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Speaker 2: What is going on my people? Happy Fugazi Friday. Hopefully

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Speaker 2: everyone's doing well and getting ready for the weekend. Today

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk a little thing we like to call football,

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Speaker 2: because training camps have officially started all over the league.

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Speaker 2: All over the league. We had a scare today justin

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson is pissed off. He's on Caleb in the offense,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan actually had some very interesting comments in terms

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Speaker 2: why he does it. So we'll talk about that and

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Speaker 2: play some audio from Kyle. Nick Cassio, who was the

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Speaker 2: on that. And then Belichick had his press conference today

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Speaker 2: at ACC Media Days. Turns out ESPN plans on treating

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Speaker 2: I wanted to start with Ben Johnson because I think sometimes,

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Speaker 2: you know, you hear a lot the different generations gen X,

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Speaker 2: obviously we've all had different experiences as children depending on

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Speaker 2: especially as a guy like Caleb Williams, you have to

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Speaker 2: be wired a certain way. There is a certain amount

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Speaker 2: of God given talent that people possess, right. It's a

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Speaker 2: reason that they're better than you at high school. It's

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Speaker 2: to another level, not just physically, but mentally in terms

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Speaker 2: can't fake your way into that. It's why coaching in

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Speaker 2: football has really separated than the other sports. Like in basketball,

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Speaker 2: you're not even allowed to the players anymore. They tell

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Speaker 2: you're gone. In football, you could go and do every

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Speaker 2: position group in the NFL and in college, and the

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Speaker 2: I was like someone was missing with Eberflus, He's just like,

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Speaker 2: And clearly Eberflus is never gonna be a head coach again.

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Speaker 2: But Ben Johnson people have been begging for him to

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Speaker 2: he's riding Caleb, I went, you know, this might have

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Speaker 2: five reasons the guy was hired was to fix Caleb

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Speaker 2: And I saw that he gave Caleb Williams going into

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Speaker 2: his just footwork, which clearly needs to get better. Having

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Speaker 2: But even something as simple as like when you are

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Speaker 2: those during OTAs. And I will say this, whether you're

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Speaker 2: that's the only way to get better. The only way

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Speaker 2: to improve is when someone is willing to tell you

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Speaker 2: are several swear words attached with the message. Guys are

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Speaker 2: him anything like Lincoln Riley. Isn't exactly I would say

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Speaker 2: viewed as a guy hard on his players, right, No

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Speaker 2: one's getting him confused with Nick Sabin or Kirby Smarter,

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Speaker 2: saw headline today, Dan Campbell kicked everyone out of practice,

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Speaker 2: definitely in football, whether it's audio or radio or podcasting

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Speaker 2: I think is instituting some of the stuff that Dan

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Speaker 2: them hard. Now, you can't just scream at a guy

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Speaker 2: to scream at him twenty four to seven. You got

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Speaker 2: coach him hard. Football will never change. I don't care

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Speaker 2: what happens in society. They're the best coaches are always

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Speaker 2: the guys that demand the most and are the most intense.

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Speaker 2: You'd be like, why Andy Reid gets along with everyone.

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Speaker 2: Ask any player, any coach, anyone in that front office

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Speaker 2: he's got to be the hardest on Caleb Williams to

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Speaker 2: One thing that I never could kind of get over

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Speaker 2: position groups and the position coaches and the coordinators, we

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Speaker 2: had to relay this message, We're gonna keep going, We're

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Speaker 2: gonna figure out a way to win. It's like, coach,

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Speaker 2: It's like, coach, we just are starting left tackle just

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Speaker 2: That's why Peyton Manning once famously said, or the coaches

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Speaker 2: Moore answered simply, well, if Peyton Manning misses a game

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Speaker 2: And I was like, I appreciate that realism, but you

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Speaker 2: to him being okay. It's not like he shattered his foot,

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Speaker 2: it's not like he tore his acl or tour an achilles.

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Speaker 2: Dislocated a toe, which I can't imagine felt extremely painful

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Speaker 2: especially if there are people huddled around him, you just

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Speaker 2: pray it's not one of your better players, and you

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Speaker 2: just hope especially during training camp. It's someone on the

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Speaker 2: roster from seventy five to ninety that, while that sucks,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to lose anybody. You would rather sacrifice

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's Kyle Shanahan, which is had an awesome run

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Speaker 4: I think that's too overwhelming for guys, and I think

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Speaker 4: You Like, if I say that to a quarter they'll

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not pushing for this stuff that I can

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Speaker 2: mend right. He's not saying, God, damn it, Kyle, let

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Speaker 1: I've never had a quarterback really be like that.

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Speaker 4: But I was gonna call it on third and eight,

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Speaker 4: He goes, Hey, Kyle, if you call it on third

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Speaker 4: He studied it all week. It happened three times in

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Speaker 4: do you mind if I don't.

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00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: Do that anymore? He goes, I go why.

432
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 4: He goes, that was so stressful for me all week.

433
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 4: I had to study all this stuff. I was looking

434
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 4: for it on every play the whole game. He goes,

435
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 4: I was always thinking about that, and I didn't fucking play.

436
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, dude, we're gonna I don't want you

437
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 4: to think you have to do that stuff. Trust like,

438
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 4: we're working so you don't have to do that.

439
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: When we talk over and over about the power and

440
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 2: what good coaches bring to the table, especially in this

441
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: modern day sport, you know, football, college or pro, when

442
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: offenses at such a premium. I think Kyle just laid

443
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 2: out to you why his value is so high, because

444
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: what he essentially said is, I want I'm the guy

445
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: playing chess against the defensive coordinator and their players because

446
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 2: it actually makes it easier on my quarterback. And when

447
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: you put too much on the quarterback one, most guys

448
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: aren't Peyton Manning, And in a weird way, he gave

449
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 2: like a backhanded compliment to Peyton. He's like, listen, Peyton

450
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: was a genius, one of the great players of all time,

451
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 2: but he was essentially in the shotgun all like every

452
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 2: play of his career, and it wasn't that varied, so

453
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: he could control it pretty easily whether he wanted to

454
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 2: check into a run or a pass or audible to

455
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. But in this offense, where we are

456
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: shifting and motioning and doing a million things every single play,

457
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: it's actually easier on the quarterback just to call the

458
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: play because my skill is to be able on every

459
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: one of our plays. Obviously I'm not going to be

460
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, but to have an answer for anything

461
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 2: we see, and obviously it's going to be inevitable. Sometimes

462
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: you're going to need the quarterback to add lib, which

463
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: actually pretty canned because he's a pretty good athlete. But

464
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: this is me playing chess versus them, and my quarterback

465
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 2: just needs to execute it. So I was told a

466
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: long time ago when one of Kyle Shanahan's assistants interviewed

467
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: for an offensive coordinator job, his pitch was, really, listen, One,

468
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: we plan on running the ball a lot, and two,

469
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: we aren't gonna ask the quarterback ideally to throw at

470
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: forty to fifty times. Ideally, we'd like that number to

471
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: be from twenty five to thirty. And out of that

472
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty passes, hopefully fifteen plus so over

473
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: half of them are gonna be layup throws, and then

474
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: potentially another ten of those thirty so we're at twenty five.

475
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: There are gonna be schemed openings for him to hit

476
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: as long as he executes, and then a small percentage,

477
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: let's say around ten percent of the passes he's going

478
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: he might need to add a libd make some plays,

479
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: but for the most part, the scheme will help carry

480
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: the player, and you have to be really good to

481
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: function at that level. And this is why the forty

482
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 2: nine ers like for as shitty as last year was

483
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: for the Niners. They were terrible because of their defense. Offensively, statistically,

484
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: they actually weren't that bad. I think in a lot

485
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: of offensive categories they were in the top ten. The

486
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 2: one thing that killed them was the red zone offense.

487
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: But under Kyle Shanahan, their offense has been pretty unreal.

488
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 2: And I think what he just said tells you why.

489
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: Because it's Kyle playing the defense. He just needs Purdy

490
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: or Jimmy or Matt Ryan. Like, no one's gonna get

491
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan confused with Tom Brady, with Peyton Manning, with

492
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, with you know, Brett farv or John Elway

493
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: or Steve Young. But when Matt listened to Kyle, what happened.

494
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 2: He won the MVP of the fucking league. Another topic

495
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: that I found pretty interesting because it kind of became

496
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: a big story. It was something no one was talking about.

497
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: And then as like we got closer to training camp

498
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: and all these second rounders weren't signed, Everyone's like, wait,

499
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: are all these second rounders holding out for fully guaranteed contracts?

500
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: And it turns out most of them were not because

501
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: most of them were not getting that. But a lot

502
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: of people thought that the reason and the catalyst for

503
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: that conversation was Nick Cassario in the Houston Texans signing

504
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: the Iowa state wide receiver that I think they drafted

505
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: pick thirty four overall to a fully guaranteed contract, and

506
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: I did a little digging and asked around on why.

507
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: But I think Nick Cassio laid out his reasoning on

508
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 2: why he made the move that I think became a

509
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: huge talking point for the last several weeks around the NFL. Yeah,

510
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: I would.

511
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 5: Say it's really much ado about nothing. I think it

512
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 5: was a kind of fabricated story. Let's just take a

513
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 5: step back and again, when you're reading about like this

514
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 5: in a Wall Street journal, you know, like everybody's got

515
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 5: too much I'm.

516
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: On your hands.

517
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 5: But just philosophically, when you look at like say, contracts

518
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 5: in the second round specifically, so when you look at

519
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 5: the top of the second round last year, I want

520
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 5: to say, like those contracts were like ninety two to

521
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 5: ninety three percent fully guaranteed. Right, So let's just kind

522
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 5: of fast forward adjust for inflation a little bit. There's

523
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 5: probably going to be some marginal increase. So let's just

524
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 5: say the number is, you know, three to five percent, right,

525
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 5: So that small margin that's left, it's a difference of

526
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: it's not that much. I mean, you guys are all smart,

527
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 5: you to do the math. So again we're trying to

528
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 5: get ahead and stay ahead on trends. Eventually, it was

529
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 5: probably going to get there anyways, So we just felt

530
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 5: like that was the right thing for us to do.

531
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 5: And I think what happened after that. Honestly, it was

532
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 5: a non story that was made into a story. But

533
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 5: I mean everything kind of worked itself out. I think

534
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 5: all of us in the league, myself included, have anticipated

535
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 5: you know, at some point, you know, probably the first

536
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 5: four or five you're going to end up at that

537
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 5: spot anyways, So why wait around, why kind of bicker

538
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 5: back and forth, go back and forth on the agents,

539
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 5: like get to a resolution. I mean, I think people

540
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 5: that kind of know me and that negotiate with me,

541
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 5: I'm kind of a bottom line guy, so let's get

542
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 5: to the bottom line.

543
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: That's not him and hallm.

544
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 5: You know, if we think everybody's comfortable with it, then

545
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 5: we're going to go ahead and move forward. It didn't

546
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 5: really impact ursery, you know, which is part of the

547
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 5: second round. I think that was more of some other

548
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 5: factors that led to kind of the stall there. So

549
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 5: we're always going to handle business however we see fit.

550
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 5: Try to do it logically, be pragmatic about it, try

551
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 5: to do it in a responsible way. So again, the

552
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 5: off season, not a lot of people, There's not a

553
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 5: lot of things to talk about. So when I start

554
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 5: being routed in the Wall Street Journal, like, I mean,

555
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: you know that, like this is kind of it's a

556
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 5: nothing deal.

557
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: To me. The most important point the Casario just made,

558
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: and I would give this as advice to any human being.

559
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: Whenever you're negotiating, whether it's car, whether it's a home,

560
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: whether it's your salary. I think sometimes and I've had

561
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: a front row seat. I've been in negotiation since I

562
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: left radio, doing them for myself, whether it's advertisers, whether

563
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: stuff with the Volume, whether it's stuff before that with

564
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: Colin Hell just did some stuff with Fox Sports. I

565
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: enjoy it, and I think I'm better at it because

566
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: I spend less time arguing over little things, And I think,

567
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: seeing my wife, who's in real estate, the amount of

568
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: people that spend energy and effort and ego and just

569
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: time arguing over five thousand dollars on a million dollar home.

570
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: It's like, what are we talking about here? And I

571
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 2: think what Nick Cassario just said is I sent him

572
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: to a fully guaranteed contract. But when you actually factor

573
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: in the numbers last year was ninety three percent of

574
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: the guy in the same spot was fully guaranteed. If

575
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: you factor in inflation over the course of a year,

576
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: that number is well over ninety five percent of the

577
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: contract is going to be guaranteed. So if I fully

578
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: guaranteed the contract, people acted like I went from well,

579
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: you went from fifty percent to one hundred. That's not

580
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: the case at all. I actually just realized that, yeah,

581
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: we're talking about two or three percent potentially here. So

582
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: am I gonna lose sleep? Or am I gonna worry

583
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: about a negotiation of two or three percent with a

584
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: player that I just drafted at pick thirty four? That

585
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: if you tell me right now, when I use a

586
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: pick like that, that is one of the most valuable

587
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: assets in the league that historically you can get first

588
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: round talents but pay them second round money, and you

589
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: would never draft a guy at thirty four. Now, you

590
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: won't know until it plays out, but you think that

591
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: guy is a chance to be like a Pro Bowl player,

592
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: you definitely think that guy is a chance to be

593
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: a second contract guy on your team, So to fully

594
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: guaranteed his contract is not that crazy. And then he discussed, well, yeah,

595
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: we had another second rounder later in the in the

596
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: round who didn't get a fully guaranteed contract. Why because

597
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: the money was way bigger. You know. I think once

598
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: you start getting fifty fifty five pick sixty, well seventy

599
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: five eighty percent of their contract was guaranteed. So when

600
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: you talk about even factoring inflation, you're still going up

601
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: fifteen eighteen percent to fully guarantee that contract. You're not

602
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: going to do that. But you typically don't get an

603
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: eighteen percent raise in a twelve month span. But given

604
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: a guy a two or three percent raise, which is

605
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: essentially what he did guaranteeing of his own contract, I'd

606
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: argue this smart business. And I think the way Nick

607
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: talked about it shows you this league. Now, I think

608
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: there was just a story that four hundred and fifty

609
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: five plus million dollars got distributed just from the media deal.

610
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: So the Packers, they don't even have an owner, made

611
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: well over seven hundred million dollars in revenue last year.

612
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: These businesses now are so big the day and age

613
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: of just meathead people running these organizations, you have no shot. Now.

614
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean every gm is is some great financial wizard. Obviously,

615
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: guys lean on whoever is running the finances in the operation,

616
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: your contract negotiator, your team president, like you have people

617
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: that master in that, right, But you better be pretty

618
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: well versed on economic structures as we move forward, because

619
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: the numbers are just too big, and if you spend

620
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: time arguing over the little stuff, your job's gonna be.

621
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: Your job's already difficult enough. So I give I thought

622
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: the way Cassario kind of defined it right there not

623
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: only made a lot of sense, but just made life easier.

624
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: And I think it's not shocking at all that the

625
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: Texans are going to be projected to win their division

626
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: again and be one of the better teams in the

627
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: AFC for the third traight year. Okay, end on this.

628
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: I saw a headline today that could the North Carolina

629
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: tar Heels be the Colorado Buffaloes of a couple years ago?

630
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: Remember Colorado wasn't even that good. I mean they didn't

631
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: even go above five hundred, didn't make a bowl game.

632
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: But you put them on national television on Friday night games.

633
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: On Saturday night games, they were doing like five or

634
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: six million people, and it was like, this thing is

635
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: a ratings bonanza. And then they were obviously a huge

636
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: conversation with Dion, with Shador, with Travis Hunter. It was

637
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: fun and it was a lot more fun last year,

638
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: especially if you're betting on them, because you get a

639
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: pretty good value of some of their games, and they

640
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: were much more entertaining to watch. But people said, hey,

641
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: ESPN is going to take the same logic they had

642
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: with Colorado and try to ride Belichick and they are

643
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: scheduled to be potentially ten of their twelve games could

644
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: be on the main channel, being like different primetime situations

645
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: and approached them like Dion and try to use them

646
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: to rate and to get a lot of people to watch. Now,

647
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: Belichick in North Carolina opens on Monday night football. I

648
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: think it's September first, that leads into Week one of

649
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: the NFL. The Eagles. His Eagles Cowboys play on Thursday night.

650
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: A lot of people are gonna watch that game. But

651
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: part of the reason we watched Colorado these last couple

652
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: of years one their quarterback was talented, so when you

653
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: just watched them on offense, like they had an opportunity

654
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: to be explosive on every drive. And then they had

655
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: one of the more transcendent players we've ever seen. They

656
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: had a guy going both ways, so it was like, yeah,

657
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: Deon Sanders, huge personality. But I didn't watch Colorado games

658
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: really for Dion, right. I watched it for shador In

659
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, like I saw Belichick the last three or

660
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: four years of his New England career. We didn't watch

661
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: Pat's game why they were unwatchable. So if North Carolina

662
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: is going to be a ratings cash cow and a

663
00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: team's team that draws eyeballs and garners the interest of

664
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: casual fans, they're gonna need to be entertaining. And I

665
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: don't know if they're talented enough, right. I mean, they

666
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: have a transfer quarterback from I think South Alabama. The

667
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: best player on their team just left because he was

668
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: draft eligible and got drafted by the Chargers in the

669
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: first round. I don't know how good they're gonna be.

670
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: I hope they're good because I think it would be

671
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: an interesting story, but I don't know if the talent

672
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: is there. And you know, the one thing Bill could

673
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: do in the NFL is over the course of time

674
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: because he had Tom and some other core guys. Is

675
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: he could take random guys and have them over acheap

676
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: and develop them. But that is a lot harder in

677
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: college one simply you don't have the time. Like you're

678
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: not just majoring in football twenty four seven, three sixty five.

679
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: Some of these guys just have to spend some time

680
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: on academics, and there are certain rules in terms of

681
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: how often you can keep them on the practice field

682
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: and things that are going against you. But if I

683
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 2: was a betting man right now, like does this become Colorado,

684
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 2: I'd be a little surprised. Now. I think their first

685
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: year that could easily go above five hundred if you

686
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: tell me they went seven to five or eight and

687
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: four or even nine to three. But are they going

688
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: to be that entertaining? Like part of what made Colorado

689
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: fun is just the way they played. Right one, their

690
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: defense got a little bit better last year, their offensive

691
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: line was terrible. Shador had to run around and make plays,

692
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: but overall it was just kind of the wild wild

693
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: West watching that squad take the field. That is not

694
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: the way Belichick wants to play. I think in a

695
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: perfect world, Bill would try to win these games like

696
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: fourteen to ten, play defense, run the ball, slow down

697
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 2: the game. It would not shock me at all if

698
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: that is the style, because you would say historically that

699
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: is the way Bill vus football, right is just slow down,

700
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: out physical you, out mentally tough you, especially if Tom's

701
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: not around. This is like the poor man's mac Jones version.

702
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: So I'm fascinated to watch North Carolina if I was

703
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: a betting man, They're not gonna be as interesting as

704
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: Colorado was the last couple of years. Okay, we'll end

705
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: on this. It's Fugazi Friday and a couple things. One,

706
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: I haven't got that deep in terms of buying things

707
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: for my future child, but we did buy a stroller

708
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: and just looking at other stuff from car seats to

709
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: you name it, it is pretty crazy how expensive it

710
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: is to have a kid. And I'm not sitting here

711
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: to complain comes with the territory. But I'm just gonna

712
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: use this as a piece of advice if you're a

713
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: young person and you're just be very careful like before

714
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: you have it, Like I couldn't have done this ten

715
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: years ago. I'm forty years old. I couldn't have done this.

716
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: I couldn't afford it at three D. I don't know

717
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: how I could have afforded the things that are basically

718
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: like essentials. This isn't talking like get them the coolest

719
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: clothes or whatever. It is just insane how much stuff

720
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: costs in twenty twenty five for one child. I mean,

721
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: I know some of these people, some of these people

722
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: in our life. I would call them acquaintances that have

723
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: a bunch of kids. It's like, I just that I

724
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: don't think doing that well financially. I have no clue

725
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: how they're doing it, honestly, and props to everyone that

726
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: just there's a will, there's a way. I mean, you

727
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: don't have a choice once they're coming. But it's expensive.

728
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: I'll say that. I do want to just bring this

729
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: CEO Coldplay situation and just put this to bed, because

730
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: I don't never heard of this guy. Honestly, even the

731
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: company's name wasn't that familiar with I think everyone's first

732
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: reaction when these two people get caught in their embrace

733
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: at the concert is, oh, my god, what a scumbag?

734
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: What about his wife? What about her husband? What about

735
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 2: their family? My overall take would be this. If you're

736
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: willing to act like that in public, be that brazen

737
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: and just out in the open, especially I think they

738
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 2: were with other co workers. You fucking hate your significant other,

739
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: you don't respect them, you don't like them. There's a

740
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: difference of Obviously some people, I'm sure people listening might

741
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: have side girlfriend side peace. Have cheated in your life,

742
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: and it's not always just because you hate or you

743
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: don't have any respect. Whatever. The situation is a lot

744
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: of variables. Probably could hear a million different stories, right,

745
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 2: but in this situation, there is no way you can

746
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: convince me that these two people to do that at

747
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: a concert don't hate their significant others. So I would

748
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: say this for their significant others now if they are

749
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: just living in La la land and didn't see that

750
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: one coming, I would say that situation just to get

751
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: out of there, because why would you want to be

752
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: with someone that hates you? Because the cockiness to do

753
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: that in a public setting is one of the craziest

754
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: things in twenty twenty five, nineteen eighty seven, no camera phones.

755
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: Anyone that saw the Netflix show Missing Amy when this

756
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: girl disappears from a cruise, you know, back in like

757
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: the late nineties, there weren't cameras. It was just like

758
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: no one had any information because no one had camera phones.

759
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five, with cameras everywhere, camera phones, social media,

760
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: people just you play like three degrees of separation anywhere

761
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 2: you're at with every human in America. I just both

762
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: their husband and wives and families are better off separating

763
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: from these people because they did not like you. I

764
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: mean just that simple. They wanted to be with that

765
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: other person, and their actions set it all because that

766
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: is as crazy an of a public interaction, especially for

767
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: a guy that's you know, running the company with his

768
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: HR director. I also think this, you gotta be selfish

769
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: in life. And so many of you that work in

770
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: different corporations that have certain rules, there's so much and

771
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: as you get older, it's just impossible to not see

772
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 2: rules for rules for the not not me. So basically like, yeah,

773
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: I'm not following the rules even though I'm telling you

774
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: to do it. It just shows you. Obviously they had

775
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: specific requirements about what you could and could not do

776
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 2: with office relationships and the CEO the company is banging

777
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: the HR director. Sometimes you gotta be selfish, man. So

778
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: like when you get caught up in this thing, like

779
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: what is my company gonna think? Like, they don't give

780
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: a fuck, they would fire you tomorrow. You're meaningless to them.

781
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: And if you think the people that you know above

782
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: you on the ORG chart are following the rules, they're

783
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: probably not. Now, maybe not to this extreme, but man,

784
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: I've just I've never seen a situation go more viral

785
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: that I kept asking myself like what am I am?

786
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: I supposed to know these people? But my one conclusion

787
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: after a week was like, I just I think it's

788
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: hard to quantify how little respect and care that they

789
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: actually had for their family. So I think in a

790
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: weird way, and I'm not saying that their family should

791
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: be over it a week later, but big picture, best

792
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: thing that ever happened to them get out from under

793
00:42:48,120 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 2: these two people. Okay, mail back time at John Middlecoff

794
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: at John Middlecoff, fire in those dms on my Instagram

795
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: and get your questions answered on the show. I actually

796
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: just saw that the Raiders who gave Christian Wilkins I

797
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: think like eighty five million dollars guaranteed last year, gave

798
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: him one hundred and ten million dollars total. I mean,

799
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: he was the biggest free agent. I would have even

800
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: imagined he was bigger than any free agent this offseason.

801
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: He got a ton of money. He was a really

802
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: good player and had a bad injury. And I was told,

803
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: not by Spytech, who's came on this show probably three

804
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: plus months ago, that it was bad. Did the injury

805
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: was bad, the situation was bad. Now, I didn't really

806
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: know much was going on. I just assumed, you know,

807
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: Pete was asked about it a couple of days ago

808
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: and said basically like he's not even close to playing.

809
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: And then they cut him and they filed a grievance

810
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: or he filed a grievance and they're not gonna pay

811
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: him thirty five plus million dollars that he's guaranteed it's

812
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: gonna get pretty ugly. My overall take is this, this

813
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: would have been a tough situation for John spy Tech

814
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: and enter young first time head coach. I think a

815
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: lot of people and listen, I've been one of those

816
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: people that have been critical of the Raiders for a while,

817
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: like they've just been involved in a lot of crazy shit.

818
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: Since I got out of the league and was doing radio,

819
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 2: and even since I've been podcasting. But this is why

820
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: you hire credibility, Like, what are you gonna do? Pete

821
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: doesn't know what he's doing. Pete doesn't seen it all

822
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: like this. This isn't just some random Joe Schmoe, right,

823
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: So this is where credibility and listen, I don't have

824
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: the details to this, and the situation is is gonna

825
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: be an ongoing litigation league wide. Right, guy fighting for

826
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: his money. The Raider's not gonna pay him. But it's like,

827
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: this is where credibility experience, Like pizza, I got it.

828
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: I'll handle this situation. I've been here, I've had historic

829
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: players flip me off as they've left the field. So

830
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: it's like this is this is why the Raiders needed

831
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: some credibility, and Pete brings it. Whether I don't know

832
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: who's right or wrong in this situation, I just know

833
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: that Christian Wilkins is now no longer a Raider and

834
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: obviously had a bad injury. I saw someone just posted

835
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: a video of him dancing in the locker room or

836
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: the weight room a couple of days ago. Clearly the

837
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: Raiders can't stand this guy, Like there's nothing like the

838
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: best part about life when it comes to public situations

839
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: you can say whatever. Especially all these coaches right can

840
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: say can give cliche answers when you judge people by

841
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: their actions, like you just cut a guy on July

842
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: twenty fourth, after you've been together now with the Vets

843
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: for a couple of days, like you clearly hate this guy. Which, listen,

844
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: we all hate certain people. And this is you're not

845
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: my guy. We didn't sign you, you're not my player.

846
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: But this shit ain't flying here. And I would say

847
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: no franchise needs more of like this shit's over, like

848
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: this is not we're drawing a line in the sand.

849
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: No organization needs that more than the Dolphins, but the

850
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: Raiders for twenty plus years, the Giants are gonna need that.

851
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: There are certain teams, the Jags and all these people,

852
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: all these teams, you know, newer, younger coaches, first time

853
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: gms like Pete Carroll has Pete had a great line

854
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: the other day. I don't know. I think a lot

855
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: of people are gonna pick the Raiders to be really

856
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: good this year or to be like a be like

857
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: kind of like a trendy hipster ten win team. I

858
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: just don't know if they have the talent to do that.

859
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: They are clearly gonna be a lot better, and Pete's like,

860
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: I've been winning ten plus games for twenty years, Like

861
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: what am I planning on doing? I plan on winning.

862
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: And sometimes you know, if a young coach, like if

863
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen or Ben Johnson just has this makes a

864
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: statement that's a little out of pocket, You're like, what, No, Pete,

865
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: you haven't just been winning ten games. You won like twelve, thirteen,

866
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: fourteen games a lot of the time. You know, if

867
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: you're under selling yourself, Pete. I do think this is

868
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: gonna be a difficult, definitely first year for Pete relative

869
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: to his typical standards. But I love it when someone

870
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 2: just comes into a place and starts rattling fucking cages.

871
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: Another question. I'm listening Wednesday to the pod right now,

872
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 2: and you mentioned Trevor Lawrence not living up to his

873
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: draft prospect hype, and it got me thinking, since Lway,

874
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 2: there have been four major draft quarterback prospects that are

875
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: mentioned in the same group, Manning, Luck, Lawrence, and Kayleb Williams.

876
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: I think that's four. Oh, and you're including Lway as well.

877
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: If you had to rank them all, I would say, Listen,

878
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: I was born in eighty four of the year Elway

879
00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: was drafted, So I it's hard for me to put

880
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: him in context, but I think it's fair to say

881
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: John Elway is the best prospect at quarterback in the

882
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: history of the NFL. Now, maybe there have been better

883
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: prospects at other positions, but if all things are equal,

884
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: you would take the quarterback over any position. So I

885
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: think you could argue that John Elway, at twenty two

886
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: ish years old, is the greatest prospect in the history

887
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 2: of the league. I was in junior high when Peyton

888
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: Manning was coming out, but like I've I've watched enough

889
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning, I've seen him live in the pros win

890
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: an MVP. Is like he's was an incredible player. It's

891
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: impossible to comp luck in Manning. Obviously, you know, Luck

892
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 2: quit seven years in. I think coming out of college,

893
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: I think you could make the argument that Luck was better.

894
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 2: His athleticism was so much better in Peyton's. Now, Peyton's

895
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: athleticism in college actually wasn't terrible. I think we view

896
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: him as like a bad athlete in the pros, which

897
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: I think he kind of became that as he got older.

898
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: But if you watch some Tennessee highlights. He could move,

899
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: but I think that Factory neither had a great like

900
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 2: Howitzer like Lway, So I would go one clearly Lway.

901
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: I would go like two A and two B. Luck

902
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: manning these are as prospects, I would have a huge

903
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 2: gap and go Trevor Lawrence than Caleb Williams coming out

904
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: of college. Longtime Fresno fan moved to the PAC twelve.

905
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: Do you see any impact? Also, the biggest obstacle for

906
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 2: the Raiders this season is it extremely competitive division? The defense?

907
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: Or is it Genal Smith? And do you think they

908
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: will be able to win a division like the AFC

909
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: or NFC South. I think their biggest obstacle now they

910
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: have a real coach. They got Crosby Still, they got

911
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: Colton Miller, they got Geno Smith, they draft Ashton Genty.

912
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: They're gonna be They just drafted a bunch of players.

913
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 2: Also with Ashton Genty, I think they had what couple

914
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: they had definitely had multiple threes and a two. The

915
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: wide receiver Texas Tech Beck. I think he was originally

916
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: at LSU, the Nojoron got fired and he transferred to Tech.

917
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: I think Tech could be a and m I'm pretty

918
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: sure as tech. But I think everyone just needs a

919
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: pump that breaks a little bit on the expectations, like

920
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: could they win the AFC South. The Texans are way

921
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: better than the Raiders. I think if they both played

922
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: the same schedule, I think the Texans are multiple games

923
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: better as they should be. Casario has been building it

924
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: up forever, right, It's like no shit, So I'd give

925
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: the Raiders. I'm giving them a little bit of a

926
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 2: pass this year. I think there was a chance they

927
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: go six or seven wins, but they look way better.

928
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean last year was an embarrassment. I mean it

929
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 2: really was. They were unwatchable. Them and the Pats were

930
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: just not a watchable franchise. So I think this year

931
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: you should just be excited. And then another draft class

932
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: and then and I think big picture, it's like, you know,

933
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: Pete's seventy threeyears old, seventy four years old, so how

934
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: many years has he got this? Going three or four?

935
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: My thing is if by three or four it's actually

936
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 2: going kind of well, maybe they draft you know, their

937
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: version of and again I'm not saying they're gonna find

938
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, but like what changed Pete's life? With Seattle

939
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: was getting Russell Wilson. He's gonna be able to find

940
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: other players right at other positions. They're gonna him in spytech.

941
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: But finding the quarterback is hard, right, So if they

942
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: do find that guy, is Pete just gonna want to

943
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: quit at like seventy seven years old? It's crazy. Pete

944
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: Carroll's like two years older and Hulk Cogan Rip just

945
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: died absolute, I mean, legendary cultural figure in my youth, Ozzi.

946
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: I saw someone tweet out today that Ozzy outlived Hulk

947
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: Hogan by like five years going to the gym as overrated.

948
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: I would imagine they approached things a little bit different. Obviously,

949
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: they both had substances coming into their body in for

950
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: different you know, reasons. But you know Pete's youth. You

951
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: see him talk, he still looks and sounds like he

952
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: did ten years ago. That to me is where it

953
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: gets complicated. But that's a big picture thought. Why is

954
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts one of the most disrespected quarterbacks in the NFL.

955
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: He's the only quarterback to win the Super Bowl and

956
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: in that following off season get completely discredited for winning.

957
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 2: Do you think it's because most people doubted him coming

958
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 2: out of college, and people refuse to admit they're wrong.

959
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is two years ago, when when

960
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 2: it looked like a forty nine Ers were gonna beat

961
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. I remember texting with a buddy. He's like,

962
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: even if they win this game, the conversation on brock

963
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: perty isn't gonna turn into well, now he's one of

964
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in the league, it's gonna be well,

965
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: it's just his team. It was just his coach, it

966
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: was just Trent Williams, it was just McCaffrey, it was

967
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: just Debo, it was just Fred Warner. That's the same

968
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: thing with Jalen. And this is I went on this

969
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: rant like a week ago. I just know it's not Jalen,

970
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 2: but everyone gets so caught up, which maybe I'm not.

971
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: I could be better at my job and just do

972
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: more like quarterback lists once a week. I just that

973
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: does nothing for me. I hate that stuff. Unluckily in

974
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: the podcast world, you don't necessarily have to do that.

975
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: But is Jalen a top five quarterback? He's not. Does

976
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 2: he benefit from playing with a great team? Of course

977
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: he does. So did Joe Montana, so did Tom Brady

978
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: when he was young. So did Brett Farv with Mike Holmgren,

979
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: Reggie White. I mean, it's like any good quarterback. John

980
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 2: Elway won two Super Bowls when he had Mike Shanahan,

981
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: Terrell Davis, Shannon Sharp in a sweet defense. Like usually,

982
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: this is not the NBA where it's like, well, I

983
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 2: was like the best quarterback in the league. My team sucked,

984
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: but we still won fourteen games and went to the

985
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. That's not how it works. So it's just

986
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: he's a polarizing player because if you're winning a lot

987
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: and you're clearly not one of the elite guys in

988
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 2: the NFL and he's not that, you're just gonna be

989
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: just a major, major individual in the conversation because you

990
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: can't have the conversation, right, what else are you gonna

991
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 2: say about Mahomes? Like what's the point about Mahomes? And really,

992
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: what's the conversation now with Lamar and Josh Well? Can

993
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: they win a Super Bowl? That's really the only conversation

994
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: there's not like are they good enough? Can they throw

995
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: enough touchdowns? Can they make enough plays? Can you win

996
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: enough games? Like they've proved it all. So it just

997
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: is this not gonna end. It's just not gonna stop.

998
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 2: A couple my closest buddies are some fellow bald headed brothers.

999
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: Love to see the community flourishing. I totally agree we

1000
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: are having a great run. I do think the internet

1001
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: age has been good to us. My question relates to

1002
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: the Dolphins in the city of Miami itself. Do you

1003
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: ever see Miami becoming a powerhouse like the Chiefs or

1004
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: the Brady Bill Patriots or are there just too many

1005
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: distractions all these early twenty year olds. I'm starting to

1006
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: wonder if a coach like Tomlin or Mike Vrabel would

1007
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: even make a difference. I don't think it's possible to

1008
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: overcome it nowadays. I really don't. And you know, pat Riley,

1009
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: basketball is easier in the sense that you only have

1010
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 2: to corral I mean, your rotation in the playoffs seven guys, right,

1011
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: your team's twelve. And I've seen some clips from like

1012
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 2: U Donnis Haslam and Mike Miller's podcast where like Ud

1013
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: would tell guys like, hey, guys, you're going late to

1014
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: these clubs, Like Pat will call you into his office

1015
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: the next morning, he'll know you're there. They know everything

1016
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 2: that's going on everywhere. I think it was Mario Chalmers

1017
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: was like pat Riley called him into his office and

1018
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: he was like, why are you at the club last night?

1019
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: Like four point thirty in the morning, and Mario's like,

1020
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 2: how did this guy know this? And it's just easier

1021
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: to do with basketball. It also is pat Riley. You know,

1022
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey wouldn't even listen to Mike McDaniel. Honestly, I

1023
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: don't not defending Jalen because I do think there's just

1024
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 2: a level of someone's paying you twenty plus million dollars,

1025
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 2: show up on time and listen. I'm scarred from my youth.

1026
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: My dad is just big. I mean, we didn't have

1027
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 2: that many rules as a kid, right, stand up straight,

1028
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: look people in the eye, shake hands, be on time.

1029
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: I would say my house was closer to like Tom

1030
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: Coughlin rules, like kind of five minutes early. Especially to

1031
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: any serious situation like a team meeting, you should probably

1032
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: be there on time. So I just think that the

1033
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: respect matters. Like if Andy Reid was the coach of

1034
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, or Mike Tomlin or the Hardbob brother was

1035
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 2: a coach of the Dolphins, it would be way more

1036
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: buttoned up for sure, but I do think it's pretty

1037
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: difficult obstacle to overcome. Me and Colin were talking about this,

1038
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: like La like things California don't stay open all night.

1039
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: New York City, Yeah it stays open all night, but

1040
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 2: no one lives in the city. San Francisco. Everyone lives

1041
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: in San Jose. San Jose fucking blows like this. Arizona

1042
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 2: they practice out in the middle of nowhere, So it's

1043
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: like some of these situations. I've always thought that with

1044
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: like Arizona State, it was hard to overcome kind of

1045
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: the party aspect here, and the standard for the football

1046
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: program was not like some elite program, but it was

1047
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: always really hard. Then you kind of come and if

1048
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: you're a college football player. There's just a lot of

1049
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: talent in this area, some of the most talented areas

1050
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: in the country probably right here. Some would argue this

1051
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: is number one, and Miami has an aspect of that

1052
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: with this like international flavor of like no rules, kind

1053
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: of the wild wild West. Obviously if you have money

1054
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: like these guys do, so I do buy into that,

1055
00:57:55,280 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: I really do. The Lions lost both their coordinator. They

1056
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: have a very hard looking schedule. Ragnow retired. Now they

1057
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 2: lose LEVI will miss the season with an ACL. He's

1058
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: a pass rusher. Is it on the board that they

1059
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 2: missed the playoffs? I think that would be pretty stunning.

1060
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: I do think that would be pretty stunning. But for

1061
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: thirty five plus years on, at minimum four teams have

1062
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: turned over, and sometimes like five or six. So now

1063
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: we got seven teams of conference, so he got fourteen teams.

1064
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: So of those fourteen teams, we know that four will

1065
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: be new minimum this year. And if you just start,

1066
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: it's like, well it's Ravens, Chiefs, Bills, Eagles Commanders. Like

1067
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: someone's there's gonna be someone. I mean last year was

1068
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: the Niners. No one saw that coming and it happened

1069
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: the Bengals too, So you just you never know. I

1070
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: would never say never, like any team in the league

1071
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: can miss the playoffs this year if you tell me, obviously,

1072
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: for one of the main teams, Ravens, Chiefs, Bills, you

1073
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: would need a major quarterback injury. Right. Their teams are

1074
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: just too good, their operations are just too good. The

1075
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: Bengals proved last year Joe Burrow can throw forty five touchdowns.

1076
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: I can miss the playoffs. Herbert would probably have to

1077
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: get hurt as well, just because the way the Chargers

1078
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: are gonna play, because yeah, something's gonna happen. As a

1079
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 2: college football coach myself, you're one of the few people

1080
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: that actually know what they're talking about. So I appreciate

1081
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: I like this guy is Riley. I know it will

1082
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: never happen, but fun to think about. If Sabin wanted

1083
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: to just coach ball and not deal with the nil

1084
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: and all that he should coach D three football, no idea,

1085
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: No athletic director is gonna give any shit, coach a

1086
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: lot of technique and turn a D three into a powerhouse.

1087
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, like in theory, I get what you're saying,

1088
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: there's like a purity to just coaching football. I do

1089
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: think when you've been at the level in which him

1090
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: even used Bill as an example, because a lot of

1091
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: people thought, like, let's use last year as an example.

1092
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: When Bill Belichick and Nick Saban, who were like tight

1093
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: at the hip for multiple decades, right three and a

1094
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: half decades, because they they've known each other for forty years,

1095
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: they coached together, they're boys, it was like, you know what,

1096
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: if Bill couldn't get an NFL job, he could just

1097
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 2: coach high school and it made sense, like he just

1098
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: loves ball. Well, he's also been making fifteen to twenty

1099
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: million dollars for a decade, been playing in games where

1100
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: twenty thirty million people watch, coach the greatest most famous

1101
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: player in the history of the sport, been to nine

1102
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, Saban coached, how how many first rounders over

1103
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: the last fifteen years, played in the highest rate of

1104
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: games in front of seventy eighty ninety thousand plus people

1105
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: for fifteen plus years, and who is very wealthy? So

1106
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: neither of these guys need the money. But like ask Bill,

1107
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,959
Speaker 2: do you think's his juices are gonna get flowing Monday

1108
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: night football against TCU? Would it be the same if

1109
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: he was coaching Davis High School or D three? And

1110
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: I have no shade at any different division. I just

1111
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: think for those guys, it's really really difficult, Like it's,

1112
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: let's face it, it's hard for Tom Brady to date

1113
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: someone who's not famous and probably famous slash has money

1114
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: because how can they What are they talking about? Like

1115
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: how could he just date some thirty two year old

1116
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: good looking check that just sells insurance? Like they beside,

1117
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: like if she was a ten. Okay, great, we can

1118
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: we can bang. It would be fun, but like this

1119
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be serious. You kind of got to be

1120
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: on my level. So for Nick, I think you kind

1121
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 2: of need the juice of if Nick were to come back,

1122
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: it's my thing. If he were to come back to college,

1123
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,959
Speaker 2: you could count on one hand the programs. One he'd

1124
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: never go West and he'd never go like, you know,

1125
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,959
Speaker 2: Michigan in that conference isn't really fit. So it's only

1126
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: the South. So it's basically maybe a couple of those

1127
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: ACC schools maybe even though it'd be like Texas Florida.

1128
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: He's not going back to Bama because they can't buy

1129
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: out the bor Brian Kelly elis you would he go back.

1130
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: It's like three or four schools. So I just think

1131
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 2: that I think once you've seen the bright lights, like

1132
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 2: it has to be hard if you are a musician

1133
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: and a band and once you start like for example,

1134
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: Morgan Wallen just came and he sold out last year.

1135
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: He played at the Diamond Chase Field, just like he

1136
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: played a lot of I don't want to say smaller venues,

1137
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,479
Speaker 2: but like baseball stadiums, NBA arenas. This year he's selling

1138
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: out football stadiums, which yet is selling out football stadiums.

1139
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 2: It's one thing to do like a one off in

1140
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: a venue for four thousand people, but it would not

1141
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 2: feel the same just doing a tour for four thousand

1142
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 2: people one just the reactions, the money, the whole thing.

1143
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 2: So to me, these guys have been at this level,

1144
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: Like Pete Carroll's a good example too, Like why did

1145
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 2: Pete want back into the NFL? Because that's how they

1146
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: get their juices flowing. I'm a Charger fan. Is Rivers

1147
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. He was behind maybe the worst

1148
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: offensive line in four years four years. He sort of

1149
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 2: reminds me of Burrows trajectory, though his is still developing,

1150
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: but in a dysfunctional situation, put up in same numbers

1151
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,439
Speaker 2: and drug his team to wins. I think the best

1152
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 2: compliment you give Philip Rivers, like in the prime of

1153
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: his career as a if you loved football and he was,

1154
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: you know, Chargers were your squad. You felt really good

1155
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 2: just going into war with Philip Rivers as your quarterback.

1156
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: I saw the clip it was really I mean the

1157
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 2: clip he did where he's interviewing He's being interviewed at

1158
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: his house, you know, talking about retiring, which I think

1159
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: we all thought he retired like four or five years ago.

1160
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 2: And he gets emotional and it's just kind of a

1161
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: moving thing. And then his like four offensive lineman Nick

1162
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: Hardwig McNeil, a couple other guys came in. It was cool.

1163
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a really but I saw the

1164
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: clip of his last game ever for the Chargers. He

1165
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: gave this postgame press conference where he was in tears

1166
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: and basically just talked about like I never did this

1167
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: for the stats. I never cared what my numbers were.

1168
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 2: I just wanted to win the game. It's like this

1169
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: guy I always thought Philip Rivers was a badass Hall

1170
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: of Famer. I think he's right on the line now.

1171
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: For me, as someone that likes Philip Rivers a lot,

1172
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: I think Philip Rivers is a better quarterback, had a

1173
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 2: better career in terms of like the aggregate year in

1174
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 2: year out than Eli Manning. But like Eli Manning's gonna

1175
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: get in one day because he has two playoff runs

1176
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 2: where he beat Bill Belichick and Tom Brady in the

1177
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Philip rivers best run he got to the

1178
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 2: AFC CHAMPIONSI Game. Not all his fault, But like I'd

1179
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: argue both guys, you know, I just think the Hall

1180
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: of Fame should be set for Peyton Manning, Tom Brady,

1181
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Walter Payton's, Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White, Deon Sanders,

1182
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 2: like Jerry Rice, the best of the best. But that's

1183
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: not the case. So if Philip Rivers gets in, like

1184
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. My first reaction

1185
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: is no. Though I respect the shit out of him

1186
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 2: and I liked him a lot, and when I was

1187
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 2: doing Raiders stuff, even with the Eagles, I saw him

1188
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: play a bunch live. I thought the guy was a guy,

1189
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 2: was a ward daddy, very old school guy. A question

1190
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: for the bag. Everyone knows the worst team in the

1191
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: NFL would destroy the best team in college. However, the

1192
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 2: only thing I'd pushed back on that one depending on

1193
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 2: the time of the year. If we're talking like December

1194
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: and it's like a winless team and they're on some

1195
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: shitty quarterback with a bunch of injuries to their roster.

1196
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: Because even the worst team in the NFL in theory

1197
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: of healthy probably has a couple of Pro Bowl level

1198
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 2: guys that could dominate against college But if you have

1199
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: a bunch of injuries and a bunch of practice squad

1200
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: guys playing. We've seen some pretty bad NFL teams towards

1201
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: the end of the year. And if you're getting like

1202
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: a USC at Georgia and Alabama or LSU that has

1203
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty of their twenty two starters or NFL guys,

1204
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: ten of them are like future Pro bowlers, I'd like

1205
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 2: to see it. However, could the best college team beat

1206
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:09,959
Speaker 2: the worst Canadian football team? I definitely think a team

1207
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: like the nineteen LSU team could beat a UFL Canadian

1208
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: They LSU teams like that would kill the UFL. I

1209
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 2: think the UFL would get smoked. I don't watch Canadian football.

1210
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: When I worked in the NFL, I scouted it a

1211
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: little bit. It's a completely different game, right, the rules,

1212
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 2: like you get running starts, so it's not like apples

1213
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 2: to apples. The way they play. It's not like cricket

1214
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: versus baseball. But there is the down and distance, right

1215
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 2: they only play you only get two downs to get

1216
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 2: and third down you gotta punt or go for it.

1217
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 2: So I just think I haven't watched Canadian league in

1218
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: a long time, but it's not. They're not playing American football,

1219
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 2: so I don't it'd be an advantage and a disadvantage

1220
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 2: if you're just both playing the same game. I'd have

1221
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 2: to text some people in the NFL that like kind

1222
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: of stay up on this more that could like break

1223
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 2: down like, oh yeah, they got like ten NFL guys

1224
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: on their roster. Because my first reaction wants to be like,

1225
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 2: if they are playing the same sport, would I take

1226
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: like last year's Ohio State. Would Canadian be able to

1227
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 2: get to them? I mean, typically the best player on

1228
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 2: a Canadian league team, or let's just say the best

1229
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 2: NFL prospect in the Canadian League. Let's say he's a

1230
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 2: pass rusher every once in a while. The Dolphins used

1231
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 2: to have this pass rusher like fifteen years ago that

1232
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 2: was really good. They came from CFL. But for the

1233
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 2: most part, it's like a rotational guy maybe. And if

1234
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 2: you're playing a team like LSU twenty nineteen, like they

1235
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 2: have a dB that is gonna cover Jamar Chasey Justin Jefferson.

1236
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 2: So my first reaction is no, I would take the

1237
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: college team. Could be wrong. Don't feel great about that though.

1238
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: A question for the bag, why do you think the

1239
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: analysis of teams varies so much between the regular season

1240
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: and the off season. For example, I'm a Packer fan,

1241
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: and last year I'm watching every game thinking they're starting

1242
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 2: slow and need to be better on second and medium.

1243
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: But in the off season we talk about teams getting

1244
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 2: better by plugging holes in the roster. When the offense

1245
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 2: is at a rhythm, we're talking about how Matt Lafleur

1246
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 2: isn't using Jacobs enough in how we need more tight

1247
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: end or whatever depth. Yet in the off season the

1248
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 2: media will be saying, how we better upgrade our DN cornerback.

1249
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 2: I think the conversation changed dramatically. One A huge conversation

1250
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: during the season is the coaching right, how are they

1251
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: using a player, how the offense is doing, how shitty

1252
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 2: they are in the red zone, how they got no

1253
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 2: pass rush. In the off season, you don't have the

1254
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 2: weekly game to go to judge and create I hate

1255
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 2: the word narrative because if you have no sacks for

1256
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 2: a month, like you're bad your d line sucks, right,

1257
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: But in the off season sometimes you go, well, overall

1258
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 2: defense isn't bad, and you start talking about the roster

1259
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: in kind of like a in a macro perspective. In season,

1260
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: it's very micro. You're dissecting individual position groups, you're dissecting

1261
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: individual players, you're dissecting individual coaching. In the off season,

1262
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 2: it's more just about the sixty guys in their contract, right,

1263
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 2: who's a free agent, who we can add, how this

1264
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: guy can help, So it's kind of bigger picture stuff.

1265
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 2: The conversation dramatically changes from basically, let's say in two weeks,

1266
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: once we really start playing some preseason games, looking at

1267
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 2: the roster still kind of stays, i would say, with

1268
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 2: an off season kind of tone, but once you start

1269
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: playing the games, then it shifts to coaching staff, OCDC

1270
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 2: and individual players slash units. Got our linebackers suck? They

1271
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 2: can't make any they can't make any tackles. Was that

1272
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 2: a coaching thing? Is that a scheme thing? Is that

1273
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 2: a personnel thing? So then it kind of you can

1274
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 2: kind of talk about it from every angle. But as

1275
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 2: we sit here right now, where every team's just on

1276
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: the field in shorts and a T shirt, it's kind

1277
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 2: of like, well, how's the roster. Are we good enough? Like,

1278
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: if I'm a Packer fan, is our defensive line good enough?

1279
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: Is our receiver group gonna be good enough? Are these

1280
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 2: guys healthy? What's the status of some of these guys?

1281
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 2: Can Jacob say healthy? You're just kind of talking big

1282
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: picture stuff. But like an in Week four and Jordan

1283
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: Love's only thrown two touchdowns, You're like, what is going

1284
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: on with our passing offense? Why are we throwing so

1285
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 2: many deep go routes that aren't working? Hey, Matt, can

1286
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: we can we run some quick game? Can we throw

1287
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 2: the ball out the running back? Like you can't You're

1288
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: not having that conversation right now. And the thing with

1289
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 2: like basketball right that I was listening to Bill Simmons

1290
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: podcast and he was talking about the Clippers and like

1291
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 2: they basically put together a twenty sixteen All Star team,

1292
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 2: but like you got an idea like James Harden's gonna

1293
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: do this, and if Kawhi Play's gonna do this, and

1294
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: Chris Paul can bring you this, it's like you kind

1295
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 2: of know their team now in the playoffs, like why

1296
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 2: are they gonna be healthy? What can they run? How

1297
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 2: can they adapt? Right? In football? Even year to year,

1298
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: It's like, well, what if I told you Jordan Love

1299
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: has the best deetball accuracy in the league. This year,

1300
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: or if he's the worst right then that becomes we

1301
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 2: just don't know, and it kind of changes year to year.

1302
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 2: Beside a small handful of players that you know exactly

1303
01:12:45,640 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 2: what you're gonna get. I've been listening for the last

1304
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 2: eighteen months since I moved to the States from Australia

1305
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: for work. It's a big move, bro. My question is

1306
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: about the Glaziers who owned the Bucks. How are they

1307
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,520
Speaker 2: viewed around the league? Do they spend money on facilities,

1308
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,520
Speaker 2: free agents, coaches and are happy to give out big contracts.

1309
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 2: I asked because I'm a massive English Premier fan and

1310
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 2: I love Manchester United, which the Glaziers own. Their dad

1311
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: bought the club twenty years ago, threw a leverage takeover

1312
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 2: and since then they haven't spent a penny on their

1313
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 2: own of their own money on the club. They take

1314
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: dividends out of the club and have loaded it with

1315
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: billion pounds of debt and refuse to clean any of it.

1316
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 2: They are despised by most of the United fan base,

1317
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 2: so just wanted to know how they are viewed around

1318
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: the NFL. I don't have enough knowledge on this. I

1319
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 2: would assume they don't live in Europe and they live

1320
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: in America slash South Florida, So again I could be

1321
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 2: wrong on this. I do wonder if it would be

1322
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 2: easy to own a bunch of teams like I think

1323
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: the Cronkeys do too, if you own them in America, Right,

1324
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: if I own the San Fransco Giants, or I own

1325
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: the LA Lakers or the Dallas Cowboys. Even if I

1326
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: don't live in doubt, I can't really hide if I'm

1327
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: doing aka not spending money being cheap, I'm gonna get

1328
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 2: fucking crushed, right, and I can't avoid it. Well if

1329
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: I live in the States and this is going on, like,

1330
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 2: for example, I follow sports really closely right social media, Like,

1331
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 2: I'm pretty dialed in, even I don't watch that much baseball,

1332
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 2: even I definitely don't watch nearly as much basketball as

1333
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 2: I used to. But I got a pretty good idea

1334
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 2: what's going on and when big stuff happens, especially with

1335
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 2: the big brands, I'm not gonna miss the story. Yet

1336
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 2: most of this stuff internationally, I never know. I never

1337
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: hear any about anything about it unless someone fords me

1338
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: the story. So if you're these guys, I think it's

1339
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 2: pretty easy to avoid the criticism. I would say they're viewed.

1340
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 2: I mean, they've spent a lot of money the last

1341
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 2: couple of years. It feels like on their team, it

1342
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 2: feels like they're pretty good NFL owners once they have

1343
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: the right people in place running the operation. They've had

1344
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 2: Jason Lytt and they've supported him and give him him

1345
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: money and he's kind of excelled. First, you mentioned you

1346
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 2: don't do merch. I think you should. It's a big

1347
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 2: picture play, I would say twenty twenty six to my question,

1348
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 2: you mentioned you love drafts, and with the Major League

1349
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 2: Draft just recently happening, I had thought, how do you

1350
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 2: think the NFL draft would work under these rules? It's complicated,

1351
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 2: So I'll attach a summary of the rules. Well, I'm

1352
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 2: not gonna break down the rules. I actually got a

1353
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: buddy we played golf probably three months ago. He was

1354
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: out here to like scout I don't know low A

1355
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: or rookie ball, but he also scouts college and high

1356
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 2: school players. And he was telling me of this one

1357
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: high school in La Corona. I think the number one

1358
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 2: player that was drafted number one over from I think

1359
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 2: they had three guys that were I don't know if

1360
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: they all three got drafted in the top ten. But

1361
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 2: three guys on a high school team predicted to go

1362
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 2: potentially in the top ten or top fifteen, two of

1363
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 2: them are gonna go in the top five. It's like

1364
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: Jesus in high school, I think, and he was telling

1365
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 2: me he was having to play some calls to some guys,

1366
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: like how much money they would need to sign. I

1367
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 2: think it's too complicated. I think one thing, baseball one.

1368
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 2: In fairness to them, their draft, College baseball is not

1369
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 2: some national products, so we don't know the prospects. But

1370
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: I'll use let's use the NBA. The NBA got this

1371
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 2: new CBA that no one besides like Bobby Marks and

1372
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 2: Bob Myers can understand. That's not good for your fan base. Like, honestly,

1373
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 2: let's keep this stuff pretty simple. Even as these numbers

1374
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 2: get outrageous, look at the NFL, it's still kind of complicated.

1375
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 2: It's like, well, how much guarantee, how much is a

1376
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 2: cap hit. It's not super black and white where it's

1377
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 2: like everyone can fall along. But for the the most part,

1378
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 2: I know, if you're drafted in the third round, probably

1379
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 2: have ninety five percent chance to make the team. And

1380
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 2: I know you don't cost that much money. I know,

1381
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 2: if you're drafted in the first round, you're gonna get

1382
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 2: a four year guaranteed contract, and if you're good, you're

1383
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 2: gonna get your fifth year option picked up and they'll

1384
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,480
Speaker 2: give you a big extension. It's like, just not that complicated.

1385
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 2: And I think the more you complicate this stuff, the

1386
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 2: more it drives people away. I think baseball really dealt

1387
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 2: with this over the course of the last couple couple decades.

1388
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 2: Is obviously stats play a big role, but I remember

1389
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 2: being a kid and picking up the newspaper and just

1390
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 2: looking this is you know, we didn't have cable TVs

1391
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 2: like mid nineties, who led the league in home runs,

1392
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 2: in RBIs, in doubles, in strikeouts and wins like that.

1393
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 2: Stuff used to matter And I get it, like the

1394
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 2: front offices don't care and some of those stats are overrated.

1395
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 2: But the more and more became more complicated with numbers

1396
01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 2: and statistics, I do think it drove people away. The

1397
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,839
Speaker 2: deals with that a little bit, though, like points rebounds,

1398
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 2: they still really matter. I think their salary cap and

1399
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 2: the way you can build the team is way too

1400
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 2: complicated now. But this is entertainment, so you just you

1401
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: want to make this as easy as possible for a

1402
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 2: show and check on my podcasts appreciate it. Question for

1403
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 2: the pod. I'm a Pats fan. Obviously, we have the

1404
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 2: highest level of hope we've had in years going into

1405
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 2: the season with Vrabel and McDaniels combos seemingly a young,

1406
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 2: developing quarterback hopefully taking the next step. My question is

1407
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 2: about Drake May. What do you think his ceiling is.

1408
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: Most seem to agree that he is capable of leading

1409
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 2: a team to a playoff, but do you think he

1410
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 2: can become a top quarterback? I do wonder a little

1411
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: bit like Herbert, who's a better player. Obviously, with Harbaugh,

1412
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 2: I think there are gonna be some similarities in the

1413
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,600
Speaker 2: way this team's gonna want to play. Like in the

1414
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 2: next couple of years, they get better talent, They're gonna

1415
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: try to be a defense first, running the ball, slow

1416
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 2: down the game. I have a hard time envisioning this

1417
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 2: team is led by Mike Vrabel trying to throw at

1418
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: fifty times a game, forty times a game. They're gonna

1419
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: want to be a top five team in the league

1420
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 2: in rushing and have a really good defense. And to me,

1421
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 2: if he can be you know what, Ryan Tannehill was

1422
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 2: to Rabel what Alex Smith was to Jim Harball with

1423
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. But he's more gifted than those guys,

1424
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: then like, yeah, you can become a really really good player.

1425
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 2: So do I think they're ever gonna play like Patrick

1426
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 2: Mahomes or Josh Allen. I don't. I don't. I don't

1427
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 2: think that's gonna be the case. But you know, obviously

1428
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 2: he's really physically gifted. I think his ceiling's pretty high.

1429
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 2: But I also think the ceiling in which they're going

1430
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 2: to construct the team and approach games like Mike Mike

1431
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 2: Vrabel's not gonna play like game any Reid. He's not

1432
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 2: gonna operate like Lane Kiffen, I mean, or Lincoln Riley.

1433
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: That's it's not how he envisions playing football now this year.

1434
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 2: Depending on how talented they are, they'll do whatever it

1435
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: takes to win. But like, as they build this thing up,

1436
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 2: I think there's a specific way they're gonna want to play.

1437
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 2: They're gonna want a guy that's or a unit competing

1438
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 2: to lead the league in rushing, and they're gonna want

1439
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 2: a top defense that's gonna come first. Before turning Drake

1440
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: May into a star and then it's ideally when you

1441
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 2: play like that, your quarterback gets better and better. So

1442
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 2: I'd be high. I'm gonna pick you guys to make

1443
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Here's the last question. My proposal to fix

1444
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 2: college football scrap conference system entirely reorganize teams into four

1445
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 2: national divisions based solely on football spending, no geography, no

1446
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 2: legacy rivalries. Stay intact. The twelve team playoff format remains unchanged.

1447
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 2: Each division has a salary floor in cap that includes

1448
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: anil Payals Legacy Division twenty five to forty million blue

1449
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:09,919
Speaker 2: buds blue bloods with big budgets and title pedigree. Champion

1450
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 2: Division fifteen to twenty five million, high quality programs with

1451
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 2: serious investment and upside. Founder's Division five to fifteen gritty

1452
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 2: regional powers and respected mid majors. I like the I'd

1453
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: watch a lot of Founders. Frontier Division one million to

1454
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 2: five million developmental tradition or small market teams. Teams play

1455
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 2: ten indivisional games, one projected rivalry game tech sou Army, Navy,

1456
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 2: and one flex game. Relegation happens every two years, based

1457
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: strictly on spending, not wins or losses. This model keeps

1458
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: games competitive, protects tradition, and gives school a clear path

1459
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 2: to grow into elite status. Well here's the thing. Part

1460
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 2: of the spending on football is based on the television contracts.

1461
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 2: So the reason obviously you know Ohio State, Michigan, USC, Oregan,

1462
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,480
Speaker 2: these programs have a lot of money. But like Iowa

1463
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:13,839
Speaker 2: or Minnesota or some of these programs in the SEC

1464
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: can spend a lot because they're getting a lot from

1465
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: their television. So based on the spending, like if you

1466
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 2: put Alabama in the Big twelve, I'm just using this example,

1467
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 2: like they're getting a lot of money from TV. So

1468
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 2: part of the money it's not just coming. I get

1469
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 2: what you're saying, but like all this money, I don't

1470
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: have the forty million to spend if I don't have

1471
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 2: a eighty million dollar television contract a year. That gets

1472
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 2: you know, every team gets eighty I'm just using that

1473
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 2: an example. So I hear what you're saying, and I agree.

1474
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,440
Speaker 2: That's where I think it gets more. The TV partners.

1475
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 2: I would even change it. The TV partners just picked

1476
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 2: the big brands. And then you know the Oregans, the Bamas,

1477
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 2: the Texas' is, the Oklahoma's, the Florida States, the Florida's

1478
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 2: and they get all the money. I do think the relegation.

1479
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: I think relegation gets discussed a lot because it happens

1480
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 2: in European sports. It is never happening here college or

1481
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 2: the pros. Zero chance. Now it happens sometimes in college,

1482
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 2: like when USC Oregon, Washington and UCLA just leave in

1483
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 2: Washington State and Oregon State get fucked. But it's not

1484
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 2: because you didn't win enough games, because Oregon State and

1485
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 2: Washington State have been better football programs than UCLA for

1486
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 2: fifteen years. But no one signs up for that in

1487
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 2: America because we're spending so much money on stuff. I

1488
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 2: hear this sometimes in pro sports. It's like, guys, David

1489
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 2: Temper spent four billion dollars, whoever spent ten billion dollars

1490
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 2: to buy the Lakers or whatever the numbers are. They

1491
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 2: are never agreeing. Hey, if it doesn't go out at

1492
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: four years, you get kicked out of the league. It's like,

1493
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 2: then I'm not buying you would never a huge part

1494
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 2: of the prices that people are spending. And this is

1495
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,560
Speaker 2: where it's going to come in with the venture capitalist

1496
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 2: money which are sniffing around college football is knowing you

1497
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 2: can't go anywhere. So like Alabama, clearly they don't have

1498
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 2: the boosters of Oregon, of USC of Texas. But if

1499
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 2: I was a venture capitalist, I'd go, hey, can I

1500
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: become a booster there, get a piece of the profits

1501
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 2: because I know you have the infrastructure, the fan base,

1502
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 2: and the ability to generate revenue, but you don't have

1503
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 2: any boosters. You need my funds money. But if it's

1504
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 2: like well, if because I know they can't go anywhere,

1505
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 2: and I know if I support you, even if you

1506
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 2: don't win national championships, like we're gonna make a lot

1507
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 2: of money. If there was a risk they're like, hey,

1508
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 2: three straight years of less than eight nine wins, you

1509
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: might get booted. You would never get investment there. Like

1510
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 2: Texas Tech got this billionaire to give them bunch of

1511
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 2: money that like everyone's gonna get fired if they win

1512
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 2: seven games This year, I was watching Josh Pate had

1513
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 2: on Danny Knell. I was watching them on YouTube, and

1514
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 2: I thought Danny had a They were talking about Texas

1515
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 2: Tech and you start giving huge amounts of money like

1516
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 2: you gotta win. Like part of the reason Phil Knight's

1517
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 2: been pretty happy with Oregon for twenty five years at football,

1518
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 2: they've been pretty good. They've won a lot of games,

1519
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: won a lot of games, so I hear what you're saying.

1520
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 2: I just think a lot of the money in college

1521
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 2: comes from the TV or three or four programs have

1522
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 2: like one individual that pumps a lot of money, but

1523
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: for the most part, it's all based on the TV money.

1524
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 2: So I just think it's a little more complicated than

1525
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 2: I think. Sometimes the way it's discussed, the volume