WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Tabitha Brown On Purpose, Messages From God, Retiring Her Husband, New Book + More 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:02.520 Wake that ass up in the morning. 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:07.720 Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in Steve j Envy, Charlamagne the guy. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:09.120 We are the breakfast Club. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.520 We got a special guest in the building time time 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:13.480 who celebrating her birthday next week. 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:14.840 I am this weekend. 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:17.960 This weekend, ladies and gentlemen, Tabitha Brown, Welcome. 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:18.759 How are you? 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:21.000 I'm amazing. If I was in the bed, i'd be 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:21.480 two people. 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:23.439 I love that hoodie. 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:23.720 Thanks. 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:25.520 Freedom over colde switching? What's that mean? 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.400 Well, you know, I spent a very long time code 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:32.239 switching and conforming and that's not freedom. So I no 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:34.840 longer live that way. And so I always tell people, honey, 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.760 we got to freedom over colde switching. We'd enough just 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.640 as we are, even if we're from the country, even 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.600 if we're from the South. It's just a thing. So 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:44.320 I promote that all the time. 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:45.720 There you go, I feel like I know you because 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:47.320 I told you when I saw you over the summer. 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:49.800 I'm like when my kids watched taping the Brown all 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.160 the time on YouTube. And then you know, my wife 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.800 has the cookbooks, the vegan cookbooks around the house, like 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:56.200 she was giving them out of his gifts to people 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:57.280 like you. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.760 And we got to congratulate her on at me as well, 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.800 just want to acting congratulations. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.399 It still feels surreal, you know, but I feel grateful 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.280 to have one for just like being myself, right, but 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:15.839 something so powerful that it's for children. But it still 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.160 feels like it didn't happen. It feels like a dream almost. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.320 But the crazy thing is there's another side of that 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.800 that it feels completely normal. It's like a it's a 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:25.640 it's a weird. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:26.520 Feeling, it's yours. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:28.480 Yeah, it feels like, oh, this is what God intended 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.440 for my life. Absolutely, But the other side of it 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:31.640 is like, did that really happen? 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.360 So? But yeah, how did the Internet change your life? 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:39.160 Shoot, honey in every way? You know, I was, I 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.160 still am an actress, but for a long time, you know, 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:43.920 I was pursuing acting and nobody really knew me from 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:48.920 you know, acting, And I started doing content doing you know, videos, 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.040 not because I wanted to, but I had a dream 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.480 and God spoke to me and told me started doing videos. 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.680 And I was like, no, I don't want to do that, 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.760 you know, But I was also trying to live a 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:03.000 life of obedience. And I started and nobody was watching 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:04.640 and I was like, well, God, you told me to 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.960 do this, and ain't nobody. Ain't nobody showing up on 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.160 these videos to watch? Why do you have me doing this? 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.799 And I started in August of twenty seventeen doing videos 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.600 and by December thirtieth, one of my videos went viral. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:18.600 Which one it was? 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:20.760 It was a TTLA. I was eating a sandwich in 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.120 my car because I was driving Uber and because I 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.320 was on disability for over you because I was so sick. 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.640 And when I started feeling better after going vegan, I 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.800 started driving Uber and I was like, you know what, 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:32.480 I had had a job before. I didn't want to 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.440 get stuck back in the nine to five. So I 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:35.880 told my husband, I was like, you know what, I'm 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:37.720 gonna go drive Uber. We live in LA. I'm probably 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:39.600 get discovered in my car. In my mind, I'm thinking 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.440 I'm gonna, you know, pick up a producer or director 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:45.160 or something. And I stopped by Whole Foods because I 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:46.600 dropped somebody off and I was like, I'm go ahead 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:48.760 and get me a little breakfast and because I'm still 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:50.920 a new vegan at that time, and I got a 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.320 sandwich and did a review on it because I was 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.720 my videos. When I first started, I was just telling 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.799 people I'm going vegan. When I find new vegan options, 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.880 I'm just gonna share it. And by the time I 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.040 got home in the video had like fifty some thousand views, 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:04.480 and I was like, wait a minute, who watching. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:05.880 This video was before. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.760 Listen? I love that's my nephew. But the next morning 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:13.520 had like over one hundred thousand views, and I was like. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:15.000 I told my husband, I said, I think I'm going 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.680 viral was and I was like and he was like, 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:19.960 what that means. I was like, I don't know. And 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:21.799 four days later, Whole Foods reached out. I was like, 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:23.440 we saw your video because I got the you know, 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.880 sandwich from there, and they wanted to partner with me. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.280 I became their brand ambassador and wow, you want to 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.560 do so many campaigns and it ain't It's been on 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:31.240 ever since then. 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:32.840 Now, why have you switched to vegan for people? I 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:33.200 don't know? 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:37.520 So I got sick. So January of twenty sixteen, I 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.920 woke up one morning and I had this headache in 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:41.920 the back of my head. And I had a car 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.080 accident in high school, so I'm used to like waking 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:45.839 up sometime in the back of my neck is tied 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:47.880 and sometime it goes into my head. So I thought 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:51.920 it was one of those episodes. But this headache rested 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:53.320 in the back of my head for a year and 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.480 seven months wow, and it started to, you know, affect 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.760 my body, and so I started to fall when I 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:04.240 will walk as a woman. Everything was all out of whack. 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:06.960 I just did not feel well. So every time I 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.240 went to the doctor, they were doing so many tests. 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.240 They was in myris trying to figure out what is wrong. 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:13.960 So they told me. They was like, we know it's 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.480 something autoimmune that's attacking your body. We just can't figure 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.640 it out. I lost my vision for a day. It 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.640 was a really bad time for me, and I took 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.039 every drug the doctor offered me. I was like a 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.719 guinea pig because you are desperate to feel better, and 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.280 if anything, it probably made me worse. Nothing was working, 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.320 and so my daughter came home from school one day 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.719 and she was like, Mommy, we saw this documentary at 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:36.480 school today. I think you should watch it. And I 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.479 don't know if you know teenagers, honey, but it ain't 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:39.720 every day they come home and tell you to watch 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.760 the documentary. And so it was what they helped on Netflix, 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:44.440 and so I was like, you know what, let's watch 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.320 it together as a family. So I watched it. When 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:51.159 they started talking about not all diseases or hereditary sometime 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:52.920 you can eat the same thing in your family that 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.640 will cause the same disease in your bloodline. And so 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.320 that was kind of like a light bulb moment for me. 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.480 My mama died at fifty one of a rare disease. 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.120 My daddy is now seventy two, but he's the oldest 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:04.280 man that ever lived in my family. 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:04.599 Wow. 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.280 People get sick at young ages in my family, and 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.400 they died at young ages in my family. And the 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:10.839 only thing I could think of that we had in 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.240 common was how we ate. Now, I wasn't a bad 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.839 eater because I was in LA but I wasn't eating 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.560 to feel well. I was eating to look a certain way, 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.480 which is is also a sickness and. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.240 So a certain way. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.920 So I'm not exactly. I wasn't eating to like, oh, 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:28.320 I'm me put this in my body so I can 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.120 be well. I was like, oh, let me put this 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.599 in my body so I don't gain weight, you understand. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.919 So so but I said it wasn't you know, a 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.760 terrible you know, I haven't eaten red metal pork since 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.560 I was fifteen, and I was like, okay, and I'm 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:42.920 allergic to the every like most people. But I also 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.440 was like, it's the only thing I haven't tried. So 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:46.960 I told my husband, let's do like a thirty day 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.719 began challenge. So for thirty days and so on, like 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.760 day ten, the headache I had every day for a 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.720 year and seven months disappeared. Wow, and I was like, wait, min, 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.200 I'm onto something. And after that, every day started geting 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:01.920 energy again because I had chronic the tea and I 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:05.599 had chronic panic attacks because when you sick and you 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:07.440 know something is wrong but the doctor said, well we 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:11.240 can't figure it out, it makes you have anxiety and depression. 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.599 And so I started getting energy again because I would 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.960 sleep all day all night, like I would just be 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.440 exhausted all the time, and so energy start coming back. 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.599 My head, you know, was feeling better. I was starting 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.200 to feel like myself again. And so that day when 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:27.719 day thirty came, I told my husband, I was like, 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:29.320 this is gonna be my life. You know, I'm gonna 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.080 go vegan. He was like, well, tomorrow we need a 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:35.320 piece of chicken tab like. 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:35.720 And so. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.000 But I always tell people that part because sometimes the 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.440 journey that may change your life or save your life, 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:42.760 you gotta be willing to go on and a loan. 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.000 And so I was like, all right, and so I 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:46.160 ain't never looked back. 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.720 That's why I got so many questions. Number one, you 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.960 said something earlier about God spoke to you. What does 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:53.919 God sound. 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.680 Like for me? Yeah, so I always tell people I 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:00.440 get to asked that a lot. Now I am gives 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.960 it in a different way than most people. So for me, 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:08.600 I can hear like your voice, I can hear sometimes 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.360 it sounds like a flutter, like a hummingbird would be 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.360 close to my ears. So it's like a wind and 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.600 it's a flutter, but you can hear sound in it. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:22.080 I can see it, I can dream it. I'm a seer, 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.040 but in my dreams, like my dreams can speak to 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.160 me and things come to pass. So that's what it 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:31.040 sounds like for me. For most people who are always 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:32.920 trying to figure out is this God speaking to me? 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.680 Is this just my thoughts? I will tell you that 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.680 when you think of something, you'll think of it and 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.920 you may lose the thought later right may not even 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.160 come back to you. But when God is speaking to you, 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.240 when he's putting something inside of you, it won't let 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:49.200 you rest. It'll keep coming back. And so that's how 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.760 you can kind of decipher. And then sometimes he will 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.360 use a voice that's familiar to you, like for me, 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.160 when my mama was sick, she lost her voice because 0:07:58.160 --> 0:07:59.960 she had ls or at the end she could either 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.920 whisper or we'd have to read her lips. So I 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:04.920 would be at her house on the other side of 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:06.440 the house, in her office, and she would be in 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.520 her bedroom in the hospital bed, and just as clear 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.679 as I can hear, you know, us having this conversation, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.240 I would hear her call me like tab and I'll 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:15.280 go in there and be like, momy, you called me. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.400 And she looked at me like, nah, I call you, you know, 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.680 like I can't. She can't. But that's how God will 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.680 get your attention sometimes, not to scare you. Now, I've 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.080 only heard this one time, and this is when I 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.520 was living in Greensboro, North Carolina, when I had kind 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.920 of given up on my dreams and thought I couldn't 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.800 have them anymore. I woke up one morning it felt 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.200 like an earthquake had happened in Greensboro. Like my bed 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.800 shook me awake, and I heard a voice that sounded 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.000 like thunder, and the boy said, this is not the 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.600 life I plan for you. And I got on knees 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:44.840 of us started praying. I was like, now, God, if 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:45.959 this is you speaking to me, I need you to 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:47.040 show me a sign. 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:47.840 Just shook the house. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:52.040 But listen, I woke up like this. I had never 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.080 heard that before and it was scary, and I was like, 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.920 either you got to show me today that this is you. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.600 Ioran to time my husband take me to the hospital 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.000 because I thought I was losing it. And when you gifted, 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.600 sometime they do feel like you're crazy and other people 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.480 think that it's well. But now of course I know like, 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:12.240 oh no, this is just my gift and I don't 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.360 hide it anymore. I don't straight away from it. I 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:15.800 wrote it buy it in my first book because I 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.480 wanted people to know, like, this is me. If you 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.720 want to rock with tail, honey, this is who I 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.800 really am. I don't hide that part of me anymore. 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.559 So what was the other sign that God shows you? 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.880 Oh? So later that day, because I had kind of 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.600 given up on my acting dreams because I had a baby, 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.679 and you know, me and my husband's working jobs. We 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.720 was living in North Carolina, So you have a baby 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.280 early in a small town, you pretty much are like, oh, 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.199 you go get this regular job and y'all going to 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.200 get a house and cars and that's gonna be it. 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:46.120 And so in Greensboro, North Carolina, where no acting or 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.680 TV shows and nothing was happening. Later today, we was 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.640 on our way tomorrow and on the radio, Bustin Brown 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.880 was the DJ, and he came on and was like, Hey, 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.720 I just got a new TV show on the WB 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.560 network and I'm looking for a female co host. I'm 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:03.280 holding out And I was like, that's my sign that 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:04.839 I gotta go to this audition. And I want to 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:06.320 say that audition I booked. The job was the first 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:07.520 audition I ever had for a time. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:08.120 God. 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.600 Yeah, and I've been pursuing it ever since. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:11.200 Wow. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.680 When you say you have gifts, so are you clairvoyant? 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:15.400 Are you like a medium? No? 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:19.440 I call it I'm a seeer. Right, It's just you know, 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.520 that's a gift that God gave me. I was born 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.200 with it in that way. Yeah, my whole life, I 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.000 feel like we all have discernment, we just don't all 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:32.520 lean into it, right. But for me, I, as a 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.840 little girl would dream about people I've never met before 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.079 and wake up and tell my mom and dad. They're like, oh, 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.480 I such and such, and they'd be like, that person 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.880 been dead twenty years. Like you would never know that person, right. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.640 I can remember being in my grandfather's funeral, but they're like, 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.360 you were ten months old. It's no way for you 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:51.280 to remember that. It's just I don't know, and I 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.840 can't control it. That's the thing. It just happens. Like 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.640 I can be talking to you and something can just appear. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.480 I can see and it may be for you, or 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.440 it may be to protect me. It just depends. But 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:04.920 I have no control over that. 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.120 Absolutely my Now, I'll tell you later. 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:12.520 I was going to ask you, so you know North Carolina? 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:13.199 Uh huh? 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.120 So now you pick up your family and you move 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.080 to La Yes, I was that conversation with your husband 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.880 and your child and let's. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:21.880 Just go to l A, a place we don't know. You 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.240 gotta find a new job and. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:24.199 It's good Carolina. 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:27.640 Yeah, yeah, it's crazy because at first my husband's like, 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:32.079 so in ninety eight, I moved to California in pursuit 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.880 of acting. But I wasn't in LA and I was 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.440 like in Orange County, and I didn't tell my husband. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.160 He was my boyfriend at the time, Like how bad 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:41.520 it was. I ain't telling nobody. I was renting the room 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.640 from somebody who was like taking all my money. But 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.920 you know, I'm like young, like nineteen, I really want 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.120 to get this dream out of me and I want 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.679 to do something. And so our plan was for him 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.280 to move out a couple months later, you know, and 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.240 then we would get our own place. But when he 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.120 moved out and saw how I was living, he was like, no, 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.680 this is crazy. He's like, you're working two jobs and survive. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.800 You ain't nowhere near LA. You're not pursuing acting. He 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:04.680 was like, we need to move back to North Carolina 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.720 so that you can. We can say, but money, because 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.280 it's cheaper. He was like, we can stay for one year, 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.319 then move back to LA so you can really pursue 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.440 your dreams. That one year turned into five years and 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.360 a forgotten dream right until I had that experience that morning. 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.360 So when I told my husband after I worked that 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:21.640 job for like a year, I was like, now, it's 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:23.600 time for us to move back to LA. He was like, nah, 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.360 I'm working there. He was like, we got this baby, 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.360 you know, he had I also had a step daughter 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.600 who was older. And he was like, we got we 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.880 got you know, responsibilities now, Like we can't just get 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:35.679 up and go to LA. And he had just built 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.440 like a music studio in the house. So he was like, no, 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:42.840 we were good. We had good jobs for Greensborough. No, 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:47.040 but he just loved like making music. And so I 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.240 was like, well, listen, I can I can go out there, 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.280 but like I can feel it calling me and I 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:53.560 can come back and forth. He was like, oh, no, 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:54.280 we're not going to do that. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:58.200 I can imagine those arguments you're go with. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:12:59.720 I don't know what money I thought I had to 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.880 I can be by coastal okay and go back and forth. 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.679 I don't know what I was thinking, but we saved 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.880 up like eight thousand dollars. Took us some months and 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.000 we moved to LA And we first got there, we 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.760 was living in Barwen Hills and my husband, I mean, 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.679 we're both from the same hometown. You know, we're from Eden. 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:18.040 It's a bear small town in North Carolina. And our apartment. 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.640 I had flew out there to find our apartment because 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.120 back then my husband used to be afraid to fly, 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:23.880 you know, people from the country. They'd be like, I 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.360 ain't getting on no plane, you know. So I had went 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:27.800 back and forth to find us a place and I 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.680 had found a cute this this spot was cute to me, right. 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:33.320 But it did have the bars on the window, because 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.000 most of them do in La right. So, but we 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.240 weren't used to that. But I didn't tell him because 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.320 in my mind I thought it was nice and it was. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:42.440 It did turn out to be nice. 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.880 Was he able to bring his gun with him? He did? 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:47.760 Actually, okay, you know what he did. 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.400 He did Carolina Garden. 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.680 No, he did. But when we got that he was hot. 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.760 He was like you what we was like right off Crenshaw. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.280 She was yeah. He was like, what the hey we 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.920 got a door to I was like, babe, I didn't 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.199 scoped it out. This is a good area, I promise you. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.760 And because there was you know, that was when the 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.400 reality show balw When Hills was out. Remember that, I said, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.960 we live in Balwen Hills. It's just that we don't 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.160 live in View Park. But where we parked, we could 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.440 see the view like I was trying to sell it right, 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:20.680 But he got used to it over time. But you know, 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.640 in the beginning, we was a little we was at 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.880 odds for a while, but you know, we saved there 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:26.080 for five years and we loved it. 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:26.400 Wow. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.760 So that's I see now I hear the story. I 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.520 get a glimpse of why I retire and your husband 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:31.120 was important to you. 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.280 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean we came out there and 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.920 after what the first like year or so, that's when 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.440 he was like, I think I'm I'm gonna join LAPD. 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:45.160 And I was like, because where we from, you're not 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.360 no police officer, Like we don't even trust police officers 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.280 right even in La too. But he was like, I 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.440 met some like cool black officers that looked like me. 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.720 They won't judge me. It was like cool, like they 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.800 was like real people. And he felt like he could 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:02.880 do wouldn't make a difference. But then also he thought, Okay, 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.400 this is a good career. I'll have a good salary 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.960 and benefits and you can pursue your dream. And that's 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.080 that's what he did. 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:09.560 Wow. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:10.000 Yeah. 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.800 Well, one of the moments that we all saw that 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.600 went viral was when you retired your husband, and you know, 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.480 Wendy Williams had made some statements about you and the 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:19.520 way you responded. 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.120 You responded with such grace and such love. It was 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.880 almost like, I hope you heal absolutely moment. Do you 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:27.640 respond like that always in. 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:31.160 This season in my life? Yes? Yeah. I mean the 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.960 old tab probably would have had that get back spirit, right, 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.760 But she didn't even know me, and I don't know 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.680 her other than knowing her from you know her her career. 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.360 But you can also tell when somebody is hurt. And 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.320 we've all been through things that caused us to project 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.720 and feel a certain way. But I'm not going to 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:55.480 exhaust energy and give anybody control over me to anger me. 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:56.240 Right. 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.880 So, but also I just love people despite what anybody 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.400 have to say about me. There's so many people now 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.480 that that hate me, that don't know me, but I 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.760 love them. It also makes me want to love harder 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:11.760 in the world because people are hurting. Right. You know, 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.440 a lot of people think that I'm fake because I'm 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.960 nice and I'm like, I'm a kind, I'm compassionate. I 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.520 held my mama's hand while she died, like I've seen 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:25.560 death so many times, Like I have also almost lost 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:29.360 my life. Why would I not be happy and joyful? 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.680 I'm still here, right, So it hurts my heart for 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.680 other people when I know that they're just hurting and 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.640 they don't mean any harm in a way that they 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.680 it's really they're trying to make themselves feel better projecting, right, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:48.080 they're projecting, and so the harm is really they're doing 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.480 it to themselves because they're not instead of projecting, you 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.520 should be trying to heal yourself and get what you 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.040 need to feel better. But I don't know. 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:58.560 Because you get a lot of flak for it, because 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.120 you know what it took me during that time. As 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:05.560 people don't understand love. Yeah, right, you love your husband. 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.639 You were financially fine, and you can make sure that 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.439 he's okay, you know, And it doesn't matter if he's 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:12.919 a man, he's a woman or what he is. You 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:14.880 love me and you had the opportunity to retire man 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:16.639 and men do it for women all the time. So 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.359 I didn't see it. So did you get a lot 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:19.000 of flat for it? 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.760 Oh? Yeah, I mean a lot of people had something 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.760 to say about it, but that's their opinion. I don't 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:29.480 I don't care. That ain't my business. But I also 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:34.679 realized that a lot of people don't understand partnership. Right, 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:38.359 I've been my husband twenty six years, amazing, more than 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.520 half my life. Right, most people don't even understand that. 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:42.359 How did he feel? 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:43.560 Felt? 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:48.159 He felt amazing. But after what people don't know is 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:50.439 I had been trying to retire my husband for like 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.040 two years. We had enough money, and he was like, 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.080 that money came too quit, bab, I don't want to 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:55.520 do that to. 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.160 You now, just in case. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.560 Yeah, he was like, nah, I know one plus one 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.120 equal two. We don't know. Because he also has watched 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.879 me in Hollywood over twenty years not get jobs for 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.720 six months or two years or whatever. He was like, 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.240 we can't. We can't count on this new money, right. 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.320 And so I was like, Babe, I promise you I 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.800 got the amount of money that we have always said 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:19.320 that we have this amount of money in the bank, 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.399 tax has been paid. We don't owe nobody that you 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.439 will retire. And he was like, all right, let me 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.800 think about it. He took a leave first. He just 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.280 was like I don't want that on your back, you know, 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.440 even though he has a nonprofit, but it wasn't gonna 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.040 make the you know, coming straight down, he won't gonna 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.240 make the kind of money he was making before. And 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.120 I was like, but now you can build it. Now, 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.080 you can do all the things you wanted to do. Right. 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:45.920 So it took him a while, but afterwards. Now listen, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:47.840 right now, what time is that they might be on 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.800 the golf course? Okay, listen, he worked with his kids 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:52.359 three four days a week, but he'd be on that 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.840 golf course. He is, he is feeling it now. He's 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:56.320 always heard about it, absolutely well. 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.440 The trustee has for you, you know, because as a man, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:18:59.960 you know, they always tell us our job as the 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:01.960 protect Yeah, and to provide. 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:03.960 Yeah, I think that we forget that. We're a unit. 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:05.600 You've been together twenty six years. Me and my wife 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:06.560 been together twenty six years. 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.480 Ohner, South Carolina from Yeah kids, you know. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.560 So it's like I understand that. And it don't matter 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:13.720 who make. 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:15.760 It, if one of us make it, we in it together. 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:16.399 We in it together. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:17.680 That's exactly right. 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:17.920 Yeah. 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.360 I mean he carried me. I used to have odd 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.240 and end jobs. You know, I would go work in maces. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.040 I'll go working you know, calls and I would go 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.040 and I did CNA work. I would do all kinds 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.160 of jobs to make sure because we are partners. So 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.480 I would pay like utilities and stuff. I'm like, oh, 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:34.080 let me take the kids school shop and let me 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:38.159 do this because you're gonna handle the big bills. That's partnership, right, 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.040 And so he did that for fifteen years. 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.480 Man, when I was getting fired from radio and it 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.200 was too proud to go collect unemployment checks, my wife 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:46.960 was the one working, yeah, paying the bills. 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:47.879 We was getting a victed. 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:49.320 She was the one going in front of the judge 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:50.879 and tell them why we shouldn't get a victed. 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:52.600 So I overstand absolutely. 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.080 I mean, that's what partners do. But so people who had, 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.440 you know, problems with it, they ain't never had real partnership. 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.000 That's right. So let's talk about this book. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.080 I did a new thing, your new book, Yes, all 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.000 thirty days, the Living Free. 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:05.240 What is living free? 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.920 To Tabitha Brown, Well, you know freedom over coad switch 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.520 and right, we talked about that. But living free is 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.720 like taking the opportunity to do something even if it 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:18.159 scares you, right, just doing something new. Right. I started 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.639 doing this challenge in twenty fourteen. I was really just 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.520 in search of, like getting to know myself better because 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:28.240 I still was not free, and I would do something new, 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:30.840 whether it be with my kids or by myself, and 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.239 just to see how it would open my mind and 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:34.880 how it would make me feel. And so I did 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.199 that over the years, and I would always, you know, 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.560 learn something new about myself. Like I discovered my love 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.760 for hiking, and I was like, oh shoot, I never 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:44.920 would have thought that I would love hiking. And then 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.680 now it's something I have continued to do over the years. 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:50.440 And so I was like, if I do this again, 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:52.480 I think I want to write a book. So last 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.280 year I did it for thirty days and I journaled 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.720 it and made it into a book. And my hope 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.800 was that other people want to, you know, live free 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:04.800 and try new things and the other thing about freedom. 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.440 In order to like really go out and do something new, 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:10.720 that's the only way you're gonna know if you love 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.440 something or you don't like it, right, you have to 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.199 be willing to be like, I don't care, I just 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:17.119 want to find out. Let me just see, right. So 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.280 it also could be something as simple as I'm gonna 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:21.439 word my hair different right now, I'm doing a you know, 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:23.879 my hair name is Donna. So I'm doing while I'm 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.359 on tour. I'm making a new hair style every day. 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:27.359 He says. His name is Donna. 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:31.000 Yeah, her name Donna like Donna. Oh, it's just Donna. Well, 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:32.000 I named after Don. 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:38.680 King put together don King today. 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:40.760 But she got her name because when I was I 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:42.520 did the big chopping when she was growing back. One 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.359 night I was cooking live and it was like straight 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:46.760 up in the top. I was like, why's that piece 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.320 of hair, you know, sticking straight up looking like Don King. 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:50.760 I was like, I'm about to call her Donna, and 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:51.639 it's stuff. 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:52.160 It's stuck. 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:53.280 Yeah. 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:55.680 I love that you dedicated your new book to you. 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:56.359 Yeah. 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:57.480 Why was that important to do? 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:02.080 Cause I'm the one who made the decision to choose myself, 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:04.880 sure right, And I made the decision to stop being 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.639 afraid and to live my life my way and to 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:12.359 try new things. And the biggest thing I ever did 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:15.520 for thirty days was go vegan and it saved my life. 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:18.040 And I was like, girl, this for youtab. I prayed 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:21.680 that I forever and always do new things every day. 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:23.200 I want to do that for the rest of my life, 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:24.600 cooking like I want to. 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:25.879 I'm gonna go back to I did a new thing, 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:28.359 but you keep bringing up the vegan thing. Cooking with spirit, 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:32.320 what does that mean? Because I've heard cooking with love spirit. 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.560 Cooking from the spirit, it means you you cook from 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:37.719 the spirit. I don't do measurements, so I cooked. I 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:40.960 just throw it together. That's how most people cook. 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:49.440 That's why so money it wasn't healthy now. 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:49.639 But that's the thing. I'm also sought free most of 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.200 the time, you know, because I know my family dynamic, right, 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.720 so all my seasonings are sought free. But yeah, but 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:57.040 we cooked from the spirit, you know a little bit 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.280 of that. And when your spirits say, oh that's enough. 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:01.000 But also you you know what you like and you 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:02.720 know what you don't like, Well, don't put the thing 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:04.639 you don't like in there. Cook from your spirit. 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.160 I was gonna ask, you know so many people listening, right, 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:11.119 and how did you know not to give up? Right? 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.440 Because I'm sure there's somebody listening right now that's been 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.840 trying music for ten years and it didn't work. And 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.320 somebody that's trying acting it didn't work. Somebody's trying to 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:19.960 be in a chef, somebody's trying to be an author, 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.679 somebody is trying to do something online and creating videos 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:27.000 and nobody's watching, and they probably said I felt I 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.359 got a sign. Yeah, when did you tell them to say, 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.080 maybe that's not the sign and maybe the change or 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:34.159 you know, how do you tell somebody to continue to 0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:35.959 keep doing what they're doing because you could have give 0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:36.840 up so many times? 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.800 Yeah, I would never really tell anybody to give up, 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:43.119 right if you think God has given you a sign. 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.920 Didn't trust the signs. For me, it was always signs, 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:52.120 and that's confirmation if it won't let you rest, if 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:53.919 you try to give up and it won't let you. 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:56.280 I tried to give up in Greensborough. I was like, 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:57.639 I'm gonna just have to live this, you know, a lot. 0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:00.359 I'm working ups, go to this call center, you know, 0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:02.720 and and we got a nice little house, you know, 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.959 got cars like that's that's We're going to church on Sundays, 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.600 like it's gonna be our regular life. God wouldn't let 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:12.679 me stop. He woke me up and it shifted me. 0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.120 I would see people. I worked at a staffing agency 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.439 for a while in Greensboro, and I never forget we talking. 0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:25.000 Two thousand and three and I had went to I 0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:26.879 was in the drive through on my lunch break, and 0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:29.320 when I got to the window, the little guy was 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.000 like he's a little white guy. He was like, oh 0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.600 my God. I was like, oh my God, like what 0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.720 we like, what are we doing? He was like, aren't 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.040 you the lady on the on the kids show? I 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.439 was like, now, I work as collective staffing. He was 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:48.480 like okay. I said, oh okay. He was like, no, 0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:51.640 you're not. Yes, you're the lady that has a kid. 0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:54.040 I ain't got no kids show. I have a kids 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.520 show now, absolutely. But it was like God was just 0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.840 telling me he sees your destiny. Wow, he sees what's 0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:02.440 com But I had no like it would happen to 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:04.520 me all the time, Me and my husbandhen we first 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:06.280 moved to la but this would happen even when we 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:08.960 lived in North Carolina. We would go to the mall 0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.879 with our little girls. People would stop us all the 0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:16.280 time and be like, y'all look like y'all are y'all famous? 0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.240 And we're like, we live in Greensburg, we work at ups, 0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.080 Like what are y'all talking about? But people would just 0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:26.200 stop and stare and we never understood why. But God 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.760 would always say, they see your destiny. So it would 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:33.280 be signs like that. Then also I would dream and 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:35.200 I would see these things, and I would tell my husband, 0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:38.560 I'm like, this is gonna happen. We're gonna have this house, 0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.359 the house I live in now. I describe to a 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:43.560 t to my husband to the point we were in 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.600 escrow on another house and this house just popped up 0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:49.080 and we was like, let's just go see it. I 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.160 had a phone call, so I couldn't walk in the house. 0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.480 When he did, he walked in the house, he came 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.119 back out. He was like, this is our house. This 0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:57.359 this the house you described we're gonna we're gonna get 0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:59.480 this house. You might as well call the people and 0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.240 tell me close the ass grown other and like we're 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.480 gonna follo out as grown that this is our house. 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.920 I walked in. I was like, dang, this is the house. 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.159 Of course, that's the house we live in now. But 0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:15.320 those are the signs that we have to not ignore. 0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:19.920 But also we have to kind of ignore the noise 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:24.080 of people who tell you can't. But also we have 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.000 to be honest with ourselves. If you are not really 0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:31.159 doing the work for the dream that you have, is 0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:34.280 it really your dream? Right? Because sometimes it might be 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.480 a goal. And the difference between a goal and a 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.000 dream is a goal is something that you create. A 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:43.760 dream is deposited inside of you. God does that. You 0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.919 don't make up a dream, It lives inside of you. 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.440 So be honest with yourself. Do you want it because 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.320 you see somebody else with it? It would look cool 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.720 to you? Do you just want to make money? Or 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:56.480 is it something that won't let you rest. 0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.880 I have a chapter in my first book called fuck 0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.040 your dreams if it's not because a lot of times 0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:03.840 we see things working for other people. 0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:05.560 That's why we think that's our dream. 0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.840 Like, no, that's not your dream, that's something that God 0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:08.760 had for somebody else. 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.320 But what do you find your dream? 0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:15.400 Absolutely never never compare your life and absolutely don't try 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.400 to get it because somebody else got it. You could 0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.159 be inspired by anybody, but you got to set your 0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:22.960 own path. But your dream that has to live inside 0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:26.080 of you, because then it won't ever feel like You'll 0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.160 have moments because I definitely have moments of like, Lord, 0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:31.040 when it's going to happen or you feel stuck, but 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.760 it still won't make you give up on it. You'll 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.479 still be like I gotta figure it out, like, well, 0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:37.760 what are you calling me to do? 0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:38.080 Lord? 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.959 But also for me, I only wanted to be an 0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:44.600 actor for so long. That was my goal, and God 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.639 had to really like sit me down and say, listen, 0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:51.000 you can be an actor. You can you can be 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.880 a series regular, you could be in films. You can 0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.280 do that tall, but let me show you what I 0:27:56.280 --> 0:28:00.640 can do. And that's when the overflow came. I still 0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:04.000 am a actress, but I'm also a CEO of my 0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.959 own business, multiple businesses, right, I have multiple partnerships. I 0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:11.200 have two New York Times bestsellers. Right, it's so many 0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.560 different things that I do now that I was keeping 0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:15.880 myself in a box because I only had one thing. 0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.320 Then when I was like this thing that lives inside 0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:20.920 of me, the dreams I've had. I didn't just get 0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:23.080 that from being an actor. I got it from doing 0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.520 whatever God called me to do. So when I gave 0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:27.840 him my life, that meant I'm going to live my 0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.720 life however you tell me God, And that opened the 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.600 door for me to allow him to bless me in 0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:33.280 the way he has. 0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:35.000 How important is being of service? 0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:37.600 It's so important. 0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:38.200 You know. 0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.960 I live a life of obedience, but I feel like 0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:46.880 I'm supposed to be for people. I feel like that's 0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:48.560 what I was called to do, to love people, to 0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:53.360 be compassionate, to bring joy, help people laugh, also help 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.840 people cry who need that. I understand that's a superpower 0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:00.520 to have that everybody doesn't have to control somebody's emotions 0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:06.360 and to help them, And that's my assignment. I believe that, 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.080 and God has set me on a path and I 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:10.200 will forever do that. 0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.080 You got to tell me your morning routine, Tabitha. 0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.800 I need to know mentally, spiritually, emotionally, what do you 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:18.400 do in the morning to get grounded? 0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:23.360 Drink water, a glass of water in the Holy water. 0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:27.920 What is it out the line? 0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.280 It's a regular old filter water, but that is a 0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.040 part of it. I drink. I drink water in the morning. 0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:37.520 I pray in the morning. Of course when I work out, 0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:41.200 most times I work out in silence because that's when 0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:45.800 I hear a lot and so I allow God to, 0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.960 you know, just pour into me whatever I need in 0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.600 that moment for that day, maybe even for that hour. 0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:54.720 Sometimes you'll see me do videos of them in the gym. 0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.840 It's because He just gave it to me. But yeah, 0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.240 but I spend my my quiet time in the mornings. 0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:06.800 I do self checking throughout my day, and I always 0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:10.320 in my night with myself and make sure I'm not 0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:14.000 taking nothing into my sleep like hearing it, you know, 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.320 from the day, like something I might be holding onto, 0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.560 because I don't want to be heavy in my mind 0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:19.120 in my sleep. 0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.560 How do you do that and navigate social media? Because 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.560 social media can be one of the most toxic places 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:26.640 on the planet. So how do you spend time on 0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:30.040 social media but still be able to disconnect, to reconnect 0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:30.680 with yourself? 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.480 I think because the things that I look at, a 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:40.520 lot of positive stuff show up on mind. But I 0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:44.120 also if it's if it's toxic or if it's negative, 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.200 it ain't my business. I don't want I don't want 0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:46.920 no part of it. 0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:47.600 You know. 0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:52.200 I look for joy. I'm intentional with that. I'm intentional 0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.680 with spreading that. You know, when people come to my 0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:57.640 my page, whichever one it is, it's gonna be joy, 0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:01.400 it's gonna be laughter, it's gonna be inspiration. It's enough 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:03.200 negative in the world. I don't want to be part 0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.800 of it. So I'm just intentional with it, and so 0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:07.600 it don't bother me. 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.520 Can we talk about some of these chapters. Yeah, do 0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.000 something new with check your triggers. 0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:16.920 Do something new and check your triggers. Absolutely. So I 0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:22.440 had my first mammogram when I was doing my thirty days, 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.040 and my first one was supposed to be during the pandemic, 0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.240 but you know how everybody counseled their appointments, so I 0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:29.920 never did it. I was like, oh, I put it 0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:30.960 off for so long. I was like, let me go 0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:32.400 ahead and do me a mammogram since I'm doing a 0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.120 new thing now. When I go to the doctor, I'm 0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.720 always triggered, just because I was sick for so long, 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.640 so just a regular checkup to me is triggering. But 0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:42.280 I always be like, all right, girl, you all right. 0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.160 You know that's a you gotta check yourself. So when 0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.120 I went in from a mammogram, it was a normal thing. 0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.320 They called me a couple of days later and said, hey, 0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:53.640 we want to take a closer look. We saw something 0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.560 in the image, and I was like, okay, but they 0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:58.560 did say, you know, don't be alarm, this is this 0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:01.040 is a normal kind of routine thing. So I go 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.960 back in. So they did a closer look, and before 0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:05.560 they did it, the nurse told me she was like, 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:09.800 if they see something and their concern, they'll ask for 0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:13.440 ultrasound after and I was like okay. So they did 0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.520 the image and they came back in and it was 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.440 like multiple doctors. They was like, we saw something, we 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.080 would like to take an ultrasound. So now I'm like, well, 0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:22.680 she said if they was concerned, they want to do it, 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.880 you know, ultrasound. So I was like okay, and my 0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.240 husband was in the lobby. I was like, have my 0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:30.320 husband come back here so he knows why it's taking 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.560 so long. And so I told him and I could 0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:34.400 see he kind of got like a little you know 0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:39.200 trigger as well. So they did the ultrasound and then 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:40.760 they you know, took us in the office and they 0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.200 was like, there's there's definitely a mask that we see 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.920 and we're gonna need to do a biopsy. And they 0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:48.760 couldn't do the biopsy. It was like a couple of weeks, 0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.160 like maybe two weeks. And this was during the first 0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.720 time I was nominated for Emmy last year, so I 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.360 don't I had to go through you know, press and 0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.480 go to the Emmys knowing that I had to go 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:03.480 get this spot the day after the Emmys, and so 0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:09.680 the old Tab would have got online and researched everything 0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:13.280 about you know, mass and breast cancer, and I would 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.360 have told myself it's cancer. I would have went into 0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:20.320 straight on panic attack everything. But the moment that I 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.000 started thinking about it, I was like, no, Tab, we 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:27.400 gotta check this trigger. You can't just diagnose yourself. You 0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.640 can't start thinking the worst. You can't go back to 0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:33.240 your old habits. Right. They said it could be something 0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:36.560 or it could be nothing. Let's wait to find out 0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:38.800 what it is before you have any kind of reaction. 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.840 And in that moment, I realized I really been doing 0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:43.680 the work on myself. 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:44.440 You know. 0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.479 It made me proud. I was like, I'm really on 0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:51.360 the healing journey. I've come a long way. Because it's 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.560 rough when you've been sick, and it's a real trigger, right, 0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.200 So you check your triggers, but you can still do 0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.200 something new. So that's where that came from. And when 0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.160 I went ahead to biopsy it was nothing. 0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.760 Is it better to just stay in that gray area 0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:06.960 when things like that happen, When somebody says it could 0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.080 be something or it can be nothing, of course you'd 0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.279 be like, well, I'm hoping there's nothing, yeah, right, or 0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.200 you might be like, well, it's probably something, isn't it. 0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.959 Just to stay in Yeah, I mean in my mind, 0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:18.880 I was like, I ain't gonna claim nothing, so of 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.160 course I'm gonna say, oh it ain't. You know, the 0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:25.960 name of Jesus ain't gonna be nothing. Right, But in 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.920 being in reality you wanna. For me, I was like, 0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:31.560 I'm gonna stay in this. I'm gonna listen to what 0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:33.319 they said. It could be something, could be nothing. I'm 0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:37.200 gonna claim nothing. But for most people, if they're not 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:40.479 there yet in their faith, then stay in that middle 0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.600 ground until you have evidence of what. 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:43.439 It is that's right. 0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:47.960 Now another chapter, do something that breaks the rules but 0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:48.600 not the law. 0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:53.040 Oh so I tell people that all the time, Like, 0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:56.080 you know, some rules are said by us, you know, 0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.360 by people as well as laws. 0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:00.839 Right, But your kids come back with you all the time, 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:02.920 Mommy said, break the rules. 0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:07.640 It's not exactly exactly, but I talk about this in 0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:09.279 the book that you know. I had got invited to 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.960 a party, you know, and it was a strict dress 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:16.080 code where they wanted you to wear black. I don't 0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.560 like wearing black, and this is about as black as 0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:20.719 a get for me. I love color it makes me 0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:22.759 happy when I wear like all black, it makes me 0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:26.880 feel weird. Yeah, I don't know, like even at funerals, 0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:28.400 like in my family we wear a lot of colors 0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.160 or we were white, but it just makes me feel 0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.040 a little I don't know, maybe sad. And I realize 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:34.279 that if I do wear I gotta have like a 0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.960 proper color my lips or something. I don't know, but 0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:39.080 I was like, I don't want to wear black to 0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:43.280 this thing. I gotta figure something out. So I found 0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.400 like I had this it was like a blazer, but 0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.560 it was the background was black, but they had a 0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:49.239 bunch of colors and patters on it, and I wore 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:52.720 like some black bill a bottomed pants. Got there and 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.319 a lot of other people had more black, and so 0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.160 I was like, this is why we can break the 0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:01.239 rules sometime. You know. I could said okay, I'm we're 0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:04.200 all black and being uncomfortable all night and then got 0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.799 there and being mad, like look at other people. They 0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:08.600 ain't wear what they said. We're supposed to wear it, right, 0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:11.160 So that's what I mean by that, sometime we can 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:12.839 break the rules. Just don't break the law. 0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:14.640 So you ain't never gonna follow in a dress code. 0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.520 If it's an all white party and nothing. 0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:21.520 You can ye, but yeah, I mean I would wear it. 0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.040 But it's gonna have to have a little something that 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.439 make me feel like tap, you know, because I also 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.040 want to go in and be myself, you know, So 0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:30.440 do something. 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:34.480 That requires you to face your losses. That's a powerful one. 0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:39.759 So when I you know, I had a restaurant, right 0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:43.000 and when I had my restaurant, it was a partnership, 0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:46.720 and we had a lot of problems with the building. 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.360 And so because the kill my Name is the restaurant 0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:51.080 in Chicago that I fell in love with. So when 0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:52.480 he came to l A, I was like, Oh, I 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.520 partnered with you in an open a restaurant. I didn't 0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.560 know the restaurant business, but this building gave us a 0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:01.280 lot of issues, and so we ultimately had to to close. 0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:05.640 And so I was like, oh man, it felt like 0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:09.400 a loss to me because I had had, you know, 0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.880 so much happening. People would come in. I would people 0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.719 come from all over to just meet me at the restaurant. 0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:16.720 And I wasn't there every day, but on the weekends 0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:18.640 or whenever I could, I would go and just be 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:20.239 there all day to make sure, I got to see 0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:24.399 people when they came, and so we ended up having 0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.799 to shut it down, and I was like really kind 0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:29.640 of hurt about, you know, for a while, and I 0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:31.800 really couldn't talk about it because were having legal problems 0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:33.200 with the you know, the building on it, because it 0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:36.680 was the whole thing. And so when it was time 0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:40.319 to do my taxes, I've been carrying this, like, man, 0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:44.040 I feel so bad about it. I realized that the 0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:49.160 loss had really blessed me. I wasn't win, right, and 0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:51.520 so I was like, sometimes we got to look at 0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:53.960 the loss for what it is. Maybe it ain't a loss, 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:55.960 you know, but also it opened up doors to me 0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:57.360 and now I have you know, my food and stuff 0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:01.440 at Target. So I was like, it won't necessary a loss, 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.360 you know, we can't always look at them, you know, 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:06.239 things like that. So it actually blessed me because I 0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:07.080 ain't have to pay as. 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.839 Much's a little bit. Let's run some of this stuff 0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:11.160 done now. So you got deals with Target? 0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:11.839 Who else? Come on? 0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.279 Don't need to be humble in this moment like a 0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:18.319 rapper right now? You know, you got the tap time 0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:20.920 booming on YouTube. I got deals with Target? You got 0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:21.600 book deals? 0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:22.360 What else. 0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.440 I have my own seasoning with McCormick Spice. I have 0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:27.040 six of. 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:30.359 Those Fridays with tab and I do have. 0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:32.960 Frides having Chance. I do very good Mondays where I 0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:36.239 blessed small businesses every Monday. Of course, I have my 0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:43.239 own merch that feel weird to just name everything, but 0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.719 I don't even you know, I still do my active thing, 0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.920 you know. I launched a production company in a partnership 0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:56.880 with Stephen Love with may Love Media. 0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:01.560 Yeah, I don't know when I thought about you, uh, 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:02.799 And I mean I knew you was coming in, but 0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:04.880 when I heard Eastern Ray talk about how she's just 0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:08.480 basically tired of dealing with the Hollywood ringham Mo roll 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.040 and she just wants to do things independent, You're one 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:11.960 of the first people that I. 0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.120 Think about it. Because it took a while for me to. 0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.239 Even realize you weren't on Nickelodeon or something, because I 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.399 just would always see you on my TV and then 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:18.879 that I was. 0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:21.200 Like to turn time time on. I'm like, what channels 0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.520 have on you? She's like, it's YouTube or like YouTube. 0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:24.680 I didn't really I didn't even realize. 0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:27.160 Yeah, because the YouTube had YouTube originals for a while 0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:30.080 and they don't have it anymore, but the show is 0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:32.960 still there while we're searching for a new home for it, 0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:36.960 but we still own it. Right, nobody owns the YouTube 0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:37.520 didn't own it. 0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:38.239 I can't believe that. 0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:41.640 Nickelodeon, Netflix, all the people not beating your door down, well, you. 0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:43.359 Know some of them are okay. 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:44.600 But it has to be right. 0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:45.480 Absolutely. 0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.520 I won't say yes to just anything. It's got to 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:53.240 be right. There's no people have to understand. You can't 0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:56.800 own me, right, there's a price that we can partner, 0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.640 but you can't. You can't own tab. 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:01.239 And you have all the leverage. 0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:03.440 Yeah, I mean we got all the you know, the 0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:06.040 data is there, the numbers don't lie, and so like 0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.480 country wa ain't saying. I mean you got to tell 0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:12.200 me why I need you? So yeah with love. 0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:15.440 No, that's a great thing to say. You can't own me. 0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:16.840 But there is a price department. 0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:20.840 You can always there's always a price department because I'm priceless, Like, 0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.439 there's no amount of money that you can can say, 0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.839 oh this is no out take that, but that ain't 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:27.399 what I'm worthy. 0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.640 There's a value amount exactly. 0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.479 There'sn't there's an amount absolutely, what. 0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:31.759 Does it mean? 0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:36.120 To have a free soul, I think, I mean, my 0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.560 life is a kind of example of that. And you, 0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.319 you know, you kind of don't let the world in. 0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.479 Don't worry about what but other folks think about you. 0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.799 Live your life for you and do it in a 0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:52.560 way that is graceful, and just let God guide you. 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.279 But don't worry about what somebody think about you. And 0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.200 you know what the world tells you you should be 0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.520 because I know what it's like not to be free, 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:03.920 and being free is the best gift you can give 0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.040 to yourself. That's how we were born to be. 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:10.160 Do you feel like you're walking in the purpose that 0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:10.920 God has to you? 0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:17.440 Absolutely, do something that reveals your purpose? Chapter thirty, day thirty. 0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.480 Do something I don't even know which one that is. 0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.800 Since day thirty, do something that reveals your purpose in 0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:25.400 the chapter. 0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.479 Titles, I mean, because I talk about it throughout the book, 0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:29.760 I'm trying to remember which one that is that reveals 0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:32.440 your purpose. But I mean, I'm sure we've talked about it, 0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:37.520 like with dreams and being vocal about it. For me, 0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:42.600 it's always that, you know, don't shy away from your gifts, 0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:45.120 be honest, be open about it, even if you think 0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:48.279 people are gonna think you crazy. People love to call 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.640 me like a witch or crazy. Like there's a certain 0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.960 amount of people I guess, like on TikTok and stuff, 0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:57.359 they'd be like, oh, that you a witch, you know, 0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:01.359 And I'm like, I'm not a witch. Right. I know 0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:03.600 what my purpose is and I know that I have 0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:07.759 a gift, and I give God all the credit for 0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:12.560 everything that I am. And so my purpose is to 0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:16.600 love people, to uplift people, but also help people heal. 0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.759 But also if God gives me a word, I'm going 0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:25.680 to share it. You know, when I was on Club 0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:31.880 with Shannon, I gave him a word in you know, confidence, 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.080 like off camera. It was his choice to share that. 0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:38.839 And after that people even more was like I told 0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.239 y'all that girl, I told you. And I'm like, that's 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.640 not being a witsh that is being you know, God's 0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:47.640 servant and being a vessel. And that's part of my purpose. 0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.440 So it is amazing to me that we give everybody 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:51.520 credit except for God. 0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:54.480 We will put labels on all types of stuff, always 0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.440 say it's got to be something evil. No, God gives 0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.560 you clear vision, give. 0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:01.359 It to all of us. And he also gives all 0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:04.000 of us the good right, you know that gut feeling. 0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.600 I always tell people that's called the gift under the tummy. 0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:09.680 That's the good. 0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:12.840 Brown. I can be there talking to you forever. 0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:13.840 New book. 0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:14.960 I did a new thing. 0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:16.360 We appreciate you for joining us stage. 0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:20.359 Should I end it? How I end my video? Okay, 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.239 Well listen. First of all, thank y'all for having me. 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:26.279 I appreciate y'all. This is my camera. Yes, honey, Oh 0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:29.440 you've been there the whole time. Well, lord, well listen, 0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:31.759 thank y'all. Y'all going bout y'all business. All right, have 0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.160 the most amazing day. But even if you can't have 0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:35.880 a good one, don't you they'll go messing up. Nobody 0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:37.719 else is here. God, bless y'all. Love y'all. 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:39.320 It'sakfast, good morning. 0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:43.800 Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.