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Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining Kathy and I today. We're so

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be here.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Susan, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 2: Cat?

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Speaker 3: I gotta say I'm struggling again. Everyone who knows me

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Speaker 3: knows I've had two abouts of bronchitis. Now I'm fighting

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Speaker 3: what we lovingly refer to an austin as cedar fever.

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Speaker 3: I cannot cut a brake. I just I think I

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Speaker 3: need to move to Tahiti.

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Speaker 2: You want to go?

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Speaker 3: That's winter, Cat, Okay, but we are going pretty soon.

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Speaker 3: In a few weeks, we're gonna go play golf in Carmel.

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Speaker 3: I gotta tell you. I was talking with Guy from

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Speaker 3: Jones season last night. We've decided I'm his big sister.

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Speaker 3: You know, he calls me for advice. He's telling me

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Speaker 3: he's like a girl, Susan. He's asking me what I'm wearing.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, you know he's been taking lessons. Got

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Speaker 1: new that's guy.

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Speaker 2: Guy said to me, well, you know what are you wearing?

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Speaker 2: I said, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm figured out. You know, I've got you know, eighteen

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Speaker 3: million golf up. He goes, let me tell you and

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Speaker 3: he went through this whole thing. Guy, if you're listening,

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Speaker 3: I warned you I was gonna tell it. He was

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Speaker 3: talking about how his dad, his favorite player of golf

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Speaker 3: player was Gary Player, who is you know, if he's

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Speaker 2: But Gary players signature thing. He always dressed in black.

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Speaker 3: So in honor of Gary Player, Guy went out and

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Speaker 3: bought an entire no way, you need to hear this

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Speaker 3: entire new black outfit. He's telling me I got new

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Speaker 3: black shoes and black pants and black shirt. And I'm thinking,

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Speaker 3: and I said, guy, you're a girl. This is what

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Speaker 3: girls talk about. And he goes and I bought new clubs.

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Speaker 1: So Kathy, let me ask you something. Did you get

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Speaker 1: a new outfort for Karmel? No?

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Speaker 3: No, that's that's why I was laughing. I said, Guy,

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Speaker 3: you gotta be kidding me. And then and then we're

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Speaker 3: talking about golf handicaps, because remember on one of our

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Speaker 3: recent episodes, we had Keith and he and he was

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Speaker 3: saying he's.

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Speaker 2: Got like a seven or ten. I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: think good. I personally cannot count that love.

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Speaker 3: But he was talking about his hand and so I

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Speaker 3: told Guy that, and Guy starts panicking.

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Speaker 2: I said, guy, it doesn't matter. Have a couple of drinks.

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Speaker 3: It'll all be find He goes, I don't drink, I said,

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Speaker 3: perfect time to start.

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Speaker 1: It's all about playing the game.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, guy, if you're listening, can't wait to see.

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Speaker 1: You again't wait to play against you, guys.

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Speaker 3: Susan and I will. I told him I was hooking

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Speaker 3: up playing with Keith because I needed that low handicapped

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Speaker 2: He was dying.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, today it will be fun.

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Speaker 2: It will be It's gonna be great fun.

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Speaker 3: But today while I'm sniffling, we're going to answer some

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Speaker 3: more of your fan questions.

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Speaker 2: And guys, you know the drill.

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Speaker 3: But if you don't one more time, make sure you're

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Speaker 3: submitting them to Bachelor Nation slash Golden Hour. Just write

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Speaker 3: us in your comments, your thoughts. Susan and I not

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Speaker 3: only like to answer the bond air seriously, don't we

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Speaker 1: And you remember then when someone else asked some kind

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Speaker 1: of a question and you refer back it's crazy. But

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Speaker 1: please send us everything you're questioned, your updates, even something

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Speaker 1: that we talked about and you did already and you

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Speaker 1: finished it. Whether you used our advice or not, let

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Speaker 1: us know and remember you can also dm us on

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Speaker 1: Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. Okay, time to get into

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Speaker 1: the episode. Let's start Kathy with the question.

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Speaker 2: Of all right, Susan, is it here we go? It's

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Speaker 2: not moral quandary. I just want an answer.

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Speaker 1: Thank you lord.

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Speaker 3: Is it healthy to be any amount of jealous in

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Speaker 3: a relationship? And oh, I'm so glad you're answering this first.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, so I think I know in my brain

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Speaker 1: that you shouldn't be list but a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know where I'm going. Tell me what that

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Speaker 2: means to find jealous?

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Speaker 1: To me, it would mean like you really care, like

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Speaker 1: you know you care. I hate the word jealous, like

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Speaker 3: Is that what you mean by jealous I'm just to me,

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Speaker 3: jealousy means it's symptomatic in my mind of not trust.

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Speaker 2: Yes, for me, it is.

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Speaker 3: And it's you know, if a guy is asking me, well,

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Speaker 3: who are you on the phone with? Or why can't

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Speaker 3: I come over tonight? Or you know, what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Why can't you take my phone call? That's jealousy and

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Speaker 3: that means a lack of trust. So yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I know to answer the question, though it

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Speaker 1: is not healthy.

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Speaker 2: I agree, it's going to be a great day. We're

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Speaker 2: agreen right off the bat. Yeah, we're agreed.

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Speaker 1: We agreed, said green. I'm like, what's green?

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's just my voice because I can't talk all

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Speaker 3: the exceed or fever my thrower. But no, I think

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Speaker 3: I think that you're right, and I don't. I don't

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Speaker 3: like jealousy. I think it's not a good look on

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Speaker 1: I don't even like the word jealous Sometimes you can

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Speaker 1: be envious of someone or something, you know what I mean, Like.

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Speaker 2: But that's you know what, that's fun. You say that.

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Speaker 3: People confuse the meaning of the not to be an

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Speaker 3: English teacher your hair. But jealousy, as you just pointed out,

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Speaker 3: is not envy. I don't think either one are particularly attractive.

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Speaker 3: But all right, all right, so we're gonna move on.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 3: We've settled that question of the day. We're gonna get

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Speaker 3: going with our fan questions. So let's get into them.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna go ahead and read the first one

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Speaker 3: and we'll see it's from anonymous, And just to remind everyone,

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Speaker 3: if you're uncomfortable using your name, please write us anyway.

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Speaker 3: You can just say an listen, we will still answer

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Speaker 3: your question. Okay, here we go. Kathy and Susan help

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Speaker 3: me please. I'm freaking out right now. My boyfriend and

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Speaker 3: I have been together for six months and we just

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Speaker 3: found out our parents went on a first date. They

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Speaker 3: saying that after they met, due to us dating quote,

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to think it's more than just one date,

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Speaker 3: but according to them, it was just the one.

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Speaker 2: Is this totally weird and ancestual? Or should we support them?

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Speaker 3: I really really like my boyfriend, but this is just

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Speaker 3: so strange. He and I haven't talked about it yet

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Speaker 2: Oh so goodness, I think.

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Speaker 1: This is awesome. So do why think you met? You

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Speaker 1: let two people meet each other organically, which is everything

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Speaker 1: we always do. Exactly what's wrong with it? Stop freaking

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Speaker 3: Me I want to say to everyone's it's only ancestual, anonymous.

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Speaker 3: If your mother is sleeping with your brother or you,

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Speaker 3: that is what incest is.

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Speaker 2: If she is dating your boyfriend's father. That's called a date.

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Speaker 1: How fun would that be when they're getting together? Though

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to do two different visits, you can

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Speaker 2: It is not incestual.

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Speaker 3: You may feel it's weird, but you know what, Anonymous,

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Speaker 3: I would encourage you to think about. I don't know

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Speaker 1: I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it is. Try to celebrate love, try to celebrate dating.

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Speaker 3: Try to celebrate the fact that we're all looking for

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Speaker 3: someone to care about and love. And if this is,

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Speaker 3: as Susan said, how they've organically met, try to try

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Speaker 3: to accept it. It may feel a little weird at first,

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Speaker 3: but you know, focus.

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Speaker 1: On your boyfriend friend and you never mind about them.

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Speaker 1: Let them do them, you know. I think it's wonderful.

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Speaker 1: But thank you so much for let us that's what

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Speaker 2: I love that. I know we've never had a question

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Speaker 2: like that, Anonymous.

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Speaker 3: Let us know what happens, and as I always plug

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Speaker 3: for Susan, if they decide to get married.

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Speaker 2: Susan is a wedding officiant. So you give her a

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Speaker 2: call or you or you honor?

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks again for writing any good luck and

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Speaker 1: just try to accept. Like Kathy said, all right. Question

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Speaker 1: number two is from Erin. Hey, ladies, I need your

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Speaker 1: help because I'm concerned I'm being harsh. The other day,

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Speaker 1: her Mama as her grandma name. That's what I want

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Speaker 1: them to call me as I'm their actual mom. She

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Speaker 1: I didn't know how to react. Oh god, so I

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Speaker 1: immediately say yes with excitement. But she's also been talking

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Speaker 2: Can I take the first crack at this show?

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Speaker 1: Sure you can?

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Speaker 2: She is a synonymously look back, it's weird. It's Aaron.

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Speaker 3: Let me say to you, Erin, these are your children

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Speaker 3: When I have two grandchildren and Susan has several. I

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Speaker 3: don't know about you, Susan but when I had, when

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Speaker 3: asked me what my grandmother name? What I wanted to

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Speaker 3: be called. I said I wanted to be called Kiki.

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Speaker 3: And they looked at me and they said Kiki. That

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Speaker 3: was my nickname as a child. And they said, you

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Speaker 3: don't want to be grandma. I said no, and I

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Speaker 3: don't want to be granny. And I said, if it's

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Speaker 3: ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: So how do you feel about mama?

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Speaker 3: I think it is up to Aaron to say, mom, mama, mama.

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Speaker 2: You know what I would say, mama. This mama isn't

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Speaker 2: comfortable with calling you mama. Kids are confused easily. We're

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Speaker 2: not going there. Literally, Aaron just said, or no, I don't.

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Speaker 1: That's a mom.

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Speaker 2: No, that's a mom's name. I'm their mom. You can

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Speaker 2: be grandma, you can be Kiki, you can be me, me,

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Speaker 2: you can be Gigi, you can be any other name

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Speaker 2: you want, but you cannot be mama. Do you agree

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Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 1: Say? I certainly do. Mama is a mommy's name, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know why your mother's thinking this way, But.

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Speaker 3: She said, is it weird? I think it is weird.

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Speaker 3: Very mother wants to be called mama. I did, so

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Speaker 3: don't don't allow it, Aaron. She'll get over it. Grandma

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Speaker 3: Granny will be just fine.

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Speaker 2: When you're four year old and one year old start

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Speaker 2: calling her whatever the name is.

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Speaker 1: Me to call your mother. I could do that, and

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Speaker 2: When Susan tells her for the way it's going to be,

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Speaker 1: You're getting all the anonymous.

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Speaker 1: What can I just tell you? My husband and I

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I would have the conversation Anonymous. I

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Speaker 3: It's about STDs, it's about it's about respect, it's about love,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. There's so much more explain. The

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Speaker 1: But boys are the worst because they're like, seriously, mom, Mom,

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding Anonymous conversation. Also, she asked, how do I

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Speaker 3: I have a better idea, Susan Anonymous. Play uh, play

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that, all right, kat let us know.

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Speaker 3: Wait Anonymous, just let us know how it goes. And

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Speaker 2: Daddy.

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Speaker 1: It's game time. It's called Red Flagger Red Rose.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, oh wait, hey, you're going to win this

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Speaker 2: Well you don't get many more than I do either,

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Speaker 1: So today we're going to be playing Red Flag or

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's funny that that question came up

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm misunderstanding.

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Speaker 3: A red flag to me means I'm sorry, I give

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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, I would give him. I'm sorry, I would

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Speaker 1: Wait, datty, I want to open a business and show

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Speaker 1: Contact us if we get enough of youle do a

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Speaker 2: All right. Uh, they keep dming you on the platform.

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Speaker 1: Red flag. Yeah, they call themselves a MoMA boy in

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm that guy doesn't get a flag or a rose,

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Speaker 1: He should just give it up. That's a red flag

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, they like you, swipe on you first, but

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Speaker 1: Well, they swipe because they like the picture, and I

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Speaker 2: I mean, oh, I think a lot of guys and

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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't give that a red flag.

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Speaker 2: No, I'd give it a red rose. Oh he thought

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, they match with you on every dating app,

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Speaker 2: Red flag. Yeah, God, Susan, what did we have our weedies?

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Speaker 2: What the hell we're green? On everything. Okay, they have

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Speaker 1: Red flag, red red, red flash.

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Speaker 3: And wait, can I just wait? Can I just say?

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Speaker 3: Let me just say. I am from Boston. You know

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Speaker 1: hear the rest of it. With an animal or fish

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Speaker 1: they hunted, I don't think there unless you're into that

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Speaker 1: of course.

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Speaker 3: Okay, look at me, Look at me, repeat with me,

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Speaker 3: red flag.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: As your first messaging, they asked, what you think the

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Speaker 1: reason is that you haven't found someone yet? Oh god,

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Speaker 1: they asked that all the time.

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Speaker 2: They do. You know, I don't think I think you do?

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Speaker 1: Oh I do you did? I'll tell you they're curious.

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Speaker 3: I think the question the prompt here says, as your

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Speaker 3: first messaging, I think that's a conversation you and I

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Speaker 3: have talked about.

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Speaker 2: You know, when is it appropriate to talk about this,

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Speaker 2: that or the other.

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Speaker 3: That's a conversation for later down the road, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: So to me a guy that's a pushy guy, and

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Speaker 3: what you know. I don't know if we have time here,

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Speaker 3: but I'm just going to quickly tell you I met

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Speaker 3: a guy. He actually reached out to me on Facebook

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Speaker 3: because we have mutual friends. And he jumped in, Susan

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Speaker 3: already knows this, all of this that I'm doing, but

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Speaker 3: I just want the audience here, he jumped in very quickly.

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Speaker 3: You know, how long has it been so you've had

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Speaker 3: a relationship.

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Speaker 2: He jumped in.

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Speaker 1: Twenty questions.

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Speaker 3: You had twenty question and twenty deep questions. And I

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Speaker 3: was telling my daughter Caitlyn, and you know, and Caitlyn said, Mom,

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Speaker 3: that is a red flat. She literally used that word,

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Speaker 3: and I said, tell me why. She said, it's too much,

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Speaker 3: too fast. Can I just tell you. After one date

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Speaker 3: with the guy and I and had several phone conversations,

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Speaker 3: she was absolutely right. This guy was running at warp speed.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's a red flag.

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Speaker 1: I didn't too much. First one we're going to disagree

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Speaker 1: on because I've been asked several times and I've even

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Speaker 1: asked men, not many, but I mean when you're looking

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Speaker 1: at a picture and reading a few words about somebody

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Speaker 1: and now you're chatting not on the phone. Just said,

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Speaker 1: what's a good looking guy like you? Why are you

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Speaker 1: still alone? And my answer was I'm really picky. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know what I want. You asked.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's a weird question when you're first messaging.

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Speaker 3: But you know we're agreed mostly today, so I'll take

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Speaker 3: it all right.

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Speaker 2: Their first DM is telling you that they're a personality guy.

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Speaker 1: I don't read anything wrong with that. They asked to

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Speaker 1: see you immediately upon matching.

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Speaker 3: I give that a rose to you, and you, well,

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Speaker 3: I'm a little different from you, Susan. We've talked about

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Speaker 3: this too. I would rather talk on the phone first

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Speaker 3: before meeting someone. I kind of want to get a

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Speaker 3: little vibe before I meet them. It can just be

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Speaker 3: one phone call. But and for those of you out

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Speaker 3: there who don't, and I've told Susan to get this,

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Speaker 3: you know, safety first. You don't want to give somebody

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Speaker 3: your I don't anyway my phone number. First off, I

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Speaker 3: give them my Google phone number. And those of you

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Speaker 3: who don't know what it is, look it up.

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Speaker 2: You can get a.

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Speaker 1: Google phone number.

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Speaker 2: Lines.

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Speaker 1: Huh you have two lines? You told me? Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: shared that with and that.

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Speaker 3: But the reason I give the guy the Google number

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Speaker 3: is it's not traceable. He cannot find out where I

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Speaker 3: live with a cell phone number. You would be amazed

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Speaker 3: what you can find it. So those of you are

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Speaker 3: on dating my PSA today is get a Google number.

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Speaker 2: You can't be traced. Okay, your trunk out?

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Speaker 1: How about the only message? They only message you at

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Speaker 1: odd hours of the evening eleven PM or later. Last

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Speaker 1: red red flat, Hell, dare.

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Speaker 2: You well, Susan? Would you answer it?

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Speaker 1: Hell? No?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean well, I have.

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Speaker 1: Two people that I was really curious or interested in

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Speaker 1: and it was a mistake. So yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't even know.

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Speaker 3: Well, first I turned my phone on silent when I

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Speaker 3: go to bed. The only thing phone time my phone

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Speaker 3: is ringing is if my kids call me, because I

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Speaker 3: have them on a special thing.

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Speaker 2: If they call me in the middle of that, my

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Speaker 2: phone rings. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Since then, we have had I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 3: We've had so much fun today, answering questions. We're agreeing

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Speaker 3: too much? What does this mean? Are we morphine into

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Speaker 3: each other.

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Speaker 1: This doesn't mean anything. Kath's way. Did we get to

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Speaker 1: a different game? You'ls thing?

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Speaker 2: But it was fun. I like that game. I'm really serious,

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 3: Don't you think we should do something about helping guys please?

534
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Speaker 1: So I don't know if enough men are actually listening.

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Speaker 1: But women out there, I know you have friends and

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Speaker 1: your friends have friends. Tell the guys about us. I'm serious,

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Speaker 1: and we could help them. We could tell them to

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Speaker 1: tune in or reach out.

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Speaker 3: And I was asking me about dating last night, and

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Speaker 3: you know, it's like, he goes, oh, you know you

541
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Speaker 3: have some good thoughts. I'm like, yeah, because I'm a

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Speaker 3: woman and I've been there. But you know, here's the

543
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Speaker 3: thing that I'm you know, i've been single. It's coming

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Speaker 3: up on I can't believe it almost six years since

545
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 3: my husband passed away. I'm realizing that things don't really

546
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Speaker 3: change that much in the dating world. You set it

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Speaker 3: yourself on another episode, We're all looking for someone to

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Speaker 3: love and to be loved.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of universal at this point, you know, it

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Speaker 2: just it looks a little different at our age.

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Speaker 1: But it's about the dating apps that we were talking

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Speaker 1: about today. I mean, at one point I was opposed

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Speaker 1: to ever going on them again. And then you sit

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Speaker 1: and you're by yourself for a while, and you'll go,

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Speaker 1: let's check it out, and then only to find the

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Speaker 1: same people on there. Why haven't they found anybody? You

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Speaker 1: get discouraged. But then again, it is the way of

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Speaker 1: the world.

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Speaker 2: Well, but I really is it? Well it isn't it isn't.

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Speaker 3: I mean I read something recently that said people they're

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Speaker 3: going back to more organic ways, you know, meeting and

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Speaker 3: clubs or or somebody introduces, Yeah, who is saying that

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Speaker 3: to when when we interviewed, was that Keith, I want

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Speaker 3: to say?

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Speaker 2: And he said he what was he?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he said most of his dates come from friends.

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Speaker 3: But you know what the problem for women is, it's

569
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Speaker 3: there's more single women than men.

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Speaker 1: There's more women in the world than men when you

571
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Speaker 1: think about it, so as we're growing older, and I

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Speaker 1: truly believe men kind of go first. So that makes it.

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Speaker 3: Even the odds or even And what's the other what

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Speaker 3: is the other fact that you know? It's always been

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Speaker 3: a hot button for me, but I've had to accept it.

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Speaker 3: Men usually are looking for younger women.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we should put our ages down, not

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Speaker 1: until you after you get to know somebody so they

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Speaker 1: know how.

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Speaker 2: Old are the dating apposus.

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Speaker 1: You have to putury now.

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Speaker 3: In fact, a friend said to me, I should lie,

583
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Speaker 3: but I'm not going to.

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Speaker 1: I know. Oh boy, you know, like I said, this

585
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: goes so fast, but I know it does. Anybody that's listening,

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Speaker 1: tell the men to reach out. We are not opposed

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Speaker 1: to helping them out and in the better profile better.

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Speaker 3: In the meantime, susan friends pick friends up. So I'm

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Speaker 3: going to be out the lookout for you. Okay, folks,

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Speaker 3: that doesn't For this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour,

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Speaker 3: we've had a blast. We hope we've helped you with

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Speaker 3: our questions. Thanks so much for tuning in.

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