WEBVTT - Segment 1: Evaluating Najee Harris through five weeks

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<v Speaker 1>Least. He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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<v Speaker 1>on your Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>M H m h. Welcome to the Drive. We do

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<v Speaker 1>lovely Wednesday here in Pittsburgh. It's kind of lovely. Always

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<v Speaker 1>do intro tunes from me for a little Yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's the intro, if that's just

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<v Speaker 1>music playing in between the you know, between shows, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want it. I don't recognize it. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>had We've had the same interro music for I don't

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<v Speaker 1>since the creation of the Drive. But yeah, so anyways, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Wednesday. Steelers were back on the practice field today.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't gotten the practice report yet, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>over there. I kind of know who did what, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say yet. Hopefully we get the next hour

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<v Speaker 1>and a half or so. We canna chat about it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Absolutely. Uh. I did want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about Naja Harris man Um. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how you feel, but I feel a little vindicated

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the uh, never take a running back,

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<v Speaker 1>Never take a running back. The analyt I had people

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<v Speaker 1>coming after me last week on that on on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>like oh, you're going these guys should never take the

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<v Speaker 1>running back was supposed to fix the running game. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>that's yeah. Excuse me. Anyone who listens to us knew

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<v Speaker 1>we were in favor of it. And that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>as a rule I would take running backs in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round no matter what custances are. You know, be

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<v Speaker 1>the right guy. So I'll be the right guy the

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<v Speaker 1>right situation. The right aren't part of the draft considering

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<v Speaker 1>what else is available. There weren't five other stud offensive

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<v Speaker 1>tackles sitting there or you know what I mean. So,

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<v Speaker 1>and this player also greatly affects the passing game if

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<v Speaker 1>it were a t N who's a good receiver, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because he's not the bell cow. They're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get physical, and they're trying to make the quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>life easier. He does all those things. So the fit

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<v Speaker 1>is great for me. Yeah, I agree on um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna go that route, they should have taken

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<v Speaker 1>an offensive lineman, or they should have done something else.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a name, ye, don't just throw that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>They should have taken an offensive linem. They should go

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<v Speaker 1>an offensive lineman, offensive lineman, offensive lineman, give me names. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll just make it up and and and don't say,

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<v Speaker 1>well they should have taken Creed Humphrey in the first round. No, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Creed Humphrey in the second round. I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that would have made perfect sense to me. But then

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<v Speaker 1>you're short of tight end, you know. I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>a give and take with all the first round grade

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<v Speaker 1>on Pat Okay, and that makes perfect sense. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>in a draft we've said this over not I mean

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft, for they were chasing tight ends for years,

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<v Speaker 1>for years. There's two of them in this one. One

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<v Speaker 1>of them they had no shot in a million years

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<v Speaker 1>at And there were three running backs and they got

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<v Speaker 1>one of each. So the old line prospects suffered a little.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not like more in green or losers and

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<v Speaker 1>bombs that aren't have any value at all. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have everything. All four of those guys are

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<v Speaker 1>playing a lot. I mean, how many teams out there

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<v Speaker 1>can you say the top four picks are contributing on

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<v Speaker 1>a nearly every snap basis. Yea, Naja Harris right now

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<v Speaker 1>is on pace for three hundred and sixty touches this season.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be the most for Steelers players since leviy

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<v Speaker 1>On Bell had four oh six in two thousand sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>He led the league that year. Yeah, I'm sure now

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<v Speaker 1>Derrick Henry is gonna lead the league. He's running onto

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred here. Yeah, I mean especially with the extra game,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean even in the sixteen game season, he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be set in records. It's bonkers what he's doing. He's

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<v Speaker 1>like sixty sixty carries ahead of the pace that would

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<v Speaker 1>break the all time record. Right as long as he

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<v Speaker 1>stays els sixteen game season, it's the seventeen games, won't

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<v Speaker 1>even Factory doesn't break it in fifty This is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Bonds breaking the home run record in a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty four games, Like you can't even you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it's like Ruth you know, hitting as many homers

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<v Speaker 1>as five other teams in the league or whatever. Back

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<v Speaker 1>then Gretzky numbers. Here's the he's on pace to catch

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<v Speaker 1>passes Mattea, which would be ten more than Bell's team

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<v Speaker 1>record for a running back of eighty five, also set

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<v Speaker 1>in in the two thousand seventeen So Alvin Kamara is

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<v Speaker 1>probably this is like the second most used receiver in

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<v Speaker 1>the passing game right now in terms of route percentage

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<v Speaker 1>and those type of things. And Kamara to me and

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<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey are elite receiving running backs that have shown us

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<v Speaker 1>this over what three or four year stretch every year.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go pull up, you know Kamara's statue on

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<v Speaker 1>the back of his football card eighty one receptions, eighty

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<v Speaker 1>one receptions, eighty three receptions. Harris is gonna hit that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, probably in sixteen probably you know, the same level.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're not like there. I mean, one game there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of dump offs, but it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be entirely behind the lines of scrimmage and that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff too. Yeah. Ben Roethlisberger said something interesting

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<v Speaker 1>this morning when he was talking about how do you

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<v Speaker 1>replace Smith Schuster's snaps in the slot? And one of

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<v Speaker 1>it is replies, well, maybe you know, it'll be more

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<v Speaker 1>use of the tight ends of running backs in the slot.

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<v Speaker 1>M hmm. Indeed, Um, let's let's definitely talk more Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>But since we got together yesterday, I finished my stat

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<v Speaker 1>packet that I do every week for the Steelers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't realize this, but Claypool, as you alluded

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<v Speaker 1>to yesterday, played a very high percentage of snaps when

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<v Speaker 1>the game was all said and done from the slot,

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<v Speaker 1>and had like over seventy yards receiving from the slot.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so I'm kind of mad at myself. I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't thought of that as the media answer. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more too. You know, obviously Harris can handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ebron is you know, yeah, you're gonna get You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get him with a ton of Penn State. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony McFarland back here at some point, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to. They had a plan for him in

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason and field together. They were on the field

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<v Speaker 1>together a lot and then all of a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>then here McFarland gets hurt. And that kind of goes

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<v Speaker 1>out the window. Well you know, now you can, you can.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna put the lodge or snow on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Right with Harris. McFarland is a different cat. That makes

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<v Speaker 1>things very interesting now because now, okay, you split Harris out,

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<v Speaker 1>put him in the slot, you keep you keep McFarland

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<v Speaker 1>in the backfield, or he's jet motioning or whatever whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it may be. But if you know, if if let's

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<v Speaker 1>say that the opposing defense, you most you get them

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<v Speaker 1>both insidecars. Yeah, okay, you motion Harris over to the slot.

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<v Speaker 1>Who follows him over? Is it a linebacker? Right? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then that means we're probably gonna run the ball here

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<v Speaker 1>to the side because Friar Mud or Gentry might be

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<v Speaker 1>lined up in line as well, or you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>got his speed out on the edge. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of versatility there, and it's it's similar to the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>we had about well, is it a good thing when

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<v Speaker 1>Deonte missed that game? Maybe they'll get back to basics

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<v Speaker 1>and heavier football. It's not a good thing to be

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<v Speaker 1>losing Juju, but they've they've built the team pretty darn

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<v Speaker 1>well to handle it. And the other thing I realized

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<v Speaker 1>I did some more digging between now and yesterday and

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<v Speaker 1>today the two games that Deonte and Claypool missed. Washington

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<v Speaker 1>was on the field for like snaps. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's very accustomed, dude, don't. It's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Ray, you know what I mean? Yeah, that that's

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<v Speaker 1>he'll see. He'll see. He'll he'll see an uptick in

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<v Speaker 1>in offensive snaps, but it's not often like the last

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks. But he's Yeah, he's not gonna be playing

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<v Speaker 1>you know, half the snap at that's not gonna happen. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>They'll figure out other ways to do it. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to put their best guys on the field, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>not one of them. Yeah, I mean, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he filled in in two games where someone got

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<v Speaker 1>hurt during the game. That's not the same as we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna plan right right, right, It's as opposed to have

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<v Speaker 1>to play him. I'm not getting on Ray Ray. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he brings a spark to the team. But and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean there's something they tried that at

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<v Speaker 1>times in the preseason and training camp, and it's just yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna work. But to the original point, Harris's touches,

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<v Speaker 1>expansive route tree, I think all those things are here

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<v Speaker 1>to stay, if not grow, especially his route. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that there will be asked with the types of routes

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<v Speaker 1>will be asking him to run. Yeah, I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>just they're just scratching the surface there, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue to grow. And well, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think after the first month of the season, NFL

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com put out a list of the top rookies

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<v Speaker 1>in the league behind Javonte Williams. I have super high

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<v Speaker 1>expectations for Williams, Like, if we get the fantasy segment,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm buying him now because he's about to blow past Gordon.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not close at this point. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he just saw him on the same football field last week. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Williams is good. I like Williams, Yeah, but their body

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<v Speaker 1>of work as a professional isn't close. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have Williams over Harris. Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. I mean, no back as a rookie. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there are many. If I were picking rookie

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<v Speaker 1>offensive skilled players right now have been even offensive rookie

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. It's tough right now. Chase is probably

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<v Speaker 1>think he's number one. I think he's number one, But

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<v Speaker 1>I think Harris is number two. I do too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Pitts will probably get in the conversation. It's always a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, driven thing. And I bet mac Jones gets

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<v Speaker 1>more votes than he should because he's a quarterback. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see any of them doing anything special because he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't stay. But they're gonna they're gonna be like a

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<v Speaker 1>six win team, you know, well, Lancer fields play enough

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<v Speaker 1>whins all said, and they might win seven. They get

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<v Speaker 1>to play the Dolphins and Jets twice each. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>but the other quarterbacks, Lawrence is actually probably playing the

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<v Speaker 1>best at this point. It's starting to turn a corner.

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<v Speaker 1>But the three picnic, you know. No, I put a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of bucks down on Harris to win Rookie of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year a while back, and I bet those odds

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<v Speaker 1>are worse now than they were that he's been. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been over ninety yards and each of the last nine

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<v Speaker 1>total yards and each of the last four games since

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<v Speaker 1>the opener, so and the opening was against it what

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<v Speaker 1>we now knows a very good defense. Yeah. Absolutely, If

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<v Speaker 1>he does that all year long, he's gonna be Rookie

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year. He should be. He'll be in a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation is March. He's gonna keep this up. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred yards receiving this year, right. I mean, think

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<v Speaker 1>of the names we've mentioned to fellow rookies in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now. We have high hopes for Javonte Williams, but

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't even grabbed the starting job yet. Pitts is

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<v Speaker 1>starting to look like he might be blowing up. The

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks are predictably struggling, and probably we'll get better throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the year and the next year or several. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna happen overnight. Lawrence looks better now only

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<v Speaker 1>didn't start season. All the backs from last year, Acres, Dobbins,

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift, all those guys were weren't factors at this

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<v Speaker 1>point of the season last year. So he's ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>the curve as rookie goes by leaps and bounds. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the man, and I mean he played every

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<v Speaker 1>snap a week one, every staf, every snap, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think he's you know, this is gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a Sunday night game this week, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many people nationally have seen him

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<v Speaker 1>play yet watched every snap start to finish. This will

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<v Speaker 1>be and it's a bad defense. Like he can have

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred fifty total yards this week. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be in that neighborhood. Yeah yeah, I mean without question.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like again fantasy, there might be five guys

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<v Speaker 1>that start over him this week, you know, just in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the total production every week moving forward. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's he's been that kind of you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about that before the season started, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what our expectations were. And I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know rushing yards and yeah, you know fifty to

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<v Speaker 1>sixty catches, Well you might bump the catches up now.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget last night and something about where he's projected

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<v Speaker 1>in those areas, and I wrote back, like I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>the over on the It was like it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand and fifty yards, you know, a little slow star.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's now averaging like sixty two rushing yards of game,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's only going to go up. Yeah. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't had a hundred of rusher in a long

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<v Speaker 1>long time before last week. And I gotta think his

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<v Speaker 1>receiving numbers come down a bit because he's got sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>balls on the game, and because he's also running the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're gonna run the ball more. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna care, he's not gonna catch as many. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>the hundred percent snapcount thing is great, but we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want that really. I mean, I don't necessarily want Snell

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<v Speaker 1>out there. But if McFarland plays with Harris some and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe has a series of game. That's he's the feature back,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, that would be great. Yeah, maybe right right,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's I'll ask it a lot for a guys

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<v Speaker 1>ever played seventeen games before. Yeah, you saw you saw

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<v Speaker 1>him cramp up a little bit in the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 1>of the game on Sunday. He actually they threw back

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<v Speaker 1>to back to him, uh plays to him and I

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<v Speaker 1>saw him. I saw him initially cramp up and he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of he was running away from the press box

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw him stop on his way back over

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<v Speaker 1>and he started like kind of stretching the leg. He's

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<v Speaker 1>that an achilles or is he just cramping up? And

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<v Speaker 1>then when he went down, I was like, but then

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<v Speaker 1>he stayed in the game. Yeah, this was the next

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<v Speaker 1>Then the next the next play is one where he

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<v Speaker 1>went down. He they had him, you know, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>say anything to anybody. He just went out and ran

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<v Speaker 1>a pass pattern when he slipped coming out of his

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<v Speaker 1>break because the leg was locking up on him a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and Roethlisberger tried to throw it to him

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<v Speaker 1>the right and maybe it was kind of an awkward play. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it did. It turned whoa bo I was? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on there? He's fighting through an injury,

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<v Speaker 1>and Roethlisberger said, hey, he said this morning, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I told him, like, look, it's okay. If you're cramping up,

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<v Speaker 1>let me know, I won't throw the ball to you

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<v Speaker 1>the right absolutely, can you still have value as a

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<v Speaker 1>decoy here if you if you're not until you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the you know, for this one play or two

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<v Speaker 1>plays or whatever. But to his credit to he's a

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<v Speaker 1>tough guy. He wants to fight through everything. Typical Obama dude,

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<v Speaker 1>super competitor, doesn't want to come up. And it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>something with it because because the Bama stuff right in

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<v Speaker 1>your Obama lose your job? Um, what was I gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say with that? It is just cramps though, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he was fine, he's fine. I saw he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he had to keep the red que on it beside

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<v Speaker 1>his name on on the fantasy stuff. No, he's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>He's okay. Yeah, he was just yeah, fair enough. And

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<v Speaker 1>apparently he had he is so well put together, like

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<v Speaker 1>there's not much body fat there. That's cramp easier. They go,

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<v Speaker 1>those guys cramp up, you know, and I'm sure they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're probably talking, you know, with Garrett Chamont this week Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what can we do to make sure that that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen again? No, absolutely, because we're gonna use you, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna use you a lot. Forty plush yards total

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<v Speaker 1>of total offense. He would have got another barely played

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter, right that thought he didnt because I

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<v Speaker 1>was playing against him in fantasy this week and I won.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like two oh one than one. I would

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<v Speaker 1>have been enough to put in trouble. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably would have got at least five or six

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<v Speaker 1>more touches, you know, And I'm not ripping on the

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<v Speaker 1>guys behind them, but the drop off is it's significant.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see the difference, like James Conner has been

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<v Speaker 1>okay this year, like he's he's been productive for the Cardinals. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a part time player, but he's abusing three point

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<v Speaker 1>one year as you carry. Is it really that low? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's done some good things, but yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the other guy, and he's better than Snow

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<v Speaker 1>and hush, you know what I mean. I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>a big gap from Harris to Connor, and there's another

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<v Speaker 1>gap from Connor to the backups here currently. So you

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<v Speaker 1>see the value of that running back. What it means

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<v Speaker 1>to the offense, uh, to be able to just hand

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<v Speaker 1>the ball off and go, okay, there's four yards, there's

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<v Speaker 1>five yards, you know, and you know he falls forward.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, the offensive line plays a part in that

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And of course he did a much better

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<v Speaker 1>job last week. You know, I mentioned yesterday or Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember which day now that that they had

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<v Speaker 1>sit on you on the offensive line meetings to talk,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of go, yeah, you mentioned yesterday the

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<v Speaker 1>day before. It's really interesting wondering you know why. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like a quarterback meeting. What do you like? What

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<v Speaker 1>are your favorite player? You know, what do you come from?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us what you like? Yeah, you have some power

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<v Speaker 1>here now you're not gonna do what we tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us what you want if you think back about it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Levy on Bell's rookie year, he didn't run

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<v Speaker 1>like he did. He was a totally different beast the

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<v Speaker 1>next year. In the year after that, it's like it

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<v Speaker 1>was more than just losing the weight to the style

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<v Speaker 1>of running, because he didn't run like that. Mission state,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just stopping the hole, trying to matrix things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so that growth they they looked. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like they've accelerated that growth process by having him do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Last I leave some bounds not to mention all the

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<v Speaker 1>the usage and stuff we mentioned compared to other rookies

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<v Speaker 1>and fellow rookies from last year at that position. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>where was I going with this? Just the original thing

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, don't take running backs high. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw hypothetical out there. Let's say the Chiefs last year

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<v Speaker 1>didn't take Clyde ed to Hilaire but took Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they took the wrong back. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think taking Taylor in that offense, the Chiefs wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>two and three, That's my point, or even swift, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, but Taylor in that offense, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know they might be four and one. We're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about my home struggle a little bit right exactly. They

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<v Speaker 1>took the wrong back or if you put nausea in

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<v Speaker 1>that out and you know that offense, wow, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's like they're you know, when Leonard

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<v Speaker 1>Fournette went third overall, if that had been Christian McCaffrey,

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<v Speaker 1>would anybody have been Nobody's nobody's given the Panthers a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time about it. I mean, frankly, no one's given

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas a hard time about it. I mean they took

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke and fifth or something like that. If the back

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<v Speaker 1>is worth it, he's worth it. Yeah, exactly. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's a different conversation. Should Cowboys have paid Zeke what

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<v Speaker 1>they did and all those things or I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that that to me is a totally different conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't have to cross that bridge for five

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<v Speaker 1>more years. It looks pretty good this year, right right,

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<v Speaker 1>And they got the quarterback back. Every thing hunky dory.

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<v Speaker 1>Again and again. I always harp on this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever the next quarterback is anywhere from a third round

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<v Speaker 1>pick that Aaron Rodgers and anybody in between is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be sure happy. Naja Harris is that back. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>it more attractive. We haven't talked about this yet. Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Glazer reported over the weekend that Mike Tomlin prefers to

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<v Speaker 1>have a veteran quarterback instead of breaking in a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a young guy here. Um makes perfect sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything that you do moving forward from this point in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of how that offensive line continues to grow in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of, oh boy, what's Naja Harris going to be here?

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of what Chase Claypool and Deante Johnson Hart

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<v Speaker 1>and Pat Fiarmouth, like, you've made a pretty good nest

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<v Speaker 1>here that very you know, if if I'm a veteran

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback and I'm looking at that going, that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>bad situation. Great running back, I got a defense, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a head coach and GM and ownership I trust.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if if you're a big free agent in

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<v Speaker 1>any sport, I would start with ownership and stability, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and all. You know, like if you're a head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>like do I really want to be the head coach

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<v Speaker 1>to Jacks? You know, you want to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets right right? Yeah, they're offering me more money, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's I mean more money fine, you know, but if

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<v Speaker 1>I have some choice in the matter, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to a stable environment that's won a lot of games

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<v Speaker 1>in this league, assuming that's what's important to the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>If it isn't, that's not the guy you want anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>And quite frankly, they take it. Let's say they take

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<v Speaker 1>a left tackle or whoever. They take it, even if

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<v Speaker 1>he's starting at this point, which looking around the league,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably wouldn't be. Um. Now, I know Dan Moore

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<v Speaker 1>starting for the Steelers. Yeah, you know, like there saw

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<v Speaker 1>and those guys that doesn't move the needle for Oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>they get they get this left tackle twenty third. Overall,

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<v Speaker 1>he's on Orlando Pace or or even Penny soul or

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<v Speaker 1>because even this line, I'm sure there's people I would like,

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers or whoever. Why would he ever come play

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<v Speaker 1>behind this line? Well, he's not playing behind this line,

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<v Speaker 1>and we five of two thousand twenty one. He's playing

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<v Speaker 1>behind the line that they create for two thousand twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>which might look like this line plus the fifteenth pick

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft as the best guard we've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 1>prospect type of guy Quit Nelson like guard or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I mean. So if they do go the

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<v Speaker 1>veteran route, I mean again, we're waging ahead of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>They eat. You know that you're probably either using cap

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<v Speaker 1>space or draft picks for the for this quarterback, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>both if it's a Rogers like situation, But if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a Rodgers like situation, he makes everybody around him so

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<v Speaker 1>much better. Anyway, you can fix both things. They have

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<v Speaker 1>enough cards in their hand that they can do both.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like whoever gets here has to play behind

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<v Speaker 1>this line now. And I believe definitely three of those

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<v Speaker 1>starters will be better in their second and third years

0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.000
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand twenty two than they are now. We're

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<v Speaker 1>already starting exactly. UM. I looked at it thus far

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<v Speaker 1>this season, UM chooks A core four is not giving

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<v Speaker 1>up a sack. Trade, UM trying to think what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Kendrick Green has not giving up a sack. Both of

0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 1>those guys have been penalized four times. In the Green

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's been three holding penalties. Core for hasn't drawn

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<v Speaker 1>a holding penalty this season. His penalties have all been

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<v Speaker 1>pre snap stuff. Uh. Trey Turner's got one sack given up.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't been called for a holding penalty this year.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been solid. Yeah. Dotson has been called for two

0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:34.439
<v Speaker 1>holding penalties. He's given up a sack. Damn Moore has

0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:38.040
<v Speaker 1>given up two sacks, and I think he has holding

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<v Speaker 1>penalty or two? Is OK? I mean that's it's when

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<v Speaker 1>when we were talking about that offensive line is what

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about, Like it wasn't one guy that stunk

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<v Speaker 1>better if it was almost right, Yeah, because then you

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<v Speaker 1>could then you could fix it easier. But it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a big picture it's not better that way, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to let them all grow together. And again, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have a lot of resources to fix it

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<v Speaker 1>and might not need as much fixtion. Yeah what you

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was two weeks ago. There's so much. There's

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<v Speaker 1>already starting to shift a little right, right right, And

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<v Speaker 1>here's is part of that. Yeah, and you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>first round picks everywhere, and you know, fifteen million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>guys to win this league be nice, but those guys

0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.040
<v Speaker 1>don't grow on trees, you know, and they could go

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:22.359
<v Speaker 1>get one if they had to. This isn't college football

0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 1>where you you get I'm gonna go draft. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go sign these five in Miami and pick up a

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<v Speaker 1>few tackles rights. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I like where

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<v Speaker 1>they said big picture. It's amazing and it's I felt

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<v Speaker 1>there was a big part of that felt this way

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of the Green Bay game that that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked about it like, okay, this was what

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted. They didn't win the game, but they showed

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<v Speaker 1>signs of improvement absolutely, especially the line in the Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to hear that. Fans didn't want to hear. They

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<v Speaker 1>got their They get their butts carrying to pick first

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft, right shot. Now there's tangent. Now there's

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<v Speaker 1>tang will proof. But it was better. That's very true.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not the stats to back it up. There's a win.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, anyone could see it in, you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>the surface. Back to Harris, I mean, if he's not

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<v Speaker 1>consistently getting hit behind the line of scrimmage, he is

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<v Speaker 1>going to rip people up. I mean, it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be Jamal Charles taking an eighty yards, but boy, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you get him a little head of steam. And even

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<v Speaker 1>when he gets hit behind the line of scrimmage, he's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the better backs in the league at least

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<v Speaker 1>gif line or getting something out of it. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>perfect for this environment. Yeah, you know, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>the line's blowing blocks, it's not like it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a minus three. You know, run every time it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've they've had it. They have a you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>talked about somebody, your your buddy has a certain type

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<v Speaker 1>as a girlfriend. He's dating a blonde. Every time they're

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<v Speaker 1>backs are the same thing, Like, yeah, they have they

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<v Speaker 1>have a type of backs that they want, and he

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<v Speaker 1>sounds you know he might be the he's more prototypical

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<v Speaker 1>of all of them. Yeah. Really, he's the drawing up

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<v Speaker 1>in a lab as a steeler back for today's NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a time when it was jerome, but they've

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<v Speaker 1>realized you have to have receiver there, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. And he's because he's a big guy that

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<v Speaker 1>catches the ball. He can handle a heavy workload and

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<v Speaker 1>he's drinking handle weather and protection and massive hands. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I mean just they're like, what like I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when we when we first they brought t J. Wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to introduce introduce him. They brought him over to us

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<v Speaker 1>while we were doing a show. Yeah we're doing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, shake his hand and like holy macro h. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm always blown away with nausea. With the long

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<v Speaker 1>arms too, I mean, it's such and both those things

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<v Speaker 1>are such an advantage, not just for stiff arms. But

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<v Speaker 1>he has this massive catching radius and I bring it

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<v Speaker 1>up I feel like every week, but you watched every

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<v Speaker 1>every practice and pre preseason and camp, how many balls

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<v Speaker 1>did he catch three feet over his head and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just just scratching the safe right, that's the common people.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe now with with Smith Schuster gone, you might

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<v Speaker 1>see more of that. We'll see. Yeah, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they can handle this, miss Schuster loss. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>good player. They just can't. What they can't handle was

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch, you know, like what's happened early in the

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<v Speaker 1>season where Okay, Claypool's out of game, and then Johnson's

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<v Speaker 1>out of game, and then Washington mrs. They need all

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<v Speaker 1>those guys too, and Johnson now need to stay health.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to stay healthy. And honestly, if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, you know, overall they're getting pretty nice. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have the experience of what Seattle has, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty darn close in terms of the skill set

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<v Speaker 1>that they bring to the table. With Johnson and Claypool.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah right, I mean there they have some similarities

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<v Speaker 1>lockt the Metcalf verse Johnson and uh Claypool. If Claypool

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<v Speaker 1>turns into Metcalf, great, yeah look out. But they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're in the same Moldy and Frankly, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean this sounds optimistic too. I think Juju's injury just

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<v Speaker 1>stat wise helps Claypool more than anybody, especially if he

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<v Speaker 1>is going to operate out the slot a lot. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just envisioned him after the catch, quick hitters

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<v Speaker 1>go routes from the slot. Juju wasn't gonna go routes

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<v Speaker 1>from the slat or you know, deep skinny point where

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<v Speaker 1>if he did, it was you know, right all right,

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<v Speaker 1>and he overthrew him twice and right. Yeah, So now

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm just like to see where the offense is

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<v Speaker 1>at this week. Yeah, it should be fun and it

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<v Speaker 1>should be a game where they so bad, it's atrocious,

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<v Speaker 1>really really bad. They can't get off the field. But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to labs next, right, Yeah, we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that more with Bob Levy Aldo. We have him in

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<v Speaker 1>the next segment here. Don't you go anywhere you want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that. He is Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lala.

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