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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did.

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Speaker 2: My name is.

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Speaker 3: Millie to Jericho, I'm Daniel Henderson.

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Speaker 1: And we are here again to talk about films again.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm great? How are you? I mean, considering?

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Speaker 2: How are you considering?

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Speaker 1: It's the holidays. I'm okay. I'm feeling okay about the holidays.

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Speaker 1: I realized yesterday that we have, at least I think

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Speaker 1: I have.

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Speaker 2: I think we both do.

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Speaker 1: But I have like a chunk of time off, like

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Speaker 1: completely off. And I am so excited by this in

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Speaker 1: a way that I don't think I've ever been excited

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Speaker 1: about time off ever before.

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Speaker 3: I am right there with you.

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Speaker 4: I currently have three jobs, all of them are off.

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Speaker 3: I have to do like we're gonna do our recording early.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have episodes, guys, don't worry about I want

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Speaker 4: to do a recording early. My TV writing job is

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Speaker 4: I'm off for two weeks, and the book I'm writing

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Speaker 4: i'll be turning in the first draft by December twenty first.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly don't understand how it is possible that

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Speaker 1: I feel busier and have been busier since Quarantine. I

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Speaker 1: think it's just because there's no breaks to the day

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Speaker 1: as much as there used to be. So I can't

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Speaker 1: even like, you know, go outside and like take a walk,

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Speaker 1: you know, with my coworkers.

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Speaker 2: To like blow off steam.

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Speaker 1: It's like really just like I'm just sitting in a

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Speaker 1: chair working forever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so now I'm like, oh my god, there's like

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Speaker 1: a week where I literally have to do none of

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Speaker 1: my jobs.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I like freaking out.

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Speaker 1: And of course, as you know, as we talked about

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Speaker 1: last week, I have so many episodes.

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Speaker 4: Of the Crown to we that's right, Oh, you're going

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Speaker 4: to be knee deep in the royal fame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I am very, very, very excited.

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Speaker 4: I felt like that's what quarantine was going to be like.

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Speaker 4: And then everyone's like, oh, no, you're still working and

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Speaker 4: you're still doing it, and I'm like.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's cool. I can still do that stuff.

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Speaker 4: But like, I like having the light, the delineation between

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Speaker 4: hours now that I have kind of an office job

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Speaker 4: because I know when to go to lunch instead of

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Speaker 4: just waking up and being like it's four o'clock, why

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Speaker 4: didn't I eat?

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Speaker 3: I have a headache? So like that, So next.

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Speaker 4: Week is going to be bad in that regard, like

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be sick, I'm sure because I'm just

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Speaker 4: gonna be waking up with headaches. But yeah, I'm so

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Speaker 4: excited to just have I like having time to myself.

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Speaker 4: I knit, I croche. I you know, I really enjoy

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Speaker 4: having time to myself and I watch I catch au

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Speaker 4: bottle all my shows. Because sometimes it's hard to watch

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Speaker 4: TV when you're writing TV. Well, for me, it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean that must be like it's out of how

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Speaker 1: I feel about movies, where I'm like, oh, I thought,

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Speaker 1: I think about and talk about movies all day. What

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Speaker 1: do I watch when I'm just like chilling? But I

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Speaker 1: typically watch a lot of TV.

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Speaker 2: So for you, what do you? What do you watch?

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Speaker 4: I've seen a lot and usually when I'm when I'm

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Speaker 4: on a show and I'm writing for TV, I tend

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Speaker 4: to watch things I've already watched and want to watch

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Speaker 4: again because it's it's also again talk to my therapist

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Speaker 4: a lot about this.

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Speaker 3: It's also like.

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Speaker 4: An anxiety thing. So if I'm watching something that I

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Speaker 4: I watch a lot of things I've already watched, but mostly,

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Speaker 4: as we discussed last week, I watch a lot of

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Speaker 4: British TV, and I watch a lot of British game shows.

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Speaker 4: I watch a lot of you know, kind of panel

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Speaker 4: looking for any kind of British comedy that you can

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Speaker 4: a minute. I'm going to recommend anything that Greg Davies

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Speaker 4: in the first season of that interestingly enough, But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I just I think he is so funny and so

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Speaker 4: and he's also very kind.

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Speaker 3: He's a very kind person.

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Speaker 4: But he his comedy is rooted around the insanity of

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Speaker 4: his family and how hard it is to be middle aged.

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Speaker 4: And those are just like the two major buttons I'm

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say I feel like I can relate

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Speaker 4: You will be able to relate. And it's just it's funny.

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Speaker 4: I mean, his family's nuts and his mom. When he

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Speaker 4: very funny. So if you really want to get into

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Speaker 4: Greg Davies, I would highly recommend that you look up

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Speaker 4: a clip called Milky Cow on YouTube right now from

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Speaker 4: the very wonderful show What I Lie to You. Absolute hilarious.

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Speaker 4: All of his appearances on What I Lie to You

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Speaker 4: are very funny. But there are a lot of UK

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Speaker 4: shows that I just really love, like people just do

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Speaker 4: nothing QI Travelman with Richard Awade, Big That quiz a

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Speaker 4: look for that if you can. There's a show on

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Speaker 4: Hulu that's called game Face stars Ruyschin Kannedy. She's hilarious.

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Speaker 4: And then Greg Davies also hosts a show called task Master,

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Speaker 4: which is a game show where five comedians are set

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Speaker 4: all of these different things to do and they get

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Speaker 4: scored and judged on them and it's hilarious and absurd

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Speaker 4: and just takes you right out of your head and

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Speaker 1: Furiously writing all of these things down, because that's an

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Speaker 1: amazing list, honestly, like maybe on the other ends of

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Speaker 1: the spectrum of verything that you've just talked about. So

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Speaker 1: like April and her husband Martin, like they were like

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Speaker 1: telling me about the show, Like the last time they

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Speaker 1: about this insane TV show that I had never heard

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Speaker 1: of before.

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Speaker 2: I think it's called Naked Attraction.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I was like, they showed me

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Speaker 1: some clips and this is a show that's coming on primetime,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming where it's basically like a person comes on,

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Speaker 1: three different people to date, and they only see their

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Speaker 1: naked bodies from like the neck down.

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Speaker 3: No faces.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is insane because the best part about

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Speaker 1: it is that these are like normal everyday people who

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Speaker 1: like some hot model, which is invariably what would happen

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Speaker 1: if it was an American show, Like they would take

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Speaker 1: ye old yeah exactly.

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Speaker 3: But you're absolutely right. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: We have a show here called Naked and Afraid that

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Speaker 4: is about going to It's one of my grandma's favorite shows.

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Speaker 4: That's how I know about it. And it's about dropping,

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Speaker 4: of course it is. She actually gets upset with me

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Speaker 4: if I interrupt her during something called Naked and Afraid Excel.

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Speaker 4: Apparently it's like an extended version of the regular show,

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Speaker 4: but they drop naked people in these really you know,

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Speaker 4: intense weather condition places and just they're like, all right,

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Speaker 4: you can survive here for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: And you win. And I'm like, all right.

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Speaker 4: I would call any show, any dating show where you

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Speaker 4: have to see my naked body in a box first,

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Speaker 4: Naked and Afraid, Like naked an attraction is a good name,

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Speaker 4: but Naked and Afraid is so much more app.

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Speaker 1: I would not I would be just afraid. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: even make it like they like. I'd show up to

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Speaker 1: the set, they would say, Okay, you have to, you know,

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Speaker 1: take your fourth cardigan off, and I'd be like, no,

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Speaker 1: I have I must.

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Speaker 3: I simply must leave.

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Speaker 2: I cannot be on a television show.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're like a never nude from Arrested developments. Oh

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Speaker 3: my god.

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Speaker 1: When I see those episodes, I'm like, I couldn't even

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Speaker 1: wear the booty shorts.

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Speaker 2: Forget it, Like, I can't.

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Speaker 3: Tell you the last time I wear shorts. Come on

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Speaker 3: in this economy, in this economy, about your shorts.

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Speaker 1: I realized that no one, most people did not grow

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Speaker 3: So right there you go.

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Speaker 4: I am a person who again, when I moved here,

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Speaker 4: summer already in my full full jeans and hoodie, which

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Speaker 4: is what I consider light wear, like a light layering.

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Speaker 4: Look my upper arms or ankles. Nothing from the upper

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Speaker 4: arms of the ankles. I've seen the sun since nineteen

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Speaker 4: ninety six.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: It's like when you watch like those episodes of Seinfeld

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Speaker 1: and you see a Lane Benis wearing like entire outfits

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Speaker 1: that are like skirts down to the floor, yes, longsleeve

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Speaker 1: it if it's winter time, and I'm like, that's how

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Speaker 1: I should dress.

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Speaker 2: I should dress like a Lane Beniz for sure.

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Speaker 4: Laura Ashley Flora length Laura Ashley only yes is what

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Speaker 4: we're going for in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: See, that's why the nineties was such our era, because

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Speaker 1: I was just like, oh yeah, you could definitely like

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Speaker 1: layer on the clothes, the flannels and the cardigans in

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Speaker 3: Oh, jeans under a dress, Yeah, do that. Put full

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Speaker 2: It's like, if you're wearing something cute, you have.

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Speaker 1: To wear a baggy flannel over it. It's just the

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Speaker 1: way it goes, and you can wear Come on, let's go.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be that lady in the nursing home

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Speaker 4: with black tights denim cut off booty shorts.

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Speaker 3: That's the only way you're gonna get me in booty shorts.

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Speaker 4: That there's a pair of opaque black tights beneath them,

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Speaker 4: Doc Martin's four t shirts on.

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Speaker 3: You're going to be.

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Speaker 1: Smelling your Elizabeth Arden sunflowers from down the hallway.

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Speaker 3: That is.

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Speaker 4: I hope the whole home that I'm in is filled

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Speaker 4: with that, just a bunch of derelict nineties weirdos in

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Speaker 4: like flatl No nurse will ever be able to take

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Speaker 4: my blood because she has you have to roll the

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Speaker 4: sleeves of like eight T shirts to get to me.

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Speaker 4: She's like, this is really ridiculous. You're fine, I.

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Speaker 1: Can't get a wet suit under all these clothes just

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Speaker 1: because because I'm.

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Speaker 2: Full of beans today.

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Speaker 4: Like, it's fine, I'll just point the shower hose directly

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Speaker 1: It requires you to know a lot about things that

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Speaker 3: But yeah, like I do.

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Speaker 4: You know what I love is those the crossword puzzles

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Speaker 3: I love them. But I also do so I do.

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Speaker 4: I usually do a crossword or a Sidoku or something

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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 4: I'm like you, like now, it's Winter of our Discontent

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Speaker 3: Like, I'll just memorize a whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's like people, you can't see my

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Speaker 1: I'm floored by this activity and what you just did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I just pick a play and just like all right,

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Speaker 4: Sometimes in the shower. We can try it. People will

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Speaker 2: Well shit, let's Lauren time this.

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Speaker 4: Bitch, Okay, we shut down. We just get zoom only

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Speaker 4: is on my screen. I'm not reading anything. I will

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Speaker 2: Yes, I can attest to maybe that being the case.

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Speaker 2: Although I can't see your hands. You're shifty, Okay, I'm sure.

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Speaker 4: If my eyes are closed and you can't see my hands,

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Speaker 4: what does that prove?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'll show them. I'll show them. Hang on, let me

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Speaker 4: get all right. I'll show my hands. I'll close my eyes.

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Speaker 4: You see my eyes. I'll take my glasses off so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get that cat to vouch that you're not I'm kidding, carrot.

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Speaker 3: Where are you all right? Ready?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: Three?

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Speaker 1: Two?

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Speaker 2: One? Go?

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Speaker 4: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachuets, Michigan, Minnesota, Missisippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada,

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Speaker 2: Do we shore? Are you the machines guy? What's going on?

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Speaker 4: I'm the new micro machines guy. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: All this could be a futile Thank you Lauren for

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Speaker 4: timing me. By the way, yes, all this could be

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Speaker 4: It might not stop anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's I guess the tragedy of life, right,

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Speaker 1: But you could also be like what are those people

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Speaker 1: Smuckers section where they said, Daniel Henderson is a vibrant

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Speaker 2: Ago or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You never know as much as we're here going like, oh,

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Speaker 3: That I'm gonna.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna hope for the best and hope that I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I mean that's just exhaustion. Though. That's COVID

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take it easy on myself.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be nice to myself, and I'm just going

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Speaker 2: Why are your brain games so classy? I don't like?

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Speaker 2: Why why don't I do club now? I'm like, I'm a.

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Speaker 1: Piece of shit, Like I don't like, I don't even

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. When you were doing that Shakespeare bit,

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Speaker 2: Does anybody understand that?

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Speaker 1: Like? How did are you just like doing it phonetically?

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Speaker 1: Do not understand what? Because I don't understand what Shakespeare says? Ever,

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Speaker 1: So I'm like I would be memorizing the words, but

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Speaker 4: Meant, you know what I mean? And Shakespeare is like that.

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Speaker 4: But this is the thing, it's not that they're classy.

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Speaker 4: It's that I'm a nerd. I really do enjoy Shakespeare.

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Speaker 4: So I like reading Shakespeare, and I have since I

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Speaker 4: take any opportunity I can to try to understand what

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Speaker 4: they come with companions and like book that you can read,

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Speaker 4: or now that we have the Internet, you can look

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Speaker 4: up what words mean, like in the in the Richard

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Speaker 4: really is just an old fashioned way to say lowered. Okay,

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Speaker 4: like clouds were lowering upon our house. So it's just

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Speaker 4: like anything. We're like, there's a word you understand and

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Speaker 4: But what I like about the richer the third thing,

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Speaker 4: and I'll tell you the whole thing just to explain it.

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Speaker 4: So the whole thing goes, now is the winter? Look

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Speaker 4: my hands up, let me.

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Speaker 3: I'm just assume I'm assumed the physician.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now is the winter of our discontent made glorious

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Speaker 4: the ocean buried. Now are our brows bound with victorious wreaths.

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Speaker 4: Our stern alarms changed to mary meetings. Oh no, our

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Speaker 4: bruised arms hung up for monuments. Our stern alarms changed

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Speaker 4: to mary meetings are dreadful marches to delightful, delightful measures.

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Speaker 4: Grim visaged war has smoothed his wrinkled front, and now,

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Speaker 4: instead of mounting barbed steeds to fright the souls of

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Speaker 4: the lascivious pleasings of a loot. So what I like

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Speaker 4: about that is that whole thing is a fucking burn.

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Speaker 4: It's basically like you went to war and then you

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Speaker 3: And I love that.

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Speaker 4: I love figuring stuff like that out, like just old

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Speaker 4: time burns.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know anything about Shakespeare. I'm so proud

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Speaker 1: about this.

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Speaker 4: You are definitely not. It is such a weird and

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Speaker 4: specific thing to enjoy. And how about this. If you

442
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Speaker 4: want to know about Shakespeare, we will pick a play.

443
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 4: We can read it together, we can just do the monologues,

444
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Speaker 4: whatever you want. I will send you anything, talk through anything.

445
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 4: We will find things out together. Because I'm still learning.

446
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Speaker 4: There's so much to learn about this, dude. Let's just

447
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Speaker 4: pick something and figure it out.

448
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Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta be honest.

449
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Speaker 1: I feel like a shitty teenager right now because I'm

450
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: just like inhaling the joint, being like, can you just

451
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Speaker 1: do my.

452
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Speaker 2: Homework for me?

453
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Speaker 1: Because I don't want to read, I don't want to know.

454
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Speaker 1: I just I'm like, to me, I'm like, that's some

455
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Speaker 1: smart people shit.

456
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Speaker 2: This image is to do the homework for me.

457
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 4: This image is beautiful because all I see is the

458
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Speaker 4: coolest person in the world and the biggest nerd and

459
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 4: the biggest nerd in the world. Like that's how that

460
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Speaker 4: dynamic plays out. You're cool for fuck it ever. And

461
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Speaker 4: then I'm like, Hi, I'm forty three, I'm memorizing Shakespeare.

462
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Speaker 1: No, I'll tell you right now it is not cool

463
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Speaker 1: to be uninformed.

464
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Speaker 4: But here's the thing. It's never too late. And this

465
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Speaker 4: is this is why I truly. I love learning for

466
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Speaker 4: that reason because there's so much that I don't know about.

467
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Speaker 4: But if I just decide, like I really want to

468
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Speaker 4: know what the fuck is going on in the ocean,

469
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Speaker 4: I could not name. Aside from the fish that I

470
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Speaker 4: used to catch and eat in Alaska, I don't know

471
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Speaker 4: shit about fuck when it comes to fish or what's

472
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Speaker 4: happening in the ocean or where they come from, or

473
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Speaker 4: what's going.

474
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Speaker 3: On with tuna. I don't know anything.

475
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Speaker 4: So like I might decide like, yeah, you know what,

476
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna put it on my list this suit, I'm

477
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Speaker 4: gonna len as much as I can about fish. And

478
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Speaker 4: then when I have like a free moment instead of

479
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 4: just scrolling endlessly on Twitter, I look up some shit

480
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Speaker 4: about fish.

481
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Speaker 1: To me, I'm going, man, I should have not smoked

482
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Speaker 1: cigarettes with my friends outside of the school while the

483
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Speaker 1: Shakespeare classes were happening.

484
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Speaker 4: That's just how it's going to be in life, I

485
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Speaker 4: guess I am going to say right now, Because you

486
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Speaker 4: know I do an uber list every year, right, So

487
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Speaker 4: I do a list every year where I put one

488
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Speaker 4: hundred things on that list that I want to accomplish

489
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Speaker 4: within that year, and usually I get through like fifty

490
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Speaker 4: sixty of them.

491
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there are things that are big, things that

492
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Speaker 3: are small.

493
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Speaker 4: We'll do a list this year of things you want

494
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Speaker 4: to know about, because we're already starting with Doctor Who.

495
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're already going to do some Shakespeare.

496
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Speaker 4: We'll just put like ten twenty things that you're just like,

497
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Speaker 4: I wish I knew anything about that.

498
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we'll just fucking figure that shit out together.

499
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Speaker 3: We'll learn together. It'll be fun.

500
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Speaker 1: How about you just tell me the smart people things

501
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Speaker 1: and I'll cross it.

502
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Speaker 3: Off the list the list for you.

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Speaker 1: Can you just do the entire assignment. I'm sorry, I

504
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Speaker 1: hope it's not. I hope that's not triggering for you

505
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Speaker 1: as a smart person.

506
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Speaker 3: Should we do some movies? I don't know. I can

507
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Speaker 3: talk forever, but let's.

508
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Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about our theme, Danielle,

509
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Speaker 1: what is our theme?

510
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Speaker 4: Our theme is Christmas assholes favorite Christmas assholes. And we're

511
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Speaker 4: not doing holiday assholes for a reason, right.

512
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Speaker 2: Yeah, meaning like.

513
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Speaker 1: We're not incorporating all of the different ways to celebrate

514
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Speaker 1: the holidays.

515
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Speaker 4: And that's because I think you get more assholes at Christmas.

516
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 4: Christmas is a very assholeish holiday. There's not a lot

517
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Speaker 4: of not a lot of Quansa assholes.

518
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there are probably some Honka assholes, but

519
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: they're just charming.

520
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Speaker 3: So Christmas assholes is a specific kind of asshole.

521
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would definitely agree to that.

522
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Speaker 1: And honestly, like, there's so many Christmas movies, especially now,

523
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Speaker 1: Holy shit, Can I just say something like when we

524
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: were going through sort of the selection process of what

525
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: movies we wanted to talk about, I was like, do

526
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Speaker 1: you remember when we were kids and there was like

527
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: five Christmas movies and they were all from like.

528
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Speaker 2: The nineteen forties.

529
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Speaker 1: Now it's like, there were so many fucking Christmas movies.

530
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Speaker 1: There's like, you know, an entire channel of like.

531
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Speaker 4: Hallmark Movies or a cottage industry for Hallmark Christmas movies.

532
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of movies we could to

533
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Speaker 1: pick from. There are so many Christmas movies. And so

534
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Speaker 1: I think we did a pretty good job though of

535
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Speaker 1: really showing some assholes, some real Christmas assholes, And I'm

536
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: really excited to get into it. So my movie for

537
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Speaker 1: this week for the theme of Christmas assholes is a

538
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Speaker 1: movie from nineteen seventy eight. It's called The Silent Partner.

539
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Speaker 1: And it was directed by Darryl Duke.

540
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 3: Think of Where to Run, Think of How to Hide,

541
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Speaker 3: Think of How to Escape?

542
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Speaker 1: The Silent The Silent Partner was actually a remake of

543
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Speaker 1: a Danish film from the nineteen sixties. It's called Think

544
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Speaker 1: of a Number, which I actually think was based on

545
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Speaker 1: a novel, a Danish novel, So there you go. It

546
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: was written by the writer director Curtis Hansen, who did

547
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Speaker 1: La Confidential and eight Mile and Wonder Boys and he's

548
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: done a lot.

549
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Speaker 2: And it was directed by Darryl Duke.

550
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Speaker 1: As I mentioned, he was this Canadian filmmaker who primarily

551
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Speaker 1: worked in TV, like I think he did The thorn Birds.

552
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: Do you remember that mini series with Richard Chamberlain. Yeah,

553
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Speaker 1: that was a huge, huge deal. It was like the

554
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: original Fleabag or something like that. It's like a hot priest.

555
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: We got a hot priest here for but there was

556
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: a lot of original fleabags. I'm was thrown out out,

557
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: but we like fleabags or whatever.

558
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Speaker 3: We'll do a whole theme.

559
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: That's a whole other theme, folks.

560
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Speaker 1: But Darryl Duke also made this, I just have to say,

561
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: made this amazing movie called Payday with Rip Torn which

562
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: is like I think, is probably one of the best

563
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: movies about country music that was ever made. I just

564
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: have to shut it out. I mean, that'll be extra

565
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: credit for folks if you wanted to track it down.

566
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's awesome. So one of the interesting things actually,

567
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Speaker 1: I think the most interesting thing about The Sound Partner,

568
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: besides the fact that it's a you know, cool movie

569
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: or whatever, is that it was one of the earliest

570
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Speaker 1: movies that was made in what's called the Canadian tax

571
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Speaker 1: Shelter period. So essentially this was like an era in

572
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Speaker 1: Canada in their film production history when the Canadian government

573
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Speaker 1: basically allowed anyone who wanted to invest in a film

574
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Speaker 1: in Canada to ducked one hundred percent of.

575
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Speaker 2: It on their taxes.

576
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: Okay, and I and I know that there are like

577
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: several places in the US that kind of offer this thing,

578
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: like Georgia and where I'm from does it, and it's

579
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: mostly a way to get the film business, you know,

580
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: to the state. But like the one Hundo thing I

581
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: think is especially enticing.

582
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Speaker 3: As can imagine and a little desperate Canada.

583
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and like so naturally there was this huge

584
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Speaker 1: increase in Canadian film production in this era presumably because

585
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: lots and lots of people wanted like a really nice,

586
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: big one hundred percent tax break, right, and presumably lots

587
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: of them like didn't even care if the movie was

588
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: good or not. They just are like, I'm a doctor.

589
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: I need somewhere to put all this extra money.

590
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: That I have. So because of this, I think that

591
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: this is.

592
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Speaker 1: Why a lot of the movies that came out in

593
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: this era were like weird curiosities or like there's a

594
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: lot of like fun bad like genre films like AKA

595
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: like action and horror essentially, And there was also so

596
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: much investment that some people who were investing in these

597
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: movies these movies actually never came out, and that's eventually

598
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: why it ended. Because there was so much investment that

599
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: they were like, well, let's just like make a movie,

600
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: but we don't even care if it gets distribution because

601
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: we made the movie and we're getting to get a task.

602
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if anyone sees it. That is such

603
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: a blatant and bold scam.

604
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a scam, and it's.

605
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Speaker 3: The kind of scam I would one hundred percent participate.

606
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, that's a pretty tight scam. Actually, let

607
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: me just go, you know, give my money to some

608
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: people making some kind of movie, and it may not

609
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Speaker 1: even get shown. My name won't even be attached to it,

610
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: so we all win. Right on the other side of it,

611
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: there were actually like some pretty legit filmmakers that came

612
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 1: out of this era, including people like David Cronenberg and

613
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: Ivan Rightman, Bob Clark who made Black Christmas and a

614
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: Christmas Story, And there was actually some pretty legit great

615
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: movies that were successful that were made in this era,

616
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Speaker 1: including The Solid Partner. So The Sold Partner is essentially

617
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: a heist film and it stars Elliott Gould.

618
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: Nineteen seventies.

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Speaker 1: Elliott Gould play as a teller in a bank that

620
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Speaker 1: figures out that someone's trying to rob the bank and

621
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Speaker 1: then decides that he's just going to steal the money himself.

622
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: So after that, which happens pretty early.

623
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Speaker 1: In the film, the original thief, who was played by

624
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: Christopher Plumber, comes looking for his money and then it

625
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: sets off this like giant cat and mouse game that

626
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: plays out for you know, the rest of the movie.

627
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: So that's the synopsis of the film. So let's get

628
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: back to nineteen seventies Laed Gold. So The Silent Partner

629
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Speaker 1: was like a few years after he was in The

630
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Speaker 1: Long Goodbye, which is probably one of his most famous roles.

631
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: And he was definitely one of my favorite actors who

632
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: was working in the seventies, and he was in so

633
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: many good movies it's kind of impossible to imagine he

634
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: put in the work.

635
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: He put in the work.

636
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: Definitely put in the work. And I mean, let's get serious.

637
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: Whenever I see pictures of him from this era, like

638
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: he's just like that curly haired cutie. He's wearing a suit.

639
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I declare, I simply must be horny for

640
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean.

641
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: Well, he's also.

642
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: He's got this this thing that I think actors used

643
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 4: to have, maybe some actors have it now. But he

644
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 4: is a good actor. He plays his part, but he's

645
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: very much himself in the process. So all of his

646
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 4: little like nippishy kind of movements and is like talking

647
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 4: under his breath and his you know, his asides, and

648
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: it's just so fucking good.

649
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so chewy. I like it.

650
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: Also, let's get serious.

651
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: I also love him in the Oceans of Loven movies,

652
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: when he's that like old Jewish man with the giant

653
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: glasses and necklaces and robes and shit, I mean, come on.

654
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. He's so fine.

655
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: He's been smoking cigars forever. Do you remember when we

656
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 4: went to the New BEV. What were we seeing? Were

657
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: we seeing the Lngabaye? And he was there?

658
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't remember what we were saying.

659
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: Actually, it might have been sole partner, or it might

660
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: have been Oh what was it, I'm now camera.

661
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Speaker 4: I think it was a double feature because he was

662
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 4: only there for the first one, but it might it

663
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 4: might have also been.

664
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: No, that was the Bert Reynolds level feature. We've seen

665
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: a lot of movies with the New BIV.

666
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: But he was there, and like he's like in his

667
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 4: eighties I think now. But he started walking into the

668
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 4: building and I almost lost my mind.

669
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

670
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: We've already discussed how.

671
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 4: I am around usually around celebrities like I don't give

672
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 4: a fuck.

673
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, Elliott Goulden in his eighties. I almost lost it.

674
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Beatlemania, Like people fucking love him and

675
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: he's still so awesome. But you know, in my mind,

676
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: all I have to say is that I just like

677
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: want the kids to know that he was all of

678
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: this he was not just Monica and Ross's dad. Okay, yes,

679
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: he had a full life. You know, he had a

680
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: hot period. It maybe continues to have a hot period,

681
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: like we maybe he is the new Paul Newman in

682
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: that way.

683
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: He was married to Barbara Streisan, Like he's lived a life, y'all.

684
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: God he's the man and I just need people to

685
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: know that. But anyway, let's move on to like the

686
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: real obvious Christmas asshole of this movie, and it is

687
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: crazy evil Christopher Plumber.

688
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: So that is good to know because I wanted to

689
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 4: ask you who who do you think is the asshole

690
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: in this movie? There's an obvious asshole but there's also

691
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 4: a subtle asshole, a Christopher Plumber.

692
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: Yes, we can go.

693
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the obvious asshole is Christopher Plummer simply because just

694
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: imagine imagine Christopher Plumber in the Sound of Music, and

695
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: then imagine the complete fucking opposite of that.

696
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is like Christopher Plummer in this movie.

697
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: He is a bank robbing, misogynistic, murdering, sadist Santa Claus

698
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: impersonator right like it's it is. I mean, he is

699
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: bone chilling in this movie, Like I mean, Papa von

700
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: Trapp has soured in this movie, and like, I mean,

701
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: the whole time, you're thinking, like Elliott Gould really fucked

702
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: with the wrong dude, like he stole the wrong guy's money, which, yeah,

703
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: that feels like it could be a theme for another episode,

704
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: like I stole the wrong guy's money or something I

705
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: fucked around and stole from the wrong person, which is

706
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: why don't steal money.

707
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: But what I think.

708
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: Is the most interesting about the Christopher Plumber character though,

709
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: besides the fact that it's like he's a Santa Claus

710
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: impersonator with a gun.

711
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like, come on.

712
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the Santa Claus outfit with a gun in

713
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: a mall.

714
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: Yes, which I will get to I got to say

715
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: about that mall. But Christopher Plummer's character in The Solent

716
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: Partner is like he's the kind of villain that I

717
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: think showed up in a lot of like seventies and

718
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: eighties movies, which is this, he's kind of this Like

719
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: his character to me is very celluloid closity, which, yeah,

720
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: if you haven't read that book or.

721
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 2: Seeing that documentary, I urge you to. It's very interesting.

722
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 4: I had the same feeling because I was watching this,

723
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 4: and I'm like, all right, they don't ever explicitly say

724
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 4: what's going on with you know, gender sexuality anything, which

725
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 4: kind of is cool, Yeah, to not say it.

726
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 3: Sure, he's just the person.

727
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 4: He's just a sadistic, misogynist Santa and get on board.

728
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: But they also had these very intent what felt to

729
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 4: me like very intentional beats, Like he had on clearly

730
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 4: had on lashes, he clearly.

731
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 3: Had long nails.

732
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 4: And then you know, when we first see him, he's

733
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: wearing like the net tank top and seemingly wearing a

734
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 4: lot of makeup like it was it was a look.

735
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 3: It was a look that draws attention.

736
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's cruising bathhouses and he's you know, murdering women.

737
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean to me, I think that you know, with

738
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties, especially in the early eighties, there

739
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: is a lot of like urban crime films like there,

740
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: you know, and also a lot of films that take

741
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: place like in the big city, which in those films,

742
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: I think the fear of the big city was obviously

743
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: gay people, trans people, just city people who are in

744
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: like s and m or you know, sort of like

745
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: that type of thing. So it's like, you know, I

746
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: think that that was sort of a trope that was

747
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: happening in that time. But I think it's interesting because honestly,

748
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: like at one point in the film, Christopher Plumber is

749
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: actually in full drag and he enters the bank again

750
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: after he's like really in the weeds with the Elliott

751
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: Gould character, and You're the.

752
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: Whole time, I'm just thinking, like, how just how.

753
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: Many old lady drag villains did Norman Bates and Psycho

754
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: actually give us.

755
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: I mean, this is like a total rehash, right.

756
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 3: Just a wealth an endless well to draw.

757
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 4: It's like.

758
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: So insane, and.

759
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 4: I have my own thoughts about that when it comes

760
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 4: to it. I mean, I could write a thesis about

761
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: queer narratives and murderous women and you know, using the

762
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 4: you know, the kind of outward appearance of a woman

763
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 4: to commit crime and murder. But I will write that

764
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 4: thesis instead of talking that thesis right now.

765
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I want to hear it.

766
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: But you know, I do understand that I have moments

767
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: of this podcast where like, should I do a grad

768
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: school level lecture right now? But no, I'm glad that

769
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: you kind of get that because I was kind of

770
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: thinking that I've seen this movie several times, and every

771
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: time I'm like, ah, that character is so interesting. But

772
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: he's like, in spite of this tropism or whatever it

773
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: is happening, he is like a legit scary character. Oh yeah,

774
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: his face is just always so cold and crazy. So yeah,

775
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean he's a Christmas asshole when you get right

776
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: down to it. But you know, one of my favorite

777
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: things about this movie, though, is is that it.

778
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: Takes place in the mall.

779
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: As we talked about, and not only was the mall

780
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: at Christmas time like a staple of my childhood. I'm

781
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: sure it's you know, if you're a certain age, especially

782
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: the mall at Christmas time is like the biggest thing

783
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: in the world. It's like everything was insane.

784
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: Chaos, beautiful chaos.

785
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: I actually worked in a mall for several years, and

786
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: working there during Christmas is like the worst moment of

787
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 2: your life.

788
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 3: Hands. I was a barista and a mall coffee shop.

789
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: Ye, and during Christmas, I cannot tell you how many

790
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: times I would just look at my coworker, go into

791
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 4: the back and just weep, just sitting on a bag

792
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 4: of beans weeping. It was so stressful, and we were

793
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 4: at a serving coffee where we even like going to

794
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: get shoes or running back for clothes.

795
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: It was stressful.

796
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So I worked at Macy's and I also

797
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: worked at a marketing research place, you know how like

798
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: there is the people in the ball that have the

799
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: clipboards and like, hey, you want to take a survey

800
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: and you can make a lot of books. I worked

801
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: in that place for several years, even after college, so

802
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: I am. I worked in the mall a lot during

803
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: the holidays, and it was the funny. The funny thing

804
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: is that I can remember several like pre holiday training

805
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: sessions at multiple locations that I worked at in the mall,

806
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: where the vibe was essentially okay, everybody, it's the holidays,

807
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: expect everyone to be a complete dick and expect everybody

808
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: will try to rob the store.

809
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: Like that was the things that I was I was always.

810
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 4: Told right, and that's why we had the cry protocol

811
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 4: because the bosses were like, we get it if you

812
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 4: just need to cry, because everyone who comes in here

813
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 4: is going to be a shitthead.

814
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: It's like everybody's going to be mean and everybody is

815
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: going to try to rob you. So just know that,

816
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: you know how old are you seventeen? That's cool, Just

817
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: don't get scared. But honestly, I have such a fondness

818
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: for the mall. I mean, I'm always gonna love movies

819
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: where people work in the mall, just like there's a

820
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: hallway the Silent Partner where Susannah York, who plays Elliott

821
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: Gould's like coworker slash love interest, asked him if he

822
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: wants to go to lunch with her, and then she

823
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: just walks into the mall. And here's my assessment, and

824
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: this is based on, you know, my experience.

825
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: You know for a fact that they were not going

826
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 2: to the food court.

827
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: Okay, they were fancy and they were going to probably

828
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: like Ruby Tuesdays or Orson's Cafeteria.

829
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: Or something like there's ground round.

830
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: Yes, there's no way that they were like me, who

831
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: like would go eat at Saborrow on the loading dock

832
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: so I could smoke a cigarette immediately after I ate.

833
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: So I just would eat the pizza on the loading dock,

834
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: and then the minute I was done, just like light

835
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: up a ciarette.

836
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: So I cannot tell you how many meals quote unquote

837
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 4: I had. That was just a Wendy's Frosty and French

838
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: fries and I would dip the fries in the frosty,

839
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 4: and that counted as a meal for me.

840
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, most of my exactly. And also the meal

841
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: that I had was based on who I knew that

842
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: worked in the food court. So if I if I

843
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: knew the person that worked at like the subway, we

844
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: would trade food, then that's where I was going to eat.

845
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: It was never my choice.

846
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: It was always it was cute and what's free and

847
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: what's free. But I actually remember like the days when

848
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: you could actually smoke in the mall and me too big.

849
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: That was a huge thing. Like I remember people would

850
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: smoke cigarettes while they were like walking through the mall.

851
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: It's insane.

852
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: Oh my grandma would always like pop a squad and

853
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 4: those planters in the middle that were like also benches,

854
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, and just like fucking chain smoth And

855
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 4: that seems to make sense to me. If you're going

856
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 4: to be in a mall, relax, however, you need to relax.

857
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: God, especially during Ristmas, are you joking?

858
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: Like, just light up, take that entire pack and just

859
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: take all the cigarettes, put your hands around them and

860
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: just smoke twenty at a time.

861
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: Just do it.

862
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: But it's so funny because I was, like the minute

863
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: I saw that part of the movie where Suzanni York's like,

864
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to nunch now or whatever, like, I was like, Oh,

865
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: of course they're going to go into the sit down

866
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: place in the mall because they they're the bank people.

867
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 1: And it was like the bank people, the jewelry store people,

868
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: or like the makeup counter people and the department store

869
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: were like the upper crust of the mall employees.

870
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 4: The hierarchy of the mall employees remain the same everywhere exactly.

871
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: So if you have to dress professionally to work in

872
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: the mall, then there's no way.

873
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: You're slumming it in the food court.

874
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: You're going to the sit down place with like the

875
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: Tiffany lamp in the booth or whatever.

876
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: You're going to a place that also serves alcohol. Yeah.

877
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about Elliott Gould in

878
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: this movie again simply because his interactions with Susanna York

879
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: are very interesting, and this is why I think possibly

880
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: he might be the like subliminal asshole that you spoke

881
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: about earlier. So you have the obvious Christmas asshole aka

882
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: Santa with the gun but then you have Elliott Gould.

883
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: The interesting thing about him is that as much as

884
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: we love him and think he's charming in pretty much

885
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: any caper that he's in in this movie, it's like, okay,

886
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: get let's get it straight.

887
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 2: He is also a criminal.

888
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: He's trying to rob a robber, which is not you know,

889
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: not great, right, And then he treats the Susanna York

890
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: character as you know, at the beginning of the movie,

891
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: he's very much like interested in her and she's dating

892
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: somebody else in the bank, who, let's get serious, is

893
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: not as cute as Elliott Gould, but is also a scumbag,

894
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: also a scumbag. And you know, and as much as

895
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: my heart goes out to this woman because I was like, girl,

896
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: I make poor choices like this a lot, like I

897
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: get it, clearly don't be with this married guy, especially

898
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: when you have Eliagoul knocking on a door. But then

899
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: at some point he pivots into only needing her around

900
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: if she can help him act out his crime, which

901
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: is annoying as shit to me, and he does this thing.

902
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: That I hate so much.

903
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: Like if you think about this, this move just in general,

904
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: not within a context of a movie, but if you

905
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: think of it in general, you'll.

906
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: Be like, how fucking dare you?

907
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: Like when he goes to kiss her as a way

908
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: to get her to not see something that he's doing

909
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: some fucking bullshit that he's pulling, And I'm like, that motherfucker,

910
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: I can't believe that shit.

911
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 4: Fucking hate it. And I also hate he does this

912
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 4: as well. He does that thing that I fucking hate.

913
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: If somebody is building you into a fantasy life that

914
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 4: they have no intention of following through on, get out

915
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 4: of there.

916
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, do not.

917
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 4: Sit around for well, you know, if I had mind

918
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: brothers in the future, we would be on a boat

919
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 4: in Katalina and get out. You do not use me

920
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: to build your fantasy life while you go fuck this

921
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 4: other lady or fuck that guy or whatever.

922
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 3: You get out of there.

923
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: Get out of there.

924
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's almost like, come on this like the

925
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: more fantastical it becomes.

926
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: Then you gotta you gotta tell yourself, is this the one?

927
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: I don't know? You need some realism.

928
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: I need some You can't build me into a fantasy

929
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 4: and then treat me like.

930
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: Shit in reality. That is not how that works, Yeah, exactly.

931
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: But you know, ultimately the thing about this movie, So,

932
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the reason why the Silent Partner.

933
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: It's like one of those movies that shows up on.

934
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: A lot of like film people's list often, and you know,

935
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: I think that's for good reason. I mean, because honestly,

936
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: it's a very tense, exciting movie where you basically get

937
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: to see someone plan out how they're gonna rob a bank,

938
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: which is like a thrill always. Yeah, right, Like I

939
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: love the methodical parts of it, where it's sort of like, oh,

940
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: so now we know how the button works, and now

941
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: we know how you know that's that shit.

942
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: Is endlessly fascinating to me.

943
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: But then you also get to see the other the

944
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 4: back end of that, which is like, what do you

945
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 4: do now, Like you fucked a bank and a criminal?

946
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and and and there's a lot of moments

947
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,959
Speaker 1: where you're kind of like, I know that we've said

948
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: in the past, I don't mill yourself a knife, but

949
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: also it's like, don't have your cleaning lady clean out

950
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: your refrigerator in case you decide to hide a fucking

951
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: key to a safety deposit box in a jam jar.

952
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: Okay, Like like.

953
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: Is like the oh shit moment where your plan might

954
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: fall apart is always something innocuous, like oh, it's literally an.

955
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 2: Old woman that fucked up my entire life, right.

956
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 4: What I love about that scene is that she was like, well,

957
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 4: I didn't do anything.

958
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: Everything was old. She was like, fuck you, you're gonna

959
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 3: come in here with this attitude. I didn't do anything.

960
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: I threw out some old jelly. Get out of here.

961
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: You have a cleaning lady, right, presumably she's clean out

962
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: of your refrigerator before. Maybe don't do that because your

963
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: entire fucking plan hinges on this, and now you fucked yourself.

964
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: So there you go.

965
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: And since you're a bastard in the love department, I

966
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: guess she kind of deserve it.

967
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: Right at any rate.

968
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I'm not generally suggesting that people watch

969
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: something like The Silent Partner, because honestly, do we want

970
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: to watch tents and stressful films for the holidays. But

971
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, like some people are twisted, including myself, and

972
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: would probably watch someone get murdered by a fish tank

973
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: while the chestnuts are roasting on the open fire or whatever.

974
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 4: Look, if you're in my family and you know about

975
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 4: that movie and don't show it you are not invited

976
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 4: to open gifts like you better be bringing that out

977
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 4: at some point.

978
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 2: I know.

979
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: I feel like if I told your grandma, Hey, we're

980
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: gonna watch this insanely tense crime film for.

981
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: The holidays, she'd be like cool, Like we're yeah.

982
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: Does the Leprechaun series have a Christmas version? Let's bring

983
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 4: that out. Is there a Christmas chuld Let's get on it.

984
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: So I guess basically what I'm saying is the Slent

985
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: Partner is my miracle on thirty fourth Street.

986
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: Happy fucking holidays.

987
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: Don't don't leave keys in the refrigerator, and don't cross

988
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: the wrong motherfucker.

989
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: I'll just say it.

990
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 3: I am so with you. I'd never seen this movie,

991
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 3: and I fuck I loved it.

992
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: Oh good.

993
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 4: We've got Christopher Plummer is definitely shopping at Glossier. We

994
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 4: got Elliott someone asking Elliott Gould if anyone wants to

995
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 4: smoke a number. You have a young John Candy, a

996
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 4: lot of them first early big screen appearances.

997
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: Love it.

998
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: You have mals.

999
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 4: You have a creepy Christopher Plumber peeking through a male slot,

1000
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 4: scaring the shit out of you. For the next five days,

1001
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 4: you're going to think about that image and more than anything,

1002
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 4: there's a character named Louise who wears T shirts that

1003
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: I would pay a month's rent to own right now.

1004
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: Louise's T shirts. I could not believe.

1005
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: How hilarious they were.

1006
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and it was just so in that seventies

1007
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 4: way the T shirts were done, like get some puffy

1008
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 4: like adhesive and just put them on there.

1009
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: Her shirts were.

1010
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 4: So weird and she would go to work, new employee

1011
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 4: going to work wearing T shirts that say bankers do

1012
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 4: it with interest penalty for early withdrawal. I mean, it

1013
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 4: was some seventies shit going on of those shirts.

1014
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: Everybody loves a bank themed sex joke, and I'll post

1015
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: this to our Instagram, but actually made the bankers do

1016
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: it with interest shirt and I wore it the other day,

1017
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: so I'll have to post a picture of me wearing

1018
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: it because I've always looked at those shirts.

1019
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: I love the puns. Give me a fucking break.

1020
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know if a professional

1021
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: company is making these shirts, but I'll make one for

1022
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: myself and I'll just wear it around the house and

1023
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: no one will get it unless you've seen the salad partner.

1024
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: So there you go.

1025
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: And you know what, Merry Christmas to you.

1026
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you're up. What's going on?

1027
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: All right? Millie? Don't you lose my number john Na anywhere?

1028
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 3: Then I can't find you? Okay.

1029
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 4: My movie for Christmas, Asshole, is Scrooged, released in nineteen

1030
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 4: eighty eight, directed by Richard Donner, written by Mitchklazer and

1031
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 4: Michael o'donahue, and based on a Christmas carol by Charles Dickens.

1032
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 3: I can't get to Thatler's blue it out of this

1033
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 3: little guy. We've tried crazy glue and he tried stables.

1034
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 4: I love this movie. I was surprised at how well

1035
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 4: it held up. But we're going to get to that

1036
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 4: in a minute, because first I got to run through

1037
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 4: some credits here. Yes, we have a movie that is

1038
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 4: directed by Richard Donner, who directed Superman the nineteen seventy

1039
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 4: eight Christopher Reeve, Superman, the Goonies, way too many movies

1040
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 4: with Mel Gibson.

1041
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did this movie between Lethal Weapons one and two.

1042
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, And I'm like, you need to cut back

1043
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 4: on that, mel Gibson. I mean, maybe he did know,

1044
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: but we didn't know at the time, but now we do.

1045
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 4: And you have no excuse, we're working with you. But

1046
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 4: what I also love is that Danny Elfman did the music.

1047
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 4: And in my childhood I knew him as the lead

1048
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 4: singer of Wango Boingo, which is a great new wave fan.

1049
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 4: If you haven't listened to Dead Man's Party, go right now.

1050
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 4: He's married to Bridget Fonda, and he did the music

1051
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 4: for some of your absolute favorites. He did the music

1052
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 4: for A Nightmare before Christmas, Edward Scissorhands, and he used

1053
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 4: to date Kim Gordon in high school.

1054
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't know that. Actually, yeah, I didn't know.

1055
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 4: So it's like already starting out with a blockbuster roster.

1056
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 4: Then you add Bill Murray, who's Frank Cross, the main

1057
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 4: character younger Alfred Woodard who plays Grace for the leaguer secretary.

1058
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 4: When I was a kid watching this, I knew him

1059
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 4: as Buster Poindexter, but then I found out that he

1060
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 4: was David Johanson of the New York I didn't know

1061
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 4: Buster Poindexter was like a personality. I thought that was like,

1062
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 4: that's who he was. He was that dude. You've got

1063
00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 4: Carol Caine. This movie is nepotism on speed. Like almost

1064
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,479
Speaker 4: all of Bill Murray's brothers are in it. His brother

1065
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 4: John Murray plays his brother in the movie, and his

1066
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 4: brother Brian Doyle Murray plays his dad. So it's just

1067
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 4: full of Murray's And it's based on Christmas Carol Charles Dickens,

1068
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 4: so we already know the plot of that. But there

1069
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 4: are so many cameos in this movie right off the

1070
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 4: bat that were like would blow your mind if you

1071
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 4: were an eighties kid, like Lee Majors, John Houseman, did

1072
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 4: he do the paper Chase? He's a paper chase dude, right, yeah,

1073
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 4: so John Houseman, like, why do I know about the

1074
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 4: paper Chase when I'm seven?

1075
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: It's good, though, it is good return to the Paper Chase.

1076
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: I washed the shit out of Paper Chase.

1077
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 4: Robert Goolay, Mary lou Retten, Jamie Farr and my personal favorite.

1078
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 4: You've got Anne Ramsey in there, who you know is

1079
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 4: Ma for Telly from The Goonies, her husband Logan Ramsey.

1080
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 4: But my personal favorite is the Solid Gold Dancers.

1081
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: Of Solid Gold. I'm so glad you brought that up.

1082
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 4: I mean, talk about a cornerstone of my childhood, of

1083
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 4: our childhood.

1084
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1085
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 4: So this it's just fun from the get go because

1086
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 4: the basic setup. The way that they kind of, you know,

1087
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 4: work with or reconfigure the Christmas Carol narrative. You still

1088
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 4: have the Three Ghosts goes to Christmas Past, goes to

1089
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: Christmas Present, goes of Christmas future. But it centers around

1090
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 4: Frank Cross Bill Murray, who is a TV executive, a

1091
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 4: ruthless TV executive who fires someone down Christmas Eve. Essentially

1092
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: he fired bobcat Goldway. He plays Elliot Loudermilk and his

1093
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 4: runner throughout this movie is so funny. I forgot how

1094
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 4: funny it was, and I don't want to ruin it

1095
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 4: for anyone who hasn't seen it, but it's very funny,

1096
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 4: and he's just kind of he's a stressed out exec

1097
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 4: who's putting on a live version of the Christmas Carol.

1098
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 4: But he's doing that in that eighty smarmy way of

1099
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 4: like you know, we're gonna have solid gold dancers, We're

1100
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 4: gonna have like you know, he's it's it's just kind

1101
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 4: of ratcheted up a little bit too much, and he

1102
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 4: is just a dick about it. He right off the

1103
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 4: bat shows a commercial that he made for this that

1104
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 4: is so terrifying that it genuinely kills somebody. They have

1105
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 4: a heart attack watching it, and he's just he just

1106
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 4: goes for the jug. He's that guy, like he doesn't care.

1107
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: He's all business. He's a president of this TV network IBC,

1108
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 4: and that is all he cares about. So when he's

1109
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 4: visited by his dead former boss who tells he's he's

1110
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: the poor tenth that tells him basically, you're going to

1111
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 4: be visited by three ghosts, and he freaks out and

1112
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 4: he calls his ex girlfriend who he you know, hasn't

1113
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 4: been with for fifteen years, and she comes running and

1114
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 4: it's Karen Allen.

1115
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: What did you think of so you know John Forsyth

1116
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: plays the old boss y? Yes, were you like, did

1117
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: you watch Dynasty? My my mom was obsessed with Dynasty completely.

1118
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 3: My grandma was on that show.

1119
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 4: I mean she could not get enough of it, could

1120
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 4: not get so yeah, it was wild that they chose

1121
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: kind of an aging John forsythe.

1122
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: Hand though, I mean, I know one was in the

1123
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: fucking zombie makeup and ship, but like outside of that,

1124
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: like I'm like John foresythe was like a hot old man.

1125
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 4: All Right, that's that's a bridge too far from me.

1126
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 4: We're not talking about hot same space.

1127
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: I will see you, but I will not raise you

1128
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 3: like I see you.

1129
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: Okay.

1130
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 4: It holds up, And I think part of the reason

1131
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 4: it holds up is that it is so dark. And

1132
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 4: it was technically not really a children's movie, but most

1133
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 4: of us saw when we were children. But it is dark.

1134
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 4: It goes to some deep recesses of the soul. There

1135
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 4: are some absolutely iconic moments of this movie. When Bill

1136
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 4: Murray's handing out Christmas gifts to go over his Christmas

1137
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 4: list with his secretary and he's only giving out Bathtel's nvcrs.

1138
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 4: Robert Mitcham plays his fucking boss. Yeah man, Robert cape

1139
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 4: Fear Mitcham. Oh yeah, he has had a wild career.

1140
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 4: He was doing like anything he could in the eighties.

1141
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: One of my faves. That's that's the thing though about

1142
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: old actors. Man was there like seventies and eighties stuff.

1143
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Yeah, it's a lot.

1144
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 4: So when he's visited by these ghosts, you've got again.

1145
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 4: David Johansen has the ghost of Christmas pass and like

1146
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 4: the old New York checker cab and visiting Frank's family

1147
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 4: and his dad gave him a veal for Christmas. And

1148
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 4: his mom was just like pregnant and smoking and kind

1149
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 4: of out of it.

1150
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 3: And it was bleak.

1151
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 4: It was bleak as shit, and I didn't remember it

1152
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 4: being that bleak, but it was kind of sad. The

1153
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 4: second ghost is Carol Kine. She's the ghost of Christmas Present.

1154
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:01,919
Speaker 4: Absolutely kicks his ass through the whole Her whole part

1155
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 4: in the movie is the kick is ass. It is phenomenal.

1156
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 4: There is a great runner that kicks up in each

1157
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 4: of his ghost stories about a woman who worked at

1158
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:12,479
Speaker 4: the network who keeps getting hurt.

1159
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 3: That's very eighties.

1160
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: That is like one of the things that I remember

1161
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: so much about. They used to play the trailer for Scrooge.

1162
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 1: I sort of got it was like on the front

1163
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: of every VHS tape that we rented for like two years,

1164
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: where it was that the one scene where she gets

1165
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: hit by the giant pole and is like, can we

1166
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: get a nurse? And it was that that thing that

1167
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: I just remember so much about the trailer for Scrooge,

1168
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: and also the part where David Johansson walks through the

1169
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: door and then Pearl Murray does it and he's like,

1170
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: I love that bit. I yes, that shit cracks me

1171
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: up to this day, especially considering how actually dark this

1172
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: movie is. It is like to get somebody like to

1173
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: have Carol Caine punch out Bill Murray with a toaster

1174
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: is fucking It's.

1175
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 3: Great, beautiful.

1176
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: Physical comedy is great.

1177
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 4: And the third ghost, I will say, used to scare

1178
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 4: the Ghost of Christmas Future, scared the shit out of

1179
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 4: me because it's this giant, hulking, like caped kind of

1180
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 4: Grim Reaper style skeleton and the way they present it

1181
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 4: like it just kind of shows up in the corner

1182
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 4: of television and gets bigger and bigger and bigger, and

1183
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 4: its big bony arm comes out and it's like Eddie

1184
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 4: from Iron Maiden, and like, it just freaked me out.

1185
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: So you mentioned Danny Elfman, and the funny thing is

1186
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: that I know that Danny Elfman did the music for Beetlejuice,

1187
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: and there was that moment of that movie what you're

1188
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: talking about, where he opened the coat opens and it

1189
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: was kind of like a Beetlejuicy Tim Burton moment, and

1190
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder if there's a connection there,

1191
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: but I guess not.

1192
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: I guess it was just.

1193
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: Danny Elfman was involved with both. But maybe that was

1194
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: kind of what was going on at the time in movies.

1195
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 4: I think it was definitely what's going on at the time.

1196
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 4: But this Screw which was nominated for an Academy Award

1197
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 4: for Best Makeup and Hairstyling and it lost to Beetlejuice.

1198
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 2: Oh weird, Okay, I didn't know.

1199
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 4: Definitely something going on in the air around this time, people.

1200
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 4: I think I think it was that people were just

1201
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 4: using like the special effects that they had at their

1202
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 4: disposal to the max.

1203
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone, we want to see like realistic clay slash

1204
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: like rubbers work involving souls and monsters and shity.

1205
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian, can you get me some real ghosts? Okay? Cool?

1206
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 3: But it's so and I love you know again.

1207
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 4: They go through the ghost of the Christmas Future, who

1208
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 4: just basically shows him his own funeral and shows Claire

1209
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 4: turning into a piece of shit because she listened to

1210
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 4: his advice. And Alfred Woodard has such a sad, sad

1211
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 4: story and I can't get over how much it still

1212
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 4: affects me all these years later.

1213
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, that's like the one thing that

1214
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: I think I wish this movie did a better job

1215
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: at is that I really wanted more from that, like

1216
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: Alfrey Woodard storyline, Like I I wanted to know more

1217
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: about like her family life. I mean, like Mabel King

1218
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: was her mom, which is amazing. And then as we

1219
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: just figured out, Regina King's sister played.

1220
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 3: Her daughtera Reina King, and I.

1221
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: Because he, just like Frank, really traits her like shit

1222
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: in the first half of the movie, and you do

1223
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: get these moments of like, you know, she's trying to

1224
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: take her son to the doctor and he's obviously got.

1225
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: Trauma, and like, I just wanted more.

1226
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 3: To that story completely.

1227
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: And I actually thought I could be wrong about this,

1228
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: but I read something after seeing this again about how

1229
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: there might have been more and that they cut it

1230
01:03:58,360 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: out of the movie.

1231
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: But I could be wrong about that.

1232
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 4: I feel like they kind of did the thing that

1233
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 4: I don't like, which is I was thrilled that they

1234
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 4: use people of color in the movie at all, but

1235
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 4: then they make the story center around violence or trauma,

1236
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 4: and then they just do not engage with it that much.

1237
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 3: I mean, to be fair, they do give.

1238
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 4: The little kid kind of a big moment, but it's

1239
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 4: not enough based on the background they built, because you know,

1240
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 4: the background is that Alfree Woods us Alfree Woodards husband

1241
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 4: was murdered in front of their son. Yes, and it's

1242
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 4: made into a joke about her wearing black for a

1243
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 4: year and I'm like, that wouldn't that wouldn't fly nowadays,

1244
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 4: And it kind of didn't fly that but he.

1245
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 2: Was not Okay.

1246
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: This is maybe asking too much of Hollywood, as I

1247
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: typically do, but I feel like he should have been

1248
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: nicer to her when he had had his moment, when

1249
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: he had had his awhal Ghosts visiting moment, Like I

1250
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: feel like he should have first went back to her

1251
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: and said, I didn't let you have the day off

1252
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: to take her side of the doctor.

1253
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: I'm a dick and I'm sorry, Like it was not enough.

1254
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, he should have instantly just dropped a pile of

1255
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 4: cash and her lap and said, take the rest of

1256
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 4: the year off.

1257
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

1258
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just gonna say it.

1259
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean, justice for grace, justice for Alfrey Woodard's character

1260
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: in this.

1261
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 3: Justice for grace.

1262
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 4: And I have a hard time watching these scenes anyway,

1263
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 4: because I mean, I guess I understand where it comes from,

1264
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 4: but I cannot watch, like I don't watch slave movies. Yeah,

1265
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 4: it's very difficult for me to watch black children in

1266
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 4: movies where they're in peril.

1267
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 3: I can't do it. I just can't do it.

1268
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so this kind of snuck up on me

1269
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 4: when I was a kid, and I was.

1270
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 3: Like, oh, fuck you.

1271
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to watch.

1272
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 4: This little kid suffer. But yeah, I think I have

1273
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 4: different feelings about it as an adult.

1274
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 3: But it didn't. It didn't just detract from the movie

1275
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 3: at all for me.

1276
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 4: But I definitely as an adult feel like I wish

1277
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 4: they'd gone deeper into that storyline and given given Grace

1278
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 4: a little more of what was what was her due. Yeah,

1279
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 4: and it's it's kind of a Bill Murray sort of movie,

1280
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 4: and that you can tell where he's there's so many

1281
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 4: parts where he's ad living and just kind of being

1282
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 4: Bill Murray. And I love all that, Like it's all fine,

1283
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 4: it's all fine. There's so many good eighties moments. His drink,

1284
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 4: Frank Cross's drink is a tab Stolely with tab Stolely

1285
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 4: and tab.

1286
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 2: They should have sent him to hell simply on that drink.

1287
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 4: Just gut right of Al Green and Annie Lennox sing

1288
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 4: put a Little Love in Your Heart the kind of

1289
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 4: theme song for this. It's just good It's a good

1290
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 4: Christmas movie to me because it is absurd and terrifying

1291
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 4: and the things that you laugh at are about the

1292
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 4: the disaster of the human condition.

1293
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: I gotta tell ya, I'm I'm glad that you picked

1294
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: this movie simply because this was the first time that

1295
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: I saw Scrooged since like nineteen eighty eight, and I

1296
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: think we saw it on VHS or something when it

1297
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: came out, because my.

1298
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: Parents were never taking me to first run movies. Are

1299
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: you kidding?

1300
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 4: Like in that case, you probably saw it in nineteen

1301
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 4: ninety because that's how long it took to get Mucket videotapes.

1302
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,919
Speaker 2: Of the You're completely right.

1303
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: I mean, this shit was like all your kids in

1304
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: your warp speed with like the first run movie showing

1305
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: up on Netflix or whatever. Like, No, you had to

1306
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: wait forever to see a movie on VHS. I haven't

1307
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: seen it since VHS. And it's so interesting because when

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Speaker 1: I was just kind of going on my Google hole

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Speaker 1: about the movie, it there was a lot going on

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Speaker 1: with this movie. And it's funny because it really feels

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Speaker 1: that way because you know, when you're a kid, I

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Speaker 1: don't think you really you know, obviously, my mind goes

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Speaker 1: to funny people screaming, physical comedy.

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Speaker 2: That's it, right, nothing too frightening.

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Speaker 1: But you know, as long as there's the redemptive you

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Speaker 1: know moment at the end, the balance is restored. But

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Speaker 1: as an adult watching this film, I was like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: this movie is kind of dark. It's so dark that

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Speaker 1: I don't think it completely resolves itself at the end.

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Speaker 1: Like I think it gets so dark that that part

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Speaker 1: where he basically like has this moment on live television

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Speaker 1: where he has his like Network moment where he's like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to you in the camera blah blah blahlah blah,

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Speaker 1: and he kind of I guess that was actually an

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Speaker 1: ad lib that Bill Mrie did that just kind of

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Speaker 1: like went off the rails a little bit, and you

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01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: could really sense that, like you could really be like, wow,

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01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: what is he saying exactly? I know that he's feeling feelings,

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Speaker 1: but what is what he's saying making fucking sense?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 2: It's like the narrative of the story.

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Speaker 1: And I mean that's I think what's interesting about watching

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01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: movies again, especially after a long time, because yeah, I

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01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: think that this movie was not I think I was

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01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: sort of led to believe that, you know, much like

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01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: a lot of movies from our childhood, especially Christmas ones

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01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 1: or holiday ones, like you know, we find it again

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01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: and it's a classic, and they get showed on TV

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01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 1: a hundred million times. But I'm like, wow, this movie

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01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: is actually way more fucked up than I ever thought.

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Speaker 4: And it was it is kind of a cult classic

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01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 4: movie because it didn't do that well when it came out. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: especially considering like the power, the star power behind it

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01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 4: and the you know, the people who were involved. But

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Speaker 4: I think it is kind of shocking to realize, what

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01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 4: how the darkness of this movie now, Like I think

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01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 4: that the whole premise of the fact that he as

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Speaker 4: a child didn't have a life and he lived his

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01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 4: life through televisions. All of his memories were things that

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Speaker 4: happened on TV shows, so.

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Speaker 1: Week totally and I'm like, wow, Yeah, I was surprised

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01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: at the avenues that it took that sort of just

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01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:06,560
Speaker 1: like didn't it just touched on this really traumatic scenario

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01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: that didn't factor in later and that just kind of

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01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: got resolved in like the basic way, which is that

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01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: like I have my big moment in front of all

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Speaker 1: these people and everybody sings, so right, Yeah, it's and

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Speaker 1: it's and I know that, like, I mean, everyone could

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01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 1: probably just google it, but there's like all this backstory

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01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: about how it was made and the writers and like

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Speaker 1: the director, so yeah, that should be.

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Speaker 4: There was so much tension, it's kind of and it

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01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 4: felt like that when you read the backstory, you kind

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01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 4: of realize that, Oh, yeah, it does feel like a

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Speaker 4: movie where everybody was fighting. Nobody just exactly.

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Speaker 2: No, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: Right hand doesn't know what the left hand's doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt strained, and but that's also interesting in

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01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: its own way too, like it's you know, like it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's definitely like an interesting movie to watch after

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Speaker 1: a long period of time.

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Speaker 2: And that chriss asshole. Wow, one of.

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01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 4: The biggest, one of the classics and just indisputable Christmas asshole.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's it for twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Wrapping it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so happy that we're doing this and I

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01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: am so glad to be talking movies with you every

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Speaker 1: week now me too.

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Speaker 4: It's the best year. I mean it's not it's the

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Speaker 4: worst year. This is the best thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the best is about the worst year.

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Speaker 1: But we really do wish you guys like happiness and safety. Yes,

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01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: all the things for the holidays and the new year.

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Speaker 1: And let's talk about the next episode, which is technically

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Speaker 1: happening in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Am I right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you want to tell them that the movies

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Speaker 3: and then they can guess the theme?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So the movies for our next episode are The

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Speaker 1: Fly from nineteen eighty six and Seconds from nineteen sixty six.

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Speaker 3: Oh, what's the theme.

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01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 4: That's gonna be a harder theme to guess? I think

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Speaker 4: I know because you think.

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01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 2: You know, but you have no idea. No kidding, you

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01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: think you know, but maybe maybe not. I mean, I

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01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's let's be real.

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Speaker 4: Our listeners are very smart, and most of you at

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Speaker 4: some point guess the theme on social media.

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Speaker 1: They guess or they give a better theme, and we'll

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01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: yet come up with them.

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01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, god, damn, they have.

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01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 3: It's happened several times. We're like, that's better. Shit, Maybe

1405
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 3: they should.

1406
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: Just do this show, right, I love it.

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01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 4: So technically we're off next week, but we have a

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01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 4: bonus episode for you going up on the twenty ninth,

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01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 4: but it's only on Stitch your premium, So If you

1410
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 4: want to listen and you don't have a Stitcher premium account,

1411
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 4: you should use the code saw to get a month

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01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 4: free and listen to us.

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01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 3: Try it out.

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01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 2: We are on social media.

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01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,560
Speaker 4: I saw what you did pod at GM. If you

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01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 4: want email, yeah, if you're like.

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01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm really tired of your relatives or something and you're

1418
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: just like I need an email to podcast hosts, just

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01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: do that.

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01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 2: We'll be there. Probably.

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01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 3: You can hits up on Twitter and Instagram.

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01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw pod for both. So we'll see you

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Speaker 2: next year.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for being with us this year

1425
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 4: and helping us kick this off in a good way,

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Speaker 4: and we will see you next.

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Speaker 3: See you in twenty twenty one.

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01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 4: Bye be Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Califrin, Colorado.

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Speaker 2: Ten seconds flat.

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Speaker 4: This has been an exactly right production. Our producer is

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01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 4: Lauren Elizabeth Brown. Our engineers an Aalise Nelson. Our social

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01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 4: media assistant is Taren Matza. Our theme songs by Tom

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01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 4: bry Fogel, artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are

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01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 4: Georgia Hartstar, Karen Cogareth, and Danielle Kramer. You can follow

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01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 4: us on Instagram and Twitter at I saw pod and

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01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 4: Please listen, subscribe, and leave us a review on Apple Podcast, Stitcher,

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01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:07,759
Speaker 4: or wherever you listen.