WEBVTT - Draft Show_2_11.mp3 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:09.559 Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:13.360 for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:17.919 confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco. And now 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.120 your host, Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:27.600 Today is Tuesday, February eleventh, twenty twenty five, and we 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.760 are seventy two days away from the NFL Draft in 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.959 Green Bay, Wisconsin. Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.120 Miller Light, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. We've 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.120 got Brian brought us, Zach Walchuck, Tommy Yarsh, Chris Beam 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:40.760 in the back. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:41.400 Of Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:45.960 Glad you're with us today for a back in session 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:47.200 draft show act. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.040 That's the way I want to put it. We've been 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:50.120 all over the place. 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:52.839 Tommy and I were out at the Senior Bowl and 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.480 Mobile missed a couple of shows, had our radio row 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.440 out there for a little bit, and then you guys 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:00.600 were at the Super Bowl during radio row out there 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:01.280 in New Orleans. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:02.160 How was that, gentleman? 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.720 It was amazing. We certainly had a lot of good guests. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.560 It was buzzing out there. The Cowboys news never ceases 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.560 to amaze me. We had Michael Walking around there, Brandon Aubrey, 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:14.800 Zach Martin got to chat with EMMITTT. Smith. That was 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.280 an absolute blast. So it was good, dude. I mean, 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.720 it's unfortunate the end result of the Super Bowl. I 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.119 hate to see the filthy Eagles in your own division 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:23.960 get to win. But it's always a blast being a 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:25.919 part of Radio Row and it was fun seeing Tommy 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:26.280 out there. 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.200 Yeah, it was great hanging out with you guys, And 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.480 you know, I appreciate the you guys letting me hang 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.040 around and the table and sit down for a little 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:35.600 while because we didn't have spots, so you know, you're 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.800 just kind of walking around. But the table I did. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:40.800 I did, and I crashed the They didn't have a 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.760 no loitering sign in Philadelphia next door, I was crashing 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:46.080 them too, But no, it was a great time. There's 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:47.680 a lot of people walking around there, so we got 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.040 to get a lot of good content and even some 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:51.920 draft stuff too, so I'm sure we'll get into that. 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:53.800 Yeah. I thought it was really interesting to what Emmitt 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.360 Smith said on about he wouldn't take genty because he 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.840 doesn't think the coaches can use genty the right way. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.920 So that's interesting to me that you know that, and 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.600 that seems to be a very very popular theme right now. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.120 Is Gent's spot where he seems to be falling is 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.800 Dallas at twelve. We'll see what happens ahead of you, 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.320 you know. But it was very interesting that to me, 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.720 I keep saying that, but it just I mean, he 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.400 was adamant that. He's like, listen, you don't know if 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.040 he's guys are going to use him the right way. 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.720 This team's not ready for him. And I was like, 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.280 I have a plan. I was like, damn, I go 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.440 that's you know, I'm I'm about getting good players. I'm 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.080 about getting great players. I think that kid's a great player. 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.079 And to me just adding that, but to hear him 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:39.560 say that, it was very Uh, it was very eye opening. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.600 Not shocking, but eye opening for sure. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.359 With Emmett's saying that though it's not like it's it's 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.440 somebody with him, it's not Gospel's, but. 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.079 It's somebody Jerry listens to it. 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.320 But does he know exactly what this coaching staff is thinking? 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.480 That's the problem? Am I right about that? Zach? Was 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.440 that the that what he was trying to kind up 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:56.919 wint out. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.679 He has pointed out the lack of a plan. Maybe 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.560 the lack vision. I do wonder, you know, has he 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:06.400 been following the coaching hires as closely and he's a 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.239 busy man. I mean no disrespect to Emmett, but I 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.040 would think I feel better now than I did a 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:14.680 month ago, absolutely that they would take in Ashton Genty 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:16.760 and he would be in a position to succeed. When 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.120 you think of what Clayton Adams brings to the table, 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.520 the new Kansas State coach Riley coming in here, I 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.160 think that shot. He's done an excellent job building this 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:29.800 staff and putting a blend of new voices, new ideas 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.239 from the college level, but also some trusted NFL voices 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.000 as well to where now I do think they would 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.640 have a plan drafting Ashton Genty. I think a month 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.240 ago Emmett's point was spot on, sure, But now I 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.720 think this team, if there's one thing that I'm confident in, 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.720 They're are going to focus on running the football. And 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.600 it's not just speak like we've kind of heard no 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.320 offense under Mike McCarthy the last couple of years. I 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.960 think this is going to be taken into action, at 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.080 least from the Highers so far well. 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.600 And Brian Schottenheimer, at least from the outside. Look again, 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.760 he's hiring guys to put them in positions to be 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.400 successful by doing what they do best. Because Schottenheimer, I 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.400 could be completely wrong because we've never seen him as 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.120 a first year head coach. He's going to have to 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:12.640 figure out a lot of it in his own right. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.280 But I don't see him as the overarching it's my 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.839 way or the highway sort of head coach. Not yet, 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.200 not to that point yet, And I think at times 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.560 that was what Mike McCarthy fell into, as a my 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.719 way or the highway head coach. He's bringing in guys 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.440 like Adams, He's bringing in guys like Riley that are 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.840 going to help do what they do best, what they 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.200 did at Arizona, what they did at Kansas State, and 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:35.839 that could possibly bode well. 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.000 Ford Wells too. Standing over Lunda Wells in around and 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:39.839 he knows how to run. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:41.960 The football, no doubt, and kind of to go off 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.560 of that point, every staff hire they've made, I feel like, 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.560 is tipping their hand towards Hey, our offensive identity is 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.159 going to be all about running the ball. I mean, 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.520 you look at what Connor Riley did at Kansas State. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.040 You think about how well they ran the ball with 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.120 DJ Giddens and Avery Johnson as a kind of a 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.080 dual threat quarterback there, Clayton Adams, what he was able 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.840 to do with James Connor out with the Cardinals in 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.320 Arizona and then Derek Foster, and how he was able 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.280 to have Alvin Kamara have a career year last year. 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.479 And he's had a good track record of developing. So 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.360 that makes Ashton Genty all the more likely. I feel 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.159 like at that twelve spot, the question is does he 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.680 get there? Yeah, because now you're starting to see him. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.640 He's already a great player, and everybody knows he's a 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.320 great player, and I think that in the last couple 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.640 of weeks he's kind of moved up if anything. So 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.960 you know, you wonder is a Chicago going to gamble 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.120 on him at twelve? Maybe the Raiders at six, if 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.400 they feel like they can wait for a quarterback until 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.240 the later rounds, or if they get a you know, 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.000 if they go to free agency for the quarterback. Chicago 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.720 at ten, Chicago at ten, Yeah, that would make a 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.479 lot of sense. But I've had a lot of conversations 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.080 recently with folks around the Boise State program about Genty, 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.800 I'm completely sold. I think this Obviously, the on the 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.160 field stuff is the real deal. But the characters there, 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.200 the character is absolutely there, and everybody speaks very glowingly 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.479 about him. And we ran into him briefly at the 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:00.479 Super Bowl two and he he said it before, he 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.200 wants to be in Dallas. He played at lone Star 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:03.800 High School, so he said it'd be cool to wear 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:04.560 a star on his helmet. 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.880 Yeah. But I think, to me, this is the problem 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:08.800 that you run into and the reason why you're starting 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.600 to see him come up the board. People are figuring 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.000 out this draft. The top of this draft that's kind 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.920 of wonky. Yeah, you know, there's really one or two 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.279 guys that you would really hang your hat on. I 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.800 don't think there's an offensive lineman, you know. And I 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.840 found out to talking to some people about you know, 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.680 Josh Simmons his knee. It's a Betel attendant and it's 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.359 not good. Oh, and so that's where you're at with that. 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.200 Will doctor Cooper and those guys, you know, how will 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.320 that medical come off of the combine here at the 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.440 end of the month, you know, will he get a 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.520 clean bill of health. How long will it take for 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.920 him to be ready? You know, I just think there's 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.400 so much uncertainty at the offensive line spot. You know, 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.680 you talk about running the ball. Will Dallas make the 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.400 commitment to go ahead and drafting another offensive lineman? You know? 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.400 And do you even want to draft another offensive lineman 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.080 when you don't know? You know some of this group. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.800 Do they play tackles, do they play guard? It is 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:03.080 not how we've seen the offensive lines of past drafts. 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.160 And I think that the reason why guys like Genty 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.640 and Carter and people like that they're talking about him 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.920 so high, maybe even Graham from Michigan the defensive tackle 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.240 these are to me or players that are that are 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.920 you can hang your hat on everybody else in the 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.200 top of that draft ahead of Dallas and even where 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.800 Dallas might be picking. Uh, it might be a little 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.240 bit of a like okay, here we go. Hang on 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.800 your ear boy. You know we're you know, we're gonna draft, 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.880 and you know that's the way it is. I think 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.600 the further you get back into the draft, maybe you 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.760 have a little bit more of that sense of calmness 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.360 about your board, but the big top of your board 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.360 is probably going to be a little chaotic right now. 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.720 When you're trying to look for the sure thing, you 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.040 don't want to make a mistake. You not want to 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:49.960 make a mistake because you can see how that'll set 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:50.440 you back. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.160 And this is why to me, like a guy like 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.840 Ashton Genty, if you look at him and people say, 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:56.840 aren't you worried about the carries, well, you know, if 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.680 you go back and look at the history and we 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.960 work with a guy Ive three the Fan, Gavin Dawson 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.960 went back and looked at college carries for backs and 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.960 you know, a heavy workload and on, it doesn't affect 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.360 them if you look at the names and the numbers 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.960 and stuff like that. So no, I don't worry about that. 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.920 I'm trying to draft the best football player at twelve. 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.760 That's what I'm trying to do, regardless of the position, 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.120 and it just so happens that Ashton Genty might be 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.200 that guy. You could talk all you want about position 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:29.200 value and all that crap, but when you look at it, 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.840 you know you're trying not to make a mistake with 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.200 that first pick. You're trying to get the guy that 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:38.320 can help you right now. And so that's why I 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.160 would you know, I have so many questions about this 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:45.880 offensive line, not the Cowboys offensive line, the college offensive line. 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.000 When you start to tell me about here, I'm wearing 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.120 University of Texas colors. Banks, Tommy, you could tell me 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.000 all about the kid. You know, I still have questions 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.720 about him as a player, I really do. And I 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.959 have questions about my LSU guy Campbell, and I can't 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.280 I you know, Booker, the guard from Alabama seems to 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.720 be my best guard right now unless I move Banks 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.440 to So you know, there is a lot of things 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.000 that these teams are having to deal with right now. 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.600 And this is why to me, Ashton Genty does make 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.840 a lot of sense because I feel like he is 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.360 the best player with the least amount of holes in 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.160 him and probably the least amount of bust factor to 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:21.760 his game. 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:23.240 Let me ask you this, and I don't want to 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.319 get us too far off track. Does that top heaviness 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:30.000 in this draft and only there being a smaller. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.839 Questions not top heavy questions? Questions, questions? 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.600 Does that make you want a parachute back from twelve? 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:38.920 Not if one of those dudes are there, Like if 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.920 Genty's there, Yeah, there's like probably four or five guys 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:45.959 there there. I'm not peris there has to have it 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.800 has to be the sure thing. But otherwise, yes, it does. 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:50.319 We'll take to our point. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.400 Then we're sitting there, all right, We're sitting there in 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.080 the draft and where we've laid chum in the water 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.720 the last few days. We're told everybody, hey, listen, see 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.559 your guy, come on, we'll we'll listen to We'll take 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:03.720 calls and all that. Okay, they take Carter, they take Graham, 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:07.080 they take McMillan, they take Genty. Who we trading up for? 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.319 Who we trading up for? You know, if I'm in 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.240 the back of the draft and I'm thinking who am 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:13.559 I going to, there's got to be a player there 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.439 that they want. Yeah. See that's what I'm saying. I mean, 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:17.880 I don't want to sit there and bail and not 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.960 get value for my pick. That's what I worry about 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.600 the most. Dallas did it. They got away with it 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.760 with the Travis Frederick Draft. They lost the player ahead 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.640 of them, They blew the hatches. They went for the 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.880 bottom of the ocean. They went from eighteen to thirty. 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.800 They should have got a second round pick. They got 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.200 a third round pick because they were willing just to 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.400 get out of there, for just to get out of there. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.560 Here's the scenario in which I consider doing this, and 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.160 it's to get another running back. I'm starting to becoming 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.040 and I've talked to Brian about this on our show. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.400 I'm nervous. You're going to see a high run on 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.640 running backs here, and it's for everything we're talking about. 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:52.880 Running backs are going to be some of the safest 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.040 players here. When you look at cale, the best players 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.079 on the board. Yeah, at Amrion Hampton out of North Carolina. 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.960 Even Trevon Henderson out of Ohio State is getting first 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.200 round type of buzz right now because people look at 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.400 him think his game is going to translate. He's going 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.680 to be a better NFL pro than he was in college. 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.480 He dominated the college football playoff the pass protection. He's 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.760 a three down back and you look at kind of 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.040 and I phrased as you're navigating minefields here. I don't 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:18.600 want to just take a risk and a guy like 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.360 a Shamar Stewart from A and M. I'm having a 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.439 big time difficulty with him crush at the Shrine Bowl. 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.520 I watch the tape, I'm like, man, there's a lot 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.440 of nerves here. There's a lot of physical traits that 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.240 you like about the kid. There's splash plays, but I'm 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.400 not seeing the gold down out consistency. No Walter Nolan, right, 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:36.960 And where am I playing Shamar Stewart? Is he a 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:38.839 defensive end for me? Is he a five technique for 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.160 another team? See a three tech for I don't know. 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.960 I don't feel great about that. But if I'm moving back, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.560 I'm wondering, now, are you going to have one of 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.839 those backs there at forty four? So if I take 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.760 the parachute, it might be thinking, you know what, even 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.319 if it's not matching the trade chart, I can pick 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.520 up an extra three. Maybe I can make up for 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.040 my four. But I'm probably doing so thinking I'm gonna 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.120 go ahead and just take Kale Johnston. Iowa, I'm gonna 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:01.800 fill my running well. 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.360 Why why do I feel like though that that Johnson 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.960 and Andre and the guy at Hampton and those guys 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.240 are all gonna be gone? And maybe it might be 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.880 Henderson at forty four, and Henderson might be gone before 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.320 forty four. See and if on my board now I'm 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.680 picking a third round back at forty four, you know now, 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.480 I don't know how you guys have your board set 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.680 up right now, or how you have your your stack. 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.600 But to me, all of a sudden, I'm like thinking, 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.400 I was thinking running back at forty four. I was thinking, okay, 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:34.160 maybe Henderson, Henderson. I might be lucky to have anybody 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:35.839 in this on my board. In the second round, I'd 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:39.280 be looking for four running backs. Four running backs could 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.480 be gone. Yes, when when I get to forty four. Now, 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.560 if it doesn't happen that way, okay, here we go. 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.480 But I gotta be prepared that those running backs are 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:54.160 better than you know. I think there's a good group 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.840 of one technique defensive tackles. I think there's some cornerbacks 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.080 that you can look at right there and be comfortable with. 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.960 You know, those are kind of the positions I haven't linebacker, no, 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.640 you know, but see if I'm bailing, what am I 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.840 looking to get if I bail? Maybe maybe the guy 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.760 and we just had this really, you know, this conversation 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.600 about wide receiver earlier before the show was about does 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.160 now does Golden come in the picture from Texas? Sure? 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.520 You know, does all of a sudden, note, you're probably 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.439 gonna lose three receivers. Golden will probably be the fourth 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.760 receiver on my board. But if you get if you 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.000 drop down, say from twelve to you know, to twenty, 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.240 and start and pick up a couple of picks, try 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.560 and get your four back, maybe get another three. Now 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.120 now we're sitting there. Now, now we're looking at Golden 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.559 and and maybe maybe somebody. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.840 Risks from all miss Yeah, I think there's a couple 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:46.880 of names there. The one thing I want to ask about, 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.200 because you're not making me feel great about. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.000 The gent even being there at twelve? 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.160 So is there an under the radar position that we 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:58.520 could possibly see available or even a possibility at twelve? 0:13:58.800 --> 0:13:59.959 Is there a guy at corn? 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.920 Is there anybody a cornerback that you would feel comfortable there? 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.640 Or is that a parachute out? Same thing with edge? 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.680 Is there an edge I'm sure you would feel comfortable 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:08.600 with or is that a parish? 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.680 The only corner that I would be happy with a 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.720 twelve unless Travis Hunter. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.959 Just somehow shocking Lee drops ye. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.960 Would be jodd a Baron from Texas. That would be 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.160 the And I don't think they're going to take him 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.080 that high, or anybody would take him that. I think 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.160 he's that good of a player. I think he's a 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.560 top ten player in this class, but I don't know 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.640 if he's if he's going to be their guys totalized. 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.600 I've seen some mixed like scouts. I think bottom round 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:39.920 in the versatility he brings to you. 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.040 Oh, I watched one hundred and seventy pound guy play 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:43.360 at Kansas Corn. Yeah. 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:47.640 Kobe Bryant, Yeah, I love like Ryan. Yeah, but yeah, 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.400 I think twelve. It's probably going to be high for 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.920 some teams. But that would be the only corner because 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.440 you've got you got Revel's coming off in a cl 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:58.960 notre Dame Kiper. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.480 Yeah, he's got a bad You don't think Will Johnson 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:02.560 from Michigan's going to be there. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.840 See everybody has Will Johnson, Will Man I do not have. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.600 I don't have Will Johnson. I think it's gonna come 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.200 down to how fast Will Johnson can really really run. 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.880 I think there's times when you watch him play zone 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.040 and all that and you're totally comfortable. You can watch 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.880 him with last year cover Marvin Harrison and feel good 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:24.360 about that or you know, but I will Will Johnson 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.440 started as one of these this guy's and now he's 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.440 this guy. Stark started as one of this guy, and 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.400 now he's one of these guys. You know. That's what 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.640 Michael Williams started out as one of this guy and 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:40.400 now he's this guy. You know, I just named three guys. 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.840 I really don't feel totally comfortable. I feel more comfortable 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:47.680 with Stark's over Johnson over Michel Williams. If you had to, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.240 if you had to, just hey, what did you see 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.160 on tape? Yep? You know I can say if I 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.080 if I traded back, if I traded back, I would 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:57.840 consider Starks the safety. 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.680 I consider Starks. I'd look at some of these defensive 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.720 tackles to one text, like a Kenneth Grant. Grant Kenneth 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.000 Rant come into play there. I do like Derek Harmon. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.320 Harmon's my number two guy. I wonder how they feel 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.400 about him. But the one edge. 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.880 Nolan scar the hell out of me. If but and 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.320 I think he could be great, they could. There's absolutely 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:15.720 be great. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.600 He I mean, the athleticism that he's got is going 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.680 to tantalize people. And you saw some of that in 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.840 the in the practices out in mobile right. I just 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.840 didn't see the consistency, but I can see the flashes 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.000 as to what people would love man flash. But to me, 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:32.640 I mean I put Nolan in the second round. 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.360 Yeah, I saw more consistency from Schamar Stewart out there 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.080 than I did from Walter Nolan. The only edge play. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:39.600 I mean, I would pound the table for Mike Green. 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.080 And I've talked to him. You've talked about that. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:42.800 You know, Green would be an edge And if Jalen 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:44.600 Walker was there at twelve, See. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.720 I'm a little I like Mike Green a lot, but 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.040 I'm a tiny bit worried about his longevity as well, 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.960 just from not seeing Yeah, a little banged up throughout 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.560 sometimes it's in the Sun Belt. He also played in 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.120 the Sun Belt. And are you going to take a 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.120 guy in the top twelve that you feel good about that? 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.720 Who's I mean he had a great Senior Bowl week, 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:04.680 don't He started at Virginia though he did? 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:06.680 He did, yeah, and he and he dominated it. I 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.320 mean like it would be. Hey, Khalil Mack played at Buffalo, right, 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:09.840 true to me? 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:11.880 To me, that dude, just you think that's the same 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.120 player though every potential Mac that played at Buffalo, there's 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:16.360 or five for sure for sure. 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.240 And you have to watch the Marcus where I saw. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:20.960 The dominance from Mike Green when I watched him to 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.120 where I'm not worried about that, but but I see 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.600 the argument. Jalen Walker is interesting to me though, like 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.240 if he was there at twelve because he if seems 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.480 to see him as an off ball guy, that's somebody 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:31.560 that can cover two needs for it. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.720 That's gonna be my question. Where do you guys see Walker? 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:34.720 I see him as an edge. 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:36.880