Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we hope to have a
Speaker 1: better time at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium than the Jets.
Speaker 2: Did last Sunday. Get on a plane soon.
Speaker 1: Here in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio with my friends
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrigue and Colleen Wolf.
Speaker 2: We have had a news day here, Cola, lots.
Speaker 3: Of news already. It's been an eventful morning so far.
Speaker 1: It is before we started taping. Of course, Jordan Robert
Speaker 1: Sala lost his job with the Jets.
Speaker 2: Erry surprising.
Speaker 1: Drake May has already been named quarterback for the Patriots
Speaker 1: this week against the Texans. That's less surprising. And all
Speaker 1: of this is just getting in our way and of
Speaker 1: our segment. Guys who rule, Guys who rule.
Speaker 3: I know it.
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Speaker 1: And we'll can see preview TNF, which is a fun one.
Speaker 1: This week Seahawks forty nine ers for the first place
Speaker 1: in the NFC West.
Speaker 2: Like, how are you guys?
Speaker 3: Oh, feeling great?
Speaker 1: You got your Philly sweatshirt on Bills play at two o'clock.
Speaker 4: Very excited about that, significant consequences.
Speaker 1: I know, what was your first reaction when you saw
Speaker 1: the Jets let go of Robert Sala.
Speaker 2: I was really surprised.
Speaker 1: It's a Tuesday, you know, they got back from London
Speaker 1: on Monday. They're two and three, one game out of
Speaker 1: first like the Monday night football game against the Bills
Speaker 1: is for first place. I did not see this coming.
Speaker 1: Neither did anyone covering the NFL.
Speaker 4: Neither did Robert Sala. According to the reporting that's that's
Speaker 4: out there right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were reports that he was, you know, feeling
Speaker 1: positive about their chances this week, went into the building
Speaker 1: on Tuesday and was blindsided by the news.
Speaker 2: And how couldn't you be in it?
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because this is a team that, to me,
Speaker 1: has a lot of connections with the media.
Speaker 2: They're in New York, you got the.
Speaker 1: Front office in terms of the GM, Joe Douglas, you
Speaker 1: got Robert Sala, Like everyone has relationships here.
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone saw this coming.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't feel like I'm not surprised by it.
Speaker 5: I obviously there are tensions in that building and evidence
Speaker 5: by the performance in London on a huge stage, and
Speaker 5: Sala when he said that he wasn't panicked, nobody in
Speaker 5: the building was panicked. I think he underestimated that a
Speaker 5: little bit considering twenty four hours later he was fired.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if someone Sam Darnold was maybe
Speaker 3: the straw that broke the camel's back.
Speaker 4: But it's, oh my god, it's the fire time.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 5: I know the first time in Woody Johnson's twenty five
Speaker 5: year tenure that a head coach has been fired during
Speaker 5: the season.
Speaker 3: So this is unprecedented even for the Jets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not something they've done it all.
Speaker 1: They actually haven't done it as an organization since nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy six. So that's why I'm surprised, because, like, what's
Speaker 1: changed so much? It's also week six, That's what I mean,
Speaker 1: So like what's changed?
Speaker 4: And frankly, and I'm going to cite Ben Solak for
Speaker 4: pulling the stats on this quickly over at ESPN. Since
Speaker 4: the twenty twenty one season, Robert Sala's first season in
Speaker 4: New York, the Jets defense ranks first in points per drive,
Speaker 4: first and EPA per play and third and success rate.
Speaker 4: Despite playing the fourth most snaps over that stretch because
Speaker 4: they've been in terrible offensive situations. And this is that's
Speaker 4: where I think the surprise comes from, is that there
Speaker 4: is no question that Robert sala is a really, really
Speaker 4: outstanding defensive coach. So I think living in that world alone,
Speaker 4: perhaps that's where some of the surprise for him comes from.
Speaker 4: But as we know, the ecosystem of that entire organization
Speaker 4: at times seems to carry him along for the ride.
Speaker 4: Less so of him or less so have him be
Speaker 4: the one with the power and the control. That's what
Speaker 4: it looks like from the outside.
Speaker 3: It doesn't fix the offensive issues, and that's the problem.
Speaker 1: Right it just feels very personal. Let's listen to Robert,
Speaker 1: I mean Woody Johnson rather than the Jets owner talking
Speaker 1: about the expectations, and I guess this is what helps
Speaker 1: explain why a move like this would happen only five
Speaker 1: weeks into the season.
Speaker 6: You know, I've been doing this twenty five years now.
Speaker 6: This is probably the best team I've had in twenty
Speaker 6: five years. I just spent felt that the best way
Speaker 6: to go forward with a new direction and taking Jeff
Speaker 6: Pulbrook and making him the interium head coach. I thought
Speaker 6: that would get the most out of this team and
Speaker 6: give us the best chance that we all want to
Speaker 6: all want to have, which is going to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So Woody Johnson talking about this being the best Jets
Speaker 1: team that he's had, potentially, it reminds me so much
Speaker 1: of what Shad Cohn said before the season that this
Speaker 1: is the best Jaguars team they ever had. And the
Speaker 1: way I read into that is that that's what he
Speaker 1: believes based on what he's hearing from the media. The
Speaker 1: media has I think an impact on these moves sometimes
Speaker 1: and what he's hearing from the front office. Joe Douglas
Speaker 1: is out here the GM of this team. He's twenty
Speaker 1: nine and sixty nine. I believe since he's taken over,
Speaker 1: it's a totally preposterous record. And I know he took
Speaker 1: over a twenty nine and fifty nine. Sorry, I want
Speaker 1: to correct that. Twenty nine and fifty nine under Joe Douglas.
Speaker 1: He took over a tough situation, but they haven't improved
Speaker 1: much now. Robert Sala has a three fifty seven winning
Speaker 1: percentage that is the worst among active head coaches with
Speaker 1: at least fifty games except for Dennis Allen, but he
Speaker 1: has one forty nine out of one sixty three coaches
Speaker 1: all time with fifty games, so that's a pretty rough
Speaker 1: record twenty and thirty six as well. But it goes
Speaker 1: to I think believing the hype, and this tends to happen.
Speaker 1: I think in New York, like, this is not that
Speaker 1: talented of a roster. Why is this the most talented
Speaker 1: roster in Jet's history because they.
Speaker 2: Have Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 1: Because your GM potentially sold this idea that we fixed
Speaker 1: this offensive line with like a future Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: left tackle and draft bis like, is the offensive line
Speaker 1: playing well?
Speaker 2: I don't see it, Like they're not playing well.
Speaker 1: Is Aaron Rodgers playing at a better than like league
Speaker 1: average level? Like, maybe that's an upgrade than over what
Speaker 1: they've had at quarterback overall, But.
Speaker 4: They didn't sign up for an upgrade. For just an upgrade.
Speaker 4: That's the thing about you got to give it, that's
Speaker 4: the thing that's I agree, But they didn't sign up
Speaker 4: for an upgrade. And that's part of the problem is
Speaker 4: that the thinking and the rationale here, the expectations seemed
Speaker 4: to be incongruous with where the state of the roster
Speaker 4: actually was right, and so it's sort of like, you know,
Speaker 4: unstoppable force meets a movable object. The immovable object in
Speaker 4: this case is you are going to give Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: a little bit more time coming off that Achilles. And
Speaker 4: yet you are thinking, as an owner probably and as
Speaker 4: a as a staff, that change has to be made.
Speaker 4: Where I'm confused is why that change wasn't made in
Speaker 4: adjustments to the offense versus firing somebody who was still
Speaker 4: running a significantly higher level defense year over year, even
Speaker 4: though the offensive issues and not fixing them enough do have.
Speaker 4: The head coach is partially to blame for that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the line in Woody statement that jumped out at
Speaker 5: me was when he was referring to Jeff Ulbrick and
Speaker 5: said he's a tough coach who has the respect of
Speaker 5: the coaches and players.
Speaker 3: On this team.
Speaker 5: I believe he, along with the coaches on the staff,
Speaker 5: can get the most out of our talented team and
Speaker 5: attain the goals we established in the offseason. Of course,
Speaker 5: that could just be said in any instance, but considering
Speaker 5: the circumstances, I'm reading a little bit between the lines
Speaker 5: there with that, and you can see that there's an
Speaker 5: issue within the coaching ranks with it. Maybe maybe it
Speaker 5: is the respect of the coaches and the players that
Speaker 5: was a problem.
Speaker 1: Right, you have to only go back a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks to think about the whole cadence issue publicly.
Speaker 4: Yea a facial expression talking about the cadence issue too
Speaker 4: between and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: What about the hug and so about the hug?
Speaker 3: Right, there is the hands on the chest.
Speaker 2: There was the awkward.
Speaker 1: Rogers awkward hug, which if you're watching on YouTube you
Speaker 1: can see that. And they made that into Hey, this
Speaker 1: is no big deal, and I'm not saying that's the
Speaker 1: biggest deal at all. And there's all these reports coming
Speaker 1: out today that no, actually, Aaron Rodgers and Robert Sala
Speaker 1: had a good relationship, and I'm sure like on the
Speaker 1: face of it, it was good enough, But the reality
Speaker 1: is you had a public back and forth in a
Speaker 1: way that if you were emostally intelligent, which I think
Speaker 1: both these men are, but I think Rogers knows, especially
Speaker 1: that like he could have handled that in a different
Speaker 1: way that didn't make his coach look bad publicly. And
Speaker 1: all of that contributes the reporting around this firing indicates
Speaker 1: that the Broncos loss was just like a stunner to everyone,
Speaker 1: and just like, how long have you been in the NFL?
Speaker 1: None of this is that stunning. Like, first of all,
Speaker 1: the Broncos def is good. You're you're out there. It's
Speaker 1: a week to week league. Like you lost the game,
Speaker 1: it was by one point. Your offense actually looks, you know,
Speaker 1: significantly better than the other team's offense, and your quarterback
Speaker 1: look better for what it's worth in that game, and
Speaker 1: it was a one point game in the NFL. If like,
Speaker 1: your whole world is totally rocked by a one point
Speaker 1: loss at home to a decent team. It's like you're
Speaker 1: falling for the hype too much. Let's listen, as you
Speaker 1: mentioned Aaron Rodgers and maybe the respect in the locker
Speaker 1: room and all that. Woody Johnson was asked whether he
Speaker 1: spoke with Rogers before this happened.
Speaker 6: Well, I did talk to him the night before, but
Speaker 6: we didn't discuss this, you know, specifically at all. I
Speaker 6: mean we're basically talking about the previous game. And you know,
Speaker 6: his breaking sixty thousand yards sixty doan yard record and
Speaker 6: accomplishing that and sorry, I got hits so many times
Speaker 6: and that and how was he feeling. And No, in
Speaker 6: terms of whether I was going to do it or not, No,
Speaker 6: we didn't discuss that.
Speaker 5: I mean, just watching that game and seeing Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 5: after he did pass the mark of sixty thousand passing yards.
Speaker 5: It was in the middle of like one of the
Speaker 5: worst spots during the game, and he was so frustrated.
Speaker 3: And I remember we were watching it.
Speaker 5: We're like, wow, he looks so thrilled to have this
Speaker 5: milestone now, and it's just I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I can't lie and say that I'm not surprised that
Speaker 5: this is happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think too. Just to add on to
Speaker 4: that a little bit, statistically, productivity wise, the defensive side
Speaker 4: of the ball was not the problem with the defensive
Speaker 4: head coach. And so if you're pointing to this being
Speaker 4: a football decision or something to maximize the talent overall
Speaker 4: on your roster and you're not making that change or
Speaker 4: being patient with the side of the ball that is
Speaker 4: actually the one having the issue or not quite meeting
Speaker 4: the Again, extremely lofty expectation that just placed. When when
Speaker 4: those expectations circle around a team, any team, it does
Speaker 4: not matter what market you're in, it just clenches you down.
Speaker 4: You feel it in every like microscopic layer of that building.
Speaker 4: Whose expects maybe.
Speaker 2: They like in the perfect world.
Speaker 1: Here it's like it's a vibe change because Ulbrick is
Speaker 1: a defensive coach too, you know, he's the defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: and he's in the same tree. So not much as
Speaker 1: changing from the more successful side. There's just like a
Speaker 1: lot to push backcause.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, you can't call it a decision made for
Speaker 4: the best of the football team without acknowledging that the
Speaker 4: offense was the one that needed more time.
Speaker 2: And it was interesting.
Speaker 1: Jeff Olbrook said publicly today, we're going to take a
Speaker 1: deep dive on potentially changing the offensive play caller. When
Speaker 1: asked about that, I do I do not, he says,
Speaker 1: I do not see changes in titles and positions. But
Speaker 1: he's going to do a deep dive in trying to
Speaker 1: improve whatever process there is, So who knows there there
Speaker 1: could be some changes there.
Speaker 4: That was it is talked about before the start of
Speaker 4: the season. Was it not that they were going to
Speaker 4: look at, you know, what the offensive roles were.
Speaker 1: It was reported that they looked around at hiring someone
Speaker 1: over Nathaniel Hockett.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you could see Rogers visible frustration on the
Speaker 5: field to get have him get the plays in faster.
Speaker 3: I mean they kept cutting to him over and over again.
Speaker 5: I just it feels very coincidental that Robert Sala this
Speaker 5: last game of his as a head coach was against
Speaker 5: Sam Donald in a loss, and his first game ever
Speaker 5: as a head coach for the Jets was against Sam
Speaker 5: Donald in a loss with the Panthers.
Speaker 2: I have another one for you.
Speaker 1: The last time Aaron Rodgers was under an interim head
Speaker 1: coach was Joe Philben.
Speaker 2: You might remember.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Mike McCarthy got fired about six years ago
Speaker 1: now with Green Bay and Philbin finished out that season
Speaker 1: and the most exciting game in that little Philbin run
Speaker 1: was a forty two to thirty six overtime win over
Speaker 1: the Jets and Sam Donald.
Speaker 2: It all comes back.
Speaker 5: This is the Sam Darnold Podcast, everybody.
Speaker 1: The one thing I would slightly push back about Sala
Speaker 1: and the defense would be that they are playing well
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: I don't think they are. They're like twelfth in DVOA.
Speaker 1: They've gone against the fifth easiest schedule in the league.
Speaker 1: They haven't been as good as they've been in previous years.
Speaker 1: But that also gets to my point where I disagree
Speaker 1: with Woody Johnson about the most talented roster that they've
Speaker 1: ever had, Like, this is the worst defensive line I
Speaker 1: actually think Robert Sala's had because you're missing a Son Reddick,
Speaker 1: you're missing Bryce Huff who's no longer there, and Quinn
Speaker 1: Williams isn't making the same impact that he had before,
Speaker 1: whether that's all on him or he just doesn't have
Speaker 1: as much help around him. Their defense, to me this
Speaker 1: year has been pretty close to average, and they need
Speaker 1: to be great and they've been okay.
Speaker 2: They've they've been okay.
Speaker 4: You also expect your offense to be great and the
Speaker 4: two sides to compliment each other in that way. Again,
Speaker 4: that's the incongruous expectation factor that we're talking about here
Speaker 4: and so and I think if you're twelfth in DVOA
Speaker 4: and you're missing a major pass rusher that you thought
Speaker 4: you were going to have, and then other personnel and
Speaker 4: you're still playing the Vikings, who have been one of
Speaker 4: the most explosive offenses in the NFL, you're playing like
Speaker 4: that in London where paid well, they're off the Vikings
Speaker 4: offense was in knots and ways that we have not
Speaker 4: seen in London, in front of everybody, in front of
Speaker 4: the world. I think that that is again that's where
Speaker 4: some of this becomes. That's where some of the quote
Speaker 4: unquote surprise factor. Although I we could sense that this
Speaker 4: has been clenching and clenching and clenching for some time.
Speaker 1: It's do it in the off season though, because like
Speaker 1: the thing is, if they're three and two, they don't
Speaker 1: make this move. So it's just like because you lost
Speaker 1: by one point, it just do it in the off season.
Speaker 1: Then if you're that ready to fire Robert Salad, do
Speaker 1: it in the office.
Speaker 5: And then all the reports just surrounding this, with Jonathan
Speaker 5: Jones saying that Robert Sala was considering firing Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 2: That's juicy.
Speaker 5: One the reports that Robert Sala was escorted out of
Speaker 5: the building and that's not something that is typically done.
Speaker 5: I just, you know, would be interested to find out
Speaker 5: the real story here.
Speaker 4: Joe Douglas, by the way, also reportedly in the last
Speaker 4: year of his contract. Really hard to make a full
Speaker 4: change mid season. If you're going to decide on one,
Speaker 4: something has to say react with the language of the building,
Speaker 4: not saying he's unsafe, not saying he's safe, just saying
Speaker 4: that's the reporting out there.
Speaker 2: I'll say he's unsafe.
Speaker 1: I mean, coming into this year, this felt like the
Speaker 1: biggest boom er bus season in the NFL that they
Speaker 1: had to make the playoffs or else it was going
Speaker 1: to be a clean house situation with Sala and Joe Douglas,
Speaker 1: who's had a lot of time there and I think
Speaker 1: gets a little extra protected because he's such a nice
Speaker 1: guy that everyone loves, like in the media and around
Speaker 1: and everything, and it just hasn't had the results there.
Speaker 1: Especially there is something about that he was an offensive
Speaker 1: lineman and he came in talking about it's all about
Speaker 1: the offensive line with the Jets, and that's been a
Speaker 1: total failure since he's been there, been one of them.
Speaker 4: I also say this respectfully, like Robert Sala became a
Speaker 4: head coach for a reason. But you're also not going
Speaker 4: to sit there and say, yes, you should be autonomously
Speaker 4: choosing all of these different quarterbacks, like six different quarterbacks
Speaker 4: in New York, Like that's the GM. The GM is,
Speaker 4: you know. I'm seeing a lot of tweets that are
Speaker 4: being sort of attributing that the quarterback misfunction dysfunction and
Speaker 4: rotations and reshuffling, where it says Robert Salo went through
Speaker 4: six different quarterbacks in New York. I'm like Joe Douglass
Speaker 4: went through those quarterbacks too. I mean, this is this
Speaker 4: is a shared situation, which is why I'm saying it.
Speaker 1: Is interesting that is he drafted he drafted Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1: There's layers to this, the fact that sala is considering
Speaker 1: firing Nathaniel Hackett, who has that close of relationship with
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. It's just it's messy, but that's been the
Speaker 1: case for this organization for a while. They have one
Speaker 1: winning season since twenty ten. They have not made the
Speaker 1: playoffs since twenty ten. They have eight straight losing seasons.
Speaker 1: That is hard to do in an NFL where everything
Speaker 1: is set up for you to succeed. And yeah, it's
Speaker 1: hard not to think. Just like Eric Mangini on on
Speaker 1: Fox last week's say, and he thought it was going
Speaker 1: to be a big deal them playing in London where
Speaker 1: the owner was an ambassador and a lot of important
Speaker 1: people watching that game, and that that game would hold
Speaker 1: a little extra weight.
Speaker 2: And it turned out that way, and it does. It does.
Speaker 1: That does remind me like Woody Johnson didn't hire Robert Sala.
Speaker 1: That is always an important thing to remember, like who
Speaker 1: hired who. It happened to be at a time when
Speaker 1: he was no longer running the team. His brother, Christopher
Speaker 1: Johnson was running the team. So you can only presume
Speaker 1: that Woody Johnson will be picking the next full time coach.
Speaker 2: We'll see if it's a GM. I still think this
Speaker 2: team has a chance.
Speaker 4: I mean, Jeff Wilbrids, it's a good coach. I'll say
Speaker 4: that I watched him coach at the Senior Rowl this year.
Speaker 4: I was sort of shadowing a couple scouts for a
Speaker 4: project that I was working on for the athletic and
Speaker 4: got to see how he runs things, how he operates, really,
Speaker 4: how he connects with big.
Speaker 2: Hard knocks pop. I loved Defaulbrick hard knocks.
Speaker 3: He's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a I think he's a really solid coach.
Speaker 4: It's always hard when you're an interim and you and
Speaker 4: it's like the organization is going to make whatever decision
Speaker 4: it wants at the end of the day. Other than
Speaker 4: in a very rare case such as the Antonio Peers
Speaker 4: situation where the players really speak up, and so this
Speaker 4: is a trial run for him, This is an audition
Speaker 4: for him. He's a really solid coach, but we'll see
Speaker 4: if this has a long term and a.
Speaker 3: Former player too, so he'll get the respect on the players.
Speaker 1: Interim coaches are all about vibes and energy. You're not
Speaker 1: going to change everything. And it's like Dan Campbell, fun
Speaker 1: interim coach when he was in Miami.
Speaker 3: Raheem was too.
Speaker 2: Raheem great one.
Speaker 1: Joe Vitt was a good one way back in the day.
Speaker 1: Antonio Peers certainly no.
Speaker 4: Even before it starts with a beat, Masaia Bisacia bump,
Speaker 4: there got it.
Speaker 1: Chaka who now is with the Packers, And Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think this Jets team, if I had to guess where
Speaker 1: they finish, it's about where I thought they would finish
Speaker 1: to begin the season, which is about nine wins, eight
Speaker 1: to nine wins, and that's probably not going to be enough,
Speaker 1: but they could be in the mix. They win that
Speaker 1: Monday night game against the Bills and they are tied
Speaker 1: for first place. All right, let's go to the other
Speaker 1: big news in the AFC East Patriots named Drake May
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback if you happen to listen to my
Speaker 1: Monday Night recap with Bridget Connon. We kind of felt
Speaker 1: this one coming. She's from Massachusetts, I'm from Massachusets. We
Speaker 1: had a healthy debate back and forth. I said, enough
Speaker 1: about this. I'm glad it is happening.
Speaker 3: You guys are my favorite mass Thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm glad it's happening. I know it's a tough matchup
Speaker 1: this week. Everyone's so worried that the football player is
Speaker 1: going to have to play football. But I think he's
Speaker 1: going to be fine in the end, even if he
Speaker 1: has a completely terrible game like every game has been
Speaker 1: for the Jacoby Brisent.
Speaker 4: I just think it's one of the worst offensive lines
Speaker 4: in the NFL.
Speaker 3: That's the thing that I'm view.
Speaker 2: I would say the.
Speaker 4: Weres, Yeah, well, I mean there's like Cleveland for example. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but this is there's a line I think, like, yes,
Speaker 4: football players need to play football, but there is a
Speaker 4: line that you cannot afford to cross with a young quarterback.
Speaker 4: Since this is the Sam Darnold Podcast, we've seen it
Speaker 4: crossed with players who still are developing, still need to
Speaker 4: really have a clean environment around them in order to
Speaker 4: actually operate and do football things. I think that if
Speaker 4: you cross that line where playing football actually isn't playing football,
Speaker 4: it's merely surviving, that's where you start to run into problems.
Speaker 4: So if they can try to be.
Speaker 2: That's at least total issue to me, at least try.
Speaker 4: To build an environment around him that allows him to
Speaker 4: at least get cleaner reps, then that's great. Football players
Speaker 4: do need to play football, But again, there's a difference
Speaker 4: between playing football and getting meaningful reps and simply surviving.
Speaker 1: Like, when can you promise me they're gonna have some
Speaker 1: clean reps in Foxboro twenty twenty seven, Like, there's no guarantee.
Speaker 4: That it means why they were playing Jacobe Brissett.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, but that's from what I've seen and what
Speaker 1: I think they're Like, I agree, like Darnold was put
Speaker 1: in a bad situation, but I've just seen so many
Speaker 1: quarterbacks be put in the absolute worst situations and be
Speaker 1: fine the next year. You really think that Alex Smith,
Speaker 1: like Eli Manning, like some of the the worst situations
Speaker 1: in NFL history, and if they're gonna have a career, like,
Speaker 1: they'll still have a career, And he's probably in by
Speaker 1: all accounts he's a He's a better football player than
Speaker 1: Jacobe Brissett.
Speaker 5: Really, you have as a rookie, He's going to come
Speaker 5: in here behind this offensive line and an offense that
Speaker 5: is so bad at scoring points and can't get anything going,
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, this rookie with no reps
Speaker 5: is going to shine.
Speaker 2: No, no, I don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 4: But I think I wants him to feel pain and
Speaker 4: no better.
Speaker 1: But I think experience not the Patriots.
Speaker 4: But it's like, I think experience is good on too.
Speaker 2: I think experience is a good thing.
Speaker 4: For I agree with you. I am not young players like.
Speaker 1: You put out these fourth round like their fourth Like
Speaker 1: they've got rookies that have never played and don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on on the offensive line.
Speaker 2: Is it too early to put them out there? You
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like they have just as much responsibility.
Speaker 4: I think that comparing that very uniquely disastrous situation up
Speaker 4: front with other situations that have their own circumstances and
Speaker 4: variables is probably not the way to go here. But
Speaker 4: I think that again, I'm not disagreeing with you. He
Speaker 4: needs to play football. I am not disagreeing with you
Speaker 4: there I am simply saying there is a difference between
Speaker 4: takings as meaningful reps that build something that actually advanced
Speaker 4: the progress of a young quarterback who is developing, who
Speaker 4: will one day run like lead that organization, and simply
Speaker 4: surviving and simply developing bad habits because there is no
Speaker 4: chance you're going to get anything to do other than
Speaker 4: survive and protect yourself.
Speaker 3: Is Drake may more mobile than Jacoby Brissatt.
Speaker 2: I mean by a million factors?
Speaker 5: Yes, So then maybe that ends up helping helping him
Speaker 5: a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think part of it is they're giving him all
Speaker 1: these reps in practice, and this is just like little.
Speaker 4: He probably looks it looks great.
Speaker 1: The teammates are just kind of like, come on, bro,
Speaker 1: like come on, play way they got.
Speaker 4: It's a tough spot because you don't want to You
Speaker 4: also don't want to be the quarterback who's like, oh,
Speaker 4: they're shielding me, Like you can't you can't win win
Speaker 4: over the lockerer.
Speaker 1: Kobe's a good player, Like if he was with the
Speaker 1: Browns right now, they would have a winning record. Like
Speaker 1: him and Kevin Stefanski make beautiful magic like that, like
Speaker 1: he can play football.
Speaker 2: It is a brutal situation.
Speaker 3: So Drake May gets his first start against the Texans.
Speaker 2: That's going to be tough. Bless his heart, that's going
Speaker 2: to be tough.
Speaker 4: Blessed Jacoby Brisett's I do.
Speaker 1: Think, and I know they're not thinking this, but this
Speaker 1: is an entertainment product and no one wants to watch
Speaker 1: the Patriots. They're awful, like, and this gives people a
Speaker 1: reason to watch. It's not the reason they're making this decision,
Speaker 1: but I do think, like these guys are in it
Speaker 1: to make money and have like a product like that
Speaker 1: makes money, and like this team couldn't be less entertaining,
Speaker 1: and Drake May is a reason to care and like
Speaker 1: a reason to watch the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: I think that alone. Hey, that breaks the tie. Let's go.
Speaker 1: He'll be fine, all right, we are going to take
Speaker 1: a quick break on the NFL daily.
Speaker 2: I'm worried about him too, but it should be fun.
Speaker 4: To get the crap kicked out of it.
Speaker 2: Why would I want that? I think he's great, that's
Speaker 2: going to happen.
Speaker 1: I loved him as a prospect, so that's certainly coloring
Speaker 1: my thinking in the preseason and the little time we had.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's like a little scattershot, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna see some fun games.
Speaker 2: It is a one o'clock game, I believe on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Look looking forward to that, looking forward to our guys
Speaker 1: who rock segment, guys who rule, Maybe they rock.
Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily.
Speaker 1: It's a segment that's taken many different forms. It really
Speaker 1: has gestations.
Speaker 3: I've watched it grow up right in front of my eyes.
Speaker 1: I've got a suitcase packed in the newsroom. I'm headed.
Speaker 1: I've heard on an airplane a lot.
Speaker 3: Of stories about the suitcase.
Speaker 5: Greg, it's you know what people are talking about. The
Speaker 5: streets are talking here?
Speaker 3: What about media?
Speaker 5: And if you want to see that's next to a desk,
Speaker 5: So it's the size of a I guess a standard desk.
Speaker 4: It's a waist high desk.
Speaker 2: Yes, if people want to check.
Speaker 4: Out the standard height waist.
Speaker 1: Gigantic suitcase, why not take a gigantic suitcase. I was
Speaker 1: packing a normal suitcase and everything fit fine, and I
Speaker 1: was like, well, what if I want to buy a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff there for the family, for you guys.
Speaker 2: You know you know, I'm buying a big old suitcase
Speaker 2: to bring the stuff.
Speaker 4: My arm I will accept gifts.
Speaker 1: But yes, I am a small man, so having that
Speaker 1: thing next to me, it's like my big brother.
Speaker 4: My reaction when I want. When I saw him walk
Speaker 4: into the newsroom today, it just brought me joy.
Speaker 1: Now I'm annoyed. I am I'm ready for this segment.
Speaker 1: It started out as what was it? Weird guys who rule?
Speaker 3: Guys who rule? I don't even know who we were talking.
Speaker 2: About the you know then guys who rule?
Speaker 1: Guys who Thursday, your cousin is a weird guy who
Speaker 1: rules in the nicest wave pop. But this is more,
Speaker 1: this is simplified.
Speaker 4: I was also an I p A text, Yes, yes,
Speaker 4: from all the pablished, all of us mutual, I pas,
Speaker 4: this is.
Speaker 3: A great idea.
Speaker 1: I was not drinking an IPA. I was working that
Speaker 1: night with Daryon McCoy. I was I was making some
Speaker 1: podcast magic. But I'm excited about this, Colleen. Why don't
Speaker 1: you get us going?
Speaker 4: All? Right? Guys who guys who rule?
Speaker 3: The Harrison's from Minnesota.
Speaker 5: Harrison Phillips and Harrison Smith arriving to London. Wait until
Speaker 5: you see how they looked, looking like a peaky blinder's
Speaker 5: absolute vision and they had the dark three piece suit
Speaker 5: on the overcoats the Jeff Caps. If you check out
Speaker 5: the Vikings Instagram, it has an incredible song playing.
Speaker 3: It's raining. It's a whole vibe.
Speaker 5: Harrison Phillips has a pocket watch, so they looked very London.
Speaker 3: Shake here, but also kind of dangerous, which I like.
Speaker 5: So maybe they could like rule the city, you like,
Speaker 5: in some type of underworld that's going on in London.
Speaker 3: That's sort of what I've played out in my head.
Speaker 5: However, both Harrisons then went on to sack Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 5: in that game. Harrison Phillips he had said that Rogers,
Speaker 5: of all of the quarterbacks playing right now, is his favorite,
Speaker 5: absolute favorite to play against because he's one of the
Speaker 5: smartest out there.
Speaker 3: So I love that he ended up taking him down
Speaker 3: in London.
Speaker 5: Also, he honeymooned Harrison Phillips in Europe this past summer
Speaker 5: and said that he often got recognized, which I love
Speaker 5: for him. And it's also just like a show of
Speaker 5: how popular the NFL is everywhere, especially just as a
Speaker 5: defensive tackle he's getting.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine he would get recognized many places outside Minnesota,
Speaker 1: but vis travel, I think they were probably out there
Speaker 1: having that get.
Speaker 5: Recognized, Yeah, Harry ninety nine on Twitter, he is. But
Speaker 5: then Harrison Smith, Harry the hit Man. He also had
Speaker 5: a sack of Aaron Rodgers celebrate it with the Belt
Speaker 5: championship celebration that Dodgers double guess, the discount, double check.
Speaker 5: And then there were all of these fun things that
Speaker 5: I saw about him. How in the off season this
Speaker 5: past off season, when free agency was approaching, he kind
Speaker 5: of forgot that free agency was coming and he was like, oh,
Speaker 5: I should talk to my agent about this because he
Speaker 5: was working as a carpenter and a welder with his
Speaker 5: brother in law. Wow, he also fixes bicycles and builds furniture,
Speaker 5: and a couple of off seasons ago he bought a
Speaker 5: plot of land and talked about renting bulldozers, digging ditches
Speaker 5: and laying the wiring because that's the most fun thing
Speaker 5: to do in the off season. So Harrison Smith and
Speaker 5: Harrison Phillips the Killer Harry's I love them.
Speaker 1: I can't believe how much Harrison Phillips rules. I mean,
Speaker 1: listening to you talk about him for a while until
Speaker 1: we got into some of the the track, what was
Speaker 1: the thing at the very end that he was buying
Speaker 1: the plot of land.
Speaker 2: For the bulldozer. That's Alo the smith Okay, that's here.
Speaker 3: He also has his pilot's license.
Speaker 1: Like what they all kind of almost sounded like they
Speaker 1: were Colleen's Like, if you were an NFL player, you
Speaker 1: would maybe if you gee, if you were an NFL player,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't forget that free agency was coming up because
Speaker 1: you had some weird side job to try to.
Speaker 5: I felt like it was so relatable and we're seeing
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, what time of.
Speaker 2: Year is it again?
Speaker 3: It's coming up so soon.
Speaker 4: Summer of Harry.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also like that we talked about a Vikings player
Speaker 1: other than Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2: All right, you got you go another guy.
Speaker 4: I had one too, Vibes vibes alone Van Ginkel as
Speaker 4: a Viking. But oh, I want to get to guys
Speaker 4: to rule. I want to do get to a safety cluster.
Speaker 4: First cluster of three safeties who I think totally rule.
Speaker 4: Jakwan Brisker, Jesse Bates, Xavier McKinney. Big NFL wants you
Speaker 4: to devalue the safety position, but these three players are
Speaker 4: perfect representatives of the twenty twenty four defensive renaissance. They
Speaker 4: are physical enough they can roll down to blitz er
Speaker 4: defend the run. Although Xavier McKinney plays deep, they can
Speaker 4: play in the slot. They are fast enough to rob
Speaker 4: the field, and they're legitimately affecting games week after week.
Speaker 4: Jawan Brisker hope he and Tommy Trumbull are both do
Speaker 4: okay by the way, A sack of pressure, an interception,
Speaker 4: two pass breakups, one force fumble, and forty tackles. Jesse Bates,
Speaker 4: who Arthur Smith referred to him as when they were
Speaker 4: getting ready for the matchup as the Falcons. Jason Bourne
Speaker 4: said that the Steelers changed their entire offense to avoid
Speaker 4: the middle of the field just to take out baits
Speaker 4: sorry calling against the Eagles. Ice the game. He's got
Speaker 4: three pass breakups, a pressure, a hurry to force fumbles,
Speaker 4: an interception, thirty seven tackles, and Xavier McKinney has made
Speaker 4: history as the first player on a new team to
Speaker 4: have an interception in five consecutive games, and his DC
Speaker 4: Jeff Hafley called him the best safety in the league.
Speaker 4: These dudes are the new era of safeties and yet
Speaker 4: somehow very vintage in a way as well. These dudes
Speaker 4: freaking rule.
Speaker 1: They do, they do rule and the safety position rules.
Speaker 1: It's always ruled, and it's crazy to me to your point,
Speaker 1: how undervalued it is. You can get a pretty mediocre
Speaker 1: cornerback in free agency for more money than the top
Speaker 1: of these safety market gets. I mean, McKinney ended up
Speaker 1: getting paid pretty well, but when you compare it to
Speaker 1: other positions, it's really not that much.
Speaker 2: And I think you said it very well.
Speaker 1: They are showing that they are way more valuable, let's say,
Speaker 1: than like a slightly better than average corner I.
Speaker 4: Agree one hundred percent. And they're being asked to do
Speaker 4: more too. They're asked to play more positions. This is
Speaker 4: the true hybridization of the defensive backfield. It's happening there.
Speaker 4: You're watching more safeties play in the slot than ever before.
Speaker 4: You're watching sub packages feature multiple safeties versus relying on corners.
Speaker 4: And you have to because offenses are understanding that now
Speaker 4: they're getting bigger and more physical and they're trying to
Speaker 4: attack smaller defenses. Okay, well, enter guys like this who rule,
Speaker 4: and they're saying no, they can do a variety of
Speaker 4: different things, and they are actually the fact that they
Speaker 4: are legitimately affecting games in this way is significant because again,
Speaker 4: the position market wants you to think that they're just
Speaker 4: sort of back there doing something every year.
Speaker 1: I overrate them on the top one o one free agents.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't overrate them. I know they ruled the
Speaker 1: but relative to what they make on the open market,
Speaker 1: it's like, all, I have so many safeties near the top,
Speaker 1: and then they just sit out there on the market
Speaker 1: and people, oh, fine, we'll sign them for.
Speaker 2: Like eight million dollars. The running the defense pretty.
Speaker 4: Much, that's Oh, I like how you put that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, very well said.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know who doesn't rule is the concussion
Speaker 1: spotter at the Bears game last week in the protocol
Speaker 1: not to get serious hearing.
Speaker 2: A fun segment. What the heck? Greg?
Speaker 1: Sorry, but it's like, this is the guy who's had
Speaker 1: three different concussions now in his career, and you're not
Speaker 1: protecting the players from themselves. He had to report it
Speaker 1: the next day. That's a that's a bad job. And
Speaker 1: I feel like we're seeing that. Let's get to something
Speaker 1: more fun. Let's get to Brian Thomas junior. My god,
Speaker 1: you know what rules? Speed rules? No one ran faster
Speaker 1: on a football field then Brian Thomas junior on that
Speaker 1: long touchdown pass against the Colts, which unfortunately got a
Speaker 1: guy fired. The Colts cut their cornerback a day later
Speaker 1: after giving up this touchdown, and that's not nice. And
Speaker 1: it's nice to have great speed. We knew that about
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas. But the thing that really impresses me so
Speaker 1: far this season are his hands and his versatility.
Speaker 2: He is ready to go.
Speaker 1: He's scoring touchdowns, but I went back watched his targets
Speaker 1: and he's been really good on inbreakers. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's Chris Godwin, but people thought he was this one
Speaker 1: trick pony coming into the league. And he can run
Speaker 1: routes and because of that speed, which is maybe the
Speaker 1: best in the entire league, Like it's Tyreek Hill level speed,
Speaker 1: it's Rashid Shaheed level speed. Look when he breaks off
Speaker 1: his routes when he's doing some of these comeback routes
Speaker 1: that I watch, like he's opened by five yards because
Speaker 1: people are just so afraid and there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of contested catches on the go balls. He has more
Speaker 1: long receipt than any rookie in the league, almost in
Speaker 1: any player in the league. He's averaging eighteen yards per catch.
Speaker 1: I mean he's in the top like seven or eight
Speaker 1: of just yards in the league right now. Uh, he
Speaker 1: is absolutely awesome, and yes, does does it help that
Speaker 1: he's helped being to confirm my priors. Let's throw up
Speaker 1: the tweet I had, yeah, you know before the draft,
Speaker 1: when I wrote my only draft takes so far is
Speaker 1: that you can't take Brian Thomas Junior too high?
Speaker 4: Okay, fine, feeling good about.
Speaker 2: Feeling good because you know who else who rules? I
Speaker 2: roll with that. I'm sorry. I was not expecting.
Speaker 5: Security had to escorre right out of building today.
Speaker 1: This has been a lot of shows this week and
Speaker 1: not a lot of sleep and packing.
Speaker 4: Soup for lunch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love soup for lunch.
Speaker 1: I to hud War Nosol and it.
Speaker 4: Made you feel a little spicier than.
Speaker 2: It was really spicy, and I love spicy food. No,
Speaker 2: it was great. I just it was.
Speaker 1: It was a lot, and I liked it. I just
Speaker 1: didn't expect such an intense lunch. But I applaud the
Speaker 1: huddle that was before this for going big.
Speaker 4: Yes, intense intense show.
Speaker 6: You know it was.
Speaker 1: I was I was sweating that aggressive that pazzole was
Speaker 1: the Brian Thomas Junior of the huddle's menu options like
Speaker 1: big and bold and coming right out of the gate
Speaker 1: as one of the best in the league.
Speaker 2: And you got to recognize.
Speaker 3: And you're getting on a plane right after this. I
Speaker 3: hope you're okay?
Speaker 4: Is that like a bad We talked about digestive food.
Speaker 2: I was like, she thought soup would be good. Why
Speaker 2: am I going over this with you guys? All right?
Speaker 2: Give me another guy who rules, okay.
Speaker 5: I we saw him last night on the field, and
Speaker 5: he is not one of the players. He is one
Speaker 5: of my absolute favorite figures in the entire NFL.
Speaker 3: And no it is not Big Red. It is Steve Spagnolo.
Speaker 3: I love Spags so much.
Speaker 5: We know what he's been able to do with this
Speaker 5: defense and how for so much years it was the
Speaker 5: offense that was powering the Kansas City Chiefs, and then
Speaker 5: at some point last year actually kind of from the
Speaker 5: beginning of the season, the defense quietly started being the
Speaker 5: engine of this team. And Steve Spagnolo, he is just
Speaker 5: such an interesting person. He got married at the Vatican,
Speaker 5: which is just like a really random fun fact. His wife,
Speaker 5: Maria makes the most incredible Italian meatballs you've ever had
Speaker 5: in your life. And Chris Jones frequently will request the
Speaker 5: meatballs before big games, so she will make Chris Jones
Speaker 5: some homemade meatballs and then he goes out and balls
Speaker 5: out for Steve Spagnolo's defense. So he's just one of
Speaker 5: the nicest guys in the world, and he's so talented.
Speaker 5: I love to see his defenses thrive.
Speaker 4: I love when he goes and tries to call timeouts. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so he can't because he's not the head coach, but
Speaker 4: he's like transported to another time and a simpler time perhaps,
Speaker 4: or he could actually be the one to call the time.
Speaker 3: He needs a shot. He needs a shot as a
Speaker 3: head coach again.
Speaker 2: Does he though he does because he was not well, No,
Speaker 2: he wasn't.
Speaker 1: And there are people in the in the RAMS building
Speaker 1: at the time that would agree with you that that
Speaker 1: he could have been a really good head coach. And
Speaker 1: that was a brutal situation in Saint Louis for a
Speaker 1: variety of reasons. They were personnel being part of it,
Speaker 1: and yes, that hanging over them being another. But I
Speaker 1: would push back and say when they showed those Super
Speaker 1: Bowl wins he had last night on the Monday night
Speaker 1: football yeah, broadcast. I was just thinking, like, wouldn't you
Speaker 1: rather have Steve Spagnolo's career than virtually any head coach
Speaker 1: of the last like twenty five years? Like isn't it
Speaker 1: a good thing to be happy with what you do?
Speaker 1: Maybe have like slightly less stress than that the headman does,
Speaker 1: more job security because he's so good at what he does,
Speaker 1: working for a great man and Andy Reid that he
Speaker 1: loves with great players in a great situation, Like isn't
Speaker 1: that better than basically any almost any head coach resume
Speaker 1: and just life that you could come up with over
Speaker 1: the last like fifteen years.
Speaker 2: He's He's done it.
Speaker 5: I know I've talked about this on the show before,
Speaker 5: but it was just such a moment after the Super
Speaker 5: Bowl when I grabbed him and the confetti was still falling,
Speaker 5: and he had tears in his eyes, and he was
Speaker 5: just like this defense is it. We're never all going
Speaker 5: to be together again. And he just came from such
Speaker 5: a like it almost felt like a dad place and
Speaker 5: these were his kids and he was so happy and
Speaker 5: so proud, but so it was so bittersweet for him,
Speaker 5: and he just I mean losing lagarious need. He wasn't sure,
Speaker 5: obviously about Chris Jones, and you know how important Chris
Speaker 5: Jones is to that defense, but just those personal ties,
Speaker 5: it just makes me like him so much more because
Speaker 5: the game means so much to him and you can
Speaker 5: see those relationships how they are.
Speaker 2: In his life.
Speaker 4: I do doubt that he'll get interviews, but I would posit.
Speaker 4: I would posit that he I think is wise enough
Speaker 4: now to know the difference between jumping into a terrible job,
Speaker 4: which we talked about. I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 4: them that can exist in specific, few in particular, and
Speaker 4: jumping into a bad one versus you know, accepting and
Speaker 4: really understanding the value of your own situation. I just
Speaker 4: think he's he's you know, I don't want to see
Speaker 4: call him old, but he's wise enough. He's old enough,
Speaker 4: experienced enough to understand the difference between the two things
Speaker 4: because of all the experiences he's had. I also love
Speaker 4: that he reminds me of like someone who could be
Speaker 4: running a surf shop and Ventura, Yes, you know, like
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 3: But they have the shorehouse down at the Jersey Shore.
Speaker 4: Okay, so that's like there's something beachy there going on. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's something paddle board situation.
Speaker 1: I love that, and they're getting better every week too. Defensively,
Speaker 1: they're sort of the opposite of the Jets. They've had
Speaker 1: the second toughest schedule for defenses, and so that's why
Speaker 1: some of their numbers aren't like amazing. But now you
Speaker 1: watch in a game against like a Saints team, which
Speaker 1: isn't you know, quite as good, and they they dominate,
Speaker 1: but they've had to play Baltimore, They've had to play Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: These teams always get better as you go. And you're right,
Speaker 1: You're kind of like if I had a Colleen Doll
Speaker 1: and I and you you like pulled, you know, the
Speaker 1: string at the back to mak or talk like Colt
Speaker 1: stuff would come out and Steve Spagnolo stuff would come out.
Speaker 1: There's always like every couple of months swinging in a
Speaker 1: nice little Steve Stagnolo bag.
Speaker 2: Season.
Speaker 3: It's starting early this year.
Speaker 2: I absolutely love it. All right, give us uh.
Speaker 4: Okay i pat certain rules, rules, rules, rules rules.
Speaker 3: That's a good one.
Speaker 4: Two interceptions against the Raiders, including one hundred yard pick six,
Speaker 4: during which he reached a top speed of twenty point
Speaker 4: nine to two miles per hour according to next Gen Stats.
Speaker 4: Four targets across forty coverage snaps, so highly productive on
Speaker 4: the targets that he was given. I guess so he
Speaker 4: has shadowed Mike Evans, dk met CAF, Garrett Wilson, George
Speaker 4: Pickens and collectively allowed against those guys eight catch for
Speaker 4: eighty five yards and then just two more receptions this
Speaker 4: last weekend craze. He's not actually been targeted much because
Speaker 4: why would you target him, but it's when he is.
Speaker 4: It's a fifty two point seven passer rating. And guys,
Speaker 4: this rules the most. Next Gen Stats always does these
Speaker 4: matchup boxes on their website and they always go, you know,
Speaker 4: Pat certain versus X receiver, Pats certain versus X receiver,
Speaker 4: and from the Raiders game, it literally just says Pat
Speaker 4: certain versus Raiders offense. This guy freaking rules.
Speaker 2: He absolutely does. And I do like that more than
Speaker 2: other positions.
Speaker 1: It does feel like one cornerback always has the belt,
Speaker 1: you know that more than other And maybe it's because
Speaker 1: they like to talk it up and it's the bravado
Speaker 1: of the position and you're just out there on an
Speaker 1: island and there's always like one quarterback who has it
Speaker 1: cornerback and right now it's it's certain.
Speaker 4: I want him to does he have a cool nickname?
Speaker 4: I want people to know. I'm not sure he's at
Speaker 4: that status like lockdown lockdown status to where I think
Speaker 4: he deserves.
Speaker 1: There's so few players in the game that even get
Speaker 1: a chance to that, Like Sauce Gardner could do that,
Speaker 1: but they don't use him that way.
Speaker 2: They well, I'm.
Speaker 5: Certain that of certain bad. Yeah, it's fine, that's fine,
Speaker 5: So you need to start somewhat.
Speaker 1: That's fine, all right, you know who's not fine having
Speaker 1: a trouble here. I'm not going to go under the radar.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with c J. Stroud just because
Speaker 1: there are few players in the NFL that I would
Speaker 1: rather watch or hang out with, Like he might be
Speaker 1: number one at the apex of just like, hey, if
Speaker 1: you could just get a beer with a player c J. Stroud,
Speaker 1: he just seems like an awesome guy. But also, if
Speaker 1: there's one player I could choose to watch play the
Speaker 1: quarterback position, and I think if I was starting a
Speaker 1: team and just one quarterback I could have. I know
Speaker 1: there's a lot of great ones, it's c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud.
Speaker 1: I mean some of the plays that he made in
Speaker 1: this Bills game and yeah, yeah, the two turnovers and
Speaker 1: if you're watching it on YouTube, you can you can
Speaker 1: see on the Kojis film just these throws into apps
Speaker 1: tight windows. He's the type of quarterback I love. Like
Speaker 1: to me, he sees the game so beautifully. He can
Speaker 1: make every certain throw that you want to make, whether
Speaker 1: it's touch, whether it's power.
Speaker 2: The accuracy is crazy. He knows when to go for it.
Speaker 1: He goes through his reads so fast, and I think
Speaker 1: right now he and Nico Collins are playing so well.
Speaker 1: It's totally covering up for a poor coaching job by
Speaker 1: this Texans offensive staff. Like they are sloppy, not just
Speaker 1: the penalties and the terrible run blocking, but even the
Speaker 1: passing game seems a little disjointed. And there's a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure in c J. Stroud's face and he just
Speaker 1: makes it work and he would never blame if anything.
Speaker 1: He is building everyone up around him. He seems like
Speaker 1: a true leader. He is my favorite player in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Gino's there too, but just like he
Speaker 1: is the dude c J.
Speaker 4: Stroud, Yeah, he rules. And you know what I like
Speaker 4: about him too, among many things, is that this is
Speaker 4: you knew that the defenses of the league. We're going
Speaker 4: to try to catch this offense this year. They were
Speaker 4: going to try to do different things to try to
Speaker 4: expose some of the weaknesses. Not having Joe Mixon also
Speaker 4: really has hurt them as well. But in terms of
Speaker 4: that lack of I guess cohesion that you're talking about,
Speaker 4: you knew that they were going to try to disrupt
Speaker 4: them in certain ways. But you have an elite problem solver, Yeah,
Speaker 4: in c J.
Speaker 3: Stroud.
Speaker 4: Not only do you have an elite tool if you're
Speaker 4: a coach, an elite tool with which to problem solve
Speaker 4: because c J. Stroud is that person and player. But
Speaker 4: he himself is doing that. He's not making he's not
Speaker 4: repeating mistakes. Really very rarely do you see him make
Speaker 4: the same mistake twice in one game. Let's let alone
Speaker 4: twice in one season. And that's other than the fact
Speaker 4: that he also he knows ball to the point where
Speaker 4: his quarterback and league takes are excellent, and I love
Speaker 4: that he like doubles down on them too, like he
Speaker 4: knows that he's right, and it kind of he kind
Speaker 4: of reminds me of you in a way. Greg knows
Speaker 4: that he's right and doubles down.
Speaker 2: Greg.
Speaker 4: My god, we build him up just to break him
Speaker 4: later in the show. That's you know, but yeah, he rolls.
Speaker 4: I'm with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: He gets better every single week, it almost seems like.
Speaker 5: And the only thing I'm worried about now is Nico
Speaker 5: Collins being hurt and how that kind of changes the
Speaker 5: offense with all of the things that he's already making
Speaker 5: up for.
Speaker 1: I think it would have been natural for him to
Speaker 1: take a little bit of a step back this year,
Speaker 1: which with defenses preparing, and I think that is sort
Speaker 1: of happening opposite him. But he is just too good
Speaker 1: and too smart to let it happen to him individually.
Speaker 1: Problem solver is a great, great way to put it.
Speaker 1: Let's do a speed round before we go, so we'll
Speaker 1: just be quick on the rapid fire.
Speaker 2: Go for it.
Speaker 3: This is super quick. I will let you guys listen
Speaker 3: first to who my guy is that rules.
Speaker 7: Here we go shucking down and gold Homes in the
Speaker 7: gun the two in New Orleans, p Ryan in motion,
Speaker 7: there's a shotguns, no, the fake run off, the quick forth,
Speaker 7: the goal wanders to fin It's in or something on
Speaker 7: the play by Saunders. He runs the big name the
Speaker 7: ten he'arsold line twenty on the near side line thirty
Speaker 7: kind of blocking from behind, the former chief is taken
Speaker 7: down by sad Man. Got it on the look of
Speaker 7: shit at the goal line on a pass intended for
Speaker 7: Smith Schuster.
Speaker 2: A thick pick.
Speaker 3: That's the part that I love the pick.
Speaker 5: I mean, Kevin Harlan is my all time favorite broadcaster.
Speaker 3: He comes up with these things right on the spot.
Speaker 5: I mean, there are some of the most epic games
Speaker 5: that I've listened to him call the black Cat that
Speaker 5: came out the guest game.
Speaker 3: I'll never forget that.
Speaker 4: I love.
Speaker 5: When I leave here on Monday nights, after I finished
Speaker 5: the pregame show with Mooch, I always put on Westwood
Speaker 5: One and I listened to Kevin Harlan and Kurt Warner
Speaker 5: on the call and it's my favorite. And I text
Speaker 5: Kurt throughout the whole thing, and it's just Kevin Harlan.
Speaker 5: His voice is incredible. He's on it all the time,
Speaker 5: and he's funny. He's low key funny, maybe high key funny.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: I mean, as he's making that call, he is thinking
Speaker 1: in his head, thick pick, I have this in it
Speaker 1: at the very end, and he's such a good broadcaster.
Speaker 1: No fault of Ross Tucker there, who's filling in for
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, because.
Speaker 4: I recognize Ross did a good job of letting him
Speaker 4: take the.
Speaker 1: Lead there, absolutely, but Ross did kind of come in
Speaker 1: and stepped on the thick pick. So Kevin Harlan knows,
Speaker 1: I need to say it again to make sure everyone
Speaker 1: hears it. What a great call.
Speaker 4: I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: Okay, I think that Tory Taylor the Bears, Oh yeah, rules, rules, rolls,
Speaker 4: rolls rules. He is a twenty seven year old rookie
Speaker 4: in Auzie who didn't start playing football until twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: William is a football player.
Speaker 4: Famously, Williams famously texted him when he was drafted in
Speaker 4: the fourth round that they wouldn't be punting much. Plot twist.
Speaker 4: The Bears punted more through the first three three four
Speaker 4: games than any other team in the league. But he's
Speaker 4: single footedly ices teams by flipping field position. He iced
Speaker 4: the Rams game his four punts that day. Four of
Speaker 4: his punts that day were inside the ten, including the
Speaker 4: game ceiling one that landed at the eight. Jalen Johnson
Speaker 4: said I haven't been that pumped up for a punt
Speaker 4: in a long time.
Speaker 2: Ah, I love it.
Speaker 4: Tory Taylor rules.
Speaker 1: I love his attitude. I heard him say, I want
Speaker 1: to go out there and dominate the game when I
Speaker 1: have the ball. I get to have the ball like
Speaker 1: five to eight times a game. I want to dominate.
Speaker 1: You just don't hear punch your I absolutely love that.
Speaker 1: My last guy who rules is Brock Bowers. This guy's
Speaker 1: better than I think we expected coming into the NFL.
Speaker 1: That touchdown that he had his first career touchdown, that
Speaker 1: is one of the best first career touchdowns of all
Speaker 1: time to moss a guy like that and then race
Speaker 1: in for the long score. He I think has as
Speaker 1: much burst as any tight end in the history of
Speaker 1: the league, even just those little short routes that they
Speaker 1: were throwing to him on Sunday's game, Minshew, and his
Speaker 1: ability to go from zero to five is special. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It is so much better than most wide receivers. I mean,
Speaker 1: and he's playing tight end. I really think he has
Speaker 1: a chance to be an All timer. And the more
Speaker 1: I watch him, I just think he's really exciting.
Speaker 2: He rules.
Speaker 4: I'd call him a power receiver or something like a
Speaker 4: hybrid because he's going to be playing receiver, but he
Speaker 4: has the power and the strength and the ability of
Speaker 4: a tight end and can obviously do some things in
Speaker 4: the blocking service as well. But like we got to
Speaker 4: think of a different name, yeah, that position, because he's
Speaker 4: going to be doing things that are not But he's
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 1: He's playing tight end. They're using him all over the
Speaker 1: place and stuff. He's doing the thing where he's messing
Speaker 1: up the app they posing formations, he's playing a little fullback.
Speaker 1: He's blocking some too. He would probably rule a little
Speaker 1: more if he just came home, you know, and just
Speaker 1: shaved that head. But he's going strong O wow.
Speaker 3: Personal attack.
Speaker 2: I mean, he knows it. He knows it. He's heard
Speaker 2: it a lot.
Speaker 3: Rock Bowers is incredible.
Speaker 5: They do need some type of subset though, in the
Speaker 5: tight end category for these incredible pass catchers. And Daniel
Speaker 5: Jeremiah talked about brock Bauers leading into the draft how
Speaker 5: great and talented he is and how he should be
Speaker 5: taken as high as he ended up going.
Speaker 1: And I think he's already right there with the best
Speaker 1: players at his position as a rookie, which is wild
Speaker 1: let's take one quick break. We're gonna wrap up with
Speaker 1: little t NF preview after break, forty nine Ers Seahawks.
Speaker 4: Guys have a rule.
Speaker 1: All right, It's time for TNF Preview presented by Amazon
Speaker 1: Prime Video talking forty nine Ers Seahawks. Interesting timing for
Speaker 1: this game on Thursday night. I'm gonna miss it. I'm
Speaker 1: at least gonna miss the TNF recap. I know that
Speaker 1: both teams, I think, are coming off of humbling losses,
Speaker 1: losses that make you question your team inside the building,
Speaker 1: that maybe we aren't as good as we thought we were.
Speaker 1: Now they're facing each other three and two SEAHWK two
Speaker 1: and three forty nine Ers. We could have a situation
Speaker 1: Jordan where there's not a team in the NFC West
Speaker 1: with a winning record after Week six, which is pretty
Speaker 1: surprising for what we thought was gonna be one of
Speaker 1: the best divisions in football.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it still could be down the stretch. Guys
Speaker 4: get healthy on a couple of these teams. But this
Speaker 4: is this is gonna be an interesting game, not just
Speaker 4: because the stakes feel high in terms of needing to
Speaker 4: get back on track a little bit, but you can
Speaker 4: see certain flaws that might not be fixable just by
Speaker 4: getting people healthy, getting people back in the roster. On
Speaker 4: both sides, forty nine ers defense looks a little suspect,
Speaker 4: more suspect than we thought it was gonna look. And
Speaker 4: then on the converse, the pressure, I mean, it's just awful.
Speaker 4: You could see it start to wear, it wear a
Speaker 4: little bit on Gino, who's having to complete over fifty
Speaker 4: five percent of his throws under two point five seconds
Speaker 4: or less. He's been playing out standing football, but how
Speaker 4: sustainable is this when the tackles are not holding up
Speaker 4: in a big way?
Speaker 1: Sunday was crazy. His time to throw is like two
Speaker 1: point three in that game. He's like Aaron Rodgers out there.
Speaker 1: They're both just getting rid of the ball so quickly.
Speaker 1: And but Gino's not doing it because like he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to get hit. In fact, he's running better than
Speaker 1: ever he had. He's one of the has one of
Speaker 1: the most rushing values in terms of EPA and QBR
Speaker 1: in the league.
Speaker 4: But he's doing it to try to make positive plays
Speaker 4: head right, because there's nothing else they can do because
Speaker 4: the pressure that the outsides, especially the interior, is given up.
Speaker 4: You know, some I think it's like thirty eight pressure
Speaker 4: or something like that. But the exterior is now, what
Speaker 4: really you know, at least you thought you know Charles
Speaker 4: Cross was going to hold up. But both of those
Speaker 4: tackles are really struggling right now.
Speaker 2: They are.
Speaker 5: And I mean to your point, Greg, these the losses
Speaker 5: that they're coming off of. I mean, I was so
Speaker 5: surprised that the Seahawks lost to the Giants and that
Speaker 5: the Giants looked as good as they did. So the
Speaker 5: Niners though, too, I mean, blowing that lead. Now they're
Speaker 5: zero to two in the NFC West, they're oh and
Speaker 5: three in the NFC. All of this is going to
Speaker 5: factor into a potential tiebreaker at the end of the season.
Speaker 5: So this game is so massive it's almost like who
Speaker 5: is more desperate And it shouldn't be this high of
Speaker 5: stakes this early in the season, but it actually is.
Speaker 5: And the Niners are having massive red zone issues without
Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey. They can't figure that out. Six red zone
Speaker 5: trips only one touchdown. They were the best in the
Speaker 5: league last year in red zone efficiency. So there's just
Speaker 5: a lot of issues on both teams that they need
Speaker 5: to figure out on a short week with a lot
Speaker 5: of injuries.
Speaker 4: And they can't even rely necessarily on their field goal
Speaker 4: unit at this point, even if they do struggle in
Speaker 4: the red zone because Jake Moody has got a high
Speaker 4: ankle sprain and they had to go sign matthew Wright
Speaker 4: because they were in sort of a sudden change who
Speaker 4: was kicking the ball for US situation in the last game.
Speaker 4: So even with the red zone, you can't be certain
Speaker 4: that they'll come away with points at all in that situation.
Speaker 1: Right, And the Seahawks probably look at the forty nine Ers,
Speaker 1: if they're being honest, and say, hey, actually, this is
Speaker 1: a team that we should be able to protect Gino
Speaker 1: Smith against. Yeah, they have Nick Bosa, but hopefully you know,
Speaker 1: Charles Cross can help there and you chip them when
Speaker 1: he's on the other side. But other than that, it's
Speaker 1: it's pretty thin in terms of the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: pass rush. And they had that one where you play
Speaker 1: the Patriots and everyone feels good about their pass rush
Speaker 1: after they play the Patriots.
Speaker 2: And then it's a comeback down to earth game.
Speaker 1: They're a little banged up there, but they also lost
Speaker 1: Yetur gross Matos, who is playing at defensive tackle. I
Speaker 1: didn't think they were as deep as they could have
Speaker 1: been to begin with, and then they've had injuries on
Speaker 1: top of that. So it's not the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: defense that you know that in theory you love. The
Speaker 1: Seahawks would love to run the ball. I think a
Speaker 1: little bit more and better. They are number one in
Speaker 1: the league the last month in terms of neutral like
Speaker 1: passing rate, which means on normal down and distance, they're
Speaker 1: just passing the ball all the time. You would like
Speaker 1: to see Kenneth Walker get involved, but yeah, partly because
Speaker 1: they don't trust their their run blocking that much. I
Speaker 1: came away from these two games a little stunned, Like
Speaker 1: if you just watched it on red Zone a little bit,
Speaker 1: or you saw how the forty nine Ers blew a lead,
Speaker 1: or it was the field goal block in Seattle and
Speaker 1: you think, okay, well that sort of things happened. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: the Giants could have won that game by twenty They
Speaker 1: dominated in both trenches. They were the better team by
Speaker 1: a good amount, and the Cardinals were similar. I think
Speaker 1: the Cardinals were a better team that they who had
Speaker 1: some bad luck on a return touchdown and they still
Speaker 1: found a way to win that they kind of got
Speaker 1: physically manhandled.
Speaker 2: You just don't normally see that with the Fortunes.
Speaker 5: The Giants ran all over the Seahawks in this game,
Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy five rushing yards, where at the
Speaker 5: Giants they were averaging about eighty five rushing yards per
Speaker 5: game coming into this. They also didn't have Devin Singletary,
Speaker 5: so it was Tyrone Tracy who had one hundred and
Speaker 5: twenty nine rushing yards on eighteen carries.
Speaker 3: Like he went off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if there's one coach who I know is going
Speaker 4: to just hunker down and run the ball at somebody,
Speaker 4: it's going to be Kyle Shanahan. Mike McDonald's had to
Speaker 4: stand up there at the lectern and talk about unsound
Speaker 4: technical work and fundamentals and gap accountability in the run
Speaker 4: game almost every single week. Now, this was a defense
Speaker 4: that was supposed to make that area one of its
Speaker 4: strong points.
Speaker 1: I look at their linebackers and it's a problem. They
Speaker 1: got cooked by Brian Davil. Brian Dabel came in and
Speaker 1: there and was like, Hey, you guys are on a
Speaker 1: short week. We've had a little extra time from Thursday
Speaker 1: night football, and he handed it to Mike McDonald. It
Speaker 1: kind of reminded me of the game to help get
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald this job. Mike McDonald versus the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers when it was Ravens forty nine Ers on Christmas Day.
Speaker 2: I can't forget it.
Speaker 1: Because I was here and that matchup is what partly
Speaker 1: got Mike McDonald this job. Can he be the Shanahan killer?
Speaker 1: Can he be the McVey killer? Like we'll see when
Speaker 1: he plays the Rams this year, But that to me
Speaker 1: is fascinating. He does not have the players at linebacker
Speaker 1: that he had when he was with Baltimore.
Speaker 2: No one really does.
Speaker 1: And or you know that the forty nine ers do,
Speaker 1: frankly with Fred Warner, and so he's having to adjust.
Speaker 1: And they were a big time problem in the running
Speaker 1: game and the passing game last week.
Speaker 4: The Seahawks rushing defense for the twenty twenty four season,
Speaker 4: they are allowing four point five yards per carry and
Speaker 4: five rushing touchdowns so far. And this is going to
Speaker 4: be a Kyle Shanahan forty nine Ers team. I don't
Speaker 4: think we'll have any problem bring down and running the ball.
Speaker 1: Mason's looks awesome. I mean he had that fumble last week,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he literally has more yards than any forty
Speaker 1: nine ers running back in history, and I remember.
Speaker 5: When that first game that he came in and I
Speaker 5: was doing the pregame show for it, we were like, Okay,
Speaker 5: well it's gonna be just another one.
Speaker 2: What should we pick it.
Speaker 1: I don't feel good about the Seahawks right now, but
Speaker 1: I will pick them because that's what I want to
Speaker 1: root for.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 3: They have their throwback uniforms too, though, fun nine.
Speaker 2: Those just need to become their unifor I love them.
Speaker 4: I'm going to pick the forty nine ers because Rock Purty,
Speaker 4: I think overall is playing really well. I think that
Speaker 4: perhaps you can consider last week more of an outlier
Speaker 4: game from him than how he has showed up across
Speaker 4: the season, inclusive to not having a lot of his
Speaker 4: skill players around him. So I do want to pick
Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers in this game. It is interesting
Speaker 4: you're hearing some reports out of there of he's feeling weird,
Speaker 4: just a little bit off, lots of moving parts. No, no,
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers building as a whole things feeling
Speaker 4: a little weird, just generally off in terms of there's
Speaker 4: just been a lot of moving parts around that building
Speaker 4: so far, missing players, adding players back, you know, some
Speaker 4: long term injuries. But I do think that Rock Party
Speaker 4: is going to play better this week.
Speaker 3: I am God, this is such a toss up this game.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the Niners right now, just because
Speaker 5: I'm not sure about the Seahawks injuries that they have
Speaker 5: Rik Woolen, U Chena Nuosu Byron Murphy. I mean, these
Speaker 5: are significant players that aren't playing right now, and I
Speaker 5: mean they didn't they put out the estimated practice report
Speaker 5: today and that would be a do not practice for
Speaker 5: them or didn't participate.
Speaker 3: So it's just that's going to be the determining factor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got Nuosubak, who was supposed to be their
Speaker 1: best pass rusher for less than a full game, and
Speaker 1: he is now going to injured reserve with a thigh injury,
Speaker 1: which was a new injury that it's good that you
Speaker 1: point that out. Talineo Hufanga is reportedly going to miss
Speaker 1: about a month or so with a risk injury, although
Speaker 1: his replacements looked really good. I thought Malik Mustafa has
Speaker 1: made some plays for them, so that's been a nice fine.
Speaker 1: That was this week's TNF preview, presented by Prime Video.
Speaker 1: Be sure to watch the San Francisco forty nine Ers
Speaker 1: take on the Seattle Seahawks this Thursday on Prime Video.
Speaker 2: We do have some news.
Speaker 1: Surprisingly at the end of this show, Derek Carr is
Speaker 1: expected to miss multiple weeks with the oblique injury that
Speaker 1: he suffered against the Chiefs. The Saints have two games
Speaker 1: in the next nine days. One of them is against
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, a big division game, and then the Sean
Speaker 1: Payton comes to New Orleans game, and they're not going
Speaker 1: to have Derek oh Car.
Speaker 3: That is a bummer.
Speaker 1: Really interested to see if they're going to start Jay
Speaker 1: Hayner or Spencer Rattley.
Speaker 4: Well, Mike Garafalo is saying that Spencer Rattler is a
Speaker 4: strong candidates and Derek Carr's absence and he site sources
Speaker 4: telling himself and Ian Rapaport that is awesome.
Speaker 2: That's good teamwork.
Speaker 1: Thank you Jordan for helping us out there, because I
Speaker 1: really loved what I saw out of Rattler in the preseason.
Speaker 1: He is not a normal fifth round pick. He is talented,
Speaker 1: he's fun, he is gonna he's gonna throw that ball around.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna go against the Bucks
Speaker 1: and Broncos. That is a tough assignment, but I think
Speaker 1: it'd be more interesting than Jake Hayner. And yeah, this
Speaker 1: Saints team, which we were so excited about after two weeks,
Speaker 1: is staring at two and five, and this is how
Speaker 1: you manage the season.
Speaker 2: You got to get one of those two games. You
Speaker 2: got to get the Sean Paton Bowl.
Speaker 1: How I'm looking forward to that TNF recap, also looking
Speaker 1: forward to this week's TNF recap.
Speaker 2: So it's that one.
Speaker 1: This game we just talked about that's gonna be covered
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