1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast. Training 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Camp Rolling on here, really getting in the dog days 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: of summer. We kind of talked about this earlier. It's 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: August tenth right now as we record this, and it 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: feels like you're taking a deep breath. You're going on, 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: You're holding your breath under the water, and before we 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: know what, we're gonna be talking about Jets Panthers Week one. 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: Do you really feel like you're holding your breath under 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: the water? No, I just are you blowing bubbles? Probably? 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: I just feel like it's where at the point in 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: training camp where you're so locked into what you gotta 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: do each day that it just goes by quickly and 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: then before we know it will be like, oh, what 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: do you what do we think about Jets Panthers matchups? 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: Week one? How many training camps is this for you? Now? Six? Yeah? Six? 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: It's like sixth seasons? So this is my twenty one 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: with the Jets. In twenty second, I believe in the NFL, 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: and I think the longer you're in this, and I 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts on that, the longer you're 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL, the quicker these camps seem to go. 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: My first training camp was back in two thousand with 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, and I thought, oh my god, training camp 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: is never going down. Now we're sitting here, like you said, 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 1: we're basically at the start of the third week a camp. 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: I know you started training camp like in midweek or 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Thursday actually was your first practice. But I mean, the 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: Jets and Giants are playing Saturday night. We talked about 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: it earlier. They're gonna have a day off, then they 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: we'll have a practice Monday, leave for Wisconsin. Joint practices 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: to joint practices will walk through. You play Saturday, Sunday, 31 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: day off, Monday, probably a lighter practice, Tuesday, and Wednesday 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: practice twice with the Eagles right out here at once 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: Jets drive and then you play the Eagles. Preseason's over. Yeah, 34 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: like I said, goes by quick, and I agree with 35 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: what you said. You know, I feel like my first 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: training camp it was like, Wow, this is this is 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. This is a lot. And now it's like, 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: not to say it's not a lot, but it does 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: definitely feels a little. I feel a little calmer in 40 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: the storm. Also, I'll put it that way. Can you 41 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: imagine two days though, No, I was. I was thinking 42 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: about that when you were interviewing Curtis Martin. No, I can't. 43 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: I can't imagine being outside and the kind of heat 44 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: that we got a glimpse of today, Like it was overcast, 45 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: so we were fine, but if it was sunny outside, 46 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: we would have been scorching hot. And in the past, 47 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: when it is scorching hot, I can't even imagine wearing pads, 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: let alone two days. So tough job for the equipment guys. 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: Because I used to play hockey and I was a goalie, 50 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: so I had a lot of equipment. And the reason 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: why I'm saying that is that you'd have tournaments where 52 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: you played multiple games in the same day. And I 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: hated putting on wet equipment. That's one of the worst 54 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: feelings in the world. And but if you notice the 55 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: equipment staff here at one Jet Stride. For those who 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: don't know, let's paint the picture. The Jets practice all 57 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: a grass field and that all the players with their 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: pads put them on the turf field. All the equipment 59 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: guys just have fans rotating and blowing. So I don't 60 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: think that they wear wet pads ever. But it is. 61 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: It's it's definitely not a good feeling. And I know 62 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna start talking x is and always in football. 63 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: But from a temperature standpoint, this has been about as 64 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: good as you could have hoped for. It's been rather 65 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: cool on the days when it's been Sonny hasn't been 66 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: too hot. It was very human out there today and 67 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: right now on the calendar, people are gonna be listening 68 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: to this on Wednesday and Thursday. Wednesday and Thursday is 69 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: gonna be high nineties around here. Yeah, it's not gonna 70 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: be great, but the next two days are definitely like 71 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: T shirt and short kind of weather for me because 72 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hot. But we got dudes on the 73 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: business side walking around here and wearing sweatshirts and jeans. Yeah, 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: I know, I don't understand it. I called out the 75 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: same person you did this morning and he said, you know, 76 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: e A. He just said the same thing to well, 77 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: you're talking to two guys that stand outside, and you know, 78 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: I got warm just looking at him in the sweatshirt 79 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: and jeans. So we were on the field late Green 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: and White practice Saturday night. I wanted to ask your 81 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: thoughts on just seeing people back in the building. It's great. 82 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: I think the phrase it's a sight for sore eyes 83 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: is probably often overused, but it really was. It was 84 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: great to hear fans cheer after pig plays, whether that's 85 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: the offense or the defense. And I think that I 86 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: think that the year away from football or the year 87 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: without fans really, um, I don't know. I don't want 88 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: to say like reinvigorated the fandom, but like there's something 89 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: extra about, something a little special about this season because 90 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: it's the first time that anyone's been able to see 91 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: the Jets in person from a fan perspective in a 92 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: year almost now what full year and a half. Yeah, 93 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Elijah More is already a fan 94 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: favorite from what I can see. I mean, they've been 95 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: reading about him every day, and we've had an opportunity 96 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: to see a lot of fans come out to one 97 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: Jet strive for these open practices. Number eight is already 98 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: becoming a fan favorite. He came out of the tunnel 99 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: the other night at MetLife and you heard this roar, 100 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: and I loved what I saw out of McKay. Back then, 101 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: he was just wearing a smile on his space walking 102 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: out there on the field. Remember these guys who were 103 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: rookies last year, they did not have that experience. Yeah, 104 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of experiences. Let's day back 105 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: to O T s and minicamp when Connam government was saying, 106 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was talking to McKay back then, like 107 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: this is what football is supposed to be about, by 108 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: building bonds with your teammates and playing football. And McKay 109 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: backed in, and the rookie class last year didn't really 110 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: have that. Now they do. And um, you mentioned the 111 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: green and white practice, green and white scrimmage, whatever you 112 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: want to call it. You had. We had talked about 113 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: in the press box the emergence of three players, and 114 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: I think that maybe we haven't focused on them enough 115 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: on you know, just across different platforms. But that's why 116 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it on the podcast, to make 117 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: sure that we cover our bases. Here. C J. Mosley, 118 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: we talked about a little bit. His neighbor on the field, 119 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: Jared Davis, I would say, has been ascending in practice. 120 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: And same with safety LaMarcus Joyner. Yeah, three defensive players. 121 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: How about that Jets transitioning to a four three and 122 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: you're talking about two linebackers. The two veteran linebackers Jeff 123 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: Albrick is going to depend upon, and you have a 124 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: lot of youth at that positions and Nasril Dean Jamie 125 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: and Sherwood of Black Cashman starting to make some plays 126 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: out there on the field as well, so don't forget 127 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: about him. And LaMarcus joint Or just brings another dynamic 128 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: I think to the defensive backfield. And you see him 129 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: and Marcus May starting both to make plays at practice, 130 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: and they both have very versatile skill sets and the 131 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: Jets like it that. Yeah, join Or is his safety, 132 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: but he does have that nickel versatility so he can 133 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: come down and play some man to man. It's it's 134 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: also feisty. And speaking of feisty, c J. Mosley he's 135 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: not the raw rack guy. But you saw him come 136 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: off the field other night. Actually, before he talked to 137 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: the reporters, he was saying he had a couple of 138 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: messages for the fans. Yeah, a couple of couple explicit messages, 139 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: like in a good way, not not like he was 140 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: taking umberge with the fans, but he was basically saying, 141 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm still that guy. Yeah, I'm still a dog. Couple 142 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, you want to put whatever flavor, whatever explicit 143 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: words within that sentence, use your own imagination. But I 144 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: think I think with Joyner and Jared Davis in particular, 145 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm wrong here. Something about being under 146 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: the lights just kind of clicked with them, and maybe 147 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: it felt a little reminiscent of a game, even though 148 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: it was just a practice, like it was a standard 149 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: padded practice with some scrimmage like elements. There wasn't full 150 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: tackling or anything like that, but it definitely felt like 151 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: everyone tried to to elevate their levels a little bit, 152 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: and those two guys in particular, I think you saw 153 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: it well. The Thursday prior to the Green and White scrimmage, 154 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: I guess or game like practice, the offense was leaning 155 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: on the defense out here is a longer practice. We 156 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: saw a lot of ground games, but on Saturday night 157 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: you saw the first team defense handle things and put 158 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: them in unfavorable down in distance situations, and Jared Davis 159 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: was flying all over the place. You talked about LaMarcus Joyner. 160 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: He set up C. J. Mosley's interception, making a great 161 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: read on the ball deflected into the air. Mosley comes 162 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: down with a diving interception. Mosley made a past defense 163 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: earlier in that practice, and Joiner, we should have had 164 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: an interception inside the red zone when he had a 165 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: beat on. I would say a force throw from Zack Wilson. 166 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: So listen, those guys have an opportunity here because it's 167 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: a fresh start for everybody. But when you're talking about 168 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: LaMarcus A. Joiner, he was most recently with the Raiders 169 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: strictly as the nickel. Now he is a safety with 170 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: the Jets, and C. J. Mosley is a fresh start 171 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: for him. We haven't seen him too much over the 172 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: last two years, and he's eager to remind everybody what 173 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: he can do on a football field. So you know, 174 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: those are three guys who could be who should be 175 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: key players for the Jets all year long. I just 176 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: want to say this about Jared Davis. You're probably gonna 177 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: make fun of me because it has to do with 178 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: the number. Here we go. Thankfully he ditched the forty 179 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: from Detroit. I didn't think forty was a good number 180 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: for him. I like that. I like the fifty, you know, 181 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: I like the fifty two. I know it's David Harris 182 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: and you know big, you know, you're a big David 183 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: Harris guy. I just think David Harris is a very 184 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: solid line. Me too, but I just got a lot 185 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: of flash, just a lot of substance. Jared Davis also 186 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: brings an element of piston vinegar, Like he is out there. 187 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: He seems like a mad player. He puts the pads on, 188 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: he's ready to go, he's raring to go, and he's 189 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: gonna leave it all out there. We saw one practice 190 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: he kicked his helmet to the sideline. I haven't seen 191 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: that in a long time. Uh. It seemed like the 192 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: next day he was almost in a skirmish with somebody. 193 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: So he's a veteran who's gonna, I think, gonna push 194 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: it and then maybe take a step back. I think 195 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: he knows where that line is. All right, Well, let's 196 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: talk about the offense. I feel like, if you're not 197 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: at Jets camping, you're going off the reactions of social 198 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: media beat writers. Tweets are tweets, you're eat our articles, 199 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: you're eating articles about the Jets offense. You're probably thinking like, 200 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: what in the world is going on here with Zack 201 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: Wilson in the offense Because the defense, I would say, 202 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: has been getting the upper hand the past couple of days. 203 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: So can you please tell everyone watching, everyone listening, like, 204 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: what why we gotta pump the brakes a little bit 205 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: and not overreact on a day to day basis, Well, 206 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: what are you gonna overreact to? Because like we just 207 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: got off the practice field today and one is Zeke 208 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: Wilson's and might have been his first passing team. You'd 209 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: have to correct me. Here was a forty yard past 210 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: down the field, back shoulder to Jamison Crowder. You can't 211 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: throw it any better? No, I was. You're right, You're 212 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: absolutely right, But then there's no decision making. I feel 213 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: like based on green and white and all the other stuff. Listen, 214 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: he's a rookie quarterback who's played in the league for 215 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: eleven Training camp practices on certain days that we don't 216 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: know about solid talks about it post practice. You have 217 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: more installations than other days. There are days where the 218 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: head coach knows when one side of the ball is 219 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: going to be on ice skates going uphill backwards. You know, uh, 220 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: and there there there have been certain days like that 221 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: for the offense at camp um. I think sometimes yeah, 222 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, even in a completion another night to Vincent Smith. 223 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: I bet you Zack Wilson would have said afterwards, when 224 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: he's watching the film that maybe releases the ball earlier, 225 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: or maybe there were a couple of decisions out there. 226 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't throw that ball to Crowder where Javelin 227 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: Gudry is pretty tighten coverage and comes up with interceptions. 228 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: No doubt about that. No quarterback wants to turn the 229 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: football over. But Sala continues to talk about the process. 230 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: Another thing that we don't talk about nearly enough at 231 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: practice is you have no idea what the practice script is. 232 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: So sometimes they're working on third downs, but it's not 233 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: third it manageable. It might be third and fifteen, it 234 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: might be third and twelve. There are certain points at 235 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: practice called god to have its fourth down situations. We're 236 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball up in there and things like that. 237 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: So there's different things going on. Sometimes you're facing more 238 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: blitz packages, so you're gonna take a sack where maybe 239 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: you're just gonna get better from it the next time around. 240 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: I just think that for anybody to anticipate that Zach 241 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: Wilson was not going to have bumps in the road, 242 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: uh you, I mean, go watch It's a wonderful life 243 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: fifty times. The bottom line is, there is adversity. There 244 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: is adversity for young quarterbacks in the National Football League. 245 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: We haven't guys got more than a month until he 246 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: even plays his first NFL game? Am I missing something there? 247 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: I just like getting you fired up. I think you 248 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: made a good point about not knowing what the practice 249 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: script is because I'll give you a great example. If 250 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: it is a third and long period, which means that 251 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: every snap the Jets offense takes, whether that's Zack Wilson, 252 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: Mike White, James Morgan, or Josh Johnson, it is third 253 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: and ten plus, which means that the defensive line can 254 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: pin their ears back and really get after the quarterback. 255 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: Where if the Jets, let's say, on a standard drive 256 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: in the regular season, run the ball twice and they 257 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: get to a third and four area, the defensive line 258 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: of whatever opponent is probably not going to be able 259 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: to pin its ears back. So I think that it's 260 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: a good you have to take that into account. But 261 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: when we watch, we don't know what exactly they're working 262 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: on on a day to day basis. Like today, the 263 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: Jets offensive line, the reserve offensive line did a great 264 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: job opening up the holes for Ty Johnson, like here 265 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: we come, and those guys couldn't stop them. It was 266 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: full steam ahead. It was like here and that's really 267 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: I think what the Jets want to do as an 268 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: offense is establish a run and then execute chunk plays 269 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: off of play action. And that period it seemed like 270 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: they were moving the ball up, so it wasn't like 271 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: a third and long specific period, but earlier in practice 272 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: when you see Zach Wilson roll to his right and 273 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, make a what I think people would say 274 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: is a questionable decision, like, oh, why didn't you throw 275 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: that away? To your point, maybe you know it's a 276 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: third and long or it's a gotta have it period 277 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: and you have to throw the ball. We don't know 278 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: exactly what's going on. Sala also said something very interesting 279 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: that he's going through a learning process in terms of 280 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: seeing what he can do and what he can't from 281 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: that's all part of it as well. Yeah, you never 282 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: want turnovers. I get that, and I'm not minimizing uh mistakes, 283 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: But where do you want to make mistakes on the 284 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: practice field? Right? I want to make I want my 285 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: young players to make more mistakes on the practice field 286 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: so they can go back and have film to look 287 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: at it, learn get better tomorrow, and then get better 288 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: against the Giants, and get better during practices against the 289 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: Packers and so forth. Um. The other thing is they 290 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: continue to say that he soaks things up like a sponge. 291 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: He can't get enough. And in fact, today Salo was 292 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: referring to him going across the hall. Not only is 293 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: he learning from Michael Flour and Rob Calibery's the Jets 294 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, but I haven't heard too many young quarterbacks 295 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: do this at this stage of their careers. Where he's 296 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: going into Jeff all bricks room, the defensive coordinator at 297 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,359 Speaker 1: the Jets, and talking through things from a defensive lens. 298 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: So he wants to know what they're thinking, how they're attacking. 299 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: So that speaks to what he wants to be, what 300 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: he aspires to be. Yeah, has it been perfect out there? No? 301 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: Has there been times where you're shaking your head and 302 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: there like it doesn't look good? Yeah, but there have 303 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: also been plenty of times on the practice field. Case 304 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: in point red zone yesterday, throws an unbelievably gorgeous toss too, 305 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: Corey Davis back shoulder to sick catch. But that's the 306 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: kind of connection you want to see throughout the year. 307 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: And you mentioned it before. La Fleur has mentioned it before, 308 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: Sala talks about it, Albrick talks about the problems this 309 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: run game will give opposing defenses. Is everything they're going 310 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: to do offensively is predicated on the run game done 311 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: a lot of play action and boots that fit. Zack 312 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: Wilson's game is going to follow. It's not like Sala 313 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: and La Fleur are gonna have him come out and 314 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna throw twelve straight times and Caroline on, here 315 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: we go and we're just running spread off us. I 316 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: also think I don't know, no, I agree with everything 317 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: you're saying. I also think that over the next week 318 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: between the green Bay joint practice, let's let me rewind 319 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: the Giants Gang, the Green Boy, the Green Boy, the 320 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: green Bay joint practices, and the game next Saturday against 321 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: the Packers at Lambeau, I think you're gonna learn a 322 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: lot about this Jets team. And the Jets have had 323 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: what four for four padded practices, five padded practices maybe, 324 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: And I think that when you have joint practices and 325 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: you have a game, things get elevated up another level. 326 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: I understand the preseason you're probably running vanilla schemes, but 327 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: I do think that you'll be able to see certain things. 328 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 1: You'll be able to tell certain things, like for just 329 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: using special teams as an example, when the lights are on, 330 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: that's really when you evaluate your special teams, whether that's kickers, punters, returners, gunners, 331 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: core special teamers. Rand lawyers consistently set it. You can't 332 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: really go a hundred ten miles an hour on the 333 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: fields behind us because that's friendly fire. You can't. And 334 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: when you're on special teams, you gotta go at a 335 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: crazy speed all the time. Yeah, and you're right about that. 336 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: The kicking battle, uh is ongoing. You know those two 337 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: guys who are here had good days today, and that 338 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: he humanity that the kickers gotta love. Um Braxton Burials 339 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: has done some very good things to the punt return 340 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: on the National Football League. Corey Valentine Um was a 341 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: lead kickoff returner last year, but it extends beyond that, 342 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: because who are going to be your core special teamers. 343 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: Justin Hardy left practice early today. Hopefully that's something minor, 344 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: because I like what I saw in limited plays Saturday 345 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: Night when he was a gunner, he was all over 346 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: the place, like as far as when that punt was 347 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: coming down, thirty four was right there. Also, you got 348 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: you gotta talk about Justin Hardy as a corner because 349 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: we often think of him as just a special team's ace. 350 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: Feels like he's quietly having an impressive camp on the outside. Yeah, 351 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: and I know he's going against reserves mostly, but if 352 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: you have charted all the pds in camp, I don't 353 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: know hard he might have the most p ds out 354 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: of anybody. But speaking of cornerback, I'm glad you brought 355 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: that up. I believe it's open competition everywhere. Everywhere. That's 356 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: nickel and both outside spots. Yeah, that's that is straight 357 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: up a fact. And I'm key at the Green and 358 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: White practice. After a couple of days of seeing rotational 359 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: guys on the outside, like Salas said, as I had 360 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: done getting some run, Brandon Echols getting some run, both rookies, 361 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: one drafted, one undrafted. Then we saw Bryce Hall and 362 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: Bless Austin. And I feel like Bryce Hall the past 363 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: four days or so has really started to come on 364 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: strong in terms of coverage, and he's a player that 365 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: in college before his scenes, so his senior year was 366 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: basically washed with an ankle injury or leg injury that 367 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: pushed his NFL debut back up to Monday Night Football 368 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: midway through the season last year and against the Patriots. 369 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: He was an ultra productive player at Virginia the year before, 370 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: led the nation in past defenses. He's got height, he's 371 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: got length, and I feel like if they were a 372 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: player that could take a pretty sizeable jump with a 373 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: proper offseason with I don't know a scheme fit, it 374 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: could be Bryce Hall. You could definitely make that argument. 375 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned his length, and that's what he's 376 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: known for, right So, I think where you gotta watch 377 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: him now as the Jets take the next up here 378 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: in the preseason, as he's talked about defeat and the 379 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: quickness aspect of it, he can only get better from 380 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: facing the guy like Elijah Moore, and I think oftentimes 381 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: we've seen that matchup here in training camp. You're not 382 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: gonna play too many players in this league or face 383 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: too many players in this league who can match the 384 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: quickness of Alijah More. Just watching those guys from the 385 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: press box angle the other night, and I'm gonna including 386 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: Corey Davis in this one. Wow, those guys really make 387 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: some sharp breaks on ropes. Corey Davis is another player 388 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: who I think maybe had a quiet first week. And 389 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: since he's just he's hitting doubles all the time, he's 390 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: not hitting singles and he's not in hitting home runs. 391 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: He's just always there when you need him to be. 392 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: And whether that's a red zone fade from Zack Wilson 393 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: with a nice little toe tap on the end zone, 394 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: whether that's third down on the outside, something over the middle, 395 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: I think he's really come on strong. And this is 396 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: he's really a solid player. You you just watch four 397 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: watch him play and play out. Yeah, he's so solid. 398 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: And I think Wilson a good point there, I think, 399 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: and would you say this is fair? I think Wilson 400 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: is camp has progressed, is looking in his direct action more. 401 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: I definitely agree with that. I think he might be 402 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: he could become the go to guy, like in a 403 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: pinch or whenever you need to play. Even though I 404 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: think Elijah Moore and the start of camp has really 405 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: been like the big play guy, Corey Davis feels like 406 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: maybe the the security blanket so far. He knows where 407 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: the sticks are. He's a very good route runner. He's 408 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: a big body, so he can box guys out and 409 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: get to that ball first. He explodes at the top 410 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: of his routes. Um, he's got very good hands. But 411 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: those two have a ways to go to and I'm 412 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: sure they would both tell you this is that Wilson 413 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: targeted him a lot of times on Saturday night and 414 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: they only connected on like three of them. I think, yeah, 415 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: Saturday night was wasn't the offense's best night for all. 416 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: But it also depends on what kind of lends you 417 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: want to look at it through, because on the flip side, 418 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: you could talk about how well the defense played, and 419 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: I think the defense has been very impress said. Also, 420 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: you have to take into account that Robert Salis aid, 421 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: at this point in training camp, the defense should have 422 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: the upper hand as training camp goes on, in the 423 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: offense finishes it's installed, which happened a couple of days ago. 424 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: Now the offense has a chance to catch up. Then 425 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: you're on the level playing field, and that's when you 426 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: probably want to see a little more give and take 427 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: between both units. And the defensive line has just been 428 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: really good. So when they're buzzing around the tower like that, 429 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: which they often are. The quarterbacks clock has too, It's 430 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: got to speed up because you've got to get rid 431 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: of the football all. We talked about Carl Lawson so 432 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: many times, but we haven't talked about him enough because 433 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: he's just been awesome. And then you have full and 434 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: runs of Fadakasi and Sheldon Rankins and Nathan Shepard in 435 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: the middle. We haven't even seen Quinn and Williams at 436 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: John Franklin Myers has been very good. Jeff Albrick loves 437 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: Bryce off. I'll tell you that one right now. He 438 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: talked to the media about that he raved about his 439 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: work ethic when I had an opportunity to talk to him. 440 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: So you have a lot of guys up front, and 441 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: hopefully you get Vinny Curry back maybe we two of 442 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: the regular season. Kyle Phelps still bang up. But Williams 443 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: is a guy you know we're targeting next week because 444 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: you bring him back into the equation. So what is 445 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: the defensive line ceiling? I think the defensive line should 446 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: have Jets fans extremely excited. And to wrap up this 447 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: episode of the pod, I know it's preseason, so he 448 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: can't really take a whole lot out of it. Right, 449 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: it's not a regular season game. Having He's kind of 450 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: vanilla in terms of scheme. Not tip your hand, but 451 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: is there a position or are there a player or 452 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: two that you're looking forward to seeing putting the pads 453 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: on against the Giants or even against the Packers next 454 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: week and joint practices. I think quickly I would go 455 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: to the cornerbacks. I mean, we're gonna have our eyes 456 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: on the cornerbacks every game because who's able to take 457 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: their play to another level when you're facing another team. 458 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: And that's not only outside, but that's inside as well. 459 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: The young line of backers I'm constantly watching and whether 460 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: it be Nasrel Dene or Sherwood. Sherwood is the backup 461 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: mike and he's an awfully heavy ball player. And then 462 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball, how about the 463 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: offensive line, because each and every day we're talking about 464 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: how great the Jets defensive line is. I'm not knocking 465 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: any other teams, but if I'm not, I'm a Jets 466 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: off it's a lineman and I'm going against these guys 467 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: every day, especially when Quentin Williams gets back. I'm thinking 468 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: to myself Okay, I'm prepared to face any defensive line 469 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL, so I especially want to see how 470 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: that first unit offensive line does not only gets the 471 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: Giants because we're gonna have to see how many series 472 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: as they play, but against the Packers throughout that week. Yeah, 473 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: I definitely agree with you. I agree with both positions, 474 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: corner and offensive line, but I'm really about the offensive 475 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: line in particular. To me, it's like, well, I understand, 476 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: you have to get better, you have to be aggressive 477 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: in practice, but it's not like it's a not like 478 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: the defenders are tackling the offensive player. So how much 479 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: do you really want to snap off the ball and 480 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: start trying to bury your own teammate. I mean, I'm 481 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: sure that that happens throughout the league, but I wonder 482 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: if when the Jets play the Giant Saturday or against 483 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: the Packers, if they really fire off the ball. I 484 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: want to see what that looks like as a unit. 485 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: And I think outside of corner, uh yeah, I probably 486 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: say corner. I just feel like we've talked about so 487 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: many different guys and there's all these uh I know 488 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: what they're gonna say running back, because there's some guys 489 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: there where they've each flashed Kevin Coleman, Michael Carter, Austin Walter, 490 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: Josh Adams, p Ryan by missing somebody, Ty Johnson. So 491 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: Austin wal there's like the overlook guy that continues to 492 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: make plays. I know, but I just I want to 493 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: see what they look like in a game setting. And 494 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: we've seen Michael p Ryan now run over to Jets defenders. 495 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: He's got a little pop to him, right, Everyone's got 496 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: a different flavor. I'd like to see what the running 497 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: game as a whole looks like. Yeah, yeah, And we'll 498 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: get a better read on Wilson because of that, because 499 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: everything is gonna be predicated on what the Jets can 500 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: do running the football, and we're gonna get early indications 501 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: into that here this summer. Again, you're not gonna use 502 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: your best stuff, but you just want to see these 503 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: guys winning one on one on one battles inside the 504 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: trenches and see if they get some good push. Because 505 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: Wilson is good with bald reception, He's also very good 506 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: in terms of moving we all know that. And he's 507 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: comfortable with on the ball on the run, and La 508 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: Fleur likes to use that run to set up the 509 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: play action stuff down the field. One thing on Wilson 510 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: that I found interesting Daniel Jeremiah was here at Jets 511 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: camp and he said, the one thing about Zack Wilson 512 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: that you can't see practicing is what a lot of 513 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: people fell in love with in the pre draft process 514 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: was him being a gamer and some of the magic 515 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 1: that he can create off script in a game setting, 516 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: and he can't really do that here when you're on 517 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: third and fifteen practice periods and specific scripted periods. As 518 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: you get in the game, you can do stuff what 519 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: you said, where maybe his ball deception is further along 520 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: where a normal rookie is, and that allows, you know, 521 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: that makes the defender collapse on the run. Now he's 522 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: open or and he has room to run and roam 523 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: and he can hit somebody downfield. I think that those 524 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: are the types of things that you want to look for. 525 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: Is what listen When he's been decisive, he's been good. 526 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: Uh it's clear when you see him going back and 527 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: he feels comfortable with it and he lets it rip. 528 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: He's been good. He's gonna have his moments. He's still 529 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: gonna have his moments along the way. But I say 530 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: enjoy the ride right now. And I think this is 531 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: a very good offense for a rookie quarterback to come 532 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: into because you're hoping you get that really good push 533 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: from the offensive line. You have multiple running backs who 534 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: can do different things. You are not going to go 535 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: away from that. And you have an interesting group of targets. 536 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: Now Alije More comes in. You got the savvy veteran 537 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: and Jamison Crowder Corey Davis is so solid um and 538 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: there are other guys in that mix as well. Don't 539 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: forget about Denzel Mims. He popped today at practice. Denzel 540 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: Mimms is an interesting case and in social media right 541 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: now because a lot of fans want to see stuff 542 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: from him. Some fans think that he's not gonna even 543 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: make the team, but look, Denjel Limbs, I think has 544 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: been ascending. I was very impressed with his green and 545 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: white catch, the one when he came back and plucked 546 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: it from the corner. You really saw the aggression. He's 547 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: a player to me that plays better impads because he 548 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: is a tall, physical receiver and when he can get 549 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: on you, and he's a very good run blocker. So 550 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: I think that he's somebody that will benefit from the 551 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: pad being on, and we'll see how he performs against 552 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: the Giants, as we'll see for the entire New York 553 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: Jets team. And that's all we have here on this 554 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: episode of the Official Jets Podcast.