1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Samos podcast. 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 3: It's Ashley and Ben and we are here today interviewing 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 3: one of our favorites from gen season and from Paradise, 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: even though he wasn't on it nearly enough. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: Hakeem Moulten, Welcome to the show. 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 4: Damn girl, you had to say if he wasn't on 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 4: there nearly as well. We know that girl. Way to 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 4: rub some salt in the wound. We know I was 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 4: booted night one. 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: Gosh, Okay. 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: I was hoping that they would figure out some way 14 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: to keep you longer because we needed your facial expressions 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: throughout the entire season. 16 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 4: You're hilarious. Honestly, I just needed some of Ben's game 17 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 4: and then ought to be good. Honestly, if I had 18 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 4: his juice and then I brought that on the beach 19 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 4: with me, we're good. I'll probably be having a ring 20 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 4: on my finger right now. 21 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, because it worked out so well for me, buddy, Well. 22 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: That's what brings me to. 23 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: One of my first questions is you mentioned my ring 24 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: off camera, and I was like, does he know that 25 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: that's like a bachelor ring, like that's a Neil Layne 26 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 3: Bachelor engagement ring. 27 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: And then you said that Ben has games. 28 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: So I'm assuming that you have been a fan of 29 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: the show for a while. 30 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: I not for a while. I'm gonna be honest. I'm 31 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 4: gonna be very very honest. I haven't watched it since 32 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 4: when I was on the Bachelorette. I didn't see a 33 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: season prior to that, right, solely, Yeah, yeah, but when 34 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 4: I got off of her season, I literally hyper binged 35 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 4: up until Matt James's season Bachelororette. 36 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: So did you study up on Bachelor history? 37 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 4: There's Bachelor history? 38 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: Do you know that you don't need to know who 39 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: we are? 40 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 4: But you are? 41 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: You are an icon to me. 42 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 4: You're so funny. But I mean, honestly, I'm going off 43 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: of just how good looking you both are. I mean, 44 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 4: Ben's obviously very good looking. He's all American white dude. 45 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 4: And then we got you just as well. So like 46 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: I figure, like some we had some big deals. I personally, 47 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: I'm I'm like I said, I obviously knew I was 48 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 4: going on somewhere that was a big deal because. 49 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: He was going on some Bachelor related podcast. 50 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 4: No, no, it's not even like that it's not even 51 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 4: like that. 52 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a big deal, a game. I have 53 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 5: to ask you this before we dive into this whole thing. 54 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 4: That's good. 55 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 5: When you wake up in the morning, what do you 56 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 5: do to be you? Because you are one of those 57 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 5: people that brings joy. You are drinking an energy drink, 58 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 5: which makes me a little nervous that you're like really 59 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 5: peaking right now and at some point you're going to 60 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 5: crash during this show. But no, what's your routine? Like, 61 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 5: why do you why do you act the way you act? 62 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 5: Because it is awesome. 63 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: Oh, I appreciate that. First of that's that's so much love. 64 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 4: Appreciate you, Ben. Honestly, it hasn't always been like this 65 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 4: all my life. You know, I just try to choose 66 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: positivity and happiness. So I'm if I'm sleeping, I'm waking 67 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: up around seven thirty eight o'clock am getting out boom. 68 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: You know, probably scroll on Instagram just like any other 69 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: normal unit in individual, brush my teeth, hop in the shower, 70 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: have some coffee, and uh, probably do everything that the 71 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 4: normal human being does. Just watch first take and all 72 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 4: those good things. Honestly, truthfully, it just comes from my 73 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: experience in life and everything I've seen and gone through 74 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: that you realize life is so short and everybody goes 75 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 4: through things. You know, your shit don't stank. You shit 76 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: does stank, you know what I mean. So it's just 77 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: like I kind of just try to be just be real, 78 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: just kind of just be myself in a sense, if 79 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 4: that makes sense. 80 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're even wearing a hat right now that says happy. 81 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: You are the opposite. 82 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: Of Vanilla to me. 83 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: You are werol. 84 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: You've got so much going on. 85 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 3: How could Ricky, who honestly I forgot even existed, could 86 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: never forget about a Hiquem's existence, call you Vanilla in 87 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: the first episode. 88 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: You know, Ricky's actually, I promise you he's not as 89 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 4: bad as I made it seem like on camera. Ricky's 90 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 4: not a bad dude. I don't have anything bad to 91 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: say about him. But I don't know why he called 92 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: me vanilla truthfully, because I'm your homie regardless. I mean, 93 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 4: I would never call you vanilla because even if you 94 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: had Vanilla answers, I'm gonna tell you off camera one 95 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: on one, like yo, like this is what I would do, 96 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 4: like blah blah blah blah. But at the end, of 97 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: the day. I think everyone dustings their own way, and 98 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: I need to be better with my emotions and how 99 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 4: I react to certain stuff like that, because it was 100 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 4: a time and place for me to talk with him 101 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 4: about that. But yeah, the whole Vanilla situation, I was 102 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 4: kind of thrown off to a little bit. I'm like, bro, 103 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: what's up? Like what you mean? Doh? Like we're here 104 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: for the same thing, Like we were talking before the season, 105 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 4: like we both want to get married all this, man, 106 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: what's going on? You know? So that's all. I was 107 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 4: thrown off a little bit. But Ricky's a great guy. 108 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: Rick Ricky's a great guy. Yeah, I don't have anything 109 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: much to any bad things to say about him. 110 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 5: Have you guys talked since. 111 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 4: No, he's reached out. I've just chosen not to reach 112 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: back out, just because I feel like I want to 113 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 4: be real and not hold resentment towards him. If I 114 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 4: was to like just pretend to be friends and stuff, 115 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 4: and I don't want to do that because again, I know, 116 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 4: Ricky's a good dude, but like, honestly, I'm a very 117 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 4: emotional guy, and I hope things to my chest and 118 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 4: I take things really to heart, and I ain't gonna 119 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: lie to you. I took that very much to heart. He's, 120 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: like I said, he's a great dude. We talked briefly. Briefly, 121 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 4: it wasn't I don't but yeah, we didn't. Really we didn't. Really, 122 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 4: we haven't really talked now, we haven't talked. He's reached 123 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 4: out to him, reached out to me, but I haven't. 124 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 4: I haven't responded yet. 125 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 5: So if it makes you feel better, I was called 126 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 5: vanilla too. You and I both have the same things 127 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 5: said to us. And you know what, after a few years, 128 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 5: like I would rather be that guy than I would 129 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: the dude causing chaos. You kind of fall into it, 130 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 5: you know, it works out over time. 131 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 4: No, for sure, absolutely, No, I I agree with you. 132 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: I agree with you. It's just like when you're coming 133 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: from a person that knows you and just like damn, bro, 134 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, it's just kind of 135 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 4: like damn, Like that's how you really like? Those are 136 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: my answers, those are my real life examples of myself. 137 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: So I was kind of like a little bit thrown off, 138 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: a little hurt. So that's why I was that. I 139 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 4: don't think I am, you know, so reaching out to 140 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: me showing me love. They were like, you're not van 141 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 4: You're not. I was like, shout out them, will. 142 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: Be one of those people too. You're not Vanilla, man, 143 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 5: You're You're great. You came on here, you complimented Ashley, 144 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 5: you lit her up. She was you know, she's tired, 145 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 5: she's a mama two. She just sits down here today. 146 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 5: And as soon as you jumped on, she lit up 147 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 5: and you could tell she was ready to do this. 148 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 5: And so that is not of Vanella characteristic. That is 149 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 5: one was bringing energy. Yes, I feel like I'm going 150 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 5: to walk down like a weird thing. 151 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: As well. 152 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 6: So I just you want to do it. Sounds you 153 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 6: won't do it. You won't do it, you won't do it. 154 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 6: I'm on Moca coffee right now, the chocolate on the 155 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 6: automuply right now. 156 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 5: I will say you are a lot more spicy than 157 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 5: anything Vanilla, and uh, I wish you would have been 158 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 5: around longer, honestly. I mean as the season was announced, 159 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 5: I think we got like a spoiler about the cast 160 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 5: that was going to be there. We saw your picture 161 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 5: and we were fired up, and I think a lot 162 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 5: of people really fired up. I remember seeing an Instagram 163 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 5: post of the spoiler. In the comments, a lot of 164 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 5: people were very excited to watch you on the beach 165 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 5: because they didn't feel like they got enough of you 166 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 5: even during gen season. I think they wanted to see 167 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 5: more of you. 168 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely. 169 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 5: I don't really know how to phrase this, but I 170 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 5: think you're gonna know what I'm asking. Yeah, why weren't 171 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 5: you there longer? Like what I mean, we said last 172 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 5: week on the show that the way the format of 173 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 5: this show this season has been, people seem to come 174 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 5: and go too quickly for us. They seem to be 175 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: there and leave, and sometimes there's not even an opportunity 176 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 5: to connect because everybody's already pretty much matched up. So 177 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 5: you're there causing chaos. And if you're somebody like you 178 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 5: who doesn't like to step on toads, but you're there 179 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 5: to find love, it's hard for you to meet anybody. 180 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 5: So I guess if you could just expound on why 181 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 5: were you only there for such a short period of 182 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 5: time outside of the obvious, which is, hey, you didn't 183 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 5: meet somebody? 184 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, truthfully, I just don't think one. I'm gonna be 185 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: very very honest with you. I'm very like upfront and 186 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 4: like I'm very super like I'm bold, and I'm like, 187 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: I get straight to the point, you know, Like, I 188 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 4: guess I think I took it way too serious when 189 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 4: I was talking to the women. In my opinion, maybe 190 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: I took it too serious in a sense because I 191 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 4: was trying to figure out, like like we got three 192 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: weeks and three weeks, I'm skipping my family meeting her 193 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 4: and all that, and I'm like, yo, I gotta figure 194 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 4: out if I can actually see myself go down to 195 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: the altar with her. Maybe I took that too much 196 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: into my head instead of actually being in the moment 197 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: and enjoying the moment when I was there, to be 198 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: frankly honest with you, But also I think the girls 199 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: have better matches there too. You know, I was going, 200 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: I really's gorgeous. But like her and Jeremy have a 201 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: sensational connection. They share a gum, you know what I mean, Like, 202 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: no way I would be able to do something like 203 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: that would hurt you know what I mean? 204 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: Yo, that was weird. 205 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 3: I know that we did a lot like grosser things 206 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: as humans, like romantically. 207 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 5: But like like what that was. 208 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: Just like why did that? Guess? Why did that get me? 209 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: Like just sharing gum. 210 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: Like it's like, what's the difference between sharing gum and 211 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: like just putting your tongue in somebody's mouth? 212 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 5: Oh for really right? But like I didn't love it 213 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 5: because I think everything else has a benefit. I think 214 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 5: the way we look at this is like other things 215 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 5: that you're speaking of have like a personal benefit. There's 216 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 5: a I don't think sharing gum has any personal benefit. 217 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 5: There's no better feeling, there's no release, relaxation, there's no 218 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 5: like spice. It's just like you're just doing it to 219 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 5: do it. 220 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: But for instance, you know, like I feel like everybody 221 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: has their things they do with their person. So I 222 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 4: thought that was kind of like I wouldn't share my 223 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: gum like that, especially stretching out that long stretched yeah. Stress, 224 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 4: But it was cute and it met something between them, 225 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 4: and I want that. I want that non verbal maybe 226 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 4: or something that's like maybe itchy to everybody else, but 227 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 4: it's something that's just with us and it's us against 228 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: the world. Like that's that's dope, you don't think. 229 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: So well, No, that's a good point. 230 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: Actually, the two of them seem like very sexually charged 231 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: between each other, and I want to know see normally 232 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: like we would see that stuff with the old Paradise 233 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: and like the Boom Boom room because it's like a 234 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: shared everything was a shared space, you know, Like, are 235 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: Bailey and Jeremy like doing things and we don't even 236 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: know because of these private bedrooms. 237 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: Shit, if they were we encouraging it have fun, I 238 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 4: don't know, but if they are, let it be great. 239 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 5: Well, could you give us an insight in that, because 240 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 5: we haven't quite seen something like that play out the 241 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 5: way Paradise is structured at this resort, do you have 242 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 5: more access to privacy than maybe at the old spot. 243 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 5: Could you sneak away and go to one of your 244 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 5: private rooms and nobody would ever know? 245 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: Well, there's cameras in our room, so it would absolutely no. Yeah, 246 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 4: there's there's cameras in our rooms. So I don't know 247 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 4: the layout of the last like how would they were 248 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: like sleeping and so far, all I know is there 249 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: were there wasn't AC, So like that was the big thing. 250 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 4: We had Ac and me and me and Jonathan sorry, 251 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: we were rooming together and he likes it super cold 252 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 4: and I like it super warm. So we had a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 253 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 5: That might be the weirdest thing. About you. 254 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 3: I like it super warm too. What's your favorite room teture? Actually, yeah, 255 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: I like it seventy two in the house. 256 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: Oh oh girl, I have it like at seventy eight. 257 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: Seventy nine. 258 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting. 259 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: I will tell you I if I was living alone, 260 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: I would probably go to seventy four, and I won't lie. 261 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: Like in grad school, my friends would come over to 262 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 3: my apartment and I would have it set in the 263 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: winter in Syracuse to like seventy eight. But like you're 264 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: telling us that like in the yeah, because I was 265 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: leving alone and it was a polar tundra. You have 266 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: your summer temperature at seventy eight in the house. 267 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question if you have your 268 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: house at like seventy or let me ask you, Ben, 269 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 4: Where's what temperature is your place at? 270 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 5: Ideally sixty eight sixty nine? 271 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: Can you feel comfortable walking around without socks, no shirt, 272 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 4: just your boxers or even the shorts in the house 273 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: at sixty nine? 274 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, Hike. This is what I say. 275 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, I just want to wear a little tank 276 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: topic a sports bra with little short shorts. 277 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: And no socks. 278 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: I have to bundle see like this is my house 279 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: right now, the upstairs is at the seventy. 280 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: Because you know, people as exciting is. 281 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 5: This conversation you're reminding me of like my eighty five 282 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 5: year old grandmother who you walk into her little like 283 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 5: condo suite and it's ninety degrees in there and you 284 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 5: can't breathe because it's so hot. I've never heard of this. 285 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: This is a new thing for me. I will say this, Akim. 286 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 5: There's many reasons why you are going to be a 287 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 5: great husband. One day, you liking it warm in your 288 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 5: house is another additional reason why you're going to be 289 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 5: a great husband. Because it is a battle from the 290 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 5: start as newlyweds to try to figure out how each 291 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 5: person can be happy when one is burning up and 292 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 5: the other one is always cold. So just remember, you're 293 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 5: gonna be a great husband. You're gonna keep You're gonna 294 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 5: keep your girl warm, and we're excited about that. For you. 295 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I feel like there's 296 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: a subtle like, so you have feminine quality, so you. 297 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 5: Know, there's none of that. I was just saying, you're 298 00:13:52,280 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 5: going to be a great husband, Hakim, Ikim. 299 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: I want to know who you went there for who 300 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: was on your dream list? 301 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's a great question. How do I say, Okay, 302 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: there's people that's on there, but I'm like, they're with 303 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 4: like a friend of mine. So it's like I just 304 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: want to make sure, like as not now. But beforehand, 305 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: like Parisa was like number one, I was like, I 306 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: want to meet her so bad. I've seen her at 307 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: like events and I've like said hi to her. I 308 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 4: followed her, but I specifically didn't reach out to her 309 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: because I wanted to like get the raw Parisa, like 310 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 4: the you know, she's in the wild. She likes to 311 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 4: look at those type of things, and I don't do 312 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: that stuff. I don't do that at all. Let me 313 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: tell you that, I don't camp, I don't hike, I 314 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 4: don't like insects. I don't like any of that stuff. 315 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 4: But I literally, let me tell you guys this, I 316 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 4: literally looked at wildlife in Costa Rica try to prepare 317 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: a little bit like what I would get myself into 318 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 4: if I was to be with Parisa. That's how much 319 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: I was locked. 320 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: In, y'all because she loves that stuff. 321 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, correct, But I had to prepare myself for the 322 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 4: you know unexpected. So I was like, okay, let me 323 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: find out what's all these things out there? Is gonna 324 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: be lizard, It's okay. And then they have these things, 325 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: so I was like, all right, they got monkeys in them, 326 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 4: joint saws of art that so like. But then she 327 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: wasn't down there, damn. So I was like damn. And 328 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: then I also wanted to meet Eli Joe as well. 329 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: I wanted to meet Eli Joe as well, and I 330 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 4: also wanted to meet This was a hail Mary ben 331 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 4: like Olivia Lewis was like I said that before, like 332 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: eight months before. 333 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 5: That was a hail Mary underrated. She was. She's underrated 334 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 5: coming off of Paradise. I'm surprised that she wasn't on 335 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 5: more people's list. Maybe she was, but we liked her 336 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 5: in Paradise. I thought she was a great commentator. 337 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: She's so she's amazing and she's literally gorgeous. So I 338 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 4: think her personality or energy is what really attracted me 339 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 4: to her. So that's how I really wanted to meet her, 340 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 4: but you know, unfortunately didn't work out that way. 341 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 5: So Ali Joe, jakeem and just for our listener's sake 342 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 5: and for my sake, because I've never been to Paradise. Yeah, 343 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 5: how like, how does names even pop up on your radar? 344 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 5: Because she's great? Yeah, but she's not somebody that I 345 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 5: really even knew was on the show until she came 346 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 5: to Paradise. So how how was she even on your 347 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 5: radar for somebody that you'd be interested in? 348 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, Jojo was on Grant season, and Grant's 349 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 4: my best friend, so I watched his seasons and all that, 350 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 4: and I see her and all that, so I saw 351 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 4: her personality how she is as a woman and as well. 352 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, so that's kind of how I kind. 353 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 5: Of So you just knew from the city, Okay, Yeah, 354 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 5: I didn't know if there was like a list of 355 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 5: potentials they send you and you kind of go through 356 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 5: through them and say they. 357 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. There's this very conversational they were like, oh, 358 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 4: so what is your thoughts so far? Like how do 359 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: you feel about X, Y and Z? And I'm like, yo, 360 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: she's dope, Like yo, like I could see myself type 361 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: of thing. 362 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 5: So yeah, okay, that makes more sense. 363 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: And I also met Jojo at I've met her out 364 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 4: before as well. She's she's super she's super good people, 365 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: super super good people. 366 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: Did you just said that you're like best friends the Grant? 367 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that is that is my brother from another mother. 368 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: So what happened between him and Juliana? 369 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 5: Question? Whoa even like he's into that? Like, how's he doing? 370 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 5: By the way, what happened? She just says, let's go 371 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 5: for it. 372 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 4: I unfortunately, actually, even though I rock with you heavy, 373 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 4: I can't speak with I can't speak. I can't speak 374 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: on another man's relationship, you know what I mean? I can't. 375 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 5: I don't know how's Grant doing? Can you at least 376 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 5: tell us that? 377 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can tell you how he's doing. He's doing phenomenal, 378 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 4: Like he has some content that he's going to be doing, 379 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: like a content series that he was telling me about. 380 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 4: He's also with the same management as well as me. 381 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 4: He's going to be at San Diego's for a week 382 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 4: with me. I'm walking on San Diego from week. He's 383 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 4: doing well. He's doing better. 384 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 5: To see you working out in a video or something, 385 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 5: you're jacked like you you work out hard. 386 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 4: Dude, You don't know how much that means coming from you. 387 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 4: Ben Higgins telling. 388 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 5: Me, Now, I saw video and I saw the video 389 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 5: and I think it was like a like not it 390 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 5: was like a TikTok that some somebody else had posted 391 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 5: of a video they'd seen you working out. Yeah, and 392 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 5: they were like saying, how like incredible it was. And 393 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 5: I was like, dang, dude, like you you you push 394 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 5: it hard. 395 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I don't know if 396 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 4: you really mean that. I don't know if you really 397 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 4: saw Instagram video me working out, but I'm I'm I'm 398 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: a I'm going. I'm going to the benefit of the gun. 399 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 5: It's been a while. Maybe I was just having dreams 400 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 5: about you and it popped in my dream. Either way, 401 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 5: you're going to be walking. I gotta get to the gym. 402 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 5: I gotta go. Uh so you're walking in swim week. 403 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 5: That's a big announcement. 404 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's other people there. I think as well. 405 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 5: Good for you. Hey, back to Paradise. You left and 406 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 5: they announced that money was going to be a component 407 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 5: in this season of Paradise. We have mixed thoughts on 408 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 5: it here at the Almost Famous podcast. Honestly, we've kind 409 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 5: of come to the consensus that we just don't like it. 410 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 5: It distracts from the love. Ashley is maybe a little 411 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 5: less on this. 412 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: We're getting to know more, though, Ben, We're getting to 413 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 3: know more because you know, at the end of last 414 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 3: week's episode. In the teaser, Jesse says that, like, you're 415 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: gonna compete in couples challenges to see how strong you 416 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 3: are together, and then it seems like the strongest couple 417 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 3: determined by these challenges will be winning the money together. 418 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 3: So it's not as if like love or money. 419 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, what he's fair, Ashley was out last week. 420 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 2: Come on, there's a lot of lot more contexts there now. 421 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 5: But it would that have changed your strategy at all 422 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 5: if you knew that money was going to be a 423 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 5: component going into it. 424 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 4: Honestly, I have no clue because I'm still confused on 425 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 4: the money component, Like what the heck is going on? 426 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 5: And that's what I think. 427 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 3: We're still supposed to be a little confused, but I 428 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 3: think we have a little bit of a clear picture. 429 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 3: I think that what seems completely different is that we 430 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: are always getting teases towards engagements, but we're not getting 431 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 3: any teases to an engagement. There's no rings in the teasers. 432 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 3: There's just the pot of money. So maybe instead of 433 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: a ring, you guys are splitting money and they're like, 434 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 3: you can get your own Neil Lane with this money. 435 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: Or are they just trying not to push engagements because 436 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: they're a little concerned that engagements haven't been working lately. 437 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 4: Let me if you guys have been in the Bachelor 438 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 4: Bachelor franchise for a minute, right, like. 439 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 5: You guys are old, yeah years? 440 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, if y'all confused, imagine a 441 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: person that just joined last year. How confused I am 442 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 4: with all this? Because what is going on? Are we 443 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 4: doing the challenge? Here are we doing? Are we doing 444 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: too hot to handle? Here are we doing? 445 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 5: Like? 446 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 4: What the hell is going on here? Like, I'm confused 447 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 4: as much as you are with the money aspect. I mean, 448 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 4: who doesn't like money? But like I was, I just 449 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 4: would not have had it expected. I don't know what's 450 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 4: going on. Do I enjoy the money aspect of it? Yeah? 451 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: Cause my one of my guys can win that money 452 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 4: and then you know, we can you can have a 453 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 4: little yacht party and I can be there to you 454 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 4: know what I mean now? But seriously, for me, I 455 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 4: I'm not a huge fan of it, Ashley. I'm gonna 456 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 4: be honest, if I'm not a huge fan. 457 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm a fan. 458 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 3: I'm just saying I'm glad that we're getting to know 459 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: more and it doesn't seem like you have to choose, 460 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: because that was the. 461 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 5: More I know, the less I like Ashley. 462 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 3: Wait, dec It's like they're still talking about the strength 463 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 3: of a relationship. They're not talking about like choose lover money. 464 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't Actually I don't know what I truthfully, 465 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 4: I was just on that season. I don't know what's 466 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 4: going on in a bad way or anything like that. 467 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 4: And I talked to people after the season too, and 468 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: I didn't really inquire about that. But I'm so confused, 469 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 4: like are we just doing challenges? Like are we doing 470 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 4: like tug of war type of things? Like like what 471 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: are we? Like, what's going on? Like you know what 472 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 4: I mean? Yeah, Yeah, That's why I'm like, because Spencer's 473 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: gonna kill it, Like Spencer's is a literally a stallion. 474 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 4: The dude literally does like Spartan races for a living. 475 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 4: You know who's gonna compete with them? No one's could 476 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 4: come in there preparing that we're gonna do challenging. I 477 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: have no cardiovascular shape. 478 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: Me neither, So like got it be screwed. 479 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would mean you're walking in the swim race, right, 480 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 3: so I appreciate you. 481 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: You and I are one and the same. 482 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait why did we use that? 483 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: Of all? 484 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 4: Why we gotta you know I can't swim in a 485 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 4: swim race? Like, why are we saying no? 486 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that there'd be more cardiovascular I'm not 487 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: going to chocolate versus vanilla or anything. 488 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 4: Like that again, because I absolutely don't know how to. 489 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: I'll be watching in that moment too. That's the things. 490 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: Oh my good, thank you, you're semony. Okay, I gotta 491 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: know about Dale? Dale did arrive when you were still there? 492 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 4: Right? Yeah? 493 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 3: Was Dale's ends as dramatic as it seemed on TV? 494 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: And like, did the girls really regard him as such 495 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 3: a prize because like in last week's episode, we're looking 496 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: at it and I'm like, see truth, col Bett and 497 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: I are so sassy towards Dale, Like my bad, sorry, 498 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: but like I could. I was very disappointed, but not 499 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: surprised that Kad gave him the rose. I knew that 500 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: she was gonna want to give him one more chance, 501 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 3: and I think she soon after giving him that rose, 502 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: really regretted that decision. 503 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: He just seems so full of himself. 504 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 4: Honestly, actually he's not. I do think he maybe could 505 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: have more empathy in the way she saw something, you know, 506 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 4: I think he needs to maybe see it in a 507 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 4: different lens. But when I met him, he was a 508 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 4: solid dude. Honestly, he was a good dude. He's more 509 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 4: to himself. He's not the loudest person in the room. 510 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: He's observed and he's not over there trying to call 511 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: scenes or anything like that. Like he really just trying 512 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 4: to stay the way. That's kind of how he moves. 513 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 4: So you kind of just conversate with him and then 514 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 4: so for he's when he gets to know he's not 515 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 4: a bad guy at all. And yes he was when 516 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 4: when he arrived, all the girls were damn near. I 517 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 4: didn't know if their jaws were going to be picked 518 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 4: up from the floor or you know what I mean. 519 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 4: Everyone was like because my jaws on the floor too. 520 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 4: Because I was like, he was walking up and I'm like, 521 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: hold on. 522 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: That's what I remember from me, Oh that's what I thought. 523 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that you did react just like a girl did, 524 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: and I hold on. 525 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 4: He came in I'm like, damn. I was like, Damn, 526 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 4: that's a handsome dude. I I ain't gonna lie. He 527 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 4: was six foot four or five with some green eyes, 528 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 4: got curly here. I'm like, all right, man, just don't 529 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: pick anybody that I'm looking to try to get to, 530 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, that's all. I don't 531 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 4: pick anybody that I wanted. 532 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 5: To know, you know. 533 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: I think it's so cute. 534 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 3: Who would be Like, who's most my type on the 535 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: beach is Jonathan? 536 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: I think he's so you knew it. 537 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 4: I knew it. He knew it. Jius the man. Jack 538 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 4: is the man. And also also just based off your 539 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 4: bubbly personality, I think it would be like, obviously you're 540 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 4: a married woman, you're fit and all that. We just 541 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 4: want to make sure to put that out there. Yeah, yeah, 542 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 4: like that's great energy. You guys would be like a 543 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 4: lot of fun. 544 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: Like I'm already having on him that I have another 545 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: being in a second life, no goodness. 546 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: So April gave him the rose this week. Yeah, and 547 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: we know that that was because he needed to stick around. 548 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: Do you have anything to tease with us and Jonathan? 549 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jakes is gonna do his thing and he's gonna 550 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 4: get to know the ladies to the best of his ability. 551 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 4: He's going out there. He's not just trying to match 552 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 4: with somebody and match with somebody. I think he's really 553 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 4: going in here. He's trying to find that woman. He's 554 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 4: gotten to know everybody, who's talked to everybody, So whoever 555 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 4: comes in, he's gonna try his best to figure things out. 556 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: Will it work or will it not work? I'm not sure. 557 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 4: I can't tell you that, but like he's gonna do 558 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: his thing. 559 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 5: For sure, He's gonna skip becoming a fiance and go 560 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 5: straight to becoming a grandfather. I think is the path. 561 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: Does April have kids? 562 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 5: I don't know, but does that dream she does? Hoking, 563 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 5: That is a question I would love to hear from you. 564 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 5: I mean the Golden show up, there was a lot 565 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 5: of controversy coming into the season the Goldens were going 566 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 5: to be there. The show teased that there would be 567 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 5: possibly some young Ens and some Goldens connecting. Would you 568 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 5: have given any Golden a chance if you were on 569 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 5: the beach when they walked in, not just in general, 570 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 5: would you have given any of a chance to possibly 571 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 5: have a connection. 572 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 4: MAHA's answer, Yeah, you're honest. 573 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 5: Answer, well, yeah, you. 574 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 4: See how gorgeous Leslie is. What are you kidding me? 575 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 5: I'm with you, I've met her. She's beautiful. 576 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? If I would give them, would 577 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: they give me a chance? 578 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 5: Like what you think they would? I think it so 579 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 5: okay to give you a. 580 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 4: Prince. She's on level. She is a batty bro Like 581 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: when I brow bro, bro, Bro, I. 582 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 5: Wish you're still around so bad. 583 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: I was going to say, you aren't made for TV, 584 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 3: You're made for reality TV. And you even had a 585 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 3: cameo on the The Secret Lives of. 586 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 4: Mormon Watch will. 587 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: Please come on that show at least so we can 588 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: all watch? 589 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: So I will. 590 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: Oh, So he's like, oh secrets I allowed to? 591 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what. I don't know if I'm I'm not sure. 592 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I might be. It might be a 593 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 4: cameo again, if they allow. It's if they if they 594 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 4: allow anything, because obviously I'm friends with them, like on 595 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 4: a real level, so it's not about like me. 596 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 5: Going on, how did that happen? Elaborate on your friendship, like, 597 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 5: how do you have a connection to them? 598 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? So I think it was during it was during 599 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 4: AFR for the Bachelorette. They came no no, no, no, no, no, 600 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 4: let's back up mental law. They showed their preview and 601 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 4: this is I have no clue who Taylor, frank Taylor, 602 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 4: Frankie Paul is at this time. And I hear about 603 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 4: swinging and this is and that on the show, and 604 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, this is mad. I'm looking at him like, Yo, 605 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 4: this is gonna be crazy. And they kind of showed 606 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 4: my face throughout the whole entire trailer of that, and 607 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 4: then they brought them in for the AFR and then 608 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 4: I sat next to Demi and Brett, and then I 609 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 4: sat next to Jen and Zach Affleck anyhow, But yeah, 610 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 4: so I got to know Demi and Brett very well 611 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 4: and I became like really close friends and like they're 612 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 4: like my best friends. And then I met Jesse and 613 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 4: Jordan through to me as well. So yeah, me and 614 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: her are very close to me and Jesse. So they 615 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 4: kind of just invited me to this Halloween party. I'm 616 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 4: thinking it's just a party. We just turn it up, 617 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna turn up with some sodas, have fun, 618 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 4: and you know, so I go to the Halloween party. 619 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 4: Then they're filming. So I'm like, all right, so I'm 620 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: signing an appearance waiver and all that and so forth. 621 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 4: And then yeah, so I didn't know if I didn't 622 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 4: know if I was going to be able to just 623 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 4: with the behind the scenes type of thing, if I 624 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: was able to be on there. So I didn't expect that. 625 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: So I was kind of shocked myself when I saw 626 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 4: myself on there. 627 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, man, you get you bring me great joy. 628 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so funny. 629 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 5: There's another way, and this is so good. This is 630 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 5: gonna be great for our video. But you're so much 631 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 5: more than what we're about to ask of you, but 632 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 5: just as a human. But Astley, I'm gonna let you 633 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 5: play the little game that iHeart has came up with 634 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: for us to play with a team. I'm excited to 635 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 5: watch it. She's better at this than I am. She 636 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 5: always does this with our guest. She kind of does 637 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 5: rapid Fire. But our rapid Fire is gonna look a 638 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 5: little different today with you, Ashley, Can you explain what 639 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 5: we're gonna ask of him? 640 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to ask you some paradise scenarios. We're 641 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 3: gonna like kind of make them up, and we want 642 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: your honest facial reaction, and we're gonna have this go 643 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: up on our socials. But also you know their listeners 644 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 3: will also still be listening to this as well. So 645 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: imagine you walk into your hotel room and you find 646 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: two goldens making out on your bed. 647 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 4: Gold's making out. Yeah, keep it going, keep it going. 648 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, you're farting with a woman while hanging out 649 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 3: on a lounge chair, and then the biggest lizard creeps 650 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: over on top of your shoulder. 651 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 4: Creeps over on top of my shoulder. Probably will jump. 652 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 4: I'm probably gonna I'm probably gonna jump a little bit, 653 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 4: probably myself. I'm gonna be honest, I'll probably remove myself 654 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 4: and them grab her hand, and I'm like, let's let's 655 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: chat somewhere else, you. 656 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, even if it was even if it was Parisa. 657 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: Or would you be we can we can swap seats. Okay, okay, 658 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 4: we can swap seeds if you want to be next 659 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 4: to the lizard, but we wouldn't. It wouldn't be Paris 660 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 4: because is happily with Brian right now. 661 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, so we can. She's awful limits limits. 662 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 4: Clearly, she's on the show with her currently, like they're 663 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 4: on they're happy. 664 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: Okay, well they're on the show happy right now? 665 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 3: All right. Imagine you're getting some advice in the bar 666 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: at the bar from Wells, but then he passes you 667 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 3: a drink and it accidentally falls all over you. 668 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 4: Wells, I'm like, oh man, you good. Like I'm gonna 669 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 4: be like kind of like, oh oh, can I get it? 670 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 4: Let me get a napkin, Wells. Wells, you know, Wells 671 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 4: might just laugh actually type shit like he might just 672 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: look at him and laugh, you know, so let me 673 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: get let me get a napkin real quick. 674 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 5: You know, God, have you seen on social media that 675 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 5: on the golf course people are like taking a paper 676 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 5: clip and they're paper clipping like a fake snake to 677 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 5: somebody's like the back of their shorts, and when they 678 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 5: start walking, that snake follows them and then they start running, 679 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 5: the snakes coming faster at them. Have you seen that? 680 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 4: No, but that sounds hilarious but also awful to the 681 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 4: person who's getting that done to them. 682 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 5: I think you'd be the perfect person to do it too. Oh. 683 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 5: I think That's what I'm thinking of right now. Hakem. 684 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 5: We wish you the best final question for today. You're 685 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 5: dating life, post Paradise, post show, kind of where you 686 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 5: stand today. What are you looking for for anybody out 687 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 5: there listening? Or is it active right now? 688 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's active right now. I'm not a 689 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 4: person that tries to force it though. I'm not a 690 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 4: dating apps type of dude. I'm more of a guy 691 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 4: who likes to meet somebody through somebody or meet him 692 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 4: kind of organically meeting that maybe the grocery store, library, 693 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 4: all those or if by me somebod at the bar, 694 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 4: I'll talk to them too. But I'm really looking for 695 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 4: somebody who would be a great mother of my kids. 696 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 4: I think that's the most important thing for me, is 697 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 4: that they want to be a mother and they really 698 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 4: want to be a good mother and take it very 699 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 4: very seriously. So being a good role model for kids 700 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 4: is something that is like a green flag and is 701 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 4: a big like, oh my god, she's gonna be so maternal, 702 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 4: She's gonna be so nurturing to her kids. That's gonna 703 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 4: be like, oh my god. For me. Another thing is 704 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 4: is like just super caring and loving. I'm a very 705 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 4: loving w type of dude. I'm emotional, so like I 706 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 4: like that stuff. So like, if you love me if 707 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 4: you think I'm looking good, like, let me know, tell 708 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 4: me I don't get tired of it. Like if you 709 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 4: want to kiss on me, you want to wear my clothes, 710 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 4: you want to hold me, to hold you all day, 711 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 4: I'll do it. Like that's just kind of person I am. 712 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 4: I love the love of them type of stuff. And 713 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 4: hopefully I just want somebody to be really family oriented. 714 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 4: Like family oriented is super important to me because I'm 715 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 4: super close to my family and I just started rebuilding 716 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 4: a relationship with my father. So if there's reasons why 717 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 4: that she doesn't have a certain relationship with somebody, like 718 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 4: it's always okay, you know what I mean. But like 719 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 4: I really would love to see see my woman, who's 720 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 4: hopefully my wife, going to be very like incorporated with 721 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 4: their family traditions and not just farly remove themselves as 722 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 4: they remove themselves from the home, still be very involved 723 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 4: and yeah, baby, very like very respectful to parents because 724 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 4: that's very important for me too, because I don't want 725 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 4: to have a friendly relationship only with my parents. I 726 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 4: don't curse with my parents. It's just it's a little 727 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 4: uncomfortable for me. It's just like we have like a 728 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: very like a. I don't know if it's culture difference, 729 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 4: but we have a very like fine level of respect 730 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 4: line for them, so like I kind of just want 731 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 4: that to always be there, Like we always have like 732 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 4: a loving, friendly relationship with our parents, but then we 733 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 4: also have like a sign of respect for them as 734 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 4: well too. 735 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 5: So she's out there, She's out there. 736 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 3: So he came, I need to ask you, though, did 737 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 3: you ever pick up a girl at the library? 738 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 4: I did. I have picked up a girl at the 739 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 4: library before, but not recently, not recently. 740 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: Now is this a college thing or a college thing? 741 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 4: This was a college thing, college thing, college, But I 742 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 4: think you find great people anywhere, honest But I just 743 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 4: tried to not have it in the night life scene 744 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 4: because we're not usually in the right frame of mind 745 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 4: at that time. To be frankly honest with you, I'll 746 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 4: speak for myself. I'm not usually in the right frame 747 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 4: of mind. If you see me outside, you know, so 748 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 4: I'm usually trying to get after it or I'm just chilling. 749 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 5: That makes sense, It makes sense to me. Hakeem. We 750 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 5: wish you would have been there longer on Paradise, but 751 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 5: since you weren't, I know there's somebody out there in 752 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 5: this real world outside of the Bachelor in Paradise scenario. 753 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 5: For you, you got a cousin, I don't, and no sisters, 754 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 5: no cousins. I'm such a small little family I got. Uh, Hakeem, 755 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 5: thanks for coming on. We'll be talking to you again 756 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 5: soon hopefully. 757 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 4: Sounds good. Sounds good of so nice meeting you both. 758 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 759 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: Nice meeting you too. 760 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 4: Byek you. 761 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 5: This has been the almost famous podcast today. We had 762 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 5: Hakeem on from this last season of Bachelor in Paradise 763 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 5: and one hundred percent of fan favorite. One of those 764 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 5: people if you listened a few weeks ago you heard 765 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 5: to say some of our favorites have just come and 766 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 5: gone way too quickly and way too early. He's one 767 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 5: of those people that we the show would have benefited 768 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 5: from having on longer. And I think he could have 769 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 5: found somebody really special if he was on longer. But hey, 770 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 5: it didn't work out. 771 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 3: I have just been like, hey, would you like to 772 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 3: take over as narrator? 773 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 5: I really just wish I would have seen him hit 774 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 5: up leslie like I like that he seems so confident 775 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 5: in that I answered, so excited about it that, like 776 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 5: I think I really believe him when he says, no, 777 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 5: I would have, and I'm like, goodness, gracious, how did 778 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 5: the show let you go? 779 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 3: Set on that opportunity to Here's to be more production involvement, 780 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 3: guys around. 781 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 5: Yea and the Hypocrites. Is the Almost Famous Podcast are back? Hey, 782 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 5: We'll be back next time, bringing down more Bachelor and 783 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 5: Paradise news, more Bachelor and Bachelorette news, more Golden news, 784 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 5: everything coming your way right here on Almost Famous Podcast. 785 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 5: So until next time, I've Been Been, I've Been Ashley. 786 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast on 787 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts