1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Sophia Bush here. Welcome to Work in Progress, 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: where I talk to people who inspire me about how 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: they got to where they are and where they think 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: they're still going. Listeners, I am so excited, honored. I'm 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: just thrilled for you to hear my conversation today with 6 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: journalists and them the award winning television producer my friend 7 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Jamale Smith. Through his work, Jamille explores a range of 8 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: political and cultural topics, including national affairs, race and racism, politics, identity, 9 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: police brutality, feminism and gender roles, and pop culture. Jamille's 10 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: career has been nothing short of incredible as a journalist 11 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: and a commentator. Has been featured in The New York Times, Esquire, 12 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: The Washington Post, Huff Post, and the Los Angeles Times, 13 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: among others. He served as a senior editor at The 14 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: New Republic, launching and hosting the magazine's first podcast, Intersection, 15 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: and he was a senior national correspondent in MTV News. 16 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Jamille also worked as a segment producer for NFL Films, 17 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: earning him three Emmy Awards, after which he went on 18 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: to join MSNBC, serving as a producer for both The 19 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow Show, and Melissa Harris Perry. Currently, Jamille is 20 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: a senior writer for Rolling Stone Magazine, where in addition 21 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: to his regular columns, he profiles countless notable individuals, including 22 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: United States Senator and vice presidential candidate Kamala Harris, Representative 23 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: John Lewis, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, and Georgia gubernatorial 24 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: candidate Stacy Abrams. His reporting at Rolling Stone has been 25 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: some of the most profound learning of my adult life. Today, 26 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm sitting down with Jamille to discuss the depths of 27 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: our country's politics and culture, the Black Lives Matter movement, 28 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: the current climate in America, what it would really mean 29 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: for us to love each other a little more and 30 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: so so much more enjoying. We began this talk in April. 31 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: We were I don't know, five or six weeks into 32 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: the stay at home orders and the beginning of the 33 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: coronavirus really ravaging America. And as we were getting ready 34 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: to air this episode, the world shook. George Floyd was 35 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: killed by the police, and we thought, we we can't 36 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: have had this conversation about, uh, the experience of black 37 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: and brown people in America, about women in America in 38 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: the midst of George Floyd and Brianna Taylor and not 39 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: address what's happened to them, And as the summer would 40 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: have it, this keeps happening. We have seen increases in violence, 41 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: increases in racism coming out of the White House, increases 42 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: in dangerous rhetoric. We have just witnessed Jacob Blake be 43 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: shot in the back seven times while trying to get 44 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: into his vehicle. UM, and the rhetoric coming out of that, 45 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: the the ugly defense of the indefensible UM. And now 46 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse, a seventeen year old white supremacist terrorist being 47 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: excused by much of our media after he murdered two people. 48 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: These are things that we have to address and talk about. 49 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: So I'm really thankful, um, not only for my friendship 50 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: with you, Jimian, but that you were willing to regroup 51 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: to talk about what's been going on, to to talk 52 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: about the pain of it and also the history being 53 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: made Kamala Harris being our first woman of color who 54 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: is the vice presidential nominee of a major political party. UM, 55 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: not the first woman of color who's a who's a 56 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: vice presidential nominee interestingly enough in history, but UM of 57 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: a of a major political party, not an independent or 58 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: or you know as many of us talk about quote 59 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: third parties. Um. And and so we are we are 60 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: in this moment of really seismic shaking as a nation, 61 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: and I just want to check in. How are you? Oh? 62 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: I am a lot. I feel like that's the way 63 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,119 Speaker 1: to put it. Uh. You know, we all contain multitudes, uh, 64 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: as Whitman wrote, And I really do think that you know, 65 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: there are various emotions um in states that we just 66 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: vacillated between all day long. That can you know, be 67 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: due to something we saw on social media. It can 68 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: be due to the latest conversation with our parents where 69 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: they need the event about what's going on in the 70 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: world because they have seen Jim Crow, they have seen um, 71 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, the civil rights movement. They have seen these 72 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: advances uh in their lifetimes, and they know how hard 73 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: it is to make them and how you know, really 74 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: urgent it is that we address the fact that they 75 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: these games are being reversed with much speed and uh 76 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: and recklessness. Uh. And not just by this administration. I 77 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: mean we are reversing them sometimes are in action by 78 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: our silence. And we need to make sure that we 79 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: keep speaking up. I think something when we speak about 80 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: the Jim Crow era and gains being reversed, one of 81 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: the things that that seems to be the most blaring 82 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: alarm right now is the fact that all of our 83 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: Voting Rights Act protections have lapsed. We're witnessing historic voter suppression. 84 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: And while it's lovely that we're having conversations about perhaps 85 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,559 Speaker 1: renaming the Edmund Pettis Bridge uh In in the wake 86 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: of John Lewis is passing, what feels to me like 87 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: a better way to honor his legacy is to reinstate 88 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 1: the Voting Rights Act, the the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, 89 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: to to make sure that every single person in this 90 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: country can access their constitutional right to vote, that that 91 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: is not dependent on your race or your economic status, 92 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: which is an egregious violation of the Constitution itself. And 93 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: so I I wonder, in addition to that issue, or 94 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: or maybe not in addition to I wonder what specifically 95 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: about voter suppression and the new Jim Crow feels like 96 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 1: a sticking point for you right now? The sticking point 97 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: for me, Sophie, is the fact that it has become 98 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: normalized we Republicans to do these things, and therefore we 99 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: become numb to it. We see Trump and the post 100 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: most not. We see Trump in the postmaster General, uh, 101 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: snapping up mailboxes and coming up the works of the 102 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: postal service. And we recognize that as voter suppression, mainly 103 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: because I feel like it affects all of us. It 104 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: is affecting black people, white people, indigenous people, uh, Latinos 105 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: and Latinos, I mean, we are all being affected by this. 106 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: Whereas there are still disproportionate effects even within this postal 107 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: service effort. There are still these other regular sort of 108 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, running the mill voter suppression things that are happening, 109 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean more than the double states new restrictions uh 110 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 1: to you know, make make it harder for people to 111 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: vote and in particular environment, I mean, we we have 112 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: to take that especially seriously because really going to vote 113 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: in person uh literally means risking your life at this point, 114 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: upon spending upon where you you cast your ballot. And 115 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: I think that what we need to understand as a 116 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: country collectively is that voter suppression of particular groups uh 117 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: leads to uh, you know, frankly worst outcomes for everyone. 118 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: If you have you know, a particular area that is, 119 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's more carcynogens and less money flowing into 120 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: it and all these different things. Uh, then you are 121 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: going less representation overall. You are going to see that 122 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: areas suffer, and that suffering is going to spread throughout 123 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: the cities. Uh, and it's going to spread throughout other 124 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: kinds of municipalities. People need to understand how much we 125 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: are all in this together and and that is that's 126 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: the foundation of the American project. We're all here. But 127 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: at the same time, we have to understand that even 128 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: when these I'd say, well, let me, let me put 129 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: it this way, the Trump administration, I'd say, if there's 130 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: anything one good thing that has come out of it, 131 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: it's only one. Really, is that everyone has gotten a 132 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: taste to some degree, even if it's just a little 133 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: of what it is like or what it has been 134 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:13,479 Speaker 1: like for marginalized populations to endure discrimination, to dore quote suppression, 135 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: to endure basically, you know this the spreading of dis plague. Uh. 136 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: You know, disproportionate amounts of disproportion amounts of COVID yes 137 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: are being diagnosed in our communities. That being said, I 138 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: mean we have to understand that it's a you know, yeah, 139 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: everyone's getting a taste of it. Um you understand that 140 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: this is what it feels like, even if it's just 141 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of aggravation or inconvenience or tragedy. This 142 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: is what it's been feeling like for marginalized people, African Americans, 143 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: indigenous folks, lgbt qes, depending upon the offense. This is 144 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: what it's been like for us. And yeah, we're really tired, 145 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: we're exhausted, were mentally spent. And just when we thought that, 146 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, okay, we can focus on the election, and 147 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: we can focus on getting Trump out well, and Jacob 148 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: Blake gets shot seven but times in the back reeler 149 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: and the shot other times. I mean, these happening, and 150 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: when they get normalized, when police file normalized, voter especially 151 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: gets normalized, start not to pay nearly as much attention, 152 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: and we start not to care. And we start and 153 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: when you start not to care, we're starting not to 154 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: make time in your day to make, you know, to 155 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: take action towards any of those things. Then you know 156 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: that is exactly what the comfortable and the powerful want. 157 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, it is, it's tiring, but we have to 158 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: make sure we stay attitude, And there's a couple of 159 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: things I need to say to people listening, And I 160 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: hope that what I'm about to go off on can 161 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: arm you with some facts when you are arguing or 162 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: debating these issues, because I do get a lot of 163 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: messages from you guys, and I so appreciate this audience. 164 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: You will say to me, how do I debate this 165 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: with my dad who's a Trump voter? How do I 166 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: talk to my aunt who voted for this guy? How 167 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: do I how do I do this? And I'm going 168 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: to take a moment because it's incredibly important that the 169 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: explanations of the double standards that black life experiences in 170 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: America do not fall consistently as emotional labor on our 171 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: black and brown friends. So I'm not going to ask 172 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: Jamal to explain this to you. I'm going to explain 173 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: something to you. When we talk about George Floyd, a 174 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: man who was suspected of perhaps using a forged twenty 175 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: dollar bill. We never even heard if that happened. By 176 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: the way, we don't know that that was a fact. 177 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: But here's what I'm gonna tell you. Poverty shouldn't be 178 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: a death sentence. And the folks who were saying, well, 179 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: he had a criminal record, Well, look at these things 180 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: that he did. I'm going to rebut that and say 181 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: he was also a father, He was also a friend, 182 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: He was also a beloved person to the people in 183 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: his life. And when the folks in your life say, well, 184 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: he had a criminal record, what I'd like you to 185 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: say to them is so does the president. The president 186 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: of the United States, the man who currently sits behind 187 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: the resolute desk, has been charged with and convicted a 188 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: fraud on multiple accounts, has had to pay tens of 189 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: millions of dollars in damages to the people he's defrauded. 190 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: He has been accused credibly of sexual assault and rape 191 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: by twenty six women, women who have evidence, women who 192 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: told other people what happened to them at the time. 193 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: So the double standard of well, some people are allowed to, 194 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, do bad things, and then they learn and 195 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: then they can do anything that they want when they 196 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: become a nicer person, include be the president. If that 197 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: applies to your guy, if he's your guy, that has 198 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: to apply to George Floyd. Next up, we're going to 199 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: talk about Brianna Taylor. Brianna Taylor, Jamal's incredible piece. Uh, 200 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: if you haven't read it, please do. In Rolling Stone 201 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: titled Brianna Taylor Was Always Essential is an incredibly profound 202 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: piece of writing and highlights something really important, whereby Black 203 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: people who get killed have to be sainted essentially in 204 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: their memory to be valid in society. Brianna Taylor would 205 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: have been a valid woman whether she was an e. 206 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: M T or not, whether she was a first responder 207 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: fighting on the front lines of COVID or not, but 208 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: she was. And the fact that a woman who was 209 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: also a first responder was executed by the police in 210 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: her home, in her bed, and people have said to us, well, 211 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: her boyfriend had a gun. Here's what I'm gonna tell you. 212 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: I own a gun. I'm enraged that the other Second 213 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: Amendment folks who say we've got to have guns, this 214 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: is our right, we need to be able to defend 215 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: our homes have been signed ellen on this. Why am 216 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: I enraged, I'm gonna tell you because Brianna Taylor and 217 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: her boyfriend were asleep in their bed in the middle 218 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: of the night and their door got broken down. No 219 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: one knocked and said, hey, it's the police, let us in. 220 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: When their door was busted down. The cops didn't say police, 221 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: hands up, They just broke their door down. So Brianna 222 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: Taylor's boyfriend, like anyone would do, like I would do, 223 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: thinking his home was being broken into by a group 224 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: of people, fired a warning shot to let that group 225 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: of people know he was armed, which is legal, that's 226 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: his Second Amendment right, and to say get out of 227 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: my house. This is not the house you want to 228 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: rob tonight. And those those burglars turned out to be 229 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of cops who opened fire on Kenneth and Brianna. 230 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: She was shot eight times in her bed. The double 231 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: standard should make you nauseous. It makes me nauseous that 232 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: people have been unwilling to acknowledge the fact that an 233 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: American was simply exercising his constitutional right to defend his 234 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: home and his girlfriend was killed. And everybody says, well, 235 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, the guy shouldn't have fired a gun. If 236 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: that happened to me, If that happened to me, if 237 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: the police broke down my door did not announce themselves, 238 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: I thought they were a burglar or a stalker, because 239 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: I've got a few of those, and if you follow 240 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: me on social media, you know that. And I fired 241 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: a shot to say, hey, motherfucker, not today, I have 242 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: a gun, and then I was executed in my bed. 243 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: I promise you would be up in arms about it. 244 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: Next up, when we talk about Jacob Blake, a father, 245 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: a good Samaritan who saw a fight happening on the 246 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: block and said, you know what, no, no, this need 247 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: not happen. I'm not going to drive by what's happening 248 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: on the sidewalk and show my kids that I don't care. 249 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: So he pulled over and said, hey, guys, whatever it is, 250 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: this isn't worth it. Don't hit each other, don't do it, 251 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: don't get the car is called on you. Our communities 252 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: aren't safe when the police come here, which, by the way, 253 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: if that agitates you, look it up. Data proven black 254 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: people are less safe no matter what when they have 255 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: interactions with the police. This is a fact. You may 256 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: not like it. I don't like it either, but it's true. 257 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: Jacob Blake pulled over to try to stop a violent 258 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: altercation from happening, and the cops showed up because a 259 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: neighbor had already called, and he said, I did my duty. 260 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm getting in my car. The cops tried to stop him, 261 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: and he said, I don't have anything to do with this. 262 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: I came to break it up. My children are in 263 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: the car. This is getting scary for them. I'm gonna 264 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: get in the car with my kids. And he just 265 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: kept walking away and explaining why he was not going 266 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: to stop. And when he opened the front door of 267 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: his vehicle, he was shot in the back seven times, 268 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: seven times at point blank range by the people who 269 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: his taxpayer dollars pay to serve and protect him. And 270 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: the audacity of people who now say, well, there was 271 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: a weapon in the car, there was a gun in 272 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: the car, there was a knife in the car. There 273 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: wasn't a gun in the car. There was a knife 274 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: in the car. Do you know where it was? Under 275 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: his floormat? Having lived in the Midwest, I can tell 276 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: you that nearly everybody I've encountered there keeps a knife 277 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: under their floormat. I can also tell you, having lived 278 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: in Texas, that a whole lot of people in Texas 279 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: have rifle racks set up against their back windshields of 280 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: their trucks, guns out in the open. This is not 281 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: a reason to kill someone a knife that a police 282 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: officer could not see, because it was covered by the 283 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: floormat of a vehicle is not an excuse to kill someone. 284 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: As a person who's been through both police boot camp 285 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: with a city municipality and state SWAT training, I can 286 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: tell you it is patently against training for officers to 287 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: shoot someone in the back. The only reason you are 288 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: ever to fire your weapon is if you fear for 289 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: your life. You cannot fear for your life because someone 290 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: is walking away from you, not obeying your screaming commands 291 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: at them to stop walking, and you do not have 292 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: the right to execute that person because they prioritize getting 293 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: in their car and telling their children everything is okay 294 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: while a bunch of police have their guns drawn, rather 295 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 1: than turning around and talking to those police officers who 296 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: have their guns drawn, this is not okay. I am angry, 297 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: I am heartbroken, and I'm fucking pissed at people who 298 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: look like me who are trying to justify our law 299 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: enforcement executing our neighbors. This is not okay. It is 300 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: not okay. And I don't know how to not be angry, 301 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: and I don't know how to not be in tears 302 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: over this anymore. This is not okay. And black people 303 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: and brown people have been sharing these things with us 304 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: for literal generations, and it has taken so many of 305 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: us seeing these things happen on video. It has taken 306 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: black and brown pain being turned into trauma porn on 307 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: the internet for us to go, oh my god, this 308 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: is really bad. We saw the photos of John Lewis 309 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: getting his skull cracked open, marching over that bridge in Selma. 310 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: We saw the photos of the freedom writers. We saw 311 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: we saw the video of white women, women who look 312 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: like me, chanting the N word at at Ruby Bridge 313 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: is a six year old girl walking into her classroom 314 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: having to be protected by the National guard. I have 315 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: to ask us us, all of us, me included, every 316 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: single person listening, what is wrong with us? What is 317 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: wrong with us? How have we allowed it to get here? 318 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: How have we, to Jamal's point, how have we normalized this? 319 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: How have we made the execution of our citizens a 320 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: partisan issue. We do not if a doctor kills someone, say, well, 321 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: not all doctors. Those doctors are removed from rotation. We 322 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: do not when a gymnastics coach assaults five hundred girls, 323 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: not young women, y'all underage women. I eat girls. When 324 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: he is a child molester, we don't say, well, not 325 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: all gymnastics coaches. He goes to jail. Why are we 326 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: doing this? I don't want to believe that the people 327 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: I would call if my home were broken into might 328 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: kill me. I don't want to believe that either, But 329 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: this is our reality. Why are we doing this? Why 330 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: are we making excuses? Why? Why do we tolerate being 331 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: lied to when the data shows us what the problem is. 332 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: Why don't we as a society say we are not 333 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: going to tolerate this anymore. We expect these systems to 334 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: be taken apart and put back together. Why that? That's 335 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: where I find myself. Why could any single person watch 336 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: four police officers put their knees in George Floyd's neck 337 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: and back and quite literally crush his cardiothoracic cavity, squeeze 338 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: the life out of his lungs for eight minutes and 339 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: forty six seconds, and dare to say, well, once he 340 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: had a drug problem. What the actual fuck does that 341 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: have to do with yah anything, with anything? These These 342 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: are things we have to talk about, and it cannot 343 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: solely be the responsibility of people like my friend Jamal, 344 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: who is sitting here on a zoom with me right 345 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: now to keep writing articles about to keep asking you 346 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: to see his humanity. This is not okay. H yeah. 347 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: And I just have to say I'm so grateful for 348 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: you because I am exhausted. I am not sleeping. I don't. 349 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: I haven't slept through the night in two weeks. I 350 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: I haven't slept through the night in a week. What 351 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 1: is time? Um? I am. I am emotionally shattered. And 352 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: I know that my experience and my sleeplessness and my 353 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: exhaustion and my feeling broken is proximal. I truly can't 354 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: imagine how you and so many of our friends are 355 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: feeling in an America that feels like this today. M 356 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: hm mm hmm. Yeah. First thanks. First I want to 357 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: say thank you, thank you for staying in the fight. 358 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for that sacred rage. Thank you. Um, it's 359 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: it goes, it goes in waves. Um, it really does. Um, 360 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: because the traumas that we have experienced already mm hmm 361 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: continue to be reopened. Uh. These scars are cut open 362 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: and then you know, yes they key Lloyd over over 363 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: and over again, but then they keep getting ripped out 364 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm sure people have seen um, you know, 365 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: old photographs of um of of slaves who have been 366 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: whipped um and you've seen the key Lloyds on their 367 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: back from where they have torn their skin open. And 368 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: that is something that you know, we feel, I feel like, uh, 369 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: if not physically for Jacob Blake or Trade Peleran or 370 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: any of these other victims of police violence. If we're 371 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: not um, you know someone who is experiencing this on 372 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: a physical level than we are experiencing on an emotional 373 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: and itsycho logical level. Uh. And these scars continue to 374 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: heal over slowly, but sometimes they have a chance to 375 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: they just keep getting ripped open. More skin is torn 376 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: off from on whatever I guess you might want to 377 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: call our mental being. And then we are left two 378 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: flow out for the public and hope that someone cares. 379 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: And we have to do this while occupied with the 380 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: stresses of life that everyone experience. I mean, you know, 381 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: going through a divorce while all this is happening is 382 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: been extra hard what I've had to do. And so 383 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: when you think about, you know, what other people are 384 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: going through, you know, I don't have to worry about 385 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: where my next meal is coming from. I'm thankful that 386 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: I have a secure living I am thankful that I 387 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,239 Speaker 1: have a car to drive, and I'm thankful that I 388 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: live in a city like Los Angeles, UM, where I 389 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: am not. You know, I personally am not going to 390 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: be threatened by an immediate future of the weather. Hm. 391 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: I live in Lake Charles, Louisiana, live in New Orleans, Louisiana. 392 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: I don't live in along the Gulf coast that is 393 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: being assaulted right now by hurricanes that we have allowed 394 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: to continue to build strength because of our inaction on 395 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: climate change. I have not lived in a place where 396 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: I feel immediately as threatened as some of my brothers 397 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: and sisters. But that I want to say this to 398 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: people who are in my position, do not excuse your pain. 399 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: Don't throw it aside simply because nobody else is going 400 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: through something worse. Yes, strong for them, and I summoned 401 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: that strength, frankly to do my job, but I and 402 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: to be I mean, I summoned that strength to do 403 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: my job, and I summar summoned it to be there 404 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: for my family. Um, because some of them have been 405 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: traumatized for by cops. Some of them have seen worse 406 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: than this. Some of them have experienced worse than this. 407 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: You know and we are all human. We all have 408 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: physical and psychic injury and psychological injuries. UM. We need 409 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: to tend to them as if they are injuries, and 410 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: do not dismiss them. If you can, if you have 411 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: the wherewithal to do so, get therapy. UM. It's UM. 412 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: I want to emphasize vulnerability, such as what you just 413 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: showed us and what we're showing each other through our friendship. 414 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: The vulnerability UM is so essential because you have to 415 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: be unafraid of being wrong going to take progress for 416 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: all of us. I am wrong, I've been wronging in 417 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: right writing, I've been wrong my speaking. But you have 418 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: to be horrible enough and secure enough to understand that 419 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: you being wrong is not the point. You being wrong 420 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: is not the point. What is the point is? Do 421 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: you learn from it? Can you learn from it? And 422 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: you show UM that learning or demonstrate that learning in 423 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: constructive fashion? And sometimes that construction is sitting down and 424 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: listening constructive fashion. Sometimes that constructive fashion, it's sitting down 425 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: and listening. Sometimes it is action, but you will figure 426 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: it out. Just ask questions, be open, be vulnerable, because 427 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: if you are on guard about all of that stuff 428 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: all the time, it will eat at you, and we 429 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: won't not benefit potentially from what you could have contributed. 430 00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: That goes for people every color and creed. So my 431 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: hope is that we can see what is happening in Wisconsin. 432 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 1: Uh we're here, the news about him being about Jacob 433 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: Blake being handcuffed to a bed even though he is paralyzed. 434 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: I just, I just that tells me so much about 435 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: America right there, that you know, him walking away for 436 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: the fear of God and somebody enough to the point 437 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: where boom boom boom, boom boom and and or or 438 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: or let me let me actually rephrase that it him 439 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: walking away was so scary in some way, whether it 440 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: was actually about him causing real fear, or his blackness 441 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: presents a threat. These very existence presents a threat to 442 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: that officer. I don't know. What I do know is 443 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: that we need to have systems that make that kind 444 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: of action impermissible unacceptable in this society. And you know, 445 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: people like that do not need to be police officers, 446 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: because we know even that they are makes me not 447 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: want to call the cops. And if I can't call 448 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: the cops if I need help, then the social contract 449 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: is broken. It's broken, and something I would like to 450 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: acknowledge is I do not believe. And I watched that 451 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: video by accident. I don't. I purposefully try not to 452 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: add to the clicks on things like that. And I 453 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: was following a Twitter Twitter thread and then there it was, 454 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: and and I thought, God, damn it. And then when 455 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: I had seen it, I thought, Okay, I've seen it, 456 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: so what I need to do now? And this is 457 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: so sad, I said to myself, I need to analyze 458 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: it so I know how to rebut the bullshit that 459 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: I know is coming. And so then I sat there 460 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: and I really watched it more than once, and it 461 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: was awful. And what I saw was not fear. What 462 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: I saw was rage at not being listened to. What 463 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: I saw was the kind of energy I've been on 464 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: the receiving end of from certain men who are so 465 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: angry that I don't obey, who want me to be 466 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: docile and obedient and sweet and to stroke their ego. 467 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: It was a a perversion of that same energy, which is, 468 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: I just gave you a fucking order obey me. I 469 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: saw that man be so angry that Jacob Blake continued 470 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: to completely passively and peacefully walk away from him, and 471 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: I would bet I would bet that he was saying, 472 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: I am getting back in my vehicle with my children. 473 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: I would bet that he just wanted those cops to 474 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: know I'm not here for this, I'm not doing this. 475 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't a part of this. I was breaking up 476 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: a fight. I'm getting in the car with my kids, who, 477 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: I would wager we're probably screaming by this point, little 478 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: children seeing a bunch of adults yelling and shouting and 479 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: pulling guns. That's terrifying. And for a father to simply 480 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: want to get back in his vehicle with his children, 481 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: that's not life threatening and that's not scary, so to 482 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: anyone who who even wants to offer the the potential 483 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: of Perhaps that officer was afraid, No, he wasn't. You're 484 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: not afraid of someone who is calmly walking away from you. 485 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: I saw that anger on his face when he reached 486 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: to grab Jacob's body and he just started shooting him. 487 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: You cannot shoot a person you are sworn to protect 488 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: for trying to get in their car with their kids. 489 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: You just can't. And by the way, cops aren't supposed 490 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: to kill guilty people either. They're not supposed to do that. 491 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: Dylan Ruf murdered a church full of people and was 492 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: taken peacefully. Kyle Rittenhouse is a domestic terrorist, by the way, 493 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: with a record, multiple multiple accounts of misdemeanors, and charges 494 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: for unlawful behavior, drug possession, all sorts of things. Nobody's 495 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: talking about that. This is not an argument I'm willing 496 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: to stand for. It's just not you do not. You 497 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: do not shoot a person in the back. If I, 498 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: a legal gun owner, shot someone in the back, who 499 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: let's say, let's say we go back to that potential 500 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: hypothetical example of what would happen to me if I 501 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: were in Brianna and Kenneth's situation. If somebody broke into 502 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: my home, I fired a warning shot, they went bush 503 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: at wronghouse and went to leave, and I shot them 504 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: in the back seven times. I would be charged with murder. 505 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: And I know that because I've been through sheriff's training 506 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: on when you can and cannot legally fire your weapon 507 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,959 Speaker 1: at an intruder in your home. It is illegal. There 508 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: cannot be a double standard. There cannot. And this is 509 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: actually the argument, this is what people are talking about 510 00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: in the in the the purposefully agitational phrase. Defund the police. No, 511 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean get rid of the police. What it 512 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: means is why why is half of the budget, the 513 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: entire budget of the entire city of Los Angeles given 514 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: to policing. People think the idea of defunding the police 515 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: sounds radical. We've been defunding education for decades. What if 516 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: we put money back into our schools, into computer labs. 517 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: What if we put money back into our park system. 518 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: What if we took some of the money that is 519 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: given to the militarization of our police forces against us, 520 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: and instead when you called nine one one, you would say, 521 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: do you have an emergency and need the police? Push one? 522 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: Do you have a mental health crisis and need a 523 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: social worker push to do you? Is there a a 524 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: fire to report, or a domestic violence issue or a 525 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: and you would simply push the key for what you needed, 526 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: and then the police would just do policing, and the 527 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: social workers would do the social work, and the firefighters 528 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: would fight the fires, and the list would go on. 529 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: We it doesn't have to be like this, and it 530 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: doesn't mean we're way doing a war on the cops. 531 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: It means we're asking them to stop waging more on us. Right, Yeah, 532 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: I think fear leads to anger number one. So when 533 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: when you think about that anger, the the get over 534 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 1: here boy, listen to me, I have authority that kind 535 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: of anger, right, it's kind of angry. You know. We 536 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 1: heard about, you know, in the from you know, from 537 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: overseers when they would oversee the enslaved um and considering 538 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: the roots of the profession of policing, Uh, it's really 539 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of slave catching, it's really not 540 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: all that uh far afoot from where that attitude stems from. 541 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: And so when we think about that man grabbing him 542 00:38:54,560 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: by the shirt before he fires the shots, I mean, 543 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's just an utter, casual, reckless disregard for 544 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: human life. And if you needed to get his attention, 545 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: if you needed to make him stop, it's just I 546 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: haven't had any training. I know how to I know 547 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: how to use a gun, but I've never had any 548 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: police training. But I sure it's heck know that there 549 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: are other ways to have done that. And so my 550 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: my thinking is this, when you fear blackness, when you 551 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: fear not having the authority over someone who looks like me, uh, 552 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 1: that can provoke violence and and then what we're seeing 553 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: large in our country right now, with the rise of 554 00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: white supremacist violence, with the rise of trumpets uh rhetor um, 555 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: that that feeds these attitudes for the same really, not 556 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: of these people. And that's the funny thing, not of 557 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: these people. They're not really actually benefiting from it. They 558 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: are just being made to feel like being white's superior. 559 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: And so even if my healthcare goes away, even if 560 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: my job gets wiped off the board, even if covid 561 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: um ensures that my small business never opens up again, well, 562 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,479 Speaker 1: at least I feel better than this black person over here, 563 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: this his fanic person over here, this indigenous person over there. Um. 564 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: And And we have to something also that you upon 565 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: that I really wanted to hit. We have to talk 566 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: about masculinity in this society and how it feels these 567 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: kinds of racist innocence. Because listen, there have been shootings 568 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: that have involved female cops killing black people. Happened in Oklahoma. 569 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: It's happened. Listen. I'm not saying that it is impossible, 570 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: but we see a lot of male rage in male 571 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: entitlement that frankly, you know, I'm a guy. I mean, 572 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: I've experienced what it's like to be indoctrinated into this 573 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: notion that you deserve more because you're a man or 574 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: a boy. And this is stuff we learned early and 575 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: it is something that has to unlearned and and we 576 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: have to take an active interest. Even if you think 577 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: you are the most liberal, uh progressive feminist dude out here, Okay, 578 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: you may think that you have a lot of unlearning 579 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: to do. I have un learning to do. I'm almost 580 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: forty five. I have unlearning to do. So we have 581 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: to take the approach that we have been fed a 582 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: lot of stuff in the society that sometimes isn't our phone. 583 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes we ingest it because we enjoy it. It makes 584 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: us feel better. And there are powerful people who are 585 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: willing to use that to maintain not your power, but 586 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: their power. Trump doesn't care about these people. He cares 587 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: maintaining his power, and he cares haining it really not 588 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,760 Speaker 1: so that he can serve the working man. He remember 589 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: he thought talking about I am your voice. That's what 590 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: he said the first uh time he was nominated for president. 591 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: And what has that voice brought them? Honey? Mean that 592 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: dead Americans from this place that he's willing to spread 593 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: openly and willingly and without any consequence, all for the 594 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: sake of appearing normal. And then he is, you know, 595 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: willing to let these problems fester whether or not he 596 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: wins or loses UM, because he has managed to build 597 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: a cult of personality and around himself, and whoptality says, Hey, 598 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: anything I do is alright, everything I do was fine, 599 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 1: Everything I'm doing is for you, and these people believe 600 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: this stuff. And it's the story, frankly, a white supremacy 601 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: in this country. I mean, it's it's how this stuff happens. 602 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: White supremacy does not feed, feed, or help all white people. 603 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: It helps the powerful white people, and people understand that 604 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: they actually have been left out of this con job 605 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: that he is operating. I don't know, maybe maybe I have. 606 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: That's the only thing that helps me maintain hope, UM, 607 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 1: and I hope that people. You know, I'm not looking 608 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: for people to all of a sudden switch their votes 609 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they're gonna be voting for Biden. 610 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 1: Not I'm not looking for that, because I understand how 611 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: alluring this white supremacy is. I'm not expecting this to 612 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: be cured immediately going on. Am hoping is that our 613 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 1: society can understand that these folks in the Republican Party 614 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 1: are pushing an agenda that serves tutocracy and supremacy. It's 615 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: necessary for that, but they are not out here caring 616 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: about folks who are struggling and present. You know, I mean, 617 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: he told he said that they should close the Lord's 618 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: Town Auto plant, which is right near where I grew 619 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: up in northern Ohio, because they wouldn't allow them to 620 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: wear his Maga hats at work. You want to close 621 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: a plant now in that area, you're talking about writing 622 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: a lot. It's talking about hurting a lot of working 623 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: class white folks and black folks and other folks all 624 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: who are working at this massive plant and that you know, 625 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,280 Speaker 1: and and you want to or you want to see 626 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: all these different things go go down, and then you 627 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: want to like claim victory because make you reopen something 628 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: that people don't even need. It's it's just that the 629 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: massive failure of governance that in this administration is astounding, 630 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: and I just really need people to understand that, you 631 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: know it is it is not really something that we're 632 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: going to recover from um easily, even if Biden is 633 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: elected and we need this is on us. And if 634 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: you are white, it's on you especially to fix racism. 635 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 1: If you are men, like I am for a man, 636 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: then it's on us to fix sexism and such. You know, 637 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 1: I again, I respect you saying you're you're not looking 638 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: for it to or you don't expect it to be 639 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: fixed overnight, or expect people to change their votes. I do. 640 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: I I desperately want us to reclaim some semblance of decency, 641 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: some semblance of willingness to look out for each other. 642 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 1: You know, I saw this great tweet from a comedian 643 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: who I love last week, and she said, not liking 644 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden as your candidate, So deciding you're not voting 645 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: is kind of like going to Trader Joe's and because 646 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,240 Speaker 1: they're out of dried mango, you throw yourself into oncoming traffic. 647 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 1: I was like, honestly, that's really great. You don't have 648 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 1: to be the most excited there is. There is a 649 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: real need for us to remember that it's not all 650 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: about us, it's about our country. And I know for 651 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: a fact, I've got friends, I've got family. You know, 652 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: I was in Oklahoma recently. There's a lot of people 653 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: who are afraid of what they're hearing from right wing 654 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,919 Speaker 1: media in the middle of the country about the progressives 655 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: and you know how how radical this is. And some 656 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: of our favorite leaders aren't that palatable to them, but 657 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is. And guess what. Donald Trump isn't palatable 658 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: to me, but he might have been palatable to some 659 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 1: of those voters who now are willing to vote for Joe. 660 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: And guess what that works for me? If we collectively 661 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: get a leader who works for more more of us 662 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: than not, that's our fucking job as citizens. And then 663 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: it's our job to get super active in local politics 664 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: to elect the kind of mayors and congress people and 665 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: senators who will hold Joe and Kamala accountable to being 666 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 1: better representatives for all of us. You know, people who 667 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: who shoot all over their records really upset me. Because 668 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: here's the difference. Trump will double down on his monstrous 669 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: behavior and say I can do whatever I want, and 670 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: Joe has said, you know what, we thought we were 671 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: doing the best we could with the information that we had, 672 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: and now we know better and we're going to do better. 673 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: And he does it over and over again. And that's 674 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: what I wanted a leader. There's nobody who's been in 675 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: politics since the seventies or the nineties, who hasn't been 676 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 1: a part of something that hasn't been that hasn't turned 677 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,879 Speaker 1: out great for us. That's not possible. The point is 678 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: to you to exactly what you said about yourself as 679 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: an individual. You can look at where you've made mistakes 680 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: in your writing, where you at the time we're telling 681 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: the truth and the best way that you knew it, 682 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 1: and said, Hey, I've since learned, and so I've changed 683 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: my mind. I've since learned, so I've gotten more specific. 684 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: That's that's the great power each of us has is 685 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: the ability to consistently evolve, be more educated, no more facts, 686 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 1: be more willing to hear about other people's experiences, and 687 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: be better to each other. So maybe it's crazy, maybe 688 00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 1: it's inappropriate, but absolutely I have an expectation. I I 689 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: want to launch a rallying cry for all of us 690 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 1: to show up and do the right thing, even if 691 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 1: it isn't our favorite thing, because not doing something, not voting, 692 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: not showing up, this is this is the moment where 693 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: democracy lives or dies. This is the moment where the 694 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: United States gets back on track to be held accountable 695 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: to live up to her ideals or we literally become Russia. 696 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: And we see the the quote enemies of the president 697 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 1: the progressive is the people who don't agree with him 698 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: wind up getting poisoned. They're already getting killed. We we 699 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: see elections like just happened in Belarus where the people 700 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: voted in a new leader and it doesn't matter because 701 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: the dictator said, no, I'm still the president. We either 702 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: become that or we we get back on track and 703 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: we get better. Those are our options. Yeah, I think 704 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: we really need to understand that everyone having to make 705 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: this progress that are both talking about that we both want, 706 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: we need only to embrace a a real collective sense 707 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: of critical thinking. We need to understand that critical thinking 708 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:18,760 Speaker 1: about ourselves, about this country, about everything that is happening, 709 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: from even the leaders that we vote in ourselves, the 710 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: leaders who we approve of, we need to be critical 711 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: about them. And that's one of the reasons why Frankly, 712 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 1: I love my job so much, because it's essentially it 713 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: pays you to learn and it pays you to be 714 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 1: critical of everybody. I mean, we're opposed to not mistrust people. 715 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: I think that's different than being a critical thinker. What 716 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: you were supposed to do is investigate. What you're supposed 717 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: to do is be a responsive citizen and be informed. 718 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: And I live by the bald would quote. You know, 719 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: I love America more than any other country in the world, 720 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: and exactly for this reason, I just on the right 721 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 1: to criticize her perpetually. It's my theater background. Yes, I 722 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:14,280 Speaker 1: just talked about this yesterday. Yes, it's my favorite. Yeah. 723 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: That to me is that that is the quote that 724 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 1: animates my work. That is the quote that keeps me going. 725 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: I do my retreat and I think that black people, frankly, 726 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 1: have shown their love for country more than almost any 727 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 1: other group. It's not a competition. I do think that 728 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: it's astounding the idea that or the suggestion that black 729 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: people demanding equal rights, demanding equal treatment under the law, uh, 730 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: and women in indigenous groups and all these different marginalized 731 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 1: populations doing the same thing for themselves is somehow a 732 00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: strike against America. It is we're speaking to prove this country, 733 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 1: we're seeking to have it. As Martin Luther King said, 734 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: it be true to what you said on paper, you 735 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: are ideals in this country, and well, only these people 736 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: get to take advantage of this ideal. Only these people 737 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 1: have the potential to fulfill that ideal within their lives, 738 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: within their within their existence. Here you, on the other hand, 739 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: do not. You have the opportunity to live up to 740 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: a certain point of the ideal. And if you're lucky, 741 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: maybe if you can run a fast forty, or you 742 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: can dunk a basketball, or you can uh, you know, 743 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 1: score hockey goals or what have you, then you are 744 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: able potentially two taste a little bit of it. But 745 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: when you leave that baseball field or that boxing ring 746 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 1: or whatever feel to play that you may be involved, 747 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 1: and then I can still pull you over, and I 748 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:05,799 Speaker 1: can instead of you would make And that is to 749 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: me the animating part of not just my word in 750 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: terms of way I try to do, try to make 751 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,240 Speaker 1: this push people who are in power to be better. 752 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 1: But I mean saw it this week with you know, 753 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: with the n A, n B, A, the A A, MLS, 754 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: MLB golf and tennis athletes saying hey, uh we can 755 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,359 Speaker 1: take a pause NFL practices. You know, got chick. I mean, 756 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 1: it gets spread. This is not going to stop. It's 757 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,879 Speaker 1: not going to be limited to August, of course, four 758 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 1: years to the day that Colin Kaepernick first took a 759 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: knee during a preseason game to protest in systemic racism. 760 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:53,880 Speaker 1: We are not going to see that end just on 761 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: that day. Yeah, and the layoffs may be back on 762 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: this weekend. But don't don't get it twisted. They have 763 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: made it clear that if I am displeased with the 764 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 1: state of this country, I will deprive you of my 765 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 1: entertainment and ugly and of the corporate profits that that 766 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,359 Speaker 1: entertainment provides. The irony of Jared Kushner having the nerve 767 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,240 Speaker 1: to say, well, it must be nice that the NBA 768 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: players have the money to where they can take a 769 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 1: day off. They're not taking a day off. They are striking. 770 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: And what they are doing is denying the profits they make. 771 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: Two corporate owners, corporate sponsors. They are creating a seismic 772 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: wave in our actual economy in that day, in that moment, 773 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: on the following days, it matters, because if all, if 774 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: all we seem to care about in this country is capitalism, okay, 775 00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 1: we can disrupt that. We we can absolutely put pause 776 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,959 Speaker 1: on that. And and you know it's also not lost 777 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: on me. I must just say that this might be 778 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,280 Speaker 1: good for the folks at home to who need again 779 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: the AMMO to argue, it's not lost on me that 780 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 1: Jared Kushner has the nerve to say that about a 781 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: bunch of professional athletes when he's literally the son of 782 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: a criminal billionaire whose daddy paid his way into college, 783 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: who then became the son in law of another criminal billionaire, 784 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: who has increased his personal wealth by one hundred million 785 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: dollars a year working in the White House, which is 786 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: a clear violation of the emoluments Clause. Uh. And the 787 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: fact that he has even given a position in the 788 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 1: White House despite having not passed a security clearance is 789 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 1: criminal nepotism. So he has no right to criticize people 790 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 1: who have made themselves the most elite athletes in the world, 791 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: using their power, spending their privilege to defend their community. 792 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: That man, that boy needs to sit down, shut up, 793 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: and perhaps learn how to disrupt a system that is 794 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: not working for people. Because if he perhaps put up 795 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: any form of protest in the White House, maybe his 796 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,320 Speaker 1: father in law wouldn't be behaving like a tyrant or 797 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 1: want to be king. But again, you know, and so 798 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: you have a guy and pushner who says it might 799 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 1: must be nice for these millionaires to take today, well 800 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,320 Speaker 1: would take in the last four years of off. And 801 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 1: and to your point about the cost to us, obviously 802 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: we're looking at a hundred and eighty thousand dead Americans, 803 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: which somehow right wing media has made acceptable too. Apparently 804 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 1: of Republicans they think that's okay. And this is the 805 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,919 Speaker 1: same media that called for Obama to resign when two 806 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: people died of Obola. I just want to put that 807 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 1: in context. We're we are now having a nine eleven 808 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,720 Speaker 1: every four days. That's how many Americans are dying. It's 809 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 1: it's insane. And when you talk about Trump being completely 810 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: derelict in his duty simply just taking time off. UM, 811 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: as of last July, Trump's golfing had costed Americans over 812 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 1: a hundred and ten million dollars in taxpayer money he golfs. 813 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: I believe it's one of every four or one of 814 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: every five days of his presidency UM a hundred and 815 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: five million dollars. The estimation that if he's reelected, his 816 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 1: golf trips will cost our economy three hundred and forty 817 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: five million dollars if he's the president for eight years. 818 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: And this is a man who had the nerve to 819 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: tell us that Obama was golfing, and he actually at 820 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: a campaign rally in sixteen talked about his golf course 821 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: in Miami and said, and I quote, I love golf, 822 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 1: But if I were in the White House, I don't 823 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: think I'd ever see Turnberry again. And I don't think 824 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: i'd ever see Doral again. I don't think i'd see anything. 825 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: I just want to stay in the White House and 826 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,920 Speaker 1: work my ass off. M So when people want to 827 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 1: say that supposedly, by the way, supposedly the president donates 828 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 1: his food dollar years salary, he's cost us a hundred 829 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 1: and ten million dollars. That was as of last year. 830 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 1: So where where do you think we are now? A 831 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars? I don't really care. And 832 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: Trump also supposedly ran a cancer charity, and then we 833 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 1: found out he took all the money and spent it 834 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 1: on himself. So I'm not really I'm not confident that 835 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: the man is donating his presidential salary to charity because 836 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 1: we know what that means to him. And so again, 837 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, when we analyze all of this stuff, you know, 838 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: top to bottom, you said it earlier, the system is broken. 839 00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: We need we need to we need to see each other. 840 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 1: And I know, for me, at least, I'm willing to 841 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: sit down with anybody. I'm willing to welcome anybody to 842 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: our side, anybody who says, you know what. I may 843 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 1: not know everything. I may not be right about everything 844 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: I know. I'm certainly not, by the way, but I 845 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 1: I want to be on the side of my neighbors, 846 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: of my community. I want to I want to figure 847 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 1: out how to make the things I love about America 848 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: the things that everyone can love about America. I want 849 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 1: to make sure that whatever privilege I have, everybody gets 850 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 1: to have it. Anyone who wants to do that, come 851 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 1: on over. You don't have to know everything. We're all 852 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: learning together all the time. But unless we really get 853 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 1: frank and specific in our language and in our acknowledgment 854 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 1: of what is happening, we are going to keep making 855 00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: excuses for the toxicity that poisons all of us. All 856 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 1: of us are at risk in a system like this, 857 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 1: And I share I share your hope. I truly do um. 858 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: I hope that there are people who understand the greater 859 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: purpose of America that America, yes, may have been founded 860 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 1: by you know a lot of you know slaveholding white men. Uh. 861 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: You know, it was largely built to reinforce their privileges 862 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 1: and their ability to maintain that institution. That being said, 863 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 1: there have been a lot of corrections since then, and 864 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 1: a lot of work and a lot of bloodshed to 865 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 1: make those corrections. Um, we cannot go forward thinking that 866 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 1: we're going to continue to need to see more bloodshed, 867 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 1: more bodies pile up in order to make change. Change 868 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 1: is easier than this. We can't make it easier if 869 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 1: we want to. As a but you know here, you know, 870 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 1: power is intoxicating. Racism is intoxicating for a lot of people, 871 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 1: certainly intoxicated. Um, and we need to, like you said, 872 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 1: get these toxins out, um, how we read them. I mean, frankly, 873 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,440 Speaker 1: I've been wrestling with this a lot, um because I've 874 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 1: interviewed Stacy Abrams a number of times, and you know, 875 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 1: I felt that, you know, in her race. I thought 876 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 1: that was like, Okay, there's a new pathway to victory. 877 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 1: It's not really about catering to you know, these these 878 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 1: these Obama Trump voters, These these people who stay there 879 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 1: on the fence, but actually when they go on the 880 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,439 Speaker 1: booth when everything's quiet, they end up pulling the lever 881 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 1: for the Republican UM, and they just can't see themselves 882 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 1: voting for say a black woman to beat up nerve Georgia. UM. 883 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 1: I think that, Yes, I think mobilizing as many people 884 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: on our side and animating them to you know, give 885 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: go forth and defeat this menace. Uh is I think 886 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 1: the priority. But yeah, I'll take converts, but they just 887 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 1: have to be like like I said before, critical thinkers, UM. 888 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 1: And it would be willing to understand that. You know, 889 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna make some mistakes and and that has to 890 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: be okay. And I think to your point, if we 891 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: can apply the same kind of willingness to be introspective 892 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 1: about our own lives. You know, we we are living 893 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 1: in a time where mental health and self care are 894 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 1: being acknowledged in better ways than ever. And so if 895 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 1: we talk about how do I take care of myself, 896 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: how do I analyze my experiences and whatever trauma I've 897 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 1: gone through, how do I how do I grow? How 898 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 1: do I be a better friend, lover, partner, daughter, son, parent, sibling, 899 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:20,280 Speaker 1: You know, we can do the same thing with how 900 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 1: we fit into America. We can acknowledge that to your point, yes, 901 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 1: A bunch of white men who owned slaves founded this country. 902 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 1: But in their ideation of what this country could be, 903 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: they actually saw past themselves, past their own limitations. They 904 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: sent goals for this place that were bigger than what 905 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 1: they were capable of seeing because of the time and 906 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 1: place and prejudice they were born in. And that's the 907 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 1: gift for us. That's how we hold both. That's how 908 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 1: we say, this is the way those men failed our ideals, 909 01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 1: and they also created them. That how you know me 910 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: and Brittany Packnick Cunningham, and Mina Harris can talk about 911 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 1: the the hundred anniversary of women's suffrage and acknowledge that 912 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 1: it was an immense win and also a failure because 913 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 1: it didn't protect all women both and the real way 914 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 1: to participate in society and also push it to be 915 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 1: better is to hold its incredible promise and inspiration and 916 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 1: success and also acknowledge the ways in which it falls short, 917 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 1: so that every year from now and hereafter we can 918 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,919 Speaker 1: push it to catch up for the falls. We can 919 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 1: make those falls smaller and smaller. We can create a 920 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 1: more equitable society. We can build a bigger table, We 921 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 1: can grow the economy, the irony here is that everyone's 922 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 1: in this scarcity mentality where they're scared that if women 923 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 1: get power, or black people get power, or brown people 924 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: get power, what's going to happen to them? And the 925 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 1: reality is that everyone just has more power, right zero. 926 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 1: It's truly not I mean simply in my experience as 927 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 1: a woman, just analyzing looking at the analysis and research 928 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 1: around the data that comes from what would happen if 929 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 1: women were actually paid equally to men. The United States 930 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 1: economy would grow by two trillion dollars. We wouldn't actually 931 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 1: be in this financial suffering. We wouldn't be trying to 932 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 1: figure out what we can afford as a country, because 933 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,439 Speaker 1: we'd be able to afford it all. So imagine if 934 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: every single person who has been held back was suddenly 935 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 1: made whole. Imagine the trillions and trillions and trillions of 936 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 1: dollars that our economy would be bigger. You know, there's 937 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,600 Speaker 1: there's quite literally enough for all of us. We can 938 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 1: grow it together. And that's why I lament quite a 939 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 1: lot about what a this might sound like an term 940 01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: to apply to it, but what a wasted opportunity unity 941 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:06,160 Speaker 1: the COVID has been Because here is a disease that 942 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 1: we can all catch, that we can spread like wildfire 943 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 1: if we do not collectively take action and sure that 944 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 1: we are protecting one another by wearing our maths, by 945 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 1: by being isolated, by staying at home, and being responsible 946 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 1: by not going to bars uh into into other places 947 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 1: of business that we have no business being in while 948 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 1: there is a raging you know, pestilence in our society. Uh, 949 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, it can wait, folks, it can wait. And 950 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 1: you would think that people would understand, hey, we have 951 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity here to have some to to have some healing, 952 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 1: because everybody can catch this. So it's not good if 953 01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 1: black people catch it's not good. If Latina and Latinas catch, 954 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 1: it's not good. If additions people catch this and it 955 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 1: spreads like wildfire in their communities. It's not good for 956 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 1: us because we could be around them, okay, and everyone 957 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 1: can be is around each other. So we should be 958 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 1: making sure that we are taking care of our neighbors. 959 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 1: But instead, what we've seen from way too many people, 960 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,919 Speaker 1: and we're getting back into how masculinely feeds us. We've 961 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 1: seen way too and in particular not wearing their masks 962 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 1: because I guess they feel like you know our our 963 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 1: chronomes protect us. I don't know. And like, no, men 964 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 1: are getting sick from this thing um and they feel 965 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,720 Speaker 1: like they just need themselves. Uh, you know the like 966 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,400 Speaker 1: we need to live our lives. Well, yeah, you can 967 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 1: live your life, just put a mask on. Put a 968 01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 1: fucking mask on, like I I no more. You know 969 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 1: from my parents are gonna hear that. No, right, But 970 01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 1: the point is is that upsetting? It is that upsetting. Uh, 971 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 1: you have with a chance to take at least the 972 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:20,200 Speaker 1: minimum amount of collective responsibility within this society. How art 973 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 1: is it to stay home and not do anything if 974 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 1: you have the privilege so and by the numbers, we 975 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 1: know that it is more white people who have the 976 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:36,559 Speaker 1: privilege to do this than people of Holler disproportionately throughout 977 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 1: this throughout our society. So if you cannot stay home 978 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 1: and put on a mask, and instead you feel the 979 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,759 Speaker 1: need to march into a stayhouse, for instance, where they 980 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 1: a high powered weapon of war and demand your right 981 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 1: to kill yourself and other people, then again the social 982 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:02,720 Speaker 1: contract is broken. How am I supposed to respect anything 983 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,800 Speaker 1: that those people are saying or offering to the economy 984 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 1: of ideas when they don't even care about my basic survival, 985 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 1: and I see it manifest not merely in their support 986 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 1: for for a particular candidate, or their encouragement of police violence, 987 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 1: or their exacerbation of discrimination in any particular arena. They 988 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 1: are showing it to me by not wearing a mask, 989 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 1: because that's really I mean it's it's become to me 990 01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:44,760 Speaker 1: a symbol of utter disregard for our lives if neither 991 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:50,760 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter put on a mask. M hm, yeah, 992 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,280 Speaker 1: it's it's no. The irony is not lost on me 993 01:09:54,360 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 1: that the anti mask crew has now hijacked uh, the 994 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:07,440 Speaker 1: women's phrase my body, my choice. I'm like, oh no, 995 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,599 Speaker 1: now it's your body, your choice. Is that really because 996 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 1: you tell you tell women they have no right to 997 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,519 Speaker 1: say that, But now you're saying, okay, okay, So again 998 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 1: we have work to do to eradicate double standards, and 999 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 1: I think they did when when when ideally would be 1000 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 1: all all about these mass well, they're also only pro birth, 1001 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,600 Speaker 1: their pro forced birth or not pro life, Because what 1002 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,000 Speaker 1: I realized a couple of years ago was that I 1003 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 1: was going to stop having this debate with anyone who 1004 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,360 Speaker 1: said to me, I am pro life and I am 1005 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 1: pro early childhood education access, paying for childcare, making sure 1006 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,960 Speaker 1: there is affordable rent, making sure there's food access for families. 1007 01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 1: I am pro increasing snap and welfare, and I'm I'm 1008 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,760 Speaker 1: pro making sure people can afford to have families. I 1009 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,040 Speaker 1: would respect those people. I've never met a single one. 1010 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,400 Speaker 1: I've never met a single person who says I'm pro 1011 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: life and also pro the social programming that makes life 1012 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,880 Speaker 1: livable and achievable for people. And so I just won't 1013 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,000 Speaker 1: debate it anymore. Yeah, if you if you say your 1014 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 1: pro life, pro safety net, you know I can be 1015 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,640 Speaker 1: automatically understand that you are not a person to be 1016 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:32,160 Speaker 1: taken seriously and and and at this point, we don't 1017 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:36,280 Speaker 1: have time to you know, I mean it's this face 1018 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 1: sound harsh. We don't have time and a lot of 1019 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:43,840 Speaker 1: ways to deal with people who are not serious in this. 1020 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,599 Speaker 1: This president is not serious, These these administration is not serious. 1021 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 1: It's all about building this false reality in which none 1022 01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,960 Speaker 1: of them are racist or sexist. I've never seen so 1023 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,960 Speaker 1: much time devoted to explaining that a person is not 1024 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 1: a racist or set system when obviously so much evidence 1025 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:08,800 Speaker 1: that you mentioned is to the contrary. And then, you know, 1026 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,200 Speaker 1: I just how am I supposed to take this opposition 1027 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 1: party seriously when that is the the gas lighting that 1028 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,679 Speaker 1: continues to flow out of their mouths. I just will, 1029 01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:26,960 Speaker 1: honestly to have an opposition party that I could take seriously. 1030 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 1: I would love to have with uh, you know, conservatives 1031 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,680 Speaker 1: where I know that hey, like, you know your for 1032 01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:40,000 Speaker 1: small government. That doesn't necessarily mean you're against my life. 1033 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 1: But conservatism has morphed into a to to to such 1034 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 1: a state that I I you know, they espouse these 1035 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,719 Speaker 1: positions that I know, at the end of the day 1036 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:58,120 Speaker 1: or against or contrary to my continued survival. And we've 1037 01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 1: got to again, we've got to we've got to tighten 1038 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,800 Speaker 1: it up, and we've got to write the ship. Because 1039 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:08,440 Speaker 1: if we could get back to a point where humanity 1040 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,640 Speaker 1: was not up for debate and we could simply debate policy, 1041 01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 1: we could debate financial funding for programs and figure out 1042 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 1: where things going. We could actually have healthy debate with 1043 01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,919 Speaker 1: people who have different opinions to actually get via critical 1044 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 1: thinking to the best possible outcome. That would be great. 1045 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,639 Speaker 1: That's the kind of opposition and debate I'm looking for 1046 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,679 Speaker 1: this who deserves to live and who doesn't? Who who 1047 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,439 Speaker 1: is a full human and who isn't you know, I 1048 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:46,400 Speaker 1: thought we got past that and and now it seems 1049 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 1: that we're back, and so we we have we have 1050 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 1: work to do. But what's good, though, my friend, is 1051 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 1: that you are learning that we are not past that. 1052 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 1: And not only you're learning that, you're not saying like, wow, 1053 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:03,080 Speaker 1: that's were bad and then going on with your day. 1054 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,000 Speaker 1: You are using your platform and you are using your 1055 01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 1: time two advance to educate yourself and to educate others. 1056 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 1: And that is one of the many reasons why our 1057 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,719 Speaker 1: friendship this year had one of these shining lights of 1058 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 1: a really really shitty So thank you right back at 1059 01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:34,880 Speaker 1: you man. Truly, I'm so grateful to have the relationship 1060 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 1: that we do and to be able to you know, 1061 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,000 Speaker 1: like d d M the funny political memes and also 1062 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,720 Speaker 1: talk about how we fix you know, the world, and 1063 01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 1: might encourage people to see each other a little more 1064 01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:51,880 Speaker 1: clearly and kindly and with more empathy. It's it's really 1065 01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,599 Speaker 1: something I cherished to have, you know, the friendships that 1066 01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,599 Speaker 1: our group of friends is so lucky to have, where 1067 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,639 Speaker 1: these are the ways that we love each other. It's 1068 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:08,720 Speaker 1: pretty special. Yeah, and so I think it's it's good 1069 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,800 Speaker 1: that we touch on love because I think, you know, 1070 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:14,680 Speaker 1: obviously we're not getting anywhere without that. And I know 1071 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,000 Speaker 1: it's sound odd for a journalist who writes about you know, 1072 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:23,040 Speaker 1: racism and you know sexism and the government all day, uh, 1073 01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 1: to want to talk about something like that. But you know, 1074 01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,560 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of love in my life, and 1075 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 1: I think gratitude is such an important part of my 1076 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:38,840 Speaker 1: day now. Um. And it hadn't been, uh, you know, 1077 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:43,559 Speaker 1: going through rough times this year, but I started my 1078 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,840 Speaker 1: year and in Buddhist temple in Tokyo, that's where I 1079 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:52,439 Speaker 1: brought up a new year and the yeah, and they 1080 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 1: the thing that they wanted to emphasize. The theme of 1081 01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 1: the night was gratitude. And they handed out the old 1082 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:07,600 Speaker 1: cards with the Japanese character and the end, which gratitude. 1083 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 1: And that is a reminder that I try to turn 1084 01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:16,680 Speaker 1: to every day. Um. And you know, whether it's in 1085 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,160 Speaker 1: me in the course of meditation, whether it's in the 1086 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,160 Speaker 1: course of what I call my sanity drives up the 1087 01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 1: PC when I just need to get in my car 1088 01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:28,200 Speaker 1: and go somewhere, um, and it let everything else go. UM. 1089 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:33,559 Speaker 1: I don't simply dwell on the anger and the hurt 1090 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 1: and the void I have to think about what I'm 1091 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 1: filling into. And so UM, I'm thankful for you know, 1092 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 1: my mom who just called in the middle of our taping. 1093 01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm thankful for UH and his health and and and 1094 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,479 Speaker 1: thankful about my my dear sister and all these wonderful 1095 01:16:55,520 --> 01:17:00,559 Speaker 1: friends and chosen family as my good friend chen as Uh. 1096 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,280 Speaker 1: It's termed it chosen family that I have in my mind. Yeah, 1097 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:11,439 Speaker 1: me too. Yeah, So UM, I just I am thankful um, 1098 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:18,000 Speaker 1: and again specifically for the ability, um for this country 1099 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,200 Speaker 1: to realize where it is, um, you know, in a 1100 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,439 Speaker 1: clear dark way. And though it has taken such tragic 1101 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:32,720 Speaker 1: and events for us to gain that clarity, we now 1102 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 1: have it. So what are we going to do? UM? 1103 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,080 Speaker 1: My job, I feel like, as a journalist and as 1104 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 1: an analyst and essays is too simply introduce a perspective 1105 01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 1: into the world, UM that I hope people find useful, 1106 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 1: and to tell a story that I feel are important 1107 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,080 Speaker 1: about how the things that I care about the most 1108 01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:03,240 Speaker 1: are getting fixed and how we are how we can all, 1109 01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, play our part. And I don't you know 1110 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 1: people have said, oh, that sounds like activism. Well I 1111 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,719 Speaker 1: don't think so because I know activists. I know people 1112 01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 1: who are or community organizers, people on the ground, people 1113 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 1: like you said, like Brittany and and folks who are 1114 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,479 Speaker 1: doing that work. And what I hope to do is 1115 01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,680 Speaker 1: tell their stories a little bit more. Uh, tell me 1116 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:32,280 Speaker 1: and what those human beings are, like, what kind of 1117 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,800 Speaker 1: are they going through? What kind of laughter do they 1118 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,360 Speaker 1: have in their life? Um? You know, let's see all 1119 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:42,120 Speaker 1: of the people who are working to advance this country 1120 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,759 Speaker 1: as full human beings. Let's get to know these patriots 1121 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 1: for who they are. UM. And I can do that 1122 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 1: with an objective by I can do that with a 1123 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:54,599 Speaker 1: subjective by. Um. You know, I don't need to I'm 1124 01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 1: talking new fellow journalists here. I don't need a ton 1125 01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:01,920 Speaker 1: oft to tell you that to uh, you know, we 1126 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 1: need to understand that we have the capability to tell 1127 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:11,680 Speaker 1: these stories, but we should do so responsibly. And and 1128 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,160 Speaker 1: I just helped to keep doing that. Um and Rolling 1129 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,519 Speaker 1: Stone has given me a great form for that. And 1130 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm I am grateful every day. Yeah, I love that gratitude. 1131 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,920 Speaker 1: The gratitude helps refuel the tank in times like this. 1132 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,200 Speaker 1: It really does, it really does. And I am thankful 1133 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,960 Speaker 1: for new people have come into my life because I 1134 01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,080 Speaker 1: people like, oh I have enough friends? Really do you 1135 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:44,840 Speaker 1: have enough friends? Do you have enough? Because there like 1136 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:49,639 Speaker 1: a quota. I would love to know what enough friends 1137 01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,680 Speaker 1: feels like because I don't have friends, because if I 1138 01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,479 Speaker 1: had thought that. You know, there's a lot of wonderful 1139 01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:00,240 Speaker 1: people who just this year alone, present company included, I 1140 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:06,080 Speaker 1: would never have met and never having And you know, uh, 1141 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,200 Speaker 1: it's it. This is one of the loneliest times I 1142 01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 1: think maybe in America has probably ever experienced. All of 1143 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 1: us have probably hit it with that feeling of loneliness 1144 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:23,200 Speaker 1: in ways maybe that we have not particularly been familiar with. 1145 01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,479 Speaker 1: And so make like you said, make those connections. We 1146 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,439 Speaker 1: gotta see each other. We gotta find ways, even if 1147 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 1: it's by video, if it's you know, I don't know, 1148 01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,200 Speaker 1: you're someone's on a stupid Brooklyn and you're standing on 1149 01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 1: the sidewalk, just be socially just but a community, you 1150 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,559 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um, you know, if you're standing 1151 01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:46,799 Speaker 1: and they're standing on their front porch and you're standing 1152 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 1: on the on the tree line, you can still shout 1153 01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,960 Speaker 1: and and and be a community. Um. It's it's it's 1154 01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 1: really important for us to be around each other and 1155 01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:01,440 Speaker 1: to embrace that notion that we can in fact realize 1156 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:07,559 Speaker 1: these ideals that were put Um, America is worth fighting for. 1157 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:13,080 Speaker 1: And however you do that, UM, it's up to you. UM. 1158 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in my lane. I feel like 1159 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm happy doing what I'm doing. And you know, whatever 1160 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:26,440 Speaker 1: you know comes forth, we'll see. But I feel like, UM, overall, uh, 1161 01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:31,879 Speaker 1: you know, all these calamity in the world cannot quash 1162 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:42,080 Speaker 1: my feeling of belonging and happiness good here here. Yeah, 1163 01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:46,400 Speaker 1: let's let's keep let's keep that community going, and and 1164 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:52,320 Speaker 1: and and and frankly, keep listening to UM two wise 1165 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:56,600 Speaker 1: people and auditing our horizons. I try to listen to 1166 01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:00,599 Speaker 1: a new album a week, UM, something that some often 1167 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:04,080 Speaker 1: that I had, you know, the genres that I've never 1168 01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:09,200 Speaker 1: would have considered, you know, country. I'm not a country fan. UM, 1169 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,120 Speaker 1: not a you know, death metal guy. But you know, 1170 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,240 Speaker 1: if there's an album, I was like, Okay, now that's interesting, 1171 01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:20,639 Speaker 1: I'll listen to the whole thing, and Okay, I've experienced that. Great. 1172 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:27,400 Speaker 1: Let's make our life about these experiences, you know. UM, 1173 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:33,320 Speaker 1: And let's make space. Let's make space for each other. Indeed, indeed, 1174 01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,559 Speaker 1: and whether that's in a d M or you know, 1175 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:40,200 Speaker 1: hugging somebody in person. Um, make space for people, face 1176 01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 1: for people in your life. And welcome possibility. Welcome possibility 1177 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 1: feels like a welcome welcome possibility. Yeah, welcome it. It 1178 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,400 Speaker 1: feels like a good kind of mottol to take out 1179 01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:02,160 Speaker 1: into the world. Amen. Mm hmm, thank you so much, 1180 01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,120 Speaker 1: Whip smarties. It's no secret to any of you that 1181 01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,880 Speaker 1: this is an election year, and as we've talked about 1182 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:17,639 Speaker 1: on this podcast, elections are first of all, incredibly important 1183 01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,160 Speaker 1: to participate in. Second of all, basically make you feel 1184 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:25,080 Speaker 1: like an intellectual superhero, and third of all can be 1185 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,760 Speaker 1: kind of complicated. One of the things we've discussed on 1186 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,960 Speaker 1: this podcast is what voter suppression looks like today. And 1187 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,120 Speaker 1: that's why I want to talk to you guys about 1188 01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,920 Speaker 1: I am a Voter. It is a civic engagement organization 1189 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,479 Speaker 1: that I helped to co found. It is nonpartisan, it 1190 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:46,679 Speaker 1: is incredibly easy to access, and one of the things 1191 01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,960 Speaker 1: we're trying to do is make sure that first time 1192 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 1: voters have all the information they need and everyone who 1193 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,799 Speaker 1: believes they're already registered isn't going to wind up finding 1194 01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,960 Speaker 1: out they've been purged from the voter rolls when they 1195 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,120 Speaker 1: get to the voting book. So whether you're a first 1196 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,240 Speaker 1: time voter or a long time voter, let's make sure 1197 01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,479 Speaker 1: you're registered and have all the resources you need to 1198 01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:13,439 Speaker 1: do that. We created the easiest ever textline for you. 1199 01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:17,479 Speaker 1: Text the word voter v O t E R voter 1200 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,479 Speaker 1: to to six seven nine seven. We can get you 1201 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,920 Speaker 1: registered to vote in under two minutes. Check your registration, 1202 01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,759 Speaker 1: make sure you know where you're polling place is because 1203 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,840 Speaker 1: sometimes they change and give you any other information that 1204 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:35,040 Speaker 1: you need. So again that's I am a voter, and 1205 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,639 Speaker 1: just text the word voter to six seven nine sets. 1206 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,160 Speaker 1: The show is executive produced by me Sophia Bush and 1207 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:51,000 Speaker 1: sim Sarna. Our supervising producer is Alison Bresnick. Our associate 1208 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:55,040 Speaker 1: producer is Kate Linley, Our editor is Josh Wendish, and 1209 01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,559 Speaker 1: our music was written by Jack Garrett and produced by 1210 01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:01,000 Speaker 1: Mark Foster. This show is brought to you Carilliant anatomy 1211 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:03,160 Speaker 1: mm hmm