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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the

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Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco. And now

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Speaker 1: your host, Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 2: Today is Tuesday, February eleventh, twenty twenty five, and we

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Speaker 2: are seventy two days away from the NFL Draft in

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Speaker 2: Green Bay, Wisconsin. Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by

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Speaker 2: Miller Light, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. We've

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Speaker 2: got Brian brought us, Zach Walchuck, Tommy Yarsh, Chris Beam

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Speaker 2: in the back.

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Speaker 3: Of Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 2: Glad you're with us today for a back in session

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Speaker 2: draft show act.

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Speaker 3: That's the way I want to put it. We've been

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Speaker 3: all over the place.

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Speaker 2: Tommy and I were out at the Senior Bowl and

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Speaker 2: Mobile missed a couple of shows, had our radio row

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Speaker 2: out there for a little bit, and then you guys

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Speaker 2: were at the Super Bowl during radio row out there

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Speaker 2: in New Orleans.

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Speaker 4: How was that, gentleman?

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Speaker 3: It was amazing. We certainly had a lot of good guests.

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Speaker 3: It was buzzing out there. The Cowboys news never ceases

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Speaker 3: to amaze me. We had Michael Walking around there, Brandon Aubrey,

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Speaker 3: Zach Martin got to chat with EMMITTT. Smith. That was

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Speaker 3: an absolute blast. So it was good, dude. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's unfortunate the end result of the Super Bowl. I

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Speaker 3: hate to see the filthy Eagles in your own division

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Speaker 3: get to win. But it's always a blast being a

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Speaker 3: part of Radio Row and it was fun seeing Tommy

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was great hanging out with you guys, And

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Speaker 5: you know, I appreciate the you guys letting me hang

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Speaker 5: around and the table and sit down for a little

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Speaker 5: while because we didn't have spots, so you know, you're

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Speaker 5: just kind of walking around. But the table I did.

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Speaker 5: I did, and I crashed the They didn't have a

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Speaker 5: no loitering sign in Philadelphia next door, I was crashing

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Speaker 5: them too, But no, it was a great time. There's

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Speaker 5: a lot of people walking around there, so we got

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Speaker 5: to get a lot of good content and even some

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Speaker 5: draft stuff too, so I'm sure we'll get into that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I thought it was really interesting to what Emmitt

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Speaker 4: Smith said on about he wouldn't take genty because he

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Speaker 4: doesn't think the coaches can use genty the right way.

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Speaker 4: So that's interesting to me that you know that, and

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Speaker 4: that seems to be a very very popular theme right now.

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Speaker 4: Is Gent's spot where he seems to be falling is

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Speaker 4: Dallas at twelve. We'll see what happens ahead of you,

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Speaker 4: you know. But it was very interesting that to me,

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Speaker 4: I keep saying that, but it just I mean, he

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Speaker 4: he's guys are going to use him the right way.

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Speaker 4: This team's not ready for him. And I was like,

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Speaker 4: I have a plan. I was like, damn, I go

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Speaker 4: that's you know, I'm I'm about getting good players. I'm

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Speaker 4: And to me just adding that, but to hear him

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Speaker 4: Not shocking, but eye opening for sure.

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Speaker 2: With Emmett's saying that though it's not like it's it's

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Speaker 2: somebody with him, it's not Gospel's, but.

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Speaker 4: It's somebody Jerry listens to it.

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Speaker 3: But does he know exactly what this coaching staff is thinking?

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Speaker 4: That's the problem? Am I right about that? Zach? Was

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Speaker 3: He has pointed out the lack of a plan. Maybe

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Speaker 3: the lack vision. I do wonder, you know, has he

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Speaker 3: been following the coaching hires as closely and he's a

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Speaker 3: month ago, absolutely that they would take in Ashton Genty

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Speaker 3: and he would be in a position to succeed. When

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Speaker 3: have a plan drafting Ashton Genty. I think a month

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Speaker 2: And Brian Schottenheimer, at least from the outside. Look again,

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Speaker 2: But I don't see him as the overarching it's my

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Speaker 4: Ford Wells too. Standing over Lunda Wells in around and

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Speaker 5: The football, no doubt, and kind of to go off

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Speaker 5: And he's had a good track record of developing. So

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Speaker 5: that makes Ashton Genty all the more likely. I feel

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Speaker 5: He's already a great player, and everybody knows he's a

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Speaker 5: you know, you wonder is a Chicago going to gamble

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Speaker 5: lot of sense. But I've had a lot of conversations

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Speaker 5: I'm completely sold. I think this Obviously, the on the

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Speaker 4: Yeah. But I think, to me, this is the problem

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Speaker 4: commitment to go ahead and drafting another offensive lineman? You know?

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Speaker 4: And do you even want to draft another offensive lineman

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Speaker 4: not how we've seen the offensive lines of past drafts.

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Speaker 4: And I think that the reason why guys like Genty

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Speaker 2: When you're trying to look for the sure thing, you

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Speaker 4: And this is why to me, like a guy like

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Speaker 4: aren't you worried about the carries, well, you know, if

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Speaker 4: you know, a heavy workload and on, it doesn't affect

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Speaker 4: them if you look at the names and the numbers

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Speaker 4: and stuff like that. So no, I don't worry about that.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to draft the best football player at twelve.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to do, regardless of the position,

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Speaker 4: and it just so happens that Ashton Genty might be

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Speaker 4: that guy. You could talk all you want about position

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Speaker 4: would you know, I have so many questions about this

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Speaker 4: When you start to tell me about here, I'm wearing

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Speaker 4: University of Texas colors. Banks, Tommy, you could tell me

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Speaker 4: all about the kid. You know, I still have questions

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Speaker 4: about him as a player, I really do. And I

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Speaker 4: have questions about my LSU guy Campbell, and I can't

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Speaker 4: I you know, Booker, the guard from Alabama seems to

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Speaker 4: be my best guard right now unless I move Banks

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Speaker 4: to So you know, there is a lot of things

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Speaker 4: And this is why to me, Ashton Genty does make

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Speaker 4: a lot of sense because I feel like he is

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, and I don't want to

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Speaker 5: get us too far off track. Does that top heaviness

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Speaker 4: Questions not top heavy questions? Questions, questions?

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Speaker 5: Does that make you want a parachute back from twelve?

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Speaker 4: Why why do I feel like though that that Johnson

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you guys have your board set

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Speaker 4: But I gotta be prepared that those running backs are

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Speaker 4: You know, those are kind of the positions I haven't linebacker, no,

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Speaker 4: now does Golden come in the picture from Texas? Sure?

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Speaker 2: Risks from all miss Yeah, I think there's a couple

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Speaker 3: The gent even being there at twelve?

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Speaker 2: So is there an under the radar position that we

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Speaker 3: Is there a guy at corn?

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Speaker 2: Is there anybody a cornerback that you would feel comfortable there?

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Speaker 5: The only corner that I would be happy with a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got a bad You don't think Will Johnson

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Speaker 4: See everybody has Will Johnson, Will Man I do not have.

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Speaker 4: I think there's times when you watch him play zone

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Speaker 3: I consider Starks. I'd look at some of these defensive

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Speaker 4: Nolan scar the hell out of me. If but and

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Speaker 4: I think he could be great, they could. There's absolutely

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Speaker 3: He I mean, the athleticism that he's got is going

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Speaker 3: I mean I put Nolan in the second round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw more consistency from Schamar Stewart out there

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Speaker 2: I mean, I would pound the table for Mike Green.

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Speaker 3: You know, Green would be an edge And if Jalen

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Speaker 2: To me, that dude, just you think that's the same

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Speaker 4: And you have to watch the Marcus where I saw.

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Speaker 5: Does he give you a consonant ability to win at edge?

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Speaker 4: Betides, there's going to be a problem. That's what the

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Speaker 4: But you could play him, like you said, Tommy, you

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Speaker 4: could play him in coverage, you could play him downhill,

435
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Speaker 4: you could play him off the edge. You know, there's

436
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Speaker 4: a lot to like about him as a particularly as

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Speaker 4: a player. But man, the picks just ahead of me

438
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Speaker 4: are scaring the hell out of me, you know, not

439
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Speaker 4: from the fact that they're going. I'm kind of hoping

440
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Speaker 4: though some of these guys do go, so I don't

441
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Speaker 4: have to worry about it, you know that. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: you know, but I think there's some people, and this

443
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Speaker 4: is going to sound crazy, I think some people out

444
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Speaker 4: there that are hopeful that Genti's off the board before

445
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Speaker 4: Dallas picks. People just don't want just people, just people

446
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Speaker 4: in joke, nobody. There's people that like, do not want

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Speaker 4: Dallas to take a running back in the first round,

448
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Speaker 4: and they're just hopeful, Wow, if Dallas, if Gent's off

449
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Speaker 4: the board, that takes Jerry out of the mix from

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Speaker 4: having to make that call, you know. I mean they're thinking, like, well,

451
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Speaker 4: you know, hey, if if we if we take him, Yeah,

452
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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be too happy about that. That's some people.

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Speaker 4: If he's not there and we don't have to make

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Speaker 4: that decision, you know, but you're gonna have to live

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Speaker 4: if he goes somewhere else and shows up, you know,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna have to live with that.

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Speaker 2: It'll be Barkley two point zero again. You know, you

458
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Speaker 2: didn't have a chance to draft him.

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Speaker 4: But no, it would give.

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Speaker 3: It would give kind of that same thought of like, man,

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Speaker 3: you could have done.

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Speaker 4: So okay, let me ask you this. This is just

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Speaker 4: how real quick, how much we got time? We're good?

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, we can go a little bit, all right,

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Speaker 3: real quick, okay.

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Speaker 4: On my third round board Sampson, Tennessee, Harvey, UCF, Junkins,

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Speaker 4: Ohio State, Neil, Kansas, Scautaboo, Arazon running backs all third round.

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Speaker 4: If you had to take one of those guys at

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Speaker 4: forty four, who would you take?

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Speaker 3: Name those it one more time?

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Speaker 4: Sampson, Tennessee, Harvey, UCF, Jenkins, Ohio State, Neil Kansas, Scautaboo

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Speaker 4: from Arizona State. That's on my board. But if I

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Speaker 4: had to take one of those guys, I'm gonna say that.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Genti's gone, Hampton's gone, Henderson's gone, Johnson's gone.

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Speaker 4: If say I had to take a running back out

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Speaker 4: of that group, which group? Which guy would you take?

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Speaker 2: Either Samson or Johnson? Samson from Tennessee or Johnson? You

478
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Speaker 2: have no shot at oh you're saying he's off the board.

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Speaker 2: He's off the board. Sampson, Harvey, Jenkins, Neil Scataboo, I

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Speaker 2: would do Samson. It'd be Harvey or Judkins for me,

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Speaker 2: and I think I think i'd go with Harvey.

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Speaker 4: Wow, why'd you say that with clinched teeth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because honestly, the guy that i'd wait on is

484
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Speaker 3: the Case State back.

485
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Speaker 4: Oh see Gettings drives me nuts because I don't think

486
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Speaker 4: he could run fast. I love him.

487
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Speaker 3: DJ Giddens, Yeah, I love him. I like, I don't

488
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Speaker 3: think Judkins runs fast, but I think he's faster than

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Speaker 3: I kind of.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 3: So I saw him run away from some people.

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Speaker 2: I kind of like Blue and Brooks. Blue from Texas

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Speaker 2: and Brooks from Texas.

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Speaker 4: Tech's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Well, see Brooks, I think he's gonna go way later

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Speaker 3: because he can't run.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 4: I mean, but.

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Speaker 3: He's a three down back. But I'm not talking about

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Speaker 3: taking him at forty four.

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Speaker 4: Okay, here's a big difference.

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Speaker 5: If we're talking about three down backs, then you take

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Speaker 5: Judkins from Ohio State. That would be my pick. But

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Speaker 5: if you kind of want more versatility, I'd take Devin

505
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Speaker 5: Neil from Kansas. I think he's one of the better

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Speaker 5: receiving backs, if not the best receiving man.

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Speaker 4: Why do you guys hate Dylan Samson from Tennessee. I don't.

508
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Speaker 4: I got it. I got him. I got him. On

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Speaker 4: top of all, I think he's better than all that's

510
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Speaker 4: an explosive player right there. Yeah, and I love jas.

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Speaker 3: He's a creator and you don't have that.

512
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Speaker 4: He is a creator.

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Speaker 3: People argue for Harvey all day though, But I like

514
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Speaker 3: Harvey's a creator too. I just don't think he has

515
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Speaker 3: that same juice that Samson does. He lets you know

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Speaker 3: that Samson's got rear juice. Yeah, some of the running

517
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Speaker 3: backs this draft, but I think Harvey probably is the

518
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Speaker 3: second most explosive out of the guys that you named

519
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Speaker 3: for me. And he's also tough as hell, Like he

520
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Speaker 3: could be the Bucky Irving of this draft.

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Speaker 4: You could also eat a sandwich off the top of

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Speaker 4: his head. He could.

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Speaker 3: But I'll fight for that K State kid man. And

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Speaker 3: you got their offensive line. Man, somebody knows better.

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Speaker 4: Put your name next. Seriously, though, what do you think

526
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Speaker 4: he's gonna run four or five?

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Speaker 7: Five?

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Speaker 4: I think it's fetch I think.

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Speaker 3: He'll be a little faster than you're giving him credit.

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Speaker 4: Four or five. I mean you go four, four nine.

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Speaker 4: I tell you what I'm gonna go four five for him.

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Speaker 4: We send you to Manhattan. You can time him and

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Speaker 4: get him at thirty eight. Arm, I'm gonna go quick

534
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Speaker 4: flicker on this boy. That's a that's a drivable distance.

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Speaker 4: We see. Yeah, watching I do a show, as people know,

536
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Speaker 4: and and Wotch loves Gettings.

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Speaker 3: I like him too.

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Speaker 4: He loves him and I and I'm watching him get

539
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Speaker 4: fetched and I'm like, man, I can't do this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I can't.

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Speaker 4: I mean I I don't have him. I like I said,

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Speaker 4: I like Hunter from Auburn a lot a lot more

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Speaker 4: and I like the Dark. I like Hunter alone.

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Speaker 3: The Runners is a tough runner.

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Speaker 4: Now I can't say his last name mcgonig. Yeah, that's

546
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Speaker 4: just magic Guynguy, Guy, I'll never.

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Speaker 3: I'll remember that now, Manungang God for your time.

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Speaker 4: Guy.

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Speaker 3: That's a good last name.

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Speaker 8: Guy.

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Speaker 5: If you wait till the second or the third, even

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Speaker 5: You can look for, you know, a Devin Neil or

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Speaker 5: I understand, you know, the concerns and you guys' points,

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Speaker 5: but I think I think this.

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Speaker 4: Guy is the real deal.

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Speaker 5: He's got real power. Yeah, you know, he's hard to

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Speaker 5: tired of you or being double teamed?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Like, and he thought he was going to see single

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Speaker 2: realize he got triple team at one point.

654
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 5: He didn't. He just didn't. And so you know, I

655
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 5: think that's a testament to what he can do. And

656
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 5: again I understand the concerns and he's not the biggest guy.

657
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 5: He's more of an athlete. But I would love with

658
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 5: Walter Nolan, you know, in the first round, I would

659
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 5: you know, I would be fine with the Kelvin Banks

660
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 5: from Texas. He's my OT one. I think he's the

661
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 5: best tackle in this draft. And you can have the

662
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 5: discussion about whether or not you want to move him

663
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 5: to guard. I think that you know, wherever you put

664
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 5: him on there, you got your best five out there,

665
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 5: You got your best five offensive lineman out there, and

666
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 5: you make it work. And Banks, I think he's fine

667
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 5: as Yeah, I think he's good as a tackle.

668
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: You know, the safest offensive lineman in this draft is

669
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: it's Donovan Jackson from Ohio State. I have zero doubt

670
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: that dude's going to.

671
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: Be a good NFL player at guard, at guard or

672
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: at guard for sure.

673
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: At tackle, what he did in the playoff was very impressive. Yeah,

674
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: and he handled some really good rushers. Donovan Jackson's the

675
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 3: guy that we haven't talked about a lot, and at

676
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 3: twelve it might be a little rich, but in an

677
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: offensive line class that we're like, I don't know, is

678
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: this guy at guard? This dude's done it both and

679
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: he's played at a high level. I think he is

680
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: a plug and play if you want to move him

681
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: at right guard, if Zach Martin retires, if you end

682
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: up in a situation where you end up reshuffling. I

683
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: think Jackson is a guy that's going to be a

684
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: good pro and I don't have a question mark about

685
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: that about him missing. Like, if I had to go

686
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: offensive line, I think that's the dude that I would

687
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: bank on. If my job is on the line and

688
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: I can't miss, I think i'd probably put Donovan Jackson

689
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: on the top of my list.

690
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 4: Toma like Jackson too, Tommy, would you take Nolan over Banks?

691
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 5: It's a good question.

692
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 4: Wow, I'm trying to gauge where you are here. You

693
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: take Banks over Okay, Okay, now I know I don't

694
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 4: have to take Nolan. I would definitely take Banks over

695
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 4: Nolan because he's not going to fight for Nolan over Banks. Yeah,

696
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: so you would take Banks, I would take Banks. Would

697
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 4: you take.

698
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 5: Will Campbell?

699
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? L s U.

700
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying Joey's Banks your top lineman.

701
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 5: Banks is my top tackle. Okay.

702
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: Where do you have Booker from Alabama at guard?

703
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 5: Best guard?

704
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? He's my number one guard.

705
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 5: To then Jackson's too.

706
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 4: Okay. If I told you I had Banks over Booker

707
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 4: at guard.

708
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 5: At guard, I'd agree with you.

709
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 4: Okay, Banks over Booker.

710
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 5: Hasn't played a snap of guard in college. His second

711
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 5: college game ever was against Will Anderson shut him down. Yeah,

712
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 5: as a fresh true freshman.

713
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you watch some of the late playoff stuff.

714
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 4: There was some struggle.

715
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 3: I think he was battling with that with an ankle.

716
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 5: He's battling an ankle, and quinn Ewers didn't really help

717
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 5: him out a lot.

718
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 4: Come on, Tommy, talk me off this ledge.

719
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 6: But I.

720
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: Like some of that, like play fighting through some injury,

721
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: like we got to we just had conversations about the

722
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: guy they just took in guiding right, like differences about

723
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: being hurt, uh and injured? Are there any of those

724
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: same question marks with Banks?

725
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 5: Absolutely not. This guy's gonna play if he can see.

726
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 4: I like what you guys are talking about with Jackson

727
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 4: from Ohio State because.

728
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: I love I mean, that kid to me is like

729
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: and you said a little growing on me and more

730
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: you said a little rich for twelve.

731
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you're talking about a trade back scenario.

732
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: Or just even at twelve, we've seen if they have

733
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: a guy that they like and they would stand on

734
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: the table for they would be fine drafting him a

735
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: little bit higher than the rest of the league sees them.

736
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: They've done that at offensive line before they did alignment.

737
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: Reach that I'd reach on him. That would be your

738
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: that would be my guy to reach. Interesting.

739
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: Okay, how about way real quick? Yes, Zach Booker or

740
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: Grant Michigan tackle booker Booker, Ty Williams, Ohio State Booker.

741
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: Booker, Harmon Harmon. Okay, so Harmon's your number one. He's

742
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: my number two guy behind Mason Graham. Wow, Okay, all right,

743
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: all's waldough asked the question, and of course, Brian, you're

744
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: the creator of this term ice cream draft. Yeah, ice

745
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: cream flavors. It's all about different flavors of ice cream songs.

746
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: You do the work, enjoy the ice cream exactly. Is

747
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: this draft the biggest example of an ice cream flavor draft?

748
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: You've seen a lot of names, but the same names

749
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: will not be viewed the same through the eyes of

750
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: many different people.

751
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: Is there another draft that you remember like this?

752
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 4: Nope, I don't. I mean, we've had some. This draft

753
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 4: is as wonky at the top of it as I

754
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 4: can imagine, because I have in my mind. I your

755
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 4: offensive tackles, we just went through those. We just went

756
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 4: through your guards. There's no centers to speak of in

757
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 4: this thing. The running backs, I mean, pick a flavor,

758
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: Pick a flavor. I tried to get you guys there

759
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: at forty four to take one of my guys, and

760
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 4: you know I got. I got three different flavors from

761
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 4: you guys. Yeah. So yeah, it's going to be that

762
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 4: way with the edges. It's going to be that way

763
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 4: with the defensive tackles. Cornerbacks. You want a tall one,

764
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: you want a skinny one, you want a short one.

765
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 4: Want one that plays zone, you want one that plays man. Yeah,

766
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: I mean they're pretty much a it's pretty much a

767
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: kind of pick your flavor group when it comes to

768
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: this draft. So yeah, it's I can't remember one that's

769
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: been It's kind of a bad situation to be up

770
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: at twelve right now, to be honest with you, without

771
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: the without the depth, without the depth, I think this

772
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 4: is what we're like.

773
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: Dang, and I'd like to be in the top five

774
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: there maybe so I can just know.

775
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm going to get as Graham, get Carter

776
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 4: or Graham, one of those guys, and you'd feel great

777
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: about it, you know. And hell I felt great about

778
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 4: Simmons until I heard he was a Betel attendant. He sinks,

779
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: you know, and then I'm like, Okay, now I don't

780
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 4: feel so great. But here we are, uh.

781
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: Ask Coofax asked the question, if the Cowboys trade for

782
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: a veteran wide receiver, we're not allowed to say names here,

783
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: we're not veteran wide receiver. Would that allow them to

784
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: go elsewhere like defensive tackle, running back, offensive line in

785
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: any order through those first three rounds.

786
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: Or would you still want to draft a wide receiver? Okay,

787
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 4: let me ask you the question, what are we giving up?

788
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: And we don't know it's okay, what's your level of

789
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 4: comfort for using one of your picks to go get

790
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 4: a wide receiver one of your top three because you

791
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 4: don't have a four. Yeah, it would have to be.

792
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: I think I would feel pretty good.

793
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 5: I think that if you're looking at twelve, you know,

794
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 5: in a Buka Matthew Golden, if you look at forty five.

795
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 4: I'm asking, what are you willing to give up? Trade?

796
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 4: And like, okay, we're minus our four right now.

797
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: Guys, I'm not I'm not sending that third because then

798
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: we're sitting on the board watching all these names rattle

799
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: off over and over.

800
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 4: And okay, we're probably not getting a great I got.

801
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 4: I got a bunch of fives, so I definitely guys,

802
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 4: sound like, okay, you guys, sound like then we just

803
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: need to draft. I don't draft. I think I would draft.

804
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: All right, I like it. There we go, Yeah, answer

805
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 4: that question. Yeah.

806
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: Look, if you want to go a receiver in the

807
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: first round, you name a Mech egg Book guy.

808
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: I love.

809
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: I think's he'd be a tremendous compliment. If you want

810
00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: to go in the second Golden in.

811
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 4: That mixed too. By the way, at twelve, Golden should

812
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 4: be in that mix.

813
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, Golden, Golden's a hell of a player. I mean,

814
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: I've got him as my wide receiver. If you traded back,

815
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: if I moved back, I'd absolutely take Golden. If he

816
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: was there at forty four, that'd be a dream. How

817
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 3: do you stay?

818
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 4: I don't think. How do you stack him?

819
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: I've got McMillan one, Hunter at two, because I've got

820
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 3: Hunter on my board is both a wide receiver and

821
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: a corner. I got him in my top corner. I've

822
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: got it a little interested. I'm I'm, I'm that's that's

823
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: high in my opinion. I love receiver. Yeah, he's my

824
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 3: corner one. I think for wide receiver, he's he's just

825
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: a playmaker. He is, but a second on Hunter as

826
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: a wide receiver. Okay, I've got a Booka at three,

827
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: Burden at four, Golden at five. Okay, those are my

828
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:40,479
Speaker 3: top five guys.

829
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: How much did Besh help himself from the seniors? Helped him?

830
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: Bes Besch put himself like at forty four, if they

831
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: took me, it's a great story. But that guy's tough

832
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: now watching like we talked yesterday.

833
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 3: We saw mak where it was Higgins the Iowa state

834
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: wide receiver going second. I'd take Besh over Higgins any day.

835
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

836
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got mcmill and one, Burden two, Golden three,

837
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 5: Trey Harris, Ole Miss four, an Oak of five.

838
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 4: What's your love with these old miss kids?

839
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: Like I got Harris at six right, Like I don't think.

840
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 5: I don't think that like that stack looks bad because

841
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 5: like a book at five, if he's the fifth receiver,

842
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 5: whoever's getting him is getting a steal. Like there's not

843
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 5: a ton of separation between those guys. I just love

844
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 5: the film on Trey Harris. I think he was fantastic

845
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 5: when he was healthier.

846
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: The uh that's the one one bugaboo for Trey Harris

847
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: that I have health is the health was a concern

848
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: and his route running wasn't perfect.

849
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 3: But I can I think you can teach route running.

850
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 4: Do we got that save on Williams too high from

851
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 4: t I think I'm not high on him.

852
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he kind of had a couple of

853
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: weeks where he was buzzing. And now you're seeing Jalen

854
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 3: Royal's bats. His teammates overtaking him. The guy that does

855
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 3: nobody talks about is uh a Yoman or out of

856
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: Soca Stanford. He's underrated, man. Yeah, he just finds ways

857
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 3: to get open. He's not flashy, great and he's great.

858
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 4: And terrible terrible quarterback player, you know.

859
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, wide catch radius six two two ten. That's a

860
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: true X for you.

861
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

862
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: And I wonder now with the new receiver coach like

863
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: Tes Johnson, does he get a bump at least in

864
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: the Cowboys mind Oregon?

865
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 4: I don't know.

866
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: I mean, and in that dude, the quick feet, I mean,

867
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: what he did at the Senior Bowl was really impressive,

868
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: But for me, I thought he was more of a

869
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: third round guy too.

870
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 4: Voch tried too, tried to put me in a choke

871
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: hold on that one too.

872
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: I have him in the third, Yeah, I still have

873
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: him in the third. A lot of the stuff he

874
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: did at the Senior Bowl was great and I loved it.

875
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: I saw somebody and I thought this was very accurate.

876
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: I would give credit if I've remembered who it was.

877
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: They called it TikTok routes where he was one on

878
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: one and it was That's what a lot of it

879
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: looked like it was sloppy footwork, just trying to get open.

880
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: But he's so athletic that once he grains it in,

881
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: he probably still has.

882
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: His speed is next quick, next level, and you got

883
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: that change of direction, his lateral ability, it's impressive.

884
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, guy would put him in a third.

885
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 5: He's got the footwork to where when you refine that

886
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 5: and you get him to NFL routes and not TikTok routes,

887
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 5: he's going to be I.

888
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 2: Have him as wide receiver eight right now. I like

889
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: that range for them. I have him at eight, all right.

890
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 2: A couple of questions there. One more before we take

891
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: our break. Not that you would want to, but since

892
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: we're in the Dallas media market and crazy trades apparently

893
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: happen here, Ben wants to ask, what is, in y'all's opinion,

894
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: the realistic trade value of one Micah Parsons?

895
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: What is the trade value?

896
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: What would you need to see if you got the

897
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 2: right offer draft weekend in order to make it happen.

898
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 4: I don't know if we want to go down this path.

899
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 4: Being and we work on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I

900
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 4: just hot from my fans.

901
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 5: I can't think of anything that would make me want

902
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 5: to do just.

903
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 3: A hypothetic but that, but that could be the answer

904
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 3: to is I don't want to do that.

905
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 4: I wouldn't.

906
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 5: I wouldn't do that.

907
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's got to be a minimum of two first.

908
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: I think that's like, I'm not talking to you if

909
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: you're not at least willing to pony up two ones and.

910
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: This year or multiple years. Does it have to be

911
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: two ones right now? It can be a one this year,

912
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: it can be a one next year, but it's going

913
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: to be more than that. But we're not even I'm

914
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: not even Yeah, we're not chatting if you're not willing

915
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: to at least go to first. What would if I

916
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 2: were to call you right now and just say, hey,

917
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: I've got to first, what else would you need?

918
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 4: Anybody have to? Well, you're gonna have to. It's gonna

919
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 4: probably be there's nobody has two first, right yeah, because it's.

920
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: I'll take a one this year, give me a one

921
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: next year. I mean, honestly, I'm like, I'm trying to

922
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 3: get three ones if I can for a guy.

923
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: Like I'll tell you what if you're a team, if

924
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 4: you're a team that has a one and a good

925
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: young wide receiver. Mm hmm, I consider going I would

926
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 4: consider taking a pick, and I would consider taking a player,

927
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 4: maybe the player at need. I would consider taking a one.

928
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 4: Who are your linebackers? Who are your young linebacker?

929
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: Linebacker?

930
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: A corner?

931
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? Who are your young defensive tackles? Yeah? Who you know?

932
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 4: I'm maybe hunting another? Maybe a guard. Who who's your

933
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 4: You got a young guard there that I kind of like.

934
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 4: I would consider instead of taking the next year's one,

935
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: I would try and get a player right now that

936
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 4: I know could help me play. It be a starter,

937
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 4: So then I could take that one and then go

938
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 4: ahead and use the player they gave me. But it

939
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: have to be a young player that I kind that

940
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: I thought enough of that I think could be a starter.

941
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 4: So maybe a wide receiver, maybe an offensive lineman, maybe

942
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 4: one of these defensive tackles, maybe a linebacker with it.

943
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 4: Once I would probably look at right now.

944
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 5: If I'm even thinking about it, which I'm not clarify.

945
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 5: I look at the trade that Carolina and Chicago had

946
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago, where Carolina trader for the

947
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 5: number one overall pick to take Bryce Young, Chicago got

948
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 5: back a first and a second in the twenty three

949
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 5: draft of first and a second in the twenty four

950
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 5: or first in the twenty four draft. They use that

951
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 5: on Caller Williams that a twenty five second round pick

952
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 5: and DJ Moore. So if you give me a proven

953
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 5: wide receiver to first two seconds, I'll at least but

954
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 5: I'm still not to see.

955
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 4: This is the thing that teams probably would not want

956
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 4: to do this make a trade with you like that

957
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 4: for because they're going to give you a one or

958
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 4: maybe multiple ones, and they're going to have to pay.

959
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: The player they have to turn around and give them,

960
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 3: So that that would be.

961
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 4: That was going to be something that probably is going

962
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 4: to deter teams from doing it. But yeah, I think

963
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: I would be very open to, like looking at your

964
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: roster and picking a player off your roster to go

965
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: along with that one is what I would consider.

966
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: So you would you would be okay with it not

967
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: being multiple ones? Yes, if the players, if the player works.

968
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: Now, if it's a situation where you feel like that

969
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 4: that you know, maybe you maybe the next year's one.

970
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 4: I would like to get somebody that I could get

971
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 4: right into my system and help me pick fill a

972
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 4: hole that I could kind of use that player as

973
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: kind of like a one or two that I don't

974
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 4: have to spend, you know that I could, I could,

975
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 4: I could don't have to draft that position. Now I've

976
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 4: got a guy, you know, I've got the one to

977
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 4: draft a position or potentially even trade up to twelve.

978
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: Take what you got and move that thing up. And

979
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 4: if you want to try and replace him with Carter

980
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 4: or somebody like that, by all means, that's that's probably

981
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 4: the avenue you want to go. Yeah, it's interesting, it

982
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 4: really is. It's gonna have to replace him though, Yes

983
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 4: you have to because he's he would be gone.

984
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: And then you've got d Law that's a free agent. Yeah,

985
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden pass rushers up. Then that's

986
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: your time one of your number one needs.

987
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot to happen there. All right, we're

988
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: gonna take our second break. When we come back, we're

989
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: gonna talk a little bit more about the guys that

990
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 2: we've been watching recently getting back on the air.

991
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: Who's who have you watched recently that stuck out to

992
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: you as a DJ?

993
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: Gettens from Kansas State for Zach Wolcheck, is that the

994
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 2: best guy you've watched?

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1051
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Speaker 2: who's let's catch up a little bit. Who's been the

1053
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: best guy you've watched over the last couple of days. Tommy,

1054
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: I'll start with you, maybe not the best guy, but

1055
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Speaker 2: the most fun guy. Ola Dejo, Yeah, U c l

1056
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Speaker 2: a edge.

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Speaker 5: This kid is phenomenal. We talked to him with the

1058
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 5: Senior Bowl, and you know, when you look at the

1059
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 5: start of the season, they kind of used him at

1060
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 5: linebacker and figured out very quickly that that's not where

1061
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 5: he was best, so they moved him outside linebacker. He

1062
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 5: talked about it, and after that he was he was

1063
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 5: on when the rest of the season finished, with seven sacks.

1064
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 5: I think he played the best in UCLA's biggest games.

1065
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 5: You know, you look at the Penn State game that

1066
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 5: he played against Minnesota, which guy's got a good offensive line.

1067
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Speaker 5: They've got urs Thry the tackle that we've talked about

1068
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 5: a couple of times late in the season against usc

1069
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Speaker 5: Is when he was at his best, and then at

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Speaker 5: the Senior Bowl he kind of showed that he can

1071
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Speaker 5: be versatile and moving a bunch of different places. He's

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Speaker 5: built like a Greek god. I mean, he just looks fantastic,

1073
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Speaker 5: and you know, whether it be off the edge or

1074
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 5: whether he moved inside, And he was talking to us

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Speaker 5: about how he likes kind of moving along the inside

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Speaker 5: when he's against the guards in the center, just because

1077
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Speaker 5: they're the least athletic lineman on the field and he

1078
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Speaker 5: takes full advantage of that. And he did all week

1079
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Speaker 5: in Mobile. So if you guys haven't watched him yet,

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Speaker 5: I definitely would. I'm gonna go and find his official measurement,

1081
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Speaker 5: but I think it's around like six three two fifty.

1082
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Speaker 5: He's got long arms. Hold on. I'm pulling it up

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Speaker 5: here right now.

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Speaker 2: If there was just why you find that, if there

1085
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Speaker 2: was one guy that I could have said improved his

1086
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: draft stock in my eyes more.

1087
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: It was him.

1088
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: It was Ola Dea Joe, and I think it was

1089
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: old Joe. Yeah, Bejo Joe.

1090
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: I asked him that after Joe Joe Yeah, with a

1091
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: it's like a banjo.

1092
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: Ok Joe, good Joe.

1093
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, Mighty Joe Young.

1094
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1095
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 5: Is that what it is?

1096
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 4: What are you trying to confuse everybody?

1097
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1098
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 4: I joined like everybody's explaining that you're over there like

1099
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 4: playing Mighty Joe Young.

1100
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 3: I love Mighty Joe Young. It's hell of a MOVIEJD

1101
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 3: go back, DJ Giddons, Baby, that's my dude.

1102
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 4: Yes, he was Brian so wrong about that. Won't be

1103
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 4: the first time.

1104
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: Golly, you really do need to get your eyes checked.

1105
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: I need a new prescription over there.

1106
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 5: You measured in at six zero two six two sixty

1107
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 5: one pounds uh nine six eight hands, thirty three inch

1108
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 5: arms and eighty inch wingspan.

1109
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a nice wing span. Oh, I'm telling you

1110
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: he's physically right.

1111
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 5: A lot of fun.

1112
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: Did you guys watch Johnny Walker Junior out of missoo?

1113
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1114
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: Great name Shrine Bowl?

1115
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1116
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: Okay, so stood out to me in the Shrine Bowl practices. Listen,

1117
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: this guy's got some men to him. He's slippery, he's

1118
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 3: dominating everybody on one v ones and you watch him

1119
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: captain nine and a half sacks at missoo, pretty good

1120
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: against the run, can set the eggs. Played well in

1121
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: the big games, Yes he did. Johnny Walker Junior, number fifteen.

1122
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: If you want to watch the Missouri Tiger tape, I

1123
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 3: know Brad Sham has it for you. Just ask Stags

1124
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: has got you Johnny Walker Junior. And there were several

1125
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: guys that stood out the Shrine Bowl, but in terms

1126
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: of just edge rushers, he might have been the top

1127
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: guy for me.

1128
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: Listen, yeah, Brian knows this, Zach, you know this because

1129
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: we've been the NOBU before. What's what's mister Jones's drink

1130
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 2: of choice?

1131
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: Johnny Walker blue?

1132
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 4: Exactly.

1133
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 3: He has the chance to be the to do the

1134
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 3: funniest thing Aaron. But he's really he's a good player.

1135
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: But it would be he's he's worth it. It would

1136
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: be kind of a mid round pick. Is something that

1137
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 2: would be interesting. You need an edge rusher.

1138
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 4: I like that, Johnny.

1139
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: I like that Johnny Walker Junior. I like him.

1140
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: Good player. Darius Alexander from Toledo has been my.

1141
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1142
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the real deal. He's a safety, right yeah,

1143
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 5: defensive tackle.

1144
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm thinking of the different to least another defensive

1145
00:48:59,320 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 3: tackle we've got.

1146
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: This kid physically looks the part. He's got the traits.

1147
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 4: He plays with power. He can rock these mac blockers

1148
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 4: off the line of scrimmage, and he put him in

1149
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 4: the Senior Bowl. He was rocking those guys as well,

1150
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 4: you know, those guys from the other schools, the big schools.

1151
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 4: But there's some snaps where he does come off the

1152
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: ball a little tall, but he will walk his guy

1153
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: back into the quarterback. He can be tough to handle

1154
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 4: one on one. I think the thing is one of

1155
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: the best things I see about him is playing that

1156
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 4: run one on one, double teams, it doesn't matter. He

1157
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 4: holds his ground, he works past blockers, he gets his

1158
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: feet in the ground, he uses his hands, he plays

1159
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: with leverage, the fit, the control, the lateral movement. I

1160
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: mean this kid right here. There's some questions. There was

1161
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 4: some questions about his motor talking to some scouts and

1162
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 4: how he might kind of run hot and cold. But

1163
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 4: when he is on he could be tough to deal

1164
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 4: with his kid's got huge potential. Darius Alexander defensive tackle

1165
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 4: three technique from Toledo, hundred and four pounds.

1166
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: Eighty two inch wingspan, rare big man interception to two

1167
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 2: this past season.

1168
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love a good big man.

1169
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: Did he rumble a little bit in Rumble big Man?

1170
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 4: Rumble?

1171
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 3: Max and hook is the Toledo safety.

1172
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 2: I remember looking at him at the Senior Bowl and

1173
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: just saying like, Oh, there's another Toledo safety, thinking of my.

1174
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 4: Guy, Barry church beck In.

1175
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, all right, anybody else that you guys want

1176
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: to hit on that you've watched recently.

1177
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 5: Stick with the defensive tackles. I like what I saw

1178
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 5: out of a nice peebles, a tech tackles. He you know,

1179
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 5: at with the Hokies. He was kind of more of

1180
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 5: like a past rushing guy in the interior, but I

1181
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 5: thought he was great against the run of the Senior Bowl.

1182
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 5: He had a couple of good days of practice. So

1183
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 5: that would be one another one that stuck out to me.

1184
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 5: In a defensive tackle class that we're talking about that's

1185
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 5: pretty loaded. I mean, the only thing that would concern

1186
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 5: me is he's a little bit smaller. He's only six

1187
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 5: foot to eighty nine seventy seven inch wingspan, So I

1188
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 5: think that's that's worth the concern. But played pretty well.

1189
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 4: I thought, I like that one.

1190
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to put Zi alex Ander on the table.

1191
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 4: Brian, you're LSU tiger? Yeah? Uh do you? I was

1192
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 4: I was going to ask you a good corner. I

1193
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 4: meant to text you about it. Do you like what

1194
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 4: he brought to LSU?

1195
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 6: Just?

1196
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1197
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 3: General, I know we had some ups and down.

1198
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,479
Speaker 4: He did and you know, you guys remember you maybe

1199
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 4: you don't. There was a player that Cleveland took in

1200
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 4: the third round in the twenty two draft called Martin,

1201
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 4: named Martin Emerson. Yeah, yeah, okay, this kid reminds me

1202
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: of the state, right, Yeah, he reminds me.

1203
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: He's been pretty good.

1204
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he reminds me a little bit of Martin Emerson

1205
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 4: the way he plays. And so, I mean, he's played corner,

1206
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 4: he's played safety in his career, and you know he's

1207
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 4: he's a transfer from Southwestern Louisiana. The length, the size,

1208
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 4: all that stuff is really kind of impressive about him.

1209
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 4: But I think the thing about is he doesn't have

1210
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: really much ketchup speed or deep speed. And there were

1211
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 4: a couple of receivers that really just ran right by him,

1212
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 4: and it struggled to catch up. Watching the Old Miss game,

1213
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 4: the USC game, and the Alabama game. It's kind of

1214
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 4: ran by him a couple of different times, and I

1215
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 4: kind kind of that worries me a little bit about him.

1216
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 4: But at six is what I'm working on right now.

1217
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 4: I haven't updated my measurements from the same Bowl games

1218
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 4: and stuff like that yet. I don't think he played

1219
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: in the end. Yeah, well, okay, within six I've got

1220
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 4: he's got the size, he's got the length down the field,

1221
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: competitive player. I just don't know about the I think

1222
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 4: the lack of speech will show up at the wrong time.

1223
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: I have the same thing, says not a flyer with

1224
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: his speed will give up separation if he loses at

1225
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. Needs some seasoning when it comes

1226
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: to spacing in zone coverage and timing at the line.

1227
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: Uh. And then he's got had a little bit of

1228
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: an injury history.

1229
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: Those are my cons.

1230
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: My pros are all around corner with a mean streak

1231
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 3: of toughness. He plays downhill. He had a big hit

1232
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 3: in that South Carolina game.

1233
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 4: I watched that.

1234
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: He worked downhill they gave it to a tight end

1235
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: in the flat, and he came and laid the hammer

1236
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: on the tight end. Much bigger player than he was.

1237
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: Didn't look like it left little concern. After returning from

1238
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: that injury, still elevated his game. Controlled on the boundary

1239
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: with fluid hips and great length. Frame would fit well

1240
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: in any scheme because he, like you talked about it

1241
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 2: as the link he has. The frame consistency was the

1242
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: first thing I looked at. If he was on the field,

1243
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: I thought he played pretty well other than giving up

1244
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 2: that separation.

1245
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just doesn't have the speed.

1246
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 4: He doesn't need to run at the combine. He waits,

1247
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 4: he needs to wait till they have their pro dam

1248
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: bat baton rouge, do it, run downhill a little bit,

1249
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: do the best. It's funny, you said, Martin Emerson. He

1250
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 4: was one of the guys that kind of had in

1251
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 4: my comp area. I put Jalen Watson on here. You

1252
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 4: remember him out of Washington State, plays for the Chiefs,

1253
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: plays agent player.

1254
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: He'll get burned every now and again, but he'll stay

1255
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: steady and he will help in the run game, right,

1256
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: And that's kind of when I and there, I think

1257
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: they're comparable in size. I haven't looked at Watson's size yet, uh,

1258
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: but they were kind of similar in that regard. I

1259
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 2: watched old Miss Alabama South Carolina. Kind of different or

1260
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: almost the same thing, just a different usc is what

1261
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 2: Brian did. But I wanted to bring him up because

1262
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 2: I was impressed with him. And if Dallas is looking

1263
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: for a second round, third round corner at forty four,

1264
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: I don't think I would be uber upset about it

1265
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 2: if he's there in the third, I would be ecstatic.

1266
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: If he's your picking the third.

1267
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you guys watch Jordan Phillips, the defensive lineman

1268
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 4: from Maryland. Just saw kick ass Shrine Bowl him and West? Okay,

1269
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 4: and then what did you like more? Just real quick?

1270
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 5: C J.

1271
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 7: West?

1272
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 9: She's c J.

1273
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 4: Wes Moore. I got West over Phillips. That's why I

1274
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 4: was gonna ask you.

1275
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like CJ.

1276
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 4: Wes Moore, but Jordan Phillips is good.

1277
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 3: Jordan Williams is an offensive tackle slash guard out of

1278
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 3: Georgia Tech, and I asked Dane about him because I

1279
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 3: thought he was my best the best offensive lineman at

1280
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: the Shrine Bowl practice. East a pole out of Washington State.

1281
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 3: Another interesting guy, can swap left right tackle. But Jordan

1282
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 3: Williams like body type to me, moves really well, quick feet,

1283
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 3: won a lot of the one on ones like you're

1284
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 3: playing those practices like the defensive tackles you mentioned. Phillips

1285
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 3: and West had some big dudes like Nizzier. Stack House

1286
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: out at Georgia was another one of these guys.

1287
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 4: Uh New center was huge.

1288
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, got his name. But to me, Jordan Williams, you're

1289
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: talking about day three, you want to take a flyer

1290
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: on a kid? I asked Dan, like, where do you

1291
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: think he'll go? Frounce five through seven, six, six, three,

1292
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 3: fifteen does have some injury issues, which I think is

1293
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 3: what's gonna knock him on this. But he just played

1294
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 3: all thirteen games this past year at right tackle, third

1295
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: team all acc there for the Yellow Jackets. I'm a

1296
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: fan of his as a flyer on Day three. I

1297
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 3: think there's athleticism there that you can work with pretty

1298
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: good hands, and I was impressed with him during those

1299
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 3: practice drills on the one v ones.

1300
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 5: Speaking of the Shrine Bowl, what do you guys think

1301
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 5: of Tyler Barron out of Miami.

1302
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: Boy, I struggled with him a little bit I thought

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00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 4: that to me with Tyler Baron, though there was some

1304
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 4: It's one of those where you watch him play really

1305
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 4: really well for two or three plays and then he

1306
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 4: doesn't play well at all and then rush down the

1307
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 4: middle and things like that. I wanted to like him initially,

1308
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 4: and I couldn't warm up to him. He probably deserves

1309
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 4: to be higher on my board than is because I

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00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 4: think I had him in the fourth round, and I

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00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 4: know there's a lot of people that think that he

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00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 4: might be second or third round guy. But the tape

1313
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 4: I watched, I just could not warm up up on

1314
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 4: him at all, to the point where I was like,

1315
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 4: where's this consistency with him?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was underwhelmed with what he did want like

1317
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 5: Miami at my but I thought he had a good

1318
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 5: week at the Shrine Bowl.

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Speaker 4: He was solid at the Shrine Bowl.

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Speaker 2: But there's so many inconsistencies on his tape and he

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00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: doesn't have anything that just stands out if it's almost

1322
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 2: like the Master of.

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00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: None sort of scenario, like he doesn't have one thing crazy.

1324
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 4: I mean, you would think that he you know, he

1325
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 4: would make more plays, and he just didn't.

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Speaker 3: Those linebackers were good at the Shrine Bowl the cow

1327
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 3: Kids like Teddy Buchannon. He was pretty impressive to me.

1328
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 4: Williams.

1329
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I mean both. I mean you look at all.

1330
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: So now now they're pumping out some good or U

1331
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 3: c LA. She's been there pumping out some good linebackers

1332
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 3: in this draft. I liked Chandler Martin as a Day

1333
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 3: three flat mephis Memphis jack dude.

1334
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 4: He had one.

1335
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 3: He had one of the plays of the week, just

1336
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 3: ripping a ball away from a wide receiver. Chandler Martin stocky,

1337
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 3: shorter to kind of build, but thumper.

1338
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: He had an interception in their bowl game too, in Frisco.

1339
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: He was just down the road. They're playing West.

1340
00:56:59,080 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

1341
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: Had he had a He had like eleven tackles in

1342
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: a pick in the game and ended up playing well.

1343
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 2: He played well from Memphis all year long and just

1344
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: never really got the spotlight draft wise because he's small.

1345
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 3: It's like five to ten.

1346
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 2: He's probably gonna measure five to ten. But he's yeah,

1347
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: he schway's downhill. He'll make it happen. All right, gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: we will be back on Thursday with a little bit

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Speaker 2: more of the Draft show.

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Speaker 4: Seventy two days away.

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Speaker 3: From the NFL Draft. That time clock is ticking, ticking

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Speaker 3: quickly as we continue.

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Speaker 2: On for Zach Walchuck, for Brian brought us, Tommy Arish,

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00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so

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Speaker 2: long from the Draft show.

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Speaker 4: We will see you on Thursday.

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