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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 3: Everybody nailed it joined us always by our bar gap.

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Speaker 1: Here is Evan Lazar and Alex bar.

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Speaker 3: In terms of the way is that the Jets can

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Speaker 2: I there's a couple of things.

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Speaker 3: Their run game offensively is very explosive, it's not very consistent.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like last week for the Patriots, where

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Speaker 3: it's like two big runs often skewed all their numbers.

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Speaker 2: Bries Hall is an explosive back.

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Speaker 3: I think he's third in the league right now an

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Speaker 3: obviously know what Justin Fields can do with those design

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Speaker 3: quarterback runs. This is options like he's gonna be in

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Speaker 3: the gun. He's gonna have you read option plays. It's

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Speaker 3: going to be you know, tackle trap, it's going to

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Speaker 3: this field tomorrow night. I have some lingering thoughts on

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Speaker 3: that because that's kind of what we saw on the

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Speaker 3: opening drive. But then the Patriots clamped it down, as

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Speaker 3: they seem to do, Alex every week. We have the

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Speaker 3: same exact formula for this Patriots defense, so we'll get

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Speaker 3: to all of that. I don't want to do an

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Speaker 3: entire autopsy of this Jets game because it's almost a

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Speaker 3: week ago this game happened. But I do have some

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Speaker 3: let's call them lingering thoughts from the Jets game that

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Speaker 3: are a little bit more big picture, so we'll get

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Speaker 3: to that here in a few minutes. I do want

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Speaker 3: to start with news as well, or just you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of current state of things for the Patriots. But

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Speaker 3: it's Evan Lazarre, it's Alex Barth, it's Alex Pine the Glass.

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Speaker 3: We are going to be here for the next couple

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Speaker 3: of hours talking Patriots football, and it's a good time

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Speaker 3: to be talking Patriots football. This is the most fun

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Speaker 3: I've had talking Patriots football. And I was trying to

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Speaker 3: think about this actually because maybe I was just too

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Speaker 3: close to it at this point. But by twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, you could tell that Brady was kind of miserable,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know if it was as fun as

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Speaker 3: more as it was relieving when they won.

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Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people feel that way about

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Speaker 3: the whole maybe second chapter of the Dynasty because the

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Speaker 3: stakes and the expectations were so so high that it

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Speaker 3: was literally when the Super Bowl or the season was

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Speaker 3: or stress about winning versus just celebrating the fact that

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Speaker 2: So much so, this team is playing with.

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Speaker 3: House money a little bit in year one under Mike Rabel,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's it's been more fun to talk

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Speaker 3: discover it now. I think it's the most fun I've

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Speaker 3: ever had covering a Patriots team as a fan, Like

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Speaker 3: I think you probably have to go back to fourteen sixteen,

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Speaker 2: So I would say, like, probably this really.

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Speaker 3: Dynasty two point oh, like the meat of Dynasty two

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Speaker 3: point oh when they were going to the AFC Championship

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Speaker 3: Game every single year. But again it was like like

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Speaker 3: I remember in twenty eleven when they beat Baltimore in

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Speaker 2: I just remember being so relieved that they won that game.

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Speaker 3: Not euphorick are happy that they won that game, but

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Speaker 3: just flat out they should have lost that game. Thank

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Speaker 3: that year in particular and lose Super Bowl. But what

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Speaker 3: you must be having a great time with this too,

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Speaker 3: because this is the first time that we really covered

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, twenty one was cool, obviously, I

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Speaker 2: Of me until Drake May and Mike Rabel brought it back.

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Speaker 1: Watching these Now you hated fun even when when Brady

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Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry, twenty eighteen was still fun.

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Speaker 1: It probably helps that it was our first year. If

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Speaker 1: and we post it the ESPN Playoff Machine. I dove

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Speaker 3: And for somebody that hates all of that, the fact

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Speaker 1: We do have to do it.

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Speaker 3: It's a predictive model, like it's a model that's based

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Speaker 3: But well, I was just talking to Deduce about in

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Speaker 3: So we've had just preliminary conversations about that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: And it's real, it's a real question, uh, this year

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Speaker 2: Depending on Pro Bowl, depending on how long.

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Speaker 3: The Patriots are season goes like you know, dare I say,

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Speaker 3: You know? And that has not been a conversation that

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Speaker 2: Isn't that good? All right, let's talk about some news.

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Speaker 3: With the Patriots and Patriots adjacent news, and then I

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Speaker 3: do want to get to those lingering thoughts from this

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Speaker 3: do too. Actually got to watch some football on Sunday

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Speaker 3: So we'll get to some of that too, and we'll

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Speaker 2: Bengals of course and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 3: But starting with the news, I want to focus in

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Speaker 3: there's no second appeal. You can't, you know, appeal it

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Speaker 1: I think at this point people are caught up. There

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Speaker 3: So that means that Milton Williams will miss at least

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Speaker 3: huge implications. Division implications with Buffalo, seating implications with Baltimore. Remember,

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Speaker 3: keep winning in general, your record within the conference is

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Speaker 3: that's going to hurt against the Colds. That's going to

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Speaker 1: As, especially if they win that Bills game.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but I'm even talking if they don't win the

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Speaker 1: If they don't win the Bills game yet, they're still

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's true. Look, I I don't want

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty optimistic that they'll be able to still

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Speaker 2: Long Enred, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: if there's holes, those two guys.

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Speaker 2: Are gonna find the holes in the back end.

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Speaker 3: And if you're blitzing guys and things like that, then

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Speaker 2: Maintain seven or eight guys in coverage.

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Speaker 3: Like I think a lot of the teams that you

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Speaker 2: It's like three man rush. A lot of the time.

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Speaker 3: Elijah Ponder's already flashing and competing for snaps behind Landry

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Speaker 3: think there's a chance that Dupree could have a role

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Speaker 3: moving forward. You know, they kind of recreated Dustin Hooper

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Speaker 3: that was sort of how they recreated the blocking element

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Speaker 3: with Hooper. But Dupree is a what six', five two

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Speaker 1: GUYS i do wonder If dupree is going to have

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Speaker 1: as another tight end to Allow westover to play. Fullback

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Speaker 1: old but is it, Okay, well we need this guy

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Speaker 1: now more on, defense so we're not going to have

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Speaker 1: him at fullback as. Much so Now Jack western goes

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Speaker 1: then they still Have Caleb murphy who really is only

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Speaker 1: of Claiming murphy off waivers a couple of weeks. AGO

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Speaker 1: i don't Think murphy's done anything like lose, ground, right

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Speaker 3: That it'd be interesting to see what they do With

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Speaker 3: tonga because he played eight snaps on offense In, tampa

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Speaker 3: Package, like, yeah if you're in a ton of third

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Speaker 3: him being out is a big part of this game coming,

437
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 3: up but that's A i wanted to start with The

438
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 3: patriots news a couple of lingering. Thoughts now in This jets,

439
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 3: Game let's start With Drake may BECAUSE i just wanted

440
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 3: to go over since we had this little extra time

441
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 3: without you, know doing a whole autopsy of this. Game

442
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 3: this to me and to my you, know my film,

443
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 3: study my grading on this, GAME i hate using, grading

444
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: my charting of this. Game i'm like freaking coach my

445
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 3: charting of this. Game this was his best game for

446
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 3: me Since week six In New, orleans just purely off

447
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 3: of you, know what the film looked.

448
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: Like in this, GAME i thought he was outstanding against The.

449
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 3: JETS i had him for you, know eleven positive, plays

450
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 3: four and a half minus plays six point five. Net

451
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 3: that's his third highest charted game in my eye Since

452
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 3: week six And week two Against. MIAMI i had him

453
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: as a plus nine in both those. GAMES i think

454
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 3: that those were his two best. Games miami was probably

455
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 3: his best game of the, year but those were his

456
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 3: two best, games and this one was the, so you,

457
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 3: know really good game for. HIM i thought in this,

458
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 3: one obviously get takes a little bit of a step

459
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: back in terms of level of, Competition like he's not

460
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 3: going up Against, Cleveland, Atlanta, tampa you, know those are

461
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 3: better defenses.

462
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: Than what The jets put out.

463
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 3: There BUT i thought stood out to me the most

464
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,239
Speaker 3: from this game From Drake may was just how in

465
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 3: control he was in this. Game just really looked like

466
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 3: he was in complete control pre, snap complete control post,

467
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,959
Speaker 3: snap made great decisions with the. Football really the minus

468
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 3: plays THAT i had in this game were, throws LIKE

469
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: i got The the post To Kyle williams THAT i

470
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: was almost intercepted was probably his own only true really negative.

471
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 3: Play that one hung up on him a little. Bit but,

472
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 3: OVERALL i thought that he was great in this. Game

473
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 3: and you start to see again against a Weaker jets,

474
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: defense but you start to see him doing some of

475
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 3: the things that the line of scrimmage pre snap that

476
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 3: are telling, You, okay he's starting to really master not

477
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: only his own craft and being just extremely talented in

478
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 3: his own, right but now he's really starting to master

479
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 3: the system and, understanding you, know where the pressure points,

480
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: are how to move, protection how to change mike, points

481
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: how to change, formation you know where the weaknesses are

482
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 3: in the defense when they go, empty like finding your

483
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 3: matchups that sort of.

484
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: Thing this is this was like.

485
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: Him putting on a clinic of how to run The

486
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 3: josh McDaniels. Offense it really. Was so it was good

487
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: to see that again because he's had some tougher matchups

488
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 3: recently and it's been a little bit more up and

489
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: down kind of first, half second half sort of thing for.

490
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: Him but in this, Game Drake may was back to absolutely.

491
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: Dealing, yeah and let's kiss from credit to the offensive line.

492
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: Too we only got hit four times in this, GAME

493
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: i think, that you, know compared TO i think was

494
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: sixteen combined all the previous two. Weeks so he was

495
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: able to settle in more than he had. Recently and

496
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: then once he settled then he got very comfortable and

497
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: he was just ripped.

498
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: It, so, Yeah i'm with.

499
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: YOU i thought this was was one of his better.

500
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: Games you, know level of competition maybe knocks it down a,

501
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: bit but the pocket movement was the big thing for.

502
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: Me and he's talked, about or he talked about back

503
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: in the summer wanting to stay a thrower when he

504
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: scrambles and it's kind of coming waves with him this

505
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: year WHERE i feel like he'll be good about it

506
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: for a few games and then maybe he gets a little,

507
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: comfortable starts let go of the rope a little, bit

508
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: he starts leaning on the run. More we talked about

509
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: this around The tennessee, game and then either something, happens

510
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: he turns the ball, over he takes a big, hit,

511
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: something and it kind of just, like was there a, Reminder,

512
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: like oh, Yeah and so he had that weird scramble

513
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: early in the game where he gets like a couple

514
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: of yards and then he turns ninety degrees to the

515
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: left and he doesn't even. Slide he just kind of stops,

516
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: running which WAS i, mean don't do. That but after,

517
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: THAT i wonder if that was one of those reminder

518
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: points for him where it's just all, right, nope got

519
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: to keep my eyes, up got to look to throw

520
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: and there's nothing. There and then the rest that gave

521
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: him the things he's doing a maneuver in the, pocket

522
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: remain a, thrower the back to back throws to digs

523
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: and then the Touchdown henderson examples of. That that was

524
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: the most impressive thing to me About drake in this.

525
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: Game, yeah HIS i think that that is probably the

526
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 3: most improved area of his game is his pocket, movement

527
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think what you, saw and you've seen him

528
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 3: at times this, year but it's been significantly better what

529
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: you saw In North carolina than what you saw his

530
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: rookie season was almost too much pocket movement where he

531
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 3: would move into. Pressure so instead of just these Subtle

532
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: brady esque kind of movements in the pocket where he's

533
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: gonna slide a little bit to his left or he's

534
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 3: gonna step through the, pocket he would create pressure by

535
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 3: moving too much in the. Pocket now what they have

536
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 3: him doing is understanding like that you can just subtly

537
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: move around the, pocket you, know two three steps this,

538
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 3: way two to three steps, up whatever the case may,

539
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: be and keep your eyes down the field and remain a,

540
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 3: thrower as you, said and then push the ball down

541
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 3: the field once you find that clean. Air he has

542
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 3: gotten significantly better at. That he's gotten significantly better at

543
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 3: protecting the ball while he's sliding and while he's moving

544
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 3: in the. Pocket you can see him out there with

545
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: the two hands on the football to swing, throughs you,

546
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: know protecting the. Football those elements of his game have

547
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: improved leaps and. BOUNDS i kind of thought that he

548
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 3: had a lot of the other stuff going as a,

549
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: rookie maybe not as consistently as he's done it this,

550
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 3: year but you saw, flashes of, course of like the

551
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: downfield ball placement and like all that kind of, stuff

552
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 3: even At North. Carolina but the pocket, mechanics his, footwork

553
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: his ability to move the, pocket his ability to keep

554
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 3: himself protected and not create. Pressure those are all like

555
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: the sort of minutias or the details THAT i think

556
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 3: have really taken the next step this year compared to

557
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: last year and have made him a much more dangerous

558
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: and just more difficult quarterback to, defend because you get

559
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 3: guys that can move off the spot like that and

560
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 3: then keep their eye downfield and make throws after they.

561
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 3: Move that's the worst thing in the world for a,

562
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: defense is you, Know, okay we think we have him

563
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: dead to, rights he gets out and now all of

564
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: a sudden he's throwing the ball and not just taking

565
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: like a six or eight yard. Scramble now it's a

566
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: twenty yard play down the field as a. Thrower SO

567
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: i thought he was terrific in this, game AND i

568
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: fully expect him to be terrific again On sunday against

569
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: a very Bad bengals. Defense it might be his statistical

570
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: best game of his career coming up On. Sunday if

571
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 3: if he plays like he did against The.

572
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: Jets and he's almost had that three hundred yard, game

573
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: he probably. Should it was a great play From Brandon

574
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: stevens is all? That, yeah all that stopped it because

575
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: that was a dime to.

576
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: Maccollins yeah it. Was and you, KNOW i THINK i

577
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: just think that, this if this is how he's going

578
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: to play against this level of, competition then they're going

579
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: to clean up in these types of, games, right you,

580
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 3: know they're not going to lose types of, games you,

581
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: know against The, jets The, giants The bay The, dolphins The. Jets,

582
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: Again like that's to, me If Drake may plays this,

583
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: way you can you can put four wins in the

584
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: win column for The patriots in those, games like they're

585
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: not losing with him playing quarterback like.

586
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: This so that was really good to.

587
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: See not THAT i thought that he was, bad and

588
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: you know The, Browns falcons and And bucks games certainly

589
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: not The buck. SKAMING i thought it was really good

590
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 3: In Tampa. Bay but this was just in terms of you,

591
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: know the lack of negative plays especially was was just

592
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 3: really in total command and dominated.

593
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: Kind but to be, fair The jets have not forced

594
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: a turnover On american soil yet this.

595
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: Year, yeah, no The jets defense.

596
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: Bad but with you're going up against bad, defenses you

597
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: make them look, bad you know.

598
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: That that's good.

599
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: News that's what you want to. See now on the

600
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: other side of the. Ball you, know one of the

601
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: things that has been sort of bugging me all, season

602
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: it's lingering for me after this. GAME i still just

603
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: don't love how they're playing, defensively and maybe this is

604
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: a me thing AND i just have to get over.

605
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: It like they're not going to play man coverage like

606
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: they did With. Bill maybe they will, eventually you Know Bill.

607
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: Belichick you, know maybe they will. Eventually but to his,

608
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: credit you, Know belichick was one of the best man.

609
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: Coverage schemers of his.

610
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: Time You, know he was a guy that really understood

611
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: how to, leverage how to create, help how to maintain

612
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: numbers in coverage while getting pressure with man.

613
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: Coverage he was one of the best at.

614
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: It and not all coaching staffs and not all teams

615
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: are going to be as good at it as The

616
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: patriots were with you, Know gilmore And revis and you,

617
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: know when they were in their prime with the man coverage.

618
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: Stuff SO i get, that BUT i still, have you,

619
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: know hesitations about how they've done, that AND i also

620
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: think that it's worth bringing.

621
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: Up AND i, KNOW i kind of hear What.

622
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: Rabel says about it when he says that it's easy

623
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: to point to with the opening, drives and there's an

624
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: element of it that he's right, about of course that

625
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: if they play great defense after the opening, drive then

626
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: who really? Cares, Right so you're gonna give up seven,

627
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: Points you're gonna give up was it, fourteen you know

628
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: against The jets or thirteen or whatever it. Was but

629
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: at the same, time you, know JUST i think it

630
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: goes hand in hand in terms of their plans going

631
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: into these. Games you, know their game planning. Ability the

632
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: opening drive is all about script. Right it's literally your

633
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: scripted plays in your game plan all week long against

634
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: their scripted plays and their game plan all week. Wrong

635
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: so that's that's, coaching, Right that points to. Coaching, Now

636
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: i'll hear the argument that they're playing a little bit

637
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: possib with. This maybe they are kind of going out

638
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: there and, saying let's just see what the other team,

639
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 3: does let's see what their plan is against. Us will

640
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: make a few, adjustments and we'll lock it. Down totally.

641
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: Possible but just to read off the, stats just to

642
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: for full disclosure, here in eleven games this, season they've

643
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: given up eight scoring drives on the opening. Drive it's

644
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: tied for most in THE, nfl eight out of eleven.

645
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: Teams and it's doesn't matter if you're The jets or

646
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: you're the two thousand and Seven, patriots and they're giving

647
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: it up eight out of.

648
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: The like it's the only ones they haven't are The, Dolphins,

649
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: bills And.

650
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: Falcony and The bills fumbled on their opening, drive WHICH

651
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: i was kind of more of like a self inflicted

652
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: wound than it really was you stopping. Them they've given

653
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: up six touchdowns on opening, drives so six out of

654
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: eleven have been.

655
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: Touchdowns two of them have been field.

656
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: Goals and to get to that eight, number that's tied

657
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: for the second most in THE, nfl AND i believe

658
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: it's only one off the. LEAD i think the Leaders

659
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: tennessee maybe with, seven so we're not too.

660
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: Far is not a good football, Team so.

661
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: These opening drives is just a weird. THING i kind

662
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: of liked To Robert spulane's answer about it after the.

663
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: Game you, know he kind of got out in front

664
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: of it and was, LIKE i, KNOW i know the opening,

665
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: drives LIKE i, know but at the same, time it

666
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: continues to. Happen and there's a couple of other little things,

667
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: that you, know just looking at the way that they

668
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: game plan teams THAT i think come back to the opening,

669
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: drives Where i'm just, like you, know these are the

670
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: things THAT i would like to see them get better

671
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: at as a staff and get better at as. Defense

672
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: i'll get to some of the other scheme, stuff but

673
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: just let's stick with the opening drives here for a,

674
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: second just to be a little bit. Organized you knew

675
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: coming into this game that The jets were going to

676
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: just run justin fields like you knew that that's what

677
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: they were gonna. Do it was gonna be read, option

678
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: it was going to be you, KNOW, rpo it was

679
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: gonna be scrambles on third downs like that was going

680
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: to be the game.

681
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: Plan you knew.

682
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: It you knew that they were going to take the

683
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: opening drive and they were going to run ten zone

684
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: reads and try to march right down the field running the,

685
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 3: football and that's exactly what they.

686
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: Did that's exactly what they.

687
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: Did, now The jets are maybe not in a position

688
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: to keep pressing that button for four straight quarters because

689
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: they get behind and then they have to, throw and

690
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: then the problems start to persist for. Them but when

691
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: you get into these, bigger more high stakes games and

692
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: you play The, bills which when you Play baltimore With

693
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: Lamar jackson EVEN i would say to a lesser, degree

694
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: but you, know The colts With Daniel jones could do

695
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: some of this stuff. Too he's not a non zero,

696
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: runner you, know he can run around a little. Bit of,

697
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: Course Jonathan taylor is there as. Well this is something

698
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: that if they don't sort of figure out what to

699
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: do with this in terms of the opening, drives THAT

700
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: i do think is indicative of maybe how they are

701
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: chess matching. Opponents you, know like these opponents have a

702
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: book on them on what to do on these opening,

703
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: scripts and The patriots so far have not had any

704
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: answers in that.

705
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: Well but it feels like it's been something different every.

706
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Time it's not, like, oh they keep getting beat on this.

707
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: Concept or they keep getting beat by this or. That

708
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: like the THING i noticed on the first drive against The,

709
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: jets and credit goes to The jets offensive line. HERE i,

710
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: mean they were not just winning at the line of.

711
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: Scribbage they were getting The patriots defensive linemen on the.

712
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: Ground and then once they get him on the, ground

713
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: you see lineman do just like, you stay on top

714
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: of them so they can't get back. Up so there's

715
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: all this room For Justin fields And Breese hall to

716
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: cut back because the defender's just not in. Play he's

717
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: been taking OUT i haven't really seen anybody do that

718
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: to The patriots defense this. Year they didn't really do

719
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: it to him for the rest of the, game but

720
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: it was just they came out The jets, defense offensive

721
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: line came out with more. Energy so that's what's so

722
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: weird about it to, Me, like, yeah there's other teams

723
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: that are gonna be able to run on, them but it's.

724
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: Not you, Know tampa kind of threw their way down

725
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: the field on that opening drive and you go back To,

726
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: cleveland it was just it was a little bit of a,

727
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: mix but it was the tight ends that killed. Them

728
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: and it's it's been something different every, time WHICH i

729
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: wonder is is that why they're having so much trouble

730
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: figuring out because it's not like one thing that you,

731
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: say we're going to fix this and it's, fixed or

732
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: maybe they fixed one thing and then another issue opens,

733
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: up but it's. Not the scoring on the opening drive

734
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: is a consistent issue. Obviously, yeah why the other team is,

735
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: scoring what they are doing to, score the concepts that they're.

736
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: Using it doesn't necessarily carry over week to. Week it's

737
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: kind of been different.

738
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 3: Things, yeah that's a great, Point BUT i think the

739
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: the part that troubles, ME i guess a little bit

740
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 3: about it because to that point is that it's always

741
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: the thing that you know that the other team is

742
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: going to do. Well that's a good, point you, Know

743
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: like it's justin fields with the read, Options like you

744
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: knew that that was going to be what The jets

745
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: we're going to try to. Do The browns throw into

746
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 3: their tight ends on The patriots safeties and. Linebackers you

747
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: knew That Harold fannin And david And joku were going

748
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: to be a huge part of The browns game. Plan like,

749
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: that you kind of knew all these different. Things the

750
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: other thing that was a little bit so ice game

751
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 3: was they gave up four third down.

752
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: Conversions, well so they were went four for four on

753
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: third down on the opening drive The jets they were

754
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: four for ten from. There, yeah, so and the paper

755
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: has been one of the best third down defense in THE.

756
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: Nfl is it just an energy? Thing, Yeah and we

757
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: talked about that early in the, season and maybe we

758
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: come back to. It is it just an energy.

759
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: Thing, yeah it's a good point now in terms of

760
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: the chess match and some of the schematic, THINGS i

761
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: just continued to be small seat concerned about how they're

762
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: matching up in man coverage and in this. Game if

763
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: The jets had better, players, frankly THEN i think some

764
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: of the things The patriots did defensively in the secondary

765
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 3: would have given would have made this a. Game and

766
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: The jets just had Eighty mitchell dropping passes left and

767
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: right And Justin field's getting, benched you, know throwing the football,

768
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: right and it just. Didn't, Now i'll give him. This

769
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 3: it was A thursday night, game it was a short.

770
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: Week is a division game on a short, week just

771
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: get out of there with a. Win and it was

772
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: a take care of business. Night it Wasn't, wow look

773
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: at this masterful game plan By Zach Korr Mike Rabel.

774
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: Knight, no it's A thursday night. Game it's a get you, know, survived,

775
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: advanced get through, It thursday Night divisional game.

776
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: Two that being, SAID i think that this continues to

777
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: be something That i've talked about multiple times on the,

778
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 3: show so specifically to This jets, Game Christian. Gonzalez they.

779
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: Played The jets played a lot of three by, one

780
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: so three receivers to the, quarterbacks one side to the,

781
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: quarterback and one receiver to the backside of the, formation

782
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 3: and The patriots just played sides with their. Corners they

783
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: didn't shadow the, corners they didn't move the corners or

784
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: travel the, corners.

785
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: So they just played.

786
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: Sides so, eventually what The jets noticed is that they're playing,

787
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 3: sides they're not Moving Christian gonzales off the. Boundary so

788
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: what they did was they took their tight, End Mason,

789
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: taylor and they made him the one receiver on the

790
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: backside of the.

791
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: Formation so what does that.

792
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: Do it creates a situation Where Christian gonzalez is covering

793
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: the tight end right and then inside the formation and

794
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 3: the three by one side it's a safety On John

795
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 3: metchi most of the, time so their slot receiver is

796
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: getting matched up On Craig woodson Or Jalen. HAWKINS i

797
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: JUST i don't think that that should be happening right like.

798
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: That you don't want that. Matchup that's a bad.

799
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 3: Matchup and when you play man to man coverage or

800
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 3: you try to Play manta man, coverage it's all about.

801
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: Matchups where are our matchups where you, know in Against,

802
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 3: atlanta it Was atlanta finding ways to Get Drake.

803
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: London On Marcus.

804
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: Jones in this, game it Was John metchi against The patriots.

805
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: Safeties they hit a touchdown To mechi this way and

806
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: they should have Hit they hit an eighteen yard play

807
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: on third down To mechi this, way and they should

808
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: have hit another crosser to Eighty, mitchell but he dropped the.

809
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: Ball all these are on sat you, know wide receivers on.

810
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: Safeties so that that to me is all about going

811
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: into the game and understanding. Matchups Like i'll say it

812
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 3: like this week Against, cincinnati IF i was The, BENGALS

813
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 3: i would just play T higgins as a big slot

814
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: and say to The, patriots are you going to put

815
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: Carlon davis Or Christian gonzales inside or are we gonna

816
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: have T higgins Against.

817
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: Marcus jones for four? Quarters because if we, are then

818
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: good for. US i mean that that happened a couple

819
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: of years. AGO i, mean guys were, hurt they kind

820
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: of had. Due it happened a couple years. Ago last

821
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: time The bengals were, here and we know how that. Went,

822
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: yeah do you think they're still maybe spooked a little

823
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 1: bit after what happened With atlanta And london.

824
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: Spoots in what sense like the motions and all that

825
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: kind of.

826
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: STUFF i would chalk this one, maybe BUT i would

827
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: chalk this one up to more it was A thursday

828
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: night game and we're not gonna. Overcomplicated and then ALSO

829
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: i would just, say like The jets don't Have Garrett,

830
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 3: Wilson like they don't have a receiver Where gonzale should

831
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 3: really be. Shadowing but if you're gonna go three by

832
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: one like that and they're gonna put the tight end

833
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 3: as the one, receiver to, ME i would just like

834
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: to see them be able to have a check or

835
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: have an identification where they can, say, well we're gonna

836
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: Put gonzales inside over the receiver on the three by

837
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 3: one side instead of having him out on the. BOUNDARY

838
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: i think the biggest difference is is that it kind

839
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: of gives away if it's manner, Zone like If gonzalez

840
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: is going to play inside the slot and he's gonna

841
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 3: consistently line up, there it kind of tips off to

842
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 3: the defense that it's man to man coverage because he

843
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 3: probably isn't going to drop into zone from that. Spot

844
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: so that's an element of, IT i. Think but the teams,

845
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: consistently still in my, mind are getting favorable matchups by

846
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 3: The patriots being kind of these are our outside, corners

847
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 3: these are our inside, corners you, know and we're not

848
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: going to move off of, that Right and so at

849
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: some point like this, week if they Had, chase which

850
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: is WHY i Wanted chase to play BECAUSE i just

851
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: was excited to see how they would match. Up but

852
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: even this week with T, higgins T higgins does play

853
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: a little bit out of the, slot and they have

854
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: used him as like a big slot in the. Past

855
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 3: yoshivas is a big slot. Receiver, yeah he's not a

856
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: jitterbug slot. Receiver he's a bigger. Guy so are you

857
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: going to just stick to your? Structure Where Marcus jones

858
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: is your nickel and these are your outside corners and

859
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: that's just the way it. Is, well If i'm The,

860
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: Bengals i'm gonna put my six foot five receiver in

861
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: T higgins and my six foot three receiver In yoshivas

862
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: Against Marcus jones and your, safeties And i'm gonna take my, chances,

863
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: Right so you, GOT i think they have to button

864
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: that up if they're gonna play more man. COVERAGE i

865
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: know everybody's, asking, like why aren't they playing more man to?

866
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: Man you, know they're around like tenth or eleventh in

867
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 3: the league now and, man so it has gone up

868
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 3: a little, Bit but, like why aren't they more of

869
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: like you know that cat coverage that Very able talked

870
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: about at the beginning when they Signed Carlton. DAVIS i

871
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: think the biggest reason why is because they're giving up

872
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: a lot of yards in, man and a lot of

873
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: it is because of the. Matchups so when they were

874
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: at their peak and they were cooking in man, Coverage

875
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: belichick was the best at, understanding you, know we're gonna

876
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: we're gonna Have Stefan gilmour travel this week With Amari

877
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: cooper and if he's in the.

878
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: Slot that's we're okay with.

879
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 3: That we're gonna Have gilmore play in the, slot right

880
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: because that's their best, receiver or you, know in a

881
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: week like, this you, know this is more like The

882
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: revus Era, patriots but they used to do this a

883
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 3: ton where they would double the number one receiver with

884
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 3: their number two corner and then put revs on the

885
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 3: number two. Receiver so maybe this week It Carlton davis

886
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: would help on T higgins and Then gilmour On yoshivas

887
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: in the, slot, right like something like, That AND i

888
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 3: just that was What i'm still waiting to see them do,

889
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: routinely like going to a game Where gonzales shadows the

890
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: other team's best receiver shadows a receiver like eighty five

891
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: to ninety percent of the time instead of just like

892
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: sixty percent of the, time which is what it was

893
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 3: With Drake.

894
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: London SO i still think that that's a.

895
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 3: Concern the other kind of small casique concern THAT i,

896
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: had AND i thought it it was kind of. FUNNY

897
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: i was going to bring this up, anyways and Then

898
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: Dan orlovsky HAD i think they were doing a segment

899
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 3: on like all the team's fatal. Flaws, yeah in the playoff.

900
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: Picture his fatal flaw for The patriots was that they

901
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: were playing too much nickel. Defense so The patriots right

902
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: now are top five in the league and nickel defense.

903
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: Rate and he thought his takeaway was if a team Like,

904
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: baltimore if a team like The Indianapolis, colts if one

905
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: of those teams comes in here and just runs the

906
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: football consistently against The, patriots and The patriots are gonna

907
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: have a tough time stopping to run out of. NICKEL

908
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: i respect a, ton dan a. TON i think it's

909
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 3: the total. OPPOSITE i think it's the absolute total. Opposite

910
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: If i'm The patriots And I'm Mike rabel And indianapolis

911
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: wants to come in here and try to beat us

912
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: running the ball forty, TIMES i, say go right, ahead

913
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: please go, ahead do, it do.

914
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: IT i dare. You so they're not.

915
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: Stopping they're stopping to run for nickel in the regular,

916
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: season which means they won't be able to do it

917
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: in the. Playoffs If i'm to Understand, danier.

918
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: Well SO i get what he's, saying because it's all

919
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: about bodies on, bodies, Right you're talking about body types

920
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: and he's looking at The patriots defense and he's Seeing

921
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: Marcus jones at five foot eight, too you, know one

922
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty pounds playing the, nickel and he's, saying,

923
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: well If I'm, Indianapolis i'm going two tight ends And

924
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: i'm Getting.

925
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: Tyler warren on the, nickel and we're gonna be able

926
00:43:59,520 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: to move the.

927
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 3: Ball but the thing is is That patriots aren't giving

928
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 3: up a lot of yards in nickel against the. Run

929
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: they're like middle of the, pack but it's good enough

930
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: that they've been able to stay in nickel because they

931
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: don't get burned by. It so they're giving up around

932
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: FOUR i think it's like three point nine or four

933
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: yards to carry out of nickel so far this, season

934
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: which is like twelfth or thirteenth in the. League but to,

935
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 3: me the thing that's more concerning would be a team

936
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: that comes in here and says we're gonna throw the

937
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: ball fifty. Times. Right so that's Where i'm at with this.

938
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 3: DEFENSE i think their coverage is much more concerning than

939
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: their run, defense and the statistics backed that. Up BUT

940
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: i also just feel that way even against better, competition

941
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: their early down pass defense is twenty fourth in the

942
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 3: league AND. Epa so if you're gonna come in here

943
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: and beat The patriots in a playoff, game it's gonna

944
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: be aggressive first and second down pass. Defense like we're

945
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: not even gonna play third. Down we're just gonna throw

946
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: the ball on first down and we're gonna avoid third down.

947
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: Altogether if they come in here and try to run

948
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: the ball forty times against The, PATRIOTS i love. That

949
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 3: to score twenty points doing that And Drake may is

950
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: going to score twenty one and The patriots are going

951
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: to advance like, That that is totally fine by, me,

952
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: right if you're gonna run the. Football BUT i think

953
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 3: the interesting part about it, is you, know their pass

954
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: defense is something that continues to be a concerned to.

955
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: Me you, know overall their thirteenth and PASS epa their

956
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: twentieth and success, Rate but that doesn't adjust for the

957
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: level of competition that they've faced. Either they're twenty eighth

958
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: in the league IN dva against the, pass which does

959
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 3: adjest for the schedule and for the level of, competition

960
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: they're twenty fourth and early down PASS. Epa that to

961
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: me is that's the fatal flaw to the, defense is

962
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 3: if you can throw on first and second down consistently against,

963
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: Them they're giving.

964
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 2: Up a lot of yards and a lot of.

965
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: Plays we've also seen them some of. That how much

966
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: of that is because they're just playing some of this

967
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: like off loose coverage in those, situations which in big

968
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: games they've gone away. From like Against buffalo they didn't

969
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: really do. That SO i don't. Know Maybe i'm just maybe,

970
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: like what are the odds that we get to the

971
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: playoffs and suddenly that that off coverage isn't there?

972
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 3: ANYMORE i would. Hope so they played like forty percent

973
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 3: man coverage Against. Buffalo BUT i think the thing about

974
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: What i'm talking like the way that they approach, it,

975
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: THOUGH i think is like about how much do they

976
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: fear the receivers on the other, Team BECAUSE i think

977
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 3: they went into The buffalo game thinking their receivers were

978
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: kind of, trash, right and they were right about, that

979
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: and they kind Of that's played out over the course

980
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 3: of eleven weeks For buffalo for the most, part they've

981
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: had a lot of trouble with the receiver. Separation so

982
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: we talk a lot about zone versus, man like man

983
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: is about your. Personnel it's it's one on one, like

984
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: can you beat the opponent's personnel in? Man do you

985
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: have better receivers than they have defensive? Backs that? Day

986
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: zone is, scheme it's, instincts it's. Iq it's more of

987
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: like a thinking man's. Game when you get a lot

988
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 3: of zone. Coverage man to man is simply just do

989
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: we have better guys than?

990
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: You but even within, that like they've played off at,

991
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: times and they've played up at the line at, times

992
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: AND i would just like seeing them play a little more,

993
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: aggressive whether it's in man or zone own and not

994
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: give these big, cushions which again they did Against. Buffalo

995
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: do they bring that back at some point because a

996
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: lot of that you're talking about that first and second

997
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: down passing, Production, yep how much of that is they're

998
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: playing nine yards off in first and ten and allows

999
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: seven yard.

1000
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: Completion, yeah, no that that's Definitely i'm sure part of. It,

1001
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 3: now that's a successful. Play it's a successful.

1002
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: Play but isn't that kind of by design for the

1003
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,959
Speaker 1: defense like this bend don't break.

1004
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: THING i would assume.

1005
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: So but the question is is like when you play

1006
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: a quarterback in the, playoffs, who, yeah you know a

1007
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: good quarterback and not Bon. Nicks, Sorry i'm taking subtle

1008
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: shots at Bon. NIX i have, to.

1009
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: But Not Daniel jones necessarily doesn't concern me this. Way

1010
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: but this is.

1011
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: Why AND i know that you KNOW i made SOME

1012
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 3: i ruffled some feathers with this take, yesterday So i'll

1013
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: get your take on it as we segue into kind

1014
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 3: of talking about the WHOLE. AFC i said yesterday That

1015
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: i'd rather Play denver Than Kansas, city and everybody like

1016
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: kind of jumped down my throat about. It the reason

1017
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: Why i'd rather Play denver Than Kansas city is BECAUSE

1018
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: i don't think That Boone nicks can beat you throwing

1019
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: the ball fifty.

1020
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: Times so.

1021
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: WHERE i don't.

1022
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 3: CARE i don't know why everybody's so spooked by playing In.

1023
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 3: DENVER i don't want to go To. DENVER i still

1024
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 3: think big, pictures like twenty years ago The patriots lost

1025
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 3: a playoff game In.

1026
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: Denver EVERYBODY'S i don't want to.

1027
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: Play historic weird things have happened In. Denver everybody knows that, weird.

1028
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 2: Weird's happened In. DENVER i keep GETTING i keep.

1029
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 3: Here i'm, sorry LIKE i didn't realize, that Like Drake

1030
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: may And Mike rabel had weird things to happen In.

1031
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: DENVER i don't want to Play Kansas. City i'm with.

1032
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: YOU i simply don't want to Play Kansas. City you

1033
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: don't like that. Team you never, know they can flip a.

1034
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: Switch don't want to deal with it wherever here or.

1035
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: There Wherever, denver if they're coming, here, Yeah i'll Play denver.

1036
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: Here it's a young. Team they haven't like how many

1037
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: of these guys have experienced playing at.

1038
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 3: Altitude that is a.

1039
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: Fact they've been better on the road than that. Home,

1040
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: Okay denver's. Different denver's. Different it's not just playing on the.

1041
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: Road there's other fact is. There And i'm not saying

1042
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: that it's gonna be some. Colace they played on the

1043
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: Road Miami, tampa like these are fifty to fifty. Crowds

1044
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: that that, crowd.

1045
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: Well they never won In miami until they won in My.

1046
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: Okay that crowd was a. Difference, LOOK i we talked

1047
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: about the other. Week i'd rather go To indye Than.

1048
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: Denver is that?

1049
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: Not?

1050
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: Like, yeah if they have to go To i'm not

1051
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: saying they can't win In, denver BUT i. WOULD i

1052
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: would rather play In indy Than. Denver but, Yeah i'd

1053
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: rather Play indy Or denver wherever than The. Chiefs the

1054
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: teams that are lurking are The chiefs and The. Ravens

1055
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: you want them, out you want them. Missing if you're The,

1056
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: patriots you don't want them getting in the, playoffs both

1057
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: of them. Missing it's probably highly unlikely one of them.

1058
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: Missing it's on the. TABLE i don't think you know The.

1059
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: Chiefs they're five and, Five they've got a tough schedule coming.

1060
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: Up they're gonna have to FLIP i talked about them

1061
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: flipping the. Switch they're gonna have to flip the.

1062
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: Switch.

1063
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: Now the thing, is if they do get, in they're

1064
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: getting in red. Hot and do you want to play

1065
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: A chiefs team that suddenly has? Momentum So i'm with.

1066
00:49:59,000 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: YOU i don't want to play Kans.

1067
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 3: City YEAH i.

1068
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: DIDN'T i don't think it's TAKE i don't want to

1069
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: Play Kansas. CITY i don't think if you have to

1070
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: go To, DENVER i just don't think that's some like.

1071
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: Cakewalk OH i never said. IT i never said it.

1072
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: Was but if you're gonna make me, choose, Yeah i'd

1073
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: rather go To denver than go To Kansas.

1074
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 3: City my whole point about it is just looking at,

1075
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: this it's a styles wins fights kind of.

1076
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: Thing that's what the playoffs.

1077
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: Is it's one game and, Out so it's a style

1078
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: wins fight kind of, thing like what is the? Matchup

1079
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 3: AND i look at The patriots AND i look at

1080
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 3: their vulnerabilities and if you're going to be in a

1081
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 3: game against, It AND i would say The colts, too

1082
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: Because I'M i know they're the number one offense and.

1083
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 3: Everything Daniel jones having, This Sam, darnold you Know renaissance

1084
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: SEASON i or you, know reclamation, season whatever you want

1085
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: to call.

1086
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: IT i get. That but the way That.

1087
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: Denver In indianapolis win at this rate is complimentary. Football

1088
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 3: it's good, defense it's good run, game it's good support

1089
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 3: for the. Quarterback and, ultimately when it comes down to,

1090
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 3: IT i think more times than not in the, playoffs

1091
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: it's really passing game verus passing. Game it's which quarterback

1092
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 3: plays better that, day which passing game plays better that.

1093
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: Day and If i'm looking at the way That patriots,

1094
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 3: lose that's the way to me The patriots lose is

1095
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: not necessarily That drake may gets, outdueled but that their

1096
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: defense can't.

1097
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: Stop the other, well but some of it is also

1098
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: where like this is where the location. Matters you, say

1099
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: it's passing game verus passing. Game if you're In denver

1100
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: or it's here Or Kansas, city, cold, snow freezing, rain

1101
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: wind like. Those you can't just rely on your pass

1102
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: game in the playoffs in some of.

1103
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: These, yeah but everybody's going to be playing in the same, elements.

1104
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: Right but like my point is is JUST i think

1105
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: the way that The patriots get tripped up in the,

1106
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: playoffs the way that they're built right. Now is WHAT

1107
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: i keep saying is if a team is able to

1108
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: throw the ball forty five to fifty times against them

1109
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: and is really good at throwing the ball that, day

1110
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 3: they're gonna. Lose, yeah that's the WAY i look at,

1111
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 3: it because.

1112
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: Then you would rather Play denver Than. Indy, YES i

1113
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: will SEE i disagree with.

1114
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 4: That.

1115
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 3: NOW i would still take The patriots in a game

1116
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 3: again and Against indy, too here or.

1117
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: THERE I i'd rather Play indy here or. There i'm with.

1118
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: YOU i.

1119
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: Defense defense carries in the, playoffs and.

1120
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: They have a great. Defense they have a Great denver.

1121
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: Defense like in The colts. Defense by the way is not.

1122
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: Bad middle of the.

1123
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: Pack it's.

1124
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: Fine, yeah a little, more you, know somewhere ten to,

1125
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: fifteen somewhere in that. RANGE i guess that's middle of the.

1126
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: Pack The denver like a good, defense would be a

1127
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: real threat in to, play especially when you get outside,

1128
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: again Like i'm gonna bring up The Elements. League i'd

1129
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: rather play The colts here or. There, yeah, NO i

1130
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: don't agree.

1131
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 5: THAT i.

1132
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: Don't we talked about, this Like drake may in a.

1133
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: DOME i feel pretty good about that Against Daniel. JONES

1134
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: i don't want to go To. DENVER i don't want

1135
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 1: to Play Kansas city Or. Baltimore but if you're gonna

1136
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: make me Choose Kansas city Or, DENVER i i'd rather

1137
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: play The. Broncos BUT i do not feel. GOOD i,

1138
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: Mean i'm not say it's a game they can't, win

1139
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: BUT i don't FEEL i don't feel great about having

1140
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: to go To. DENVER i certainly. Don't that's you, know

1141
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: to add to, it talk about rooting interests For patriots

1142
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: fans down. Stretch let's say The patriots don't get the one,

1143
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: seed you're rooting for The. Colts if Your patriots fan

1144
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: over The. Broncos you're absolutely rooting for The colts to

1145
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: get that over The.

1146
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 3: Broncos, YEAH i just don't know IF i if you're a,

1147
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 3: team AND i don't think That.

1148
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 2: Denver denver's.

1149
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: Weird like their offense is terrible for three quarters and

1150
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: then is great in the fourth quarter every, week and

1151
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 3: that's just their formula right. Now, Yeah and the numbers

1152
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 3: back that, up like IT'S i looked this up last

1153
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 3: night that Bo knicks is like twenty sixth in the

1154
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 3: league AND epa in the first three quarters and then

1155
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 3: like seventh in the league in the fourth. Quarter it's really.

1156
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: Bizarre there are. Splits but BECAUSE i only wins if

1157
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 3: they can run the. Ball, yeah, right that that's their.

1158
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: FORMULA i would say the same thing About jacksonville Because

1159
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 3: jacksonville's relevant just they might.

1160
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: Play JACKSON i mean they're in the playoffs right. Now

1161
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: sit here To jacksonville only wins the wins when they

1162
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: run the. Ball, indye everything About india is off their run.

1163
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: Game it's All Jonathan taylor is the engine of that.

1164
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: Offense and then they scheme up easy kind of layup

1165
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: thros For Daniel jones off Of Jonathan taylor in the

1166
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: run game, Again, like do you really think that Bo

1167
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: nicks could go against The patriots and shred The patriots pass?

1168
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: Defense so actually really make that weakness a. Weakness, here

1169
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: here's WHY i Think denver is so much better late

1170
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: in games because they the way they play these, games

1171
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: it's their. Defense all these games are, close there's pressure

1172
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: on the other. Team he kind of knows he just

1173
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: has to make one or two. PLAYS i think he

1174
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: handles the pressure. WELE i think making sixty starts in

1175
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: college serves him. Well but The patriots may be able

1176
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: to stress That denver defense more in other teams and

1177
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: put it more on Bo nix's.

1178
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 2: PLATE i would just dare.

1179
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 3: IT i would take my Chances darren Bow knicks to

1180
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: beat me in the playoff.

1181
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: Game compared To Patrick.

1182
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,479
Speaker 3: Mahomes you're, saying, YEAH i mean, Yeah, Okay well THAT

1183
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 3: i was told THAT i was crazy for having this

1184
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: opinion the.

1185
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: Record, well and here's the, Thing.

1186
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: And that's WHY i don't Want. MAHOMES i don't Want.

1187
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 3: LAMAR i would, SAY i know they're falling, apart like The.

1188
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 3: CHARGERS i don't want any of the good. Quarterback, yeah

1189
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 3: The chargers are gonna have to come. HERE i don't

1190
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 3: WANT i would take The. Patriots we've seen.

1191
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: What happens when The chargers come, here and the call

1192
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: that one doesn't.

1193
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: Scare me so.

1194
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 3: Much any of the good quarterbacks BECAUSE i think the

1195
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: only that is the biggest weakness on this team is

1196
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 3: The patriots pass, defense AND i don't want any of

1197
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: those good quarterbacks here.

1198
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: Here here's the weird thing about The chiefs to, Me

1199
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: and this is why IF i had guess why some

1200
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: people maybe reacted to your take a certain. Way they

1201
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: look at A chiefs team right, now that's five and.

1202
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: Five they haven't scored more than thirty points in a,

1203
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: game and how long has it been a? Minute and

1204
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: so they see that and they, say, well this isn't

1205
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: the same Ould. Chiefs The chiefs, Suck they're not what they.

1206
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: Were so get them in the playoffs and you get

1207
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: a weekend version of that. Team if The chiefs really are,

1208
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: that they're not going to make the. Playoffs and it

1209
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: won't be an issue if The chiefs get in the

1210
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: playoffs because of where they are right, now five and,

1211
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,439
Speaker 1: five the nine seed in THE. AFC i almost send

1212
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: The east in THE. Afc, well then they started playing,

1213
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: better and then they clearly are close to the team

1214
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: they've been the last. Year so, yeah, ideally, YES i

1215
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: would love to play a Bad chiefs team in the.

1216
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: Playoffs that'd be great because they're a bad. Team that's

1217
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: an important. Qualifier if The chiefs getting the, playoffs they're

1218
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: not going to be the bad version of themselves to

1219
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: win games, here to get pay down the, stretch they

1220
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: had to make a, run, right, question are the twenty Eighteen?

1221
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: Patriots are they twenty Nineteen? Patriots but even if it's

1222
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: like they're.

1223
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: The Nineteen patriots are undefeated at this.

1224
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: Nineteen is probably a bad. Example, now are they.

1225
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: Like the two thousand and Nine?

1226
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: Patriots are they the team that just falls off at the?

1227
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: End if they're bad enough That i'm comfortable playing. Them

1228
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: by this, way if The chiefs are playing bad enough

1229
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: football at the end of the year That i'd be

1230
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: comfortable playing. Them odds are there not in the playoffs

1231
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: to begin?

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Speaker 3: ARRANS i, believe So i'm gonna go at that. PRONUNCIATION

1302
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 3: a few other things about these games this. Weekend it

1303
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 3: was fun to watch some of this other football this.

1304
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 3: WEEKEND i just have to vent about. THIS i Thought

1305
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 3: Tampa bay The bills were who we thought they, were

1306
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 3: and they let them off the. Hook.

1307
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: Me, yeah The bucks just it was.

1308
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 3: Painful three different Times Todd bowles went against the math

1309
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 3: and punted the football back To, buffalo, win against common,

1310
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 3: sense and and got burned all three. TIMES i felt

1311
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: myself sitting there watching this game with The bucks and

1312
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 3: just thankful that The patriots Have Mike rabel And stretch

1313
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 3: running the show on these, decisions because The patriots would

1314
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 3: never have punted the ball back on fourth and. Two

1315
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 3: The Josh allen in a five point game midway through

1316
01:00:59,320 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: the fourth.

1317
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: Quarter enough to remember when you were worried about the

1318
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: dinosaur hardow football.

1319
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 3: COUCH i, know, WELL i didn't really know too much

1320
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: About John striker at.

1321
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: That we're not familiar with his.

1322
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 2: GAME i wasn't. Familiar you can't quit Strike you.

1323
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: Just can't Have Josh allen throwing chest passes out of

1324
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: his own end zone and let The bills beat.

1325
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 3: You so they punted the ball back uh To buffalo with.

1326
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 3: UH i think it was like six or seven minutes

1327
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: left fourth and. Two yeah From mike about their Forty

1328
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 3: So i'll give just behind.

1329
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: Midfield, yeah like they were on their their side of the.

1330
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: Field i'll give him. That but they punned the ball

1331
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 2: back To Josh.

1332
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 3: Allen their defense hasn't Stopped Josh allen basically all day

1333
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 3: except for the second. Half, again stopped him the second,

1334
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 3: half and He Josh allen takes the, ball he goes eight,

1335
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 3: plays seventy five, yards, touchdown game over warm up the

1336
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 3: buzsts and like thanks for, Coming Todd. Bowles SO i was,

1337
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 3: obviously like Every patriots fan probably rooting really hard for

1338
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 3: The bucks to win that game against The. Bills AND

1339
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: i thought The bucks kind of gave that game. AWAY

1340
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: i thought they.

1341
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: Had at Y, YEAH i, mean they were the better

1342
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: team for most of that, game you, Know but, also

1343
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: what does it say about where The bills are as a.

1344
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: Whole Josh allen had to count for six touchdowns basically by,

1345
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: himself and they still barely beat A tampa team that

1346
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: was trying to hand them the.

1347
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 3: Game, yeah, LIKE i, don't.

1348
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 2: Well, there The bills defense has.

1349
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: Issues, No that's What i'm, Saying, like you come out

1350
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: of that if Your bills, fay you feel. Good, Look

1351
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: Josh allen played horribly the first quarter and then was.

1352
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: Awesome credit where credits? Do how do you feel about

1353
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 1: the rest of the Roster guy's not Named Josh? Allen

1354
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: after that?

1355
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 3: Game not. GREAT i didn't think they ran the ball

1356
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 3: particularly well, either outside of The Josh allen, Runs LIKE

1357
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 3: i got.

1358
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 2: That The, bills, no they're.

1359
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: There their handoff run game has not been as good

1360
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: the last couple of. WEEKS i think the one GUY

1361
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: i do cut That Tyrrel shaver's guy's not. Bad, yeah

1362
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: he gets, open he's got some. Size he's like.

1363
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 3: Now they were playing Without, Kincaid WHO'S i think not

1364
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 3: gonna Play tomorrow Night thursday night for them. Either, yeah

1365
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 3: so he's dealing with an. Injury that The bill's, defense

1366
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: their run, defense and their coverage on running. BACKS i,

1367
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 3: mean your, Boy Sean tucker had the game of his.

1368
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 3: Life Sean tucker is a good back, man trying to

1369
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 3: tell you might be. Good he had the game of his, life,

1370
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 3: though or the breakout game of his, LIFE i should,

1371
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 3: say and their interior run defense got treaded by A

1372
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 3: chan the week, before it got threaded By tucker this

1373
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 3: week That bill's defense has some Problems.

1374
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: Henderson so, yeah, no, wait, wrong get, sorry never, MIND

1375
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: i was thinking of The.

1376
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 3: Bucks, Well i'm thinking That Travon henderson will do that

1377
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 3: to them in week.

1378
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: Fifteen, yeah, no it'd be. Great, yeah, LOOK i GET

1379
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: I i'm making Sure i'm saying this so that people

1380
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: interpret this. Right Josh, allen after two really bad, passes played,

1381
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: well played really. Well he had a play at a historic.

1382
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 3: Level you, know it's big of you that you have

1383
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 3: to put the context in, there because not everybody does put,

1384
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 3: those you, know his first couple of drives in.

1385
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: There he had to play at a historic level for.

1386
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: THEM i know they they they win by. TEN i

1387
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: think ultimately was a forty four to thirty, four but

1388
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: there was a late garbage Time Josh allen to give

1389
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: them a historic. Game for them to barely beat A

1390
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: tampa team that again was kind of trying to give

1391
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: the game away doesn't bode well long term because that's

1392
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: not that game's not sustainable That Josh allen.

1393
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 3: Had he's not going to do that every. Week so

1394
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 3: that's how this has Been buffalo's biggest. Problem AND i

1395
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 3: say this as somebody that comes at it and everybody

1396
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 3: calls me a Closet bills, fan so like this is

1397
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 3: not super, closet, Right so this is coming from a

1398
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 3: not A u place of just constant negativity towards The.

1399
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 3: Bills the biggest issue for The bills year in and

1400
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: year out is that they Need Josh allen.

1401
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 2: To wear The superman cap a little bit too. Much

1402
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 2: like they need, Him that's What i'm.

1403
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 3: Saying in order to go on the run that they

1404
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 3: want to go, on he needs to play like he

1405
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: did On sunday Against tampa and maybe not score, forty

1406
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 3: but he needs.

1407
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: To play a roll at this defense he.

1408
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: Might he needs to play a great.

1409
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 3: Game, Yeah and when you get into the playoffs and

1410
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 3: you play good defenses and you play good, teams it's

1411
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 3: hard to string together three four peak games in a.

1412
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 3: Row that's not easy to. Do and they have not

1413
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: been able to lift him up. Enough they're their coaching,

1414
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: staff their front. Office, uh that fan base is starting

1415
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 3: to turn not On, allen a little bit On alan. Honestly,

1416
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 3: yeah BUT i think they realize that this is systemic

1417
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 3: and that this is like bigger Than Josh. Allen, Uh

1418
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 3: and they're Not they're not gonna move on From Josh

1419
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 3: allen like that this is their quarterback for the next ten,

1420
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 3: Years like no one's he wants to move. On they're

1421
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 3: McDermott and And Brandon bean are in a little bit of.

1422
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 3: Trouble yeah, There AND i know they won the game and.

1423
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: Fire McDermot two years, Ago but that's the. Thing you

1424
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: they have these expectations now.

1425
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 3: If they lose the division and then losing the wild

1426
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 3: card round in the first round and they're a one

1427
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 3: and done, TEAM i have a hard time believing that

1428
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 3: they survived.

1429
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 4: That.

1430
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: NO i had a hard time believing at the last

1431
01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: two times than they did.

1432
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 3: So but they that was. Different they won the division

1433
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 3: every time we sat team in the.

1434
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: League this time is.

1435
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 3: Different AND i think that the biggest thing too with

1436
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 3: those two guys is they both came From carolina ten

1437
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 3: years ago, Together like this is a package, deal, Right

1438
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: like being Is mcdermot's guy and McDermott's bean's. Guy SO

1439
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 3: i don't think you can have one without the. OTHER

1440
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 3: i don't think this is gonna be a giant, situation.

1441
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: But they've both had. Missteps, yeah you, know it's not

1442
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: like it's. FUNNY i think The giants And dolphins got

1443
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: their firings. Backwards, yeah The dolphins fired THEIR gm kept

1444
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: their head coach even though they had some talent on that,

1445
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: roster they just didn't know how to use. It whereas The,

1446
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: GIANTS i thought it had a good head, coach but

1447
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: he had nothing to work with and so they keep

1448
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: the guy that you know moved on From Saquon barkley

1449
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: only to Pay Sterling. Shepherd and, YEAH i thought that

1450
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: they got those, backwards but you're, right And buffalo is

1451
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: probably a full cleaning of the.

1452
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 3: House, well, SEE i know we're talking about that after

1453
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 3: they won a game but went new clear and that's

1454
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 3: how they. Went i'm glad we're talking about it.

1455
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: Because my whole point about The, bills and this is

1456
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: why they annoy. Me we treated them so long like

1457
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: the little engine that, could when they were clearly supposed

1458
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: to be. More, yeah and now we're you want to

1459
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: be the you want to be the kings of THE.

1460
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: Afc this is how we're going to talk about. You

1461
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 1: you're gonna get ripped after you win a game because

1462
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: you went by. Enough happened to The patriots. Plenty so

1463
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit About Kansas. City denver Already Kansas.

1464
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 3: CITY i know right now the hot topic is whether

1465
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 3: or Not Kansas city is going to make the. Playoffs

1466
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 3: it's legitimate. Conversation you, know they have a tough. Road

1467
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 3: their streak of nine straight division titles is definitely. OVER

1468
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 3: i know it's it's not technically mathematically over, yet but

1469
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 3: it's it's. Over do you?

1470
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: Know there was one mathematically thing that happened in the

1471
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: standings this week went very under the. Radar, well The

1472
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: titans got eliminated from the. Playoffs, officially The.

1473
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 3: Jets could get eliminated from the playoffs this. Week Kansas,

1474
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 3: city but even the two and nine giants are still.

1475
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 3: Alive we talked a little bit About Kansas city And,

1476
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 3: Denver baltimore And. CLEVELAND i dot was an interesting. Game

1477
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 3: cleveland has zero. Offense, Yeah chador Was chador in the second.

1478
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 3: Half you, know you don't expect him to play well

1479
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 3: in that, spot but he did not play. Well and

1480
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 3: The ravens have won four straight, games and so now

1481
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 3: they're kind of climbing back into this they're coming back

1482
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 3: into THE Afc.

1483
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,879
Speaker 1: North, well The ravens are, ALSO i, mean The ravens

1484
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: were weird Because lamar. Was they weren't. Bad they're not

1485
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: like The texans or The, chiefs who are you, know

1486
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 1: who were, losing who were like outright losing. Games they

1487
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: ain't have their starting quarterback and their backup quarterbacks aren't.

1488
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: Good so you, know even the bay you, know they're

1489
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 1: more like The. Bengals they JUST i don't want to see

1490
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: neither DO. I But lamar threw two picks in this.

1491
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: Game he was not efficient in this.

1492
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 3: Game there's still something weirdly off About like The ravens

1493
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 3: are kind of in the similar category As Kansas city

1494
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,839
Speaker 3: where just and easily that switch cand in two. Seconds,

1495
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 3: yeah but for right, now it doesn't feel like it's their.

1496
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: Year the brown defense is good, though The browns defense

1497
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: is pretty.

1498
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 3: Good it's, good But lamar on When lamar Is, Lamar

1499
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 3: lamar is ripping apart The browns, defense especially with the

1500
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 3: amount of opportunities he gets because The browns can't score

1501
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 3: and can't move the. Ball it was just again Like

1502
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 3: baltimore won the. Game they're taking care of. Business they've

1503
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 3: won four in a. Row he did not look Like.

1504
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 3: Lamar he looked a little. RUSTY i.

1505
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: THOUGHT i still didn't look like it's totally like.

1506
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: Himself, yeah what do you think of The. JAGUARS i don't.

1507
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: Know they're kind of. There they're. Fine they don't play.

1508
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: Consistent i'm not gonna win the, division so that kind Of.

1509
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: YEAH i can't get worked up out like they're not.

1510
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: BAD i don't think they're. Bad there's a very good

1511
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: chance of. There The patriots round certainly not. Good remember

1512
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: when they played was IT o seven that they played

1513
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: him here and it was, like, hey The jags are

1514
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 1: good again and it was this fun little story and

1515
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: they blew the doors off.

1516
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 3: Them that was definitely during the first part to The.

1517
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 3: Dynasty they played them again earlier BECAUSE i was at the,

1518
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 3: game it was, like.

1519
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 1: Tend To David guard and, yeah it's kind of one

1520
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: of those teams were, like all, right they have their

1521
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: weeks and that's nice and they've played kind of an easier.

1522
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 3: Schedule, yeah they they run the.

1523
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 1: Ball, Well i'm not convinced that you.

1524
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: Know who running all over the.

1525
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: Place you know who does actually a TEAM i am

1526
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: fascinated with at this point is The.

1527
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 3: Texans we'll get to them in a second really. Quickly

1528
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 3: on The, jaguars BECAUSE i want to just take a

1529
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,440
Speaker 3: second with The, jaguars because if it were to.

1530
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: Start, Today, yeah that would be the, matchup that.

1531
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 2: Would be the. MATCHUP i know it doesn't but if it.

1532
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 3: Would if it, did then it would Be Patriots jaguars

1533
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 3: here At gillette In round one of the. Playoffs they

1534
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 3: run the ball really, well AND i think one of

1535
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 3: the biggest things that has changed for them In jacksonville

1536
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 3: is they've stopped trying to Make Trevor lawrence the engine

1537
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 3: to the offense and they've kind of turned the offense

1538
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 3: over to the running game and then they Sprinkled Trevor

1539
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 3: lawrence in. There so now they're team is a lot more.

1540
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 3: Balanced it's a lot more kind of built Like, indy

1541
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 3: where it's good running game, play, action move the pocket scheme,

1542
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 3: up you, know easy plays For Trevor lawrence and not

1543
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 3: Asked Trevor lawrence to drop back forty five times and

1544
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 3: be AN. Mvp and they've been able to do that

1545
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 3: now in this game and in every single game. Recently

1546
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 3: Justin herbert has just been absolutely under. Siege you, know

1547
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 3: The colts have had all sorts Of Colts chargers of,

1548
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 3: it all sorts of injuries on their offensive. Line they

1549
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 3: can't block anybody The. Chargers so they Made Justin herbert

1550
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 3: look very ordinary in this. Game BUT i think a

1551
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 3: lot of that has to do with The chargers more

1552
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 3: than it does.

1553
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: With jacksonville's Seve West coast Team. East, yep that was

1554
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: a FACTOR i should have played in. There But jacksonville

1555
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: can run the football they. Had they play in that

1556
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: same you, Know Liam cohne did it in In. Tampa

1557
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: it's it's A West coast.

1558
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 3: Offense it's McVeigh shanahan ish and they just play in

1559
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 3: that same system where it's like the quarterback is kind

1560
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 3: of some, weeks the quarterback just kind of into a

1561
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 3: passenger and is just there to hit the right button

1562
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 3: on the controller and not screw anything.

1563
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: Up, YEAH i mean they've also kind of. Struggled you,

1564
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: Know Brian thomas falling off has hurt them a. LOT

1565
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: i think they're count him to take a. Jump who's

1566
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: Hurt hunter drafts. Center so that that was their first

1567
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: REGULAR i know it's not, hockey but like that was

1568
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: their first winning regulation since they beat The chiefs In week.

1569
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: Five they're two and three since that. Game one of

1570
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: those wins was an overtime win Against, vegas which is

1571
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 1: not a good. Team so they're just they got a

1572
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: nice little bump at the beginning of the. SEASON i

1573
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: feel like they're trending in the wrong direction even with that.

1574
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: WIN i feel like they're. Trained, look they'll get a

1575
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 1: little momentum. Here they're at The, cardinals they're at The

1576
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: titans the next two. Weeks but they still got to

1577
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: play The colts. Twice they still got to play The. Broncos,

1578
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: like we'll see where they end. Up so h you Mentioned, Houston,

1579
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: yeah So. Houston i'm kind of starting to get to

1580
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: the point too With. Houston i'm, LIKE i don't really

1581
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: want to See houston in the. Playoffs great, defense it's

1582
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: a great. Defense great. Defense good teams can win with backup.

1583
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: QUARTERBACKS i don't mean this AGAINST. Cj, stroud but like

1584
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 1: they're two and oh With Davis. Mills, yeah good teams

1585
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: find ways to win With.

1586
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 2: They did be The, titans, okay but.

1587
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: Good teams find ways to win with backup. Quarterbacks, yeah

1588
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: it's a good you, know they've got size in their passing,

1589
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: Game Dalton schultz is very, Involved Nico collins a big.

1590
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: Receiver Xavier hutchinson's a big. Guy patriots have struggled with,

1591
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: that you, know with some of these bigger receiver. Corps you,

1592
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: Know i'd still probably take The patriots against, them especially

1593
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: if it's up, here AND I houston is probably not

1594
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: winning the. Division but like we talk about the teams

1595
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: that are figuring it, out the teams we expected to

1596
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: be better that aren't that are figuring it, Out houston.

1597
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: Is houston's figuring it out more than Like Kansas city.

1598
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: IS i would Say houston, is uh has.

1599
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 3: It you, know they're not winning as, much but they

1600
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 3: have a similar formid To. Denver the, well great, defense

1601
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 3: great pass, rush and they get you, know if they get,

1602
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 3: clutch you, know timely quarterback play and from their, offense

1603
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 3: and they're gonna win.

1604
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: Games so they were to kind of look at. Recently

1605
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 1: so they started. Bad they were bad to start. Season

1606
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: they started zero to. Three they're five and two since

1607
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: and their only losses are At, seattle which is a tough. Game,

1608
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: yeah And seattle's a really good.

1609
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 6: Team.

1610
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 1: Ye and then they had a three point loss to The. Broncos,

1611
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: yeah but they. Bleed they've blown doors against pretty much everybody.

1612
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: Else they're they're trending in the right. Direction they're absolutely

1613
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: trending in the Right no.

1614
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 3: Strat out again On Thursday Night football against The. Bills

1615
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 3: it would Be Davis.

1616
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: Mills it sucks so, That, yeah this will be a

1617
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:36,799
Speaker 1: big one for. Them this will be yeah.

1618
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 3: If they if they hang With buffalo or Beat, buffalo

1619
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 3: then they're all the going in the right.

1620
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: Direction you're ready for. This their next three games are

1621
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 1: gonna find out just how real they. Are the next

1622
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: three games home Against, buffalo but it's a short, week

1623
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 1: then At, indy then At Kansas.

1624
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: City i'm really interested to see this.

1625
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 3: Game, uh you, know even With Davis mills for The,

1626
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 3: bills because The bills have not traveled well this.

1627
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 2: Year there their offense is not.

1628
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 1: Scored have seen the conspiracy theory On twitter that The

1629
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 1: bills never play on the.

1630
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 3: Road they they they don't travel well on the. Road, no, no, no, no.

1631
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: No this is this is one of my favorite things

1632
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: on social media that there's this one guy that constantly

1633
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: points out like and it does feel like it when

1634
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 1: he points it.

1635
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: Out you see it when they play in big games

1636
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 2: in prime, time they're at.

1637
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: Home when's, like can you think of every time you

1638
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: See bill's highlights on the, timeline it's at. Home you

1639
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: never See bill's highlights the road.

1640
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i think their biggest games are usually at.

1641
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: Home that, Well so that's part of, it AND i

1642
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: think it's a recency bias thing. There they play for

1643
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: their next five games on the. Road their schedule was

1644
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: front loaded with home. Games BUT i don't, KNOW i

1645
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: just get a kick out of, That like there was

1646
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: a clip of The bills this week and somebody's, like

1647
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: the guy just pulls like again every single week with.

1648
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,799
Speaker 3: This SO i think they average something like six points

1649
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 3: a game less on the road than they do at.

1650
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 3: Home so this will be an interesting game In houston

1651
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 3: because that's a great, defense you, know home road, split

1652
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 3: it would tell you with that in the great defense

1653
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 3: in the short. Week, yeah and it does sound like

1654
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 3: No kate again that this would be a game that

1655
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 3: would be a little bit of a slog For.

1656
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 1: Buffalo it's gonna sound. Crazy who's a bigger loss kN Cater.

1657
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 3: Stroud, Stroud But kai's a good player.

1658
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: Gap closer than maybe people would. Realize, well Because Davis

1659
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 1: mills is playing.

1660
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 4: Well.

1661
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: Again it's nothing As, stroud But Davis mills is playing.

1662
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: Well he's playing all right for a, backup he's playing.

1663
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 3: Well, yeah last one here kind of segue into talking

1664
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 3: a little bit about The Bengals Pittsburgh. CINCINNATI i still

1665
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 3: kind of come away from watching This pittsburgh team and

1666
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 3: just think That Aaron rodgers is just kind of bluh

1667
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 3: every TIME i watch.

1668
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: Him he's gonna be playing with a broken wrist now.

1669
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 3: Too it just doesn't blow me away when you, know

1670
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 3: in this game Against cincinnati in the first, HALF i

1671
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 3: didn't think he was great in this, game and the

1672
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 3: numbers back it. Up you, know they were much better

1673
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 3: in the second half With Mason rudolph than they were

1674
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 3: in the first half Of Aaron.

1675
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 2: Rodgers he's causing a lot of.

1676
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 3: Pressure he's kind of a sitting duck back, there and

1677
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 3: he's under siege a lot in some of these. Games

1678
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 3: they are like one of those weird offenses, too where

1679
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 3: they have guys that have great build up, speed but

1680
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 3: outside Of Calvin, austin they don't have a lot of

1681
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,560
Speaker 3: guys that have instant, speed so like their offense is

1682
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 3: kind of slow for ten. Yards, yeah and then Once

1683
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 3: Darnell washington AND Dk metcalf get the train roll, in

1684
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 3: like then there are. Guys those guys can build up

1685
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 3: speed and pick up speed down the. FIELD i don't

1686
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 3: know what to make Of. Pittsburgh they're The Tomlin steelers

1687
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 3: through and. Through they're gonna go like nine and, eight

1688
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 3: ten and seven like they do every single. YEAR i

1689
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 3: think they're kind of a Paper, Tiger but who the hell.

1690
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 3: Knows it just it's the same thing with The steelers

1691
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 3: IF i was The steelers, though regardless of This rogers,

1692
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 3: injury BECAUSE i don't think he was playing particularly great

1693
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 3: before the injury. Either you, know you're looking over your

1694
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 3: shoulder At baltimore and you're worried That baltimore is coming

1695
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 3: for the.

1696
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 1: Division how awesome was That Darnel washington catch and? Run?

1697
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 3: Though oh that was so?

1698
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: Cool but, YEAH i love.

1699
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 3: That but like it's it's a lot of multiple tight.

1700
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: Ends, NO i agree with everything you. Said it's a

1701
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: lot Of.

1702
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 3: Metcalf LIKE i just was watching the first half on

1703
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 3: film of The Steeler bengals AND i was, like this

1704
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 3: is the historically Bad bengals.

1705
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 2: Defense everybody keeps telling me about there was nobody.

1706
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: OPEN i see what The steelers want to. Be they're

1707
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 1: not good enough defensive. Lead they basically want to be The. Broncos,

1708
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: yeah they're not good enough defensively to be that. Team

1709
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 1: they turned the ball so season ending knee surgery For MICHAEL.

1710
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 3: Pennockx yeah that's. TOUGH i have Some falcons. TAKES i

1711
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 3: don't know if we're gonna have time for it, today

1712
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 3: but uh the uh, yeah The. STEELERS i don't know

1713
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 3: IF i IF i had to pick it right, NOW

1714
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 3: i picked The.

1715
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 2: Ravens to win that. DIVISION i think The ravens are

1716
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 2: gonna come back.

1717
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: Too uh, WELL i guess real quick here to put

1718
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 1: is that all THE afc games are gonna talk.

1719
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: About, yeah who do you like in THE nfc right?

1720
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 2: Now just big?

1721
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: Picture we don't have to break down all the big.

1722
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: Games BUT i mean we Got. RAMSEYAHAWKS i like The.

1723
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 2: RAMS i think The rams defense is.

1724
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 3: Leball obviously have McVeigh And, Stafford, Yeah pooka And adams on,

1725
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 3: Offense Kyan williams, LIKE i think that's a really talented.

1726
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 3: TEAM i think they're the best team in the in THE.

1727
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 3: Nfc And i'm not just saying that because they just Beat.

1728
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 2: Seattle, NO i think they.

1729
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 3: ARE i could just trust their their infrastructure more Than.

1730
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 3: Seattle's you, know McVeigh has been, There stafford has been.

1731
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 3: There we still haven't Seen darnald win a meaningful. Game

1732
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 3: he cleans up against all these crappy. Teams the second that,

1733
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 3: he you, know plays a meaningful, game he crafts his

1734
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 3: pants jets Tam.

1735
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: Darnold how worried Should philly? Be something doesn't look. RIGHT

1736
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: i know they're, winning but something. Doesn't all their defense.

1737
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 3: Has been, great and you Know Vic fangio is awesome,

1738
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 3: yea and their defense has been, great but it's gonna

1739
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 3: be hard to win in the playoffs with that kind of.

1740
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 3: Offense AND i think the biggest difference For philly is

1741
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 3: that they're not running the ball like they did last.

1742
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 3: Year And barkley's not having the same kind of season

1743
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 3: as he had last, year and their offensive line has

1744
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 3: taken a step. Back and Now Lane johnson has A

1745
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 3: Liz frank, injury like that's those are hard. Injuries, yeah

1746
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 3: those are bad ones like that could linger he could

1747
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 3: be out a. While so they Don't they're not, physical,

1748
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 3: like they're not people moving on the offensive line like

1749
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 3: they were last. Year there's just something off about that run.

1750
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 3: GAME i know a lot of people think that they

1751
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 3: need to run hurts, more BUT i think they're kind

1752
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 3: of saving that for the higher stakes games later on

1753
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 3: in the season right now that they're you, KNOW A. J.

1754
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 3: Brown this is a little bit of a hot, take

1755
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 3: But i'd be a little bit buyer beware ON Aj.

1756
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 2: BROWN i LOVE A. J.

1757
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 3: BROWN i think HE Aj brown's one of my been

1758
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 3: one of my favorite players in the league for years.

1759
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 3: Now it doesn't look, great AND i know. This the

1760
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 3: system doesn't help, him and like the scheme is not

1761
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 3: helping him a. Ton but he used to be one

1762
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 3: of the best go ball receivers in the league and

1763
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 3: he's just not.

1764
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: Anymore so is that you, know he's twenty eight years.

1765
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: Old he's not that. Old and, yeah is that a

1766
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: physical thing or is it a mental? Thing IS i

1767
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: this is a bad COMP i hate to use, it

1768
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: but it just came to my. Head is He Randy

1769
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 1: moss In? Vegas?

1770
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 3: Sure or In? Oakland?

1771
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 2: Maybe BUT I I i.

1772
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 3: Just watch him AND i don't think he moves very

1773
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 3: well or as, WELL i should, say as he used to,

1774
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 3: yeah he. DOESN'T i don't see the same. BURST i

1775
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 3: don't see the same. Explosion you, know they like they're

1776
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 3: he used to be a go ball in slant automatic

1777
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 3: like and he would certain he would sequence those off

1778
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 3: of each, other and he didn't know if it was a,

1779
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 3: goof if it was a, slant and he'd catch and

1780
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 3: run on those slants and he would just be out,

1781
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 3: right like he would just be. Gone and now you

1782
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 3: watch them, run you, know run their, offense and like

1783
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 3: these corners are just sitting all over these slant routes

1784
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 3: like he's got no. Separation it's not a hot take

1785
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 3: to Say DeVante smith is the better receiver, now like

1786
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 3: he absolutely. Is like that's not no longer a hot

1787
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 3: take to say. That so IF i was The, EAGLES

1788
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 3: i would just be worried that your stars aren't starring

1789
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 3: right now on. Offense Just Brown barkley, hurts like those

1790
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 3: guys are not playing to their superstardom at the.

1791
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 2: Moment show up week.

1792
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: Seventeen, yeah that's against The. Bills all, Right.

1793
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 3: Let's get to these phones and then we'll talk a

1794
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 3: little bit Of. Bengals sorry to keep you guys. Waiting

1795
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 3: patty is An. Aguan what's?

1796
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: Up?

1797
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 2: Patty what is?

1798
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 8: Up?

1799
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 5: Gentlemen how you doing? Today?

1800
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: Good So.

1801
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 5: I'm all right. Man wanted to go over a couple

1802
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 5: of things with you. Guys first things, first With Milton

1803
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 5: williams being, OUT i don't know if you guys remember

1804
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 5: a player by the name Of Jarvis. Screen but my

1805
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 5: first question, is can somebody Like Joshua farmer BECAUSE i

1806
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 5: don't Think tonga is more of like a nose. TACKLE

1807
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 5: i don't think he really fills the role That Milton

1808
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 5: williams is going to. Do can someone like him and

1809
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 5: and or dirt and kind of fill in and be

1810
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 5: That Jarvis screen type of. Player and my second question, Is,

1811
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 5: evan you just bought Up Brian, byer beware of a. J.

1812
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 5: Brown i'm kind of with you on. That and, Listen

1813
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 5: i'm regardless of whether the team is good or if they're,

1814
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 5: CRAP i always have an eye towards the. Future with

1815
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 5: the way things are going In minnesota this, year would

1816
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 5: you try and try Justin jefferson away from the Baby let's.

1817
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 5: Go that's that's the two. Questions i'll take it out, there.

1818
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: GUYS i, mean can we talk about that?

1819
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 2: THING i would be.

1820
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 3: Surprised, uh if The patriots have to trade two first

1821
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 3: round picks For Justin, JEFFERSON.

1822
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: I might do.

1823
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 3: THAT i don't think they, would.

1824
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: AM i he's going to ask out of?

1825
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: There, well, well no one cares what you would, do

1826
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 2: AUT i.

1827
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 3: Know What i'm just.

1828
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: Saying you think HE'S i legitmately wonder if he's going

1829
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: to ask out of. There just regarding separate of The,

1830
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:24,759
Speaker 1: patriots well.

1831
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 3: Up until THE i, mean the difference is is like With,

1832
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 3: donald like they were, winning like they were winning.

1833
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 2: Games, yeah this year they're not winning his.

1834
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: Money he also had a quarterback that could get him the. Football.

1835
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah it turns out That donald was actually pretty.

1836
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: Good yeah, yeah and this guy.

1837
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 3: Isn't.

1838
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah it's it's a fair.

1839
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 3: Point AND i think that if you look at, it you,

1840
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 3: Know Justin jefferson could look at it and, say like

1841
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 3: we Had donald, here, right.

1842
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 2: And this this is the decision that you guys made

1843
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 2: it in.

1844
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 3: Order and even be on that Like i'm in my.

1845
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,839
Speaker 1: PRIME i can't wait for you to find another quarterback

1846
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: and that's going to take how? Long and suddenly you

1847
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: know he's got he's got to capitalize now if he

1848
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: wants to try to break records and things like. That

1849
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 1: so there was one throw that people keep kept. Posting

1850
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,440
Speaker 1: it was like a third and medium out To jefferson

1851
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 1: and McCarthy just sails, it and people ARE i JUST

1852
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 1: i can't stop watching. This where did this come? From

1853
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: remember when he made that throw like five times at the? Combine,

1854
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: yeah it can't throw? Left that one to the, RIGHT

1855
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: i know it.

1856
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 3: Is the irony is that the one that everybody's showing

1857
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 3: is actually to the. Right but if you look at the,

1858
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 3: numbers the numbers to the left are the bigger. PROBLEM

1859
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 3: i think that and we can do a, little you, Know,

1860
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 3: mini it's not we're. Not his career is not over.

1861
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 3: OUT i don't want to do a full victory Left.

1862
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,600
Speaker 3: Wilson the thing ABOUT jj McCarthy that always bugged me

1863
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 3: was all of the mechanics footwork concerns that everybody kept,

1864
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 3: on you, know just drilling With Drake may that his

1865
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 3: footwork wasn't good in this THAT jj McCarthy had all

1866
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 3: the same issues and maybe even like, worse you, know,

1867
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 3: overstriding poor footwork in the, pocket inability.

1868
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 2: To drive the ball outside the.

1869
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 3: Numbers, uh you, know all of that's like that was

1870
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 3: all existed with. McCarthy and the one thing THAT i

1871
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,839
Speaker 3: always stood out to me with his film in college

1872
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: At michigan was that when he needed to get a

1873
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 3: little extra zip on the, ball he would, overstride so

1874
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 3: he would like really step into the, throw like exaggerated

1875
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 3: step into the, throw which told me that he didn't

1876
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 3: trust his. Arm it blows up his, mechanics and but

1877
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 3: that tells me that he doesn't trust his arm. Strength

1878
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 3: so that was all that was always, Concerning like if this,

1879
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 3: guy the only way this guy is going to be

1880
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 3: able to hit a deep out in THE nfl as

1881
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 3: if he puts his entire body behind.

1882
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:35,839
Speaker 2: IT i don't.

1883
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 3: THAT i don't want that with the third overall. PICK

1884
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 3: i want the guy with the third overall pick that

1885
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 3: can hit the out off, platform, Right like that's what

1886
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 3: and that's What Drake macon. Do SO i always just

1887
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 3: thought it was so weird that, all like we we

1888
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 3: talked for six months About drake his, footwork and then

1889
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 3: when it came TO jj, McCarthy it would just never

1890
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 3: really like we brought it, up but like it.

1891
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: Was just people rolling over the national.

1892
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 3: Champion it was never like a part of his like

1893
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 3: big picture or zeitgeist that he had all these mechanical

1894
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 3: issues and nobody talked about. It it was weird talking

1895
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 3: about him, now all, Right eldred is In North.

1896
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: Carolina what's Up?

1897
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 3: Eldred Hey, fellas what's?

1898
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 4: Up? Hey?

1899
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 5: Hey?

1900
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 8: Evan, yes, sir And, PATTY i love, You, Bro you're

1901
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 8: wrong on A. J. BROWN i think he just checked

1902
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 8: out BECAUSE i can say. It they ain't use. Them BUT

1903
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 8: i think he just checked, out you, know because he

1904
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:32,879
Speaker 8: got more challenge than. That And, evan if the greatest

1905
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 8: of all time is boy Seven denver and sometimes he

1906
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 8: would Get peppi teams In denver and they beat him

1907
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 8: even in the. PLAYOFFS i don't want to play.

1908
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 3: In denver's great, Point?

1909
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 2: Aldred Is Tom brady playing for The? Patriots?

1910
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: No somebody Tom brady's the? Best?

1911
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 2: Okay so Tom brady had a thing In. Denver Tom

1912
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 2: brady also had a thing In. Miami Drake may just

1913
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:55,480
Speaker 2: went down To miami.

1914
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 3: And won In.

1915
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: Miami, right he won In miami In.

1916
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 2: September that's like something The PATRIOTS i haven't done in ten.

1917
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: Years In december In miami's what they were struggle.

1918
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 8: With No, Bro No, bro that's not in the same.

1919
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 8: Atmosphere you can cut, That. Evan i'm gonna disagree with

1920
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 8: you on, that.

1921
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 3: Man, okay you can disagree with. Me i'm gonna have

1922
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 3: the same. Take Like i'm, Sorry i'm not oo the

1923
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 3: altitude LIKE i, okay like. Sorry LIKE i play In,

1924
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 3: Denver i'll Play denver on the. MOON i don't CARE

1925
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 3: i play him on the MIN i trust The patriots

1926
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 3: to beat Bo. Nicks i'm, sorry LIKE I i you.

1927
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 2: Know HOW i feel about Bo. Nicks i'm not gonna

1928
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 2: do b.

1929
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 3: Next.

1930
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 8: Bro you gotta worry about the defense. Too, okay it's light.

1931
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 3: Out it's. Great IF i only have to score twenty

1932
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 3: one point twenty four points to win the, Game i'm

1933
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,839
Speaker 3: Taking Drake may all, day.

1934
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 5: Not against that.

1935
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 8: Defense i'm, sorry what so you can't.

1936
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,679
Speaker 3: He can't score twenty points Against denver's? Defense THE mvp

1937
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 3: of the. League come, On, eldrid have more faith than THAT.

1938
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 8: Mvp, okay when you GET, MVP i, say, yeah but

1939
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 8: he's just in the. RUNNING i give him that. Too,

1940
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 8: yeah don't get them. WRONG i love to keep, it

1941
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 8: love to keep. It i'm looking at, defense And i'm

1942
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 8: looking at what they do weekend and week out against

1943
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 8: a good, team bad team or social. Team that defense

1944
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 8: come to play and that Advance joseph he's he's, good

1945
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 8: a wizard of disguising stuff or. Whatever but LIKE i,

1946
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 8: said that offense the fourth, quarter you, got you Got,

1947
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 8: sudden you Got, franklin then you Got, harvey and then

1948
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 8: go everybody else following up at fourth for they kicking everybody's.

1949
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 2: Butt so what happens in the first three, Quarters?

1950
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 3: Aldred but they there in the game.

1951
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 8: Too but see our our pass coverage is scaring the

1952
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 8: hell out of.

1953
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 5: Me that's what bothers.

1954
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 2: Me and you think Bon nicks is gonna do something about?

1955
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 2: That come, On, aldred you know?

1956
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 3: What come?

1957
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 8: On if ad bitch had a, cop more fields would

1958
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 8: have did. That and you know, it if they did

1959
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 8: mentioned the cop those passes or what you, got didn't

1960
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 8: drop the other one To jacks would have did it

1961
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 8: AGAINST i GUESS.

1962
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 3: I think we talked about it in the first, hour being,

1963
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 3: true that's being about.

1964
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 8: It but they, dropped couldn't And frankly ain't.

1965
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 3: Dropping, Okay, WELL i guess if The patriots Played, denver

1966
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 3: we should just not even go to the.

1967
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 8: Game you're, Game i'm going to the, game but you're

1968
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 8: missing the whole.

1969
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: Point.

1970
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 8: Bro that'd be the harder. Out give, Me, andy give.

1971
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 4: ME i.

1972
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 8: Agree i'll be more scared about About tim coming like

1973
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 8: it was The. Patriot But i'd rather play them In

1974
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 8: New england to go To denver and Play dipper In. Denper,

1975
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 8: okay fair couldn't do. IT i wouldn't do it.

1976
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 2: Either Fair, enough fell.

1977
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: Fair. Enough thanks for The it's like The brady stat

1978
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: was funny that he brought that. Up it's not A

1979
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: brady thing like the Out brady.

1980
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 2: Lost you know five In. Denver so now everybody ARE

1981
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 2: o six.

1982
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: Whenever the altitude thing is, real especially for a young.

1983
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 1: Team you're just kind of going by that a little too.

1984
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 2: Quickly, yeah because it's an EXCITING i don't, know it's

1985
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 2: a real.

1986
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 3: Thing the. Altitude it's a real it's a real. Thing

1987
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 3: won't let that be a real? Thing how about? That?

1988
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 1: Well DO i Trust i'm not saying they can't Beat

1989
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: denver In. DENVER i trust them to manage. It but

1990
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: it's a Variable i'd rather not. Do AND i, SAID

1991
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: i think That i'd rather go To denver than play

1992
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: The chiefs in any. Capacity i'm with you on. THAT

1993
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 1: i think the difference between playing The broncos In denver

1994
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: and playing The colts In indy is.

1995
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 3: MASSIVE i think that is a significant. Difference but don't

1996
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 3: put words in my. MOUTH i SAID i would rather

1997
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 3: play The. COLTS i said.

1998
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 2: THAT i just. Don't i'm not afraid Of. Denver they

1999
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 2: have a great.

2000
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 3: DEFENSE i don't think that The patriots are going to

2001
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 3: lose in the playoffs because because their offense gets totally

2002
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 3: shut down against a great. DEFENSE i don't think that's

2003
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 3: gonna be why they get they get punched. OUT i

2004
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 3: think they're gonna get punched out by a team that

2005
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 3: they can't. STOP i have a lot of confidence In

2006
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 3: Drake man And josh McDaniels to find ways to score.

2007
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 3: POINTS i, do So i'm not concerned about. That, Now,

2008
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 3: denver with the, Altitude i'm gonna come on your side

2009
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 3: of the street for a second with.

2010
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 2: This AND i do want to talk about The.

2011
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 3: BENGALS i if there's any sort of thing THAT i

2012
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 3: have a lot of confidence In mike Rabel, in it's

2013
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 3: that sort of. Thing so it's figuring, Out let's not

2014
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 3: get psyched out by the. Altitude let's adjust to. It

2015
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 3: let's figure it, out like maybe they go down There

2016
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 3: friday or something like that and get there a day

2017
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 3: early and practice On saturday or do their walk through On.

2018
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 3: Saturday and the altitude like those types of things when

2019
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 3: it comes to sort of LIKE i don't, know like

2020
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 3: the gamesmanship, right, altitude road environments like things like, that you,

2021
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 3: know the heat down In. Miami, LIKE i have so

2022
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 3: much confidence That Mike rabel is not going to get

2023
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 3: beat in the playoffs By denver because of the. Altitude

2024
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 3: they might get beat By denver because they play a

2025
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 3: game and they get beat straight. UP i don't think

2026
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 3: That Mike rabel is going to allow the altitude to

2027
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 3: be the.

2028
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: RIGHT i trust them to be as ready for it

2029
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:50,680
Speaker 1: as as. Possible but it's a.

2030
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 3: Factor, so speaking of putting words into my, mouth this

2031
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 3: is one of my biggest pet Peeves.

2032
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: Alex also real. Quick Stanley morgan moved on to the

2033
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: next round Of hall Of fame.

2034
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 3: Voting good for, him And i'm that.

2035
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 2: Sincerely his picture is up here, somewhere it's behind.

2036
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 1: Here down.

2037
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 3: Here, yeah he should be.

2038
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 4: In.

2039
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 3: Yeah this is probably my out of all the pet

2040
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 3: peeves THAT i, Have and you, Know i'm a pet

2041
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 3: peeve kind of guy LIKE i don't these things tend

2042
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 3: to bother. Me this is number one on my. List

2043
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 3: when you put words into my, mouth which YESTERDAY i

2044
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 3: Think fred did on the show ON pu which had

2045
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 3: made everybody think THAT i said this WHEN i did

2046
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 3: not say. This so yesterday when we were talking about,

2047
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 3: this this is From, kyle he, says my feathers were

2048
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 3: rouffled because you called The case game a one and done,

2049
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 3: loss and you said it was a guaranteed loss and

2050
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 3: then backpedaled roll the. TAPE i never called it a guaranteed,

2051
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 3: loss never said, it never did never ONCE i SAID

2052
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,560
Speaker 3: i didn't want anything to do With Patrick mahomes in the.

2053
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 3: Playoffs that's a. FACT i don't want anything to do

2054
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 3: With Patrick mahomes in the. Playoffs the word guaranteed loss

2055
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 3: never came out of my.

2056
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 2: Mouth that.

2057
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 3: NEVER i never said. THAT i actually would probably still

2058
01:32:58,240 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 3: pick The patriots in that game based off of what

2059
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 3: we've seen From Kansas. City but if you are telling

2060
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 3: me that you would not be terrified to Play Patrick,

2061
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:10,560
Speaker 3: mahomes the best quarterback in THE, nfl in the wildcard

2062
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 3: round after the season that you just, had like that

2063
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 3: would be a stinky way to go, Out and it

2064
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 3: would be stinky that you were the number two seed

2065
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,680
Speaker 3: in the conference and your draw was to play the

2066
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 3: best quarterback in THE, nfl who also happens to be

2067
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 3: probably the best winning playoff quarterback that's active right now

2068
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 3: in the.

2069
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 2: League like that would.

2070
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,759
Speaker 3: Stink like you had this great, season you won thirteen

2071
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 3: fourteen games in the regular, season and your prize is

2072
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 3: to Play Patrick mahomes in The Kansas City chiefs on

2073
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 3: wildcard round in a wildcard. WEEKEND i would hate. That

2074
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 3: never said it would be a guaranteed, loss though never

2075
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 3: once said.

2076
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 1: It roll the tape little up to, Hear bengals have

2077
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:50,560
Speaker 1: Designated Mike kisiki to return to.

2078
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 2: Practice, okay so let's talk a little bit Of bengals

2079
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 2: No chase in this.

2080
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 1: Game, yep so, my you, know spitting on people fair.

2081
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 3: ENOUGH i am big on seeing how they match up

2082
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 3: in this, game because even Without chase now would have

2083
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 3: been more fun With. Chase but even Without, CHASE i

2084
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:14,799
Speaker 3: do think that there are some matchup mismatch bodied, types

2085
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 3: let's call it that in this. Game so, obviously AND

2086
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 3: i don't mean to pick on, him But Marcus jones

2087
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 3: is kind of the guy we're talking about, here.

2088
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 2: Whether IT'S T higgins or It's.

2089
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 3: Yoshiva's either, Way Marcus jones at a size disadvantage against

2090
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 3: those two. Players so my number one thing on the

2091
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 3: list here for The patriots is just how do you

2092
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 3: go about making sure that The bengals can't formationally scheme

2093
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 3: up ways to Get Marcus jones isolated on one of

2094
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 3: those bigger receivers and then you just, play you, know

2095
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 3: you just rebound in basketball and you box out and

2096
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 3: you win jump balls down the. Field to, me that's

2097
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 3: how The. Patriots this game unravels for The. PATRIOTS i

2098
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:55,560
Speaker 3: think it's big for The patriots and their defense and

2099
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 3: their coaching staff on, defense they should be able to

2100
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 3: devise a.

2101
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 2: Plan to TAKE.

2102
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 3: T higgins out of this. GAME T higgins should not

2103
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 3: be a big time factor in this. Game how would

2104
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 3: you do? It would you Put gonzo ON T higgins

2105
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 3: and just call it a, day or would you DOUBLE

2106
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 3: T higgins With Carlton davis and safety, help Put gonzo

2107
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 3: On yoshiva's and do it that.

2108
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 1: Way because they're going to try to Use higgins so.

2109
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: Vertically Probably davis with. HELP i feel the same one

2110
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: Then gonzalez On Yoshiva's, although Like, NAH i was gonna,

2111
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:29,719
Speaker 1: say maybe we get into the, hole does a corner

2112
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:31,679
Speaker 1: cover tight end thing again this, Week that's just not gonna.

2113
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 1: Happen i'm gonna give that one.

2114
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 3: Up that's the way THAT i look at. IT i

2115
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 3: think this is a classic double the number one and

2116
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 3: put your number two also the number one on the number.

2117
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,719
Speaker 1: Ten they are probably gonna Run higgins in the, slot

2118
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: which is gonna make that a little more. Difficult, honestly

2119
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 1: WHAT i might do is Because gonzalez has more experience

2120
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 1: covering guys in the slot Than. DAVIS i don't know

2121
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 1: how Much davis has done that in his career because

2122
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 1: he hasn't played on defenses where he's traveled in that

2123
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 1: sense a lot IF i remember. CORRECT i mean there's

2124
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: a lot of plays. THERE i haven't seen all of,

2125
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 1: them but is it would almost be one where It's

2126
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 1: gonzalez On higgins in the slot and Then davis with

2127
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 1: help when he's. Outside you could do. That you could

2128
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 1: do that JUST i covering from the slot is it's

2129
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 1: a different, animal and AND i don't know how much

2130
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 1: Experience davis has of that in his.

2131
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 3: CAREER i just look at you, KNOW i don't Think

2132
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 3: yoshiva's Is Jamar chase by any, means BUT i don't

2133
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 3: think he's a slouch.

2134
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 1: Either if they beat, you thrown O Andre, Yoshivas, like

2135
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 1: well that's how they're gonna have to beat, you. Right

2136
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 1: but like if they beat, you if that guy is

2137
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty, yards you tip your.

2138
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 3: Cap i'm not saying they beat you that, way but

2139
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 3: that the. Game that's that's their formula is. There they

2140
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 3: want to throw the ball To, higgins but they're gonna be,

2141
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 3: right but they're by. Me WHAT i mean by their

2142
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 3: formula is that they're gonna try to find ways to

2143
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 3: get T higgins In yoshiva's On Marcus, jones like either

2144
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 3: one of those guys is gonna Try they're gonna try

2145
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 3: to find, ways whether it's lining them up in the

2146
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 3: slot or what have, you to get their bigger receivers

2147
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 3: On Marcus jones in a way From gonzalez And davis,

2148
01:36:58,080 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 3: like that's that's gonna.

2149
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 1: Be that's WHY i would do more aggressive traveling if

2150
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 1: on The patriots in this, game Agreed Carlton. Davis how

2151
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: many nflc he? Won, two, three, four, five six Seven

2152
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: in EIGHT nfl, Seasons Carlton davis has played three hundred

2153
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,799
Speaker 1: and eighty snaps in the slot and what is essentially

2154
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: two to two and a half, Seasons Christian zalez has

2155
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: played one eighty. Six So Christian zalaz has almost played

2156
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 1: half as many slots as As. Carlton the slot snaps

2157
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 1: Is Carlton davis in significantly fewer.

2158
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 2: Games just you gotta be careful with.

2159
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 3: That you gotta be careful with the matchups, Here Like

2160
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,600
Speaker 3: Marcus jones has other guys he can, Cover, yeah you,

2161
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 3: know because they're gonna probably have to Put Charlie jones

2162
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 3: on the field and three.

2163
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: Receivers SO i also wonder if they get Because kasiki's,

2164
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't think people realize how Good gasicki was

2165
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 1: for them last.

2166
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 2: Year he's he's a.

2167
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 1: Receiver he was a good player for, them and no

2168
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 1: fan's been.

2169
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 3: Good they got no.

2170
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 1: Fans so do they just run Without? Chase given how

2171
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 1: much if on The bengals, right this Is bengals catch twenty.

2172
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 1: Two if we're in drag, SHOES i think we're talking, about,

2173
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 1: well they can't cover tight. Ends kasiki might be. Back

2174
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 1: they're Down chase, anyway just run its ton of. Twelve,

2175
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 1: YEAH i think they probably will. Now and that other

2176
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 1: just Keep Marcus jones off the. Field the other thing

2177
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 1: THAT i think is interesting with more base and make

2178
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 1: Dani orlowski.

2179
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 3: Happy the other THING i think that's interesting about The

2180
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 3: bengals WHEN i was digging into to them this, Week

2181
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 3: Chase brown is a pretty good. Back yeah he, is

2182
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 3: and he's a very good pass catching. Back BUT i

2183
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 3: think he's a pretty good back. Overall they're very good

2184
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 3: running the. Football they just don't run the. Football and

2185
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 3: maybe that's because they're down in some of these, games

2186
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 3: maybe it's game script or. Whatever but right now they

2187
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:37,560
Speaker 3: ARE i want to, say second in the league IN

2188
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 3: epa RUSH epa in the ENTIRE. Nfl they are last

2189
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 3: in the league in rush, frequency how often they call.

2190
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 3: Runs they're they're throwing the football almost seventy percent of

2191
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 3: the time With burrow Or. Flacco it's the numbers are.

2192
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 1: Stagnant they rank second in the league and pass attempts

2193
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: thirty second in rush.

2194
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,799
Speaker 3: Attempts it's bizarre because their run game is not terrible

2195
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 3: And Chase brown's a good. Player now maybe he's more

2196
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 3: of like a scat back than a true downhill between

2197
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 3: the tackles. Back and maybe they need a compliment To

2198
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 3: Chase brown to be able to do. That but you

2199
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 3: know the, book and this is With, chase So i'll

2200
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 3: put that caveat on. There but the book that's been

2201
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 3: forming against This flacco iteration of The bengals is all,

2202
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 3: right we're just gonna play two high. Safeties we're gonna

2203
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 3: put one safety Over. Chase we're gonna put one safety Over.

2204
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 3: Higgins Joe flacco is not going, anywhere so we don't

2205
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 3: have to worry about him. Scrambling and we know you're

2206
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 3: not gonna run the, ball so we can play with lighter.

2207
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 3: Boxes we can play without the safety down because we

2208
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 3: know that you're not gonna run. It and so do

2209
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 3: they kind of in this game now you said it

2210
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 3: with the twelve. Personnel that's kind of WHERE i was going.

2211
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:43,560
Speaker 3: TO i do wonder if they try to run the

2212
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 3: ball a little bit more in this game Without. Chase

2213
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,759
Speaker 3: all of these things And i'm gonna take a little shot, here, Sorry,

2214
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 3: trags but all these little things point To Zach taylor

2215
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 3: being a good, coach And i'm not Sure Zach taylor

2216
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 3: Also i'm not sure about. That so Is Zach taylor

2217
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 3: gonna game plan The patriots the way that they Should Zach,

2218
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 3: taylor to me is one of the more interesting case

2219
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 3: studies of like talent versus. COACHING i Think Zach taylor

2220
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:09,719
Speaker 3: has been propped up by the talent on this. Roster

2221
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 3: for me for multiple years, now every single TIME i

2222
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 3: watch their, Offense i'm, like, you guys don't do nearly

2223
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 3: enough with the weapons that you. Have they come, out

2224
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 3: they're an eleven personnel. Team they're top five in the,

2225
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 3: league and how often they have three receivers on the. Field,

2226
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 3: now when you Have higgins And, CHASE i get that

2227
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 3: you're gonna be eleven, Heavy but they come out they

2228
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 3: play eleven personnel at a league high, rate they play

2229
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 3: shotgun at a league high, rate and they motion at

2230
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 3: a league low. Rate so they basically do none of

2231
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 3: the things that coordinators do nowadays to get guys open

2232
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 3: and like play games with. Defense isn't they do none of?

2233
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 3: It and because they have T higgins and they Have Jamar,

2234
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 3: chase they just score points because they have great players on.

2235
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 3: Offense so now that he's on his backup quarterback and

2236
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 3: he doesn't have his star. Receiver Does Zach taylor actually

2237
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 3: prove me?

2238
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 2: Wrong why would he?

2239
01:40:59,400 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 1: Change?

2240
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 3: NOW i don't.

2241
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 1: Know she have tracks call in and ask.

2242
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 3: Them i'm just asking because that's that's the big thing with.

2243
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:09,600
Speaker 3: Me every TIME i watch This bengals, Team i'm underwhelmed

2244
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 3: by their their scheme. Offensively you, KNOW i mentioned lack

2245
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 3: of run, rate lack of heavy personnel, groupings lack of under.

2246
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 3: Center those three things are like the things that teams

2247
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 3: are doing now in the. League they're throwing the ball

2248
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,560
Speaker 3: out of heavy. Personnel they're playing under, center like the

2249
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 3: best offenses in the league are doing all these.

2250
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: Things and The bengals do a nice under center. Rate

2251
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:35,640
Speaker 1: so Like, Rams, Seahawks, Patriots. Bills, yeah there's another. One,

2252
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 1: yep it's back that that love.

2253
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 3: It under, center twelve, personnel two tight, end under, center play,

2254
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:45,600
Speaker 3: action quick, game, run running the.

2255
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 2: Football that's the. League now it's. Back this is The bengals.

2256
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 2: Team none of it so.

2257
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,640
Speaker 1: Great it's all. Cyclical all, right offenses are going to

2258
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 1: go smaller ton of eleven, personnel these little shifty wide. Receivers,

2259
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 1: fine we're going to counter with two hundred and fifteen

2260
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 1: pounds linebackers and playing, three, four five defensive backs at a,

2261
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 1: time and then the, defense the offense, go, oh you're

2262
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 1: gonna build your defense like. That here comes twenty one

2263
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 1: to twelve personnel right up the.

2264
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 3: Gut, Yeah and eventually it was. Crazy the two.

2265
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 1: Hundred and forty pound linebacker is going to come, back

2266
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 1: and it's it's all. Cycle and one day we'll get

2267
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 1: back to the veer in the triple. Option eventually it'll correct.

2268
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 2: That, Well baltimore does plenty of that's, True.

2269
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 1: Baltimore baltimore kind of.

2270
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 3: Did, Yeah it's it's crazy. Though the, uh you, know

2271
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 3: The bengals just they are a spread gun. Team whether

2272
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:32,560
Speaker 3: It's Joe burrow Or Joe, flacco it doesn't. Matter LIKE

2273
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 3: i tried to look at this, WEEK i was, like all,

2274
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 3: right there must be, splits, right they must be under

2275
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 3: center more With Joe. Flacco, nope there Still, Nope they're

2276
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 3: still in the shotgun eighty percent of the, time even

2277
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 3: with old, man forty year Old Joe.

2278
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 2: Flacco it blows my. Mind, anyways on The bengals, defense.

2279
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 3: According TO, dva this is the worst defense that maybe

2280
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 3: in the history of THE.

2281
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 2: Nfl so to use real.

2282
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 1: Numbers there's never been a team that has finished last

2283
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 1: in THE nfl in rushing yards, allowed passing yards, allowed

2284
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,719
Speaker 1: and points. Allowed The bengals currently are last in points,

2285
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 1: allowed last and rushing yards. Allowed they're thirty first in

2286
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 1: passing yards, allowed so Maybe drake may help tip them

2287
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 1: over the top. There but like this legitimately could be

2288
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,599
Speaker 1: the worst defensive all. Time they are in my, numbers

2289
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 1: THE nerd, Numbers, yeah they are. Last IN dva they're,

2290
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 1: last AND epa their.

2291
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 3: Last AND i did throw a couple of your stats in,

2292
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 3: there last in yards, allowed last in points, Allowed like

2293
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 3: this is a horrible. DEFENSE i think you just you

2294
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 3: just far last and everything, right whatever we can pull

2295
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 3: out whatever.

2296
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 2: Number super rare that you find that teams, though like

2297
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 2: the counting.

2298
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 1: THAT i said before ever Sorry Super bowl era finishing

2299
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:45,680
Speaker 1: last and a lot of STUFF a lot of the.

2300
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 3: Times the counting stats and the efficiency sometimes you have

2301
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 3: a little bit of discrepancy there, where like you, know

2302
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 3: they're in a lot of, blowouts so they you, know

2303
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 3: giving up a lot of.

2304
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 2: Yards but it's not that, bad you.

2305
01:43:57,479 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 4: Know WHAT i?

2306
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 3: Mean, like, no This bengals team is bad in the

2307
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 3: advanced metrics and they're bad in The.

2308
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 1: No i'm looking at this. Here the only thing that

2309
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 1: they're not ranked like dead. Lasted they were eleventh in

2310
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 1: the league in. Interception they've got eight. Interceptions beyond, that

2311
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 1: passing yards allowed thirty, first passing touchdowns, allowed thirty, second

2312
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 1: rushing yards, allowed thirty second rushing touchdowns, allowed twenty six

2313
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:22,719
Speaker 1: rushing yards pert tempt, thirtieth passing yards per attempt thirty.

2314
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 1: First their turnover percentage is actually very, low it's twenty.

2315
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:29,559
Speaker 1: Thirds they have a lot of, interceptions but teams they're

2316
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 1: even last and plays ran against.

2317
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 2: Them, yeah so they're the one the biggest.

2318
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 3: Thing and, look you, could as we're laying out here for,

2319
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 3: you you could kind of do whatever you want against

2320
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 3: This bengals.

2321
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 2: Defense so here's the crazy.

2322
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 1: Thing, yeah everybody's Or i've been asked a, lot is

2323
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 1: this the Week drake may goes over three hundred? Yards,

2324
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 1: sure they've for as bad as it's. Been they've only

2325
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 1: allowed more than three hundred passing yards in a game.

2326
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 1: Once oh, okay So i've read that. Wrong, sorry they'

2327
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Allowed they've had some yard passers WHERE i think yards

2328
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 1: have come off with.

2329
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 2: Sacks, WELL i just wonder what happens like they're down By.

2330
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 1: So that's the, thing BECAUSE i think teams look at and, say,

2331
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:10,720
Speaker 1: well we can run against you the fourth. Quarter so

2332
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: why EVEN i don't even know if it's the fourth,

2333
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: quarter is? It we can run against? You and running

2334
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:18,680
Speaker 1: is inherently less risky than, passing so why would we?

2335
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 3: Pass SO i think the biggest thing with This bengals defense,

2336
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 3: though when you watch them on, tape they don't know

2337
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 3: where to line, up and they If i'm The patriots

2338
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 3: and look, again like you can probably just do. Whatever

2339
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,799
Speaker 3: you could probably just run your offense and score against

2340
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 3: This bengals. Defense i'm not trying to reinvent the wheel.

2341
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 3: Here but at the same, time WHEN i WHEN i

2342
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,639
Speaker 3: watched them on, TAPE i see a lot of point

2343
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 3: in palms, up like you, know busted coverages all over the.

2344
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 3: Place they have a first year defensive, Coordinator Al, golden

2345
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 3: first year with the with The bengals that came From Notre.

2346
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 3: DAME i was on that staff the year before that

2347
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 3: went to The National Championship, game and it just seems

2348
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 3: like it's a defense that doesn't know its, rules doesn't

2349
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 3: know uh what it wants to do against certain things

2350
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 3: like motion and like are you? Passing are we traveling with?

2351
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 3: Motion like when we get into you, know stacks and,

2352
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 3: bunches like how are we sorting those types of things?

2353
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 2: Out like are we?

2354
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 3: Playing you?

2355
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 4: Know?

2356
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:16,560
Speaker 2: Man are we you, know zoning it? Off like what

2357
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:17,680
Speaker 2: are we? Doing you?

2358
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 3: Know, so If i'm The patriots And I'm josh, McDaniels

2359
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 3: i am just throwing the kitchen sink of like the

2360
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 3: high level football stuff at them BECAUSE i don't think

2361
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 3: that they're gonna be able TO i THINK i would

2362
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 3: play a bunch of mind games with. Them, yeah, motions, stacks,

2363
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 3: bunches different, formations different personnel, groupings like just put their

2364
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 3: mind in an absolute blender BECAUSE i don't think they're

2365
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 3: gonna be able to sort through.

2366
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 1: It you know who the only quarterback is throw for

2367
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 1: over three hundred yards on The bengals this, year who

2368
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 1: we've talked about in quite a bit on the, Show Oh, Nix,

2369
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 1: yes through for three hundred and twenty six yards to

2370
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 1: get them In week.

2371
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:55,560
Speaker 3: Four, Yeah SO i think that this is one of

2372
01:46:55,600 --> 01:47:00,719
Speaker 3: those weeks where you can like outsmart, outwit, out sophistic

2373
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 3: count whatever The bengals defense like they can you can

2374
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 3: really put the their their minds and pretzels, like you

2375
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 3: can really mess with, them.

2376
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 1: Especially they can't.

2377
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:11,679
Speaker 2: Tackle, yeah they're one of the worst.

2378
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: Tackling so you could also just run the ball and

2379
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 1: dare them to bring you.

2380
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 2: Down, YEAH i wouldn't do. That throw the ball and

2381
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 2: let's let's warm up the.

2382
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 3: Buses let's you get this to be like twenty one,

2383
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 3: seven twenty four to seven at halftime in games over

2384
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:28,840
Speaker 3: and then you start running the ball and they can't.

2385
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 3: TACKLE i, yeah they're They not only do they not,

2386
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 3: tackle they don't swarm very well, either so they're like

2387
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 3: last in the league and misstackle, right they're also last

2388
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 3: in the league and yards allowed off of, misstackles so

2389
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 3: they're not only do they not the first guy doesn't

2390
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 3: get the guy, down nobody gets the guy down, right

2391
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 3: and so they are getting killed by.

2392
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 1: We're generally just in case anybody's. Winner we're generally a

2393
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,120
Speaker 1: pretty level headed. SHOW i don't know that we've ever

2394
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 1: talked about a team and we've even the, opponents like

2395
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 1: we've covered some Bad jets, offenses AND i don't know

2396
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:02,759
Speaker 1: that we've ever talked about a team like this because

2397
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 1: or a unit of a team like this because it's

2398
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 1: it's historically bags. THIS i, mean we've been doing this

2399
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 1: since twenty. Eighteen is this the worst unit that we've ever?

2400
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 1: Studied my memory is not good, enough but it's IT'S i,

2401
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 1: mean there's obviously some Bad, jets some Bad jets teams in.

2402
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:21,600
Speaker 2: There it just as, uh you know what it is

2403
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 2: is it's, like, well.

2404
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 3: They're not very coordinated very, Well i'll say it that,

2405
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 3: way you, know and so like it's not so much

2406
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 3: that they have talent. Issues but but, normally when you

2407
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 3: like go into these types of, GAMES i can at least, say,

2408
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 3: oh that guy's a good.

2409
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 2: Player this guy's a good. PLAYER i could probably do

2410
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 2: that with some of the.

2411
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:44,640
Speaker 3: Players Now Trey henderson is not going to, play but

2412
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 3: they don't have a ton of talent THAT i can

2413
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 3: point To Dj. Turner their corner is having a nice,

2414
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 3: year like he's a solid number one, corner but outside of,

2415
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 3: him they don't have a lot of. TALENT i Mean.

2416
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:59,639
Speaker 3: Stewart so, normally even IF i think that the, COACHING

2417
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 3: i can, say, okay but like you, know they're playing The,

2418
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 3: jets and, well now he's not there.

2419
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 2: Anymore but Like Sauce gardner is a good. Player Quinn

2420
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 2: williams is a good.

2421
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 3: PLAYER i can't even do that with This bengals, Defense

2422
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 3: like they DON'T i don't even know who half these.

2423
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 1: Got Shamar stewart has not been. Good Miles murphy's, good he's.

2424
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 1: Injured those are two of the last first round. Picks

2425
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 1: i'm just, saying big, Picture, yeah LIKE i Thought Barrett

2426
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 1: carter would be an okay, Player Jordan, Battle Gino stone

2427
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 1: like aren't.

2428
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 2: Terrible But i'll say this, though and then we got to, go,

2429
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 2: Oh Marco.

2430
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 3: WILSON i wouldn't be surprised if this is another kind

2431
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 3: of like ho home take care of business game where

2432
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 3: they don't necessarily blow. DOORS i think that that we're

2433
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 3: at that point in the season with the lay by

2434
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 3: where this team is kind of, guys they're kind of

2435
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 3: tired and they're a little bit banged, Up so don't freak.

2436
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:48,680
Speaker 3: Out if this game is like kind of like The

2437
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 3: jets game, was where like The patriots are clearly the better,

2438
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:54,719
Speaker 3: team but they don't really run away from The. BENGALS

2439
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:58,600
Speaker 3: i just wouldn't be totally shot. Take let's, say you,

2440
01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 3: KNOW i would probably pick The patriots to win this, game.

2441
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 2: You, know thirty to.

2442
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 3: SEVENTEEN i was gonna say thirty twenty. Four yeah like some,

2443
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 3: yeah you know something that's a comfortable. Win but it's

2444
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 3: not a Complete they're not going to hang fifty on them.

2445
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 3: Either all, right let's take this last call because marstera,

2446
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 3: regular and then we got to clear the way here FOR.

2447
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 2: Pu what's?

2448
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 3: Up?

2449
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 9: Mark, hey, guys thanks for taking my. CALL i appreciate

2450
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 9: it those always. SO i just had two quick. Things Kaishan,

2451
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,560
Speaker 9: BOODY i am so. Excited i'm hoping that he is

2452
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 9: back this. Week no offense To Kyle. WILLIAMS i Love Kyle.

2453
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 9: WILLIAMS i think that he'll be better next. Year But

2454
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 9: Kayshan body is a guy THAT i really think should get,

2455
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 9: extended AND i wanted to ask you when is he

2456
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 9: eligible this year to get a contract. Extension and then

2457
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 9: the last thing is put me on. Record Kansas City

2458
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 9: chiefs have the last seven. GAMES i think four games

2459
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 9: are tough to, win AND i don't think they're going

2460
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 9: to make the. Playoffs so put me on record for. That,

2461
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 9: guys love you, boys love.

2462
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:57,680
Speaker 3: It, mark thanks so really. Quickly, Yes Kaishan boody And

2463
01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:01,679
Speaker 3: Pop douglas are extension. Eligible all those guys are starting

2464
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 3: the seas, Well, yeah are With Christian, gonzales you, know

2465
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 3: same draft, Class so all three of those guys are

2466
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 3: extension eligible starting this. Offseason it's you, know as much

2467
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 3: as we talk, about you, know The bengals and No,

2468
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 3: chase you, know No, hendrickson No. Burrow Getting Remondra stevenson

2469
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 3: in kaishan booty back would be would be nice for The,

2470
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 3: patriots that would. Be it's not a small thing. Either all,

2471
01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 3: right we got to. Go Patriots unfiltered will start here

2472
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:32,680
Speaker 3: in about nine minutes and we'll be back next Week thanksgiving.

2473
01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 3: WEEK i can't believe It's thanksgiving, already but next week

2474
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 3: Is thanksgiving. Crazy so we'll be back next week to

2475
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 3: talk about This bengals, game preview The giants On Monday Night.

2476
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 2: Football we'll see you guys.

2477
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 3: Then thanks for.

2478
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 2: Watching hey this Is. Alex thanks for tuning into the.

2479
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:50,559
Speaker 2: Show if you really want to help, us make sure.

2480
01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 4: You like us On Apple, Podcasts, spotify or wherever you

2481
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2482
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:56,200
Speaker 2: Podcasts, also make sure you follow us on The New

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Speaker 2: England patriots YouTube channel to see this show and everything

2484
01:51:59,160 --> 01:51:59,600
Speaker 2: else we do.

2485
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 3: Here patrious that's wh