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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dunnon Zaren Burnette.

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Speaker 3: Ah, nice to see you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to be here.

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Speaker 4: It's good to see you.

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Speaker 3: Oh good. I'm glad you feel that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do feel that way.

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Speaker 3: I've got a question for you. Do you know it's ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: I do know it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: You look like you do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What's seven inches by seven inches by eleven and

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Speaker 2: point four inches weighs two point four pounds.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea, but I'm afraid of it.

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Speaker 2: It is made of one hundred percent polyester resin.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting more afraid of it and.

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Speaker 2: Cost you four hundred ninety five dollars.

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Speaker 3: I am so curious. Let's see a laminated flat map

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Speaker 3: of the world, over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: Close introducing the world's first ever music streaming Earn from

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Speaker 2: Liquid Death and Spotify. This makes me want to do

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Speaker 2: something to myself. Finally, death is a lot less boring

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Speaker 2: fine with the Eternal playlist Earn. Now the dead can

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, go on.

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Speaker 2: It's they only made one hundred and fifties things, thank

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Speaker 2: your God, and they're sold out.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I can believe that. Dudes.

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Speaker 2: Everybody wants to clue us in four hundred and ninety

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Speaker 2: five dollars a limit of five per customer, and.

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Speaker 4: He does.

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Speaker 2: And then Spotify we're like, guess what we can come

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Speaker 2: up with an eternal soundtrack? And so they partnered with

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Speaker 2: Liquid Death at the Water Company and they came up

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Speaker 4: So I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you have it on, can you

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Speaker 2: hear it outside of the urn? Or is it only inside?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: I really think it's only for inside the earn because

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Speaker 2: it's saying it's a collector's item for anyone looking to

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Speaker 2: a discrete Bluetooth speaker built into the lid, you can

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Speaker 2: connect from any compatible device and enjoy your favorite playlist

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Speaker 2: for all eternity. Yes, it's all parodies. No, The thing is,

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Speaker 2: it's like if you don't have a personality and you

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Speaker 2: want them to make one for you. You can go

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Speaker 2: to Spotify's Eternal Playlist Generator and answer a few questions

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Speaker 2: like what is your eternal vibe or what's.

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Speaker 4: Your go to ghost noise?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: I don't have Spotify, so I can't get like I'm

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Speaker 2: not having account I don't know what.

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Speaker 3: A ghost noise is. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to see. It looks like it's not it's

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Speaker 2: it's multiple choice, because I was like, my favorite ghost

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Speaker 2: noise would be, you know, like the sound of someone

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Speaker 2: playing a French horn and falling down the stairs. You know,

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Speaker 2: ghost right, But no, Okay, So what's your turn vibe?

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Speaker 2: One big party, very very chill, so much yearning or

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Speaker 2: being an actual angel?

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Speaker 4: Those are the choices.

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Speaker 3: There pop music over the last ten years.

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Speaker 2: It has to be what's your go to ghost noise?

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Speaker 2: Wu wah wah wah wa maha ha ha ha boo

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Speaker 2: or gentle spooky whispering. I'm going with the whispering.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those choices.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so then you're gonna get ivy. That is ridiculous,

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Speaker 2: zaren the limited quantity they only had.

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Speaker 3: Death needs to be stopped.

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Speaker 2: Liquid They do need to be stopped. There's just they've

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Speaker 2: gone too far. The joke isn't funny anymore. I will

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Speaker 2: note that and that the details about the product. Each

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Speaker 2: is one of a kind and produced in small batches,

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Speaker 2: may have small imperfections that make them unique. So like

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Speaker 2: they paid very little money your eternal reward for some

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Speaker 2: timu thing that. It's like, it's not gonna look exactly

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Speaker 2: like we wanted to.

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Speaker 4: But it was on purpose.

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Speaker 3: This world.

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Speaker 4: But I thought it was a joke.

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Speaker 6: It is a joke, a.

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Speaker 4: Joke, but I thought I was like, it's not April.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not that kind of joke, funny ha ha joke.

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Speaker 3: It's like, what are you doing around?

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Speaker 2: This is the late stage capitalism?

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. Wow, Yeah, it's ridiculous wind like when you exceed,

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Speaker 3: like this could be a Larry David you know episode,

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Speaker 3: Like we're way past that. You can't even see that

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Speaker 3: from here in the rear view. I got one for you, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: If you are creative and open minded enough, sure you

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Speaker 3: can find role models anywhere. For instance, there's a Georgia

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Speaker 3: man who believed Jesus was a perfect criminal role model.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, I mean he's just trashed the temple.

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Speaker 3: This is Ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,

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Speaker 3: and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free and

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Elizabeth, I've got two words for you.

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Speaker 3: Two words Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: That's you and I both attended Catholic school, and you

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Speaker 2: get a different sense of who Jesus was and what

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Speaker 2: he meant to the world depending on if you hear

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Speaker 2: it from nuns or from priests.

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Speaker 3: Would you agree about that?

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Speaker 4: And where you went to Catholic school?

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Speaker 3: Oh, definitely, And also yeah, which type of Catholic school

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Speaker 3: it is. It's more than one. So to the priests

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Speaker 3: who taught me theology, Jesus wasn't just like some you know,

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Speaker 3: turn the other cheeks started proto hippie and open toad

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Speaker 3: sandals at Jesuit. Jesus was the leader of spiritual warfare. Yeah, because, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the Jesuits are quote warriors for Christ aka God's Holy Marines.

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Speaker 2: Now, many British soldiers, many.

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Speaker 3: Of the priests, they did see and talk about Jesus

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Speaker 3: as this radical, anti Roman, anti militaristic figure, like you're

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Speaker 3: talking about the Prince of peace and all that. The

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Speaker 3: table flipping Jesus right, disrupting power structures, and like you,

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Speaker 3: I also like the table flipping Jesus. That's that's my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Jesus in like a meadow with like little baby animals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 6: Like feed everybody, Jesus.

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Speaker 2: I love feed everybody Jesus. I like Jesus. Your healed Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's good. And I like Jesus like whoa guys, No,

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Speaker 2: don't do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, be good to her. Yeah, help this, like

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Speaker 3: you know, foreigner Samaritan.

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Speaker 2: What have you? Exactly?

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Speaker 3: So my point is this all brings me to the

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Speaker 2: On jess This is groundbreaking.

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Speaker 3: No, he didn't see Jesus as a criminal who was

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Speaker 3: some table flipping anti authority figure. That's not the criminal

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Speaker 3: he saw. He also wasn't a Catholic, so that may

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Speaker 3: so specifically forgiving him for his crimes. Yeah, and if

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Speaker 3: Jesus could forgive him, then who is he to say otherwise?

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Speaker 3: You know, But he also saw Jesus as a criminal

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Speaker 3: role model, specifically and more importantly, because Jesus came back

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Speaker 2: Okay, I did not know that that was a prerequisite

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Speaker 2: for a good criminal.

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Speaker 3: For this guy's plan, Elizabeth, this one is a classic story,

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Speaker 3: a parable of a godly man who falls to temptation

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Speaker 3: and he becomes what he once ministered against. I'd like

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Speaker 3: you to meet Aubrey. Lee Price ends a family. They

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Speaker 6: Just like Drake.

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Speaker 3: He dropped the Aubrey yeah, and kept it moving. So

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Speaker 3: let's get into the rise and fall of Lee Price. Yes,

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Speaker 3: he was born in nineteen sixty six. Lee Price began

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Speaker 3: his life in Atlanta, Georgia. Shout out to the atl Soon,

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Speaker 3: though his father relocated his family down to Palm Beach, Florida.

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Speaker 3: That is where Lee Price, second son of a farmer,

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Speaker 3: learned to happily pick vegetables on the old family plot. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that didn't last long though, because his family bounced around

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Speaker 3: Lee Price was his quiet kid, good at sports. Tennis

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Speaker 3: was his favorite. Being a Southern boy, he also enjoyed fishing,

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Speaker 3: and so when he gets to junior high, I want

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Speaker 3: to tell you his old childhood. His family returns to Georgia,

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Speaker 3: where young Lee Price continues his tennis career. His high

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Speaker 3: school tennis coach liked and respected this kid so much

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Speaker 3: he named one of his own children after the boy. Okay, right,

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Speaker 3: that's just what that same coach said of Lee. Quote,

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Speaker 3: he had a good head on his shoulders. He was

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Speaker 3: sensitive and hard working. So there you go. Now, Lee

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Speaker 3: brought those same characteristics with him when he went off

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Speaker 3: attend Bruton Parker. It's a Baptist college in Georgia. So,

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Speaker 3: as Lee wrote in his unpublished memoir, The Inglorious Fugitive

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Speaker 3: unpublished quote, thank you. I paid my way through a

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Speaker 3: I worked for everything and anything I had, So, you know,

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Speaker 3: imagine you basically, you can start to get the general

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Speaker 3: shape of this guy. Hard worker, polite, respectable, likable, self starter, achiever,

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Speaker 3: highly principled, total achiever, ambitious. Those same values and behaviors

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Speaker 3: they would hold into adulthood. As Lee Price later wrote,

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Speaker 3: until my late thirties, I never really had any debt

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Speaker 3: other than a mortgage. I never wanted to know anyone

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Speaker 3: anything but the love of my heart. And that is

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Speaker 3: how I live most of my adult life. Okay, good guy, Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: she's surprised no one that Lee Price found a home

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Speaker 3: for himself in the church. That's why he went to college,

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Speaker 3: in fact, to study to become a minister, and he

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Speaker 3: his ministerial career, he started out as a youth pastor

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Speaker 3: in Georgia. He also went on to attend Columbia International University,

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Speaker 3: where he got a master's degree. After that, he got

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Speaker 3: his first job as a minister in a small town

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Speaker 3: called Paleone, South Carolina, about twenty two miles from the

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Speaker 4: Now, I believe he was of it.

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Speaker 3: They greeted the first two of their four kids right now. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: Lee Price, he also earned his reputation around town. Is

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Speaker 3: this friendly, caring local pastor. Soon enough, in the late

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Speaker 3: nineteen nineties, the family moves back to Georgia into a

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Speaker 3: town called Griffin. This is where Lee Price takes a

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Speaker 3: can kind of see what he's doing, right, It's nice.

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Speaker 3: It's this devout young minister. He tithed Elizabeth. He gave

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Speaker 3: for its charity works. He also began his own missionary

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Speaker 3: work down to South America. He traveled to Venezuela to

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, this was around the same time that Lee Price

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Speaker 3: also began his financial education. He studied investment strategies basically

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Speaker 3: So, Lee wrote in his unpublished memoir, I had no

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Speaker 3: Now, this all sounds super promising to Lee Price, because,

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Speaker 3: So on the final day of the year, December thirty first,

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Speaker 3: He convinces locals in Alpharetta to invest four million of

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Lee Price's response was, no, boy, he stopped inviting McSwain

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Speaker 3: Fifty instead of three point four fifty million.

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Speaker 3: But this wasn't all, Elizabeth, because it was also far

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Speaker 3: Lee Price was already losing his client's investment capital. So

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Speaker 7: No, we're back, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: So where were we staunching two incredible wounds?

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Speaker 3: The Lee Price is leveraging his clients' funds and the

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Speaker 3: what does Lee do next? Well, does engage in like

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Speaker 3: Does he get into maybe real estate with all these

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Speaker 3: They're all great questions, Elizabeth, stop guessing. I'll tell you. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I can't Lee sweet talk the bank officials into letting

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Speaker 2: How do these guys sweet talk because people let lenders

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Speaker 3: Well, he's talking to like the bank officials, basically like

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, he continues to mail out fraudulent investment statements to

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Speaker 3: nothing to worry about, what, you know? So you know

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the name for it.

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Speaker 3: But also one with a rug pull as the kids

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Speaker 4: His charity would disappear.

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Speaker 3: Look over there. So now he's stealing more money. He's

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Speaker 2: What would Jesus do?

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Speaker 4: Bracelet is burning like ligature marks on his wrist?

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Speaker 2: Is happening?

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Speaker 3: Yet Now remember how I said would all get worse.

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Speaker 3: We're not there yet. This is not the worst part

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Speaker 6: And of that twenty one million.

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Speaker 3: He manages to lose sixteen million dollars. But hell, that's

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Speaker 3: just in the bank. Now there's also his brokerage, yeah,

440
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: where he's also raised forty million dollars from his one

441
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 3: hundred and so investors. Right, and he deposited thirty seven

442
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 3: million of money in a trading account at Goldman Sachs, Okay.

443
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 3: By the May of twenty twelve. Of that thirty seven million,

444
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 3: only four hundred and eighty thousand dollars was remaining.

445
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: Stop it.

446
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 3: That is just over one percent of the initial thirty

447
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 3: seven million. No, I mean it is like point zero

448
00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 3: one two nine.

449
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 2: So it was just like one of those general trading

450
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 2: accounts or was.

451
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: He he's trading, he's making trade.

452
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 4: Index, So he's.

453
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 3: Making mistake after mistake and then putting on their high

454
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 3: risk leverage and then getting wiped out, and then trying

455
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 3: to do it like maybe I don't assume, like a

456
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: futures contract and leveraging and Martin gets a margin call.

457
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: He's doing everything wrong. So Lee isn't done losing money though,

458
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 3: because before all was said and done, he incurred total

459
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 3: investment losses of seventy million dollars.

460
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: He lost seventy million dollars.

461
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: But that total wasn't revealed until the bank of the

462
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 3: brokerage fully collapsed. So at this point nobody knows this

463
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: financial regulators' accountants seventy million. Most For the most part,

464
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 3: I think he made he made himself some early on,

465
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 3: you know, to be able to get to the place

466
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 3: people trusted him.

467
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 7: Come on.

468
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, So with the end clearly on the horizon. Yeah,

469
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 3: what's Lee thinking? Now? Well, don't bother guessing, Elizabeth. I'll

470
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 3: just tell you, or rather I'll let Lee tell you,

471
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 3: as he wrote in his unpublished memoir The Inglorious Fugitive.

472
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 3: But time running out and facing extreme pressure, the losses

473
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: in all trade and accounts compounded daily. The situation at

474
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 3: the bank had forced me into quick, high risk taking

475
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: that caused me to make many very hasty and irreversible decisions.

476
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 3: No matter how hard I worked or tried, I could

477
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 3: not come up with any money making ideas or trades.

478
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: No matter how hard I tried.

479
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: I love it.

480
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 6: He's like, I'm by a bank, I lost all the money.

481
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 6: I'm trying. I'm working real hard over here.

482
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 4: You need to forgive me everything.

483
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 3: So Lee does the inevitable. He starts liquidating his own assets. Okay,

484
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 3: he sells his family's second home in Bradenton, Florida.

485
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: Well that'll do what. That should knock it all out at.

486
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 3: Least maybe a half million and a half or so,

487
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: he eyes. He starts eyeing the exits.

488
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

489
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, changes in his behavior start to become obvious to

490
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 3: his family, and I think, I don't know. I don't share.

491
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 3: You probably had the same idea about this. I think

492
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: adults forget how much children clock them. Oh god, right,

493
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: they watched them. They're learning from them, but they're also

494
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: gauging how their future will look since their parents control

495
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: their lives.

496
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. I mean. They always say, like

497
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: little pictures have big ears can hear things. But kids

498
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: also the studies, especially if there's like crisis in the house,

499
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: they pick up all the little micro expressions and all

500
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 2: the subtle stuff. And a lot of parents think they're

501
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: arguing in another room and it's like, yeah, sure.

502
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can hear you through the vents.

503
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

504
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: So this is certainly the case for Lee Price. His

505
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: kids clock him constantly. They see the pressure he's under.

506
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 3: Like Daddy seems stressed now. His daughter Hannah told Atlanta

507
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 3: Magazine we could tell he was under pressure. He'd say,

508
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: keep me and my business in your prayers, be strong,

509
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 3: and keep your eyes on the Lord. He eventually told

510
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 3: us we'd probably be going into bankruptcy.

511
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: BK's coming. Ps. Kids, pray for my business, Pray for

512
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: daddy's business.

513
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, pray that God doesn't looks kindly on my bankruptcy.

514
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 2: And they're just like it's like prayer hands emoji prayers

515
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 2: going up.

516
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 3: Father, God, take care of daddy. So one night Lee

517
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: sits down with his eldest son, Nathan, and together they

518
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 3: watch Braveheart. Nice father's son moment, And that night they

519
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: end up staying well into like the small hours of

520
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: the morning, just talking about life, talking about the importance

521
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: of the church. And this is a mind you a

522
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 3: path his son would consider following. So, according to Atlanta Magazine,

523
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: the next morning, with tears in his eyes, Lee Price

524
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 3: tells his son, never give up, never give up. And

525
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 3: these are like the last words that Lee Price says

526
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: to his son.

527
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 4: And after an evening of Braveheart, Yeah, and.

528
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: Talking all night about how life should go and the curves,

529
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: you'll be thrown.

530
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: A little light financial fraud exactly.

531
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 8: Now.

532
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: Rather ironic to me that Lee Price said never give up,

533
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: never give up, because.

534
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 6: He gave up.

535
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: He gave up on his life as a husband, a father,

536
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: a minister, a financial broker, a bank owner. Yeah, and

537
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: he decided it was time to fake his own death.

538
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, No, Elizabeth, Lee Price is no fool.

539
00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: You know.

540
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: He sounds like not only did he since the end

541
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: was nigh. He knew if he opted to fake his death,

542
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: he'd need a fool proof plan to fake it. Yeah,

543
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: he never came up with that, So he just winged it,

544
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 3: and he went with the best plan he could come

545
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: up with on the fly.

546
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 6: So what did he do? A great question, Elizabeth.

547
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: In June of twenty twelve, Lee decides it's time to

548
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 3: make his move, time to fake his death. But first

549
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: he hops on a plane. He flies down to Key West, Florida.

550
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: He's dressed like Jimmy Buffett on a bender. He's got

551
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 3: like the white shirt, the khaki shorts, sneakers, topped off

552
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 3: with a red ball cap. Okay, And we know all

553
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: of this because and like what he was wearing because

554
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: it's filmed by security cameras in the Key West airport. Okay,

555
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: we also know that he takes a cab from the airport,

556
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: same reason. The next time he shows up on a

557
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 3: security cameras at the local post office, also in Key West,

558
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: red ball cap has gone, has been now been replaced

559
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: by a white one, but same guy.

560
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

561
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: After the post office trip, Lee then next shows up

562
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 3: on security cameras at a dive shop. From there, he

563
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 3: climbs a board a ferry one that's headed north from

564
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: Key West to Fort Myers, Florida, which is like located

565
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: there on the Gulf side, just a little ways up. Okay,

566
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 3: So Lee is filmed aboard the ferry. He's still wearing

567
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: the same white ball cap and now it's pulled all

568
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: low to hide his face, like he's like, you know,

569
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: Leonardo DiCaprio going out to get ice cream.

570
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 6: And he's recorded standing.

571
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 3: Alone by the railing of the ferry looking sad, despondent. Yeah.

572
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: Days later, the letters that Lee sent from the Key

573
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: West Post office arrived back home to his family. Letters

574
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 3: are also sent to bank officials and to many of

575
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: his clients. The letters are essentially suicide letters. They outline

576
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: his financial losses, the deep shame that overcame him. He

577
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 3: hints at his plans to throw himself from the Key

578
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: West ferry. Terrified worried about her husband and their kid's father,

579
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: his wife, Rebecca, contacts the coast guard right, She's like,

580
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: you have to go out and look for him.

581
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 6: They're like, look, man, well no, you have to to.

582
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: They say, Okay, we'll send out a search and rescue

583
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: team see if we can find Lee. Price However, there's

584
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: a little summer storm that gets in the way, so

585
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: they can't send out a rescue mission right away. When

586
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: they finally do go out and look, they find nothing,

587
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: no body, no signs of like a floater, No red hat,

588
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: no white hat, nada. At this point, Lee Price has

589
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: left his wife and four children with just five thousand

590
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: dollars in the bank to carry on.

591
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if it's there, if there were a life

592
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: insurance policy, he can't collect on the suitde.

593
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: Remember I said he was liquidating his assets. He didn't

594
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 3: put that in the bank for them. He did, like,

595
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna need that. Daddy's going on the road.

596
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: So of course with five grand, Yeah, five grand for

597
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: five people, for five people for the rest of their life, exactly.

598
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: From here on out. And most likely I'm guessing because

599
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: she was the wife of a Southern minister who's also

600
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: a financial probably wasn't working.

601
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: That's just as the Lord intendeds Yes.

602
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: So seventeen year old daughter Hannah, who's working as a waitress,

603
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: begins to ask for extra shifts so her family can't

604
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: get by God. Yes, So about six months past, no

605
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: sightings of Lee Price, his wife Rebecca. She asked the

606
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: courts to legally declared her husband deceased. This is necessary

607
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: for the life insurance policy and so forth death benefits,

608
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: you know whatever else. Oh yeah, the family believes Lee

609
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: Brice is gone, swallowed up by the rough and storm

610
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: he sees that day. On December thirty first, twenty twelve,

611
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: judge declares him deceased. However, some folks have their doubts.

612
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: For instance, his daughter Hannah had a coworker who told

613
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: her your daddy's alive. Well, then, I don't know if

614
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: this is like her faith exactly. I don't know, like

615
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: it was like a psychic's intuition, a premonition from Aleco whatever,

616
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: a waffle House line cook. I don't know. Perhaps it

617
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: was just cynicism, like no, I don't think he's dead,

618
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: whatever it was. That same opinion was also shared by

619
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: the FBI.

620
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's I think you'll probably go.

621
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: Into this video again, will you like which one? Is

622
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: there any footage of him jumping?

623
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 8: No?

624
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: No, so, because you see Elizabeth he did not jump.

625
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

626
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: I figured they couldn't have footage of jumping because he

627
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: never jumps, But the FBI does.

628
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 6: Man, they investigate.

629
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: They discovered the financial trail of fraud, the suspicious transfer

630
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: of millions of dollars. They conclude that Lee Price is

631
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: most likely not dead. So, as special Agent Ed Suckliffe

632
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: put it, although his suicide letters seemed sincere, we didn't

633
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: believe he was dead for the simple reason there was

634
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: no body, so nobody no. You know, they like to

635
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: have a body to say someone's dead.

636
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: They do.

637
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: They tend to do that right now. Is also as

638
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: the FBI, then would you know they were motivated to

639
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: put out a public statement that was, in my opinion,

640
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: a bit aggressive the quote. Price lied to investors about

641
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: where their money would be invested, and lied to them

642
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: about the solvency of his company. He lied to the

643
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: bank on whose board he served about investment of bank capital.

644
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 6: And lied again to cover up that lie.

645
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: It is therefore reasonable to assume that Price's talk of

646
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: suicide was also a lie. The FBI is actively looking

647
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: for Aubrey Lee Price. How many times did they say lie? Well?

648
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: And I would imagine where the Fairy Goes has pretty

649
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: easily tracked currents and is a well traveled waterway.

650
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: And they see where people wash up. This isn't not

651
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: the first person to die if you go on to.

652
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: The deep way out into the ocean, that's more likely

653
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: the golds around.

654
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not like you're going to get like stucked

655
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: into a widening gyre of.

656
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 4: The golf f You're never very far from the coast.

657
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: That's the other part. And it was a fast fairy.

658
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: So it was like, yeah, yeah, anyway, since now we'll

659
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: put it this way, if he wasn't deceased, yeah, if

660
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 3: he had indeed faked his death on that ferry from

661
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: Key West, where is Lee Price?

662
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: Is there?

663
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: Let's roll back the stone and find out great.

664
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: Question, Elizabeth and great analogy. He was, wait for it

665
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: in Mexico. Okay, Now, the idea to run off to

666
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: Mexico had not come from prayer and divine intervention, but

667
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: rather it was the intervention of a friend of his,

668
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: a man who he called Pedro, which is not man's

669
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: real name. Oh yes, now, he just.

670
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 4: He just found a man from Mexico and decided his

671
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 4: name was Pedro.

672
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: For the purposes of his memoir. He needed a name,

673
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: so he's Pedro. Ok Okay, So, as Lee Price tells it,

674
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: he was eating dinner with Pedro one night at Pedro's restaurant,

675
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: and according to a truly wild story that he tells

676
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: in chapter five of his memoir The Inglorious Fugitive, the

677
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: two men were out drinking some liquor when his friend

678
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: pedro Quote leaned forward, cleared his throat, looked me dead

679
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: in the eyes, and said, listen to me very closely.

680
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: Before we talk any further. You need to know one thing.

681
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: I know where your children are right now, and I

682
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: can have them all dead in just a few hours

683
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: with one simple phone call. I held my stare as

684
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: my hands began to shake and sweat intensely. I felt

685
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: something run through my veins. It was not fear. It

686
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: was the deepest hatred I had ever felt. I slowly

687
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: reached into my pants under the table, I pulled out

688
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: a loaded thirty eight magnum and pointed it straight above

689
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: his belly. Now, in case you were curious, Elizabeth, there

690
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: is no such gun as at thirty eight magnum. We

691
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 3: so we know that parts.

692
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: So that's a problem.

693
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: So did any of these scenarios like when they were

694
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: when he was in Bible college and they were running

695
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: through like preacher class, like was this one of the

696
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: case studies?

697
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: Well, so I'm not sure how twelve verst you are

698
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 3: in Star Wars, but I like that he pulled the

699
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: Han Solo move of pointing a gun at a person.

700
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 6: From under a table.

701
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

702
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: And if you think about it, the name Grido who

703
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: Han Solo pointed the gun out, it's not far from Pedro.

704
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is that this story is likely

705
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 3: as real as Star Wars. Anyway, back to Lee Price and.

706
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 2: Was Pedro supposed to be like a cartel guy?

707
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: Oh? Hold that thought. Oh so, anyway back to Lee

708
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: Price and his action packed adventures with Pedro, and I

709
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: quote he heard me cock the trigger and I said,

710
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 3: listen to me very carefully.

711
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 6: Do not take your.

712
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: Eyes off of my eyes. Do not even blink at

713
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: your bodyguards. We will both die right here, right now,

714
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: and I'm.

715
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 6: More than ready to go. I looked at him.

716
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: With fire in my eyes and said, poor k chingar

717
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: laderia algo como aso, which means why the would you

718
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 3: say something like that?

719
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 6: He started laughing.

720
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 9: He said, I wanted to see if you are alive,

721
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 9: you are having feeling left in you. I see that

722
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 9: you do as firmly as I could, I said, I

723
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 9: may be a mere shell of a man at this moment,

724
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 9: but I do not care who you are.

725
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 3: I have absolutely no fear of death.

726
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 6: I will put at.

727
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: Least six bullets in you before your bodyguards empty every

728
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: shell of their guns into my body. If I even

729
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: get a small whiff that you are thinking about touching

730
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: my family in any kind of harmful way.

731
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 10: He said, tranquilo, trankuilo. I promise that nothing will happen

732
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 10: to your family as long as we have an understanding.

733
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: I am just a slack job, right And then how

734
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: long his sentence that he ran off about I have

735
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: actually no I will put at least six, But he

736
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: goes on and ministering fantasy pages. Yes, this did not happen.

737
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: No one could talk that. I could barely get it

738
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: out in one breath. No, and I knew what I

739
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: was gonna say. So anyway, what was this so called

740
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: mutual understanding that he and Pedro had. Well, that's what

741
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 3: I wanted to know, Elizabeth. And according to Lee Price,

742
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: is this tough guy moment not only impressed his boy Pedro,

743
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: but it also made Lee Price feel all icky inside,

744
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: so he had to excuse himself from the table of

745
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 3: color as he tells it, I could feel my face

746
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: turning pale and my body shaken, so I hurried to

747
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: the bathroom and.

748
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 6: Vomited my entire meal.

749
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: Tears were streaming down my face again, and I sat

750
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: bent over trying to catch my breath. After a few minutes,

751
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: I finally regained my composure enough to walk out. He

752
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: smiled nast if I my pants, He put his arm

753
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: around me and said, I think you and I can

754
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: work together just fine. So there's just ends up that story.

755
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 6: Did you in your pants? You and I are good?

756
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

757
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 6: So, now that he's abandoned.

758
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: His family, I love that he's so angry that this

759
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: family is threatened, but he's willing to leave them high

760
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: and dry.

761
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: Dollars and the idea that he's dead, That's what I'm.

762
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: Saying, the idea that he's dead, that he's got this

763
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: one kid and he is like, Daddy.

764
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 4: You're my hero. My favorite thing in the world is

765
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 4: to watch you preach.

766
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: And then, oh, but then my dad took his own

767
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: life and jumped off a fairy.

768
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: So remember this, All this Pedro stuff happened obviously before

769
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 3: the fairy. He gets the idea to get on the fairy.

770
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 4: I he he hates my family, I hate them more.

771
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: I meet up with him at a restaurant and have

772
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: an argument.

773
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 3: So now that he's abandoned his family, betrayed his friends,

774
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: his trusted investors, giving up all that he wants, claim

775
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: to be holy and true and valuable, Lee Price is

776
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: ready for a new career, ready to face new challenges

777
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 3: with his crime buddy Pedro. So back to Lee Price

778
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: and his action packed adventures. With Pedro. We walked through

779
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: a back hallway and through a side door where we

780
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: entered his club. The room was full of flawless, young, beautiful,

781
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: barely dressed ladies dancing for hundreds of men to loud

782
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: dump in Latin music. There must have been ten on

783
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: the stage and another thirty sitting with men. When Pedro

784
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: walked in, everyone looked as if the King were coming through.

785
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 6: I followed. We went out another door and down a

786
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 6: long hallway.

787
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 3: We must have passed six different well armed guards, and

788
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: then someone opened the doors to a large warehouse room. Elizabeth,

789
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: do you want to take a wild guess what was

790
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: waiting behind door number one? U. If you guess cocaine,

791
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 3: you win today's no prize.

792
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 6: As Lee price remembers it.

793
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 3: There's thirty to forty workers, there's stuffing little bags full

794
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: of white powder. Pedro took me to every station. I

795
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 3: spent a couple of hours just listening. I'm a curious

796
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: person by nature. I'm adventurous. I have very little fear.

797
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: We walked outside and stood on the loading dock looking

798
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: over a lake in this incredible city. He stood there

799
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: and he said, do you want to be on the

800
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: receiving end of a stream of or the giving end

801
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: of the stream of wait? I told him I'd never

802
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 3: thought about it like that.

803
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: Stop. This is like the worst episode of Sons of

804
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: Anarchy I've ever seen, mixed with Bosh because he told

805
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: him trin Kilo, which is my favorite thing in the

806
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: world to tell people. By the way, Trinkloo like the

807
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: desperate need to be cinematic of walking into a booming

808
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: nightclub and you walked through to a warehouse.

809
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 4: That's where there are all these people.

810
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 6: In these you don't want to separate, rate those you

811
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 6: want to Then he.

812
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: Goes on like a comprehensive guided tour of all the

813
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: different stations.

814
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: To listen to when someone's packing cocaine, So are you

815
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: tamping it with your finger.

816
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 4: And then meanwhile, can we get.

817
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 6: Back to the stream of you can either be giving or.

818
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: Receive that you have two wolves. Do you want to

819
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: be on the receiving end of the stream or do

820
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: you want to be on the giving end of the streaming?

821
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: I mean, basically, Lee's price is New World. There's all

822
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: These are your two choices to be done. He decided

823
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 3: he would rather wet others.

824
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: You know. But here's the thing, like, what side of

825
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: what was? What did Jesus do? Did he on people?

826
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: Or did he get peed on?

827
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 6: He give the peace?

828
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 4: If you have to, you have to pick one.

829
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 6: You both receive it and give it, you know, or you.

830
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 4: Could be like Jesus an opt out of the context.

831
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: He turned into wine, so actively pricing his action packed

832
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 3: adventures with Pedro.

833
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 2: This guyed is watching Lee. That's all I gotta say.

834
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: And not chuckling. Pedro laughed and walked upstairs to his

835
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: plush office, where he continued his pitch.

836
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 10: I want you to work for me. I can give

837
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 10: you whatever you want. If you can help me, I

838
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 10: can help you make millions.

839
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 6: He said. You are a.

840
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 10: Criminal, and we are all criminals. I need someone like

841
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 10: you that you can help me and I want to

842
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 10: help you.

843
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: That's like you've gone from like Mexican pedro to South

844
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: American team.

845
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: I moved around, Elizabeth, I bory. I have many problems

846
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: throughout my businesses. I will pay you very well.

847
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 10: Yes there are risks, but you will learn quickly and

848
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 10: I personally will train you.

849
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: My family has.

850
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 10: Millions and millions of dollars in US, European and Asians banks.

851
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 6: You know banks, you know investments.

852
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 10: You will know our biggest and best buyers of our

853
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 10: product in the United States.

854
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 6: And that, Elizabeth, is how Lee Price decided he should

855
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 6: become a major cocaine trafficker.

856
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: Sure. Sure, this whole criminal enterprise, not in theory and operation.

857
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the physical plant is now my new

858
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: Bob Newhart's apartment. So we've got a restaurant, a nightclub,

859
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: a coke warehouse, offices upstairs that are very plush, very plush,

860
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: And so I'm trying to get a layout in my head,

861
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: much the way that I tried to get a layout

862
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: of Bob Newhart's apartment in my head and found it

863
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: to defy physics. Yes, but aside from that, this is so,

864
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: this is my new thing. I'm gonna draw schematic.

865
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're gonna tribute that couldn't make sense of it.

866
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: I that with crayons, and she's like, where does the

867
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 3: staircase go? So, by the way, you know this is

868
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: all before he would impand in his family and fake

869
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 3: his death because it's so this was you know, he's

870
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: going to go start off his new life and he's

871
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: just looking down the road. So we've covered it. That's

872
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: what he does. He fakes his desk, he nopes out

873
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: on his family. Once he's presumed dead, he finds his

874
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: way down to Old Mexico to start his new life

875
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 3: with Pedro, and he later become an expert in cocaine.

876
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 6: So let's leave it there.

877
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: Let's take a little break, cool oark basis, and then

878
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 3: after these messages we'll get back to Lee Price.

879
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 6: Rebeca Elizabeth. So where is Lee Price now?

880
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: Down in the like the mall that's underneath.

881
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: He's in Mexico, Old Mexico, and he's trying to become

882
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: an expert in cocaine to become a major trafficker and

883
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: make millions and put him in Japanese banks. And you're a.

884
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: Friend, that's how you lead a flock. That's the way

885
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 2: to preach the word of the Lord.

886
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: So, as Lee Price told the reporter from Atlanta Magazine

887
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: and Interview, he was a very quick study when it

888
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: came to cocaine, or as he put it, I was

889
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: an expert taster of cocaine, understanding the quality. I had

890
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: to taste it to know if it was any good

891
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: or not quality control. Every one of my friends were criminals.

892
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 3: I didn't have any friends that were normal people on purpose.

893
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be around anyone normal. I'd never

894
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: been around people he used drugs. Before I preached against alcohol.

895
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 3: But now I'm sitting around with a bud light in

896
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 3: my hand, fake drinking it. I'd usually drink about half

897
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: a bottle at most. That was hard for me.

898
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 6: I just don't like it. But it was part of

899
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 6: my cover.

900
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: So fake drinking it, Well, I drink half of it?

901
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: Will I drink half the case?

902
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: Our undercover minister is now getting caught up and pushing

903
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: cocaine real Miami vice style.

904
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, once he's worried about bud light and he's moving

905
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: of coke.

906
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: Yes, and that he has to try and.

907
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 4: This is.

908
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: This is before like you said before.

909
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 3: He Well, at this point, he's he's made the faking.

910
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 3: This is his new life.

911
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 6: He's becoming a cocaine expert.

912
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

913
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 6: So uh. Once the league completes.

914
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: His on the job training as a cocaine trafficker, he

915
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 3: decides to test his luck and sneak back into America.

916
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: Oh that's perfect ideally, yeah, because.

917
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 3: There's a lot of competition in South America, in Mexico

918
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: a cocaine traffickers. He's like, I'm going to go to

919
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: a growth market like rural Georgia. So did he choose

920
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: to make a life for himself far away from his

921
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: family and all that he knew, like say in San Diego. No, No,

922
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: he did not. Instead, he went back to Florida and

923
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: he started his new life as he has he recalled

924
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 3: the restart of his life. I lived out of a

925
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 3: budget motel for a week or so and made a

926
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: couple of fake id's. Once I was able to purchase

927
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: a bicycle, I rode bike all over the place, mainly

928
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: for exercise and the working off of stress. I had

929
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: a few friends and quite a few associates. My rules

930
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 3: were kind of simple. Trust absolutely, no one talk as

931
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: little as possible and do as little evil as possible,

932
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: get close to no one. There you go. Those are

933
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 3: his three life.

934
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 2: He's in a cheap motel, rides a bike everywhere in Florida,

935
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: made Sarah top of the Mountain.

936
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: Sewing cocaine by the gram. This is when Lee creates

937
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: his new identities. Namely, he becomes Jason, who was a

938
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: divorced dad who sadly lost both his fortune and his

939
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: family because of his cocaine addiction.

940
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 4: That's a good cover, right.

941
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 3: He also had other identities such as Gator oh and

942
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 3: Diesel Oh. So these are his primary three new names,

943
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: Jay for Jason, Gator, and Diesel Now to help you

944
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: sort out one from the other. As Lee Price tells it,

945
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: Gator was the funniest because he wore Florida Gator football apparel,

946
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: including a hat and acting like I was fan.

947
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 6: I don't know what. I don't know what Diesel war.

948
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,479
Speaker 6: Perhaps he's just a fantas Jean of Diesel jeans.

949
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, or maybe like he was big into Shack Diesel's

950
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 3: rap career and he's just like have you heard this album?

951
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 4: Maybe he just huffs Diesel.

952
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: Red rag. I got another chemical burn on my butt

953
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 3: cheeks now, Anyway, Lee settles into his new life as

954
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: a dead man and a major cocaine trafficker. As he

955
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 3: tells it, the focus from my first six months was

956
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 3: to restore my spirit and my soul and to try

957
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: and rebuild some mental capital. It was very difficult. The

958
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: beast within had me and I could not break free.

959
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't feel bad.

960
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: He was suffering a major religious crisis. He'd also started

961
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 3: his new career as a major cocaine trafficker with his

962
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: crime buddy Pedro. So you know he's suffering Elizabeth, He's challenge,

963
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: he's being tested by the Lord. He decides to learn

964
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: about a second trade, marijuana cultivationion distribution. Yeah. As he

965
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: wrote in his memoir The and Glorious Fugitive, I understand

966
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: every strain of marijuana. I mean I spent time in

967
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: twenty grow houses there. I know where there are twenty

968
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 3: grow houses in the Southeast right now. I was just

969
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: walking through whatever doors open for me. I met all

970
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 3: kinds of people, people that I love. Now they don't

971
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 3: judge you, and I like that. I'm a criminal. We're

972
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: all criminals. We've got each other's backs. We're all criminals.

973
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 3: And now it is the Lord Elizabeth Leckley.

974
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: Well, and I've met all these grow houses where they

975
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: attached to night clubs. Did they have a restaurant there? Also?

976
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 3: I love that as he's embracing his new life as

977
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 3: a drug trafficker, his life is becoming like a Soviet

978
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: era movie that meant as a cautionary tale about life

979
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 3: in the United States. In the Medica, we are all criminals.

980
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: Well, and it's like they don't judge you. I'm like,

981
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: my dear, Yeah, that was your old job is to

982
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: be welcoming and loving and it's not your job to judge.

983
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 3: Judgmental Baptist so deeper level, Lee Price can't turn his

984
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: back on his faith Elizabeth, not as easily as he

985
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: turned his back on his family and everyone he knew

986
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 3: what he loved.

987
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like he's turning his back on his

988
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: faith really easily, you.

989
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 6: Know, because his faith still gave him something.

990
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: God was still on his side, Because, as Lee Price

991
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: tells us, I went to bed every night crying, quoting

992
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 3: Psalm twenty three, the Lord is my shepherd. I shall

993
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 3: not want he makes me lie down in green pastures.

994
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 3: You know. I didn't stop crying before bed until probably

995
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago.

996
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, Okay, So that's his faith that

997
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 2: he's leaning on. His version of things. He's at this point,

998
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: he sneaks, I'm gonna keep a lot of myself.

999
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: He sneaks successfully back into America, and he makes a

1000
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: new home for himself as a pot grower, distributor cocaine

1001
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: supplier in a town called Citra, Florida. Okay, it's a small, rural,

1002
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: unincorporated area central Florida. If you want to picture it

1003
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 3: is in northern Florida, but not at the top like

1004
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: in the Panhandle over by Tallahassee, you like where Florida

1005
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: turns into America's appendage. It's like a right smack dab

1006
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 3: in the middle of the northern part of the state,

1007
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: near Gainesville and that weird retirement community.

1008
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 6: The Villages.

1009
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: Sure, so he's in an unincorporated area, like.

1010
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: An hour or two north Orlando. Are you get the idea?

1011
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: So he there in central Florida is where Lee aka

1012
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: j Ak gator Ak Diesel is work.

1013
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: Aubrey I never forget forget.

1014
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: Is working as a bodyguard for sex workers and he's

1015
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: getting his he's trying to grow his cocaine trafficking business

1016
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: and his marijuana cultivation business. Yes, so part time pamp,

1017
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: full time drug dealer and trying to make it work.

1018
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 4: I just.

1019
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 3: Lee lives there in a mobile home one where he

1020
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: trades labor with the couple who owns it, so that

1021
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: that qualifies as paying his rent. So he's doing like

1022
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: odd jobs around their land.

1023
00:50:59,600 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1024
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: He also grows pot in a large shed on their property.

1025
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 3: A shed that's large enough for two hundred and twenty

1026
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 3: five pot plants.

1027
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: That's a big that's a barn that is, and a

1028
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: night club underneath it and as office and a pool

1029
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: on the top.

1030
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: Yes, so of course he's lying about what's in the shed.

1031
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 3: He tells his local handyman that comes like, you know,

1032
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: doing work for the family, that his uncle is ill

1033
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: and he lives in the shed and don't go near

1034
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: it because apparently his pretend sick uncle has a hell

1035
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: of a temper and wants absolute privacy and uses.

1036
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 2: An incredible amount of electricity exactly and gives off a

1037
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: very distinct.

1038
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 6: Smell buttery pot smell.

1039
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: No, you can smell it.

1040
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: Yes, it smells like butter and pots shoved together. So

1041
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 3: he also tells this handyman that his uncle quote will

1042
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: shoot anyone who came near him.

1043
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 4: So you stay, give it a good parime that.

1044
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 3: Works to keep most folks away from his shed barn. Now,

1045
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 3: this ruse goes on for a year almost two as

1046
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 3: Lee aka j Aka Gator aka d's aa Aubrey makes

1047
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: his way deeper into the Florida dope game despite his

1048
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: life he's made for himself through luck and pluck.

1049
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: I'm still I'm still going back to the electricity bill.

1050
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: No one saw it shoot up. Well, you know, do

1051
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: you have a barn, a grow operation in a barn barn?

1052
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: Yes, with like two or twenty five plants. That's a

1053
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: lot of lights, a lot of light lights, and those

1054
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 3: lights get hot.

1055
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: Yes.

1056
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 3: So at this point he's, like I say, he's trying

1057
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 3: to make a life for himself. You know, he's got

1058
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: luck and pluck and also exquisite tasting cocaine, and the

1059
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 3: good times are bound to be showing up any day

1060
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: now for Lee Price. But then there's this nagging feeling

1061
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 3: he has like he kind of just wants them to end, you.

1062
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 4: Know, he just you know, there's a really easy way

1063
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 4: to do that.

1064
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, one day stop one Fateful Day in June

1065
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 3: twenty thirteenth. It all kind of comes to the ahead

1066
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: right the way Lee Price tells the story of his terrible,

1067
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: no good, very bad days. It starts with a line

1068
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: that I love in any memoir. I didn't have an

1069
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 3: adderall that morning, this guy, so you just know where

1070
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 3: the start. Like that, things are gonna go downhill fast,

1071
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 3: real fast. So let's get to it. From an interview

1072
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 3: Lee did with the reporter from Atlanta magazine, and I quote,

1073
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: I didn't have an adderall that morning. I was driving

1074
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: up to Hinesville, Georgia on nine nine to five to

1075
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: get my car registered so I could sell it. It

1076
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: was about ten am. I was praying through my prayer list.

1077
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 3: I couldn't never finish. I'd get distracted. It was one

1078
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: of those moments where I was angry at God. I

1079
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 3: just crossed over into the Brunswick area. Immediately I thought

1080
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 3: about the bank. I kept asking, where are you God?

1081
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: Why don't you ever answer my prayers? Why have you

1082
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: left me in this situation? So he's driving in like

1083
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 3: a Dodge Ram truck, yelling at God about leaving it.

1084
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 6: Why did you do this to me?

1085
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 3: God?

1086
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1087
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: Why not?

1088
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 3: Why did I do this right?

1089
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 6: Why did you do this?

1090
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: But also it makes me think of there's that story

1091
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: about the guy who's drowning and all these people come up.

1092
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: Can I help you?

1093
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 3: No?

1094
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 6: No, the Lord's gonna save The Lord's gonna save me.

1095
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: And it's like, why did you take all the opportunity.

1096
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 6: To how many people I sent you?

1097
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 2: Yes? Lord's so I feel like that's this cat where

1098
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: he's just like why God?

1099
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: Why? So to complicate matters emotionally, spiritually and you know

1100
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 3: you name it. Lee Price is also missing his family

1101
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 3: at this time in his life.

1102
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 4: You know what, because it's get out of here. Who cares?

1103
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 4: I hope they've forgotten who you are.

1104
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 6: This is the end of the year.

1105
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 3: It's just after Christmas, it's coming up, so it's like

1106
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: New Year's Eve, or as he tells it, it was

1107
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 3: the Christmas holidays and I wanted to see my kids.

1108
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 3: I banged my steering wheel and anger and I remember saying, Lord,

1109
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: where are you? I said that like ten times? So

1110
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 3: he still this angry faith.

1111
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: Because he wanted to feel better.

1112
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 3: The one thing he just can't quit is that the

1113
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: Lord loves and looks out for him. That's the thing

1114
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: he's kept anyway. He receives an answer from the Lord

1115
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: is Lee Price remembers it, and I quote, then I

1116
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 3: looked up and there were blue lights behind me, and

1117
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: I said, yes, thanks Lord, that's where you are.

1118
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 2: Yes, Love.

1119
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 3: Now, rather than me tell you where God is, Elizabeth,

1120
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: close your eyes, I want you to picture it. It's

1121
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: New Year's Eve, twenty thirteen, and you, Elizabeth, are working

1122
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: because you are Glenn County Sheriff's Deputy, Justin Giuliano, and

1123
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 3: you are out on patrol.

1124
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 6: It's been a mostly quiet night.

1125
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 3: A few house calls, a couple of fights at the bars,

1126
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 3: and a few drunk drivers. Nothing too out of the ordinary,

1127
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 3: not for a holiday night in southern Georgia. You're parked

1128
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 3: alongside the Interstate Freeway, good Old I ninety five. You're

1129
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: parked in a speed trap spot unseen, waiting for some

1130
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 3: bozo to come blown by.

1131
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 6: You get lucky and.

1132
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 3: Some bozo does come rolling past. It's a two thousand

1133
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 3: and one Dodge Ram truck. What catches your eye isn't

1134
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: the speed of the truck, but rather the cracked windshield,

1135
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: as well as the overly dark tinted windows. And to

1136
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: top it off, the expired tags on their license, So

1137
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 3: you flip on the lights of your cruiser pull out

1138
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 3: onto the interstate. Your well maintained cruiser easily catches up

1139
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 3: to the two thousand and one Dodge Ramp truck. The

1140
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 3: driver does as they should and pulls over to the

1141
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 3: side of the interstate. He turns off his truck engine

1142
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: and you step out of your patrol car. You take

1143
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 3: your time walking up to the driver's side window. You

1144
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: unsnap the holster of your gun. You also touched the

1145
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 3: back of the truck to leave your handprint in case

1146
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 3: anything goes wrong. Then you approach the driver's side window

1147
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 3: as cars speed past you on the interstate. The driver

1148
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: is a middle aged man. He looks like he's seen

1149
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 3: some rough years. You ask for license and registration. The

1150
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 3: man seems nervous, edgy, like a long tailed cat in

1151
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 3: a room full of rocking chairs. He stammers out in answer, Uh, yes, sir,

1152
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 3: I have that.

1153
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 6: That's right here.

1154
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: You tell him to move slowly as he gets his

1155
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 3: registration out of the glovebox. You never know when one

1156
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 3: of these good old boys has a gun in the

1157
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: glove box or under the seat. He turns back with

1158
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: registration in hand and a State of Georgia driver's license.

1159
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 3: Something's not right about the license. For one, it doesn't

1160
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: match the name on the registration. He says, you just

1161
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 3: borrowing the truck to go see his family for the holidays.

1162
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 3: His voice tells you that's a lie. You ask him

1163
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 3: to step out of the truck. He agrees, He opens

1164
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 3: the door and steps out. You ask to search his

1165
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 3: vehicle and his person again, he agrees, careful to keep

1166
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: your senses attuned for any sudden movement. You search the vehicle.

1167
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: Then you go and pat him down and empty his pockets. Well, well, well,

1168
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 3: what is this a second driver's license? It's also him,

1169
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: and it's also fake. That's grounds right there for an

1170
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 3: arrest giving a false name and date of birth. You

1171
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 3: tell him he's under arrest, and you run down his

1172
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: MIRANDA rights. Once you have him safe and secure in

1173
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 3: your patrol car, he tells you his real name. He

1174
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 3: says he's Augrey Lee Price, and getting caught by you

1175
00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: is like a weight lifted off my shoulders. Boom, just

1176
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 3: like that.

1177
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 4: I love that. I love that I got to a rest.

1178
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: Did I hit his head on the car?

1179
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: So the Second Life of Lee Price aka j aka

1180
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 3: Gator aka Diesel aka Aubrey. It all comes to a

1181
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: wholly abrupt and unexpected stop at a traffic stop, to

1182
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: be specific. But what relief he feels, you know, that

1183
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: he could be freel all the lies and all the

1184
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 3: hiding and the shame of running from his family, all

1185
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 3: of it. That is what he's like. This is my reward.

1186
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: And so once he's in police custody, Lee Price admits

1187
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 3: he faked his death. He tells him everything okay. So

1188
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 3: at the station, the deputy gives him his one phone call.

1189
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: So the obvious question is who does he call? Yeah, Elizabeth,

1190
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 3: I'd love to tell you he calls his wife Rebecca.

1191
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: He does not, or perhaps one of his older children

1192
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: or you know, tell them where he is. He's alive, right,

1193
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 3: Daddy's coming home. But he does none of that. And

1194
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: it would be kind of darkly funny to say that

1195
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 3: he called his crime buddy Pedro, But no, he didn't

1196
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 3: do that either, So who does that leave. Well, instead,

1197
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 3: he called his own father and he tells him the

1198
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 3: good news, Daddy, He's alive. Daddy, I'm alive, which must

1199
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 3: have been a hell of a shock for the old man, right, sure,

1200
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: and he tells him also the bad news, and I'm

1201
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 3: in police custody. So, according to Lee Price, the phone

1202
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 3: call with his father goes like this, Daddy, I'm alive.

1203
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 3: I need you to listen carefully, call this number four

1204
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 3: me and give them this code six six six.

1205
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: Wait.

1206
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So if you think about this from this

1207
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 3: old man's perspective, his father thinks his son is dead.

1208
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: He took his own life after failing a business and

1209
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 3: as a minister. But then his son calls him from

1210
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: the police holding. He seems frantic, seems off kilter, tells

1211
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 3: him he's not dead, not like he thought. But he

1212
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 3: also doesn't have any much more to say about all that.

1213
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 3: No apology, nothing like that. Also, no message for his

1214
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 3: wife or his family is said. He asked his father

1215
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 3: to call some strange phone number and to pass on

1216
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: a message. The message isn't words, no ope. Instead, it's

1217
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: just the number six sixty six, aka the number of

1218
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 3: the beast.

1219
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 4: If I'm the dad, I'm like, are you on the planet?

1220
00:59:59,280 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: Like what is he?

1221
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 6: Are you calling me from hell?

1222
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 3: So?

1223
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 6: So what's up with them sixty sixty six message?

1224
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 4: And who is he calling?

1225
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: Pedro? Yes?

1226
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 3: Elizabeth you're on it crime buddy Pedro number one in

1227
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 3: his family life. At this point, that's what the six

1228
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 3: six is meant for. It's a code. According to Leap Price,

1229
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 3: the code was some drug business. It meant run for

1230
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 3: your life, get rid of your phones. So there you go.

1231
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 4: And so he's got like his dad made the call.

1232
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: No, well, I'd love to tell you, like, you know, like,

1233
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 3: what what did his dad say when he heard this?

1234
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 3: I don't know that, but I do know his dad

1235
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 3: never made the call.

1236
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 4: Good for him.

1237
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 3: He's a former marine, family farmer. He hears his shag

1238
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 3: as Jim Price. The dad said, I didn't know what

1239
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 3: he was talking about. I couldn't do it. So he

1240
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 3: doesn't call Pedro.

1241
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 4: Hello, this is BEG.

1242
01:00:53,600 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: Six. So at this point the FBI gets involved. They

1243
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: searched Lee's mobile home there in Citra. They discovered the

1244
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 3: shed with the two hundred and twenty five pot plants,

1245
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 3: but that's not all they find. They also discover that

1246
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 3: Lee Price has equipment to make fake identification cards. Of course,

1247
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 3: he also has all of his equipment for cocaine trafficking,

1248
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 3: like a triple beam, scale, grinders, sifters. I assume that

1249
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 3: he's cutting his cocaine. So he's got the sifters anyway,

1250
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 3: FBI special Agent Ed Suckcliffe, but some diss all our brothers. Succincly,

1251
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 3: it was like classic drug stuff. He was living that life.

1252
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: Drug stuff.

1253
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 3: Especially Ed Suckcliffe also rather neatly summed up the arc

1254
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 3: of Lee Price's life up to this point, saying it

1255
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 3: went from a clean cut preacher, an investment advisor, to

1256
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 3: weed grower and prostitutex scort. So, Elizabeth, it's a lot

1257
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 3: of like a modern day biblical tail, the prodigal coke dealer.

1258
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 3: So now that he's alive, what happens to all of

1259
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: his ripped off financial clients? So a special agent Ed

1260
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: Suckcliffe he also had something to say about that, and

1261
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 3: I quote, he will tell you he made all those

1262
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 3: risky investments trying to earn back his client's money. He

1263
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 3: will tell you he still considers himself a religious person

1264
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 3: who prays for his victims by.

1265
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 6: Name every day.

1266
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 3: Like any good con man, you want to believe what

1267
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: he is saying is true, but in the end the

1268
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 3: words don't match the actions, And then you think about

1269
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 3: the victims that were left with nothing.

1270
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 2: Thank you, right, thank you?

1271
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: When I was reading about this story, I kept thinking

1272
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 3: about Special Agent Ed and thinking, this guy gets it.

1273
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:32,479
Speaker 6: I love the quote.

1274
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 3: Like any good con man, you want to believe what

1275
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 3: he is saying is true. But in the end, the

1276
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 3: words don't match the actions because we know how so

1277
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: often that's what it boils down to. Just like how

1278
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 3: you will know a tree by its fruit, you will

1279
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: know a person by their actions. Words are easy to

1280
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 3: say or to fake, so keeping a standard of action,

1281
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 3: though over time that's difficult, that's how you can know

1282
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 3: who a person was. Anyway, back to Special Agent Agent

1283
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 3: Ed Suckliffe of the FBI's Atlanta Field office. He goes

1284
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 3: around to personally interview as many of the victims aka

1285
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: his former clients, his former friends, his former congregants, and

1286
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 3: his church. His Special Agent Ed says, it's unbelievably sad.

1287
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 3: Most of prizes victims had worked thirty or forty years

1288
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 3: to save for retirement. They were living off those funds.

1289
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 3: They had to learn from us that price. Their friend

1290
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 3: and advisor was missing, and all their money was gone.

1291
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 3: And I'm talking all their money.

1292
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 6: Remember do I get my annuity check?

1293
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, seventy million or something was he was taking like.

1294
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 3: Old people's like annual annuity checks, so they they're having

1295
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 3: like a widow and no longer has a retirement fund.

1296
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: It's like very like than it requires a lot of forgetting.

1297
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 3: So what about punishment for Lee Price? What happens once

1298
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 3: the legally declared dead man comes back to life like Jesus,

1299
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 3: only he has to face a judge about his many

1300
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 3: crimes and the judge is not his dad god Well,

1301
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 3: US District Court Judge b Avante Edenfield or Edenfield presides

1302
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 3: over this trial. All right, and Lee Price is nearly

1303
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 3: seventy million dollar ponzi scheme doesn't take the judge and

1304
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: long to say guilty, and he's ordered, or rather, Lee

1305
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 3: Price is ordered to pay forty seven million dollars in

1306
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 3: restitution good luck, which seems like a lot of money

1307
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 3: for him to pay back.

1308
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and make it he rides a biker around town.

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Speaker 3: It's the judge gonna let him go back to selling

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Speaker 3: cocaine because other way he ain't gonna make this ubble. No,

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Speaker 3: But in terms of other punishment, Lee Price also gets

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Speaker 3: convicted and sentenced the thirty years in prison, which is

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Speaker 3: really going to mess up the restitution plan.

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Speaker 6: That is, he's making like three cents on the on

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Speaker 6: the hour.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So when he's in court, Lee Price is no longer

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Speaker 3: the crime buddy of Pedro. He's back to being a

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Speaker 3: clean cut guy. He looks basically like a former biker

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Speaker 3: turned Baptist preacher, you know, okay, And he tells the

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Speaker 3: judge problem is, we didn't know some things about the bank.

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Speaker 3: Some things were hidden from us. Oh that was he

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Speaker 3: played ignorance.

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Speaker 4: That was the old that's that was the thing that

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Speaker 4: went wrong.

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Speaker 2: And then after that it was totally out of his hands. Yes,

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Speaker 2: there was nothing that could be done. One of those

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Speaker 2: butterflies effect flat. They didn't tell us that he had to.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I was too ignorant.

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Speaker 3: To do what I'm doing. That's not my fault. So

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Speaker 3: he says, this whole multimillion dollar fraud thing, you know,

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Speaker 3: not his fault. In a very Southern Christian way. Lee

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Speaker 3: says he wants to turn the page and to get

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Speaker 3: to the forgiveness part as fast as he can. He says,

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Speaker 3: my story will be about restitution. The only life I

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Speaker 3: have left his future life, the past is gone, so

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Speaker 3: let's not talk about so in prison, Lee Price finds

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Speaker 3: great solves in two books. The first is the Bible,

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Speaker 3: because duh, it's a book.

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Speaker 2: He knows well, break he didn't read the Another.

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Speaker 3: Book is The Inglorious Fugitive, his unpublished prison memoir.

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Speaker 2: He keeps saying unpublished, and that gives me such happiness.

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Speaker 6: No, I like to typically think of the Bible.

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Speaker 2: It makes me wonder, how did you get it? It

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Speaker 2: was in the article.

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01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: The article the person who interviewed had just huge swaths

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Speaker 3: because the writing was just so much fun to make

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Speaker 3: fun of it. Yeah, yeah, like well like to basically

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Speaker 3: do a lot of people like, at least to me,

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Speaker 3: the Bible is just this niche mash of a book, right,

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Speaker 3: Like there's the first part, which is like this historical

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 3: adventure story, and then there's the latter half, which is

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Speaker 3: like the coming age story of like a soulful magician,

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Speaker 3: and then like the book ends with like the dictation

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Speaker 3: of someone's bad trip on d MT.

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Speaker 6: It's a wild book.

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Speaker 2: That's the talk that gets you sent to detention totally.

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01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 3: What do you think so much time or jug did jesuit?

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01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:25,919
Speaker 2: I just under god burnette, I just chalk.

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01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 3: I've had rulers, I mean you name it. I've been

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01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 3: hit or thrown thrown at me. Now to a lot

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Speaker 3: of people, the Bible, obviously, is also the world's greatest

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Speaker 3: self help book. It's his book of tests and trials

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Speaker 3: and redemptions and salvations. And I think that's kind of

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01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 3: how Lee Price viewed his memoir as a self help

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01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 3: book filled with tests and trials and redemptions and salvations.

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Speaker 3: So he uses his own trials as a sort of

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Speaker 3: like testimony, as an example for the reader.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now you know.

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Speaker 3: As far as his impossible forty seven million dollars in restitution,

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Speaker 3: the man formerly known as Gator says, the day of restitution,

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Speaker 3: that's the day I'm dreaming of. I don't want anyone

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Speaker 3: forgive me to I pay them back now his plan

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01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 3: to pay them.

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Speaker 4: Back away, I'm dying to hear with this.

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01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 6: How does he expect to raise that kind of capital?

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Speaker 3: Well, as a reporter from a Lanta magazine tells us,

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01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 3: he is working on his book and talking to the

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01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 3: literary agent and the scriptwriters. Maybe his incredible story will

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01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 3: make money for all those he's wronged. Another one, the

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01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 3: screenplay is gonna make a movie.

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01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: He just wants to direct.

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01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 6: He's forty seven million dollars.

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01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 4: I want to go to the jam.

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01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 2: I want to go to the prison, and like he'll

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01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: be behind the bars and I'll say, is that the

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01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: only copy of the manuscript? And he'll say, yeah, I'll

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01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: bit pass it through here.

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01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 4: I want to read it from all.

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01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 2: Then I get out a lighter and I have set

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01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 2: it on fire and look him dead in the eyes

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01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: while it burns, and he freaks out.

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Speaker 3: Also, by the way, since movies are dying, what are

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01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 3: criminals going to do? Once we stop making movies? The

1395
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 3: lives are going to be meaning so this way, so

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01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 3: he has other options for his future? Has the man

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01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 3: formerly known as a diesel Palsill pointed out to a

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01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 3: reporter of Atlanta Magazine. Or I have to sit on

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01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 3: my just dye in prison, not help anybody. I can

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01:07:58,480 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 3: do that.

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01:07:58,920 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 4: Oh what do you see the future?

1402
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 3: I'm embarrassing myself, letting people know the sins of my life.

1403
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 6: I should get compensated the right way.

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01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 2: Oh, my.

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01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 4: Dear, good God to heaven.

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01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 3: You may be wondering what about his family, his dear

1407
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 3: wife Rebecca, his four kids. How did they react when

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01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 3: they find out he's alive and living in Northern Florida. Well,

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01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: Lee Price tells his wife that you quote, you need

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01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 3: divorce me and find a man who can help support them,

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01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 3: which is actually a blessing in disguise. Yeah yeah, but

1412
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 3: because his family is the faithful sort. When Lee is

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 3: in court for his trial, his family shows up and

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01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 3: tries to support him. His wife, Rebecca, and three of

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01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 3: his children. They reportedly quote showed little emotion and spoke

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01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 3: infrequently amongst themselves. They looked collectively like the resigned victims

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01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 3: of an emotional siege. Yeah yeah, and emotional siege is

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 3: really accurate.

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01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 4: I'm with whatever kid was like, it's better I am

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01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 4: not there.

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01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 3: Yes, Well, we don't know exactly what they were feeling because,

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01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 3: unlike Diesel aka Lee Price, they didn't speak with the press.

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01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 3: They had more dignity than that.

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01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm so glad they didn't talk to anybody.

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01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 3: Lastly, whatever happened to the earnest, dependable, likable kid whose

1426
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 3: tanage coach named a child after him.

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01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 4: It's been such a wild journey.

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01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 3: I guess somewhere along the way, Lee Price found that

1429
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 3: he wanted to enjoy his heaven here on earth, and

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01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 3: it involved cocaine, various sex workers, dance music, and of

1431
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 3: course Pedro riding a bike exactly as the light dips

1432
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 3: into the horizon. Now, I do have to also believe

1433
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 3: that becoming Gator or Diesel, whatever you want to call him,

1434
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 3: started long before he met his crime buddy Pedro, this

1435
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 3: was in him. He described it as the beast that

1436
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 3: was in him. I think, remember so, I think that

1437
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 3: he had a divided soul from the get and just

1438
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 3: hit it until eventually it came out. And when he

1439
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 3: had the chance to make money and get.

1440
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 2: Ready to at least he was able to destroy a

1441
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 2: lot of lives alone exactly.

1442
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 3: So what's the ridiculous takeaway here, Elizabeth?

1443
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 2: This guy he will be judged in the final judgments.

1444
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 2: Like I just I am so angry, Like he encapsulates

1445
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: so many things that just irritate the berjeebers out of me.

1446
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 3: Oh, I can tell you're like three colors of red rid.

1447
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 2: I just you know that what he's done to his family,

1448
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 2: when he's done to these people who trusted him, his

1449
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 2: absolute hypocritical, you know, godless use of God.

1450
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 4: You know all of this, and for what.

1451
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 3: And also how about this? He is a father who

1452
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 3: betrayed his family and his children, but he looks at

1453
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 3: God as his father who needs to always be there

1454
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 3: for him. And yes he's like that father. Yes, me,

1455
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 3: father knew.

1456
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 2: And then he goes back into his own fact.

1457
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 3: He goes to exactly. Yeah, like wow, so that's that's

1458
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 3: my Elizabeth is all the father son relationships.

1459
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's just like this notion that you

1460
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 2: can use faith as a get out of jail free

1461
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: card in this case, you know, literally it misses the

1462
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 2: point completely, and it's just it is the antithesis of

1463
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: what that faith is supposed to be.

1464
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 3: Our works.

1465
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you know, I don't care if people obviously

1466
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 2: like people drink and do drugs and about it. It's

1467
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 2: like whether it's recreationally and like I pray for those

1468
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: who have it as a struggle, right, But so I

1469
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 2: don't care about talking about like the absolute betrayal of

1470
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 2: people's trust and love is disgusting.

1471
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, agree, And the abandonment of affection, the betraying

1472
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 3: like like defenseless like widows and taking their future to

1473
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 3: fund your like weird egotistic financial.

1474
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 2: No self reflection none, you know, I say.

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01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 3: He wrote a he wrote a whole book and he

1476
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 3: still hasn't got anywhere near with So yeah, there you go.

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01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 4: You know, it's really nice to have something else to

1478
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:08,799
Speaker 4: be mad.

1479
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 3: Lazy Susan. I spun it around. How about this, Elizabeth?

1480
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 3: I took what was in front of you somewhere else.

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01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 2: This was great.

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01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 3: Thank you, so prettzy. You got to ridiculous takeaway. No,

1483
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 3: well you have a talkback for us. Let's hear it.

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01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 8: Did.

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01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: I lent you.

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01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 8: Y'all? I cannot tell you how much I howled how

1488
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 8: old out loud in my car when Elizabeth mentioned follow

1489
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 8: that Bird. I grew up with that soundtrack on an album.

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01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 8: My sister and I did a duet that the farm

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01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 8: Kids sing with Big Bird. I could do the whole

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01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 8: album if I didn't have just thirty seconds anyway, at delight,

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01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 8: Thank you. This is Rachel. Next time you're in Cleveland,

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01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 8: drinks are on me.

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01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 10: Yes.

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01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,520
Speaker 2: Follow that Bird is cinema.

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01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 3: It is. It is a great You and Martycorsese agree

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01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 3: on that. I love it.

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01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 2: To me, this is a cinema, and yes, I'll take

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Speaker 2: you up on it forever.

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01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 3: Yes, Hey, don't don't make fun of Cleveland. That's my job.

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01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 4: That was awesome. Thank you.

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01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 3: Yes, as always, you can find a line Ridiculous Crime

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Speaker 3: at Bluska Instagram and we have the account Ridiculous Crime

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Speaker 3: Pod on YouTube. Go check that out if you'd like

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Speaker 3: to listen. There we got you covered. We also have

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Speaker 3: fun time and obviously we do always look forward to

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Speaker 3: your talkbacks, so please.

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Speaker 6: Go to the iHeart app, download it, leave it talk back.

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Speaker 3: you'd like, you can go the old older school route

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Speaker 3: and email us if you like at ridiculous Crime at

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Speaker 3: gmail dot com. We've been getting some good ones, thank you,

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Speaker 3: and uh we even had some couple of great show ideas,

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Speaker 3: so really appreciate that. And uh yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 3: As always, thank you for listening, and we will catch

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Speaker 3: Jabari Davis. Our theme song is by the Bandit and

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Speaker 3: the Snowman aka Thomas Lee and Travis Dutton. The host

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Speaker 3: wardrobe provided by Bonnie five hundred, guest hair and makeup

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Speaker 3: by Sparkleshott and mister Andre. Executive producers are Burt Reynolds

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Speaker 3: stunt Man in Gator, Ben Bolin and Burt Reynolds stunt

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Speaker 3: driver in Smoking The Bandit three, Noel.

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Speaker 5: Brown, Ridicous Crime, Say It One More Time Ridiquious Crime.

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. Four more podcasts

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Speaker 1: from heart Radio visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or

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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows.