 1173 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: the Cold Soda my wife actually went and played college 1174 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: basketball up in Minnesota, though she's told me a little 1175 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: bit about it. I just feel like by the time 1176 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 1: ant Man matures enough to make the right decisions and 1177 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 1: is able to be the best player on a championship team, 1178 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: it'll be three to four years from now and those 1179 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: guys will be too old, and we actually win a 1180 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: ship with this group. Given the deepness of the league 1181 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 1: and the odd age gaps with the core guys, a 1182 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 1: couple of things I don't like right now. What's exciting 1183 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: is the combination of perimeter defense and Gobert. But when 1184 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 1: you have elite perimeter defense, you don't need as much 1185 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,399 Speaker 1: in terms of rim protection. This is something we've seen 1186 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: with the Nuggets. Right when you have KCP and Aaron Gordon, 1187 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't make Nikola Jokic's limitations matter as much. As 1188 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, it gives him a role that 1189 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,879 Speaker 1: he can really thrive in defensively, right, So, like that's 1190 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: kind of way I look at it. 1191 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 2: In the long run. 1192 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: First of all, Gobert is only thirty one, so like 1193 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: in the event that you move on from Gobert, and 1194 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 1: Gobert's not really a tradable contract because of his salary number. 1195 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: So it like really as far as Gobert goes, like, 1196 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: I actually do think there's a longer window here than 1197 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 1: you think. But after Gobert, the way I look at 1198 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 1: it is you slide Cat to center and then you 1199 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: just have to find a Aaron Gordon esque type of 1200 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: power forward to put next to him. You got to 1201 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: find somebody that can essentially be the low man, that 1202 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: can be a rim protector and rebounder that allows Carl 1203 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 1: Towns to be aggressive and pick and roll coverages up 1204 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 1: at the level where he can use his intelligence more 1205 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: than the physical gifts that he has, right And so 1206 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: from that perspective, From that perspective, like, I actually am 1207 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 1: not really worried about the timeline stuff, And I do 1208 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: think Aunt is advancing at a fast enough rate that 1209 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: I think you'll be able to capitalize on the go 1210 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 1: Bear window at some point a few more Do you 1211 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:17,919 Speaker 1: feel like it is a lock for the twenty twenty 1212 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 1: four Lario Brian Trophy to be hoisted up by a 1213 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: Western Conference or Eastern Conference team. I argue that the 1214 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 1: West has arguably been the more difficult conference, particularly this 1215 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 1: season with the amount of tanking, slash unorganized teams in 1216 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 1: the East. So I'm on the fence because I kind 1217 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 1: of look, I look at the Clippers and the Bucks 1218 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: as like, I put the Clippers slightly above the Bucks, 1219 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 1: but they've been struggling as of late, and then now 1220 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,799 Speaker 1: the Suns are playing better, so I got to kind 1221 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: of like kind of factor them into that. 1222 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 2: List a little bit. 1223 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 1: I would say that there's I would say that, like, 1224 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 1: I give it like an eighty percent chance that either 1225 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 1: Denver or Boston wins. They feel like the clear obvious choices, 1226 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: and I definitely lean closer towards Denver in that regard. 1227 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 1: So then the question becomes, out of that Phoenix Clippers, 1228 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: Bucks group, who's more likely, And I still lean towards 1229 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 1: the West between those two teams versus that one, So 1230 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with the 1231 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: Western Conference on that one. I think the Bucks might. 1232 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 1: I think the Bucks might be the best chance to 1233 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: beat the Nuggets in the finals. The gap between the 1234 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: two teams isn't as large as people make it seem. 1235 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of both teams, mainly because of Jannis 1236 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: and Jokic are my favorite players to watch over the 1237 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: past three years. Can you provide in details advantages that 1238 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,320 Speaker 1: either team has if this wants to play out potentially 1239 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,439 Speaker 1: in the finals, because I don't believe any other team, 1240 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: even the Celtics, can beat Milwaukee in the East. So 1241 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 1: I disagree in the sense that I think Milwaukee has 1242 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: their work cut out for them to get out of 1243 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 1: the East. But I do think they have a legitimate 1244 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,719 Speaker 1: chance to get out. So with that being the case, 1245 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: looking quickly at matchups, Brook Lopez is another guy who 1246 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 1: will struggle to gard nikolea Jokic over the course of 1247 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 1: his series. He's had some success with him over the years, 1248 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 1: but he's got a high enough center of gravity that 1249 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 1: Jokic can kind of bump him off. Aaron Gordon is 1250 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: actually a decent matchup for Giannis. I think that on 1251 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,840 Speaker 1: the let's look first at the Denver on offense, Jokic 1252 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: working against Lopez Giannis on the back line, that's like 1253 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 1: as good of a duo as you can find there. 1254 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 1: Because Giannis has that ability to kind of be in 1255 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: two places at once, and I think they will have 1256 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 1: some success there where I worry about Milwaukee's at the 1257 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,879 Speaker 1: guard position. We just saw D'Angelo Russell Cook Dame Lillard 1258 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 1: in large part because of the size differential. These bigger 1259 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 1: skill guards are starting to give Milwaukee some issues. This 1260 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 1: has been an issue that we've seen kind of as 1261 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: of late in general with Milwaukee. And I worry about 1262 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray just like really really causing problems for their backcourt, 1263 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: just because of how much bigger he is than all 1264 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 1: of them. And then I don't think like a guy 1265 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: like Jay Crowder can hang with a guy like Jamal either, 1266 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: So I worry about that a little bit. You need 1267 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: to keep that size on the weak side because Michael 1268 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 1: Porter Junior is the guy who can really do damage 1269 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: on the offensive glass, and then obviously you need a 1270 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,839 Speaker 1: guy who can bother him with contests at his height. 1271 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 1: So I like how they match up with Denver in 1272 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: the front court, just in the sense that I think 1273 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 1: Giannis is as good of a low man as you 1274 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 1: can have in that situation, kind of helping off of 1275 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,319 Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon. But I worry about them in the back 1276 00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 1: court on the other end of the floor, Yo Kitchen 1277 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: and Aaron Gordon is about as good a frontline as 1278 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,439 Speaker 1: you could have to deal with the Yiannis problem, right, 1279 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: and then they're gonna throw KCP on Dame for the 1280 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: entire series. Again, to Aaron Gordon with Yokics behind him, 1281 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 1: is gonna be something they're gonna be able to do 1282 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 1: against Giannis and have some success. 1283 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:15,879 Speaker 2: I've seen even in. 1284 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: Euro League basketball, Jokic do a decent job guarding Giannis 1285 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: for stretches. So, like I again, I just think the 1286 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: Nuggets are a better team. I think they match up 1287 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 1: a little bit better. I think that they're gonna have 1288 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 1: an easier time generating quality shots. That doesn't mean Milwaukee 1289 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: can't win. I think it would absolutely utterly depend on 1290 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: Dame just being an absolute superstar because in that event, 1291 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: you if you can actually force the Nuggets to bring 1292 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 1: Jokic way up to the level of the screen and 1293 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 1: exist in rotation and kill teams with the dam Giannis 1294 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 1: pick and roll, I think they can have some success. 1295 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,919 Speaker 1: But I would still lean Denver in that matchup two 1296 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: more quick ones. A lot of people upset that I 1297 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 1: didn't mention D'Angelo Russell in the In the last podcast, 1298 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: I swear I talked about her. He's the hero of 1299 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 1: the game. He made the biggest play of the game 1300 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: at the end with that floater. I mentioned him having 1301 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: twenty one points in the fourth quarter. I don't really 1302 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: understand there's a segment of Lakers fans I think I 1303 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: hate dl which is just completely nonsensical. Delo's won me 1304 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 1: over this year. I'm a huge fan of Dlo. Even 1305 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 1: before the season, I had no issues with Delo. I 1306 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: just looked at it as next to Austin Reeves, he 1307 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 1: was the obvious guy that you had to trade, just 1308 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 1: based on his salary number, the years left on his contract, 1309 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: and the fact that he wasn't as playable in the 1310 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,880 Speaker 1: playoffs last year. Two things have changed. One, I was 1311 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: super impressed even when Delo wasn't playing very well. I 1312 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 1: was impressed with his professionalism. And then since he rejoined 1313 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: the starting lineup a couple months ago, he's just been 1314 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 1: a better player. And like, again this is something I 1315 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: harp about on the show, but like I'm going to 1316 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 1: respond to new information, and so like, Delo is a 1317 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: better basketball player now than he was when I was 1318 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 1: saying some of the things I said about him over 1319 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: the summer, like that's just a fact, and so I'm 1320 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: not married to any opinion. I don't have any personal 1321 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: beef with del I like Dlo a lot. He's now 1322 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 1: become one of my favorite players because I've learned to 1323 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 1: love not just his personality and his professionalism, but now 1324 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 1: he's also in roved so much that there's a lot 1325 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: to love just on the basketball side of things. So, 1326 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 1: like I did mention him last night, big fan of him. 1327 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 1: Don't really know what else to say. Last question, Hey, Jason, 1328 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: do you really think the Bucks defense got so awesome 1329 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 1: just because the Bucks won on a small win streak 1330 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 1: against bad teams except the Clippers. It doesn't seem like 1331 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: they are really any better than they were before Doc 1332 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: Rivers got there, and the offense is definitely slower. 1333 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,200 Speaker 2: And worse off. So a couple things. 1334 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 1: First of all, I actually am more encouraged about their 1335 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: offense than I've been all season, just because some of 1336 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: the stuff they're figuring out with the dam Giannis pick 1337 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: and roll. They're just starting to figure out some stuff 1338 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 1: in terms of their spacing and they're timing on the roles. 1339 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 2: That is really encouraging. 1340 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: As for the defense, I wanted to wait for this 1341 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 1: West coach trip to really evaluate them for that very reason, 1342 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: and they haven't defended well so like, I still have 1343 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 1: major defensive concerns, but I do think they're trying harder 1344 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: since Doc Rivers came, and there's still plenty of time 1345 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 1: here down the stretch of the season to evaluate them further, 1346 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: which we will do. So all right, guys, that is 1347 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 1: all I have for today. Is always I sincerely appreciate 1348 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 1: you guys for supporting the show. The plan as of 1349 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: right now, we're gonna be going tomorrow with a quick 1350 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,120 Speaker 1: instant reaction on a couple of games and another our 1351 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 1: mail bag in the morning, and then we will have 1352 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 1: a live reaction to Kings Lakers tomorrow night on YouTube 1353 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 1: after the final buzzer, I will see you guys. Then 1354 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 1: the volume