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Speaker 1: Dave East, episode number eight of the bootleg Kept podcast.
Speaker 1: Let's go What's up. Man, I saw you, Like I
Speaker 1: want to say, right before the whole ship got shut down.
Speaker 1: You was out here in like February early March working
Speaker 1: on Karma three, and then everything just shut the fuck down,
Speaker 1: world shut down. I ain't like this is the first
Speaker 1: time I left New York. Yeah, you've been like That's
Speaker 1: what I was awesome to say. Man, Like you're you're
Speaker 1: usually in la a lot. It's been a while obviously.
Speaker 1: How has uh everything that's going on and just affected
Speaker 1: your business? Like like, like, are affected your besides having
Speaker 1: to stay inside and all that shit just was it
Speaker 1: was their plans is that you know touring or I
Speaker 1: know Karma three's coming was Did anything get put on
Speaker 1: hold or delayed because of what's happening? Yeah? I did
Speaker 1: the Drop Survival with November. Yep. The whole month of
Speaker 1: December we did the European tour, and then when we
Speaker 1: came back from that, we were supposed to start the
Speaker 1: West Coast and like, uh South and Midwest Legative Toy
Speaker 1: were supposed to start that in March and all shut down.
Speaker 1: Have you? Uh? I gained quarantine weight because I was
Speaker 1: eating all kinds of I was just bored, bro. First
Speaker 1: like month of the quarantine, I was just at the
Speaker 1: crib bored a ship before in the morning I'd be
Speaker 1: fucking micro waving some noodles or some shit. I know,
Speaker 1: you're like a really healthy guy. That was your health
Speaker 1: ever like affected? Like were you eating like eating worse? Sir? No,
Speaker 1: just I couldn't go to the gym, so that made
Speaker 1: it a little different doing push ups at the crib
Speaker 1: and ship. You had to get back on pull up
Speaker 1: and push ups at the crib the rough riders work
Speaker 1: out to call it. Yeah, other than that, I'm heating
Speaker 1: this thing. I'm a heating still still still still smoking
Speaker 1: good all that. You're a pretty healthy guy when it
Speaker 1: comes to what you put in your body. I remember,
Speaker 1: I think the last time you came to the station,
Speaker 1: you were drinking a bunch of random crazy juice. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta gotta watch what you put in
Speaker 1: your body. I feel like, if you want to be here,
Speaker 1: at what point in time did you start to like
Speaker 1: give a fuck about your health and like started to like,
Speaker 1: you know, do some research about the you know, getting
Speaker 1: into the juice and shit, and like probably when my
Speaker 1: daughter was born, so like twenty sixteen, so I was
Speaker 1: what like twenty six I was. I was drinking lean
Speaker 1: a lot at that time. Right, what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: was heavy on a lean and I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just went through like that was like the first time
Speaker 1: a drug affected me. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: never did no other drug. But that should me waking
Speaker 1: up sweats or that. If I didn't have it, I'll
Speaker 1: be mad, Like that is a drug, you know what,
Speaker 1: right you'd be like, oh shit, this is this Really
Speaker 1: I really could become that guy I understand. Fiend Like
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I get it, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you be needing it. So once I was
Speaker 1: able to shake that, I didn't want to do nothing else,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like nothing, I've been on
Speaker 1: champagne and weed. Champagne and weed. You do drink a
Speaker 1: lot of champagne everything. Every time I see you have
Speaker 1: a bottle, I mean, look at it. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what time it is. What is it three? You
Speaker 1: know why? Because it don't. I mean, if you drink
Speaker 1: enough of it, you'll be twisted. But it's a you know,
Speaker 1: just keep you in a good it's a good vibe.
Speaker 1: Have you all look at you bet? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: for me, every time I drink champagne, I just feel
Speaker 1: bloated as fuck. Then I ain't gonna front lately, I
Speaker 1: guess because I drink a lot of I've been feeling
Speaker 1: like heartburn like something here. See that. It's that. And
Speaker 1: you're also getting older too. We're getting old, bro, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Karma three, I know you've been
Speaker 1: working on it. You've put out man a few a
Speaker 1: few videos. The Karma series is, you know, I think
Speaker 1: an important part of your career and your legacy. What
Speaker 1: what is the coach to this project and just that
Speaker 1: series in general? When you know that like something's gonna
Speaker 1: go in that Karma series, Like, do you approach it differently? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I feel like it's more uh me, or like more
Speaker 1: of more of me, not really caring about like the
Speaker 1: standards sort of, you know, or I need this type
Speaker 1: of record, or I need this that just beat me
Speaker 1: just in my own zone, working with different producers and
Speaker 1: just trying to, you know, get some gift constantly let
Speaker 1: people know I could rap what y'all fell in love
Speaker 1: with me for from the beginning. Yeah, I'm always shock
Speaker 1: with that. So I feel like the Karma Karma series
Speaker 1: gives me opportunity to to kind of mix it up,
Speaker 1: you know, have some big records on there, but then
Speaker 1: have some ship for the streets, has something for the
Speaker 1: fans that that's into that, that's into what I do.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I was gonna say, did
Speaker 1: you feel okay? Because when you first came out, man,
Speaker 1: I remember being like, yo, this dude was like hearing
Speaker 1: your early ship. Like I remember finding you on two
Speaker 1: Dope Boys early on and uh and that was what
Speaker 1: you were known for. And then ladies discovered you and
Speaker 1: now to change the game plan and now and now,
Speaker 1: well now you're you know, shout out to all the
Speaker 1: women that are all of a sudden listening to some
Speaker 1: like some dav ship that they would have never have
Speaker 1: listened to before in their entire fucking life. But because
Speaker 1: you're Dave's and you're their man crushed Monday, you're bringing
Speaker 1: them into that world. Like what did do you remember
Speaker 1: when you noticed, like you be you were becoming like
Speaker 1: a thing with the with the women. Oh yeah, me
Speaker 1: after perfect Chris Brown. When I first linked with Chris
Speaker 1: Brown and that went like public, it was over it changed,
Speaker 1: It changed up. I g ship everything. It switched up.
Speaker 1: Not that it was bad before, but you know, after
Speaker 1: after you got a record with Breezey, it might it
Speaker 1: might change. Would you say that? I think most of
Speaker 1: the people who are fans of your music right are
Speaker 1: probably like me or you know, the homies, right because
Speaker 1: the kind of shit you make. But would you say
Speaker 1: your fan base as a whole now probably encompasses more
Speaker 1: women than anything. Yeah, I feel like coming in, like
Speaker 1: you said, it was more you were like a breath
Speaker 1: of fresh air to hit the hip hop the people
Speaker 1: that loves lyricism, like that crowd. Then it transitioned into
Speaker 1: the girls, and then I start doing the acting. So
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of my fan base is
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of my fan base might
Speaker 1: not even know my music or that's what I was
Speaker 1: gonna ask. Yeah, I think I feel like some people
Speaker 1: just follow you because, OK, they're just trying to like,
Speaker 1: you know what, Come on what I'm saying, it don't
Speaker 1: hurt it, don't hurt me at all. No, I mean,
Speaker 1: and obviously I'm sure it. Hey, you'll take any following
Speaker 1: you can get, man, especially in twenty twenty, talk about
Speaker 1: like I just saw was it? Last month? There was
Speaker 1: this narrative going around on Twitter that you you're bad
Speaker 1: at picking beats? Did you see that? I don't even
Speaker 1: be on Twitter, but you know I think somebody did.
Speaker 1: They tagged like they put it they posted on Twitter
Speaker 1: and then they tagged me in it on Instagram. Well
Speaker 1: what's what's interesting about that? First of all, I don't
Speaker 1: agree with that, but second of all, you nas Co
Speaker 1: signed you and and the big hang up on nas
Speaker 1: historically is that he's bad at picking beats. What do
Speaker 1: you think do you think? I think people are there
Speaker 1: for the lyrics, same thing with nas, but do you
Speaker 1: think you have a good ear for beats or do
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah? You know what's funny about that post?
Speaker 1: I know it was one beat. It was like some wow,
Speaker 1: and I was on my Instagram live like just freestyle
Speaker 1: into the ship. But the beat was just some loud
Speaker 1: ship that somebody loaded up and it sounded crazy. No
Speaker 1: I heard it sounded crazy. It took that and it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, his beat selection is hard, like, man,
Speaker 1: go listen to my music man bad beat selection. Hey,
Speaker 1: I don't think Na's got bad beat selection. It's just
Speaker 1: it's what you're into he let Chris web produced a
Speaker 1: few beats that he could He probably could have kept
Speaker 1: on Chris Weaver's laptop. You know, I know you're a
Speaker 1: big sports guy. NBA being back is a blessing, especially
Speaker 1: for me, who I gamble a lot. So that a
Speaker 1: gift and a curse that ugh? Oh yeah, like what
Speaker 1: am I supposed to gamble? Bookies? Old? I know. That's
Speaker 1: been a tough time. Korean baseball, like Bill for real,
Speaker 1: that that was actually happening. Korean baseball was the only
Speaker 1: thing going on. But how how they gonna do that?
Speaker 1: Like they gotta we won't watch it from home. You
Speaker 1: can't go to the games that they doing that. What
Speaker 1: are we talking about the NBA or Korean baseball? Just
Speaker 1: sports in general? Yeah. The bubble. They got the bubble popping. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm all the way out the loop. What the hell
Speaker 1: is the bubble? Really? Yeah? We can't go watch them?
Speaker 1: Yeah on TV. Oh, but you can't be at the
Speaker 1: game of course. Not that's weird. They got the bubble
Speaker 1: in Orlando, so everybody is in uh a contained space
Speaker 1: in Orlando Disney World. So they have all yeah, every team,
Speaker 1: twenty two teams, the other teams that did. They just
Speaker 1: didn't make it, but all the games are going to
Speaker 1: be played there and they can't leave, Like like okay,
Speaker 1: Lou Williams left for family reasons, and then they found
Speaker 1: him at he was in Magic City two nights ago
Speaker 1: in Atlanta eating hot wings with Jack Harlowe. So now
Speaker 1: he's got a quarantine for like ten days before you
Speaker 1: can go join the Clippers again. The Clippers are trying
Speaker 1: to win a fucking ring and Lou Williams is eating
Speaker 1: hot wings in a magic City. It's crazy. But and
Speaker 1: then like there was like some you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, dudes, are gonna try to sneak there.
Speaker 1: We're talking NBA players here. They're gonna try to sneak
Speaker 1: the bitches on into the bubble. Some some known Instagram's
Speaker 1: thought here in La was posting pictures inside of the
Speaker 1: bubble and Instagram Instagram by like like point of Elimination
Speaker 1: found the only NBA player that was following her and
Speaker 1: realized that's who she was there to see. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah, basketball is a wild Well I was
Speaker 1: gonna ask you, like, what are you? I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't even know what's going on. I was lost with
Speaker 1: that one. And you know what, I kind of heard
Speaker 1: something about that my boy Brick Brick was telling me
Speaker 1: about that. But how they can't leave. Yeah, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: like a camp for some ship. They can't straight up,
Speaker 1: that's crazy, super crazy. Yeah, the bubbles. Uh, we were
Speaker 1: talking off off off camera. You were telling me, Benny
Speaker 1: the Butcher's on Karra three, shout the Benny shout Old
Speaker 1: Griselda Conway, what's not gonna with them? Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, like, I do feel like there's, you know,
Speaker 1: a small group of artists and you're in that group
Speaker 1: that I've kind of kept this rap shit alive for,
Speaker 1: you know, for for guys like me, for people who
Speaker 1: really appreciate bars and that grimy ship. And I feel
Speaker 1: like Griselda has you know, Griselda shout out to Freddy
Speaker 1: Gibbs and mad Lib and you know, there's just been
Speaker 1: a lot of dope shit going on in hip hop
Speaker 1: the last few years. But I do feel like it's
Speaker 1: starting to become like all the weirdo internet ship is
Speaker 1: starting to die out and it's getting back a little bit. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, like Griselda got nominated for Best Group of
Speaker 1: the Year to be a TA Awards, which is crazy.
Speaker 1: So they're paying attention to what people saying again, and
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's it's great for you because
Speaker 1: you've you know, you've always done that. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I think you've dabbled in some more radio
Speaker 1: type ship over the last few years, obvious, but you've
Speaker 1: never left your sound. And I never was in this
Speaker 1: ship for the Cloud or nothing like that. I feel
Speaker 1: like that was the wave for the last like five years.
Speaker 1: Like this cloud. It's the worst ever you could do
Speaker 1: to get something right, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I just now all these guys are falling off.
Speaker 1: J Cole said the best right about little pumping those
Speaker 1: guys and now these like and and now what happened
Speaker 1: like smoke purpose five thousand units at it. You can
Speaker 1: get in this ship make enough money to even if
Speaker 1: you if you're smart with your money, if you're smart,
Speaker 1: if you get it, even if your ship is some
Speaker 1: trash year those bags sad with that brand, these motherfuckers
Speaker 1: buying lean and and all kind of crazy ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I focused on the music. Man that the ship that
Speaker 1: got me got me here, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: The music what is obviously working with Benny on the project.
Speaker 1: Who else is on Carmen three? Uh? I got a
Speaker 1: Popcorn on there record with Popcorn, I got Mary J.
Speaker 1: Bligh ship and Mary got a joint Trey songs. Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Trying to think who was rapping on dough. I got
Speaker 1: Dope Boy on there. We just shot the video matter
Speaker 1: of fact, a couple of days ago out here. Think
Speaker 1: you know the expectations for that Merry record as gonna
Speaker 1: be crazy since you played method man, it's one of them.
Speaker 1: But you played mathe Man in the in the show
Speaker 1: on you know what I'm saying, saying, yeah the whole
Speaker 1: yeahbody from Wu Tang on the on the project. Nah,
Speaker 1: I ain't not this one, not this one. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Me and Meth got a new record though static selective Static.
Speaker 1: Is that guy in Meth going crazy on that ship.
Speaker 1: He got to put that out though, status a static record.
Speaker 1: Static got the record, Yeah, yo, Static man. I just
Speaker 1: want to give some props to him because he's like
Speaker 1: our modern day primo bro and he's been one thing
Speaker 1: I could salute, salute the status. He's from day one,
Speaker 1: always been like the same way with me, like before
Speaker 1: the na situation. He was always in tune with me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the static. I just saw
Speaker 1: you were shooting a video of Jstone. Yeah, we're doing
Speaker 1: another one today. I'm locking in. We're putting a little
Speaker 1: little little project, little a little ep, you know, because
Speaker 1: you know me, and it was gonna do on, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Guarantee we was was already talking
Speaker 1: about that. So I'm gonna do I'm doing. Yeah. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Stone man. I think I think you know
Speaker 1: he was always like slept on for sure, and Stone
Speaker 1: are good, just a good, good nigga, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I just just vibe like we uh
Speaker 1: we vibe good, you know what I mean. And the
Speaker 1: and the music, y'all hear the music. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: just just trying to knock out. How many records you
Speaker 1: guys got that right now? I think we maybe like
Speaker 1: three or four, three or four in. We shot the
Speaker 1: video the other day, uh in his hood, and then
Speaker 1: we shoot him one today. You you and Nipsey were
Speaker 1: supposed to do a project. I remember we talked about
Speaker 1: that before. Did you guys have any music that you
Speaker 1: that that's just sitting on a hard drive somewhere that
Speaker 1: y'all never released. How many unreleased songs do you think
Speaker 1: you got? Nick? Maybe three? It's one with me and
Speaker 1: him and being on whover put out with being overdel
Speaker 1: being on Calma three two that was another shout out
Speaker 1: to Beano Bino's Fire by jam Uh and then me
Speaker 1: and him got two two joints. I had one record
Speaker 1: that I was gonna put on Calmba three. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, like, is it is it?
Speaker 1: Obviously you're tight with his team, but like, is it
Speaker 1: like kind of weird putting something out with your like
Speaker 1: with him after he passed. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I feel like super weird, Like the the the excitement
Speaker 1: is going behind it. I'm still excited to do it,
Speaker 1: and you know, let it be known that we did
Speaker 1: that and created that. But the phone call because red
Speaker 1: a job, like, oh that's going you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: so it's it's definitely weird. You. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people have always kind of said, you're kind of
Speaker 1: like what Nip is to what Nip was to La,
Speaker 1: to your hood, to Harlem, right to to like New York.
Speaker 1: Somebody who is like a man of the people. Somebody
Speaker 1: who's never really damn, I got my ring tone on
Speaker 1: un professional, but somebody who uh who? You know, when
Speaker 1: I think of Davies, I never ever ever thought of
Speaker 1: goofy ship or I think of integrity. I think of
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to music, when it just
Speaker 1: comes to you as a person, like what was you know?
Speaker 1: Obviously you know you've done a ton of interviews since
Speaker 1: Nipsey past, but we're going on a year and a
Speaker 1: half since he died. What is the one thing you
Speaker 1: think since he passed that you've carried with you and
Speaker 1: that you're like, like from nip to this day because
Speaker 1: you know, shit, man, I can't even believe it's been
Speaker 1: a year and a half. I would say, just his
Speaker 1: model marathon, you know what I'm saying, Like the shitty
Speaker 1: lived by the shit. He always said, don't stop, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, no matter what what come
Speaker 1: your way, you gotta keep keep rolling, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. In the fact of ownership and turning your
Speaker 1: brand into a business and and just being more than
Speaker 1: a rapper, you know what I mean. So that's what
Speaker 1: really stuck with me the most, and just trying to
Speaker 1: build my brand from just being Dave East, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean to where that shit being something else.
Speaker 1: I want to build an empire. Have you been dabbling in,
Speaker 1: like getting involved in other like avenues, like like other
Speaker 1: streams of revenue coming in outside of music. Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 1: I've been heavy on the designer to I just I
Speaker 1: just dropped a pair of glasses, did a collabe with
Speaker 1: a company called New Vintage. I got the clover line
Speaker 1: on the way. Besides from the merch I'm doing for
Speaker 1: the Coma three, So I got my own line coming.
Speaker 1: I'm about to drop a cognac based like a liquor Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a but not but it's gonna be like a
Speaker 1: like almost like a soda almost like it's not something
Speaker 1: that you ain't gonna be taking shots of it, like
Speaker 1: you could say. So it's like a pre mixed drink
Speaker 1: like yeah, but it's gonna be a coonnac base. So
Speaker 1: when you pull up to the liquor store, it'll be
Speaker 1: already be in the fridge like you just crack it open. Okay.
Speaker 1: So I've just been trying to, you know, use my
Speaker 1: brand and what I done got my name to to
Speaker 1: just jump into other avenues, you know, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: other avenues I can make money off of, and you know,
Speaker 1: just build that future for my daughter, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, for my team without me rapping, like the
Speaker 1: rap won't do what to do? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then the rap got me into acting, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean sort of the rap has shown me what
Speaker 1: it could do, but now I want to see what me,
Speaker 1: being a more of an entrepreneur could do acting wise.
Speaker 1: Obviously the Hulu shit was fire, but what else I know?
Speaker 1: I know you watched, yeah, me and my I finally
Speaker 1: got my wife to watch it, but she I told
Speaker 1: her with some Wu Tang ship and I tried to
Speaker 1: get her to watch, you know, the Wu Tang documentary
Speaker 1: that came out on Showtime show. My wife don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck about Wu Tang clan, right, so I put
Speaker 1: it on and it's a documentary. This was like what
Speaker 1: you know? And she just left the room. She's like,
Speaker 1: you could watch that's what the actual I'm gonna go upstairs, right,
Speaker 1: she don't give a fuck about Wu Tang. But I
Speaker 1: put the show on and I didn't tell her it
Speaker 1: was about Wu Tang until about thirty minutes in and
Speaker 1: she was like, Oh, this is good. It's just a
Speaker 1: TV show, so yeah, I like how they set that
Speaker 1: up though they make you know, I mean you got
Speaker 1: to watch it really and even like I didn't even
Speaker 1: know like a lot of the stuff, like like like
Speaker 1: and then also just had I had to figure out
Speaker 1: everyone else. I was like, because because they're not just
Speaker 1: like the actual like everyone's names are different than the show.
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, who the fuck is this guy?
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew you were method man obviously, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was good man. But are
Speaker 1: there other acting roles or have you you have any
Speaker 1: other things coming out? Because I know that I'm sure
Speaker 1: that the entertainment game in general is on hold. We're
Speaker 1: supposed to have been doing season two already. I mean,
Speaker 1: but the Pandemic, you guys are supposed already start shooting it.
Speaker 1: Huh damn, You're gonna have to start doing these acting
Speaker 1: bubbles like the you know, like because when you think
Speaker 1: about it, so many people on a set, so many people.
Speaker 1: There's so many people on a set, So I don't see,
Speaker 1: I don't I can't in the future even see when
Speaker 1: that's gonna be free to do again. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, even shows I sold anything on TV. You
Speaker 1: watch movies, concerts, like, shout out to all the Southern
Speaker 1: rappers who don't give a fuck right now because they're
Speaker 1: still running around getting bags in the South. Some of
Speaker 1: these cities in the South do not care. Get your money,
Speaker 1: put your masks on. We'll get your rod wave out
Speaker 1: here getting it right now. I'm like, bro, what random
Speaker 1: city in Georgia is he doing? Go get your money?
Speaker 1: Did you see Boozy hosting the pool party? I ever
Speaker 1: see that? Oh my god, you know what it is.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, it's as many cases that
Speaker 1: have been proven, it's one hundred percent believable. What's going on?
Speaker 1: I had it just so you know, yeah I had it.
Speaker 1: Me and my wife got it. Well you know why,
Speaker 1: because I was a stupid ass. I went back to
Speaker 1: Scott Stale and yeah, I just couldn't smell her taste, damn,
Speaker 1: like like like legit. I thought I was tripping. And
Speaker 1: you know, my my my dog's got a little puppy
Speaker 1: pad and he took a ship and I was like, yo, fam,
Speaker 1: I'm ana smell. I'm a good down on the floor
Speaker 1: take away for this dog ship and see if I
Speaker 1: just smell nothing, did the fuck what you're breathing at all? No.
Speaker 1: Towards the end, when I was starting to kick it,
Speaker 1: there was like a forty eight hour period where I
Speaker 1: just was fatigued. When I got through that and then
Speaker 1: I you know, my smell was coming back, and then
Speaker 1: I went and got doubled. You know, I got two
Speaker 1: negative tests results in a row. And yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: no I could. I mean I also asked for I
Speaker 1: literally went into a club full of people in Scottsdale,
Speaker 1: scott Still for a while, Arizona did not give a either.
Speaker 1: You went to club See, that's what they could do
Speaker 1: New York like like a no clubs all that's here's
Speaker 1: the thing is And not everybody's on the block again.
Speaker 1: It's block parties, cookouts, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 1: the new ship, people getting the Airbnb just throwing parties.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like, do you get into the conspiracy
Speaker 1: aspect of like ship, like not even just COVID, but
Speaker 1: just in general, do you like I think it's something else?
Speaker 1: Beh honest, I don't think this is like I feel
Speaker 1: like this is all like it's something else going on,
Speaker 1: Like what I have no idea we never know. It's
Speaker 1: like they always do some ship, then some other shit happened,
Speaker 1: like oh, you know what I mean, because if you
Speaker 1: think about it, this is my opinion. When all the protesting,
Speaker 1: what's going on? God bless the dead George Floyd. When
Speaker 1: all that happened and everybody was protesting, nobody, you didn't
Speaker 1: see nothing about heard the word COVID one hundred at
Speaker 1: least a month straight and I even heard the word.
Speaker 1: And there's people, some people everywhere protesting. Police was packed
Speaker 1: a hundred cops everywhere, Like so then you know that
Speaker 1: dies that died down, and then and then they're saying
Speaker 1: all these cities cases that went up. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, They're still protesting, it's just not on the
Speaker 1: news the hype around it and died down unless it's
Speaker 1: some wild violent crazy like Portland that's on the news.
Speaker 1: Because in Portland is crazy going down, Like anyway it's
Speaker 1: going down. To show you that Seattle, Seattle they had
Speaker 1: that little area, did you like, did Seattle they had
Speaker 1: like a little the protesters. My little brother live out there.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, there was a ship called the
Speaker 1: Chats Zone and they shut it off from police like
Speaker 1: a whole area of Capitol Hill and it was like
Speaker 1: you couldn't go in and out unless it was wild.
Speaker 1: That's going down. They said that they you know that
Speaker 1: that flame is set, so it's on. But if it
Speaker 1: ain't going, if it ain't like something, they don't want
Speaker 1: you to feel like they need this show, they ain't
Speaker 1: gonna show you. Well, they ship. They just admitted the
Speaker 1: Pentagon just admitted the UFOs are real. It was in
Speaker 1: Washington Times this week. Yeah, they knew. I hadn't seen
Speaker 1: alien the two with my motherfucking life. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, obviously outside of Custy's. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I know how to see some ship
Speaker 1: like for Men in Black Men and that ship. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they admitted the aliens and all that shit. Have you ever? Uh,
Speaker 1: they probably know them. I know you you the last
Speaker 1: time we talked to you. Oh yeah, God, I think
Speaker 1: they got aliens at work, probably definitely on, probably in
Speaker 1: contact with I wouldn't put that past none of that
Speaker 1: government ship. They got aliens of work, bro, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: they got motherfuckers that work for the government. Every what
Speaker 1: do you think every fifty one is these motherfuckers live
Speaker 1: on base bru crazy. It's I'm telling you, we go
Speaker 1: see that. They're just preparing us slowly. I think if
Speaker 1: Trump loses, before he loses, he's just gonna fuck everyone's
Speaker 1: life up and be like, guess what aliens are real?
Speaker 1: I'm out you gonna tell them to pop out? All right,
Speaker 1: y'all can pull up now? Yeah, pull up? Fuck this
Speaker 1: ship I lost lost. There's gonna be a bunch of
Speaker 1: aliens come through this. Uh, Dave, I'm curious. I know
Speaker 1: the last time we talked, we were talking about it
Speaker 1: was either your the lean ship or you had about
Speaker 1: with pills where you said your your your thing wasn't
Speaker 1: working up to speed. It went viral. Yeah, yeah, this
Speaker 1: amp ship. I'm curious. Drug wise, Uh, have you ever
Speaker 1: tried any hallucinogenics, like any mushrooms or d m T.
Speaker 1: You've done shrooms? Like? How was like? You did it twice?
Speaker 1: What we were what were you experiences? Like? Uh? I
Speaker 1: had I had two good trips. I never had a
Speaker 1: bad trip, so both of them was cool. But it
Speaker 1: was like, uh, I felt the first time I did it,
Speaker 1: I felt too high and I couldn't go to sleep.
Speaker 1: I was trying to like, you know, you try to
Speaker 1: sleep some ship off, I couldn't go to sleep. Usually
Speaker 1: when you eat stuff, you can't sleep it off. I
Speaker 1: couldn't sleep, So that had me. That was the only
Speaker 1: part of the ship had me Panican like, y'all can't
Speaker 1: go to sleep. But I was cool. And then the
Speaker 1: second time I did it, I was like, did you
Speaker 1: see some ship? Like I feel like some people like
Speaker 1: they say, what you just colors, that's the that's the
Speaker 1: only thing like a lot of people have, they say
Speaker 1: they all the walls was mel I ain't see all
Speaker 1: that ship that color. That might have bugged me up.
Speaker 1: But the colors like all of like like in this room.
Speaker 1: If I did that ship in here, all these colors
Speaker 1: would have like did something, would like glare more like.
Speaker 1: That's all that ship did to me. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I ain't see no elephants or wasn't no midges running
Speaker 1: out the room. You gotta go out to Joshua Tree
Speaker 1: and you gotta do d MT. Man, is DMT that ship?
Speaker 1: See you fear pressure man? You hear about a bread
Speaker 1: some bread new ship last fifteen minutes, it's it's uh,
Speaker 1: that's some Jim that's some Jimmy Hendrick shit. It's the dyametic.
Speaker 1: What is it? Yeah, yeah, in your brain when you
Speaker 1: were born and when you die, this chemical gets released
Speaker 1: d MT, right, and there's a toad that sweats it naturally,
Speaker 1: so motherfuckers will take and you you it's really some
Speaker 1: crackhead shit, low key right, So you free based no no, no,
Speaker 1: but it's like you're not smoking crack, but you are
Speaker 1: free basing DMT for sure off a toad, off of
Speaker 1: a toad's yeah, you put it on, like yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's wild. But like it's like fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: of like you just leave the you leave earth for
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes and then fifteen minutes later you come back
Speaker 1: and your life might be changed. Hey we gotta get
Speaker 1: some DMT. Bro, let's do. Hey, look I'm down. Next
Speaker 1: time you're in LA, we'll get aj turns up over
Speaker 1: there and listen. What's the long term effects of that? Nothing? Nothing? Nothing.
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson's whole life is changed because of DMT. You know.
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson's like, you know, back on his ship because
Speaker 1: of d MT. He smokes the toad man with him
Speaker 1: and Roy Jones, I don't know. Honestly, I'm not. I'll
Speaker 1: say this. I I haven't paid a lot of attention
Speaker 1: to what Roy Jones's got going on, but Mike Tyson
Speaker 1: looked like I got Tyson, no disrespect to Roy. I
Speaker 1: got Tyson knocking him the fun out Me too, bro,
Speaker 1: knocking him the fuck out the fuck out, like the
Speaker 1: fuck out. Because if you think about it, even if
Speaker 1: you were to take them both at their peaks, Tyson
Speaker 1: is a heavyweight. Bro is still on. He's a heavyweight
Speaker 1: like Roy Jones was never I mean I think he
Speaker 1: I think towards the end of his career he dabbled
Speaker 1: in the heavyweight division. I always loved his style when
Speaker 1: I was a kid because he was Tyson. And then
Speaker 1: you just see the way Tyson is being looking Bro,
Speaker 1: I ain't. I don't know, Bro, I think Tyson is
Speaker 1: going to take that. Dude's who you got, Nate Robinson
Speaker 1: or Jake Paul that's the undercard, the YouTube kid or
Speaker 1: Nate Robinson who used to play for the Bulls and
Speaker 1: the Knicks. Yes, so Nate Robinson. Do you remember Nate
Speaker 1: Robinson n W the Dunk Contest. So he's fighting the
Speaker 1: YouTuber Jake Paul. I'm not familiar with the YouTuber. He's
Speaker 1: this little white dude. He's a little uh and they
Speaker 1: and they boxing the boxes and he's boxing that and
Speaker 1: that's the undercalled or the Tyson and Roy Jones fight. Yes,
Speaker 1: crazy world we're living in, right, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: Nate ro I don't know about the YouTube. You gotta
Speaker 1: go and Nate Robinson looks like a like a miniature
Speaker 1: fifty cent Nate Robins. I think you we was like
Speaker 1: five foot eight or some ship winning dunk contest. Shout
Speaker 1: out to day Robinson. Are you Are you still sucking
Speaker 1: with the Knicks at this point in life? I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on with them. I respect that, man.
Speaker 1: It must be nice to not know what's going on
Speaker 1: with sports. I don't know what's going on with I
Speaker 1: wish my bank account wishes that I didn't know what
Speaker 1: was going on with sports. For sure, you didn't get twist.
Speaker 1: Nobody got advice though, Yeah I don't. I'll say this.
Speaker 1: I'm not an alcoholic. I'm not a drug addict. I
Speaker 1: do enjoy gambling like weed. Weed, a solid, good, good weed,
Speaker 1: California weed. Do you think there's such thing as because
Speaker 1: you know how like people say, you can't fuck up pizza.
Speaker 1: Is bad weed? Even good weed just because it's weed.
Speaker 1: That was that was like a doctor Shou's question, say that,
Speaker 1: will ask me that. So it's bad weed. It's bad
Speaker 1: weed good anyway, just because it's just weed, or is
Speaker 1: there bad it is bad? We just like, oh no,
Speaker 1: there's horrible weed. That's like no point in even smoking,
Speaker 1: Like why would you bring this to me? Is weed?
Speaker 1: Like but will it get you high? No? So the
Speaker 1: horrible weed won't okay, not if you've been smoking great weed, Like,
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna do nothing for you at all because
Speaker 1: I know some people. So there's we that's crazy. Feel
Speaker 1: it's just gonna. It's just gonna. When's the last time
Speaker 1: let me ask you something. You're obviously in different cities
Speaker 1: all the time, and it's hard to like you pull
Speaker 1: up to a random city, Oh, I bring my weed
Speaker 1: with me. You breathe the weed unless I come to
Speaker 1: l All because yeah, because you can just go to
Speaker 1: the store. It's the only place in the world where
Speaker 1: I won't bring weed anywhere else I go. I'm bringing
Speaker 1: weed because it's not gonna be guaranteed. I run into
Speaker 1: some good weed. What is the best way to fly
Speaker 1: with weed outside of Yeah, I know, Whiz used to
Speaker 1: stuff it in like theodoran sticks. Like you would just
Speaker 1: gut the odorance, make a big I would get caught.
Speaker 1: I mean you just totally like, I mean, no, I
Speaker 1: just pack it. You know, the regulation has changed flying
Speaker 1: out of lax, well out of lax. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: let's say you're going to Birmingham, Alabama. Uh, they don't
Speaker 1: be on you like that. It's about how you move
Speaker 1: into like you know you you do it in the
Speaker 1: carry on or the check it. Yeah, you gotta check
Speaker 1: it right walk through. I don't I'll be nervous to
Speaker 1: walk through the ship with But of course I check
Speaker 1: the fucking dogs everywhere. But you know what I learned
Speaker 1: them dogs is not sniffing for weed. No they're not.
Speaker 1: They don't care. They're sniffing for bombs. Drove me fucking nervous.
Speaker 1: Like yo, that dog does not give a fuck if
Speaker 1: you got weed. That dog gives the fuck if you
Speaker 1: got force blunt on the way to the airport, I
Speaker 1: got a whole fucking half a bud in the bag
Speaker 1: and he got this big ass dog right here He
Speaker 1: just cares if you got a bomb. That's all he
Speaker 1: cares about. Didn't even pay me no mind. That said,
Speaker 1: I'm good. Damn. What is the timeline for you and Jaystone? Ship? Uh?
Speaker 1: Ship whenever that ships done? Because Karma three's coming out
Speaker 1: August fourteen, fourteen. And then I got I got Calmer
Speaker 1: three fourteen. Me and Statish Pete doing beloved too. We
Speaker 1: about to do that again. You bring that back around.
Speaker 1: That was that was too fun. Stouts PI had a
Speaker 1: very underrated twenty nineteen. You know, he put out a
Speaker 1: lot of quality hip hop last year. That's my guy
Speaker 1: right there, that's big bro. Hey, we got to take
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Speaker 1: August fourteenth, Beloved two and then a Jstone project and
Speaker 1: I'm doing one with Mary Mary Jake doing the album,
Speaker 1: a whole Mary J Blige album. Yeah wow, yeah, like
Speaker 1: maybe three or four records right now. Talk about that
Speaker 1: chemistry because Mary is a legend. So I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: I mean just to do one song where it would
Speaker 1: be amazing insane, But no, that's you know what, that's
Speaker 1: one of them, like you such a fan of somebody,
Speaker 1: or you didn't grew up on somebody in music, or
Speaker 1: you've been just you know, chun thing in them so long.
Speaker 1: It's fire. Like you know what I'm saying, Like it
Speaker 1: just put me in another zone, knowing who I'm working with,
Speaker 1: knowing the legacy she already got in the fact that
Speaker 1: she even got to bring bring out that that reasonable
Speaker 1: doubt on the one bad boy Mary, when you hear
Speaker 1: that you're going she she on Mary on some shit.
Speaker 1: You were just shooting a video in LA and what
Speaker 1: I thought was amazing. I just scrolling on Instagram. It
Speaker 1: was a picture of you and J Coles and I
Speaker 1: was like, cool, Yeah, that was fire. Shouts to J Cole.
Speaker 1: It was that the first time you guys met in
Speaker 1: my life. He like my respect level for him without
Speaker 1: already like you know, from a far, saluted up everything
Speaker 1: he'd do. Big fan of his music. But I would
Speaker 1: shoot a video on Sunday he was driving Bob randomly
Speaker 1: saw me and pulled over, hopped out. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was gangst a lot of people. I
Speaker 1: know it would have been just like over up boy
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, and kept it pushing.
Speaker 1: He hopped out. We exchanged numbers, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was a combo man. He just like I thought
Speaker 1: he would have been man cool. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I just told me I've didn't want to get with you,
Speaker 1: big fan of your work, said Boomerang. Well he stopped
Speaker 1: too because he saw you, so he must be a
Speaker 1: fan of your When I was dope, like I said,
Speaker 1: I never met him before. We never DMD never. That
Speaker 1: was one hip hop connection I didn't have. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean is have you ever previously tried to
Speaker 1: reach out to Cole or anything? I feel like musically
Speaker 1: you guys would mesh so well. Nah, not not not
Speaker 1: personally or direct. I was working with y Cleff maybe
Speaker 1: four years three or four years ago, and I know
Speaker 1: cleft no one, and I mean we spoke about it
Speaker 1: right and never never put it together. But honestly with me,
Speaker 1: I like, when ship like that happened, rather than somebody
Speaker 1: connecting it just letting having that ship, I'd rather just
Speaker 1: meet you or we just be at the same place,
Speaker 1: same time, and then naturally you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That was dope. Yeah, that's fire. And then did with
Speaker 1: DMX was there too. As soon as j Cole pulled off,
Speaker 1: DMX hopped out. I said, damn, this is the same corner.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the corner of the bill. This
Speaker 1: is the corner. Shout out to DMX, man, GMx got
Speaker 1: that dad boy popping right now? That's the X. How
Speaker 1: was that the I mean, I'm assuming have you linked
Speaker 1: with X X lock locked? Then I met actually met
Speaker 1: X with Swiss Swiss Beats back in New York. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been around X a few times. X man cool.
Speaker 1: I saw GMx is I think he's working on on
Speaker 1: the album right now. You watched the verses whatever Snoop? Yeah, though, man,
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have put X against Snoop. That was good
Speaker 1: for the coach, it was. It was I think some
Speaker 1: of those battles, it's like it doesn't matter who wins,
Speaker 1: like Riser Verse Primo, it didn't matter who won. It
Speaker 1: was like, yo, it's Riserverse Primo. Like you just want
Speaker 1: to watch, just enjoy, Like who gives a fuck? Who
Speaker 1: will to watch it? Yeah? They're talking like I think
Speaker 1: the next the Rick Ross two chains one just got
Speaker 1: locked in, which would be crazy change. Yeah, Swiss Chains
Speaker 1: got some records. I think. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people will say Ross, but I think you got Just
Speaker 1: when you just said that, I thought about it, Change
Speaker 1: got some. Of course, I've already thought about it. I've
Speaker 1: already thought in my head when he was boy, who
Speaker 1: could beat two change change joints? Think about all the
Speaker 1: features though nice feature game is a feature run was
Speaker 1: crazy crazy? Yeah, that'll be wild, like I might have.
Speaker 1: He might have the meanest feature run in hip hop history,
Speaker 1: either him or Wayne. Wayne had that run to like
Speaker 1: always crazy. But I think it's changed. Change was on everything, everything, body, mercy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's gonna be a good one.
Speaker 1: I I saw you saw Juicy J challenge your man
Speaker 1: Nods to a versus battle Uns. No, I mean it's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen because that'd be ridiculous. I don't No,
Speaker 1: I don't see it either. That's a wild thing to do.
Speaker 1: If you're Juicy J to challenge nas. Come on, bro,
Speaker 1: but who do you I mean obviously besides jay Z?
Speaker 1: Like who if you if you had to. You know,
Speaker 1: you have a close relationship with nas, Like, who do
Speaker 1: you think would be a dope opponent to see to
Speaker 1: battle him? Uh mm hmm, that's coold. Damn, that's tough.
Speaker 1: I almost feel like it would have it would have
Speaker 1: to be him, I was to say it, it almost
Speaker 1: have to be him in hope or somebody like would yeah,
Speaker 1: or someone like Snooper d m X one of those
Speaker 1: like yeah, like like anas and and Snoops ing would
Speaker 1: have been dope. I would have been dope. Uh I
Speaker 1: think yeah, I would say, oh, bro, it would have
Speaker 1: to be that would be that would be the most
Speaker 1: that would make the most sense to me for them
Speaker 1: to do, because that's who's that always been that rivalry. Hey,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, Dave. You're a stellar MC,
Speaker 1: You're one of the jedis. What song did you get
Speaker 1: back from somebody who sent you a feature that made
Speaker 1: you either a want to change your verse, change your verse,
Speaker 1: or be like, you know what, I'm just gonna have
Speaker 1: to hold the l on this song if ever? Uh
Speaker 1: uh Forbes list, Okay, the first record I deal with, YEP,
Speaker 1: that was a crazy record. I wanted to change my verse,
Speaker 1: but I just say, you know what, I'm a rock
Speaker 1: because you know what it is with me. I like
Speaker 1: respect the the sport, you know what I mean? So like,
Speaker 1: if that's the verse you laid, that's the verse you laid, Like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, let's we if we do
Speaker 1: it together, we do it together. But I have I
Speaker 1: did that verse is probably to him recording it, and
Speaker 1: then he sent that back and I was like, did
Speaker 1: you know that NAS was gonna get on it when
Speaker 1: I told me no, when I laid my part. No, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, That's what I'm saying. If you would have
Speaker 1: if you would have known that, then I probably would
Speaker 1: have did a whole another verse. But that was just,
Speaker 1: you know, that was what he picked. And then he
Speaker 1: was like, it was up with that. I'm playing the records,
Speaker 1: he said, So with that one, I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: and he burnt that ship. He was crazy. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh man, but I'm like, you know what is NAS? Like?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, let me ask you something.
Speaker 1: There's a what I'm gonna do. There's a big I
Speaker 1: feel like there's a big community of people who think
Speaker 1: it was written. Is NAS's best album that I've been
Speaker 1: seeing come to the forefront. Lightly, I'm an nomadic guy. What,
Speaker 1: in your opinion, is Nas' best album? It was written?
Speaker 1: Okay to me that that's more my my time, you know,
Speaker 1: Ellmatic Affirmative Action is one of my favorite NS workers ever. Yeah, crazy,
Speaker 1: like a Z kicked that bitch off something crazy, crazy,
Speaker 1: just that whole beat selection on that see they talk
Speaker 1: about beats, the message it was written. You're talking about
Speaker 1: beat selection. I think the beat selection. I just think
Speaker 1: the beat selection portion of career started like after later later,
Speaker 1: because you listen to God's Son and the beats are
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. But like hip hop is dead, there was
Speaker 1: a few that you were like, okay, well, like you
Speaker 1: know what you know? Yeah, but I would say it
Speaker 1: was written. I do think who do you think is
Speaker 1: got the best of ear for beats? If we're talking,
Speaker 1: I think Ross my opinion, Ross got one of the
Speaker 1: hardest for beats. Ross got a good ear for beats.
Speaker 1: Uh kids got a good ear for beats. To kiss
Speaker 1: Jada definitely got a good I think who else? Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: I fel like Weeze always had a good head for
Speaker 1: beach to Wayne for sure. Have you ever considered something
Speaker 1: that I think that's been dope lately is artists doing
Speaker 1: full projects with producers, right, So, like Freddy did Mad
Speaker 1: Live Shit, then he did the Alchemist project. Conray did
Speaker 1: a whole project with Alchemists. I think it'd be super
Speaker 1: dope to just hear you do just lock in with
Speaker 1: one producer cohesive album. Is that something you've ever considered?
Speaker 1: You know? It's crazy with that. I got like maybe
Speaker 1: three of those in the works right now, Like I
Speaker 1: just sain't like all the way like got in that
Speaker 1: bag just because of the other music I'm working on.
Speaker 1: But Shouston, Mike and Keys, we're doing the project just
Speaker 1: they producing the whole thing. They actually did Handsome and
Speaker 1: Minutes off Coma three. I linked up with them through
Speaker 1: nep yep uh a Rap Music. We got maybe seven records.
Speaker 1: It's just straight a rap, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And Booting Grants that's my home team. He did and
Speaker 1: work doing all my ship for years. So I was
Speaker 1: gonna say I would like three, maybe three different tapes.
Speaker 1: I think, Yo, you gotta like, I would just love
Speaker 1: to hear you lock in just with like just nothing
Speaker 1: but just you know, Razor blades on Ikea fucking plates
Speaker 1: leads I key or like maybe like no, who ain't
Speaker 1: got with yet that I'm down to get with out.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I was gonna say an Alchemist project,
Speaker 1: but I've been not like even I've been in tune
Speaker 1: with them tape like I love them tapes Action Bronson
Speaker 1: was doing with him, Oh my god, you know, like
Speaker 1: all them tapes is because just the way he put
Speaker 1: a project together. Action was really good at working with
Speaker 1: whole producers because he would do some ship with party
Speaker 1: supplies or yeah, actual producer and like, yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know what it is with me, I feel like that
Speaker 1: would that would make an ill sound just because I've
Speaker 1: always had three beats from this producer, two beats from
Speaker 1: this producer from this, but like there's always been a mixture,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's definitely something I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. That's something I'm working on now, but that's
Speaker 1: coming up. Do you have a relationship with Alchemists? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yea be big Man was my guy.
Speaker 1: Have you and Primo ever worked together? Yea, Primo's on
Speaker 1: the inshore of Survival? Oh that's right that we talked
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, but he didn't do the beat right,
Speaker 1: he just did did the scratching. But we got some
Speaker 1: We got Me and Primo I think got two records
Speaker 1: because I went to his studio to actually do a
Speaker 1: record for Survival and we laid that. But then once
Speaker 1: I got the record and the rest of the songs
Speaker 1: for the album, it didn't mess. But yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: big broh. Yeah, when you like, uh, when it's a
Speaker 1: premo beat, do you feel the same type of expectations
Speaker 1: as like as as as if you know it's like
Speaker 1: you're getting on the record with nas exactly same. Like
Speaker 1: That's what I feel like made me push my pen
Speaker 1: earlier in my career. I mean like once I got
Speaker 1: people knew about me, Like I was working with certain people,
Speaker 1: I was like, I got the rap, I got the
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I got to come with it.
Speaker 1: Each time I'm being heard, I gotta come with it.
Speaker 1: So definitely with certain producers, like I grew up through
Speaker 1: all of that. These this is all people that I
Speaker 1: was reading in the Source magazine and always read you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So now when they fancy me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and they letting me know
Speaker 1: that what I'm doing is dope. I got to try
Speaker 1: to like exceed that expectation like even more, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean I was. I just saw something online. They
Speaker 1: were talking about how most rappers don't write down anything anymore,
Speaker 1: and that I think it was I might have been
Speaker 1: on on Everyday Struggle. Wayna was talking like how like
Speaker 1: those books, like a lot of people's rhyme books one
Speaker 1: day are going to be auctioned. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Do you keep your rhyme books together? Do you even
Speaker 1: write anymore? Like what's your process when it comes to
Speaker 1: like writing, haven't wrote nine down since belove it. So
Speaker 1: when you're recording, do you do you punch in or
Speaker 1: you already got the verse? Like like you go line
Speaker 1: by line? Depends. Sometimes I punch like line by line
Speaker 1: or sometimes I have the vine. I have that shit
Speaker 1: in my head, I mean, and then I'll even if
Speaker 1: I got the whole rhyme, I might do like eight
Speaker 1: me that didn't do the next eight, like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But the writing down, I stopped writing
Speaker 1: working with styles when me and Stass beloved that made
Speaker 1: me put my pen up. I stopped. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll still jot ship down on my phone, certain little
Speaker 1: clever little lines and balls, so I can remember it well.
Speaker 1: I say it in my voice. Don't save it? Was
Speaker 1: that because styles is like that? Or don't you don't
Speaker 1: write nothing. So I'm sitting there watching that. I'm in
Speaker 1: the boot. I'm in the in the little area with
Speaker 1: my man days with the engineerl Pools. I'm writing the ship.
Speaker 1: He's just walking around. He cut all the lights of
Speaker 1: he's smoking, he's walking around, beat knocking, he's going to
Speaker 1: move spitch twelve straight. Wait, So I gotta now, I
Speaker 1: gotta challenge myself now. But that made me just get sharper.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He was and me listening
Speaker 1: to my own music. You know, even if you don't
Speaker 1: feel like you're reading it, you're reading it. You're right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you don't, if you
Speaker 1: if you don't remember that, even if you write it down,
Speaker 1: you should still memorize it before you go record it,
Speaker 1: because if you holding it here, you you still reading it.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, regardless how you feel. So
Speaker 1: I just got more emotion in my music. Do it
Speaker 1: the other way. I'm reading it like doing it from
Speaker 1: my mind because when I like say, I go do
Speaker 1: a freestyle on flex or whatever, I ain't reading off
Speaker 1: my phone that shit, I don't memorized, and I didn't
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So it's more emotion behind it.
Speaker 1: It's more I know what I'm saying, like I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what I'm about to say, like
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I know what I'm I'm already
Speaker 1: knowing what I'm coming with. So it's just strong. And
Speaker 1: then when I was listening to Jay and all these
Speaker 1: dudes that they sit never wrote, you can hear it.
Speaker 1: It sounds like they wasn't wrong. You could tell the
Speaker 1: difference as when you hear shit yeah, Eminem rights, you
Speaker 1: could tell you know what I mean? Like and I
Speaker 1: ain't never been around Eminem, but you could just you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's too you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: You're not rapping Nobody's remember like it's that's too hard, bro.
Speaker 1: That's still bad for like the generation of children right
Speaker 1: now who only know Eminem for like his last three
Speaker 1: or four hourbums. Because his new album is is Dope.
Speaker 1: I'm not even go front that the music to be
Speaker 1: murdered by ship was fire. The last few prior to
Speaker 1: that were the history of for for for the future forever,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, he never raps do
Speaker 1: another song. Well, I'm curious if we're taking out accolades,
Speaker 1: if we're taking out record sales lyrically, who do you
Speaker 1: think is the best ever? Because I got a few
Speaker 1: guys that I'm like, I think black thoughts in that convo.
Speaker 1: Royce is in that convo, get busy, busy, Eminem's in
Speaker 1: that convo obviously, but like who do you got up?
Speaker 1: I mean nas, of course, let's go hole. There's guys
Speaker 1: like Sean Price, God rest his soul was like one
Speaker 1: of them dudes, you know what I'm saying, who didn't
Speaker 1: have the record sales, but like by God, talk that
Speaker 1: talk uh big L for show, Big L l L
Speaker 1: was different with the how old are you da? Schemes?
Speaker 1: Thirty one, so we're almost the same age. So I
Speaker 1: remember as a kid, I lifestyles are the poor and dangerous.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear until after the Big Picture dropped. So
Speaker 1: I went to the warehouse, I bought the Big Picture.
Speaker 1: And then there was that Napster wave. Remember when Napster
Speaker 1: was talking. But I remember, yeah, Kaza, you would go
Speaker 1: online and you download all these free styles, and I
Speaker 1: remember the first time I heard the jay Z big
Speaker 1: L free style. It was like seven minutes big L
Speaker 1: washed stretching, stretcher, Yeah, stretching, babido. That was like but yeah,
Speaker 1: like big L man fuck, big L was so fire
Speaker 1: and it looked like then though like a lot of
Speaker 1: people you see flow got they got ella later on
Speaker 1: that back then he was talking like that, like sh
Speaker 1: Russian piece. That was different. Yeah, well you I would say,
Speaker 1: Andre three thousand wheezy. Uh. There's a few lyricists like
Speaker 1: that could rap rap rap pusher. I put pushes up there,
Speaker 1: Freddy Gibbs us up there, had a crazy career, fred
Speaker 1: the God's son, Fred the p Yeah you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's a few, it's a few. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to big L Man. I do feel like
Speaker 1: we our generation always brings big L up, But I
Speaker 1: don't feel like like kids really I put Kim in that.
Speaker 1: I put Kim in that. Like I feel like Caim
Speaker 1: was one of the ilis with the the like uh
Speaker 1: like like make like he was like he had to
Speaker 1: wave like you know what I'm saying, Like he could
Speaker 1: he can, let you know, he could out wrap everybody
Speaker 1: and he could play something I would enjoy. I just
Speaker 1: I feel like him and Joel's had some of the
Speaker 1: most unconventional rhyme schemes where they would rhyme the same ship,
Speaker 1: like six lines in a row, but it'd still be fire.
Speaker 1: It was. It was that was. I feel like they
Speaker 1: they just created an error. Oh for sure, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They created free Jewel Santana. Yeah, free Jewel's. They created
Speaker 1: an era. Who I think there's three of those eras
Speaker 1: out of New York work, at least from our life,
Speaker 1: right because Wu Tang was popping, but we were like kids,
Speaker 1: like real small kids. I was, man, yeah, but we're
Speaker 1: talking d block, dipse at G unit. Those three movements
Speaker 1: were fucking that's my that's my life. That's me right there.
Speaker 1: That's what what I came up on. What which Which
Speaker 1: was your favorite out of those three? Uh staus p
Speaker 1: Personal relationship aside. Yeah, i'm a i'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: i'n say like this. They always my favorite at different times.
Speaker 1: So I had my time of G Unit, like when
Speaker 1: fifty was dropping the mixtapes. I was locked into that
Speaker 1: shit crazy, you know what I'm saying. Staves was always
Speaker 1: my favorite rapper during even during all that time, so
Speaker 1: I was always listening to d Block and then Dip
Speaker 1: shit was you know what I'm saying. I actually was
Speaker 1: around them, seeing them like yeah, all three of them
Speaker 1: at different times, but I was, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't I probably never would like Pick and I
Speaker 1: mean I can say I'm personally now hosts with Dip
Speaker 1: said in the Locks, you know what I mean? I
Speaker 1: heard that Lloyd Banks is working on coming back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had Banks on what was the project? What project
Speaker 1: I had Banks on? What was that P two? Yeah?
Speaker 1: To think so Banks he retired and then I'm hearing
Speaker 1: he's another one that Yeah we're talking about back to
Speaker 1: that list of the Yeah, put that Banks work out
Speaker 1: that victory Lloyd Banks on that bro. There was this
Speaker 1: like best the Lloyd Banks Volume two mixtape that I
Speaker 1: used to sell with the Swami, that was just like
Speaker 1: non stop, like you gotta put Banks on that list,
Speaker 1: all of them, all them ju and free styles. He
Speaker 1: was going crazy. I do feel like it's dope to
Speaker 1: to see like Griselda's like I feel like as far
Speaker 1: as a movement out of New York, it kind of
Speaker 1: just gives me that that nostalgia. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: what really makes like they all individually super fire, but
Speaker 1: they they reminiscent of that those times of a group
Speaker 1: or a crew. Each one of them is different, and
Speaker 1: they all got a different swag, a different stab, but
Speaker 1: they are a crew, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I came out dolo, Yeah, Davies, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: but when that that that crewel essence is fire, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like that, That's why I
Speaker 1: really like be sitting back watching them because they all
Speaker 1: individually can spit, but when they move together, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it look it looks it
Speaker 1: looks dope. It reminds you of that that that g unit,
Speaker 1: that d block, Like you know what I mean to
Speaker 1: remind you of that? And each of them are you know,
Speaker 1: like west Side Gun, You're gonna get that fly ship.
Speaker 1: They all got a different but that's what make it dope.
Speaker 1: None of them is, none of them alike, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. With dipset, none of them was like
Speaker 1: that's how different, and none of them was alike. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, yo, share, I feel like we
Speaker 1: got to give styles pe his flowers while he's still
Speaker 1: here because he's one of the all time grades. Give
Speaker 1: us like a cool Stoles peace story. You got, man,
Speaker 1: that that that nobody knows about, that you haven't talked
Speaker 1: about with Pe. I got a bunch of stories with Pete.
Speaker 1: I can honestly say this. My best friend passed this year,
Speaker 1: King Shooter. Uh my look video out now by the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so. But he is the only rapper. I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of people reached out and you know, said
Speaker 1: the condulences, but Peep he called me. He said, Yo,
Speaker 1: pull up to the juice ball. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Come let me come, let me give you a hug.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, so that just showed
Speaker 1: me a he's a you know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: I just my vibe for him is just different, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, because it's beyond the rap. He really that's
Speaker 1: really big, bro, you know what I mean. But he
Speaker 1: was one of the only ones that did that. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I got a lot of friends in the
Speaker 1: in the hip hop industry, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: or or or even I think with with with like
Speaker 1: we use that word friends in the hip hop industry.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the relationships artists have
Speaker 1: with each other it's it's they're very like finnicky like
Speaker 1: it's almost like, you know how it is you run
Speaker 1: into an artist somewhere, yehs break up a lot of
Speaker 1: people you're cool for the moment. I can count on
Speaker 1: maybe one hand people that since I came in but
Speaker 1: I signed with tenty fourteen, that we've built the relationship
Speaker 1: and that's my guy to this day. How's your friendship
Speaker 1: with Nas in twenty twenty? Solid? Solid, same, same, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like Nas is one of those guys who
Speaker 1: we like. We don't know as much about Nas as
Speaker 1: we know about all these other legends because he is
Speaker 1: so low key. It's like his character in Belly is
Speaker 1: like low key, like since hearing Belly is kind of
Speaker 1: like the way Nas is in real life, like the
Speaker 1: more low key guy. You know, Buns was wild. But
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like you learn in this industry, man,
Speaker 1: when you've been in this as long as Nas. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You don't ad your little mistakes.
Speaker 1: You don't have you slip. You understand everything ain't for
Speaker 1: the public. Everything ain't for the world to see, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You want that peace of mind,
Speaker 1: that privacy, and that's that's some shit I be schooled
Speaker 1: like it's getting from him. Like that's why a lot
Speaker 1: of you don't see me in every headline, every this one.
Speaker 1: I didn't have my little troubles here and there, but
Speaker 1: for the most of the part, I be out the way.
Speaker 1: Do you have you ever? We were talking earlier about
Speaker 1: how the last like three four or five years it's
Speaker 1: been about the clout bullshit, and I think like a
Speaker 1: perfect example of that is like what's going on with
Speaker 1: six ' nine right now. It's like a spectacle more
Speaker 1: than it's about his music. But have you ever felt
Speaker 1: any pressure? No, No No, I'm not I'm not asking you
Speaker 1: about him. I'm just saying, like, like, have you ever
Speaker 1: felt any pressure to like do more bullshit on Instagram
Speaker 1: or or like just based on that, because I feel
Speaker 1: like the entertainment industry has been in such a weird space,
Speaker 1: specifically hip hop, because we've been seeing people who are
Speaker 1: just Instagram guys getting record deals like actual Instagram dudes
Speaker 1: getting signed because they have followers and shit, and it
Speaker 1: hasn't worked out for anybody yet. The record, I got
Speaker 1: a lot of people that ain't on Instagram, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like a lot of my people that
Speaker 1: I know or that I grew up with or I
Speaker 1: be around, they ain't got Instagram pages. So ata ones
Speaker 1: that that salute me? And you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: when they see me outside somewhere, like, keep doing what
Speaker 1: you're doing, homie, Like you know what I'm saying. You move,
Speaker 1: We like how you move, like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I can't be one way like that. But then't
Speaker 1: be a goofy on the internet, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: or just doing shit to do it like? And I
Speaker 1: feel like everything you put on the internet is going
Speaker 1: It is public record and it's there forever, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be there. So my daughter grow up and see, oh dad,
Speaker 1: he was a goof You were doing some stupid wo Like, Nah,
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna be none of that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's a lot of shit you can't help.
Speaker 1: You get caught up here and there. But as far
Speaker 1: as the things that's in my control. I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: goof off. That's fair. Karma three is coming out August fourteen, fourteenth.
Speaker 1: We're here. A whole project with Mary J. Blige is
Speaker 1: on the way. Yeah, that's gonna be. That's different. J
Speaker 1: Stone Project on the Way, Stone Project on the Way.
Speaker 1: But love it too. What are you cooking? Man? That's
Speaker 1: what the quarantine did for me. Listen, Dave, you move
Speaker 1: like you move like an independent artist with the amount
Speaker 1: of shit you're putting out. Hey, man, I like to work.
Speaker 1: If it's one thing anybody has seen about me since
Speaker 1: the day you heard the name Davies, I've been working.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It ain't never been no
Speaker 1: where anytime. It's a. It's a. It's a it's something
Speaker 1: not coming out from me. It ain't got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with me. You know what I'm saying. It's higher powers,
Speaker 1: not because of you. It ain't because of me. If
Speaker 1: it's up to me, I'm going drop. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you music, I'm gonna give you visuals. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you everything I could give you. You You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow ain't promised, so I got to go. That's how
Speaker 1: I sit and watch pot documentaries and Nip all these
Speaker 1: people that that that passed on and they was working
Speaker 1: like they knew they was gonna go. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm not thinking in my mind I'm gonna go,
Speaker 1: but I gotta leave shit here for when I do leave,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So in the meantime, while
Speaker 1: I do got while they all the girls is saying,
Speaker 1: Oh he's handsome and I got my good health and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work. I ain't got time to just be Nah,
Speaker 1: I made it. I'm Dave's all dropped. Next year, I
Speaker 1: got to go. Let me ask you, man, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you had a relationship with Pop Smoke, but
Speaker 1: obviously he's from New York. Great, we got great So
Speaker 1: you got some unreleased music with Smoke. But I'm curious,
Speaker 1: like his passing was so tragic, man, I just I
Speaker 1: talked to him the night before he died. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, great kid, man, like seeing that happen. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you being so close to Nip and having him passed
Speaker 1: away he passed, does that affect you at all? Being
Speaker 1: a public person who obviously comes from your background, and
Speaker 1: be around certain certain environments. Do you do you like
Speaker 1: become a little bit more protective, do you you like
Speaker 1: even paranoid might even be award like like like is
Speaker 1: that something where you like adjust the way you moved?
Speaker 1: Because fuck man, like it's you know what's crazy about
Speaker 1: that before and before that happened to him? Or that
Speaker 1: my first album I dropped on paranoia, yep, And that's
Speaker 1: what that was. If you go watch them interviews, that's
Speaker 1: what I was talking about, the same shit that that
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately happened to them. Like, but I've been
Speaker 1: felt like that, you know what I mean. It's just
Speaker 1: that kind of make like scared me more. Like damn,
Speaker 1: you could be that lit, you could be that known,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like in Hollywood Hills, you
Speaker 1: could be that known though, like with everybody, Like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm far away from home, that far away from anybody
Speaker 1: you probably got any personal beef with. But it's all
Speaker 1: about how you moving, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 1: one thing I'm learning about life is like, you know,
Speaker 1: some shit is just out of your control, but you
Speaker 1: gotta pay it. Once you become a certain figure to
Speaker 1: the world, you gotta pay attention to every move is chess.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's not or I
Speaker 1: could just you gotta really be Oh no, I can't
Speaker 1: move like that. Let me send him to go do that,
Speaker 1: or I gotta let me stay here, like because you
Speaker 1: don't understand, Like you don't know your effect on people.
Speaker 1: Most of the time you've seen people they want to
Speaker 1: take pictures. You think, and it's love, But you don't
Speaker 1: know how a person really knowing about you or what
Speaker 1: they would do to you to get their name. What
Speaker 1: Jay said, if I shoot you, I'm brainless. You shoot me?
Speaker 1: You were famous? Yeah, you know. I mean that's a fact.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, So I just use both.
Speaker 1: I was, like I said, right before that happened with
Speaker 1: Pop Smoke, we was in the studio every day for
Speaker 1: maybe six days. Yeah, talk about your's relationship. I wasn't
Speaker 1: really aware that you guys were Like he was locked
Speaker 1: in anytime I'd be in quality being here. He knew
Speaker 1: I was in the building, coming there, come in the room.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Me him in Trouble to
Speaker 1: the record Trouble from Atlanta. In Trouble, he and Pop
Speaker 1: did like three four joints. Last time we spoke, it
Speaker 1: was all star. I was in Chicago, so you're coming
Speaker 1: out here. He was like, Nah'm about to go to
Speaker 1: La whoo. All right. You know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: hit you want to get back to New York. That
Speaker 1: shit happened. But yeah, I mean that kid was a
Speaker 1: superstar even when you like just meet him, Like what
Speaker 1: was something something about about him that you kind of
Speaker 1: took with you in the short amount of time. You guys,
Speaker 1: it was that good energy like he was he like
Speaker 1: he really Uh it was one of them people that
Speaker 1: liked the room up. You know what I'm saying when
Speaker 1: he come in the building, Like everybody don't got that,
Speaker 1: and it don't take jewelry, It don't take none of that.
Speaker 1: Like some people just got that or you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like Pop had that, you know what i mean.
Speaker 1: He had a good oral around him, good vibe about him,
Speaker 1: and you could just tell he was excited to be
Speaker 1: escaping poverty, escaping the ship we come from, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You could tell he was just excited
Speaker 1: to be getting up out of that. So that that
Speaker 1: that crushed me. You know what I'm saying that hurt.
Speaker 1: I was. I'm still more than Nip thinking about Nip
Speaker 1: very ever, you know what I'm saying. And then that
Speaker 1: should happened, and then my boy, my boy should have
Speaker 1: diedrect and this past May. So it's been these last
Speaker 1: two three years been nasty as far as people you know, dying.
Speaker 1: But I just I take each experience and try to
Speaker 1: move or do something with it. Everything I got from
Speaker 1: Nip and the time I got to be around him, fortunately,
Speaker 1: I try to apply it to my life, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Here it is, man, we look the
Speaker 1: album is dropping, and hopefully we just get a lot,
Speaker 1: a whole lot of music the rest of you. I mean,
Speaker 1: got four videos off the album so far. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: did handsome minutes, believe it or not. My low, uh,
Speaker 1: my low not on it. I did. That was like
Speaker 1: a tribut record for my boy. But I just shot
Speaker 1: Mission featuring Jozzie. Shot that yesterday. That's going. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: drop that. The data that's like the it's like the
Speaker 1: first big video, you know what I mean. But mother
Speaker 1: Joints is running up right now. I want to I'm
Speaker 1: going now, I'm gonna go visual crazy because I'm shitting
Speaker 1: on a lot of music, and it's also been hard
Speaker 1: to do videos, like yeah, it's just like when the
Speaker 1: world was closed up, it was you really couldn't you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Camera crews wasn't trying to really
Speaker 1: do nothing. Plus motherfuckers look at you crazy. If it March,
Speaker 1: you was out of the street shooting videos and I've
Speaker 1: ever cast it over had to apologize because he was
Speaker 1: outside outside Shout out the cast man, Yo, Davies, appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Pull it up always, bro boy perfect