Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast. Training
Speaker 1: Camp Rolling on here, really getting in the dog days
Speaker 1: of summer. We kind of talked about this earlier. It's
Speaker 1: August tenth right now as we record this, and it
Speaker 1: feels like you're taking a deep breath. You're going on,
Speaker 1: You're holding your breath under the water, and before we
Speaker 1: know what, we're gonna be talking about Jets Panthers Week one.
Speaker 1: Do you really feel like you're holding your breath under
Speaker 1: the water? No, I just are you blowing bubbles? Probably?
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's where at the point in
Speaker 1: training camp where you're so locked into what you gotta
Speaker 1: do each day that it just goes by quickly and
Speaker 1: then before we know it will be like, oh, what
Speaker 1: do you what do we think about Jets Panthers matchups?
Speaker 1: Week one? How many training camps is this for you? Now? Six? Yeah? Six?
Speaker 1: It's like sixth seasons? So this is my twenty one
Speaker 1: with the Jets. In twenty second, I believe in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and I think the longer you're in this, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts on that, the longer you're
Speaker 1: in the NFL, the quicker these camps seem to go.
Speaker 1: My first training camp was back in two thousand with
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, and I thought, oh my god, training camp
Speaker 1: is never going down. Now we're sitting here, like you said,
Speaker 1: we're basically at the start of the third week a camp.
Speaker 1: I know you started training camp like in midweek or
Speaker 1: Thursday actually was your first practice. But I mean, the
Speaker 1: Jets and Giants are playing Saturday night. We talked about
Speaker 1: it earlier. They're gonna have a day off, then they
Speaker 1: we'll have a practice Monday, leave for Wisconsin. Joint practices
Speaker 1: to joint practices will walk through. You play Saturday, Sunday,
Speaker 1: day off, Monday, probably a lighter practice, Tuesday, and Wednesday
Speaker 1: practice twice with the Eagles right out here at once
Speaker 1: Jets drive and then you play the Eagles. Preseason's over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I said, goes by quick, and I agree with
Speaker 1: what you said. You know, I feel like my first
Speaker 1: training camp it was like, Wow, this is this is
Speaker 1: the NFL. This is a lot. And now it's like,
Speaker 1: not to say it's not a lot, but it does
Speaker 1: definitely feels a little. I feel a little calmer in
Speaker 1: the storm. Also, I'll put it that way. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine two days though, No, I was. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about that when you were interviewing Curtis Martin. No, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine being outside and the kind of heat
Speaker 1: that we got a glimpse of today, Like it was overcast,
Speaker 1: so we were fine, but if it was sunny outside,
Speaker 1: we would have been scorching hot. And in the past,
Speaker 1: when it is scorching hot, I can't even imagine wearing pads,
Speaker 1: let alone two days. So tough job for the equipment guys.
Speaker 1: Because I used to play hockey and I was a goalie,
Speaker 1: so I had a lot of equipment. And the reason
Speaker 1: why I'm saying that is that you'd have tournaments where
Speaker 1: you played multiple games in the same day. And I
Speaker 1: hated putting on wet equipment. That's one of the worst
Speaker 1: feelings in the world. And but if you notice the
Speaker 1: equipment staff here at one Jet Stride. For those who
Speaker 1: don't know, let's paint the picture. The Jets practice all
Speaker 1: a grass field and that all the players with their
Speaker 1: pads put them on the turf field. All the equipment
Speaker 1: guys just have fans rotating and blowing. So I don't
Speaker 1: think that they wear wet pads ever. But it is.
Speaker 1: It's it's definitely not a good feeling. And I know
Speaker 1: we're gonna start talking x is and always in football.
Speaker 1: But from a temperature standpoint, this has been about as
Speaker 1: good as you could have hoped for. It's been rather
Speaker 1: cool on the days when it's been Sonny hasn't been
Speaker 1: too hot. It was very human out there today and
Speaker 1: right now on the calendar, people are gonna be listening
Speaker 1: to this on Wednesday and Thursday. Wednesday and Thursday is
Speaker 1: gonna be high nineties around here. Yeah, it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be great, but the next two days are definitely like
Speaker 1: T shirt and short kind of weather for me because
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hot. But we got dudes on the
Speaker 1: business side walking around here and wearing sweatshirts and jeans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I don't understand it. I called out the
Speaker 1: same person you did this morning and he said, you know,
Speaker 1: e A. He just said the same thing to well,
Speaker 1: you're talking to two guys that stand outside, and you know,
Speaker 1: I got warm just looking at him in the sweatshirt
Speaker 1: and jeans. So we were on the field late Green
Speaker 1: and White practice Saturday night. I wanted to ask your
Speaker 1: thoughts on just seeing people back in the building. It's great.
Speaker 1: I think the phrase it's a sight for sore eyes
Speaker 1: is probably often overused, but it really was. It was
Speaker 1: great to hear fans cheer after pig plays, whether that's
Speaker 1: the offense or the defense. And I think that I
Speaker 1: think that the year away from football or the year
Speaker 1: without fans really, um, I don't know. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say like reinvigorated the fandom, but like there's something
Speaker 1: extra about, something a little special about this season because
Speaker 1: it's the first time that anyone's been able to see
Speaker 1: the Jets in person from a fan perspective in a
Speaker 1: year almost now what full year and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Elijah More is already a fan
Speaker 1: favorite from what I can see. I mean, they've been
Speaker 1: reading about him every day, and we've had an opportunity
Speaker 1: to see a lot of fans come out to one
Speaker 1: Jet strive for these open practices. Number eight is already
Speaker 1: becoming a fan favorite. He came out of the tunnel
Speaker 1: the other night at MetLife and you heard this roar,
Speaker 1: and I loved what I saw out of McKay. Back then,
Speaker 1: he was just wearing a smile on his space walking
Speaker 1: out there on the field. Remember these guys who were
Speaker 1: rookies last year, they did not have that experience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of experiences. Let's day back
Speaker 1: to O T s and minicamp when Connam government was saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I was talking to McKay back then, like
Speaker 1: this is what football is supposed to be about, by
Speaker 1: building bonds with your teammates and playing football. And McKay
Speaker 1: backed in, and the rookie class last year didn't really
Speaker 1: have that. Now they do. And um, you mentioned the
Speaker 1: green and white practice, green and white scrimmage, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call it. You had. We had talked about
Speaker 1: in the press box the emergence of three players, and
Speaker 1: I think that maybe we haven't focused on them enough
Speaker 1: on you know, just across different platforms. But that's why
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it on the podcast, to make
Speaker 1: sure that we cover our bases. Here. C J. Mosley,
Speaker 1: we talked about a little bit. His neighbor on the field,
Speaker 1: Jared Davis, I would say, has been ascending in practice.
Speaker 1: And same with safety LaMarcus Joyner. Yeah, three defensive players.
Speaker 1: How about that Jets transitioning to a four three and
Speaker 1: you're talking about two linebackers. The two veteran linebackers Jeff
Speaker 1: Albrick is going to depend upon, and you have a
Speaker 1: lot of youth at that positions and Nasril Dean Jamie
Speaker 1: and Sherwood of Black Cashman starting to make some plays
Speaker 1: out there on the field as well, so don't forget
Speaker 1: about him. And LaMarcus joint Or just brings another dynamic
Speaker 1: I think to the defensive backfield. And you see him
Speaker 1: and Marcus May starting both to make plays at practice,
Speaker 1: and they both have very versatile skill sets and the
Speaker 1: Jets like it that. Yeah, join Or is his safety,
Speaker 1: but he does have that nickel versatility so he can
Speaker 1: come down and play some man to man. It's it's
Speaker 1: also feisty. And speaking of feisty, c J. Mosley he's
Speaker 1: not the raw rack guy. But you saw him come
Speaker 1: off the field other night. Actually, before he talked to
Speaker 1: the reporters, he was saying he had a couple of
Speaker 1: messages for the fans. Yeah, a couple of couple explicit messages,
Speaker 1: like in a good way, not not like he was
Speaker 1: taking umberge with the fans, but he was basically saying,
Speaker 1: I'm still that guy. Yeah, I'm still a dog. Couple
Speaker 1: you know, you want to put whatever flavor, whatever explicit
Speaker 1: words within that sentence, use your own imagination. But I
Speaker 1: think I think with Joyner and Jared Davis in particular,
Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm wrong here. Something about being under
Speaker 1: the lights just kind of clicked with them, and maybe
Speaker 1: it felt a little reminiscent of a game, even though
Speaker 1: it was just a practice, like it was a standard
Speaker 1: padded practice with some scrimmage like elements. There wasn't full
Speaker 1: tackling or anything like that, but it definitely felt like
Speaker 1: everyone tried to to elevate their levels a little bit,
Speaker 1: and those two guys in particular, I think you saw
Speaker 1: it well. The Thursday prior to the Green and White scrimmage,
Speaker 1: I guess or game like practice, the offense was leaning
Speaker 1: on the defense out here is a longer practice. We
Speaker 1: saw a lot of ground games, but on Saturday night
Speaker 1: you saw the first team defense handle things and put
Speaker 1: them in unfavorable down in distance situations, and Jared Davis
Speaker 1: was flying all over the place. You talked about LaMarcus Joyner.
Speaker 1: He set up C. J. Mosley's interception, making a great
Speaker 1: read on the ball deflected into the air. Mosley comes
Speaker 1: down with a diving interception. Mosley made a past defense
Speaker 1: earlier in that practice, and Joiner, we should have had
Speaker 1: an interception inside the red zone when he had a
Speaker 1: beat on. I would say a force throw from Zack Wilson.
Speaker 1: So listen, those guys have an opportunity here because it's
Speaker 1: a fresh start for everybody. But when you're talking about
Speaker 1: LaMarcus A. Joiner, he was most recently with the Raiders
Speaker 1: strictly as the nickel. Now he is a safety with
Speaker 1: the Jets, and C. J. Mosley is a fresh start
Speaker 1: for him. We haven't seen him too much over the
Speaker 1: last two years, and he's eager to remind everybody what
Speaker 1: he can do on a football field. So you know,
Speaker 1: those are three guys who could be who should be
Speaker 1: key players for the Jets all year long. I just
Speaker 1: want to say this about Jared Davis. You're probably gonna
Speaker 1: make fun of me because it has to do with
Speaker 1: the number. Here we go. Thankfully he ditched the forty
Speaker 1: from Detroit. I didn't think forty was a good number
Speaker 1: for him. I like that. I like the fifty, you know,
Speaker 1: I like the fifty two. I know it's David Harris
Speaker 1: and you know big, you know, you're a big David
Speaker 1: Harris guy. I just think David Harris is a very
Speaker 1: solid line. Me too, but I just got a lot
Speaker 1: of flash, just a lot of substance. Jared Davis also
Speaker 1: brings an element of piston vinegar, Like he is out there.
Speaker 1: He seems like a mad player. He puts the pads on,
Speaker 1: he's ready to go, he's raring to go, and he's
Speaker 1: gonna leave it all out there. We saw one practice
Speaker 1: he kicked his helmet to the sideline. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: that in a long time. Uh. It seemed like the
Speaker 1: next day he was almost in a skirmish with somebody.
Speaker 1: So he's a veteran who's gonna, I think, gonna push
Speaker 1: it and then maybe take a step back. I think
Speaker 1: he knows where that line is. All right, Well, let's
Speaker 1: talk about the offense. I feel like, if you're not
Speaker 1: at Jets camping, you're going off the reactions of social
Speaker 1: media beat writers. Tweets are tweets, you're eat our articles,
Speaker 1: you're eating articles about the Jets offense. You're probably thinking like,
Speaker 1: what in the world is going on here with Zack
Speaker 1: Wilson in the offense Because the defense, I would say,
Speaker 1: has been getting the upper hand the past couple of days.
Speaker 1: So can you please tell everyone watching, everyone listening, like,
Speaker 1: what why we gotta pump the brakes a little bit
Speaker 1: and not overreact on a day to day basis, Well,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna overreact to? Because like we just
Speaker 1: got off the practice field today and one is Zeke
Speaker 1: Wilson's and might have been his first passing team. You'd
Speaker 1: have to correct me. Here was a forty yard past
Speaker 1: down the field, back shoulder to Jamison Crowder. You can't
Speaker 1: throw it any better? No, I was. You're right, You're
Speaker 1: absolutely right, But then there's no decision making. I feel
Speaker 1: like based on green and white and all the other stuff. Listen,
Speaker 1: he's a rookie quarterback who's played in the league for
Speaker 1: eleven Training camp practices on certain days that we don't
Speaker 1: know about solid talks about it post practice. You have
Speaker 1: more installations than other days. There are days where the
Speaker 1: head coach knows when one side of the ball is
Speaker 1: going to be on ice skates going uphill backwards. You know, uh,
Speaker 1: and there there there have been certain days like that
Speaker 1: for the offense at camp um. I think sometimes yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, even in a completion another night to Vincent Smith.
Speaker 1: I bet you Zack Wilson would have said afterwards, when
Speaker 1: he's watching the film that maybe releases the ball earlier,
Speaker 1: or maybe there were a couple of decisions out there.
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't throw that ball to Crowder where Javelin
Speaker 1: Gudry is pretty tighten coverage and comes up with interceptions.
Speaker 1: No doubt about that. No quarterback wants to turn the
Speaker 1: football over. But Sala continues to talk about the process.
Speaker 1: Another thing that we don't talk about nearly enough at
Speaker 1: practice is you have no idea what the practice script is.
Speaker 1: So sometimes they're working on third downs, but it's not
Speaker 1: third it manageable. It might be third and fifteen, it
Speaker 1: might be third and twelve. There are certain points at
Speaker 1: practice called god to have its fourth down situations. We're
Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball up in there and things like that.
Speaker 1: So there's different things going on. Sometimes you're facing more
Speaker 1: blitz packages, so you're gonna take a sack where maybe
Speaker 1: you're just gonna get better from it the next time around.
Speaker 1: I just think that for anybody to anticipate that Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson was not going to have bumps in the road,
Speaker 1: uh you, I mean, go watch It's a wonderful life
Speaker 1: fifty times. The bottom line is, there is adversity. There
Speaker 1: is adversity for young quarterbacks in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: We haven't guys got more than a month until he
Speaker 1: even plays his first NFL game? Am I missing something there?
Speaker 1: I just like getting you fired up. I think you
Speaker 1: made a good point about not knowing what the practice
Speaker 1: script is because I'll give you a great example. If
Speaker 1: it is a third and long period, which means that
Speaker 1: every snap the Jets offense takes, whether that's Zack Wilson,
Speaker 1: Mike White, James Morgan, or Josh Johnson, it is third
Speaker 1: and ten plus, which means that the defensive line can
Speaker 1: pin their ears back and really get after the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Where if the Jets, let's say, on a standard drive
Speaker 1: in the regular season, run the ball twice and they
Speaker 1: get to a third and four area, the defensive line
Speaker 1: of whatever opponent is probably not going to be able
Speaker 1: to pin its ears back. So I think that it's
Speaker 1: a good you have to take that into account. But
Speaker 1: when we watch, we don't know what exactly they're working
Speaker 1: on on a day to day basis. Like today, the
Speaker 1: Jets offensive line, the reserve offensive line did a great
Speaker 1: job opening up the holes for Ty Johnson, like here
Speaker 1: we come, and those guys couldn't stop them. It was
Speaker 1: full steam ahead. It was like here and that's really
Speaker 1: I think what the Jets want to do as an
Speaker 1: offense is establish a run and then execute chunk plays
Speaker 1: off of play action. And that period it seemed like
Speaker 1: they were moving the ball up, so it wasn't like
Speaker 1: a third and long specific period, but earlier in practice
Speaker 1: when you see Zach Wilson roll to his right and
Speaker 1: you know, make a what I think people would say
Speaker 1: is a questionable decision, like, oh, why didn't you throw
Speaker 1: that away? To your point, maybe you know it's a
Speaker 1: third and long or it's a gotta have it period
Speaker 1: and you have to throw the ball. We don't know
Speaker 1: exactly what's going on. Sala also said something very interesting
Speaker 1: that he's going through a learning process in terms of
Speaker 1: seeing what he can do and what he can't from
Speaker 1: that's all part of it as well. Yeah, you never
Speaker 1: want turnovers. I get that, and I'm not minimizing uh mistakes,
Speaker 1: But where do you want to make mistakes on the
Speaker 1: practice field? Right? I want to make I want my
Speaker 1: young players to make more mistakes on the practice field
Speaker 1: so they can go back and have film to look
Speaker 1: at it, learn get better tomorrow, and then get better
Speaker 1: against the Giants, and get better during practices against the
Speaker 1: Packers and so forth. Um. The other thing is they
Speaker 1: continue to say that he soaks things up like a sponge.
Speaker 1: He can't get enough. And in fact, today Salo was
Speaker 1: referring to him going across the hall. Not only is
Speaker 1: he learning from Michael Flour and Rob Calibery's the Jets
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, but I haven't heard too many young quarterbacks
Speaker 1: do this at this stage of their careers. Where he's
Speaker 1: going into Jeff all bricks room, the defensive coordinator at
Speaker 1: the Jets, and talking through things from a defensive lens.
Speaker 1: So he wants to know what they're thinking, how they're attacking.
Speaker 1: So that speaks to what he wants to be, what
Speaker 1: he aspires to be. Yeah, has it been perfect out there? No?
Speaker 1: Has there been times where you're shaking your head and
Speaker 1: there like it doesn't look good? Yeah, but there have
Speaker 1: also been plenty of times on the practice field. Case
Speaker 1: in point red zone yesterday, throws an unbelievably gorgeous toss too,
Speaker 1: Corey Davis back shoulder to sick catch. But that's the
Speaker 1: kind of connection you want to see throughout the year.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned it before. La Fleur has mentioned it before,
Speaker 1: Sala talks about it, Albrick talks about the problems this
Speaker 1: run game will give opposing defenses. Is everything they're going
Speaker 1: to do offensively is predicated on the run game done
Speaker 1: a lot of play action and boots that fit. Zack
Speaker 1: Wilson's game is going to follow. It's not like Sala
Speaker 1: and La Fleur are gonna have him come out and
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw twelve straight times and Caroline on, here
Speaker 1: we go and we're just running spread off us. I
Speaker 1: also think I don't know, no, I agree with everything
Speaker 1: you're saying. I also think that over the next week
Speaker 1: between the green Bay joint practice, let's let me rewind
Speaker 1: the Giants Gang, the Green Boy, the Green Boy, the
Speaker 1: green Bay joint practices, and the game next Saturday against
Speaker 1: the Packers at Lambeau, I think you're gonna learn a
Speaker 1: lot about this Jets team. And the Jets have had
Speaker 1: what four for four padded practices, five padded practices maybe,
Speaker 1: And I think that when you have joint practices and
Speaker 1: you have a game, things get elevated up another level.
Speaker 1: I understand the preseason you're probably running vanilla schemes, but
Speaker 1: I do think that you'll be able to see certain things.
Speaker 1: You'll be able to tell certain things, like for just
Speaker 1: using special teams as an example, when the lights are on,
Speaker 1: that's really when you evaluate your special teams, whether that's kickers, punters, returners, gunners,
Speaker 1: core special teamers. Rand lawyers consistently set it. You can't
Speaker 1: really go a hundred ten miles an hour on the
Speaker 1: fields behind us because that's friendly fire. You can't. And
Speaker 1: when you're on special teams, you gotta go at a
Speaker 1: crazy speed all the time. Yeah, and you're right about that.
Speaker 1: The kicking battle, uh is ongoing. You know those two
Speaker 1: guys who are here had good days today, and that
Speaker 1: he humanity that the kickers gotta love. Um Braxton Burials
Speaker 1: has done some very good things to the punt return
Speaker 1: on the National Football League. Corey Valentine Um was a
Speaker 1: lead kickoff returner last year, but it extends beyond that,
Speaker 1: because who are going to be your core special teamers.
Speaker 1: Justin Hardy left practice early today. Hopefully that's something minor,
Speaker 1: because I like what I saw in limited plays Saturday
Speaker 1: Night when he was a gunner, he was all over
Speaker 1: the place, like as far as when that punt was
Speaker 1: coming down, thirty four was right there. Also, you got
Speaker 1: you gotta talk about Justin Hardy as a corner because
Speaker 1: we often think of him as just a special team's ace.
Speaker 1: Feels like he's quietly having an impressive camp on the outside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know he's going against reserves mostly, but if
Speaker 1: you have charted all the pds in camp, I don't
Speaker 1: know hard he might have the most p ds out
Speaker 1: of anybody. But speaking of cornerback, I'm glad you brought
Speaker 1: that up. I believe it's open competition everywhere. Everywhere. That's
Speaker 1: nickel and both outside spots. Yeah, that's that is straight
Speaker 1: up a fact. And I'm key at the Green and
Speaker 1: White practice. After a couple of days of seeing rotational
Speaker 1: guys on the outside, like Salas said, as I had
Speaker 1: done getting some run, Brandon Echols getting some run, both rookies,
Speaker 1: one drafted, one undrafted. Then we saw Bryce Hall and
Speaker 1: Bless Austin. And I feel like Bryce Hall the past
Speaker 1: four days or so has really started to come on
Speaker 1: strong in terms of coverage, and he's a player that
Speaker 1: in college before his scenes, so his senior year was
Speaker 1: basically washed with an ankle injury or leg injury that
Speaker 1: pushed his NFL debut back up to Monday Night Football
Speaker 1: midway through the season last year and against the Patriots.
Speaker 1: He was an ultra productive player at Virginia the year before,
Speaker 1: led the nation in past defenses. He's got height, he's
Speaker 1: got length, and I feel like if they were a
Speaker 1: player that could take a pretty sizeable jump with a
Speaker 1: proper offseason with I don't know a scheme fit, it
Speaker 1: could be Bryce Hall. You could definitely make that argument.
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned his length, and that's what he's
Speaker 1: known for, right So, I think where you gotta watch
Speaker 1: him now as the Jets take the next up here
Speaker 1: in the preseason, as he's talked about defeat and the
Speaker 1: quickness aspect of it, he can only get better from
Speaker 1: facing the guy like Elijah Moore, and I think oftentimes
Speaker 1: we've seen that matchup here in training camp. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna play too many players in this league or face
Speaker 1: too many players in this league who can match the
Speaker 1: quickness of Alijah More. Just watching those guys from the
Speaker 1: press box angle the other night, and I'm gonna including
Speaker 1: Corey Davis in this one. Wow, those guys really make
Speaker 1: some sharp breaks on ropes. Corey Davis is another player
Speaker 1: who I think maybe had a quiet first week. And
Speaker 1: since he's just he's hitting doubles all the time, he's
Speaker 1: not hitting singles and he's not in hitting home runs.
Speaker 1: He's just always there when you need him to be.
Speaker 1: And whether that's a red zone fade from Zack Wilson
Speaker 1: with a nice little toe tap on the end zone,
Speaker 1: whether that's third down on the outside, something over the middle,
Speaker 1: I think he's really come on strong. And this is
Speaker 1: he's really a solid player. You you just watch four
Speaker 1: watch him play and play out. Yeah, he's so solid.
Speaker 1: And I think Wilson a good point there, I think,
Speaker 1: and would you say this is fair? I think Wilson
Speaker 1: is camp has progressed, is looking in his direct action more.
Speaker 1: I definitely agree with that. I think he might be
Speaker 1: he could become the go to guy, like in a
Speaker 1: pinch or whenever you need to play. Even though I
Speaker 1: think Elijah Moore and the start of camp has really
Speaker 1: been like the big play guy, Corey Davis feels like
Speaker 1: maybe the the security blanket so far. He knows where
Speaker 1: the sticks are. He's a very good route runner. He's
Speaker 1: a big body, so he can box guys out and
Speaker 1: get to that ball first. He explodes at the top
Speaker 1: of his routes. Um, he's got very good hands. But
Speaker 1: those two have a ways to go to and I'm
Speaker 1: sure they would both tell you this is that Wilson
Speaker 1: targeted him a lot of times on Saturday night and
Speaker 1: they only connected on like three of them. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: Saturday night was wasn't the offense's best night for all.
Speaker 1: But it also depends on what kind of lends you
Speaker 1: want to look at it through, because on the flip side,
Speaker 1: you could talk about how well the defense played, and
Speaker 1: I think the defense has been very impress said. Also,
Speaker 1: you have to take into account that Robert Salis aid,
Speaker 1: at this point in training camp, the defense should have
Speaker 1: the upper hand as training camp goes on, in the
Speaker 1: offense finishes it's installed, which happened a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: Now the offense has a chance to catch up. Then
Speaker 1: you're on the level playing field, and that's when you
Speaker 1: probably want to see a little more give and take
Speaker 1: between both units. And the defensive line has just been
Speaker 1: really good. So when they're buzzing around the tower like that,
Speaker 1: which they often are. The quarterbacks clock has too, It's
Speaker 1: got to speed up because you've got to get rid
Speaker 1: of the football all. We talked about Carl Lawson so
Speaker 1: many times, but we haven't talked about him enough because
Speaker 1: he's just been awesome. And then you have full and
Speaker 1: runs of Fadakasi and Sheldon Rankins and Nathan Shepard in
Speaker 1: the middle. We haven't even seen Quinn and Williams at
Speaker 1: John Franklin Myers has been very good. Jeff Albrick loves
Speaker 1: Bryce off. I'll tell you that one right now. He
Speaker 1: talked to the media about that he raved about his
Speaker 1: work ethic when I had an opportunity to talk to him.
Speaker 1: So you have a lot of guys up front, and
Speaker 1: hopefully you get Vinny Curry back maybe we two of
Speaker 1: the regular season. Kyle Phelps still bang up. But Williams
Speaker 1: is a guy you know we're targeting next week because
Speaker 1: you bring him back into the equation. So what is
Speaker 1: the defensive line ceiling? I think the defensive line should
Speaker 1: have Jets fans extremely excited. And to wrap up this
Speaker 1: episode of the pod, I know it's preseason, so he
Speaker 1: can't really take a whole lot out of it. Right,
Speaker 1: it's not a regular season game. Having He's kind of
Speaker 1: vanilla in terms of scheme. Not tip your hand, but
Speaker 1: is there a position or are there a player or
Speaker 1: two that you're looking forward to seeing putting the pads
Speaker 1: on against the Giants or even against the Packers next
Speaker 1: week and joint practices. I think quickly I would go
Speaker 1: to the cornerbacks. I mean, we're gonna have our eyes
Speaker 1: on the cornerbacks every game because who's able to take
Speaker 1: their play to another level when you're facing another team.
Speaker 1: And that's not only outside, but that's inside as well.
Speaker 1: The young line of backers I'm constantly watching and whether
Speaker 1: it be Nasrel Dene or Sherwood. Sherwood is the backup
Speaker 1: mike and he's an awfully heavy ball player. And then
Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball, how about the
Speaker 1: offensive line, because each and every day we're talking about
Speaker 1: how great the Jets defensive line is. I'm not knocking
Speaker 1: any other teams, but if I'm not, I'm a Jets
Speaker 1: off it's a lineman and I'm going against these guys
Speaker 1: every day, especially when Quentin Williams gets back. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: to myself Okay, I'm prepared to face any defensive line
Speaker 1: in the NFL, so I especially want to see how
Speaker 1: that first unit offensive line does not only gets the
Speaker 1: Giants because we're gonna have to see how many series
Speaker 1: as they play, but against the Packers throughout that week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely agree with you. I agree with both positions,
Speaker 1: corner and offensive line, but I'm really about the offensive
Speaker 1: line in particular. To me, it's like, well, I understand,
Speaker 1: you have to get better, you have to be aggressive
Speaker 1: in practice, but it's not like it's a not like
Speaker 1: the defenders are tackling the offensive player. So how much
Speaker 1: do you really want to snap off the ball and
Speaker 1: start trying to bury your own teammate. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure that that happens throughout the league, but I wonder
Speaker 1: if when the Jets play the Giant Saturday or against
Speaker 1: the Packers, if they really fire off the ball. I
Speaker 1: want to see what that looks like as a unit.
Speaker 1: And I think outside of corner, uh yeah, I probably
Speaker 1: say corner. I just feel like we've talked about so
Speaker 1: many different guys and there's all these uh I know
Speaker 1: what they're gonna say running back, because there's some guys
Speaker 1: there where they've each flashed Kevin Coleman, Michael Carter, Austin Walter,
Speaker 1: Josh Adams, p Ryan by missing somebody, Ty Johnson. So
Speaker 1: Austin wal there's like the overlook guy that continues to
Speaker 1: make plays. I know, but I just I want to
Speaker 1: see what they look like in a game setting. And
Speaker 1: we've seen Michael p Ryan now run over to Jets defenders.
Speaker 1: He's got a little pop to him, right, Everyone's got
Speaker 1: a different flavor. I'd like to see what the running
Speaker 1: game as a whole looks like. Yeah, yeah, And we'll
Speaker 1: get a better read on Wilson because of that, because
Speaker 1: everything is gonna be predicated on what the Jets can
Speaker 1: do running the football, and we're gonna get early indications
Speaker 1: into that here this summer. Again, you're not gonna use
Speaker 1: your best stuff, but you just want to see these
Speaker 1: guys winning one on one on one battles inside the
Speaker 1: trenches and see if they get some good push. Because
Speaker 1: Wilson is good with bald reception, He's also very good
Speaker 1: in terms of moving we all know that. And he's
Speaker 1: comfortable with on the ball on the run, and La
Speaker 1: Fleur likes to use that run to set up the
Speaker 1: play action stuff down the field. One thing on Wilson
Speaker 1: that I found interesting Daniel Jeremiah was here at Jets
Speaker 1: camp and he said, the one thing about Zack Wilson
Speaker 1: that you can't see practicing is what a lot of
Speaker 1: people fell in love with in the pre draft process
Speaker 1: was him being a gamer and some of the magic
Speaker 1: that he can create off script in a game setting,
Speaker 1: and he can't really do that here when you're on
Speaker 1: third and fifteen practice periods and specific scripted periods. As
Speaker 1: you get in the game, you can do stuff what
Speaker 1: you said, where maybe his ball deception is further along
Speaker 1: where a normal rookie is, and that allows, you know,
Speaker 1: that makes the defender collapse on the run. Now he's
Speaker 1: open or and he has room to run and roam
Speaker 1: and he can hit somebody downfield. I think that those
Speaker 1: are the types of things that you want to look for.
Speaker 1: Is what listen When he's been decisive, he's been good.
Speaker 1: Uh it's clear when you see him going back and
Speaker 1: he feels comfortable with it and he lets it rip.
Speaker 1: He's been good. He's gonna have his moments. He's still
Speaker 1: gonna have his moments along the way. But I say
Speaker 1: enjoy the ride right now. And I think this is
Speaker 1: a very good offense for a rookie quarterback to come
Speaker 1: into because you're hoping you get that really good push
Speaker 1: from the offensive line. You have multiple running backs who
Speaker 1: can do different things. You are not going to go
Speaker 1: away from that. And you have an interesting group of targets.
Speaker 1: Now Alije More comes in. You got the savvy veteran
Speaker 1: and Jamison Crowder Corey Davis is so solid um and
Speaker 1: there are other guys in that mix as well. Don't
Speaker 1: forget about Denzel Mims. He popped today at practice. Denzel
Speaker 1: Mimms is an interesting case and in social media right
Speaker 1: now because a lot of fans want to see stuff
Speaker 1: from him. Some fans think that he's not gonna even
Speaker 1: make the team, but look, Denjel Limbs, I think has
Speaker 1: been ascending. I was very impressed with his green and
Speaker 1: white catch, the one when he came back and plucked
Speaker 1: it from the corner. You really saw the aggression. He's
Speaker 1: a player to me that plays better impads because he
Speaker 1: is a tall, physical receiver and when he can get
Speaker 1: on you, and he's a very good run blocker. So
Speaker 1: I think that he's somebody that will benefit from the
Speaker 1: pad being on, and we'll see how he performs against
Speaker 1: the Giants, as we'll see for the entire New York
Speaker 1: Jets team. And that's all we have here on this
Speaker 1: episode of the Official Jets Podcast.