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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in Steve j Envy, Charlamagne the guy.

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Speaker 3: We are the breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the building time time

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Speaker 2: who celebrating her birthday next week.

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Speaker 4: I am this weekend.

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Speaker 2: This weekend, ladies and gentlemen, Tabitha Brown, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm amazing. If I was in the bed, i'd be

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Speaker 4: two people.

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Speaker 1: I love that hoodie.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Freedom over colde switching? What's that mean?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I spent a very long time code

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Speaker 4: switching and conforming and that's not freedom. So I no

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Speaker 4: longer live that way. And so I always tell people, honey,

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Speaker 4: we got to freedom over colde switching. We'd enough just

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Speaker 4: as we are, even if we're from the country, even

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Speaker 4: if we're from the South. It's just a thing. So

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Speaker 4: I promote that all the time.

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Speaker 1: There you go, I feel like I know you because

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Speaker 1: I told you when I saw you over the summer.

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Speaker 5: I'm like when my kids watched taping the Brown all

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Speaker 5: the time on YouTube. And then you know, my wife

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Speaker 5: has the cookbooks, the vegan cookbooks around the house, like

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Speaker 5: she was giving them out of his gifts to people

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Speaker 5: like you.

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Speaker 2: And we got to congratulate her on at me as well,

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Speaker 2: just want to acting congratulations.

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Speaker 4: It still feels surreal, you know, but I feel grateful

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Speaker 4: to have one for just like being myself, right, but

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Speaker 4: something so powerful that it's for children. But it still

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Speaker 4: feels like it didn't happen. It feels like a dream almost.

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Speaker 4: But the crazy thing is there's another side of that

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Speaker 4: that it feels completely normal. It's like a it's a

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Speaker 4: it's a weird.

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Speaker 1: Feeling, it's yours.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like, oh, this is what God intended

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Speaker 4: for my life. Absolutely, But the other side of it

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Speaker 4: is like, did that really happen?

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Speaker 1: So? But yeah, how did the Internet change your life?

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Speaker 4: Shoot, honey in every way? You know, I was, I

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Speaker 4: still am an actress, but for a long time, you know,

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Speaker 4: I was pursuing acting and nobody really knew me from

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Speaker 4: you know, acting, And I started doing content doing you know, videos,

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Speaker 4: not because I wanted to, but I had a dream

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Speaker 4: and God spoke to me and told me started doing videos.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, no, I don't want to do that,

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Speaker 4: you know, But I was also trying to live a

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Speaker 4: life of obedience. And I started and nobody was watching

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Speaker 4: and I was like, well, God, you told me to

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Speaker 4: these videos to watch? Why do you have me doing this?

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Speaker 4: And I started in August of twenty seventeen doing videos

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Speaker 4: and by December thirtieth, one of my videos went viral.

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Speaker 3: Which one it was?

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Speaker 4: It was a TTLA. I was eating a sandwich in

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Speaker 4: my car because I was driving Uber and because I

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Speaker 4: was on disability for over you because I was so sick.

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Speaker 4: And when I started feeling better after going vegan, I

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Speaker 4: or something. And I stopped by Whole Foods because I

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Speaker 4: my videos. When I first started, I was just telling

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Speaker 4: people I'm going vegan. When I find new vegan options,

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna share it. And by the time I

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Speaker 4: Listen? I love that's my nephew. But the next morning

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Speaker 4: four days later, Whole Foods reached out. I was like,

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Speaker 4: do so many campaigns and it ain't It's been on

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Speaker 3: Now, why have you switched to vegan for people? I

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Speaker 4: So I got sick. So January of twenty sixteen, I

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Speaker 4: don't know if you know teenagers, honey, but it ain't

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Speaker 4: My mama died at fifty one of a rare disease.

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Speaker 4: People get sick at young ages in my family, and

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Speaker 4: I told my husband, let's do like a thirty day

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Speaker 4: had chronic panic attacks because when you sick and you

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Speaker 4: But I always tell people that part because sometimes the

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Speaker 5: That's why I got so many questions. Number one, you

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Speaker 4: Like for me? Yeah, so I always tell people I

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Speaker 4: like I can't. She can't. But that's how God will

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Speaker 4: was living in Greensboro, North Carolina, when I had kind

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Speaker 4: But listen, I woke up like this. I had never

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've been pursuing it ever since.

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Speaker 4: Uh huh?

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Speaker 4: I don't know what money I thought I had to

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Speaker 4: I don't know what I was thinking, but we saved

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Speaker 4: Actually, okay, you know what he did.

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Speaker 4: He was like you what we was like right off Crenshaw.

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Speaker 4: we live in Balwen Hills. It's just that we don't

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Speaker 5: So that's I see now I hear the story. I

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Speaker 5: Well, one of the moments that we all saw that

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Speaker 1: You responded with such grace and such love. It was

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Speaker 4: This season in my life? Yes? Yeah. I mean the

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Speaker 4: But you can also tell when somebody is hurt. And

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Speaker 4: So, but also I just love people despite what anybody

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Speaker 2: Because you get a lot of flak for it, because

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I mean a lot of people had something

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Speaker 4: I've been my husband twenty six years, amazing, more than

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Speaker 3: How did he feel?

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Speaker 4: He felt amazing. But after what people don't know is

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Speaker 4: that we have this amount of money in the bank,

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Speaker 4: tax has been paid. We don't owe nobody that you

438
00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,439
Speaker 4: will retire. And he was like, all right, let me

439
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,800
Speaker 4: think about it. He took a leave first. He just

440
00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,280
Speaker 4: was like I don't want that on your back, you know,

441
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,440
Speaker 4: even though he has a nonprofit, but it wasn't gonna

442
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Speaker 4: make the you know, coming straight down, he won't gonna

443
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Speaker 4: make the kind of money he was making before. And

444
00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,120
Speaker 4: I was like, but now you can build it. Now,

445
00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,080
Speaker 4: you can do all the things you wanted to do. Right.

446
00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,920
Speaker 4: So it took him a while, but afterwards. Now listen,

447
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,840
Speaker 4: right now, what time is that they might be on

448
00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 4: the golf course? Okay, listen, he worked with his kids

449
00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,359
Speaker 4: three four days a week, but he'd be on that

450
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Speaker 4: golf course. He is, he is feeling it now. He's

451
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,320
Speaker 4: always heard about it, absolutely well.

452
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Speaker 5: The trustee has for you, you know, because as a man,

453
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Speaker 5: you know, they always tell us our job as the

454
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Speaker 5: protect Yeah, and to provide.

455
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that we forget that. We're a unit.

456
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Speaker 1: You've been together twenty six years. Me and my wife

457
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Speaker 1: been together twenty six years.

458
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Speaker 5: Ohner, South Carolina from Yeah kids, you know.

459
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Speaker 1: So it's like I understand that. And it don't matter

460
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Speaker 1: who make.

461
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Speaker 4: It, if one of us make it, we in it together.

462
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Speaker 1: We in it together.

463
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Speaker 4: That's exactly right.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

465
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Speaker 4: I mean he carried me. I used to have odd

466
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Speaker 4: and end jobs. You know, I would go work in maces.

467
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Speaker 4: I'll go working you know, calls and I would go

468
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Speaker 4: and I did CNA work. I would do all kinds

469
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Speaker 4: of jobs to make sure because we are partners. So

470
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Speaker 4: I would pay like utilities and stuff. I'm like, oh,

471
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Speaker 4: let me take the kids school shop and let me

472
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Speaker 4: do this because you're gonna handle the big bills. That's partnership, right,

473
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Speaker 4: And so he did that for fifteen years.

474
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Speaker 5: Man, when I was getting fired from radio and it

475
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,200
Speaker 5: was too proud to go collect unemployment checks, my wife

476
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 5: was the one working, yeah, paying the bills.

477
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Speaker 1: We was getting a victed.

478
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Speaker 5: She was the one going in front of the judge

479
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Speaker 5: and tell them why we shouldn't get a victed.

480
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Speaker 1: So I overstand absolutely.

481
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's what partners do. But so people who had,

482
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 4: you know, problems with it, they ain't never had real partnership.

483
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Speaker 1: That's right. So let's talk about this book.

484
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Speaker 5: I did a new thing, your new book, Yes, all

485
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Speaker 5: thirty days, the Living Free.

486
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Speaker 1: What is living free?

487
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 4: To Tabitha Brown, Well, you know freedom over coad switch

488
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 4: and right, we talked about that. But living free is

489
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Speaker 4: like taking the opportunity to do something even if it

490
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,159
Speaker 4: scares you, right, just doing something new. Right. I started

491
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 4: doing this challenge in twenty fourteen. I was really just

492
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 4: in search of, like getting to know myself better because

493
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 4: I still was not free, and I would do something new,

494
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 4: whether it be with my kids or by myself, and

495
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,239
Speaker 4: just to see how it would open my mind and

496
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 4: how it would make me feel. And so I did

497
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Speaker 4: that over the years, and I would always, you know,

498
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 4: learn something new about myself. Like I discovered my love

499
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 4: for hiking, and I was like, oh shoot, I never

500
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 4: would have thought that I would love hiking. And then

501
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 4: now it's something I have continued to do over the years.

502
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 4: And so I was like, if I do this again,

503
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Speaker 4: I think I want to write a book. So last

504
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 4: year I did it for thirty days and I journaled

505
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 4: it and made it into a book. And my hope

506
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Speaker 4: was that other people want to, you know, live free

507
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 4: and try new things and the other thing about freedom.

508
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 4: In order to like really go out and do something new,

509
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 4: that's the only way you're gonna know if you love

510
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 4: something or you don't like it, right, you have to

511
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,199
Speaker 4: be willing to be like, I don't care, I just

512
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 4: want to find out. Let me just see, right. So

513
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Speaker 4: it also could be something as simple as I'm gonna

514
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Speaker 4: word my hair different right now, I'm doing a you know,

515
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Speaker 4: my hair name is Donna. So I'm doing while I'm

516
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Speaker 4: on tour. I'm making a new hair style every day.

517
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Speaker 1: He says. His name is Donna.

518
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Speaker 4: Yeah, her name Donna like Donna. Oh, it's just Donna. Well,

519
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Speaker 4: I named after Don.

520
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Speaker 1: King put together don King today.

521
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Speaker 4: But she got her name because when I was I

522
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Speaker 4: did the big chopping when she was growing back. One

523
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Speaker 4: night I was cooking live and it was like straight

524
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Speaker 4: up in the top. I was like, why's that piece

525
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 4: of hair, you know, sticking straight up looking like Don King.

526
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm about to call her Donna, and

527
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Speaker 4: it's stuff.

528
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Speaker 1: It's stuck.

529
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

530
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Speaker 1: I love that you dedicated your new book to you.

531
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

532
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Speaker 1: Why was that important to do?

533
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Speaker 4: Cause I'm the one who made the decision to choose myself,

534
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 4: sure right, And I made the decision to stop being

535
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 4: afraid and to live my life my way and to

536
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 4: try new things. And the biggest thing I ever did

537
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 4: for thirty days was go vegan and it saved my life.

538
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Speaker 4: And I was like, girl, this for youtab. I prayed

539
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Speaker 4: that I forever and always do new things every day.

540
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Speaker 4: I want to do that for the rest of my life,

541
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Speaker 4: cooking like I want to.

542
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go back to I did a new thing,

543
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 5: but you keep bringing up the vegan thing. Cooking with spirit,

544
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Speaker 5: what does that mean? Because I've heard cooking with love spirit.

545
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Speaker 4: Cooking from the spirit, it means you you cook from

546
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Speaker 4: the spirit. I don't do measurements, so I cooked. I

547
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 4: just throw it together. That's how most people cook.

548
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Speaker 5: That's why so money it wasn't healthy now.

549
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Speaker 4: But that's the thing. I'm also sought free most of

550
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Speaker 4: the time, you know, because I know my family dynamic, right,

551
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Speaker 4: so all my seasonings are sought free. But yeah, but

552
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Speaker 4: we cooked from the spirit, you know a little bit

553
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Speaker 4: of that. And when your spirits say, oh that's enough.

554
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Speaker 4: But also you you know what you like and you

555
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 4: know what you don't like, Well, don't put the thing

556
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Speaker 4: you don't like in there. Cook from your spirit.

557
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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, you know so many people listening, right,

558
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Speaker 3: and how did you know not to give up? Right?

559
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Speaker 2: Because I'm sure there's somebody listening right now that's been

560
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: trying music for ten years and it didn't work. And

561
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: somebody that's trying acting it didn't work. Somebody's trying to

562
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Speaker 2: be in a chef, somebody's trying to be an author,

563
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 2: somebody is trying to do something online and creating videos

564
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Speaker 2: and nobody's watching, and they probably said I felt I

565
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Speaker 2: got a sign. Yeah, when did you tell them to say,

566
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Speaker 2: maybe that's not the sign and maybe the change or

567
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Speaker 2: you know, how do you tell somebody to continue to

568
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Speaker 2: keep doing what they're doing because you could have give

569
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: up so many times?

570
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would never really tell anybody to give up,

571
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 4: right if you think God has given you a sign.

572
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 4: Didn't trust the signs. For me, it was always signs,

573
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 4: and that's confirmation if it won't let you rest, if

574
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 4: you try to give up and it won't let you.

575
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 4: I tried to give up in Greensborough. I was like,

576
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just have to live this, you know, a lot.

577
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 4: I'm working ups, go to this call center, you know,

578
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 4: and and we got a nice little house, you know,

579
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 4: got cars like that's that's We're going to church on Sundays,

580
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 4: like it's gonna be our regular life. God wouldn't let

581
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 4: me stop. He woke me up and it shifted me.

582
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 4: I would see people. I worked at a staffing agency

583
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 4: for a while in Greensboro, and I never forget we talking.

584
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: Two thousand and three and I had went to I

585
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 4: was in the drive through on my lunch break, and

586
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 4: when I got to the window, the little guy was

587
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 4: like he's a little white guy. He was like, oh

588
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 4: my God. I was like, oh my God, like what

589
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 4: we like, what are we doing? He was like, aren't

590
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 4: you the lady on the on the kids show? I

591
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 4: was like, now, I work as collective staffing. He was

592
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Speaker 4: like okay. I said, oh okay. He was like, no,

593
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 4: you're not. Yes, you're the lady that has a kid.

594
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Speaker 4: I ain't got no kids show. I have a kids

595
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 4: show now, absolutely. But it was like God was just

596
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 4: telling me he sees your destiny. Wow, he sees what's

597
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 4: com But I had no like it would happen to

598
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 4: me all the time, Me and my husbandhen we first

599
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 4: moved to la but this would happen even when we

600
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 4: lived in North Carolina. We would go to the mall

601
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Speaker 4: with our little girls. People would stop us all the

602
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 4: time and be like, y'all look like y'all are y'all famous?

603
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: And we're like, we live in Greensburg, we work at ups,

604
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 4: Like what are y'all talking about? But people would just

605
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 4: stop and stare and we never understood why. But God

606
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 4: would always say, they see your destiny. So it would

607
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 4: be signs like that. Then also I would dream and

608
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 4: I would see these things, and I would tell my husband,

609
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is gonna happen. We're gonna have this house,

610
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 4: the house I live in now. I describe to a

611
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 4: t to my husband to the point we were in

612
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: escrow on another house and this house just popped up

613
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 4: and we was like, let's just go see it. I

614
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 4: had a phone call, so I couldn't walk in the house.

615
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 4: When he did, he walked in the house, he came

616
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 4: back out. He was like, this is our house. This

617
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 4: this the house you described we're gonna we're gonna get

618
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 4: this house. You might as well call the people and

619
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 4: tell me close the ass grown other and like we're

620
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 4: gonna follo out as grown that this is our house.

621
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 4: I walked in. I was like, dang, this is the house.

622
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 4: Of course, that's the house we live in now. But

623
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 4: those are the signs that we have to not ignore.

624
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 4: But also we have to kind of ignore the noise

625
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 4: of people who tell you can't. But also we have

626
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: to be honest with ourselves. If you are not really

627
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 4: doing the work for the dream that you have, is

628
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 4: it really your dream? Right? Because sometimes it might be

629
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 4: a goal. And the difference between a goal and a

630
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 4: dream is a goal is something that you create. A

631
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 4: dream is deposited inside of you. God does that. You

632
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 4: don't make up a dream, It lives inside of you.

633
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 4: So be honest with yourself. Do you want it because

634
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 4: you see somebody else with it? It would look cool

635
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 4: to you? Do you just want to make money? Or

636
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 4: is it something that won't let you rest.

637
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 5: I have a chapter in my first book called fuck

638
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 5: your dreams if it's not because a lot of times

639
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 5: we see things working for other people.

640
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: That's why we think that's our dream.

641
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 5: Like, no, that's not your dream, that's something that God

642
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 5: had for somebody else.

643
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: But what do you find your dream?

644
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 4: Absolutely never never compare your life and absolutely don't try

645
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 4: to get it because somebody else got it. You could

646
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 4: be inspired by anybody, but you got to set your

647
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 4: own path. But your dream that has to live inside

648
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 4: of you, because then it won't ever feel like You'll

649
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 4: have moments because I definitely have moments of like, Lord,

650
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: when it's going to happen or you feel stuck, but

651
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 4: it still won't make you give up on it. You'll

652
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 4: still be like I gotta figure it out, like, well,

653
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: what are you calling me to do?

654
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: Lord?

655
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 4: But also for me, I only wanted to be an

656
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: actor for so long. That was my goal, and God

657
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 4: had to really like sit me down and say, listen,

658
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 4: you can be an actor. You can you can be

659
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 4: a series regular, you could be in films. You can

660
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 4: do that tall, but let me show you what I

661
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 4: can do. And that's when the overflow came. I still

662
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 4: am a actress, but I'm also a CEO of my

663
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 4: own business, multiple businesses, right, I have multiple partnerships. I

664
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 4: have two New York Times bestsellers. Right, it's so many

665
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: different things that I do now that I was keeping

666
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 4: myself in a box because I only had one thing.

667
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: Then when I was like this thing that lives inside

668
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 4: of me, the dreams I've had. I didn't just get

669
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: that from being an actor. I got it from doing

670
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: whatever God called me to do. So when I gave

671
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 4: him my life, that meant I'm going to live my

672
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 4: life however you tell me God, And that opened the

673
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 4: door for me to allow him to bless me in

674
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 4: the way he has.

675
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: How important is being of service?

676
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 4: It's so important.

677
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: You know.

678
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: I live a life of obedience, but I feel like

679
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be for people. I feel like that's

680
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 4: what I was called to do, to love people, to

681
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 4: be compassionate, to bring joy, help people laugh, also help

682
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: people cry who need that. I understand that's a superpower

683
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: to have that everybody doesn't have to control somebody's emotions

684
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 4: and to help them, And that's my assignment. I believe that,

685
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: and God has set me on a path and I

686
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 4: will forever do that.

687
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: You got to tell me your morning routine, Tabitha.

688
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 5: I need to know mentally, spiritually, emotionally, what do you

689
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 5: do in the morning to get grounded?

690
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 4: Drink water, a glass of water in the Holy water.

691
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: What is it out the line?

692
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 4: It's a regular old filter water, but that is a

693
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: part of it. I drink. I drink water in the morning.

694
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 4: I pray in the morning. Of course when I work out,

695
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 4: most times I work out in silence because that's when

696
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: I hear a lot and so I allow God to,

697
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 4: you know, just pour into me whatever I need in

698
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: that moment for that day, maybe even for that hour.

699
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 4: Sometimes you'll see me do videos of them in the gym.

700
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 4: It's because He just gave it to me. But yeah,

701
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 4: but I spend my my quiet time in the mornings.

702
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: I do self checking throughout my day, and I always

703
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 4: in my night with myself and make sure I'm not

704
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 4: taking nothing into my sleep like hearing it, you know,

705
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 4: from the day, like something I might be holding onto,

706
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: because I don't want to be heavy in my mind

707
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: in my sleep.

708
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 5: How do you do that and navigate social media? Because

709
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 5: social media can be one of the most toxic places

710
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 5: on the planet. So how do you spend time on

711
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 5: social media but still be able to disconnect, to reconnect

712
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 5: with yourself?

713
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: I think because the things that I look at, a

714
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 4: lot of positive stuff show up on mind. But I

715
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 4: also if it's if it's toxic or if it's negative,

716
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: it ain't my business. I don't want I don't want

717
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 4: no part of it.

718
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: You know.

719
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: I look for joy. I'm intentional with that. I'm intentional

720
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: with spreading that. You know, when people come to my

721
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: my page, whichever one it is, it's gonna be joy,

722
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 4: it's gonna be laughter, it's gonna be inspiration. It's enough

723
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 4: negative in the world. I don't want to be part

724
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 4: of it. So I'm just intentional with it, and so

725
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 4: it don't bother me.

726
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 5: Can we talk about some of these chapters. Yeah, do

727
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 5: something new with check your triggers.

728
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 4: Do something new and check your triggers. Absolutely. So I

729
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 4: had my first mammogram when I was doing my thirty days,

730
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: and my first one was supposed to be during the pandemic,

731
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: but you know how everybody counseled their appointments, so I

732
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: never did it. I was like, oh, I put it

733
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: off for so long. I was like, let me go

734
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: ahead and do me a mammogram since I'm doing a

735
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 4: new thing now. When I go to the doctor, I'm

736
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 4: always triggered, just because I was sick for so long,

737
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: so just a regular checkup to me is triggering. But

738
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 4: I always be like, all right, girl, you all right.

739
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 4: You know that's a you gotta check yourself. So when

740
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: I went in from a mammogram, it was a normal thing.

741
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 4: They called me a couple of days later and said, hey,

742
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: we want to take a closer look. We saw something

743
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 4: in the image, and I was like, okay, but they

744
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: did say, you know, don't be alarm, this is this

745
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 4: is a normal kind of routine thing. So I go

746
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: back in. So they did a closer look, and before

747
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 4: they did it, the nurse told me she was like,

748
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: if they see something and their concern, they'll ask for

749
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: ultrasound after and I was like okay. So they did

750
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: the image and they came back in and it was

751
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: like multiple doctors. They was like, we saw something, we

752
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 4: would like to take an ultrasound. So now I'm like, well,

753
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: she said if they was concerned, they want to do it,

754
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 4: you know, ultrasound. So I was like okay, and my

755
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: husband was in the lobby. I was like, have my

756
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: husband come back here so he knows why it's taking

757
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: so long. And so I told him and I could

758
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: see he kind of got like a little you know

759
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 4: trigger as well. So they did the ultrasound and then

760
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 4: they you know, took us in the office and they

761
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 4: was like, there's there's definitely a mask that we see

762
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 4: and we're gonna need to do a biopsy. And they

763
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 4: couldn't do the biopsy. It was like a couple of weeks,

764
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: like maybe two weeks. And this was during the first

765
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: time I was nominated for Emmy last year, so I

766
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: don't I had to go through you know, press and

767
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: go to the Emmys knowing that I had to go

768
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 4: get this spot the day after the Emmys, and so

769
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: the old Tab would have got online and researched everything

770
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 4: about you know, mass and breast cancer, and I would

771
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: have told myself it's cancer. I would have went into

772
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 4: straight on panic attack everything. But the moment that I

773
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 4: started thinking about it, I was like, no, Tab, we

774
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: gotta check this trigger. You can't just diagnose yourself. You

775
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: can't start thinking the worst. You can't go back to

776
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 4: your old habits. Right. They said it could be something

777
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: or it could be nothing. Let's wait to find out

778
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 4: what it is before you have any kind of reaction.

779
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 4: And in that moment, I realized I really been doing

780
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 4: the work on myself.

781
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: You know.

782
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 4: It made me proud. I was like, I'm really on

783
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 4: the healing journey. I've come a long way. Because it's

784
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 4: rough when you've been sick, and it's a real trigger, right,

785
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 4: So you check your triggers, but you can still do

786
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 4: something new. So that's where that came from. And when

787
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: I went ahead to biopsy it was nothing.

788
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 5: Is it better to just stay in that gray area

789
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 5: when things like that happen, When somebody says it could

790
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 5: be something or it can be nothing, of course you'd

791
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 5: be like, well, I'm hoping there's nothing, yeah, right, or

792
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 5: you might be like, well, it's probably something, isn't it.

793
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 4: Just to stay in Yeah, I mean in my mind,

794
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 4: I was like, I ain't gonna claim nothing, so of

795
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: course I'm gonna say, oh it ain't. You know, the

796
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 4: name of Jesus ain't gonna be nothing. Right, But in

797
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 4: being in reality you wanna. For me, I was like,

798
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay in this. I'm gonna listen to what

799
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: they said. It could be something, could be nothing. I'm

800
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: gonna claim nothing. But for most people, if they're not

801
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 4: there yet in their faith, then stay in that middle

802
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 4: ground until you have evidence of what.

803
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: It is that's right.

804
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: Now another chapter, do something that breaks the rules but

805
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: not the law.

806
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 4: Oh so I tell people that all the time, Like,

807
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: you know, some rules are said by us, you know,

808
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 4: by people as well as laws.

809
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 2: Right, But your kids come back with you all the time,

810
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: Mommy said, break the rules.

811
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: It's not exactly exactly, but I talk about this in

812
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: the book that you know. I had got invited to

813
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 4: a party, you know, and it was a strict dress

814
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: code where they wanted you to wear black. I don't

815
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: like wearing black, and this is about as black as

816
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 4: a get for me. I love color it makes me

817
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 4: happy when I wear like all black, it makes me

818
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 4: feel weird. Yeah, I don't know, like even at funerals,

819
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 4: like in my family we wear a lot of colors

820
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 4: or we were white, but it just makes me feel

821
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: a little I don't know, maybe sad. And I realize

822
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 4: that if I do wear I gotta have like a

823
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: proper color my lips or something. I don't know, but

824
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't want to wear black to

825
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 4: this thing. I gotta figure something out. So I found

826
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: like I had this it was like a blazer, but

827
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 4: it was the background was black, but they had a

828
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 4: bunch of colors and patters on it, and I wore

829
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 4: like some black bill a bottomed pants. Got there and

830
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 4: a lot of other people had more black, and so

831
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: I was like, this is why we can break the

832
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 4: rules sometime. You know. I could said okay, I'm we're

833
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: all black and being uncomfortable all night and then got

834
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 4: there and being mad, like look at other people. They

835
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: ain't wear what they said. We're supposed to wear it, right,

836
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 4: So that's what I mean by that, sometime we can

837
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 4: break the rules. Just don't break the law.

838
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: So you ain't never gonna follow in a dress code.

839
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: If it's an all white party and nothing.

840
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: You can ye, but yeah, I mean I would wear it.

841
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 4: But it's gonna have to have a little something that

842
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 4: make me feel like tap, you know, because I also

843
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: want to go in and be myself, you know, So

844
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 4: do something.

845
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: That requires you to face your losses. That's a powerful one.

846
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 4: So when I you know, I had a restaurant, right

847
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 4: and when I had my restaurant, it was a partnership,

848
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 4: and we had a lot of problems with the building.

849
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 4: And so because the kill my Name is the restaurant

850
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: in Chicago that I fell in love with. So when

851
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: he came to l A, I was like, Oh, I

852
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: partnered with you in an open a restaurant. I didn't

853
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 4: know the restaurant business, but this building gave us a

854
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 4: lot of issues, and so we ultimately had to to close.

855
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 4: And so I was like, oh man, it felt like

856
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 4: a loss to me because I had had, you know,

857
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 4: so much happening. People would come in. I would people

858
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 4: come from all over to just meet me at the restaurant.

859
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 4: And I wasn't there every day, but on the weekends

860
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: or whenever I could, I would go and just be

861
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 4: there all day to make sure, I got to see

862
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 4: people when they came, and so we ended up having

863
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 4: to shut it down, and I was like really kind

864
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 4: of hurt about, you know, for a while, and I

865
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 4: really couldn't talk about it because were having legal problems

866
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 4: with the you know, the building on it, because it

867
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 4: was the whole thing. And so when it was time

868
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 4: to do my taxes, I've been carrying this, like, man,

869
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 4: I feel so bad about it. I realized that the

870
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: loss had really blessed me. I wasn't win, right, and

871
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: so I was like, sometimes we got to look at

872
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 4: the loss for what it is. Maybe it ain't a loss,

873
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: you know, but also it opened up doors to me

874
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 4: and now I have you know, my food and stuff

875
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 4: at Target. So I was like, it won't necessary a loss,

876
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 4: you know, we can't always look at them, you know,

877
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 4: things like that. So it actually blessed me because I

878
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: ain't have to pay as.

879
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 5: Much's a little bit. Let's run some of this stuff

880
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 5: done now. So you got deals with Target?

881
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: Who else? Come on?

882
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 5: Don't need to be humble in this moment like a

883
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 5: rapper right now? You know, you got the tap time

884
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 5: booming on YouTube. I got deals with Target? You got

885
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 5: book deals?

886
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: What else.

887
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 4: I have my own seasoning with McCormick Spice. I have

888
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 4: six of.

889
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 3: Those Fridays with tab and I do have.

890
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 4: Frides having Chance. I do very good Mondays where I

891
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 4: blessed small businesses every Monday. Of course, I have my

892
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 4: own merch that feel weird to just name everything, but

893
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 4: I don't even you know, I still do my active thing,

894
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 4: you know. I launched a production company in a partnership

895
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 4: with Stephen Love with may Love Media.

896
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know when I thought about you, uh,

897
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 5: And I mean I knew you was coming in, but

898
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 5: when I heard Eastern Ray talk about how she's just

899
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 5: basically tired of dealing with the Hollywood ringham Mo roll

900
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 5: and she just wants to do things independent, You're one

901
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 5: of the first people that I.

902
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: Think about it. Because it took a while for me to.

903
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 5: Even realize you weren't on Nickelodeon or something, because I

904
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 5: just would always see you on my TV and then

905
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 5: that I was.

906
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: Like to turn time time on. I'm like, what channels

907
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: have on you? She's like, it's YouTube or like YouTube.

908
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: I didn't really I didn't even realize.

909
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the YouTube had YouTube originals for a while

910
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 4: and they don't have it anymore, but the show is

911
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 4: still there while we're searching for a new home for it,

912
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 4: but we still own it. Right, nobody owns the YouTube

913
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 4: didn't own it.

914
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: I can't believe that.

915
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 5: Nickelodeon, Netflix, all the people not beating your door down, well, you.

916
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: Know some of them are okay.

917
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 4: But it has to be right.

918
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

919
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 4: I won't say yes to just anything. It's got to

920
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 4: be right. There's no people have to understand. You can't

921
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 4: own me, right, there's a price that we can partner,

922
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: but you can't. You can't own tab.

923
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: And you have all the leverage.

924
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we got all the you know, the

925
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 4: data is there, the numbers don't lie, and so like

926
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: country wa ain't saying. I mean you got to tell

927
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 4: me why I need you? So yeah with love.

928
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: No, that's a great thing to say. You can't own me.

929
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: But there is a price department.

930
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 4: You can always there's always a price department because I'm priceless, Like,

931
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 4: there's no amount of money that you can can say,

932
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 4: oh this is no out take that, but that ain't

933
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 4: what I'm worthy.

934
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: There's a value amount exactly.

935
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 4: There'sn't there's an amount absolutely, what.

936
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: Does it mean?

937
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 4: To have a free soul, I think, I mean, my

938
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 4: life is a kind of example of that. And you,

939
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 4: you know, you kind of don't let the world in.

940
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 4: Don't worry about what but other folks think about you.

941
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 4: Live your life for you and do it in a

942
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 4: way that is graceful, and just let God guide you.

943
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 4: But don't worry about what somebody think about you. And

944
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: you know what the world tells you you should be

945
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 4: because I know what it's like not to be free,

946
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: and being free is the best gift you can give

947
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 4: to yourself. That's how we were born to be.

948
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're walking in the purpose that

949
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: God has to you?

950
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely, do something that reveals your purpose? Chapter thirty, day thirty.

951
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 4: Do something I don't even know which one that is.

952
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 3: Since day thirty, do something that reveals your purpose in

953
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: the chapter.

954
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 4: Titles, I mean, because I talk about it throughout the book,

955
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember which one that is that reveals

956
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: your purpose. But I mean, I'm sure we've talked about it,

957
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 4: like with dreams and being vocal about it. For me,

958
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: it's always that, you know, don't shy away from your gifts,

959
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 4: be honest, be open about it, even if you think

960
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 4: people are gonna think you crazy. People love to call

961
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: me like a witch or crazy. Like there's a certain

962
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: amount of people I guess, like on TikTok and stuff,

963
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 4: they'd be like, oh, that you a witch, you know,

964
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm not a witch. Right. I know

965
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: what my purpose is and I know that I have

966
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 4: a gift, and I give God all the credit for

967
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 4: everything that I am. And so my purpose is to

968
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 4: love people, to uplift people, but also help people heal.

969
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 4: But also if God gives me a word, I'm going

970
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: to share it. You know, when I was on Club

971
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 4: with Shannon, I gave him a word in you know, confidence,

972
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: like off camera. It was his choice to share that.

973
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 4: And after that people even more was like I told

974
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 4: y'all that girl, I told you. And I'm like, that's

975
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 4: not being a witsh that is being you know, God's

976
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: servant and being a vessel. And that's part of my purpose.

977
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 5: So it is amazing to me that we give everybody

978
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 5: credit except for God.

979
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: We will put labels on all types of stuff, always

980
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: say it's got to be something evil. No, God gives

981
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: you clear vision, give.

982
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 4: It to all of us. And he also gives all

983
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: of us the good right, you know that gut feeling.

984
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: I always tell people that's called the gift under the tummy.

985
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 4: That's the good.

986
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: Brown. I can be there talking to you forever.

987
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: New book.

988
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 5: I did a new thing.

989
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 3: We appreciate you for joining us stage.

990
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 4: Should I end it? How I end my video? Okay,

991
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 4: Well listen. First of all, thank y'all for having me.

992
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 4: I appreciate y'all. This is my camera. Yes, honey, Oh

993
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 4: you've been there the whole time. Well, lord, well listen,

994
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 4: thank y'all. Y'all going bout y'all business. All right, have

995
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 4: the most amazing day. But even if you can't have

996
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 4: a good one, don't you they'll go messing up. Nobody

997
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 4: else is here. God, bless y'all. Love y'all.

998
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 3: It'sakfast, good morning.

999
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.