1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: I have been leading the bandwagon on this and saying 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens need to bring it back. I 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: say that because he's been one of the most dependable players. 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: He's checked every single box that you could ask him 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: to check. Thrill Sugs does not want to play somewhere else, 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: and I think it would be a mistake for him 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: to play somewhere else. This is why we don't actually 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: get the invitation to these big wig You don't ask 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: you the question if you knew I didn't know the answer. 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: I like to highlight your flaws. Welcome into the lounge. 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: We are in full off season mode now. And Garrett, 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: you know the big wigs, they didn't invite us. We 13 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: didn't get the invite, But the big wigs went down 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: to Florida. This is the time when Steve Azzi, Eric 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: harbors all them, Pat Moriarty, they all get together down 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: in Florida at Steve's place. Maybe they can have a 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: couple of bruskies. Maybe they spoke a couple of cigars 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: and they hash all this stuff out right. So, Garrett, 19 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do today is we're gonna put on 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: our GM hats. Do we get to have any Bruskies 21 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: and cigars. Sure did you bring did you bring him? 22 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: I didn't bring him with the right around the corner 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: of any fridge, not the cigars where the cigars man. 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: We gotta get breaking. This might be a break in 25 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: the mini fridge kind of Um, but we should. We 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: should do this with a couple of beers in us. 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: We might even make better decisions. I think that could 28 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: be the case. We're gonna we're gonna lay at our 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: off season plan. Yeah, so this is gonna be our 30 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: full off season plan. We've already discussed this a lot. 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: I think we're pretty much on the same page with 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff. But we'll kind of talk 33 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: through it as we go. Um. So, no, you know 34 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: this is gonna take a little while. It's full off 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: season playing. We don't have enough time to some emails, right, 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: so we're gonna jump. Yeah, we don't have time. I mean, 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: we gotta It's you don't have time to look back. 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: We're not looking back, We're looking ahead. We're moving forward. 39 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: Don't time. Yeah, alright, So let's start off with probably 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: the biggest offseason move here, and that's going to be 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: the contract of Joe Flacco and what happens with Joe Okay, 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: and we'll get into some of the vets that the 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: Ravens have to make difficult decisions on, starting with Yeah, 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: the way we're basically the kind of splitting this whole 45 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: process up. There's there's several pieces at this. First, as 46 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: you decide on your team, who do you want to keep? 47 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: That includes both unrestricted free agents and guys who are 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: going who aren't necessarily free agents but you want to 49 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: cut or not extend or that's a big contracts. Yeah, 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: who maybe didn't produce up the cup whatever. Yeah, and 51 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: then the second piece of this really is the draft, 52 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: so it's just and then also who do you sorry, 53 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: skip the second piece, skip the second piece, which is 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: who do you want to add? Guys on other teams 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: that you go out and you sign that either get 56 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: cut That are part of the first big expensive way 57 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: for free agency. The Ravens delved into that restricted free 58 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: agency pond last year with Willie Snee. Maybe they do 59 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: that again. So that's a second piece, and then obviously 60 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: the third pieces attracted. Yes, uh so we'll start with 61 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: difficult decisions on vets who are under contract to these 62 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: aren't unrestricted free agents. But the Ravens are gonna have 63 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: to make some tough decisions, and we'll start with Joe 64 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: Flacco because he's obviously the biggest. Obviously, Joe is not 65 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: gonna be here next year, that much is plainly clear. 66 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: You know, he's set to make twenty six point five 67 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: million dollars. You eight paying a backup quarterback six point 68 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: five right, So the obviously the best case scenario here 69 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: is for the Ravens to trade Joe because financially, it's 70 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: the same whether you trade him or release him. Now, 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: it's a little bit tricky. If you were going to 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: release him, you could space out that salary that cap 73 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: hit over two years if you were to do it 74 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: post June one. I believe post one. But that's it's 75 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: not really it's not really the best thing to do 76 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: for Joe. Right. I'm not gonna say it's not fair 77 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: to Joe, but it's not setting him up for the 78 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: best chance of success. Because people are gonna want their quarterbacks. 79 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: They're starting quarterbacks in play in March. Here's something that 80 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: can be designated post one. I'm not positive about that. 81 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: We don't know all the ins and outs, and this 82 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: is why we don't actually get the invitation to the 83 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: big wig. You don't ask you the question if you 84 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: knew I didn't know the answer. I like to highlight 85 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: your flaws well also either anyway, Alright, so Joe is 86 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: gonna probably he's ideally gonna get trader cut. We've already 87 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: talked about the possibility of him being traded. I think 88 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: a team like Jacksonville, maybe the Giants, maybe the Red 89 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: Jacksonville seems like maybe not. It seems like they're gonna 90 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: be interested in Nick Foles possibly. Yeah. So, you know, 91 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: they just hired his former coordinator, the Filipo or whatever, 92 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: Jean d Filippo. Yeah so, but they've also said that 93 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: that's has no impact on what they're gonna do at quarterback. 94 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: Whether you believe that or not, I don't know. But 95 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be interesting because Nick Foles is 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: out there. You know, there's gonna be some competition. Who 97 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: do people one Joe Flacco or Foles. It's tough. There's 98 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: not gonna be a lot of teams I think that 99 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: are clamoring for these services. You know, John Harwell said, 100 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 1: you think it's gonna be hot market. All it takes 101 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: is one or two, But I don't know that there's 102 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: gonna be you know, five six teams that are are 103 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: really clamoring the trade for Joe. I think that the 104 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: factor of Nick Foles is something that's significant because you're 105 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: what you're looking at is how many teams are looking 106 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: for a veteran stock gap who they also can believe, 107 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: who they also believe can be their guy for potentially, 108 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: say three years, and I think joking potential to go 109 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: longer than that. But you're you're not necessarily signing a 110 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: guy right now the expectation that he's going to be 111 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: your starter for the next decade. The Kirk Cousins, that's 112 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: that's not where Joe is at this point of his career. 113 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: So that these seems were thinking, could this guy be 114 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: a quality starter for us for the next, say three years? 115 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: And I think Joe could be. But you have to 116 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: those teams have to be believe in Joe. They have 117 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: to be more interested in him than say, Nick Foles, 118 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: and then they also have to want to go that 119 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: route versus going and draft like The New York Giants 120 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: are another one that I've talked about a lot. They 121 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: could keep Eli manning, which is possible. I think Joe's 122 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: better than Eli Manning, but they could keep him and 123 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: then they could also draft a quarterback with a six 124 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: overall pick. Well, and some some factors in play here 125 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: is that it's not supposed to be a really strong 126 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: quarterback class this year unlike last season. Uh so that 127 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: does make a veteran a little bit more alluring. But 128 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: I think that in general, the league is trending towards 129 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: getting guys on their rookie contracts, rookie quarterbacks on the 130 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: rookie contracts. Like, you know, it's only a couple of 131 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: years ago, a few years ago where these quarterbacks, like 132 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: these backups were signing these huge deals, I mean, like 133 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: crazy stupid money for guys. Who who is the guy 134 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: who barely came in for like the Seahawks or whatever. 135 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: Uh oh gosh, what was his name? You're talking ably 136 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: for the Packers Packers right, and Flinn signs a big deal, 137 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: Like how is that? You know? Like it's just like crazy. 138 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: So but then that guy like glennin for the Bears 139 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: got a huge contract. Yeah, but he didn't even end 140 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: up starting card and he's still drafted a rookie, say 141 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: for the Bears, my glennin bears a few years ago 142 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: and never but he got a big contract. I don't 143 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: think that you're going to see those anymore exactly. I 144 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: think those are kind of a thing in the past. 145 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: So anyway, that's a lot about Joe uh some other 146 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: interesting more decision just you're so quick. Do you think 147 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to trade him? My 148 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: gut says they will not end up being able to 149 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: trade him. Just have to release him. That's my gut. 150 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: I kind of agree with that. Yeah. Now next is Eric. Yeah, okay, 151 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: so he's do eight point to five million next year. 152 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: If you part ways of them, you save six and 153 00:07:54,880 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: a half. Okay, I'm gonna put Wettle and Sugs in 154 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: a similar category here. I agree with you on that. Okay. 155 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: It's it's the question of do you bring the band 156 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: back together the old guys on defense. Here's a little 157 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: even more nuanced look at it. You really have to 158 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: evaluate with those guys what they bring as leaders and 159 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: in the mental part of the game versus production. Right, 160 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: because we all didn't have zero interceptions last year, like Suggs, 161 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, he was still among our leaders and sacks, 162 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: but there were games I thought when Suggs just kind 163 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: of disappeared, you know, and and it's particularly in the 164 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: second half of the season. He was not a huge 165 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: impact playmaker. They'd have a touchdown, uh fumble recovery, but 166 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: you know you have when you're weighing the decisions on 167 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: those two guys, you're saying, they're obviously huge leaders for us. 168 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: They know the game mentally. I mean Sugs can call 169 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: out plays the line of scrimmage like anybody's business, you 170 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: know before they run them wet alls, orchestrating everything on 171 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: the back end, and was instrumental in the raves disguises. 172 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: What's the price for that? What's the value for that? 173 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: Because you can't expect those guys, I think, at this 174 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: point of their careers to be a huge playmakers. So 175 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: is it better off? Can you get Is it better 176 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: off to have a younger playmaker in that position or 177 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: a heavy veteran and keep the band back together. That's 178 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: a tough decision. I know that it is a really 179 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: difficult decision. I right now, my my feeling is to 180 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: try to keep the band back together and bring back 181 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: both of those guys. And I know that you're sort 182 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: of getting up and I recognize that I'm probably being 183 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: a little nostalgia you know, you say, Okay, there's the 184 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: nostalgia factor that I don't want to see trel Sugs 185 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: wearing a Detroit Lions uniform like Holodi Nada. You know, 186 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: that's weird. That's weird to be much more so than 187 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Holodi Nada or at Red obviously in Texans Jersey, which 188 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: was very odd, so that I recognized that. Um, But 189 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: I do think that both of those guys played a 190 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: significant role in the Ravens having the best defense in 191 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: the NFL last year, and I think that they could 192 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: continue to do that next year. Like I don't think 193 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: that I saw enough from the to say they can't 194 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: play and didn't drop off, Like are they as good? 195 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: Suggs as good as he was five years ago? No, 196 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: he's not, but is he better in my mind? And 197 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: Tim Williams, Yeah he is right now? Like right now, 198 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: if I'm going out there and you need to stop 199 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: on the fourth down, are you putting Tim Williams out there? 200 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: You putting Trill sucks? Obviously you're putting Turrill sucks. And 201 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: maybe the Ravens could go when they get a high 202 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: draft pick as a pass rusher. But to me, you 203 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: could still do that. You can still go spend a 204 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: high draft pick. And and also for speaking with Sugs, 205 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: if you lose him and you lose it Arius Smith, 206 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: that's a significant drop off there. Then it's Jude On 207 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: and Tim Williams highest bowser and draft pick. I agree. 208 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: I'm in the same boat with you on Sugs. I 209 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: would bring Sugs back on a one year deal with 210 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: the second year option, let's say, because and A, I 211 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: think Sugs on a pretty favorable I think financial deal 212 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: deal for the Ravens thrill. Suggs does not want to 213 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: play somewhere else, and I think it would be a 214 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: mistake for him to play somewhere else because he can 215 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: be himself in Baltimore, and that's why he continues to play. 216 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: You know, Sungs isn't playing for the money anymore, not 217 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: that he hates money, but that's not the incentive. He's 218 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, he has the accolades, he has 219 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: a potential Pro Bowl or Hall of Fame resume. What's 220 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: he still playing for? You know what? Because he loves 221 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: the game and he loves being around it and all 222 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: that he knows he can do that he knows he's 223 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: gonna love it in Baltimore. If he goes to another team, 224 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: he's not sure if he's gonna be able to love it. Yeah, 225 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a totally different dynamic, different head coach, 226 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: different players. He can't just necessarily walk in there and 227 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: be the same guy joking around with guys the same 228 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: way he has here. So to me, I think he 229 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: would be okay signing a club favorable kind of deal. 230 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: Not that he's gonna get played for nothing, but I 231 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna demand high money either. I don't 232 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: think any other about from high money either. Could you 233 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: sign him to a two year timillion dollar contracts or 234 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: I think it might be less than that two year eight, Yeah, 235 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: maybe two year eight. And I mean, I think it's 236 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be favorable. Uh, you know, the second year 237 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: I think is gonna be it's kind of an opt 238 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: out yet, it's really like a one year five exactly exactly. 239 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: It's one year five to year eight exactly. And um, 240 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: but I agree with you that I think if you 241 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: lose him, we haven't seen enough of Thyas and Tim yet. 242 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: Now tyson him in a year from now, I'd like 243 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: to see them grow for one more year where one 244 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: of those guys steps into a Zadarius role next year 245 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: and that enables them to get more reps and start 246 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: to flourish and get their legs under him, and then 247 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: we can see what they can do as a starter 248 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: perhaps next year or a Rains draft pick this year 249 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: it develops into a starter or whatnot. I don't know 250 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: that the Rains are set up right now to turn 251 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: the page yet at safety metals a little bit tougher 252 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: for me. I think his drop off in production was 253 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: a little bit more stark than Terrells was this year. Um. 254 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: I still think he is obviously huge in the mental part. 255 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: That much cannot be discounted. But I think the rams 256 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: are a little better set up there to possibly turn 257 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: the page with a Chuck Clark stepping in. Maybe it's 258 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: a draft pick that could step in immediately. Um, you 259 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: know you have de Shawn Sean Elliott was a pick 260 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: who I thought flashed. I wouldn't be ready for him 261 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: to be a starter. Yet. One thing you always have 262 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: to be careful about and and look, you do have 263 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: to project guys, and you sat to say, okay, you know, 264 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: as a as a team. We do believe that Matt 265 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: Skurr can be our starting center. You have to, you know, 266 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: have those sorts of beliefs. But at the same time, 267 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: I also think that it's easy to fall victim to 268 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: the belief that, like this guy who was a draft 269 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: pick is going to be a great player just because 270 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: we thought he was good in college. Like that doesn't 271 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: necessarily always happen to be the case. So I do 272 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: agree with you. I think the Rams are probably a 273 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: little bit better set up if they were to move 274 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: on at safety, but losing Wettle and all that he 275 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: brings to the table. From a mindset standpoint, I would 276 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: say bring him back for one more year. That would 277 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: be my vote for Well, yeah, I would do if 278 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be opposed. But here's the question. You save 279 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: six and a half million dollars six and a half, 280 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: You can get a pretty good safety for six and 281 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: a half even if you go to the free agent round. Yeah, 282 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: they could. They have at times been sort of in 283 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: the desert at safety, and they've tried the free agency 284 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: or out a lot. That's what they did with wet All, 285 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: and that's what they did with Jefferson. But they've done 286 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: it with Dary and Stewart, they did it with Kendrick Lewis, 287 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: they did it with Michael Hoff like they had some 288 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: swings and misses at safety. You must want to go 289 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: and don't know that. I don't think that means anything. 290 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: You can't just say, well, we haven't done really well 291 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: in our history, so we're not gonna do it again. 292 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: That's like the wide receiver quester. So you don't rings 293 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: haven't drafted well wide receivers, so don't draft any wide 294 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying don't draft any wide receivers, but you 295 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: probably have our older the belief that you don't have 296 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: any concern that the drug receiver that they're gonna take 297 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: in the first round is gonna be great because they've 298 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: got this great. Because the history is no indicator of 299 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in the future. Is that what you're saying. 300 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: I honestly don't put a whole lot of stock in 301 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: the whole history thing. I just don't. So your history 302 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: is not an indicator of future success in making free 303 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: in making front office decisions. Yes, I don't think it's 304 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: a huge factor. Though. You think the Ravens just can't 305 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: scout wide receivers. I think that they have, as Eric 306 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: to Costa said last year, that they've had they have 307 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: gone through a process at wide receiver that needed to 308 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: be adjusted. Yeah, they needed to. Why is that because 309 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: success they need to value wide receiver higher. It's it's 310 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: the whole process. It's the whole process. There's a difference 311 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: between where you value wide receivers and taking the wrong 312 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: guy and just not showing a good one. But I 313 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: don't think because because Brashad Perriman was a bust, that 314 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: if they take a first round rod receiver this year 315 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: that he's going to be a bust. You think that. No, 316 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the past history 317 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: at those positions can lead to it having concerned about 318 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: that they're gonna hit a wide receiver. I can understand 319 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: that it leads to concern, but I don't think it's 320 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: legitimate concern. I can understand it all right. Next, Jimmy 321 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: Smith set to make fifteen point eight million dollars next year, 322 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: you save nine and a half. I partingly, I think 323 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: that there's two things that I would do with Jimmy. One. 324 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: I would either extend him and try to carry it. 325 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that I would extend him. Would injury 326 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: history and age there, I agree, But I think that 327 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: I just am not of the belief that a lot 328 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: of people have, which is just cut Jimmy Smith and 329 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: find another and save that money because corners are really 330 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: hard to find him. And yeah, he would be a 331 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: candidate for me to talk about pay cut foremost Now 332 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: he may say thanks for thanks for talking about it now. Yeah, 333 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: but he may make more here taking a pay cut 334 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: than he would elsewhere. Maybe, But I don't know how 335 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: many how many teams are looking for a cornerback who's 336 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: had a bust of achilles. Uh, you know, Jimmy's got 337 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: a little bit on his resume suspension. Yeah, market might 338 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: not be great. It might not be great, but there's 339 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: Chard Sherman's market last year. Wasn't that all that great? Yeah, 340 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: but he also just he's coming off a season where 341 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: he played sixteen games, which a sermon was coming off 342 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: a season where he just torn his achilles. Well, Jimmy 343 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: played twelve games, right, but he played a full season. 344 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: He wasn't He had no injury history this year, and 345 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: he was really good at the end of season. So 346 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: you're saying This is a guy that at the end 347 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: of season was one of the better corners in the league. 348 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: Richard Sermon was older and he was coming off the 349 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: torn Achilles, So I think it would be better than servant. 350 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm not in the business of 351 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: parting ways with good corners because they're tough to find. Um. 352 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: But well, this leads us to another one, Brandon car No, 353 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: bring it back? Do you opt in for seven million dollars? 354 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: Bring him back? So if you opt in for seven 355 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: million on Brandon Car are you does that making more 356 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: comfortable losing Jimmy? Not? Really? No, I mean I understand 357 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: that Brandon never misses a snap. Even the past history 358 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: is not an indicator of future performance for him. Um, 359 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: but I do think that that is that a job 360 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: about my receivers. There's a job about your dumb opinions. 361 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: You are really fired up about that. Yeah, you really 362 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: want to bash us in our history of drafts. Now, 363 00:17:50,760 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: I want to bash you. No, let your opinion. Um 364 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: what I'd say that I would bring them both back. 365 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: I would bring back Brandon Card, bring back Jimmy Smith, 366 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: And you need three good corners. I just am not 367 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: like you said. I'm not in the business part ways 368 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: with good corners. I'm bringing the band back together on 369 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: defense for pretty much everyone. Okay, that would be my 370 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: is my feeling, Okay, except for the one I wouldn't, 371 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: is it Darius. I would let sad areus go out 372 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: and walk. I'm not gonna pay him. I would not 373 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: pay him ten million dollars over four years. So that 374 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: takes us to our own restricted free agents. Okay, So, uh, Zadarius, 375 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, yes, I agree. I am probably not 376 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: gonna pay Zadarius what he's going to get on the 377 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: market for a guy who hasn't defended the run all 378 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: that well, he's really strictly a pass rusher. Tias Bowser. 379 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: You drafted Tim Williams to become that guy, right, It's 380 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: Tim Williams time to step up next year. I don't 381 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: know that I'm paying that Arius that money. Yeah, I 382 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: just and I think he's a good player. I think 383 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: that he would that he would do fine, el swear, 384 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: But um, he's going to get I think contract that 385 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: it would be more than the Ravens would be willing 386 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: to pay. And and if when he signs that, I'll 387 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: take that compic and exactly you get you get he 388 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: might get a third round compick out of that. Yeah, potentially, Yeah, 389 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: for sure. So he to me, reminds me a lot 390 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: of Parnell and Paul Krueger. We've been saying it all 391 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: season long, and it came true. I mean, he was 392 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: he wanted that bag season he got um another free 393 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: agent obviously the biggest, most important guy, C J. Mosley. 394 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: I have been leading the bandwagon on this and saying 395 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens need to bring him back. Correct. 396 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: I say that because he's been one of their most 397 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: dependable players. He's checked every single box that you could 398 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: ask him to check. And if you're going to spend 399 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: money on anybody, right, if you're gonna spend all this 400 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: money on bringing back Jimmy and Wet and all, Like, 401 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: why would you not bring back a guy in his 402 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: prime who's done everything right, you know, who's still maybe 403 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: an ascending player if not, he's at a very high 404 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: level and plateau there whatever him. Yeah. Like, the Ravens 405 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: have a little bit more salary cap this season, and 406 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: they're going to get more by parting ways with Joe. 407 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: I'm spending all my own guys. First, you've kind of 408 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: convinced me over the course of the year, and CJ's 409 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: play has convinced me that that it doesn't make sense 410 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: to let him walk. The thing that I've always asked, 411 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: it's never, it's been ever been a question about CJ's performance. 412 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: Has been a question about the position that he plays 413 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: and the money that he wants. Is that money warranted 414 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: at that position? And for a league that is moving 415 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: so much more into the passing direction. Um, c J 416 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: obviously is not the best in coverage. He's better against 417 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: the run, even though I don't think he's You're the 418 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: kind of guy that he was talking about after you 419 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: made that interception and he said, you know, I see 420 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: you on Twitter. Nobody thinks I can cover right right, 421 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you know there is here here's He's not 422 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: the best coverage inside linebacker. I do kind of think 423 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: that that gets a little bit. Nobody thinks that anybody 424 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: can around the league that they're lineback cover tight ends 425 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: because guess what, it's a mismatch. Every fan base is 426 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: always like, we can't go to plus, Like, I mean, 427 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: Kelsey had a big game on all the tight ends, 428 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: like seriously went off against this. Well. I also think 429 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: c J sometimes just ends up an unfortunate circumstances that 430 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: really are your fault of his own, Like, oh, he 431 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: can't roll with Tyrey Kill. Okay, so that's a real 432 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: knock on him. That's a that's a big slight. No, 433 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't think so, but so I do. I would 434 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: keep I would keep c J. And he wants to 435 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: stay here. I think that's a deal that we'll get 436 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: worked out. It's an interesting little thing, spot Track, which 437 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: keeps track of all these guys contracts whatever. They have 438 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 1: a new feature called like what's their their value market value? 439 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: They value c J. Bassley at nine point seven mill? Sign? 440 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sign? You know who? I have a you 441 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: know who I bet doesn't value it c J at 442 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: nine point seven Milly is Jimmy Sex Because what what 443 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: did Luke Kicklick get? I mean, Luke Keiley's got about 444 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: twelve million dollars. Well, here's the thing there, there are 445 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: some other good inside linebackers that are gonna he's gonna 446 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: compare to Like everybody points to Luke Keikly and I 447 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: understand that, But is CJ this second best linebacker in 448 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: the NFL? Well not positive wink Martin Dell says he's 449 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: the best. I know, you think you like his agents 450 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: is gonna bring that up in the conversation with Well, 451 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna bring that up. But I think when you 452 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: look at the stats and all factors combined, I'm not 453 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: not sure that he's There's some other guys that he's 454 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: going to compare to that are lower, much lower than 455 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: Keikly I think. I mean, look, you look at CJ. 456 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: Like I said, I love him. I want him back 457 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: half sack and one interception this season. Stuff. You think 458 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: the Rams are gonna bring that up with his agents, 459 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: are I agree? Um? But I do think that they'll, like, 460 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: I think that he's going to be and and another 461 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: team may pay him if a team's got a ton 462 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: of cap space where they pay him twelve Yeah, I 463 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. Uh, we already talked about 464 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: sugs r G three. You bring him back to be 465 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: Lamar's backup quarterback, I probably would. I mean, I think 466 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not going to break the bank for it. 467 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: I think that, but I think that for a good 468 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: backup quarterback, you probably have to pay him a little 469 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: bit more than you did this year. But it's just 470 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: one point one. Yeah, I think that there's two factors here. 471 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: I think that the dynamic between them is good. Um 472 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: the mentor type vibe, I think is good, But I 473 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: think that large larger than that. It allows you to 474 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: continue running the same offensive Lamar where to get hurt Um. 475 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: He has familiarity in that within this system, particularly in Baltimore, 476 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: and obviously of the course of his career, So I 477 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: think it makes sense for a lot of reasons, like 478 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: you're not gonna go and get Ryan Mallett, You're not 479 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: kind have signed that that kind of guy. I think 480 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: my first choice would be RG three, and if that 481 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: didn't work out, it would be interested in kicking the 482 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: tires on Tyrod Taylor. I'm not sure that he wants 483 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: to be in a backup role anymore. I think he 484 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: would probably at least want to be in a position 485 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: in a place where he competes for a starting job, 486 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: which he would not be in that position here. To me, 487 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: this makes so much sense for both sides, for the 488 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: Ravens and RG three. RG three would have a better 489 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: chance of seeing the field that he did this year, 490 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: so it kind of gradually continue. Is his NFL comeback? 491 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: I would bet that he would see the field with Lamar, 492 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, at some point not going what he does it, 493 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: but I bet he would. Um, And the Ravens know 494 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: what they have in him. He played well this year 495 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: when he had to. He likes it here. I think 496 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. But yes, you're gonna 497 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: have to pay him a little bit more money, but 498 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't think like outlandish money. Um. All right, two 499 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: other guys at tight end Maximum's and Nick Boyle. I 500 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: like him both. I probably bring back Boyle he's such 501 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: a good blocker. And the Ravens obviously we're gonna run 502 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: the system where they do a ton of blocking, so 503 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: you probably can't swing on both. I would probably bring 504 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: back Nick. I would agree with that. John Brown, you 505 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: know what, it's my turn to start one off. Go ahead, 506 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: kick it off. Um. Not bringing back John Brown, Um, 507 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: unless it's on a pretty favorable deal. Spot tract value 508 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: at six point one million. I don't know that I'm 509 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: bringing them back that because he signed one for five 510 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: this past year. Yeah, Um, I mean really, the obvious 511 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: thing that you look at is his production went dramatically 512 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: dropped once Lamar took over. Now you have you can't 513 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: say just don't give Lamar any wide receivers because if 514 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 1: you expect him to progress as a passer, he needs 515 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: good wide receivers in order to do that, and you 516 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: need him to progress as a passer. With that said, 517 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: I think we can all agree that of the pie, right, 518 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: more money should be allotted to being really good at 519 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: what Lamar does well right now, right, and that's I 520 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: think your offensive line running back perhaps like getting a 521 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: really good running offense. So I don't want to spend 522 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: big money for a receiver. Six point one million if 523 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: that's what John Brown ends up getting, isn't a lot. 524 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: It's not breaking the back bank. I mean, you saw 525 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: some of the deals that wide receivers got last off season. 526 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: It was crazy. But I would be interested in a 527 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: receiver that seems to fit Lamar a little bit better. 528 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: Lamar right now has there is not throwing to the sidelines. 529 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: I think he does throw a good deep ball, and 530 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: that's obviously what John does. But I'm interested in the 531 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: guy who can make more contestant catches. I saw too 532 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: many of those hit the turf this year when throwing 533 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: to John Brown. Uh So I'm warn't a new guy 534 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: like a Funchius. Let's say, who's an unrestricted free agent, 535 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: big body guy. I'm interested in in big bodied uh 536 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: rookies that you might draft. Uh, I'm interested in somebody 537 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: like that. What about a big body veteran receiver like 538 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: Michael Crabtree. I'm not dropped too many contestant catches, right, 539 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: So you're letting both those guys go. That was my 540 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: lead in there. Sorry, that was another vet that I 541 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: forgot to put it on the list of the guys 542 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: who are on a contract. No, I'm not bringing back Crabtree. 543 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: I am bringing back Willie Steed. I thought he worked 544 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: well with Lamar work the middle of the field pretty well. No, 545 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: So it's basically, you're you're signing up for another rebuild 546 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, which is what the Ravens obviously went 547 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: through last year, and they completely read made that room, 548 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: which they knew could be a potential when they went 549 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: in this action, because because you signed John Brown to 550 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: a one year deal, right and Michael Crabtree was a 551 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: three year deal, but you've got it out after this year, 552 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: so you knew that was a potential. Um. But yeah, 553 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: I could see that. I could see that being the case. 554 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean, then you're in a position where you've either 555 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: got to get somebody in free agency or draft somebody high. 556 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: And now the question is I think the the Ravens 557 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: are gonna be asking themselves do we want to box 558 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: ourselves in where we've got to draft somebody high again? 559 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: Because if you let Crabtree and Brown go sneeze your 560 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: number one, you're not gonna sign you again. You're not 561 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: gonna sign somebody for a massive contract in free agency. 562 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: So do you what do you do there? That's my 563 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: that's my question. I mean, I think you have to attack. 564 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: I think you have to attack free agency pretty aggressively. 565 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: You do have Chris Moore, who I think could perhaps 566 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: be a number two wide receiver. I mean, I've been 567 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: impressed with what I've seen from Chris um so I 568 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: think that he's deserving of more of a shot, a 569 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: shot at the number two roll. But you obviously need 570 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: to still probably sign one, probably two free agents. If 571 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: you let both those guys go and draft somebody. You 572 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: have you have, lastly, you have Jualille Scott. You can't 573 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: obviously bank on them that they would be a bonus 574 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: if if they were really good next year. But um 575 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: you know, I think you do have to give some 576 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: of these dimmer guys a little bit more of a shot. Right, 577 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: So as we move ahead to the draft, are there 578 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: are more unrestricted free agents? Brent Irman is an interesting one. 579 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: I mean I'd be interested bringing them back, but not 580 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: a huge deal. You have Chris Wormley, there, you have 581 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: Willie Henry. I think you have some options. You'll probably 582 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: draft the defensive lineman and another d nd um Buck 583 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: Allen time Montgomery. I probably am saying goodbye to both 584 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: those guys. The other interesting case at running back is 585 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: restricted free agent Alex Collins and what do you tender 586 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: him with? Or do you just let him? Do you 587 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: not tender him? Maybe what I probably do with Alex 588 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: is I may put a low tender on him, the 589 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: the original round tender, which is the lowest cost you 590 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: bring him back. That gives you him, that gives you 591 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: Kenneth Dixon, and that gives you potential rookies. And sorry, yeah, 592 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not I'm not ready to push my 593 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: chips into the center table. And Kenneth Dixon, giving his 594 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: injury history and off the field suspension problems, I'm not 595 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: banking on KNT Dickson, even though I think he's a 596 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: great player. I really like him as a player. Gus Edwards, 597 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: I liked him, I thought he was good. I think 598 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: he's good in the system. But I'm interested in the 599 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: upgrade at running back. And that leads me to the draft, 600 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: which is I've banging in the table for years now 601 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: to take a running back in the first two rounds, 602 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: and this is the year there's no there's no second 603 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: round pick, so for us the first round, well, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, 604 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: that's correct. That's you get a secon round pick for Joe. 605 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: That's true. I might What I think would be a 606 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: nice scenario this year's draft potentially is if you can 607 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: slide back. I know people don't like the trade black 608 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: back conversation, but you can slide back in the draft 609 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: potentially add a second round pick and make up now 610 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: that you have a first in the second round. Don't 611 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: hate it. I like offensive line, pass rusher, wide receiver, 612 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: running back. Those are my top four needs. I'm hitting 613 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: offensive lines somewhere, and I'm talking guard, guard, center somewhere 614 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: in the first three rounds. I'm hitting a wide receiver 615 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: somewhere in the first three rounds, and I'm hitting running 616 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: back pass rusher. I think depends on what happens with Suggs, 617 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: and if you can get a stud pass rusher in 618 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: the first round, it's not bad option. I don't think 619 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: that's a bad option. I would probably, yeah, bump running 620 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: back to the fourth round exactly that we're are with 621 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: the fourth round running back or line the fourth round. 622 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, I do think that you 623 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: can find better interior offensive lineman a little bit later 624 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: in the drive. However, if you want to get a stud, 625 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: if you want to get a quainted Nelson, if you 626 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: want to get somebody, come in and plug in and 627 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: play Ko. I always look at Ko perfect second round pick. 628 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean, look at third round with Orlando. If you 629 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: take a guard around that position, right, happy with that? 630 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: In Atlanta was a little bit of a steal, you know, Okay, 631 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: go go to the commin a little fine fine who 632 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: has a terrible combine, and then go ahead and plug 633 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: him in big time. Find the offense a lot with 634 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: the bad him. Anyway, that's us playing gm uh. As 635 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: long as the Ravens follow our exact plan, it'll be great. 636 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: Back to the playoff. Back to the playoffs, there we 637 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: go super Bowl, super Bowl next year at this plan 638 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: um anyway, thank you for listening. As always, you can 639 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: reach us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot 640 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: next send us your plan, Send us to your plan. 641 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: We would love to hear it um and we'll we'll 642 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: read the best ones or snippets of the best ones 643 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: next week. Thanks for listening. We'll be back to you 644 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: next week.