1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: with lamar As rating win and Jonas Knox on radio. 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 2: How we feeling here? Sticks, I mean, I'm here with you, 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 2: my guy. 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: That's That's all that anybody needs to know, is that 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 3: we're here together. 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 4: Brou what up? Bruh? 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: And there and there was no there was no hitting 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: then you windows, They're just we're here, like, I feel good. 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 4: Let's go right, I'm not, I'm not maybe, so yeah, 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 4: you're right, all right, let's do it. 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 5: All right? 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 6: So we had, uh, we had waited, uh to see 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 6: exactly how this was gonna go all right, because the 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 6: big news of the NFL offseason, outside of the Shador 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 6: Sanders uh drama going on in Cleveland, uh that started 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 6: the draft now is in Cleveland coverage and all that, 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 6: which we laid out yesterday, the big story was where 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 6: is Aaron Rodgers going to end up if he decides 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 6: to play again? And as it turns out, the speculation 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 6: was right, it is Pittsburgh. And as it turns out 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 6: the report was true that Rogers did speak with the 23 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 6: media yesterday. 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: So let's first hear, let's we are. 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 4: Going to a question? 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we were going to we are we want. 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: To hear the first three questions, because without even hearing it, 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: I'd like to believe that I make very very sound 29 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: decisions on things that I say, and I'm curious if 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: I hit the over or under on the question. 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: So here he was. 32 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 6: This was Rogers talking with the media, just discussing the 33 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 6: overall general decision making on aligning with Pittsburgh, and also 34 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 6: Rogers being asked about the big question that you wanted 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 6: to know, is he married. 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 7: Let's take a I don't need it for my ego. 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 7: I don't need it to keep playing a lot of 38 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 7: decisions that I've made over my career and life from 39 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 7: strictly the ego, even if they turn out well or 40 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 7: always unfulfilling, but the decisions made from the soul are 41 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 7: usually pretty fulfilling. So this was a decision that was 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 7: best for my soul. And I felt like being here 43 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 7: with Coach t and the guys. They got here and 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 7: the opportunity here was the best for me, and I'm 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 7: excited to be here. 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 6: Not any for a ring or anything else. 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: That wedding ring. 48 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 7: It's a wedding ring, congratulation, thank you, I love it. 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 7: It's been a couple of months. 50 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 6: I mean, so listen, a couple of months ago, Rogers 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 6: ended up tying the not as you speculated, you were correct, 52 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 6: and so now we. 53 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: Uh over on? 54 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: Uh so yeah, the do we have the over under 55 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: on it? Did Lee hear the press conference? Yeah? 56 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 6: So the big debate that we did for those that 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 6: were not listening a couple of days ago, was when 58 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 6: he does actually talk with the media, how long into 59 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 6: the press conference before he has asked about the wedding ring? 60 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 6: The over under was set on this show at three 61 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 6: and a half. Lavarn and I both took the under. Lee, 62 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 6: what are the results? 63 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 8: Well, he was at the podium for about thirteen and 64 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 8: a half minutes and it didn't get till he didn't 65 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 8: get asked about the ring until about eleven minutes in. 66 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: I counted at least eighteen questions. 67 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 6: Okay, so basically Lee and Lorena won. But can I 68 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 6: defend Lvarn myself here? Why should we be held accountable 69 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 6: for the fact that the media didn't do their job? 70 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 6: Clearly there was a priority. 71 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: Clearly, Hello, I mean is that not the number one 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: question coming out of your mouth? 73 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 5: So? 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: Duh? 75 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: Did you get married? 76 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: I mean, even and I don't even have to ask. 77 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: I don't even have to ask what took so long? 78 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: Like he answered the question in in a different way 79 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: because they asked the question so open ended, right, which 80 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: is fine, give the answer to the way you want 81 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: to get an answer. I thought what he had to say, 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: by the way, with his sound bite was believable. I 83 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: don't I don't know how I feel about it, because obviously, 84 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: looking at it as media, you say, okay, you can 85 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: understand somebody at his age having you know, done it 86 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: all and at this point it's for the love, and 87 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: you could say all right, as media, this makes for 88 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 3: an intriguing storyline to pay attention to because we're going 89 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: to see what that looks like in real time. You 90 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: don't get to fake it. You get to say this 91 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: is how I feel, this is for the love, and 92 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 3: I want to be here with Coach t and the 93 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: rest of the Steelers crew. Great, it sounds great, But 94 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: the problem with hearing an older player say those types 95 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: of things, knowing that the younger MVP winning version, the 96 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: super Bowl winning version, the super Bowl appearance or in 97 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: NFC finals many two apparent in this He never made 98 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: it back to a super. 99 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 4: Bowl one Super Bowl. 100 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's ross one game one game shbby right to Brady. 101 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, there was that he's lost a couple of his 102 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 6: record in the NFC title. 103 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 4: Games, not great with Green Bay. 104 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: So well, here's all I'll say is is that with 105 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: that same Aaron Rodgers answered the question in somewhat of 106 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: that manner, and I think we all know the answer 107 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: to that question. So I don't know this Aaron Rodgers, right, 108 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: I don't think any of us know this Aaron Rodgers. 109 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: So there's gonna be a lot of elements that come 110 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: into play with this. If you look at Aaron Rodgers, 111 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: you know, stat line last year, a lot of people 112 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 3: talked highly of what he was able to do, which 113 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: is fine. It wasn't bad. I mean he threw and 114 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: he hit four thousand yards, which is, by any stretch 115 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: of the imagination, elite. Right, you can't say that he's 116 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: not elite with the amount of yards he threw four 117 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: But he's turning the ball over these days too, and 118 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: it's a high number of interceptions. I believe it was 119 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: twelve last year that he threw eleven eleven. 120 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 4: I hate that. 121 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: Maybe I just selectively made it twelve because I don't 122 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: want eleven to be a negative thing. But it was 123 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: double digits turnovers Jonas and it's not it's not I 124 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 3: think he's only done that. Maybe what one other time? 125 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 6: There was a couple of times early in his career 126 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 6: he had early on or yeah, double digit. 127 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 4: It like what it's like what I don't I think 128 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: the numbers really low. 129 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 6: That and his last year in Green Bay. So four 130 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 6: times in his career he's throwing double digit picks. 131 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 3: It's it's there's the recency effect of what it is, 132 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: what the stat represents, which is I don't know. Are 133 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: we saying he doesn't protect the ball as much? Are 134 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: we saying he's such an old head? He comes across 135 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: as like his hit the guy he prodecessed and Brett 136 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: Favre And he's a slinger. He he slings that that rock. 137 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: He's a he's a gun slinger. What which one is it? 138 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: I don't know which Aaron Rodgers We're going to get 139 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: somewhat say the more enlightened a player gets and the 140 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: older they get, the worse they become because you become 141 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: a person you're not really supposed to be a person 142 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: when you play the game. And I know That might 143 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: sound crazy because guys would be like, I treat us 144 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: like people don't treat us like. 145 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: No, you're not. 146 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: You're like a superhero. So don't take it as a 147 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: derogatory term. I'm not making derogatory. I'm saying when you 148 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: first get into playing football and you're in high school 149 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: and you're in college, there's like this this superhero from within. 150 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: And I don't care if you're a starter and an 151 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: All American or a bench warming practice player. You are different. 152 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: You are different. Your motivations are different, your energy is different, 153 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: your powers are different. Everything is different, Jonas. And then 154 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: you get older and you get married, or you have kids, 155 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 3: or you know, you see your parents getting older. Life happens. 156 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: And as you get older and you get wiser, and 157 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: you see more and more things come your way and 158 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: you've experienced more, it totally changes the essence of who 159 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: you are because life changes you. It's inevitable to change. 160 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: And so looking at listening to you know what he 161 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: had to say. I did listen to the interview. Obviously 162 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: I'm a fan. It's intriguing to me that he can 163 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: go into Pittsburgh, he can go into the AFC North 164 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: and talk about the perfect division to be able to 165 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: right your wrongs, to clean up things and to clean 166 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 3: up your reputation. 167 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: If this is truly indeed a. 168 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: One year deal. Yeah, But if I'm Aaron Rodgers, do 169 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: you look at it as this is a one year 170 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: deal and just settle in on that, or do you say, 171 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: you know what, I Am going to play my way 172 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: into another contract because I want to keep playing and 173 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: it just ultimately comes down to how I play and 174 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: how the Pittsburgh Steelers feel about me once we get 175 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: through this first season. 176 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 6: So you mentioned what to do with the numbers from 177 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 6: last year. He did fall shy of the four thousand 178 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 6: yard mark that you had mentioned, just you know, by 179 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 6: you know, a couple couple uns. Yeah, nothing, not a 180 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 6: big deal unless you're in Chicago and you've never had 181 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 6: a four thousand year a passer. But and then he 182 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 6: threw the eleven picks. My whole read on Rogers last year, 183 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 6: and what version we are getting this year is he 184 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 6: was with the Jets, you know what I mean, Like, 185 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 6: at a certain point that's just got to be got 186 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 6: to be discussed, and it's got to be discussed in 187 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 6: the sense that anybody who's been with the Jets by 188 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 6: and large has not worked. It's why Justin Field's decision 189 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 6: to choose the Jets over the Steelers. 190 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: We can talk about the money, it's. 191 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 6: Okay, Well, I guess you're willing to run into that 192 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 6: chaos because you think you're going to be the one 193 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 6: to save the day. I look at Rogers and I go, 194 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 6: I'm fascinated to see how this works. Even Pete Prisco 195 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 6: spoke glowingly about Rogers down the stretch last year, and 196 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 6: it's hard to get Pete to say nice, nice things 197 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 6: about quarterback in the NFL. And so because of that, 198 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 6: I look at it and go, I don't know. I mean, 199 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 6: if we're going to base it on what version of 200 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 6: Rogers we're getting last year, it's like, well, you also 201 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 6: got a factor in the fact that he's not paired. 202 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: Up with a circus. 203 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 6: He's not going to be a part of a of 204 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 6: a clown show like he was with the Jets and 205 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 6: like we've seen with that organization for years and years, 206 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 6: and maybe just maybe the stability of Pittsburgh is a 207 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 6: place where he goes to, and as we've discussed before, 208 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 6: he finds that more to his liking, similar to what 209 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 6: he had in Green Bay still similar to that stability, 210 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 6: and he says, this is a place I can operate 211 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 6: for my soul, as he mentioned, at my full capacity, 212 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 6: to close out my NFL career. And maybe we look 213 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 6: back on his time with the Jets and go, yeah, 214 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 6: he just got Jets, like that's that's what happened. 215 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: He got Jets, and it's a. 216 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 3: Different very possible. It's very possible. It's a logical conclusion 217 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: or logical knopsis of the scenario. I will say this, 218 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh is a phenomenal place to play football and live. 219 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: It's an amazing place. The food is good, there's a 220 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 3: lot of things to do. There's different parts of Pittsburgh. 221 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: You have the city itself, but then you have all 222 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: of the outside surrounding suburban areas. I'm not sure where 223 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: he'll live from, maybe the south South End. He'll probably 224 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 3: live the south the south do they I don't know 225 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: if they call it the south side, but I will 226 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: say South End. Now, I'm pretty certain it's the South End, 227 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: and that's where I believe the practice facility. 228 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 4: Do they practice at at the stadium? 229 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: I think they practice where the stadium is, which is 230 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: on the north Shore. I doubt he'll be living on 231 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: the North Shore. That's Manchester. That's where I grew up 232 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: and went to school. That's not the touristy part, even 233 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: though a lot of parts of Pittsburgh are changing. 234 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 6: But maybe Digress, maybe Oakmont, you know, because the US 235 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 6: opens in town this weekend. 236 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: It's a nice area. That's old money, good money out there. 237 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 3: So Wickley's good money. I know keisl lives out in 238 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: so Wicklely or whatever. I believe. Uh, I don't think 239 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: he'll live that far away from the facility, but he could. 240 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: You know. When when I was growing up, I lived 241 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: in Ross Township, and a lot of the Steelers I 242 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: used to see when I was on my way to school. 243 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: I used to see Greg Lloyd driving his black Uh. 244 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: It was pretty They were pretty uh popular vehicles back then. 245 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 4: I want to say. 246 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: It was a what did it? What are they called? 247 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: It was like a four runner, but it wasn't. It 248 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: was a bigger It was like a. 249 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: Lexus truck, a Toyota Tacoma. 250 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: No, it wasn't a pickup. It wasn't a pickup. It 251 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 3: was like one of those luxury escalation feuvs. It was 252 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: not an escalat No, no, no, everybody was driving them. 253 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 3: It was like a land rover, but it was maybe 254 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: it was a land rover. Anyways, it was black and 255 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: he had gold realms. And I used to see him 256 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: at the stop light every once in a while, be like, man, 257 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 3: there's Greg Lloyd man head and to work. That's amazing 258 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 3: because he's one of my favorite players. So anyways, that 259 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: is at least with traffic, at least twenty thirty minutes 260 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: away from the facility. So I would assume, based upon 261 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: how things have developed in Pittsburgh and the things you 262 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: see and the things you can do, he most likely 263 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: will live somewhere on the South Side. 264 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 4: Probably. 265 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: I doubt he'll get a house there, get a home, 266 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: but it wouldn't be a bad idea. 267 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a great market. 268 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: But you know, you would assume that he's not planning 269 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: on being there so long where he'd buy a home. 270 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: So you probably get like a nice little property, you know, 271 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: where it's like a townhouse or a condo or whatever, 272 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: down in the south side of the South End excuse me, 273 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: south end of town. 274 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 6: I mean listen, him and his Brian can enjoy uh, 275 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 6: you know, I stroll down Carson Street and go to 276 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 6: fat Heads. Love say Carson Street is the only place 277 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 6: I remember. 278 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: But I will say this, Pittsburgh underrated town. 279 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 6: You want to go and have fun for a weekend 280 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 6: because I don't think a lot of people think about it. 281 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: I'm hitting there soon, like in a day or so. 282 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: Shouts out to my man Brandon Short, the Carly Short Foundation. 283 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: Check it out, you know, be sure you find yourself 284 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: if your heart is in the right direction, you know, 285 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: maybe do something nice, you know, yeah, contribute. He's raising 286 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: money for for you know, a weirdness of gun violence 287 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. So it was good good cause. 288 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: So I'm hitting there. I'll be downtown and I can't wait. 289 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: Super excited. Love love Pittsburgh. So that should be fun. 290 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 6: Go watch a Buccos again, go see the buckles of 291 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 6: there in town. 292 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: And I'm just feeling like, at this point in time 293 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: in my life, you know, I just want to I 294 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: just want to go there and spend some time there 295 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: for my soul, you know something that you know, nothing 296 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: else really matters. I just want to be able to, 297 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: you know, get back home and you know, and feel good. 298 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: You feel that energy, And at this point in my career. 299 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: I don't really care if they pay me anything to 300 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: come to Pittsburgh. I'm just going to come and spend 301 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: time in the Burg. Sounds like a plan. It's a 302 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: good spot to be in. 303 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 304 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 305 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 306 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 307 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: I always pay when I go out. If you had noticed, 308 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: I never let you pay. I don't let people pay 309 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: when we go out. So Lee, Lee, I let Lee 310 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: pay at the at the hotel. What do you mean 311 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: do you pay? 312 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you mean when we go? 313 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't ever go out. 314 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: Have I've paid a couple of times? 315 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: Have you when. 316 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 6: The Well we were at the graduate in State College 317 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 6: and I sneakily paid. 318 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah you did. I don't remember. 319 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 6: Because because I just I was. It was my my 320 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 6: way to it was my getaway. Because I think you 321 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 6: and Lee had one shot and then you were like, let's. 322 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: Get another one, and. 323 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 5: Then it just. 324 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 4: Was off. Why can't I drink? 325 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 5: Bro? 326 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 3: I don't really look like the type that would be 327 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: able to drink. Well, maybe I do. I don't know. 328 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I can drink. 329 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 6: You are I'll give you credit for this because you've said, 330 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 6: like I can if I if I start, I can 331 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 6: just go all time. And I was, like, everybody says that. 332 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 6: And then in New Orleans, by the way, this is 333 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 6: not an exaggeration. In New Orleans, the Thursday before our 334 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 6: final show in New Orleans, we had a company meeting 335 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 6: downstairs at the hotel bar that started at like noon. 336 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: All right, we got off the air at eight am. 337 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 6: LeVar went to the bar afterwards to get breakfast, had drinks, and. 338 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: I am not kidding. 339 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 6: You did not leave that area until what ten o'clock 340 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 6: at night? 341 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 4: It was late. 342 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: You put in fourteen hours. 343 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 4: In the late in the same shot, it. 344 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: Was midnight, it was to midnight. 345 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: It was it was really. 346 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: Why were you up till midnightly? 347 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that night we were that day. 348 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 8: That day I took it easy because that was after 349 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 8: my fall. That was the so you guys were going 350 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 8: after and I was kind of the. 351 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: Which which, by the way, the day you had your 352 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 3: fall was that the day we sat and drank hurricanes 353 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: at the. 354 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 4: At the ball. I think that. 355 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 2: I think that is how that day started out. It 356 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: wasn't that the day after. It was the day after. 357 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because the Thursday, the Thursday, that wasn't the 358 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: day me and Lee sat together. I don't believe. I 359 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: think I came in and I got breakfast and started drinking, 360 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 3: and then they came in, and I ain't know they 361 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: were doing all that lunch and stuff like that, so 362 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: I'd start drinking with y'all. Then I went back to 363 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: the bar, started drinking over at the bar, and you 364 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: know B Mitch and B Mitch can can throw down 365 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: a little bit. 366 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: So I ended up setting with B Mitch a few times. 367 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't leave. 368 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 4: If you notice, I do not leave my hotel. 369 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 3: I'm not like I do not venture out to. 370 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 4: People do venture out. I don't venture out. 371 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 6: I'll see if you can find a hotel with a 372 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 6: decent bar downstairs with a good. 373 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 4: Sitting area, that's it. 374 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 5: You can see me. 375 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 3: You could see me passed out on if they got 376 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 3: a comfortable couch, and if they got what a comfortable 377 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: couch or a nice lounge area near the pool, you 378 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: can find me near the pool getting drinks or in 379 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 3: the lobby getting drinks that they have comfortable seating. 380 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 8: And you know what was rough was Vegas year because 381 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 8: we were in the hotel, we were in the casino 382 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 8: the entire week. 383 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: We didn't even get fresh air all week long. 384 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 5: I did not. 385 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. I treated New Orleans or anywhere 386 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 3: else that we stayed. I treated it the same exact way. 387 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: When we were in Arizona. I never left. I never left. Yeah, 388 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 3: I never left out of the hotel. When we were 389 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 3: in Vegas, I never left. 390 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 4: When we were in New Orleans, I never left. I 391 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 4: never left. 392 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: The only time I go outside the hotels when we go, 393 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: do to radio. 394 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 5: That's it. 395 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 6: There's no reason to Food was weird, setup was good, nuts, 396 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 6: It's comfortable. 397 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: The first day, the first day I got there, I 398 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: wanted some chicken wings and I said, where are the 399 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: best wings at? And they told this one spot and 400 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: I'd start walking. Then I realized, yeah, I'm not going 401 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 3: to do this again. I am not going to venture out, 402 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: not one more time. 403 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: The best by the way. 404 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 6: By the way, I did like cow on So because 405 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 6: you know, Thursday night we all hung out and faceally 406 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 6: took over the hotel lobby and the next morning Brady's like, 407 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 6: by the way, did you notice how I took my 408 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 6: headphones off in the middle of the first segment. I 409 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 6: was like, yeah, what was that about? He goes, I 410 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 6: was gonna throw up. 411 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: He's like, I thought it was. I thought it was 412 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 2: going to lose everything. 413 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 6: He goes, So I literally thought, I need to get 414 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 6: to the bathroom right away because. 415 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 2: We went so hard the night before. Brady was we. 416 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: I mean, we went we went hard, bro We went hard. 417 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: When I can feel it, like when I can feel 418 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 3: the fact. 419 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 4: That I have drank too much. 420 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 3: We have done something extraordinarily and incorrect and irresponsible. 421 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 6: How many, by the way, how many meals did you 422 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 6: have down there at that same hotel? 423 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 4: I don't eat well. I mean during the course of 424 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: the week. I don't know. 425 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: I mean, our single handed league had handled breakfast for him. 426 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 2: They took off your favorite they took off your favorite. 427 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: Zo but gave it to me. But didn't they put 428 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: it back. I mean they made it for me, So 429 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 3: that was cool. Yeah, that was I want to steak 430 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 3: and eggs. I love steaking eggs in the morning. 431 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 4: Man. That's my dip. 432 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 6: No, well, not paying people is the dip of the 433 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 6: Cincinnati Bengals. 434 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: That's the Bengals dip. 435 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 6: Here on two pros and a cup of Joe, so 436 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 6: much so that Shamar Stewart, the rookie of the Cincinnati Bengals, 437 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 6: the first round draft pick the defensive end, he's. 438 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: In a little bit of a little bit of a dispute. 439 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 6: The way this is being reported is that the contractual 440 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 6: hold up is due to the language of the deal 441 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 6: that the Bengals are trying to set a new precedent 442 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 6: with rookie contracts. It's going to give them the ability 443 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 6: to weight guarantees in their contracts, and Stuart wants to 444 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 6: have the same contract that every other rookie's gotten in 445 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 6: Cincinnati over the past however many years. You want to 446 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 6: lump in together. And so Shamar Stewart talked yesterday about 447 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 6: the situation and had this to say as. 448 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 9: In how far I'll take it, I mean, it just depends. 449 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 9: Like in my case, I'm one hundred percent right, I'm 450 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 9: gonna ask for nothing I've never done before. But in 451 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 9: y'all casey, I just want to win arguments that Winny 452 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 9: more games. 453 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 7: In my opinion, I know business is business in football 454 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 7: is football, but have the veterans said anything. 455 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 5: Has there been any reaction at all with your situation. 456 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 9: It's made it very easy when the people in air 457 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 9: locker room say you're doing the right things, especially the 458 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 9: star players. 459 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 5: It just puts that so stars in here. I'm not 460 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 5: asking names, but stars have said do what you're doing. 461 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how many more? 462 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: I mean, who would sign a contract if if what 463 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 3: you're saying is if that's like the accuracy of it, 464 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: of just making it super simple. What guy would sign 465 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: a contract where the team is able to avoid all 466 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: your you know. 467 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 4: I mean all your guarantees. 468 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: And he's not like it's his point. 469 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 6: He's not asking for something different than what they've done historically. 470 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 6: What they've done historically is what he's asking for. They're 471 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 6: trying to do something new this year, and. 472 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: I just think that if you want to do something new, 473 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: do what the other Cleveland team does. Just guarantee at all. Yeah, 474 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 3: go in the right direction. I'm going the wrong direction. 475 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 4: I'm with you. You want to do something different. 476 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 3: You don't want me to hold out, you want me 477 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: to be happy, you know what, Just fully guarantee the 478 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 3: hold entire contract. 479 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 2: Go ahead and jump, Just go ahead and do it. 480 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: I'm with you. It's also I mean, Trey Hendrickson is 481 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: not reported. 482 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 4: I'm not like why they don't love their defensive players. 483 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 4: I don't know their defense. 484 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 6: And by the way, they asked Joe Brow yesterday're like, 485 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 6: is this a distraction? He's like yeah, He's like, yeah, 486 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 6: all we had two distractions last year. 487 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: We've got another one this year. It's like, you know, 488 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 2: so we're down. 489 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 3: One distractions this year. Yeah, because Hendrickson wanted money last year. 490 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 6: Did yeah, Hendrickson, Yeah. The Jamar Chase situation just and 491 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 6: I know that it's a mom and pop organization and 492 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 6: it's family run and all that, But at some point, 493 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 6: do the Bengals not look and go. You know, there's 494 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 6: a common theme here. It's we've got players, really good players, 495 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 6: and they and they all have the same gripe and 496 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 6: complaint over and over and over again. At some point, 497 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 6: do the Bengals want to like step up and go 498 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 6: Maybe it's us, Maybe we got to adjust. 499 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: How we're doing have we're operating things here? 500 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: I mean, when when you continue to do those things, 501 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: you're either insane or you're super successful. Their business model 502 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: must work for them, you know what our business model 503 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 3: is for them might not necessarily be what their business 504 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 3: model is for them. So that's what I would say. 505 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 3: We're talking about a franchise, you know, what is their motivations? 506 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 4: What you know? How how do you measure success? I 507 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 4: really do be. 508 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: Wondering that sometimes for some of these these franchises, like 509 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: how do you measure what you're gauging? If you were 510 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: to tell thee hundred percent truth to the public, how 511 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: do you measure success? Well? 512 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 5: Would you? 513 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: Because it always comes to the bottom line. It always 514 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: comes back to that. 515 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 6: If you're ask an owner, would you rather win a 516 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 6: Super Bowl or make a bunch of money? And I 517 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 6: know they're you know, one and the same. 518 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: I would say, I was about to say, I would 519 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 3: think that you say they're one and the same because 520 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: if you do win Super Bowls that that probably will 521 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: lead to you making more money, which is which is 522 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: weird to me because if you're going to spend the 523 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: type of money to get to the Super Bowls, win 524 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 3: the Super Bowls, like, think about how much money do 525 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 3: you the Kansas City Chiefs have earned since Patrick Mahomes 526 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: has become the quarterback, the starting quarterback of Casey And 527 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: then you ask yourself. 528 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 4: Okay, with the way that. 529 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 3: We're running our organization, does it make sense to keep 530 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 3: all of these guys happy? And if it's the guys 531 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 3: that we're not going to keep happy and we're going 532 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 3: to let go, then how do we replace them? And 533 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: that is generally a great position for a general manager 534 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: to be in because it's not a hard sale to say, hey, 535 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: we got to keep Chris Jones, Hey we got to 536 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: keep Patrick Mahomes. You know, these are the people that 537 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: we have to keep. Are the other people interchangeable? They 538 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: have seemingly been so. But think about the value of 539 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 3: that franchise. 540 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 6: Now, did you when you were in Washington, Because you know, 541 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 6: Shamar Stewart's mentioning man veterans here with the team star 542 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 6: players are telling me you're doing the right thing. When 543 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 6: you're in Washington and like a rookie came in or 544 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 6: a new player came in, did you ever pull them 545 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 6: aside and be like, hey, just see, you know place 546 00:27:59,320 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 6: a little bit different. 547 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 4: I'm sure I did. I'm sure I did, But I wasn't. 548 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: I wasn't one of those type of guys that was 549 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: actively seeking guys out. Like if you came and sat 550 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: with me or we were on the practice field or whatever. 551 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: I was more about just having a good time, just 552 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,239 Speaker 3: the camaraderie of it. 553 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 4: But if somebody had a question. 554 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 3: You know, you know about how things were handled or 555 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: things they should think about, or dues and not to 556 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 3: do's and stuff like that. Sure I had those conversations, 557 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: but I was never I can I can't recall really 558 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: ever having like bad mouth conversations, you know what I mean, 559 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 3: Like I, they ain't giving you your money, because I 560 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: always stayed away from money with players, Like there are 561 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: some players that that's all that drove them, like, oh 562 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 3: you you make this da da da, or shut up 563 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: full you don't make enough money? 564 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 4: Da da dad? 565 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 3: Just that Like I never was one of them dudes, 566 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: you know. So you know, some guys make it about money. 567 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: I never made it about that. Some guys, you know, 568 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 3: like to insert themselves into situation pause in the situations 569 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: that aren't necessarily theirs. And I just was always one 570 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: of them dudes that just you know, I'm around, you 571 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 3: know I'm around, but I ain't gonna get in your business. 572 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: So I probably wouldn't have been one of them dudes 573 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: that was saying you're doing the right thing. Unless he 574 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: came up to me and been like, you know, Varr, 575 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: what am I supposed to do? Da da da, this, 576 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: that and the other, And then I'm like, Okay, explain 577 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 3: to me the situation. I want to fully understand the situation. 578 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 3: Then I'll, you know, let's come up with solutions. 579 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 4: You know. 580 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: But if he were to tell me that they're trying 581 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 3: to give me a contract that's different than in any 582 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 3: other rookie, and that they're trying to say that I 583 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: should have my they should be able to avoid my guarantees, 584 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: I would tell him you you can't. 585 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 4: You know, you can't do that. Yeah, I wouldn't tell them. 586 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 3: I wouldn't advise a guy to do something I wouldn't 587 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 3: do myself, and I wouldn't do that deal. 588 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 589 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and 590 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern Pacific, so you 591 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: can listen. 592 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: To this show on the iHeartRadio app. 593 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 6: You can also find us on hundreds of affiliates all 594 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 6: across the country, and one of those affiliates is known 595 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 6: as the Blowtorch and Five seventy l A Sports and 596 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 6: that's where you can hear this gentleman weekdays on the Petros. 597 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 4: And Money Show. Petro Petro. 598 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 6: He's also a Fox College football analyst and you can 599 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 6: get him on X at the old p P Petros Papadakis, 600 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 6: pet Good morning, p How are you? 601 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 5: It's popping with hello U BA make it? 602 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: Petro? 603 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: Did you know that sound? Did you prefer that? 604 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 6: Did you prefer that one of the previous one, which 605 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 6: I think ladder? 606 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with. 607 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 10: You, but the previous, the previous the former was awful, 608 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 10: and then you know, so was the ladder. 609 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: Let's be honest, but yeah, you know it's a little 610 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: bit of an improvement. 611 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 10: It's not Project Pat Chickenhead. Now, that would be something 612 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 10: and we could all get to. 613 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 11: But I mean that's a good bit. You need a 614 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 11: gun chicken chicken he What can I do for you 615 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 11: guys today? What's going on? 616 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: Petros? 617 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 6: I got a I didn't know that this was a 618 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 6: topic of conversation. But some people are trying to judge 619 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 6: whether or not the Dodgers Padres is a rivalry. 620 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 10: I think it's a certainly a twenty first century deal, right. 621 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 6: I mean, Max Mountsey said that the Giants Dodgers is 622 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 6: more of a rivalry, that that's a real rivalry, trying to. 623 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 4: Dismiss the Padres. 624 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 10: I mean, it's like saying, you know, there's rivalries that 625 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 10: last the hundreds of years. There's rivalries that go back 626 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 10: to the birth of the sport, kind of like USC 627 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 10: Notre Dame, something we've been talking about a lot over 628 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 10: the last few years. And there's rivalries that are of 629 00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 10: interest now because San Diego has Manny Machado and Tatis 630 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 10: and Jackson Merrill and they're a. 631 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 5: Good baseball team. 632 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 10: And the Giants just won six straight albeit there playing 633 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 10: the Rockies mostly. But it's a great division. The NL 634 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 10: West is an absolute fireball right now, and it's fun 635 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 10: to watch because, and you know, the talking point from 636 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 10: the Dodger people is, well, the only reason the division 637 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 10: is this close is because the Dodgers are so beat 638 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 10: up and they don't have any pitching and all of 639 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 10: their pitching guys are hurt. And now they're slowly coming back. 640 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 10: Blake Snell's working out again, Toddi's getting ready to pitch, 641 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 10: maybe even before the All Star break. 642 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 5: So there's a lot of movement there. But yeah. I 643 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 5: mean people go to the. 644 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 10: Games in mass the games are all sold out. They're 645 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 10: screaming the entire time. There's a lot of social media 646 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 10: buzz and excitement and action. They met each other in 647 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 10: the playoffs every year, it seems, and have epic battles, 648 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 10: and there's vitriol between the managers between from the last 649 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 10: year's playoffs. 650 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 5: There's all kinds of stuff there. 651 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 10: So and Manny Machado remember, used to be a Dodger 652 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 10: and ended up with the Padres signing there so, I 653 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 10: mean they did the crying Kershaw do you remember that? 654 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, from a couple of years ago. They beat 655 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 10: the Dodgers, and I don't know why the Dodgers are 656 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 10: so but hurt about this, but they did like a 657 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 10: meme of Kershaw crying and they're ringing Mission mel up 658 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 10: on their JumboTron or their big screens. And there's a 659 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 10: lot of meat on the bone between the Dodgers and 660 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 10: the Padres. Now, Kirk Boom, Yeah, does it go way 661 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 10: back to the nineteenth century? 662 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: No? 663 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 10: Does it speak to the expansion to the West coast 664 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 10: of Major League Baseball with the Dodger and the Giants 665 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 10: leaving Brooklyn and New York respectively, and then those colors 666 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 10: and the orange and blue being replaced and turned into 667 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 10: the New York Mets. 668 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 5: You know, all of that stuff is. 669 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 10: Endless. It's it's a great rivalry. It's Vin Scully, It's 670 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 10: Willie Mays, It's Tommy Lasorda, it's Juan Marishal. 671 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 5: It's all that stuff. 672 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 10: But there's been a lot of fire and brimstone between 673 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 10: the Dodgers and the Padres for decades. And right now 674 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 10: the Padres, I know they have some financial issues. The owner, 675 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 10: who was a great owner, passed away, and I'm not 676 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 10: sure what the future is. I know their TV deal 677 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 10: is super weird. Like Major League Baseball, they have a 678 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 10: great TV broadcast and Major League Baseball's in charge of 679 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 10: their TV broadcast. They have like the MLB Mike Flags 680 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 10: and stuff like that. But all that being said, I 681 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 10: think Munsy's right. I mean, the real rivalry, the one 682 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 10: hundred and twenty year old rivalry, is Dodgers versus Giants. 683 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 10: Now this, you know, this can change in a lot 684 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 10: of ways. I mean it changed in the nineties for 685 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 10: Washington and Oregon right in the. 686 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 5: Pac twelve or Pac ten or pack whatever you wanted. 687 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 5: To call it. 688 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 10: Back then, it was Washington. Washington State is the Apple 689 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 10: cup Oregon Oregon State is the Civil War. And those 690 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 10: are great rivalries and everybody gets involved. But in the 691 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 10: last twenty years, the bigger rivalry in the Northwest that developed, 692 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 10: that of anger and hatred and Rick Neuheisel doing something, 693 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 10: is Washington versus Oregon and jealousy over who the blue 694 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 10: blood in the Northwest is and Phil Knight and all that. 695 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 10: So these things can change, but it's Giants. Dodgers is 696 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 10: the West Coast Yankees Red Sox, And you know, yes, 697 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 10: it's great when the Red Sox played in Blue Jays 698 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 10: or whatever, but this is a little I mean, Dodgers 699 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 10: Padrez is exciting, but it doesn't have the breadth and depth. 700 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 5: Of the of the history. 701 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 6: Well I'm just gonna ask you that because it does 702 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,959 Speaker 6: feel like ESPN still tries to churn out Yankees Red 703 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 6: Sox as if it's you know, twenty years ago and 704 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 6: you got Pedro Martinez assaulting Don Zimmer, like it's like, well. 705 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 10: You know, did he assault Don Zimmer or did don 706 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 10: Zimmer charge it? That's fair, I mean, it's fair grabbed 707 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 10: Don Zimmer by the ear lobes and did a little 708 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 10: bit of an ola. 709 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he handled bar his ears. 710 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 10: You know, I don't want to see don Zimmer go 711 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 10: down like that. And then the worst part was he 712 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 10: went down and he didn't yet up. No, you know, 713 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 10: he just went He just dirted it, which. 714 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 2: Was, by the way, that was wild television back in 715 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: the day. 716 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 5: Oh, it was awesome. 717 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 10: I mean it was like it was it was like 718 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 10: one of those simulations and AI you see, we're like 719 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 10: Trump and sitting in the Oval office and then he 720 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 10: just starts socking some. 721 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 5: World leader Like that's not real, you know, but it 722 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 5: really happened. Uh yeah. 723 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 10: But yeah, Key's Red Sox still means a lot to 724 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 10: a lot of people, you know. 725 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 5: I mean, I know ESPN runs it. 726 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 10: Out like like like Big Noon runs out Brady Quinn 727 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 10: versus Liner, and every. 728 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 4: Year Brady getting ready for that right now. 729 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Oh they're gonna watch the game and go 730 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 5: over it again. At least're have to. 731 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 10: Listen to Reggie anyway. All I'm saying is, all I'm 732 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 10: saying is these things are cyclical. But for centuries we've 733 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 10: had Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers, Giants and all of 734 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 10: those great things and Dodgers Padres is really exciting within 735 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 10: the context of the major League season the last few years. 736 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 10: But I don't know if it has the staying power. 737 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 10: If the Padres have the staying power, then then maybe 738 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 10: it will. 739 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 2: M I'm gonna switch sports on you. 740 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 5: You do see that? Okay, good with that. I'm fine. 741 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 5: I'm not you know, I'm not really a baseball expert, 742 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 5: believe it or not. 743 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 4: I mean you sounded like you were all in on it. 744 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's that's a testament to how good 745 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 3: you are at the craft that that you've chosen to 746 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 3: take on, you know, So I'm proud of you, Petros 747 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 3: than you look. That's that moment where it's like, you know, 748 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 3: two contemporaries that are the same age, you know, compliment 749 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 3: one another because it's like really cool to give a guy, 750 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 3: you know, his props and his just due. Like you're 751 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 3: pretty dope dude at what you do. Anyway, let me 752 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 3: let me let me throw this one out at you. 753 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 3: Let me hurrow this one out at you. 754 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 4: Uh U c l A. They they were able. 755 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 3: To get an offensive lineman that was coincidentally heading to 756 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 3: Penn State to flip and yeah, big time, big time. 757 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 10: Michael Jordan in the documentary and I took that personally. 758 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 4: And I took that person I bet you did. 759 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Johnny Johnny d J. Jones, he's he's out 760 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 3: of Florida, which is interesting because everybody's recruiting nationally now. 761 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 3: And I know the last time we talked, you're like, listen, 762 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 3: they got to rope off Southern Cow and they gotta 763 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 3: get us. See that is has to get the talent 764 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 3: that's local. But I guess my question for you would 765 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 3: be seeing these these types of reports continue to pop up, 766 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 3: how much do you think the NIL is playing a 767 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 3: part in how this goes? And do you think a 768 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 3: team like UCLA, who has historically not been aggressive and 769 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 3: active in trying to help the football team be able 770 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 3: to be competitive And that could be like taken by 771 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 3: offensively by some people who may say that, but that's true, true, 772 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 3: but it is true they prioritize other things over that, 773 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 3: which isn't a bad thing, but just isn't conducive to 774 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 3: them being a national powerhouse or competitive team to try 775 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 3: to win it. Do you see this becoming the new trend? 776 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: And do you see teams or schools like a Ucla, 777 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 3: you know, comeing to the party and saying, look, NIL 778 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 3: is going to allow for us to be able to 779 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 3: sign bigger prospects and bigger prospects from around the country. 780 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, well it certainly does basketball wise. I mean UCLA 781 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 10: committed themselves to the NIL basketball wise. Some could say 782 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 10: they even did that under John. 783 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 5: Wooden when it wasn't legal, but those. 784 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 10: Are different stories for different times. But yeah, they paid 785 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 10: a lot of money basketball wise, and they were very 786 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 10: competitive in the NIL basketball wise in the last couple 787 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 10: of years for Mick Cronin, and that's made them nationally 788 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 10: relevant throughout the basketball season, which is very different obviously 789 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 10: from football. If we're talking about UCLA, it's very interesting 790 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 10: because you're right, LeVar. I mean, even when I was 791 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 10: playing and afterwards, there was this big pr push for 792 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 10: UCLA to be like, we have one hundred plus national championships. 793 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 10: We have all these different sports, and that's great, not 794 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 10: necessarily a bad thing. But if you're going to have 795 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 10: a very special football program, you have to treat the 796 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 10: football program in a very special way, and they have 797 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 10: to be treating separate from the rest of the sports. 798 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 5: And I think that has. 799 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 10: Been an issue for UCLA for years. I know for 800 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 10: a fact it's what pushed Chip Kelly out. Now you 801 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 10: can think that Chip Kelly underachieved at UCLA. 802 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 5: You can think that he was a weirdo. 803 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 10: You can say that he lost his offensive touch, and 804 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 10: maybe all of those things are true. But it's also 805 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 10: true that he didn't feel as if he got the 806 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 10: support necessary to compete even in the Pac twelve, let 807 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 10: alone going into the Big ten. 808 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 5: So all of those things are true. 809 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 10: Now this offensive lineman that flipped from that, we're using 810 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 10: it as an example for the discussion. This guy from 811 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 10: Florida that flipped from UCLA to Penn State, Like, when 812 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 10: is this guy going to. 813 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 11: Come to Pence State to Ucla? From Penn State to 814 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 11: Ucla to Ucla? When is this guy allegedly coming to school? 815 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 3: I mean he's next year, he's a twenty six er exactly. 816 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 10: And this is the same with the USC High there's 817 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 10: a second the USC High train is like, oh my god, 818 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 10: these guys are coming in twenty twenty six. Everything's going 819 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 10: to change and this is going to be a great 820 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 10: recruiting class in twenty twenty six. And that's problematic for 821 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 10: a few reasons. Number one if you're a blue blood 822 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 10: or a competitive college football program and Penn State says, 823 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 10: oh we had this guy, Oh we lost this guy. Okay, well, 824 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 10: or Penn State, we gotta keep on moving on. He 825 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 10: might end up coming back. The point is you can't 826 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 10: these guys. I mean, how many freshmen, even if there's 827 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 10: a great freshman class, especially at today's day and age 828 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 10: where teams use the portal to fill gaps as opposed 829 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 10: to playing younger players, how many freshmen, unless it's Travis 830 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 10: Hunter or something, how many freshmen are really going to 831 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 10: contribute to your roster if you have let's say an eighteen, 832 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 10: which is very high for today's day and age. I 833 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 10: would imagine like an eighteen person from freshman class. Yeah, 834 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 10: how many are going to contribute like twenty twenty six? 835 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 4: Like five? 836 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 5: Six? Five? Yeah, exactly right, six or five? 837 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 10: And that's gonna save USC football a freshman class in 838 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 10: twenty twenty six. And then the crazy thing is is is. 839 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 5: That guy really coming? You know? It's it's one. 840 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 3: That's where I thought you were going with it, Like 841 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 3: are these recruits starting to use this now as a 842 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 3: recruiting a negotiating tool? Like all right, I don't have 843 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 3: any intentions on going to UCLA or wherever the school 844 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 3: may be. But i' musa say I'm gonna go here 845 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 3: because it shows that, well, i'll decommit. You're going to 846 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 3: assume that that decommitting is because of money. I mean, 847 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 3: that's just safe to say that. That's what we're going 848 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 3: to assume. So now that opens the door. Said, well, 849 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 3: if he'll decommit from Penn State to go to UCLA, 850 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 3: then if I'm USC or somebody else, it's like, okay, 851 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 3: let's come in with a higher number and we land 852 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 3: the top recruit like by default. 853 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 10: And is it very different with the d committing and 854 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 10: the committing and I'm taking this trip, I'm not taking 855 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 10: this trip. I mean, there is the money part involved, 856 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 10: and that may be a little bit more above the 857 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 10: table negotiation, But honestly, is it very different than when 858 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 10: we were recruited. Guys will commit, they'll de commit, they'll 859 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 10: say they're coming. And another thing like, and I could 860 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 10: say this as a West Coast guy who doesn't know 861 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 10: his elbow from his ass as a young guy. You know, 862 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 10: it's one thing to live in Florida and be a 863 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 10: junior in high school and be like, yeah, that's right. 864 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 5: When I'm done, I'm going to Westwood. 865 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 10: I'll see you in La, you know, and I pack 866 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 10: up the U haul you know, call you. 867 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 5: Know, she going to UCLA. Shed be trying to party. 868 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 5: I mean all of those things, you know. 869 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 10: But then when it's actually in practice and you've got 870 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 10: to say goodbye to your mom and your East Coast 871 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 10: lifestyle and you live on the West Coast and not 872 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,720 Speaker 10: everybody is into football at UCLA and there's fifteen thousand 873 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 10: people at the game hit the Rose Bowl that fits 874 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 10: one hundred, maybe you feel a little differently about it. 875 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 10: It's it's a fluid situation for these young people, and 876 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 10: I don't I feel badly in a way that recruiting 877 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 10: and it happened, I don't know, twenty five years ago, 878 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 10: maybe more thirty years ago, that college football recruiting and 879 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 10: with the NIL and the transfer portal. I guess it's 880 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 10: not as much of a cottage industry as it was, 881 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 10: but it has become a real cottage industry as far 882 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,280 Speaker 10: as following where these young men are identifying these people 883 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 10: when they're very young, just like your son LeVar, and 884 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 10: then identifying them and then following where they're going to go, 885 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 10: and it's easy for us to sit here and point 886 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 10: fingers and be like, look at that kid. 887 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 5: He transferred, you know. 888 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 10: Five times, or he committed five transferring five times different, 889 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 10: but he committed five to five different schools. 890 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 5: He said he was going to do this. He look 891 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 5: at his hat dance. 892 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 10: His mom got up and walked out, And you know, 893 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 10: it's really easy to point fingers and laugh at people, 894 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 10: and really that's our job. But at the same time, 895 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 10: these are really young people, they really are, and there's 896 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 10: a lot of scrutiny on them. It is a very 897 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 10: difficult thing to be told you're a great football player 898 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 10: and you're going to have a great career when you're 899 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 10: a really young person, because you have no idea what 900 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 10: that means or how it's going to play out. There 901 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 10: are so many different variables between you and greatness on 902 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 10: the field. And we really do a disservice to these 903 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 10: guys by the way we follow them. The cat is 904 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 10: out of the bag, there's no going back. But I 905 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 10: wish we gave them a little more grace because it's 906 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 10: hard to be young. It's hard to be young and 907 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 10: sit in a room with a college football coach. You've 908 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 10: seen on television your whole life, and that guy asked 909 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 10: you to commit? 910 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 5: What do you say? 911 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 10: You know, I understand why these guys, you know, tell 912 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 10: five teams that they're going to be their girlfriend. It's 913 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 10: a very difficult thing as a young person to say 914 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 10: no to these people that are on your side and 915 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 10: seemingly want you to be part of what they're doing. 916 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 10: And it's it is kind of interesting. So I try 917 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 10: to give these guys grace when they commit de commit, 918 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 10: go here, go there. I mean, if you really think 919 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 10: about it, what is modern college football recruiting? I mean, 920 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 10: there's a bunch of guys who preach twenty four to 921 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 10: seven about accountability, about keeping your word, about your commitment 922 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 10: to your teammates, about your commitment to living a good life, 923 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 10: your commitment to being a great son or brother or 924 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 10: boyfriend or husband or father, all of these different things. 925 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 10: The lip service that we hear from college football coaches. 926 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 10: Yet all they do in recruiting is just bend their 927 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 10: legs backwards to get a young person to go back 928 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 10: on their word. 929 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 5: Think about that. 930 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 10: I mean, that's the you know, I mean, we use 931 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 10: all these platts dud's about being a great person and 932 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,399 Speaker 10: accountable and truth justice in the American way and put 933 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 10: the s on the chest. And really, these guys go 934 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 10: in somebody's room and be. 935 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 5: Like, forget what you said to Kirby Smart, come to 936 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 5: Old mass right, We're gonna take carry of the Kiffins. 937 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 6: Do you guys, Do you guys find yourself because I've 938 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 6: I've found myself getting more and more exhausted by the 939 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 6: storylines surrounding college football to where it's nil transfer portal 940 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 6: college football playoff twelve team sixteen automatic qualifiers. This conference 941 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 6: wants this, this conference. And I don't know if it's 942 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 6: because I just longed for simpler times, but I find 943 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 6: myself worn out by the constant discussion about changes that 944 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 6: need to be made, and I just want to watch 945 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 6: the games. 946 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 5: Do Yeah? And the off season is exhausting. 947 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean really is. 948 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 2: I just want to get to the games, and that's true. 949 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 10: And we're all striving to get to the games. And 950 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 10: I guess the NFL and the NBA have found different 951 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 10: ways to entertain people in the off season. You know, 952 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 10: even though nothing actually happens at the draft, everybody watches 953 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 10: like nothing actually happens. There's no real competition that you 954 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 10: know that that's not why we're watching. But and the 955 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 10: NBA with their free agency and the way that works out, 956 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 10: and the hot takes from this person and that person 957 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 10: and who said what on a podcast, that offseason is 958 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 10: a lot more easily easily digested than what we have 959 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 10: in college football. 960 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 5: I think it's a good point, Jonas. 961 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 10: But that being said, when the season rolls around and 962 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 10: we have the games, it feels a lot better, and 963 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 10: it feels a lot more natural, and it feels like 964 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,879 Speaker 10: all is not lost, which is a good thing. But yeah, 965 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 10: the college football posts, I mean, this new committee that's 966 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,919 Speaker 10: going to really enforce things. You know, it's like the 967 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 10: the NCAA is hanging on by this skin. They're like 968 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 10: the Game Ambling Commission in the song Atlantic City. I mean, 969 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 10: they're barely hanging on. And and now they're gonna have 970 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 10: some new police siaka please. I mean these stories, I 971 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 10: mean Lincoln Riley trying to wriggle out of the Notre 972 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 10: Dame ro I mean, these off season stories are pathetic 973 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 10: and they are they are unsavory, and you can't say 974 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 10: that they don't hurt the sport. I'm positive that they 975 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 10: hurt the sport. But when the season starts and we 976 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 10: have that going, that's good. I mean, I remember calling 977 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 10: a game and it was I forget who it was. 978 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 10: Oh it was Washington State Boise State, and it was 979 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 10: a good game. You know, John Mattier versus Ashton Gent. 980 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,720 Speaker 10: I mean, that's a hell of a game last year 981 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 10: for star Power and my play by play guy. Because 982 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 10: play by play guys can't help it. They always they 983 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 10: can't just call the game, you know, they always want 984 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 10: to bring up you know, we look what's going on 985 00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 10: in the Mountain Wars, and you know, and and I 986 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 10: just said, look, I'm glad to be calling a game 987 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 10: where the two teams aren't suing each other. 988 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 2: By the way, I think I was watching that. 989 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 10: It's true, right, like you know, I mean, at least 990 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 10: these two teams don't hate each other. They want to 991 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 10: be in the Pac twelve together in a couple of years. 992 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 10: So I mean, and I do feel like we should 993 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 10: dismiss those stories during the season because the season is 994 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,800 Speaker 10: special and we still have that competition and the revealing 995 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 10: of virtue with young men working together, which is what 996 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 10: we like about college football. But uh, but I take 997 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 10: your point. The off season is exhausting. And it's like 998 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 10: LeVar said, I mean this kid, I mean, this was 999 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 10: a big story. That offensive lineman that flipped. There was 1000 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 10: a big story that some tight end the tight end 1001 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 10: from not and. 1002 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 4: Modern day that's it's a new day and age. 1003 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 10: Man U CLA's greatest on lineman ever is a Joe 1004 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 10: Wow Jo Yeah Ogden who's from way out east, you know, 1005 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 10: Maryland guy, what Saint Altman's prep? 1006 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 5: I believe so, I mean that's that's Uh. 1007 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 10: They've gotten a lot of a lot of UCLA doesn't 1008 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 10: really build the fence in La the way that sc 1009 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 10: needs to. 1010 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 3: But I don't think it's possible for them to do 1011 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 3: it unless they brought a big old brinch truck. 1012 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 4: They can't even well. 1013 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 10: The one time they tried to do it, Carl Drell 1014 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 10: pulled a few d line types out of Crenshaw, big 1015 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:23,839 Speaker 10: kid named Bryce, remember him from Yeah, And Pete Carroll 1016 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 10: got so mad he did that whole gang outreach thing 1017 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 10: on sixty minutes. Remember he's wearing like a leather jacket. 1018 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 10: Next thing, you know, Pete Carroll was like at at 1019 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,479 Speaker 10: Nickerson Gardens and Watts like. 1020 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 5: Hey, what's up? 1021 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 9: Man? 1022 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 4: That's going, let's compete. 1023 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 5: What are you doing? Hey, what's up? 1024 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 2: Compete? 1025 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 5: Blood, Blood, break yourself. It's like, okay, Pete, I get it. 1026 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,840 Speaker 10: You got mad that Carl Drel got one recruit, so 1027 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 10: you bought a buck leather jacket, and now all of 1028 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 10: a sudden you're like cool mode out there. 1029 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 2: Okay, what's up? 1030 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:55,320 Speaker 4: Blood? 1031 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,720 Speaker 12: Get him on X at the old p He is Petros, 1032 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 12: the the homie, Hey, strap brother. 1033 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 5: He's the city right now recruiting some pre. 1034 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 6: He's the coast of the Petrous money Show, which you 1035 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 6: can hear on the blow Towards and five seventy l 1036 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 6: A Sports Fox college football analyst pe, we appreciate it. 1037 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 2: We'll do it again next week. 1038 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 5: Thank you, guys. 1039 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 2: There he is. We are great, uh t Papa. Fox 1040 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 2: Sports guys. 1041 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 4: From US a USC say we are too. Yeah, there 1042 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 4: you go.