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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast, presented by by Star Credit

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Speaker 1: Junior with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome

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Speaker 1: to this week's Ozone podcast. And uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: say every week I'm excited about the guest, because I

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Speaker 1: usually am. I'm really excited about this and I've been

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Speaker 1: waiting for Cam Robinson to come into the Ozone Podcast

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Speaker 1: for a while. I know he doesn't love media types,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't love interviews. He's a private guy. So Cam,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing this very much. No, no problem

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Speaker 1: a reading that right? Would you rather not see a

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Speaker 1: camera ever in your life? In your face? I'm just, um,

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Speaker 1: it's not that I would. I would. It's not that

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Speaker 1: I would rather not see I'm just kind of more

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Speaker 1: it's kind of more reserve and more to myself. Just

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Speaker 1: like you said, it's a little bit more private. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm go doing media for a long time just because

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Speaker 1: she kind of comes with us. So I'm very like,

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Speaker 1: I'm used to it and i know how to do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm good with it, but me personally is preferred to

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Speaker 1: be kind of Yeah, that's it. I appreciate you doing

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Speaker 1: this because coming in here for ten twelve minutes. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's much appreciated on my end. No, no worries. Six

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Speaker 1: year veteran camera Robinson going by fast It flies man, Um,

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Speaker 1: I think about that. It's crazy because I think about

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Speaker 1: it almost every day. Um. And it was so it

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Speaker 1: was so weird. It was so funny because I remember

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Speaker 1: being in when I was like just for instance, like

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Speaker 1: when I was in college and I was in Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Used to be like a man, I'm ready, Like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for like the next step, Like that's if

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. Of course, I enjoyed my time

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Speaker 1: and it was fun, especially fun playing the type of

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Speaker 1: ball we played. But I think the older I get you. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just learning, like just to be more in the moment,

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Speaker 1: just kind of enjoyed the moment more because it's just

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Speaker 1: like you talked about, the years flies, So just kind

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Speaker 1: of being in the moment, kind of being where your

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Speaker 1: feet are and just kind of embracing um, just kind

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Speaker 1: of embracing where you are at at the at the

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Speaker 1: EZAC moment. It's called growing up. You feel like a

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Speaker 1: veteran now, I mean, do you feel like a vetter? Absolutely? Um,

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Speaker 1: My body feels like um. Mentally, I feel like a veteran.

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Speaker 1: The game has slowing down for me so much. Um,

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's nothing I haven't seen before. Um.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, mentally and physically both. I feel like a or.

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Speaker 1: But when talking to coaches about you over the years,

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Speaker 1: there's an element of you that is a big kid,

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Speaker 1: meaning you enjoy the game. You can see it when

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Speaker 1: you're miked up, you can see it. Um. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a silly question, but I've been around football players who

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Speaker 1: didn't sinse love the game. It seems like you love

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Speaker 1: every minute of it absolutely. Um. I think that's kind

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Speaker 1: of where it kind of where like everyone has those

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Speaker 1: like this maybe heard, No, that's been me heard. The Mentally,

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Speaker 1: you gotta might gotta get yourself going a little more,

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Speaker 1: but just kind of try to lock in on big

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Speaker 1: I do genuinely enjoy playing football. Um, it's just it's

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Speaker 1: been my it's been my love has been the only

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Speaker 1: I genuinely have a good time playing games. So i'm I'm, I'm,

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Speaker 1: I'm always excited now as a six year veteran. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you've seen some stuff around here. Absolutely, Um, how much

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Speaker 1: being a part of it as it starts to ascend.

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Speaker 1: It's been, it's genuinely been fun just coming in, um so,

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Speaker 1: just having an amount of success we had in college

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Speaker 1: and then coming in my first year and two thousand

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Speaker 1: and seven, seeing and going immediately to AFC Championship. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of it kind of it spoils you. You think

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Speaker 1: that that's just what football is. But um, one thing

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Speaker 1: a lot of life lessons as well. So you just

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Speaker 1: kind of learned how to when you when you get through,

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Speaker 1: each season is its own like nothing carries over. Each

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Speaker 1: season is its own season. Um, So you kind of

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Speaker 1: learned to when you get these type of teams, when

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Speaker 1: it's funny the way you described it, and I asked

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Speaker 1: if you follow me, Um, I think it's just the

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Speaker 1: the type of guys we got in the locker room. Um,

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Speaker 1: Was there a moment? I think definitely, just the whole

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Speaker 1: People probably make it trying to see him like you're

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