1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtis. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: And I'm Doug Prisner. Here are the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Israeli operations into Gaza are being carrying out mostly from 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: the air so far, but that may be changing. At 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Baxter's covering this story from the nine to sixty Newswoman 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: in San Francisco ed. 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, Brian. Israel is building up bases and 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 3: ground forces near the border, the Gaza border. Israeli generals 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: are saying they don't want hostages in the way, but 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Wendy Benjaminson says the goal is really clear. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 4: They are very immune, i should say too pressure from 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 4: the international community. They do what they believe is right 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 4: for the security of their nation, and they will do it. 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 4: And I think Eli f Benjamin there was, as Dan said, 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 4: extremely unequivocal. They're going to crush Hamas. If they can 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 4: rescue some hostages at the same time, great, but the 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 4: primary objective, in his words, were to crush Hamas. 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: And Bloomberg's Amory hor Durn said there are American hostages 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: in Gaza. 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 5: Americans are in Gaza being held by Hamas. He also 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 5: said that now we know that the death toll of 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 5: Americans over this weekend massacre by Hamas and Israeli territory. 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 5: That number now stands at fourteen. It was at eleven, 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 5: So this is weighing on the president. 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 3: Now, Israel is flying in its troops stationed in the region, 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: increasing personnel by three hundred thousand, and Bloomberg's Ethan Bronner 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: says also setting up military bases closer to Gaza. 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 6: As we said, they are preparing what we expect to 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 6: be a massive assault. You're right that they have not 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 6: spelled out for us that it's going to be a 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 6: ground war, but it seems inevitable that it will be 32 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 6: be the first time in almost ten years that Israel 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 6: does that. 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: Says a. US is already sending support. 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 6: Israelis have said that their supplies are stretched. I assume 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 6: this involves the Patriot Missile anti missile system that they have, 37 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 6: as well as basic equipment for soldiers and things for 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 6: drones to watch and prepare for hits from the air. 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: And Browner says emergency notifications are out within Israel itself 40 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: that there is a real possibility for more attacks from Hamas. 41 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: US President Joe Biden says more munitions on the way for. 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 7: Seventy five years. Is the only guaranteur the security of 43 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 7: Jewish people around the world, so that the atrocity of 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 7: the past could never happen again. Let there be no 45 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 7: doubt the United States has Israel's back. We'll make sure 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 7: the Jewish and democratic state of Isuel can defend itself 47 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 7: today tomorrow as we always have. 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: And Biden says, a mass does not stand for the 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: Palestinian people. 50 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 7: Atrocities sick me. 51 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 6: We're at Israel. 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: Let's make no mistake, yeah, calling it an act of 53 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 3: sheer evil. And Biden says as well. Security is being 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: some increase within the United States for fear of attack 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: on the Jewish community. Now, there's some international concern about 56 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: the station of US warships in the Eastern Mediterranean. Turkey's 57 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: President Resa Baerleiwan says it will cause mass occurs in Gaza. 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: US National Security Commission President John Kirby, on Bloomberg's Balance 59 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: of Power, rejects that notion. 60 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 8: That carrier strike group that is in the Eastern med 61 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 8: right now is there to deter any escalation of the 62 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 8: conflict beyond where it is right now. That's my response 63 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 8: to President. 64 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: Erwin US also warning Iran and Syria not to become 65 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: involved in helping Hamas, and Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln 66 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: plans to go to Israel later in the week. Other 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: news House Republicans meeting today. They try to agree on 68 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: a speaker before a possible vote tomorrow. They want to 69 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: avoid another circus of confusion. Kevin McCarthy has asked that 70 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: he not be nominated that according to punch Bowl Global News, 71 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalist and analysts 72 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: in over one hundred twenty countries. In San Francisco, I'm 73 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: at Baxter. This is Bloomberg Bryant. 74 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: All right, thanks very much, Ed. Ed Baxter will have 75 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: the latest on the Israel Hamas conflict all throughout the program. 76 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: We move on now to some other top stories of 77 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: the day. US treasury yields fell after some dubvish commentary 78 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: from Fed officials and perhaps on some haven buying as well. 79 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: Here's Atlanta Fed President Rafael Bostik. 80 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 9: I think that our policy rate is a sufficiently restrictive 81 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 9: position to get inflation down to two percent. Actually, don't 82 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 9: think we need to increase rates anymore. 83 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: That's Raphael Bostick. In the meantime, Bostick's Minneapolis counterpart, Neil Kashkari, 84 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: said that it's possible that rising yields may mean the 85 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: FED has to do less, but he thinks that the 86 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: Fed's rate outlook at the moment is unclear, and FED 87 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: Governor Chris Waller said that the FED will stay on 88 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: the job to contain inflation, but he mostly avoided the 89 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: current state of markets or monetary policy and doug at 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: the moment, what we're seeing here is a roughly thirty 91 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: percent chance of a rate hike by December, so you 92 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: can flip that around and say seventy percent likelihood that 93 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: we will stay on hold. 94 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: Well, the IMF is saying that global growth will weaken 95 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: next year. We heard earlier today from the chief economist 96 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: at the IMF, Pierre Olivier Garinchas. 97 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 10: Growth remains slow and uneven. The global economy is limping along, 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 10: not sprinting. Under our baseline forecast, growth will slow from 99 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 10: three point five percent last year to three percent this 100 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 10: year and two point nine percent next year, a zero 101 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 10: point one percentage point downgrade for twenty twenty four. 102 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: He is Pierre Olivier Gourinchas the chief economist at the IMF. 103 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: Now the fund is also saying today consumer prices for 104 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: next year could increase from five point two percent all 105 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: the way up to five point eight percent, and the 106 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: IMF is calling on central banks to keep policy tight 107 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: until there is a durable easing in those price pressures. 108 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: Brian Well China is said to be looking at some 109 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: new stimulus for it economy and may raise its budget 110 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: deficit this year to finance it. Bloomberg's April hung has more. 111 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 11: We hear policymakers are considering issuing at least one hundred 112 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 11: and thirty seven billion dollars of additional sovereign debt for 113 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 11: spending on infrastructure that could raise this year's budget deficit 114 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 11: to well above the three percent cap set back in March. 115 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 11: The discussions would mark a shift in beijing stance. Up 116 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 11: until now, the government has avoided broader fiscal stimulus. Source 117 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 11: to say an announcement may come as early as this 118 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 11: month in Singapore. I'm April Hong Bloomberg Radio. 119 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: Back Here in the US, the on again, off again 120 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: girl friend of Sam Bankman Freed took the stand today, 121 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: and the trial of the FTX co founder. Here's Bloomberg 122 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: Shanali Bosik. 123 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 12: We know that Caroline Allison, who has been a pivotal 124 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 12: witness both for the sake of the prosecution as well 125 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 12: as someone who's come up in the sake of the defense. 126 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 12: She has come up and immediately said, yes, we did 127 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 12: commit crimes Sam and I and others. And she said 128 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 12: that Sam megman Fried directed her as the CEO of 129 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 12: Alameda to commit those crimes. She said, we ultimately took 130 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 12: around fourteen billion dollars, some of which we were able 131 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 12: to pay back. She said that Alameda took several billion 132 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 12: dollars from FTX customers and used it for its own 133 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 12: investments and to pay off lenders. 134 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 2: That is Bloomberg Shanali Bossik. By the way, Bankman Freed 135 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: has admitted to making big mistakes while at the helm 136 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: of FTX. However, he denies intentionally defrauding anyone. Brian Well, we're. 137 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: Hearing that German shoemaker Birkinstock has priced its initial public 138 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: offering at forty six dollars a share. Birkenstock had marketed 139 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: shares of between a range of forty four to forty 140 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: nine dollars each. The IPO is the last of four 141 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: big listings seen as pace centers for US equity markets. 142 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: The story from Bloomberg's and Kates. 143 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 13: The move by Birkinstock comes less than a month after 144 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 13: UK ship designer arm raised five and a quarter billion 145 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 13: dollars in the year's biggest listing. Grocery delivery startup, Instacart's 146 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 13: IPO was in the six hundreds sixty million dollar range, 147 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 13: put US since down twelve percent. Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence 148 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 13: expect Birkenstock to fare pretty well when it begins trading, 149 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 13: and it could be the last big US debut in 150 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 13: twenty twenty three, partly because of federal government shut down, 151 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 13: what impact staffing at the Securities and Exchange Commission in Washington. 152 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 13: And Kates Bloomberg Radio. 153 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian Curtis, along with 154 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: Rashad Salamat and our guest is Adam Arelli, former US 155 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: Ambassador to Bahrain. Ambassador, thanks very much for joining us again. 156 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: It's been a while. We used to have you on 157 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: this show a lot. Yeah, it's great to get your 158 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: insights here. So we've had a pause in markets for 159 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: a couple of days, and there may be some suggestion 160 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: in that that what we're seeing in Gaza and in 161 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: Israel is not a world changing moment. So I want 162 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: to ask you about that and does that change in 163 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: particular if Israel does launch a massive ground attack into Gaza. 164 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 14: I don't think it Israeli ground attack into Gaza, though, 165 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 14: would be sufficient to cause widespread, significant disruption of markets. 166 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 14: What would what would be such an event would be 167 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 14: if as Balah really goes after Israel in the north, 168 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 14: obviously at Iran's behest and the U and and and 169 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 14: hostilities escalate from there. Uh. You know, there's a there's 170 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,479 Speaker 14: a lot of fire US has a lot of firepower 171 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 14: in the region. You've got an aircraft's carrier group in 172 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 14: the Eastern Mediterranean, We've we've flowed aircraft our own aircraft there. 173 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 14: So I think markets would be really spooked by uh, 174 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 14: by that level of conflict. And that's frankly, why the 175 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 14: administration is being so so clear to everybody who's listening 176 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 14: is just don't take advantage of the situation, don't escalate 177 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 14: because it could get very ugly, very fast. 178 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 15: And out of the thing is also, I mean, if 179 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 15: the law did get involved in the Nord, I mean 180 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 15: that is essentially a wholly owned subsidiary of the Iranian regime. 181 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 15: That would leave no doubts as to Taron's hands on this. 182 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean, yeah, well, they're already involved. Right, 183 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: it's just. 184 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 14: Mere not to put too fine a point on this, 185 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 14: but the decision on where this goes, frankly is in Tehran. Okay. 186 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 14: They can either decide to sort of let it play out, 187 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 14: let the Israelis do what they want, as they've done 188 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 14: in the past, or they can decide to take it 189 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 14: up a notch and if they do, if they do 190 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 14: decide the latter, Like I said, you know, we've made 191 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 14: it clear that we're prepared to respond in defense of Israel, 192 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 14: and it would have wide ranging consequences for a variety 193 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 14: of parties that are not directly involved in the conflict, 194 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 14: particularly in Asia. 195 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: Right when you look at these severity of the initial 196 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: attacks and taking six month old babies as hostages, and 197 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: taking away elderly people in wheelchairs and and and making 198 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: them hostages. Israel has already said there's there's no time 199 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: for negotiation at this point. No, Uh, is that almost 200 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: a guarantee that this does escalate? 201 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 14: Well, it's certainly going to go beyond where it is now. 202 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 14: Right now, what we've seen is Israel taking action against 203 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 14: targets in Gaza to degrade Hamasa's commands and control UH, 204 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 14: disrupt their you know, communications, there's logistics, pipelines and that 205 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 14: sort of stuff. They've sealed off the Gaza strip. They've 206 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 14: they've blocked the border crossing in Rafa so AID can't 207 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 14: get in UH. And this is all a prelude, mind you, 208 00:11:55,280 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 14: to a ground invasion of Gaza. It's it's noteworthy that Israel, 209 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 14: in space and I think three days has mobilized over 210 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 14: three hundred thousand men and women in uniform, which is 211 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 14: a record for even them. So they've got you know, 212 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 14: they've got what that's that's three percent of the population 213 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 14: under arms. You know, they've got ten million people. They've 214 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 14: got two hundred and sixty thousand ready to fight. That's 215 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 14: that's a considerable force. They're going to use it. So 216 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 14: we're going to see an escalation. The question is it 217 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 14: an escalation that is limited in scope, i e. Focused 218 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 14: just on Gaza and Hamas, or is it one that 219 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 14: is an expanded escalation that includes an attack from Hezbala 220 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 14: in the north, which would which would precipitate a massive 221 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 14: retaliation from Israel against southern Adina. 222 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 15: Adam. The thing is, we just returned to the same 223 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 15: playbook of you know, violence begetting violence that's been quiet 224 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 15: for a while. You know, what about the root causes 225 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 15: of all this as well, when you know we've got 226 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 15: a peace process which has been derailed. On top of that, 227 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 15: you have essentially an Israel which controls its enclaves the 228 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 15: guys are strip where they control water, electricity and the 229 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 15: means of life essentially for a population which is approaching 230 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 15: what two point two million people living in a narrow 231 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 15: area and one of the most densely populated places on Earth. Well, 232 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 15: these are things which have to be dealt with longer term. 233 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 15: Of course, at the moment it's not going to bet 234 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 15: on the table, but in the long term it has 235 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 15: to be surely yeah. 236 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 14: Oh gosh, no doubt about it. As you say, violence 237 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 14: begins violence. You know, I think in looking at a 238 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 14: lot of a commentary and hundred tree about this, you 239 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 14: know everybody's saying, oh, well, you know, you got to 240 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 14: remember what Israel's done to the Palestinians. And you have 241 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 14: others who say, look, no, nothing justifies this level of 242 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 14: you know, brutality against innocent civilian population that has been 243 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 14: said that is the target of the violence. So you know, 244 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 14: but it all begs the big question, which is what 245 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 14: any reasonable person seems to me would would would have 246 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 14: to admit, which is that as long as you have 247 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 14: a huge population held captive on their own territory with 248 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 14: no prospect for relief, then you're gonna get You're gonna 249 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 14: you're gonna have a problem that that festers and irrupts 250 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 14: from time to time. And that's what we've seen and 251 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 14: this is no different except the scale of the polence. 252 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: But that's briefly. We don't have Israeli soldiers on the 253 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: ground in Gaza. Gaza is not occupied in that sense. 254 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: Does that make it more difficult for Israel to go in? 255 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 14: Yeah? 256 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: But I mean does it make it more difficult to 257 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: go in when you don't have people there already? 258 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 14: Sure? I mean I was at I was in Fallujah, 259 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 14: not as a combatant, but I was at the Fallujah 260 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 14: after the Marines went in. 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