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Speaker 1: This is war.

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Speaker 2: Stop crying, put your man panties on, and go to war.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to No Buffs, the

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Speaker 1: only Survivor podcast that proudly wears man panties. It's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: April thirtieth, and we're recapping the twelfth episode of Survivor,

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Speaker 1: Winners at War, So watch your spoilers. I'm Jay Skeets

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Speaker 1: and joining us here by the fire Tas Mellis. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: at Doney, we got the bearded one, Trey Kirby hel

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Speaker 1: Hey yo, the international man of mystery, taking it to

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Speaker 1: the Max. Lee ellis friend but not least making the

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Speaker 1: magic happen. It's jd.

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Speaker 3: Hello, there he is, and here we are.

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Speaker 1: Back once again to recap another Survivor episode. We'll tackle

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Speaker 1: it scene by scene as we do here on No Buffs,

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Speaker 1: but the key takeaway from last night Peanut Butter is

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Speaker 1: the true soul Survivor. We start night twenty eight post

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Speaker 1: tribal council, where Sophie had just been voted out, and

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Speaker 1: when they're coming back to camp and everyone's upset, we

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Speaker 1: get a nice little editor breadcrumb here. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you noticed the clue, guys, Kim falls over when

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Speaker 1: returning to camp. Whoa, whoa, setting us up for what

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Speaker 1: would happen later in this episode. But we get Jeremy,

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Speaker 1: you know, letting us know that Ben will not talk

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Speaker 1: to him and that he's such a child, And this

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Speaker 1: becomes a running theme in this episode. Just Jeremy letting

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Speaker 1: time and time again. And Tony meanwhile, he's doing he's

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Speaker 1: Tony's idiotic, grimy move, and then he eventually makes his

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Speaker 1: way to Ben and tells him, you know, hey, sorry

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Speaker 1: he gets pooped on. So what did everybody think of

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Speaker 1: this opening scene? There was a lot happening in just

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Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever seen somebody get pooped on

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Speaker 4: craziest thing to experience, because I'm sure you don't even

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Speaker 4: But I also love seeing the differences in relationships here. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: Jeremy Tony and Ben have a tumultuous relationship with Ben right,

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Speaker 4: because Ben's just a poudy boy. He wants to play

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Speaker 4: and he's having a huge trouble this season not being

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Speaker 1: They obviously like each other.

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Speaker 4: She's saying, if I'm voted out, don't ever talk to

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Speaker 1: I thought that was hilarious.

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Speaker 4: But by the next scene they're basically back in cahoots again.

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Speaker 4: You know, they just had a falling out like you

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Speaker 1: They're back in action.

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Speaker 5: Talk to you until I'm voted up. Then I won't talk.

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Speaker 1: What a threat until he's like, oh man, that's a

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Speaker 1: fair Sarah, that's a fair.

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Speaker 6: Well hey, it worked right, I mean at jumping way ahead,

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Speaker 6: he offered his idol to her, right, ye.

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Speaker 3: And why did he do that?

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Speaker 6: Because because he was a because of his alliance, sure,

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Speaker 6: I think he got spooked there that she was going

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Speaker 6: So it was a good move by Sarah saying that

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Speaker 5: Just add there is that he that's his only real

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Speaker 5: just showing that he's also a nice guy to the jury.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's on him. But is he just feeding that extra,

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Speaker 5: that extra little seed to the jury that hey, I'm

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I mean, you're totally right, and it's it's it

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Speaker 6: But it's it's it's like, hey, I've got an idol despair. Here,

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Speaker 3: But anyway, so that's jumping way ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's fine. I mean, I'm glad you you

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Speaker 1: I've got the better resume here. I did more in this.

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Speaker 1: Is she confident like I could beat him at the end,

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Speaker 1: And if so, what is she doing that I'm not seeing?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a great point.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know why Sarah would want Tony

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Speaker 6: I think Tony thinks that he can beat anybody except

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Tony to me is certainly in the lead right now,

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Speaker 4: and he has clearly the best resume. But for Sarah,

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Speaker 4: the way she can really build a resume is to

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Speaker 4: that's her huge move, right is to say I'm finally

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Speaker 1: You had no idea.

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Speaker 4: So if she is ever able to pull that off,

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Speaker 4: it's more likely that Tony would want Sarah next to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. And one more thing

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's a bit of a show for the jury.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting because you obviously didn't watch one of Tony's

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Speaker 5: And I would say, now knowing Tony's background as a

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Speaker 5: history as he mentioned there with Tony, it's hard not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lee, I do have a question before we move

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Speaker 1: on to the next scene. Do you think it's good

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Speaker 1: or bad luck to be pooped on by a birder.

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Speaker 7: About well, I mean, without giving too much away, it's

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Speaker 7: got to be good luck, really, doesn't. I mean, no,

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Speaker 7: that was that was a pretty funny moment because he's.

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Speaker 1: Just like, oh man, I can't believe it. Man, he's

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Speaker 5: Is it a bird?

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Speaker 7: Is it a bat?

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think Tony.

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Speaker 7: I think Tony though, has kind of figured out a

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Speaker 7: So he's he's on quite a run here, and you know,

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Speaker 7: it was it was another entertaining show with him, for sure,

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Speaker 1: Oh, spain Nest. The next scene, let's get right to it.

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Speaker 1: The morning of d twenty nine and we're right into

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Speaker 1: the spain Nest and these are you saw the flashbacks

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Speaker 1: guys too, obviously Tassen and Lee. Yeah, Tony's had the

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Speaker 1: spy bunker, which was the dumbest decision of all time,

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Speaker 1: a ditch. No, this why bunker did not work.

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Speaker 7: I was gonna say, I was gonna say, I don't

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Speaker 7: know Howie was I living.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he said it didn't work, but he had a

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Speaker 5: lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just having a blast out there. And then

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Speaker 1: so yeah, now it's this is the evolution. We're up

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Speaker 1: in the spine Nest. Let's you know, I will say,

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Speaker 1: very funny scene. I loved how it was shot too.

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Speaker 1: When Sarah's like, hey man, it's just me. He's like,

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Speaker 1: can you see me? Yeah, can you see me? He's like, no,

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Speaker 1: not really. I mean you're pretty good up there, but

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Speaker 1: nobody's coming here. So yeah, wasting all the time in

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Speaker 1: the world. Oh, I love that scene.

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Speaker 6: There's also the fact that you have a crew of

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Speaker 6: like a camera, multiple cameras maybe and a boom guy

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Speaker 6: all looking at the tree tops, right, So how how

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Speaker 6: can you get away with it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, you really can't. Like, yeah, if you if

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Speaker 1: you wandered up to the water, well, you'd be like,

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Speaker 1: why are there two cameraman and a producer looking up

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Speaker 1: at that tree? I mean, what am I? I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: first off, look up in that tree and see what

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Speaker 1: the hell they're shooting? And is that a man up there?

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Speaker 1: Is that Tony? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And even if so, you have to hope the right

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Speaker 4: it has to.

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Speaker 1: Be their only plan.

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Speaker 1: She was getting more and more frustrated with that, though

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Speaker 6: Well again, getting back to Ben sort of shutting down, Jeremy,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, have they have they talked about this and said, hey,

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Speaker 6: But I don't know, there's something There's There's got to

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Speaker 1: Right and then and then votes, you know, votes to

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Speaker 4: I think he's obviously getting caught too much in his emotions.

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Speaker 1: We've been whispering for a half an hour at this point.

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Speaker 1: Let's go vote. Ultimately a fool.

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 6: I just I'm just throwing it out there that maybe

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned you slipped it in there skeets that Ben

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Speaker 3: Is that yeah, vote to get rid of him?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely confirmed?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Well, I'm pretty sure it is a JD. You

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Speaker 3: Well it's on CBS talk Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so so can we just go over then? I

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Speaker 1: Michelle we know votes for Jeremy. Correct, yeah, so five

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Tyson.

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Speaker 6: I was surprised at just how how uh they all

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Speaker 1: Well, you got Natalie, Sophie, Yule, Tyson, Poverty, and then

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Speaker 6: I mean watching Yule, there was one shot of him

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, the Adam Adam wasn't killing it out there

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Speaker 7: But with Boston rolled like that was a nasty injury.

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Speaker 7: What what's the rules with getting medical attention? I mean

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying after he end, you know, knowing I don't,

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Speaker 4: I had a Boston Rob moment myself about a minute

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Speaker 1: Slipped and fell.

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Speaker 4: It started storming here, you know, in Atlanta, got really rainy,

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Speaker 4: I was like, ah, And then suddenly the same thing

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Speaker 4: you gotta keep going, just like I'm soldiering through this

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Speaker 1: You gotta get those coconuts.

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Speaker 5: You gotta finish there, You gotta finish this episode, man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that two hour episode. Yeah, And in all honestly,

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't really like watching the five thousand

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Speaker 6: I would also say that this is important because I'm

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Speaker 3: There's eight people at.

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Speaker 6: This point before the travel castle, so that's thirteen jury members.

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Speaker 6: That's why Rob didn't quit, and that's why Natalie felt

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Speaker 5: Totally. I totally While watching, I thought the raw portion

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Speaker 1: Do you do you remember JD or tray when Chris

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember.

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Speaker 6: I do remember that when he came back, he killed it,

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Speaker 6: like every move he made one immunity, yeah, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: with you, like whoever wins this Edge of Extinction challenge

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00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 1: to get back in the game, like the other people

436
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 1: have to immediately bond together and get rid of them

437
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,919
Speaker 1: if they, you know, don't win an immunity or they

438
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 1: don't have some sort of safety like they would be

439
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 1: idiots if they don't do that.

440
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 4: Unless came in with two halves of a hidden immunity idol,

441
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 4: and he had to give one away, and I think

442
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 4: he gave it to Devin's who he was on extinction

443
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 4: with at the time.

444
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, so he did come back with something. Yeah, okay, okay, okay,

445
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 1: that makes a little bit more sense. And I say

446
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 1: that that they should all bond together and get rid

447
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 1: of him immediately. But then again, if you're somebody in,

448
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: like you know, you're on the outs, and you're not

449
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: within the sort of the alliance that's voting everybody out,

450
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: then you have no choice but probably to team up

451
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: with a guy that just came back or a woman

452
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 1: that just came back from edge of extinction. So yeah,

453
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 1: next week is gonna be uh, gonna be fascinating. We

454
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: go to Koru, back to camp and for the third time,

455
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 1: guys in less than fifteen minutes. Again, we get Jeremy

456
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: talking about how Ben won't talk to him, thank him

457
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: driving this home in this episode, and ultimately they do

458
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 1: have a very brief discussion. It doesn't go all that

459
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: well later on, but then again they both are on

460
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: side of the vote. We also get Sarah and Tony.

461
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: They're still bickering down by the beach, and we see

462
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: Nick in the background. He's sort of eavesdropping a little bit,

463
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: and we get a little Nick sort of package here,

464
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 1: and I thought this was really really interesting because Nick

465
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,479
Speaker 1: is pointing out how great all of this drama is

466
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: for his game, you know this friendly fire as he

467
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: first puts it, and that this is awesome. It's got

468
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: nothing to do with me. They're upset over here. We

469
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: got Jeremy and Ben won't they won't talk to each other.

470
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: And that is followed by a very interesting conversation between Nick, Denise,

471
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 1: and Michelle. It's a pretty quick scene, but the three

472
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: of them say, hey, like it should be us three.

473
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: We don't probably stand a chance. I mean, Nick even

474
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: says I can't beat Tony, Sarah, Jeremy, So hey, Denise, Michelle,

475
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: I maybe have a chance against you. And I think

476
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 1: we could debate whether he has a chance against anybody,

477
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: but at least I think this was an important scene.

478
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 1: And I am really getting this weird feeling now. And

479
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: maybe it's because my pick to win the Dan thing,

480
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 1: Kim is ultimately out of the game right now. But

481
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it should be these three if

482
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: they're smart, Nick, Denise of Michelle, Right.

483
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 6: I found exactly the same thing when I think Denise

484
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 6: referred to them as a take three. Who are you

485
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Speaker 6: voting for? If you're on the jury between Denise, Michelle,

486
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 6: and Neck. I mean Neck get out of here. But

487
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 6: between Michelle and Denise, it would be a real conundrum

488
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 6: for me.

489
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would pick Nick out of those because I

490
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 7: think he's played the game well these last couple of weeks,

491
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 7: because he was in the line of fire what two

492
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 7: or three weeks ago now, and then last night you

493
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 7: saw it. He's kind of just ducking away while everyone

494
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 7: else is fighting and he's slithering through. So I think

495
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 7: he's played the game pretty well to this point, and

496
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 7: he's kind of inoffensive like that, like people, no one's

497
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 7: got real hostility toward him right now, whereas a few

498
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 7: of the other players they have, And so Nick could

499
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 7: just sort of find his way cruising along here and

500
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 7: make it through to the final So I sort of

501
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 7: like that strategy that, like, you know, you were the

502
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 7: guy that everyone wanted out a couple of weeks ago,

503
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 7: but now he's like everyone's off me. Now they run

504
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 7: to someone else.

505
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: It's great.

506
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 5: I'm finding him. I'm finding him a little offensive though

507
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 5: we'll get we'll get to some other many offensive things

508
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 5: that he's done in this episode, but in particular when

509
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 5: he plays dumb with.

510
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: Tony Oh, that was such a great scene.

511
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 5: And Nick's a lawyer. He's obviously very he's intelligent. He

512
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 5: knows these questions that are gonna come at him. That's

513
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 5: what he does for a living. And Nick just asked

514
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 5: him a simple question. Hey, is Kim trying to come

515
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 5: get me? Yeah, I'm sorry, Tony asked Nick. But he's

516
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 5: he's playing Woody Harrelson.

517
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 3: And white Man can't jump.

518
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 5: He's just he's just mister oblivious. Sure, I guess, but

519
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, yeah, he's slithering by right now.

520
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 5: But we'll get to some more. There's some some wild

521
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 5: stuff that happens to I.

522
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: Told Nora this. What I just said to you guys

523
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: is like, I don't know. I'm getting this weird feeling

524
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: that we're going to have a Nick Michelle Denise final three,

525
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: like all upset. She's like, oh no, I can't be back.

526
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: No I'm not She knows anybody but the lazy vampire.

527
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: That's what he said. So now I can only think

528
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: of Nick as but Lee, I'm with you Nick. Nick,

529
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, is growing on to be bor and

530
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: bored me just because I find him hilarious. More something

531
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: about him is and like that scene the task just

532
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: alluded to was killing me. When he's like, oh ah,

533
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: trying to remember, it's all like, this is what I

534
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: would do. That's exactly what I would do because I'm

535
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: not a good liar, so I would be screwed. I'd

536
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: be like the Nick out there, except I'm not a sexy,

537
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: lazy vampire.

538
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, who did I speak to about five minutes ago? Hmmm,

539
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 7: let me just see if I can kill some time

540
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 7: and then just say any name that I know you're

541
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 7: gonna like to hear.

542
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: Okay, it's so funny.

543
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 4: Well, at least Nick has been on the right side

544
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 4: of the vote for the last four votes. Though Michelle

545
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 4: it feels like it is just winging it. She's like

546
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 4: putting down a name, maybe he'll be on the right

547
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 4: well who knows.

548
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, but talking about inoffensive that's Michelle Like she literally

549
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 6: gave away her advantage to the guy she voted for,

550
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 6: and she's probably still on Jeremy's good side. So that

551
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 6: is an awesome social game to me.

552
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: Oh I JD. I agree. I don't think Nick has

553
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 1: a chance if it's these three. Like as much as

554
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm loving Nick, if it's Nick, Denise and Michelle, I

555
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: think it's a fascinating vote between Denise and Michelle, because

556
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: Denise will have maybe the better resume. We know that

557
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: big Sandra move. She's won some challenges, but Michelle's got

558
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: the social game locked down. I think a lot of

559
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: people on the jury like her.

560
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, if it yeah, I mean, if it was, if

561
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 6: it was still a Final two type of game, which

562
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 6: we know it's not. Denise is definitely taking Nick, just

563
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 6: the same way she took Malcolm.

564
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, took Malcolm out you mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.

565
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: After all this this this sort of Nick scene here,

566
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: we get a little idol hunting time. They figured it out, well,

567
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: Sophie said, you a night, Well there must be an

568
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: idol back out here. So while they're looking, Ben and

569
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: Tony discussed Kim trying to make a move on Tony

570
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: and that's where that comes up. And then, you know,

571
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: actually right before Ben finds, right before he finds the idol,

572
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: he does slip in that little line to Tony about

573
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: you know, is Nick with us or not? And Tony

574
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: is convinced he is. I thought this was a little

575
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: fascinating little thing to slip in there too. Tony's like, yeah, yeah,

576
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: Nick's with us. He's a lazy vampire. He's on our team.

577
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: But but Ben's a little skeptical where Nick lies in

578
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: this game at this moment. Anyway, Ben finds the idol

579
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: and like Tony is two feet away from him, I

580
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: don't know, foot and a half behind him, and Ben

581
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: I think, just like his gut reaction is to do

582
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: the like try and be sneaky, sneaky and hide it,

583
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: and Tony's like, what the hell are you doing? Like,

584
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm right here, man, that's not cool. And like I thought,

585
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: Tony went on a little long about like, you know,

586
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: scolding Ben for like how sneaky he was.

587
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 5: No, he's a talker. I think he goes on along

588
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 5: with everything.

589
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a fast talker at that. Yeah.

590
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 4: I also thought though, there was like a change in

591
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: his demeanor and his eyes like he knew in that

592
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 4: moment Ben didn't trust them. And then we see in

593
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: Ben's confessional he's admitting I don't trust Tony. And you know,

594
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 4: Ben has not given Tony really any sort of any

595
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: sort of go forward in this game. You know, he's

596
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 4: he's beefing with him about we got to try and

597
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 4: get Kim. And Ben's still like, no, we got to

598
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 4: go for Jeremy. Tony keeps pitching Kim, we gotta go

599
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 4: for Jeremy. So I mean, clearly they are not one

600
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: hundred percent together. And I thought that that really solidified

601
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: it with Tony because you can just see the darkening

602
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 4: in his eyes, like that was pretty weird that you

603
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: would try that right after we made up, right in.

604
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: Front of me.

605
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 5: And it is incredible to me that Ben ended up

606
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 5: voting for Kim and going with Tony, because all the

607
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: way to the end it seemed like Ben was a

608
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 5: resilient This isn't cool, man, This isn't cool. We'll get

609
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 5: to travel council later. Even production made some great, great

610
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: U changes. It's but hold on, hold on, let me

611
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 5: let me throw this in here now has nothing to

612
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 5: do with this episode. A great discovery for me on Wikipedia.

613
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 5: It shows you who voted for who in last night's episode.

614
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 5: Already it's up Oh wow, wild we're gonna find an

615
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 5: anti viral medication, and now we're gonna find out right

616
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 5: after it's already up there. Wow.

617
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: We then go, well, I guess that scene ends with

618
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, them sort of making up. At least Ben

619
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: scooping up his bride Tonian and taking him off into

620
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: the woods to have sex. As I believe this, that's

621
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: a secret scene that you can also find.

622
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 4: Tony was trying literally anything to get Ben to put

623
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: him down. You're gonna hurt your back, You're gonna step

624
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: on something. It's just like anything, please put me down.

625
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: I have to admit I thought they were gonna fall.

626
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 4: I thought he's gonna trip on something and go down,

627
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: But yeah he did. The next scene, it seemed unity challenge.

628
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: And the twist to this one is Probes tells us

629
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: we're playing for two necklaces. I mean, we're at the

630
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: final eight here and we're playing for two necklaces. Maybe

631
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: that we're helped or they're encouraged to do that because

632
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: we got four men and four women and it's going

633
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: to be the last man and woman left standing. They're

634
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: going to each win an immunity necklace and both two

635
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: fire tokens. The challenge is to stand on a very

636
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: narrow perch with your hand above your head, which is

637
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: tethered to a bucket. You know that bucket drops you're out.

638
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: Probes takes us through the iterations of this challenge, how

639
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: it was so easy. It lasted for six hours for

640
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: crying out loud the first time they did it. Then

641
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: they add the little thing you got to stand on,

642
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: and now the new twist is you can't use your

643
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: other arm to sort of prop up the hand you

644
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: have up in the air. Lee, What do you think

645
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: of the challenge overall?

646
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 7: When he said though doing it for six hours, like,

647
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 7: I can't believe you were able to stand there for

648
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 7: that long. That's incredible. I didn't think though, it was

649
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 7: as tough as some of the other ones we've seen.

650
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 7: Like I thought, if you can sort of just hang

651
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 7: in there, but making it so you can't put your

652
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 7: other arm up is pretty you know, it's pretty good there.

653
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 7: But of course when he brought out the food, the

654
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 7: milk and the cookie or the peanut butter there and

655
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 7: the cookies and stuff, I thought a couple of them

656
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 7: dropped way too quickly for that.

657
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: God.

658
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought, you can't. I can't believe with it

659
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 7: with two you know, like you were only playing against

660
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 7: you know, the same sex of your for immunity. Yeah,

661
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 7: I thought, there's no way they're gonna they're going to

662
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 7: jump out so easily. Knowing how far into the game,

663
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 7: they are, but a couple of the girls went, who

664
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 7: was that? Michelle went, and then or Kim went, and

665
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 7: then Michelle. I think, yeah, well Jeremy dropped.

666
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: Jeremy drops first, then then touches the structure and he's

667
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: like it's got some integrity to him, as Probe says,

668
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: thanks for letting me know, man. Sarah drops next. Nick

669
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: then tries to make a tawny An offer, but he declines.

670
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: He says, no, I want to win three in a row.

671
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: And then yeah, we get to the fifteen minute inmoke

672
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: and Props tempts the survivors to step down, like you

673
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: said with the peanut butter chocolate cookies and milk, and

674
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: he says, prope says, you will eat until the challenge

675
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: is over is what he says, as he always does.

676
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: Kim's like, okay, I'll eat. She drops, Michelle's like screw that,

677
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm eating. So Denise wins the women's and then Nick

678
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: flips it around and asks Tony for a token if

679
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: he steps down. Tony immediately says yes, So Nick drops

680
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: and that's it. So Denise's one, Tony's one. But I

681
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: can't believe, especially Nick, he should have never been allowed

682
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: to bite of the food because the challenge was over.

683
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: But you know, the three of them got just appeared

684
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: to get to gorge a little bit even though they

685
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: were chowing down on the benches. Super whack.

686
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: I thought this whole thing was ridiculous. I was like,

687
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 4: first of all, that huge blob of peanut butter looks disguststing.

688
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: That looked like what kind of fell out of the

689
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: sky onto Tony's arms earlier in that episode. But then

690
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 4: Kim and Michelle give immunity to Denise. That's stupid to

691
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: begin with. Nick gives immunity to Tony. That's stupid to

692
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 4: begin with. And then they all get to eat on

693
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 4: the benches after words, after Jeff just told us, you're

694
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 4: eating until it's over. As soon as those three drop,

695
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 4: it's over. This was just disappointing to me.

696
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, Listen, I like this challenge when it's

697
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 6: six hours long because because that's part of it. It's

698
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 6: it's not so much the holding your your arm up,

699
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 6: although that's you know, that's hard, but it's the trotting

700
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 6: out of the food and the making deals with players

701
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 6: and the conversations that happen on while they're sitting there

702
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 6: with their hands up and they're they're dying. And then

703
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 6: first it's a it's a mount of peanut butter and

704
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 6: some milk. I mean, who cares. But then he brings

705
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 6: out pizza and beer, and then he brings out a

706
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 6: steak dinner, and then he brings out a mystery thing.

707
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 6: And I used to love that on Survivor when they

708
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 6: would tempt people like that, people who have been in

709
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 6: the game this deep and they're starving and they're in

710
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 6: the sun, they're sweating, and it's just like I do

711
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 6: I risk the two million dollars for a mount of

712
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 6: peanut butter. It's just so much more dramatic and so

713
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 6: much more interesting to me.

714
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent agree at least how I love

715
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: having in every Survivor season one super potentially long challenge,

716
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like you're saying that could

717
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: just go for hours upon hours. Now, look, JD. Put

718
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: yourself into producer's shoes, put yourself in even probe shoes,

719
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: Like I guess at some point you have done some

720
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: of these that lasts for ten hours, you probably don't

721
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: want to do that again.

722
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, as a producer, hundred percent I'm happy if I'm

723
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 6: a camera guy and this thing ends. It ends in

724
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 6: fifteen minutes. But it's just better TV. And also, as

725
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 6: far as the two immunities go, why what's the point

726
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 6: of that? Yeah, imagine if it had got gotten down

727
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 6: to Tony and Denise the showdown that we would have

728
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 6: gotten because they weren't going anywhere. Tony wouldn't even put

729
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 6: his arm down because he didn't want to get wet.

730
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 6: He was going to be up there for hours.

731
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if.

732
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, at one point, Parverty beat Rupert in

733
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 4: this challenge, So it's not like there's a huge disparity

734
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 4: between the two gen Oh yeah, yeah, definitely not.

735
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 5: That was hilarious how Nick was sitting there, Nick, I'm

736
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 5: sorry Tony is in this challenge. He's got his hand

737
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 5: above his head, and he asked Denise after it's all

738
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 5: said and done, please come help me. I won, I won,

739
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 5: but I don't want to get wet, so can you help?

740
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 5: Can you help me dismount? Please? And we mentioned the

741
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 5: people who bowed out of this challenge for whatever reason,

742
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 5: Kim and Michelle and Nick. Kim and Michelle at least

743
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 5: showed remorse at tribal counsel when Jeff asked them, you

744
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 5: know that was a stupid move. Twenty nine thirty days

745
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 5: in here, their brains weren't in the right place. But

746
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 5: Nick Nick in a testimonial later, in a confessional later,

747
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 5: he bragged, he bragged him but I got one fire

748
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: token and I got peanut butter cookies perfect.

749
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 7: And he didn't get out.

750
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: That. He was fine, I mean a lazy vampire.

751
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 5: Yeah. But but if I'm Nick, I'm furious watching this

752
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 5: episode last night because when they walk away from that,

753
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 5: there's a slow mo move. It's a it's a couple

754
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 5: episodes later, or a couple scenes later. They go to commercial,

755
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 5: it's a slow mo of Nick walking by no shirt on,

756
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 5: and you just get a shaky boob and a shaky guy.

757
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 5: He's gotta be on fire right now. I would be. Anyways.

758
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: I saw a tweet about something like that before.

759
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 4: He basically said, imagine you grew up super poor and

760
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 4: then you win a million dollars, you'd get really fat too.

761
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 7: I was like, respect, man, he's got a dead bud

762
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 7: going there. That's great. I mean they're in right now,

763
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 7: so he's just working. He's working the TV audience as well.

764
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 7: What a great move this man is.

765
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: So let us come on.

766
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 4: Fifteen minutes they're bringing out food. You can walk to

767
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 4: the store and walk back and that's like fifteen minutes

768
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 4: and then you go and open up your peanut butter

769
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 4: and eat it like you haven't done a survivor challenge

770
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 4: by walking your groceries something.

771
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 7: But but did you see how much that was sweating

772
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 7: there as well? I think that's what not taking into account.

773
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 7: I mean it's nine, yeah, they're on day twenty nine. Yeah,

774
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 7: and you're just like, ah, yeah, I need I need something.

775
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 7: I need to give in here to a guilty pleasure,

776
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 7: like I'm willing to risk going you know, because you're

777
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 7: not even out of the game anyway, I'm willing to

778
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 7: take that risk just to satisfy and indulge in here.

779
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 7: So I think that plays into it.

780
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: I think another part of it too, maybe right I'm

781
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: just trying to put myself in there, in their shoes,

782
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: in their aqua socks, is you're like, I can't last

783
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: another minute longer, like I'm about to fall off this

784
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: damn thing, and Denise looks good or whatever, like just

785
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: that idea of like I'm about to drop anyway, Like

786
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm Jeremy Benner, Sarah, so help, I might

787
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: as well have a bite of peanut butter. I guess,

788
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, maybe, but.

789
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 5: That's yeah, yeah, that's what Nick and Nick I assume

790
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 5: was thinking because he he was begging for a deal twice,

791
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 5: as you said, like he seemed like he was done

792
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 5: at the beginning, and that's potentially because his belly was

793
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 5: pulling him down. Listen. I love Nick. He's a nice guy,

794
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 5: very nice guy. And I think I picked him as

795
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 5: my winner because he is. He is the Woody Harrelson

796
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 5: white man, can't jump oblivious guy. And maybe he'll get there,

797
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 5: but I don't get it. Let's get the tribal council.

798
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: Right, No, no, no, no, no, no no. Let's bring up

799
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room with this this challenge because

800
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: chaos casts a former Survivor contestant. She tweeted last night.

801
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: She pointed out, there's photos of it you can see,

802
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: and you can see it in the challenge. Why was

803
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: Tony the only person with a bent elbow in this challenge?

804
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 5: Why? I disagree from that angle, it's definitely bent. But

805
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 5: mister ben Bent also has a bent elbow. Later on,

806
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 5: if you from the wide angle, you see Ben's elbow,

807
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 5: and he's probably a tall guy, so that's probably plays

808
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 5: into a plays a part. But his elbow was also bet.

809
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: So you think maybe maybe every contestant wherever they wanted

810
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: to hold their hand a little bit, had a little

811
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: wiggle room, is sort of what you're saying, task like

812
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: you go straight up, or you could bend it a

813
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: little bit.

814
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, I possibly or finally, set design made a

815
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 5: little bit of a mistake and made Tony's a touch longer.

816
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: Well that's what asked Cassa is saying. She's saying he

817
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: was helped by production a little bit.

818
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 6: No way, they draw for random spots, so if if

819
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 6: he had an advantage, it was just blind luck that

820
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 6: he got one.

821
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: No, they draw for random spots. But then I assume

822
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: they have to they have to change the height depending

823
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: on the person. That's a good point, right, So she's

824
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: saying that they've gave him an inch or two a

825
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: little bit.

826
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 5: Check check Ben's as well. It's it's definitely bent.

827
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: Okay. Interesting, all right, Well now let's get to uh

828
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: back to camp figuring out who the hell are going

829
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: to vote? For we get Kim, Michelle, Denise, Ben and

830
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: Lazy Vampire Nick talking about cooking. Really they're talking about

831
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: cooking because, you know, splitting up Tony and Sarah that's

832
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: on the back burner, as they say, Jeremy is back

833
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: on the front burner or still on the front burner.

834
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: He's still simmering. So we're just going to get rid

835
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: of Jeremy. Uh. One question about this for you guys

836
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: in this idea of like, well, yeah, Tony one, you know,

837
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: Tony one another immunity challenge. We can't get rid of

838
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: him again. We all want to because we know he's

839
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: going to beat us all, but we can't. Why don't

840
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: they go, let's get rid of Sarah?

841
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

842
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: Like what I mean? I know they don't like, Okay,

843
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: of course there's idols, and Tony ultimately could have and

844
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: would have played one for I get all that, But

845
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: at that moment they maybe don't know that or they're

846
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: not thinking of that, Like why aren't they just like,

847
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: let's just get rid of Sarah. I think the genders

848
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: are playing a role here.

849
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 4: I think at that point, Kim, Denise and Michelle are

850
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: looking at Sarah and say, if we get down to

851
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 4: seven people, we have four women.

852
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: That's the numbers right there. And I think that that's.

853
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 4: Probably low key a reason why Tony has been flipping

854
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 4: these votes to get Sophie and Kim out the past

855
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 4: couple of weeks, because once we get further into the season,

856
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 4: that's when all the men start panicking that the women

857
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: are going to join up together. Despite the fact that

858
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 4: the men are always together from the very start of

859
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: the show, trying to have a bro alliance, they're always

860
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: so scared of a four women alliance because we saw

861
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 4: what happened when Eric gave away his immunity and poverty

862
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 4: basically played him with Sire and Amanda, right, So I

863
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 4: think that they are you know, I think that just

864
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 4: as the men tend to be scared of women joining

865
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 4: up together, the women do know that there is power

866
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 4: and numbers and they could add up pretty easily.

867
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

868
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 6: Kim even says at one point, I have a good

869
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 6: relationship with Sarah, and she is a number for me

870
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 6: if I can if I can salvage that relationship, that's great.

871
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: But I agree one hundred percent with.

872
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: You, Trey. Yeah, I think that's you're both right. I

873
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: think Kim, Kim has a relationship with Sarah and she

874
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: wants to keep her around, and she's just so hell

875
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: bent on let's just get rid of Tony because then

876
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: Sarah will be right there with me. She'll be in

877
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: my pocket. I'll just pick her up. But I really

878
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: think they should have she should obviously because she's gone

879
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: or now on Edd, she should have reconsidered that, and

880
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: they could have made Sarah. And it was wasn't it

881
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: Adam way back when he was the one really saying pushing,

882
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: like why don't get rid of Sarah? Like she's damn

883
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: good at this game? And uh and is of course

884
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: tied at the hip with Tony. Why don't we get

885
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: rid of him? And I was like, nah, no yet,

886
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: not yet, not yet. So he got brushed off and packed,

887
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: you know, had to go to Edge of Extinction. We

888
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: so so again, Jeremy's on the front burner. Okay, it's

889
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: gonna be Jeremy. Everybody looks like they have agreed with this.

890
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: Michelle finds out she knows this. Of course, she's sitting

891
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: right there. She's sad that it's going to be Jeremy.

892
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: She's talking to Kim, talks about this idea of like

893
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I try and help him out.

894
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: This is where Ben ruins everything by taking Kim's let's

895
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: get rid of Tony's backup plan to Tony. He takes

896
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: that again to Tony and again they talk about Nixon.

897
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: You know where he lies in this game? Is he

898
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: with us? Is he not? And you said it already

899
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: task that scene where he does the worst lying job

900
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: ever because Ben says, we've just been talking about getting

901
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: rid of you. You're the backup plan, but we can't

902
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: get rid of you now because you won the necklace

903
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: or whatever. Tony goes to Nick and says, what were

904
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: you guys doing over there? What were you guys talking about?

905
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: My name come up? And then yeah, Nick does the

906
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: worst lying job of all time, but it's pretty funny.

907
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: So Tony's now worried that Kim is going to use

908
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: these low tiered threats as he calls them, and band

909
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: together and get rid of you know, him and some

910
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: of the other big names. So he says, this is

911
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: Tony quote. If Jeremy goes home, we're screwed, and this

912
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: speaks to what you said, Trey, because the ladies are

913
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: gonna stick together and possibly use Nick that's Tony's you know,

914
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: word for word. Tony sees this like women's alliance, whatever

915
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: you want to call it, and then just bring in

916
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: a nick and everybody else is screwed. So Tony goes

917
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: to Ben with the one on one little plan and says, hey,

918
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: I'll give you a fire token. He starts with that,

919
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: let me pitch my case of why we need to

920
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: keep Jeremy around. You know, come on, man the soldier,

921
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: two cops and a fireman. Oh, we'll stick together, We'll

922
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: save the world. We're like a paw patrol here. So

923
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: he says that to to Ben and is really trying

924
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: to you know, convince him, like we gotta keep Jeremy around.

925
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 1: So this is where it gets wild. Michelle tells Jeremy

926
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: she's got the fifty to fifty coin flip advantage, and

927
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, she gives it to him. Was anybody surprised

928
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: she handed that over to him?

929
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 6: I mean not really, to be honest, I don't think

930
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 6: she has a lot of confidence in what it does.

931
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 6: You know, it is a fifty to fifty thing, so

932
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 6: it could literally be nothing.

933
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: Yep. So she hasn't been practicing. Yeah, she flipped it twice.

934
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: And it came up once she's like, oh yeah, fifty.

935
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 6: To fifty Yeah, So I mean, and it's just it's

936
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 6: a good move for her. It's more valuable to her

937
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 6: to give it away as far as her social game goes.

938
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 7: I think, but why why is that though? Why is that?

939
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: Though?

940
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 7: JD? Why wouldn't she keep it for herself in case

941
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 7: she needed it?

942
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean because she feel safe, I guess.

943
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I suppose so.

944
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

945
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 7: But also, you know, we've seen throughout the previous few

946
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 7: episodes if someone gives away something. I know, this wasn't

947
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 7: like in front of other people, so no one saw

948
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 7: her do it. But it's kind of viewed as all,

949
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 7: you know, almost like a bit of a dick move

950
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 7: to do that. You know, Like I'm going back to

951
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 7: when Sarah gave Nick like the Chinese meal that night,

952
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 7: you know, and people were like, ah, that's you know,

953
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 7: that's a crappy move because people are sort of seeing

954
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 7: it almost as if you like, you're trying to show

955
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 7: that you're a good person, do you know what I mean?

956
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, But giving away a reward is a lot different

957
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 6: than giving away an idol. Right, The main risk that

958
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 6: you that you do is that you expose that I

959
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 6: have an alliance with this person. But she did it

960
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 6: in private anyways, So as far as the jury or

961
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 6: anybody else is concerned, it's Jeremy's advantage and they don't

962
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 6: even know what it is yet.

963
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: Does Jeremy give it back to Michelle?

964
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: It seemed like he was keeping it forever. I don't know.

965
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 3: I got that impression, but don't I don't know.

966
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's immediately when I thought, I was like, oh,

967
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: is he going to just give that back to her now?

968
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: Because I'm with you, Jade, I got to read that.

969
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: He was like, no, this is mine now, thank you.

970
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: We do The one other thing before we had to

971
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: tribal council is we finally get Jeremy sitting down with

972
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: Ben to talk to him, and Jeremy, you know, pleading

973
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: to Ben like we need each other. I'm trying to

974
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: build trust back with you, man, Why are you not

975
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: talking to me? Like stop being a damn child basically,

976
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: and like let's come together because we can't if we

977
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: let these other people get together, then we're both screwed

978
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: coming in. We may not like each other, but we

979
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 1: got to work together. We got a real like Kobe

980
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: shack situation here one Jeremy and Ben, they could still

981
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: win championships. They don't have to like each other, but

982
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: they still got to, you know, trust each other. I

983
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: guess out there on the floor. But yeah, anything else

984
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: before we head into tribal Council. I know I threw

985
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: a lot out there with all these like Tony and

986
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: Ben and then Michelle and Jeremy and then Jeremy and Ben,

987
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: Like there was a lot going on here. I thought

988
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: it was a It was confusing, And we'll get to

989
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: tribal Council and the whispering and all that again. But

990
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: anything else to add before we get to Night twenty

991
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: nine with Jeff Probes. Okay, we start Tribal Council by

992
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 1: discussing this just the concept of making it to another day,

993
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: and when you do, you can get a clean slate

994
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: in this game. You know, This is what Kim is

995
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: pitching to Probes and to everybody out there. Tony sort

996
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: of he disagrees with it. He's like, actually, it's like

997
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: forget forget day to day. It's more like hour to hour,

998
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: minute to minute, where it's always changing and you could

999
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: be on the bottom and suddenly you're on the top.

1000
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: And then you know, Probes tells the jury spills the

1001
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: beans that Kim, Michelle and Nick all step down. You

1002
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: see poverty's reaction. You see the jury's reaction. That's never

1003
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: a good sign. You know. Like they're over there basically

1004
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: running marathons with coconuts and they're like, you held your

1005
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: hand in the air for fifteen minutes, you step down

1006
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: for peanut butter? Like what, man? That's never a good look.

1007
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: And Tassi said it, like Kim and Michelle basically were like, yeah,

1008
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: well that was stupid. You know, we we really regret

1009
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: that that was just a dumb, you know, in the

1010
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: moment decision and could come back to bite us in

1011
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: the ass.

1012
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 6: They also lay it on pretty thick as well, right,

1013
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 6: oh yeah, oh, we are so regretful.

1014
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 3: But I don't think they're that regretful.

1015
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: And then the whispers start up, and it's it's Jeremy

1016
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: and Tony that start whispering, and Jeremy telling Tony he's

1017
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: got this fifty to fifty advantage. You know what do

1018
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: I do here?

1019
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 5: Man?

1020
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are these guys aren't tight. They're

1021
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: obviously each other a ton of stuff here and Ben

1022
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: notices them talking and is seem I mean, he appears mad, paranoid, mad,

1023
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: upset of like, here we go again. And then you know,

1024
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, two people start whispering to each other. That

1025
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: means everybody starts whispering to each other, because we've got

1026
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: Kim whispering to Jeremy that Tony, Sarah and Ben are

1027
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: up to something. Shady. Sarah is whispering to Tony that

1028
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: they might be writing her name down. He'll need to

1029
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: play his idol for her. You know, Nick is whispering

1030
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: trying to confirm that the vote is just Jeremy. Still,

1031
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: then Kim's whispering to Jeremy. I got a plan. I

1032
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: got a plan.

1033
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 5: But we've got close captioning everywhere so we can see it.

1034
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 5: All phenomenal to say that you're right, forty seasons to

1035
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,959
Speaker 5: figure it out, but god, they did it.

1036
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: So are you okay? Tasks? And this is an open

1037
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: ended question for everybody to like, are you fine with

1038
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: whispering at travel Council if the producers are showing us

1039
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: what the hell they're saying to each other?

1040
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 5: I totally am. And it's kind of like a basketball game.

1041
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 5: You kind of don't have to watch the first three

1042
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 5: quarters of all the in terms of all the talk

1043
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 5: back and forth, because lately, in all the episodes basically

1044
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 5: that I've watched, it all happens at tribal Council and

1045
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 5: the whispers. So if you're thrown in the close captioning,

1046
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 5: it's fun to watch.

1047
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 7: Actually, this is my least enjoyable part of the of

1048
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 7: each show though now, because it's just it's just getting

1049
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 7: out of hand. You don't really know what any of

1050
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 7: it means either, and Jeff doesn't really seem to care,

1051
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 7: though he seems to kind of encourage it. He's happy

1052
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 7: to just let them go.

1053
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: But it was calling it like a horse race.

1054
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 7: He was, yeah, yeah, But you know, for a new viewer,

1055
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 7: this is the only part that I'm really kind of like,

1056
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 7: this is this doesn't this doesn't really add It did

1057
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 7: that one week, but now it's happening all the time

1058
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 7: and it's sort of it's predictable, and you're like, how

1059
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 7: can you possibly really make any sense out of it anyway?

1060
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 7: So what sort of what does it bring to the show?

1061
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 7: I mean, for me, it doesn't really add anything, So

1062
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 7: I don't like it, and it just and it seems

1063
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 7: to drag on for too long as well. And that's

1064
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 7: that's only what we're showing. It's probably going on for

1065
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 7: an hour or so at Tribal Council, but you know,

1066
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 7: the for the TV show, it's only a couple of minutes.

1067
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 7: But it's just it's annoint Yeah.

1068
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 6: I mean, my question is did they add the subtitles

1069
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 6: because the fans have not liked the whispering this season?

1070
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: Is that did they go back and.

1071
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 6: Recut this particular tribal Council. I think that's possible. I

1072
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 6: still think Skeets that I'm with you. I like the idea,

1073
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 6: your idea of everyone has to remain in their seats.

1074
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 6: If you want to send signals to somebody or play

1075
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 6: broken telephone or whatever, then that is your.

1076
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: You can risk it.

1077
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 4: Basically, the exciting thing is like you have to be

1078
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 4: so measured with your words when you're speaking to Jeff

1079
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 4: to send a message to the people you're trying to

1080
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 4: or to try to deceive the people that you don't

1081
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: want to know what you're doing. I thought that that's

1082
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 4: just an element of gameplay that is really lost when

1083
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 4: everybody's able to whisper to each other.

1084
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: So I mean, stay on those stools, if you ask me. Yeah,

1085
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: and that's never good in my opinion, to hear Tasse,

1086
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: especially comparing you to a basketball game, which is the

1087
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: other podcast we do that, Like, hey, the first three

1088
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: quarters of the show are sort of pointless because all

1089
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: these episodes of tasks to scene lately, and He's right,

1090
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: it's like, well, we just get to travel counsel and

1091
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: then we all get up and just whisper in each

1092
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: other's ear and then we sort of know as the

1093
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: as the audience or sometimes we don't what the hell's

1094
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: even going on. But all that other all those other scenes,

1095
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: all those other discussions, all that other stuff, didn't really matter.

1096
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: And I think that's my ultimate problem with the whole thing.

1097
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: It's like, even I get it, it's they're only picking

1098
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: and choosing what they want to show us to make

1099
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: the drama and build it up. And that's you know,

1100
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: you're you're still being steered in the wrong directions on

1101
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: purpose because of the editing to make great television. I

1102
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: get that. I mean, I'm not an idiot, but you

1103
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: lose some of that, or it feels like the importance

1104
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: of some of that is completely thrown out the window

1105
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: when they're just allowed to show up there and whisper

1106
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: to each other about all these other brand new plans.

1107
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: It does make it feel completely pointless to some extent

1108
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: the prior whatever thirty minutes that you just saw.

1109
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 6: Well, here's what I liked about it is that I

1110
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 6: think that the whole thing was sparked off because Tony

1111
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 6: got spooked for whatever reason, and he thought that Sarah

1112
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 6: was in jeopardy. That's the only thing that makes sense

1113
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 6: to me. I think that's why he turned to Jeremy

1114
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,479
Speaker 6: and said, hey, you're still voting the way we way

1115
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 6: we we said we were going to vote. That got

1116
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 6: Ben all paranoid, and that got everybody paranoid. But ultimately,

1117
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 6: where did the vote change or did it happen the

1118
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 6: way it was supposed to happen before they went into

1119
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 6: travel Council. I mean, I tend to think the former.

1120
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 6: I think that it ended up happening the way it

1121
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 6: was planned, But we just had everybody just was affected

1122
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 6: by the chaos and the confusion and the paranoia.

1123
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: But then ultimately that's what makes the incredible part of

1124
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: Sarah not playing in the idol, you know, from Tony

1125
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: like refusing it. Yeah, and then somehow Jeremy not even

1126
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: his damn fifty to fifty, you know, coin not flipping it. Yeah,

1127
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: Like that's the crazy part to me that they ultimately

1128
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: were like okay, okay, no, we won't play them, especially Jeremy,

1129
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: like and even Sarah, it's not hers either, Like I,

1130
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: you would definitely be playing somebody else's thing that they

1131
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: were playing for me in that situation, if I really

1132
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: don't know where the hell the vote's.

1133
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 6: Going, I think that Jeremy did convince Ben to not

1134
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 6: vote for him and to vote for Kim. And that's

1135
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 6: exactly that's sort of another reason why I think this

1136
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 6: whole let's shut Jeremy down and not talk to him

1137
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 6: at all. It was their strategy because Ben ultimately got

1138
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 6: convinced by Jeremy, I think, to vote for Kim. It

1139
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 6: was his biggest fear, and that's exactly what happened to him.

1140
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely see in the tribal council Kim shook

1141
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: right like she she knows, like, uh oh, I think

1142
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: it's me. You hear her, you know the whispers whatever

1143
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: the subtitles. She says to Sarah, look at me, is

1144
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: everything fine? What is Tony doing and you can hear

1145
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: the desperation in those words, like pleading to Sarah like

1146
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: what's going on? And then she knows she's toast right

1147
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: when she says to Ben and Jeremy like, I feel

1148
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: like I'm about to get screwed over by you two guys.

1149
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: And their reaction is not all that great. It's like

1150
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: she's like they sort of like no, you know, like whatever,

1151
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: but yeah they are. And then yeah, then we get Denise.

1152
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: Denise is just fed up. She's got the immunity necklace on.

1153
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 1: She's just tired of this, I think, and tells Jeremy

1154
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: to like basically shut up. Yeah, like you said. I

1155
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: think he said speak to the hand, JD. That's exactly it.

1156
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm done, And man, that was that was intense,

1157
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: that little exchange, like Jeremy going back at her like

1158
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: are you sure it's not just tonight? That was wild

1159
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: to me.

1160
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 6: He's got a lot of swagger for a guy who's

1161
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 6: been on the block for the last three or four

1162
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 6: tribal councils, right, I mean.

1163
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: God, so yeah, and then we you know, they go

1164
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: and vote and Propes asks if anybody wants to play anything,

1165
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: and unbelieved Tony's gonna play that. There is no doubt

1166
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna play the idol for Sarah. He spooked enough

1167
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: and wants to build her trust enough.

1168
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,959
Speaker 5: You don't think so, ta, I don't know what this cop.

1169
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 5: I don't know what mind games he's playing it. It

1170
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 5: definitely felt like to me that he was. Yeah, he

1171
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 5: was just putting it out there to appear to be

1172
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 5: in cahoots with somebody, to appear to have no But if.

1173
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 1: Sarah says, if Sarah says Tony I don't feel safe,

1174
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: give me the idol, I think he gives. I think

1175
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: he hands it.

1176
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 6: Over, baby, she literally said earlier in the show, if

1177
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 6: they're voting for me, you have to play your idol

1178
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 6: for me.

1179
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1180
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. As as retribution for the move that he

1181
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 5: pulled last week, I guess they're an alliance in that way.

1182
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 5: But the relationship game, as you said about Michelle earlier,

1183
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 5: she's playing a great game. I think Tony's just playing

1184
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 5: that up as well. But who the heck knows. I'm

1185
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 5: just I'm just buying everything Tony is selling right now.

1186
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: Well, then the more fascinating part too, is Tony in

1187
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: my mind like Tony convincing Jeremy to not play, to

1188
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: flip the coin, to not play the fifty to fifty advantage. Yeah,

1189
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 1: like he tells them, He's like no, unlike Jeremy, of course,

1190
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: like excruciated contemplation, like literally just screaming, doesn't like what of?

1191
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: I mean, hell of a hell of a call. I

1192
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: mean hell of putting a hell of a lot of

1193
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: trust in guys like Tony and Ben right there. But

1194
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: it worked out. Kim's voted out five to three, and

1195
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: we know that now. Kim, Denise, and Nick were the

1196
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: three votes.

1197
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 6: Also wanted to note Tony reassuring Jeremy every time his

1198
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 6: name was showed up right, like he's like, don't worry, man,

1199
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 6: don't worry. Like even when there was three names, he

1200
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 6: was like, don't don't worry. We got this, We got this,

1201
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 6: and we we did. And it was how does he

1202
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 6: have that confidence? It's crazy to me.

1203
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 4: He's got a better read on people than anybody else

1204
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 4: that's on the island, I think, because I just it

1205
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 4: just seemed like we were watching a mob boss scene

1206
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: where he's sitting there, hand on the shoulder of Jeremy's

1207
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 4: like it's all right.

1208
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: It's all right.

1209
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 4: The vote goes down, he just leans over to Benny's like,

1210
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 4: good job, Ben, you did your job. It was It's amazing.

1211
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 4: It feels like that's probably why he's like, yeah, Sarah,

1212
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 4: I can play this for you. I will do it

1213
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 4: if I want, if you want, because he knows she's

1214
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 4: not getting any votes. I mean she was, you know,

1215
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 4: she was of us certainly earlier in the episode, but

1216
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 4: also when everybody's whispering, she's the one that's just sitting

1217
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 4: there letting everybody whisper.

1218
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: So how scared was she really?

1219
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 4: And maybe it was performative for Tony to be like,

1220
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 4: I don't think you're getting votes, but I told you

1221
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 4: I would do it if you feel like you need it.

1222
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rob, I mean bus and Rob agrees with your

1223
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: assessment there. With Tony as the boss, dude, I think

1224
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: he calls him because you're a spot on Trey. That's

1225
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: exactly what it feels like, especially the Ben part. That

1226
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: part was so creepy. Ben looks like like he just killed.

1227
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 3: Somebody best friend.

1228
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, what did I do? And he's just like,

1229
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: it's okay, my son, it's okay, we'll be fine. You know,

1230
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: you're in the family.

1231
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 3: You're in the family, You're gonna be No, you're amazing guy.

1232
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Oh my god, yeah, I feel like that.

1233
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: So Kim's upset, of course, on her way out some

1234
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: some shady you know what going on back there, she

1235
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: gets lied to, especially I think from Jeremy and ben

1236
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: Wi who really got her, and she bequeaths her tokens

1237
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: to the three remaining ladies. There was one thing when

1238
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: you were talking about the women's alliance that I meant

1239
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: to slip in there, Trey. Let's not forget that. I

1240
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: don't have it in front of me. But a man

1241
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: has won this game. What how many times in a

1242
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: row are we at this point? The last four? I

1243
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: think might be, uh maybe four, maybe three, maybe four.

1244
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: We haven't had a woman a woman win in a while,

1245
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: and I think that is there is something there. So

1246
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, Kim, I believe, wants to see that again.

1247
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: Of course, why wouldn't you, And she gives her tokens

1248
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: to the three remaining Michelle, Denise and.

1249
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 4: Sarah, And at the very least Tony is smart enough

1250
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 4: to look and say, we know somebody else is coming

1251
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 4: back from edge of extinction.

1252
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: Who knows who?

1253
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 4: It's going to be so at the very least, the

1254
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 4: numbers are going to be even between men and women

1255
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 4: if a women, if a woman does end up coming

1256
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 4: back from Edge of Extinction, he's just playing to the

1257
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 4: next level, I think really right now.

1258
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and last last week it was really played up

1259
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 5: that right before Tribal Council, he went to Jeremy, as

1260
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 5: the sun was going down, he went to the He

1261
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 5: went there before Jeremy could have another conversation with anybody,

1262
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 5: and they're just not a lot of time between then

1263
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 5: and tribal council. But now that everything is sort of

1264
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 5: being decided a tribal council, I think from my, you know,

1265
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 5: my beginner's perspective, it just seems like Kim went way

1266
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 5: too early in this episode to try and make that

1267
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 5: move on Tony, and then Tony, he didn't wait until

1268
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 5: the sun went down. He went, He waited until darkness

1269
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 5: to make his move. And it's bonkers that it all

1270
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 5: came together to me that a five to three vote

1271
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 5: happened strictly because Tony in that back row. As you

1272
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 5: guys said, they plant them in the back row. I

1273
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 5: guess he was leaning over to Jeremy. Leaning over to

1274
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 5: Ben and made it happen like the boss from that

1275
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 5: back seat bonkers that I was shocking to me. I

1276
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 5: don't know which one was more shocking this week or

1277
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 5: last week that he was able to to do it.

1278
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 5: But back to back Jack's for Tony if Kim.

1279
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: If Kim doesn't, specially before the challenge which Tony ends

1280
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: up winning, if Kim doesn't throw out the Tony plan,

1281
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, like, Okay, we got to get him out.

1282
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: Everybody knows he's gonna win. We gotta get him out.

1283
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: It's a good question task like if she doesn't do that,

1284
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: is she safe for another week? Does this go somewhere else?

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01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: Does it go on Jeremy? Does it go? Who knows

1286
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: Sarah for crying out loud? Is somebody else targeted? And

1287
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: is Kim survive another week? I think that's fascinating.

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01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think she definitely made herself a target, especially

1289
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 5: with Sarah. They needed to peg off somebody, and Sarah

1290
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 5: is in back to the wall defensive mode. She just

1291
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 5: needs needs to shoot off somebody and the other Kim

1292
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 5: made herself a target.

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01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So if Jeremy keeps this fifty to fifty

1294
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: coin advantage, and doesn't give it back to Michelle. That

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01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: means the guys have all the power in terms of

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01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: advantages because Tony's got the idol. Still Ben's got the idol,

1297
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: which nobody knows about except Tony. We think, right and yeah,

1298
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: and then then Jeremy would have the fifty to fifty

1299
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: coin advantage. So the men with the advantages right now,

1300
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: unless Michelle just gets it back. Maybe they had a deal.

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01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 4: Nick has a blazer he can put on when whatever

1302
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 4: comes to it, if he needs to really dress it up.

1303
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: That's a shield. Jeff, I would like to play my blazer.

1304
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: What Yes, I am wearing my blazer, which means I

1305
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: am you know, any vote cast against me shall not count.

1306
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: Be amazing if you could just do that, make up

1307
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: the rules on the spot there. So yeah, let's ask

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01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: this question before we take away quick quick break and

1309
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: get to tree mail. Who's gonna win this coming back challenge?

1310
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: Let's just throw it out those make some predictions. Lee,

1311
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: who do you think comes back into the game from

1312
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: edge Windell?

1313
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 7: I hope he can somehow come back and win this

1314
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 7: whole thing. He's he's my guy from the start, so

1315
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 7: I'm going with a big win.

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01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, big.

1317
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 5: Yeah. We have a lack of female representation right now

1318
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 5: on the island, so let's let's bring a female back.

1319
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 5: I'm going with my CrossFit girl.

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01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 6: Natalie j She's your girl, right, hundred percent. That's who

1321
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 6: I have coming back and winning the game.

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01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: Okay, Natalie. So two of you saying Natalie come back,

1323
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: tray about you.

1324
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 4: Give me Parverty if it tends to be if it's

1325
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 4: an endurance challenge, you know, like a stand in some

1326
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 4: place sort of thing.

1327
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: She's really good at us.

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01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 6: Oh, she also has fire tokens to uh, presumably to

1329
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 6: win an advantage as well, right sure.

1330
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, we need a list of

1331
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: the fire token like count, you know, like who's got

1332
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: the most. I don't really have any clue anymore, do

1333
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: you gd know? Yeah? Eight fire tokens?

1334
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 3: Really, who does?

1335
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: Natalie has eight?

1336
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 4: Nick has four, Sarah has four, Tony has three, Denise

1337
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 4: has six. Oh, so I mean Parverty four. So eight

1338
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 4: and four is the most on edge of extinction.

1339
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw this out here. I'm gonna throw this

1340
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: out Maybe I said this earlier in the season two.

1341
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: I know, bus I can't remember, but do you think

1342
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: for this challenge that we're gonna see Edge of Extinction,

1343
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: that the people currently still in the game, the seven

1344
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: people left, we'll get to a watch the challenge happened,

1345
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: and actually, prior to the challenge get to put some

1346
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: of their fire tokens on people they want to come

1347
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: back in the game, you know, So like Denise could

1348
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: be like, I'm giving all my fire tokens to Kim

1349
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: or whoever. That would be.

1350
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 3: Fascinating, that'd be cool, very cool.

1351
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you can do it secretly too, like maybe

1352
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: it's not out in the open, or maybe it is.

1353
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, that you actually the people still

1354
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: in the game give their fire tokens to try and

1355
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: build up a head start or something. Whatever challenge or

1356
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: an advantage in whatever challenge could be could be in play.

1357
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: We will see, all right. So that's basically the episode

1358
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: from last night. I mean, yeah, the next time on

1359
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: Survivor it's there's a hunt for something on Edge. We

1360
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: see that again, m HM, and Sarah's pretty convinced that

1361
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: Tony and her are sitting ducks, that they're in a

1362
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: bad spot again. Maybe that has something to do with

1363
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: somebody coming back, we don't know, So it looks like

1364
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna be an awesome episode, and it's two hours long.

1365
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: We have five hours of Survivor left sad.

1366
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 5: It's sad, and Michelle and Jeremy seem to be making

1367
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 5: a pack to go after Ben. But who knows right

1368
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 5: right right right now?

1369
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: Yah know and Jeremy are definitely close, and you know,

1370
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: Michelle say like he's like family out there to her Jeremy,

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: so they're they're pretty they're tied at the hip to

1372
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: those two. So we'll see how far they can go.

1373
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: All right.

1374
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,959
Speaker 4: It has been fun watching Tony call the shots because

1375
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 4: he's won immunity for the past three episodes, which is

1376
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 4: something that hadn't happened before, so he's always had to

1377
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 4: be scheming rather than kind of bossing people around. I

1378
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 4: hope he finally loses immunity next week so we can

1379
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 4: see him scrambling and scheming rather than you know, just

1380
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 4: lording over people, which has been cool too, but that's

1381
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 4: not necessarily the Tony game.

1382
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens when he has to get crazy.

1383
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: I just want to, Yeah, will he what's he going

1384
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: to do with his idol? That's the most that's going

1385
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: to be interesting to see because at some point, you're right, Trey,

1386
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: he's not gonna win a necklace again. I mean, I

1387
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: don't know. I'd actually bet on that he doesn't win

1388
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: it again next week, four in a row. That would

1389
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: be crazy, crazy for him, especially, So what does he

1390
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: do with the idol? Does he just play it on himself?

1391
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: Does he try and make it go one more week?

1392
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: Does he give it to somebody else? And I think

1393
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: the fifty to fifty coin advantage has to be played

1394
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: next week, isn't that right?

1395
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what he said, Yeah, a couple of weeks ago.

1396
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a it's gonna it. Could we could potentially

1397
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 6: have a say, somebody comes back next week. I'm assuming

1398
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,959
Speaker 6: that's happening. We have another eight person travel council. Four

1399
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 6: of them could have immunity, which could be crazy.

1400
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: Right, And maybe I know it's a two hour episode,

1401
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: but maybe there's a double elimination one night too, right

1402
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: at one treble council or something like that. Maybe could be,

1403
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: could be We will find out, all right before we

1404
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,440
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Speaker 1: All right, treemail time, let's do it.

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Speaker 5: First. One, I've begun rewatching all the seasons I missed,

1434
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 5: kicking off with season twenty five. That one features the

1435
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 5: absolutely insufferable Abby Maria. As far as villains go, she

1436
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 5: is kind of the worst because you want her off

1437
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 5: your screen right away. So, who are y'all's top villains

1438
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 5: from previous seasons that you could actually root for? Off

1439
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 5: the top of my head, I think Rob Sandra and Poverty.

1440
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 5: Johnny Fairplay was too tough to root for, though I

1441
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 5: respected his ruthlessness. Best to y'all in this tough time.

1442
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 5: Maybe there be many wedgies and hidden immunity idols in

1443
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 5: your future. That's from stevens. So y'all's top villains from

1444
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 5: previous seasons that you could actually root for?

1445
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 3: That's tough.

1446
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm going to say the specialist Phil Sheppard

1447
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 6: from season twenty two Redemption Island, and he was also

1448
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 6: in Season twenty six Fans Versus Favorites, one of the

1449
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 6: weirdest guys to ever play the game.

1450
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 3: Right.

1451
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 6: He claimed the entire time he was playing that he

1452
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 6: was a former federal agent, which literally nobody believed, not

1453
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 6: the audience, not the players, not even the producers. I

1454
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 6: don't think in the finale they had somebody who claimed

1455
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 6: to have worked with him or trained with him at

1456
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 6: some point, but I don't think we ever got to

1457
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 6: the bottom as to whether or not he was an

1458
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 6: actual spy or federal agent. And he was just great television.

1459
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 6: And the reason I was rooting for him, and I

1460
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 6: think a lot of people were rooting for him, was

1461
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 6: because he was a legitimate crazy person, or at least

1462
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 6: acted like he was. And I think a lot of

1463
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 6: people wanted to believe that it was an act. Like

1464
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 6: he would go on these wildly emotional tangents in camp,

1465
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 6: he would walk around in pink man briefs and white

1466
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 6: dress shoes. Yeah, he would annoy everybody. And Rob recognized

1467
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 6: that he was a clear goat, and so he took

1468
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 6: him all the way to the end, and he and

1469
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 6: the fantasy was that during that final tribal Council, he

1470
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 6: would stand up and say, this was all an act.

1471
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 6: I just did all of this so that Rob would

1472
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 6: take me to the end and.

1473
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 3: So that you guys to just to deflect all the votes.

1474
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 6: And actual jurors admitted that if he had done that,

1475
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 6: they would have voted for him to win. But it

1476
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 6: turned out that he was just a crazy person.

1477
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1478
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he was great TV and I just loved

1479
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 6: watching him and then he ended up. My favorite moment

1480
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 6: was when he took those pink antis and burned them

1481
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 6: in the fire right before tribal Council and it.

1482
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 3: Was just awesome.

1483
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 6: So one of the one of the other castaways, buried

1484
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 6: his shorts randomly in the jungle and he found them.

1485
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 6: He claimed that his great great great grandfather came to

1486
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 6: him in a vision and told him where they were,

1487
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 6: and he just found them.

1488
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 3: It was just great TV.

1489
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1490
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 4: My favorite Philip Shepherd moment was when he was at

1491
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 4: tribal Council with Francesca and she's like, the guy doesn't

1492
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 4: even know how to pronounce my name. He's like, yeah,

1493
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 4: I do, it's Francesca. They're like they're like, uh uh,

1494
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 4: not quite, but it was just that the entire time.

1495
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 4: That and always saying the game is a foot, Yeah,

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01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 4: the game was often a floop with Philip Shepherd, what

1497
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 4: a crazy guy?

1498
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: Who's your answer, Trey?

1499
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 4: You can't talk villains on Survivor without talking Russell Hanson.

1500
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 4: The most disappointed I've ever been that somebody didn't win

1501
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 4: his season. But he lost because everybody hated him. He

1502
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 4: was just despised by his tribe mates. He would burn

1503
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 4: their socks, he would empty their canteens. He would just

1504
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 4: berate them and then belittle them in his confessionals. But

1505
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 4: he was a massive game changer. He was the first

1506
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 4: one to kind of figure out, well, they got to

1507
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 4: put these idols out here somewhere, why wait for a clue.

1508
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 4: Just went out and kept finding idols before anybody had

1509
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 4: ever thought to even start searching for idols. But the

1510
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 4: jury was just so bitter with the way that Russell

1511
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 4: had treated them for you know, six weeks or whatever

1512
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 4: it ends up being that there was no way they

1513
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 4: were gonna let him win. And then he came back

1514
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 4: and it was like kind of like his act had

1515
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 4: worn out at that point and people were just like

1516
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 4: very bugged at him. But uh, yeah, I loved Russell

1517
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 4: and I actually I.

1518
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: Actually think this is tough. Like even Rob, Sandra and

1519
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: Poverty to me don't really feel like villains. Yeah they don't.

1520
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: I understand that they played literally on tribes that were

1521
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: called villains and they were pegged like that, and and

1522
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: they've played so many times some of them that it changes.

1523
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: I get that too, but I just never really saw

1524
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: them as truly villains. So like Johnny Fairplay, Yeah, I

1525
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: mean he was. He was basically a wrestling character, yeah,

1526
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: and was playing it up and lied that his grandmother

1527
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: died and you know, that was his iconic move and

1528
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: whatever had everybody talking. So sure, he's more villain Russell hanss,

1529
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: no doubt a couple of the others you've said, But

1530
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: like there hasn't been I feel like the villain role

1531
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: in Survivor has sort of gone away over the last

1532
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, feels like ten seasons or something like that. JD.

1533
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you agree with that, Like it's

1534
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 1: not it's not there as much.

1535
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that there's there's less casting happening and

1536
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 6: more lets. It's almost like tryouts, right, Like the game

1537
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 6: has taken so much more seriously. Now, yeah, I mean

1538
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 6: there you won't find a brand En Hands for example,

1539
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 6: who was Russell's nephew, I believe who was? And again

1540
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 6: somebody who was sort of not quite with it, you know,

1541
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 6: and and was just there to sort of cause controversy,

1542
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 6: like like they brought him on just so that.

1543
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 3: He would be good TV.

1544
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 6: Uh And uh, who's another one? Abby Maria is another one.

1545
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 6: She was like, obviously she's going to cause a lot

1546
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 6: of problems, so let's cast her and see what happens

1547
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 6: kind of thing. But now it's like this person is

1548
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 6: going to be a great storyteller a and be a

1549
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 6: great player. And and they're way more interested in people

1550
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 6: being out of their comfort zone like a Mike White

1551
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 6: or a Cochrane than they are putting you know, uh,

1552
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 6: a fly in the ointment, so to speak.

1553
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure. And and and even just

1554
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: now the way the survivor you know evolved, it was

1555
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: but you know, back in the day, it was like

1556
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 1: how dare you like turn your back on someone right,

1557
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: Like you've given them your word and now you're going

1558
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 1: to be someone that is mean and ruthless and like

1559
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: that's that's like you could cast that as a villain

1560
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: right back then, But that like happens every episode now

1561
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: and we love it. We applaud it, like, yeah, turn

1562
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 1: your back on that person, Yeah, come on, flip on that. Yeah,

1563
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: totally switch it up. Like now, that's encouraged. So it's like,

1564
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: that's not that's not something a villain does. That's something

1565
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: that a good player does exactly. So it's completely changed.

1566
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: So that's a good question there, Stephen. Fun to tell

1567
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: me ask you this.

1568
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 4: Do you guys consider Coach a villain? Because I was

1569
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 4: doing a lot of research into this trying to remember

1570
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 4: my old villains.

1571
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: And he was always listed.

1572
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 4: But to me, he's just an eccentric and a liar

1573
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 4: and an over exaggerator and an incredible character.

1574
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like Philip really, yeah exactly, He's He's like, Wow,

1575
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: this is a real person. This is amazing that this

1576
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: person says all this stuff and they believe all this stuff. Yeah,

1577
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: but I don't see them as a villain, no, Trey,

1578
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't.

1579
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 4: When I agree, it's almost it's almost like an anti hero,

1580
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 4: right where you're like, this guy's just so ridiculous that

1581
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 4: you root for him.

1582
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't.

1583
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 6: You don't get the guys who look directly into the

1584
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 6: camera and say I'm the dragon Slayer and it just

1585
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 6: doesn't happen anywhere.

1586
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 1: One more. Let's slip it in here. This is a

1587
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: fun one for everybody who can answer this pretty quickly.

1588
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: I think, Hey, no dunks. I was looking at the

1589
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: rules for Survivor and they said you can bring only

1590
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: one luxury item with you during gameplay. I was wondering

1591
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: what you guys want to bring and why that's from

1592
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: Isaiah in Palm Bay, Florida. Now, I could be wrong.

1593
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: I don't think you can still bring luxury items.

1594
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 3: They don't mention them anymore.

1595
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, they used to be a thing. I don't think

1596
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: you can do it anymore. I could be wrong, but yeah,

1597
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 1: they definitely don't bring it up. But if you could,

1598
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 1: and you could back in the day, Lee, let's start

1599
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: with you. What's the one thing if you're allowed to

1600
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: bring the island that you bring and why? Well?

1601
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 7: Sunglasses? Really?

1602
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1603
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 3: What you're not brought up?

1604
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 7: I mean I never seen even wearing sunglasses. I'd be

1605
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 7: going crazy. I'll be squinting all day long. So yeah,

1606
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 7: i'd have my sunny's on. I'd bring probably probably three

1607
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 7: or four pairs, you know, because you might drop com

1608
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 7: brightm some on my steeling.

1609
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: Bring three or four pairs you can bring.

1610
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, I'm just and those are the things

1611
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 7: that really bothered me. When they're walking around, I'm like, oh, man,

1612
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 7: put some sonnies. I'm that glare is killing me.

1613
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: Kim was always holding her hand up to keep the

1614
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: sun out of her eyes.

1615
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 7: So that's what I'm talking about. You know, like it's

1616
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 7: so much fun when you're on the beach, but like

1617
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 7: when it's just so bright and sunny all day every day,

1618
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 7: you just after a while you're like, get me out

1619
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 7: of here. But and you're cool and and when you're

1620
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 7: talking to people, think about it.

1621
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to wear a tribal console. You'd be

1622
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 4: like a poker player at the World Poker.

1623
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: I think that's why they banned them, actually honestly that

1624
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be and I wouldn't.

1625
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 6: Be having sunglasses on it on this show or it's

1626
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 6: just it wouldn't work.

1627
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: You wouldn't work.

1628
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 6: You have to see also you have pupils. Man, just

1629
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 6: I think that you are addicted to your son glass.

1630
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 6: You go cold turkey, go out there for a couple

1631
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 6: of days you'll realize, well, don't stare at the sun,

1632
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 6: but you'll realize that, hey, these are a cratch man.

1633
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 3: I don't need man in.

1634
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 7: The eyes of the window to the soul JD. They

1635
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 7: say more than the mouth. Ever, could.

1636
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: You gd you let Leolas wear sunglasses in Vegas on

1637
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 1: our shold.

1638
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 6: That'd only because they thought it looked funny.

1639
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, I wore I wore sunglasses a couple of

1640
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 7: times out in San Francisco too, or Oakland for covering

1641
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 7: the wariors.

1642
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 5: Remember the.

1643
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: Man incredible teaste in sunglasses.

1644
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 7: No, no, no, hey, those ones I wore the first time,

1645
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 7: like three hundred and fifty bucks. One of the camera.

1646
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,440
Speaker 3: Crew in there. Good.

1647
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, they were very comfortable though, and they did

1648
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 7: their job. I was trying to, you know, trying to

1649
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 7: work out a deal to sort of keep them, but couldn't.

1650
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 7: Couldn't get it done.

1651
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: But you know, okay, okay, so you're taking sunglasses as

1652
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: you're luxuriator tasked. What are you taking?

1653
01:17:55,000 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 5: I'm taking my grass slidest like walking on the beach,

1654
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 5: but I like stepping on grass, so I'm gonna be

1655
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 5: wearing those on the beach. I actually do like walking

1656
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 5: on the beach. I would love to play Survivor, but no,

1657
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 5: grass slides are a terrible idea. I just get sand

1658
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 5: in them and really defeat the purpose.

1659
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: Sweaty. Yeah, so what are you taking?

1660
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 5: Can you? You can't take a fire starter?

1661
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: Right? No? No, that's a good point though.

1662
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 5: That's what I would definitely bring. The luxury item is

1663
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 5: non clothing, right because I'm I'm concerned about the rain.

1664
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 5: It is my concern. Okay, umbrella, an umbrella definitely. Uh,

1665
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 5: you know one of those golf umbrellas that are like

1666
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 5: seventeen feet wide.

1667
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:45,799
Speaker 1: A great way to build an alliance.

1668
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 4: Put up that huge umbrella, like only four allowed in

1669
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 4: who wants to talk strategy?

1670
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: That's brilliant. Okay, giant golf umbrella? Would I mean, sorry,

1671
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 1: what you have?

1672
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 3: Well, I would.

1673
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if they would allow this, but a

1674
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 6: bug spray because that's the one thing that I would

1675
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 6: would hate about being on Survivor is just getting eaten

1676
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 6: alive by mosquitos and whatever else is out there. So

1677
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 6: bug spray, and if they didn't allow that, I would

1678
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 6: take a beard comb to comb all of the bugs

1679
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 6: out of my beard.

1680
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,799
Speaker 4: I'm bringing the mini football yes here we Yeah, something

1681
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 4: for entertainment and something that everybody can use.

1682
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,839
Speaker 1: I suppose, you know, I was originally thinking.

1683
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 4: Maybe be nice to take a baseball on a baseball glove,

1684
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 4: But then what you're just throwing pop ups to yourself

1685
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 4: on the beach with no sunglasses.

1686
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 1: Ridiculous.

1687
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't even trust me, trust with everybody,

1688
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 5: trust me. A solo glove and ball doesn't do much

1689
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 5: during quarantine. Don't do it.

1690
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not a giant wall you can throw it

1691
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 1: off of out there to yourself.

1692
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 4: What you're saying, Danny's not throwing you grounders out there

1693
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 4: in the backyard.

1694
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 5: No, she doesn't. She's not into it. She's not the

1695
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 5: Danny on Survivor. She's not really right now, Danny boat rat.

1696
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 1: I thought about the like what you just picked their tray?

1697
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: That that crossed my mind too. I liked a little

1698
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 1: mini football, but I actually wanted something that's something that

1699
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: everybody could use to kill time, because that's huge, a

1700
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: lot of time killing out there. But football were apart

1701
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: from each other, so it's difficult to talk strategy, which

1702
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: is why I'm bringing a pack of cards.

1703
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, good one.

1704
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: I want to you know, we can play a million

1705
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: games with cards, and we can. Obviously you can bond

1706
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: and talk strategy still while you're playing cards.

1707
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 7: So how're you gonna want to pay our sunglasses on

1708
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,799
Speaker 7: when you're paying playing content both sides.

1709
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 1: No, I won't have them long.

1710
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 6: They haven't gotten a lot of strategy talk over their

1711
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 6: homemade checker game.

1712
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 3: No, it's just surprising. No, you think you're totally right.

1713
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 6: That's a great excuse to be together doing something with

1714
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 6: your hands, but talking strategy.

1715
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and just killing time for sure. All right,

1716
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: before we wrap this up, MVP of this episode, let's

1717
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 1: just go with that question. This week. We won't get

1718
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 1: into who gets voted out next or sent to edge next,

1719
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: because we already talked about who's coming back. MVP of

1720
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: the episode. Task one, you start us, who are you

1721
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 1: giving this one too? Well?

1722
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 5: Tony for all the reasons that we've mentioned, but I

1723
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 5: want to add this one in. There was a scene

1724
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 5: going a commercial where he was eating a coconut and

1725
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 5: it wasn't just a regular coconut. He had somehow shredded

1726
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 5: the coconut within the coconut and it looked appetizing. And

1727
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 5: that's such a skill. I mean, half of eating is

1728
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 5: just how it looks, because I wouldn't key presentation very key.

1729
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be into it just biting into a coconut.

1730
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 5: But if it was shredded like that Tony, right.

1731
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 6: I thought, I think I know the shot you're talking

1732
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 6: about it. I think that was race in that coconut.

1733
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 3: Wasn't that?

1734
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 7: I kept going a haw, we would have? I didn't

1735
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 7: know how we was. It was almost like that shaved

1736
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 7: ice that you know you can buy that was a.

1737
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: Luxury item, a shaved ice.

1738
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 5: You're right, Judy. I kept going back wondering how the

1739
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,919
Speaker 5: heck did he do that? And I kept asking Danielle,

1740
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 5: my wife, who is a chef, and she still had

1741
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 5: no idea. So I was I was very confused. He

1742
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 5: made it look so great, But I guess they do

1743
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 5: eat race. Is that part of the menu.

1744
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 3: That is the menu. Race, that's the race and anything

1745
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 3: they catch.

1746
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 5: Interesting an old race, coconut.

1747
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: Lea, what about your MVP?

1748
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 7: I'm going with Nick. I thought he played this week

1749
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 7: perfectly by not really being in trouble at all. He

1750
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 7: worked the deal to get the peanut butter and it

1751
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 7: didn't cost him anything, and he's kind of just flying

1752
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 7: under the.

1753
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: Radar right now.

1754
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 7: So the lazy vampire for me is in pole position

1755
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 7: to make a move, and I think it was a

1756
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 7: good week for him.

1757
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: Okay, do you yeah?

1758
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 6: I mean it's it's obviously Tony. But if if Tony

1759
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 6: or Sarah don't go home next week, I will be

1760
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 6: shocked because they're obviously in control.

1761
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 7: But Tony has another immunity, though doesn't either hidden one.

1762
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 3: He sure does, He sure does. But you can get

1763
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 3: voted out with an idol in your pocket.

1764
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a great read on people, so that

1765
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 1: would be surprising. Yep, you're you're not wrong.

1766
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 5: Maybe they can multiple eliminations next week, right, yeah?

1767
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: Probably? Yeah, Yeah, we're getting two for sure. I mean

1768
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: I would think, right, Trey MVP of this one. I mean,

1769
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:21,759
Speaker 1: Tony for me is the MVP.

1770
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 4: He's putting together a case for being on the Mount

1771
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 4: Rushmore of Survivor if he pulls off winning this season,

1772
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 4: no doubt about it. But second MVP, I'll give it

1773
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 4: to Jeremy. You know, he's been in the crosshairs the

1774
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 4: past three weeks, but he keeps figuring out a way

1775
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 4: to bury the hatchet with people he needs to to

1776
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 4: convince people to hook him up with advantages. You know,

1777
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 4: he was smart enough to not play the fifty to fifty,

1778
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 4: which maybe means he can keep Michelle on his side

1779
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 4: by giving it back to her, or maybe he's just

1780
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 4: won himself an advantage by tricking her and stealing it.

1781
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 4: I think he's done a good job of being in

1782
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 4: the crosshairs, but still, wait for it, surviving.

1783
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you're so right.

1784
01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 6: I mean, he everybody unanimously, everybody says he's the biggest

1785
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 6: threat in the game, and there's a reason for that

1786
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 6: that we haven't really seen because he's been on the

1787
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 6: bottom and he still survives being on the bottom this

1788
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 6: whole time. Now, is it Tony that's basically using him

1789
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 6: as a meat shield? I mean that is definitely part

1790
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 6: of it. Like he is, he's like going bodysurfing with

1791
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 6: Tony in shark infested waters, but he's bodysurfing, but Tony

1792
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 6: is surfing on top of Jeremy.

1793
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 3: Is what it is for me?

1794
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, it's a little puts. That's a fun question.

1795
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: If it's Tony Jeremy and let's just say, I don't know,

1796
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: just throw a nick in there. At the end, somebody

1797
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: that we don't think could win. Who wins the vote

1798
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 1: then if between Jeremy and Tony.

1799
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 6: It's interesting because a lot like we look back that

1800
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 6: last week, the Tony episode, quote unquote, there's a lot

1801
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 6: of stuff that happened that the jury might not realize,

1802
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 6: or the whole jury might not realize, like the whole

1803
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 6: extortion thing and the fact that he had found the

1804
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 6: idol and uh, and there's just a lot of stuff

1805
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 6: that I don't think everybody knows that Tony's done, other

1806
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,799
Speaker 6: than dominating they I don't think they realize the scope

1807
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 6: that he's dominated, you know what I mean. And and

1808
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 6: Jeremy is such a well liked guy and so yeah,

1809
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 6: I mean I would say Tony, but who knows.

1810
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just I just don't see both of

1811
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: them sitting there at the end because the other one

1812
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: will be like, I need to get rid of you

1813
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,719
Speaker 1: right Like it'd be weird if they I know they're

1814
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: doing it now, especially Tony with Jeremy like throwing them

1815
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 1: the olive branch and saying, I got you, man, don't

1816
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 1: use that thing. We're fine, We're good. At some point

1817
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: here very shortly, like they're gonna they're gonna take a

1818
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: shot at each other. I just they're not dumb, I

1819
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: mean right, Like basically they're like opening up themselves to

1820
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: a two million dollar paycheck if they get rid of

1821
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:54,600
Speaker 1: the other person. Maybe maybe, so we'll see I like

1822
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,520
Speaker 1: co MVP for me just quickly too. Jeremy and Sarah

1823
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: for having the balls to somehow uh you know, not

1824
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: have to play their child their advantages be hit the

1825
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: idol from Tony or the fifty to fifty coin. I

1826
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,879
Speaker 1: just I couldn't believe both of them were like, Nope,

1827
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: feel pretty good and we're fine. Somehow got out of

1828
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 1: there not hit. All right, that's it for today's show.

1829
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,799
Speaker 1: Get your questions in for next week's No Buffs episode

1830
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: email No Dunks at the Athletic dot com. Make sure

1831
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: you throw a survivor in the subject getting some fun

1832
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: survivor questions. Keep them coming. Reminder Later tonight on Thursday,

1833
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,959
Speaker 1: late late tonight, Lee has a one on one interview

1834
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: with the Bobcasts of Australian Sports Rue mccaffney. So that

1835
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 1: one for you Australians other it should be funny. You

1836
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: pump for that one.

1837
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 7: Leeli, I am, I am. This is gonna be the

1838
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 7: first ever Bruce Lee episode we've had one.

1839
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: Boy, are you gonna be wearing sunglasses when you're interview? Yeah?

1840
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: I think so. I think so.

1841
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 7: On that's when I feel my most comfortable.

1842
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 1: So Bruce will probably be wearing them too.

1843
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 7: At Nadalaie to be a beautiful sunny Moe.

1844
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, excellent, So that's later on Thursday night.

1845
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 1: On Friday's film session, we locked it in. We told

1846
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 1: you already. We're reviewing the nineteen eighty five basketball movie

1847
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,759
Speaker 1: teen Wolf starring Michael J. Fox.

1848
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 7: A teen let a sunglass wearing in that movie, A

1849
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 7: lot of sunglass wearing.

1850
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you like it so much. Okay, now

1851
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 1: it all makes sense. All right, let's call it there

1852
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: until next time. The tribe is spoken.