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Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, to show that takes

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment

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Speaker 1: and culture. Start with headline news and then journey to

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Speaker 1: deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented

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Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel Swally, that dude, yes, you'll.

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Speaker 2: Turn the speakers up. God, your God. I'm out here

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Speaker 2: in New York City about the crush. The buildings.

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Speaker 1: Need to turn that corrupt song off, off the walls

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Speaker 1: and put on some New York New York because I

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Speaker 1: am back in my second home.

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Speaker 2: Crazy.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's like a reunion for me, a twenty six

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Speaker 1: year reunion. I graduated in ninety seven Columbia University, and

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Speaker 1: now I'm back to a graduation at Columbia University. But

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Speaker 1: this time is for my idy Biddy. It's for my

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Speaker 1: twenty four year old daughter who's graduating what a masters

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Speaker 1: from Columbia in sports management. So looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: her walk across the stage and do what she does.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: And it's crazy because this is a boy's trip. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you, I am on a boy's trip with

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Speaker 1: my ighty biddy, my boy, my seven year old who's

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Speaker 1: in the back right now.

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Speaker 2: You might hear him every now and then.

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Speaker 1: Say something even though he ain't supposed to say something.

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Speaker 1: But that's how life goes. So let's get it in man.

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Speaker 1: Y'all know how we start off every show, Well, what's

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Speaker 1: up with that?

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Speaker 2: Dude?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's pretty obvious, right, that's what's up. See that

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Speaker 1: background right there that ain't downtown, La, You don't see

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Speaker 1: any homeless people there. Well you gotta look a little closer,

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Speaker 1: you know, La, bol Like god Lee, you be seeing billionaire,

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Speaker 1: millionaire homeless person and another homeless person didn't have another billionaire.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy out there. But in New York, Man, the.

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Speaker 1: First thing that hit my son was the same thing

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Speaker 1: that hit me when I first came here. Damn, this

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Speaker 1: city is vertical like he was, just and you could

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Speaker 1: tell because that was the first thing people wore me

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Speaker 1: when I got to New York.

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Speaker 2: A dog. Don't be the one out here.

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Speaker 1: With your neck like this, because let's just say, some

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Speaker 1: people might want to pick pocket. Remember back in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: they used to pick pocket. I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: do that right now. You do a lot worse, But back.

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Speaker 2: Then, it was just like looking at all these buildings,

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Speaker 2: and it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's so crunched in, so pedestrian, la so spread out,

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Speaker 1: so low, got your car, you in your own island.

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Speaker 2: It's just a different world.

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Speaker 1: So it's pretty educational for my son and cultural for

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Speaker 1: him to come out here and just check everything out.

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Speaker 1: So that's been fun. This boy's trip is on steroids, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you last night, don't order room service, especially

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Speaker 1: when you have it eaten all day because you've been

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Speaker 1: on a flight, and you with your little boys, so

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Speaker 1: you got your man bones out.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm about to show this dude out of grub.

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Speaker 1: I order two hundred and twenty five dollars worth of

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Speaker 1: room service. Now I don't know if I ordered that

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Speaker 1: much or this place is just that damn expensive, but

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Speaker 1: the point is I went hard. It was one of

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Speaker 1: them orders that you did with your eyes, not with

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Speaker 1: your stomach. And then I ain't even eat half of it.

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Speaker 1: So my boy, he tore them chicken tenders up. This

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Speaker 1: dude over here tripping. He ain't you to all the

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Speaker 1: lucks living? I guess he over here like daddy man,

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Speaker 1: he's the best chicken tenders ever. I'm to die laughing.

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Speaker 1: Then he takes a shower. He's like, Daddy, the towel

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Speaker 1: drives you off with one white. I was like, we

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Speaker 1: need to change our towels. And oh, that's all I

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Speaker 1: sound like. But all this good is here, man, feeling great,

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Speaker 1: excited for today. Wish her well, man, because the real

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Speaker 1: world is right here in her face and she's ready.

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Speaker 1: All right, ch'all, let's get this show started with our

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Speaker 1: first topic. You know, we're going the NBA playoffs, but

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Speaker 1: in a different light. This is never shut up. We

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna just talk about, oh, they won one O

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Speaker 1: six to one O three. Oh my god, game winning shot.

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Speaker 1: We do that, but we do something different like this.

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Speaker 1: Steve Kirk made a personal plea, no, not about guns

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Speaker 1: this time, but to the NBA about flopping. He wants

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Speaker 1: to flop in the stop. Let's talk through it, all right.

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Speaker 1: So after the Lakers beat the Warriors in Game four, oh,

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Speaker 1: he was in his feelings right now. Obviously they have

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Speaker 1: now got that series of three to two. They win

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Speaker 1: games in LA. They got something. So Steve clave was

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Speaker 1: complaining because of the flops and the gainsmanship that is

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Speaker 1: so he watched the tape and then everybody started to

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Speaker 1: criticize him, saying, oh, you sound like a sore loser,

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and he said, nah, dog, I stand

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Speaker 1: by my statement. He said, Look, let's be real. I think,

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Speaker 1: to me, what I've learned coaching in FIBA, y'all know it,

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Speaker 1: there's a flop rule.

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Speaker 2: If a referee deems a player has.

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Speaker 1: Flopped, they'll call it a technical foul and it's pretty penalizing.

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Speaker 2: And so the flopping has basically been eliminated from the.

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Speaker 1: FIB eight and we have the ability to do the

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Speaker 1: same thing in the NBA if we want. Ah, Steve Kerr,

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Speaker 1: see this is when you know you got your big brain.

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Speaker 1: You are a genius. He said, Oh, no, I'm not complaining.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying somewhere else they do it different, and

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Speaker 1: to me, based on experience, they do it better. Would

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Speaker 1: you think, right, Because that's one thing about people, man,

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Speaker 1: if you want them to change, make sure that they

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Speaker 1: think they're changing because of themselves. It's a lot easier

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Speaker 1: of a process. I learned that through relationships, and I

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Speaker 1: certainly know it through marriage.

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Speaker 2: Do not be the.

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Speaker 1: One who's the author of change because people ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: read that book like, nah, no, not until I feel it,

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Speaker 1: not until I said it, not until I thought it,

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Speaker 1: did I actually do it? So Steve Kurrs thrown it

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Speaker 1: back at us. Let's answer the question. I'm in them

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Speaker 1: comments with y'all, do we really want flopping to go away?

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Speaker 1: Because there's some theater to it, right, And I would say, look,

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Speaker 1: the nugget of.

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Speaker 2: It is you did at least a perception get fouled.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes a foul is like, look you hack me, he

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Speaker 1: gonna blow the whistle.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's like, no, he affected me. Y'all.

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Speaker 1: Ever see it when they shoot the shot and they

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Speaker 1: hit that elbow real gently and then you're like.

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Speaker 2: Is that a foul? And they don't call it.

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Speaker 1: So then the players like, bruh, I would have made

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Speaker 2: So guess what next time he comes anywhere close to

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Speaker 1: Here we go, Wow, Wow, I got aw f Like,

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Speaker 1: all sadd your ankle her because he tapped your elbow?

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Speaker 2: Right, you gotta just sell it so that the referee.

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Speaker 1: Is like, oh, I gotta be more aware of what's

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Speaker 1: going on when he's taking his shot. So flopping comes

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Speaker 1: from a pure place. It comes from a place They're like, yo,

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Speaker 1: you ain't catching at all, and I'm not expecting you

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Speaker 1: to catch it all because you are a human.

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Speaker 2: Being, not a machine as a referee.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta catch more than you catch him too

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Speaker 1: at the same time, especially in critical moments. And we've

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Speaker 1: seen no calls in critical moments. So therefore, flopping obviously

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Speaker 1: is gonna get supported. You're gonna see guys flop more.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerrr smart and saying this, but he also has

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Speaker 1: some evidence for those who are still trying to clown him.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Steve curR, you still sore a loser.

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Speaker 1: He's like, oh, y'all want to see the freak throw

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Speaker 1: discrepancy here, one hundred and three freak throws for the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: fifty one for.

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Speaker 2: The Golden State Warriors.

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Speaker 1: So he like, look, I don't know what y'all out

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Speaker 1: there seeing and doing, but it's not enough. There's no

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Speaker 1: way that the free throw discrepancy should be that wide,

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Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be worth looking at the Lakers. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: are they flopping? And even Lebron had to respond to that,

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Speaker 1: right Lebron, you know, Lebron got some Google alerts on

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Speaker 1: that Twitter that suckers. You say, Lebron and it's somebody

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Speaker 1: he wants to respond to. Somebody with a microphone, somebody

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Speaker 1: with a platform. Oh, Lebron coming back. He ain't allowing that,

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Speaker 1: he ain't KD level, but Lebron will respond. And Lebron

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Speaker 1: was like down twenty years of basketball, never been on

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Speaker 1: a team that coached or flopped, So none of that

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Speaker 1: is associated with the Lakers. What do you guys think

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Speaker 1: y'all want to get rid of flopping? They got rid

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Speaker 1: of flopping? Or overseas? Can we do it over here?

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Speaker 1: You know I had to do this story about Saint

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Speaker 1: John's University. My man, Mike Anderson, their former basketball coach,

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Speaker 1: is now suing them for forty five point six million dollars.

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Speaker 1: At that point six matters. Let's talk through it all right.

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Speaker 1: So the former coach, Mike Anderson, said he was fired

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Speaker 1: with calls in March only only so the school could

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Speaker 1: avoid paying his buyout and use the money to hire

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Speaker 1: Rick Potato.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a headline right now.

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Speaker 1: So eleven point four million was left on his contract

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Speaker 1: and an additional thirty four point two million for punitive damages,

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Speaker 1: basically the mental anguish. Look, you woke me up a

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Speaker 1: the fear of what will I do next? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I lost my job. I don't know what is gonna

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Speaker 1: happen to me and my family. Thirty four point two

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Speaker 1: million dollars please, that's what he's doing for all right? So,

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Speaker 1: according to the termination letter, Anderson was fired for failure

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Speaker 1: to create and support an environment that strongly encourages student

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Speaker 1: athletes who are in the men's basketball program to meet

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Speaker 1: all university academic requirements.

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Speaker 2: Y'all starting to smell some failure.

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Speaker 1: To form your duties and responsibilities in the manner that

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Speaker 1: reflected positively on Saint John's University, in actions that brought

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Speaker 1: serious discredit to the school, and failure to appropriately supervise

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Speaker 1: and communicate with your assistant coaches. Oh oh, did I

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Speaker 1: add that that they hired Rick Patino on March tenth,

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Speaker 1: right around this time, y'all see this, So Anderson coaches

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Speaker 1: like dog y'all tried to offer me a buyout for

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Speaker 1: less than my eleven point four million on my deal

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Speaker 1: before the school accused them of fictitious problems with his

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Speaker 1: program and fired them for casts y'all catching the beats,

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Speaker 1: all right, So they and conversations with Rick Patino, probably quietly,

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Speaker 1: they come to anisty, can we get.

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Speaker 2: A buy out with you? Look, you ain't did nothing wrong.

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Speaker 2: We just won't. We got it.

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Speaker 1: We move on and they ain't gonna tell them why.

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Speaker 1: They got Rick Petito online too, right, So then they're like, can.

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Speaker 2: We move off from you? And he's like for what?

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Speaker 1: And then they're like, ah, we just you know, here's

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Speaker 1: a buyout, will make it easy for you.

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Speaker 2: You're good.

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Speaker 1: He probably obviously balked on that, and then next thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, we gotta fire you, but we're gonna fire

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Speaker 1: you with calls so we can keep this money. Oh

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Speaker 1: insert Rick Patino and that's to switch your roof. Whoa,

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Speaker 1: And they got caught up in it. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: so obviously Saint John's dispute and it's saying that he's

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Speaker 1: a wildly inaccurate claims here. And the only other part

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Speaker 1: that's interesting is they tried to say that it was

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about this.

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Speaker 1: This crazy because y'all know I am a coach, obviously

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Speaker 1: They're gonna double dribble, triple dribble, they're gonna travel all

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do a segment on best Commercials Ever and

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Speaker 1: get sued by all of them because copyrighting. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: be like, thank you. Nobody's been talking about this commercial

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Speaker 1: for twenty years. All right, y'all, man, I got to

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Speaker 1: talk about something that is no laughing matter right now.

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Speaker 1: And y'all know, I'm a father of four and I

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Speaker 1: have three daughters, and this story hits you where it hurts,

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Speaker 1: especially if you're a parent and you know, I just

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Speaker 1: got to salute my parents because they did the best

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Speaker 1: that they could in the environment that I was raised in.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we moved from Compton to off Slosson,

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Speaker 1: which became South Central, and at that time, they just

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Speaker 1: thought that they were going and chasing green pastors, and.

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Speaker 2: They protected me as best as they could.

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Speaker 1: But still there was violence, gangs and the drugs and

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Speaker 1: stuff that was going on that took a lot of

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Speaker 1: my teammates and a lot of my friends' lives. But man,

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Speaker 1: some of the stuff that doesn't get reported are some

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Speaker 1: of the things I'm gonna talk about right now in

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Speaker 1: this story as well.

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Speaker 2: It's not just always violence.

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Speaker 1: It's not always in homicide, it's not always in death.

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Speaker 1: It's in situations like this where there's a voluntary basketball

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Speaker 1: coach who was twenty at a middle school in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: accused of having sex with a twelve year old girl

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Speaker 1: and recording it. Told her he was fifteen. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: get to this story right now. According to reports, he

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Speaker 1: filmed himself having sex with a middle school girl twelve

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Speaker 1: earlier this year.

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Speaker 2: When he was nineteen years old.

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Speaker 1: Okay, already there twelve year old girl back in January,

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Speaker 1: January watched she was waiting to be picked up from

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Speaker 1: cheerleading practices where he met her.

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Speaker 2: He reportedly told.

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Speaker 1: The girl he was fifteen years old, and she told

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Speaker 1: him she was twelve, all right. He then hit the

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Speaker 1: middle school girl on Instagram and Snapchat and told her

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Speaker 1: he liked her. Then, on January tenth, eleventh, he asked

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Speaker 1: a girl to come over to his house. When she

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Speaker 1: got to his home, he continually asked her to do

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Speaker 1: it y'all remember the old term, old phrase yeah, instead

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Speaker 1: of saying sex, do it right? He and the girl

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Speaker 1: had sex, which he recorded on his cell phone.

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Speaker 2: Now, wo this is crazy, and it's crazy already.

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Speaker 1: The video was discovered by another student after the twelve

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Speaker 1: year old girl let the student use her phone. They

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Speaker 1: saw several videos and images of the twelve year old

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Speaker 1: having sex with an adult man. After the phone was returned,

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Speaker 1: they took a screenshot and shared it on Instagram. A

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Speaker 1: few students said it looked like somebody who they knew,

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Speaker 1: and they told a teacher, who then reported it to

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Speaker 1: the police.

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Speaker 2: Search warrant carried out found the video on his phone.

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Speaker 1: So now he's accused of producing child pornography distributing and

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Speaker 1: possessing child pornography I'm sure obviously under underage minor as well,

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Speaker 1: but if convicted, guess what face is up to thirty

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Speaker 1: years in prison for producing child pornography, up to twenty

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Speaker 1: years for distribution, and up to twenty years for possessing it. Now,

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Speaker 1: the statutory rape not listed here, but I'm sure it's

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Speaker 1: a part of that as well. WHOA what do we

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Speaker 1: what do we think of this situation other than the

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Speaker 1: obvious right now?

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Speaker 2: The obvious is not just to learn.

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Speaker 1: From this situation, but to protect you and yours in

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Speaker 1: terms of this potentially happening to you. My parents were

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Speaker 1: really stress in the terms of we never spent the

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Speaker 1: night out with somebody else, like all my friends that

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Speaker 1: have sleep over sleep over sleep over never And there

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Speaker 1: was points where I was like, Yo, this is too much.

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Speaker 1: And you know, your dog cursing your mom and your head,

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Speaker 1: I hate you, you know all that stuff, and I

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Speaker 1: was just thinking, like now, looking back, she was trying

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Speaker 1: to protect me from situations like this. You know the

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Speaker 1: guy who has the wayward uncle, you know, the uncle

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Speaker 1: uh or the father or whoever it may be. My

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Speaker 1: parents were always lirious situations like this and always extra

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Speaker 1: cautious about situations like this.

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't have to happen overnight and you went somewhere.

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Speaker 2: It could happen when.

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Speaker 1: You just give your kids a little too much bandwidth,

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Speaker 1: too much time outside of your supervision or knowledge. Right,

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Speaker 1: if they're a practice for two hours, I like to

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Speaker 1: be at the practice, tell you truth, even if I'm

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Speaker 1: not coaching, I like to be there. But now everybody

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Speaker 1: can do that, totally get it. But in those situations

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Speaker 1: you got to really monitor it, because a two hour

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Speaker 1: practice should be two hours. Commute time, fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes, okay,

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Speaker 1: two and a half hours, be back here, homie, simple

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Speaker 1: as that, and let's check in. And then when you're

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Speaker 1: going around the neighborhood and where you're going four or

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Speaker 1: five six hours. Now we grew up, it kind of

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Speaker 1: was like that, and it wasn't like that for me,

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Speaker 1: but it was like that for everybody, And it seemed

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Speaker 1: like everybody was just like gone.

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Speaker 2: I was like, damn, your parents ain't tripping. And then

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Speaker 2: you know, when you were a kid and your parents

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Speaker 2: ain't tripping, you sitting there, sitting.

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Speaker 1: There like I got the bad parent, when in reality, no,

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Speaker 1: you got the good parent. Maybe their parents not bad,

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Speaker 1: but they ain't doing necessarily all the checking in that

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Speaker 1: they should be doing. And in this situation, look a

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Speaker 1: twelve year old and you don't know the circumstances, and

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Speaker 1: you can't even say that it was because of the parents'

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Speaker 1: neglect or anything. But the point of this is, who

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Speaker 1: are your kids around? Every time I check on how

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Speaker 1: to raise a kid? I read books, I read pamphlets,

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Speaker 1: I get the emails.

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Speaker 2: We all get it.

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Speaker 1: Something that's trying to give you some guidance in terms

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Speaker 1: of being a parent. They always say who do your

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Speaker 1: kids hang around? And they always say check in on

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Speaker 1: your kids, check in on who they know. It's amazing

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Speaker 1: you will buy your child a phone and then your

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Speaker 1: child will lock you out the phone like it you're.

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Speaker 2: Twelve years old.

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Speaker 1: Whatever's on that phone should be above board enough where

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Speaker 1: I can't check on it. Don't mean I am don't

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Speaker 1: mean I'm stepping into your world all like that. But

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Speaker 1: if you got to hide your phone, you gotta hide

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. What you talking about? What you up

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Speaker 1: to at twelve? At fifteen? If you and my house, look,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some of my rules, right and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna respect those rules. It's a tough situation, man, because

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Speaker 1: where we're really talking about is the management of that

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Speaker 1: line of giving them their space to grow to mature privacy.

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Speaker 1: And then also, hey, I got to supervise you. And

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Speaker 1: sometimes that comes down in a strict way, right, comes

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Speaker 1: down with a heavy hand, and then the kid takes

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Speaker 1: it the wrong way nine times out of ten because

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Speaker 1: they're looking around like nobody else is tripping and you

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Speaker 1: the only one tripping.

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Speaker 2: Just like how we.

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Speaker 1: Grew up, and I know that the teachers that we

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Speaker 1: hated all of a sudden become the ones you love

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Speaker 1: when you get older.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: The ones you hated that held you accountable, that didn't

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Speaker 1: give you an easy A or easy B, the ones

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Speaker 1: that made you work. You hated them in that moment, right,

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Speaker 1: And then you look back, You're like, dann it, that

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Speaker 1: was love right there, because that taught me to be

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Speaker 1: more responsible in situations like this.

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Speaker 2: A predator out there?

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Speaker 1: You know, if true a predator out there, but got

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Speaker 1: video and all this stuff so I can lead it

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Speaker 1: allegedly out of this one. And it seems like if

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Speaker 1: this guy was a predator to a twelve year old,

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Speaker 1: was it his first time. Seriously, it's gonna be his

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Speaker 1: last time, but was it his first time? And then,

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Speaker 1: more importantly, what can you do to make sure you're.

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Speaker 2: Not the victim? Right?

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Speaker 1: It's okay like letting kids hate you, be mad at you,

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Speaker 1: be a parent, Stop trying to be the homie, stop

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Speaker 1: trying to be the friend by the phone, and then

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Speaker 1: scared to even ask them what they're doing on the phone.

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Speaker 1: Come on, y'all, we got to stop situations like this

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Speaker 1: at least put them to a halt because this is unreal.

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Speaker 1: Hit me in the heart right here on this one,

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Speaker 1: tough sled right there. I couldn't even get into it

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Speaker 1: like I wanted to, because yay, y'all know WHOA wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be seeing much of Wiley if that happened to Wiley.

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Speaker 2: All right, y'all, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Know hard we end every show with a wiy insome

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Speaker 1: ooh man, Success is getting what you want. Happiness is

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Speaker 1: wanting what you get. I think we all heard this

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Speaker 1: one before, and if not, ooh wait, you in for

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Speaker 1: it right now, because man, how many times have you

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Speaker 1: just sat there and had that goal, had that dream

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Speaker 1: of getting that thing right, and then you accomplish it,

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Speaker 1: and nine times out of ten you rewrite and do

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Speaker 1: another one right. You envisioned another goal, another thing to

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Speaker 1: go and achieve right, and that success. But then what

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Speaker 1: makes you feel at peace and happy and just fulfilled

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Speaker 1: It is just wanting what you got right, instead of

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Speaker 1: always imagining it more or imagining what you don't have.

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Speaker 2: That's even worse. You know, just sitting there, you're never.

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Speaker 1: Just feeling happy because you're always chasing or you're always

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Speaker 1: thinking about somebody else's and you can't be in that zone.

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Speaker 2: You got to be in the zone that's locked in

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 1: And I've been successful, I will humbly say I've had

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Speaker 1: some success, and then some of those things really I

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Speaker 1: wasn't that happy about, just because the pursuit was so damning,

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Speaker 1: it was so difficult.

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Speaker 2: When I got there, I didn't enjoy it because I

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Speaker 2: wanted more.

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Speaker 1: Happiness is wanting what you get, and if you want more,

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Speaker 1: you're not happy with what you got. But I take

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Speaker 1: my son right now, go buy him a bay Blade,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, yay, success, he got him a bay Blade,

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Speaker 1: but he ain't happy if he's sitting there immediately, is

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Speaker 1: I them that baby lady like, oh daddy, look at

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Speaker 1: that one. I want that one too, Bro, Be happy

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Speaker 1: with what you got, right, simple as that. It's a

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Speaker 1: small lesson that can mean a lot to all of us.

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Speaker 1: So success is getting, which won't. Happiness is wanting.

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Speaker 2: What you get, All right, y'all, that'll do it.

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Speaker 1: For More to It, check the show notes for all

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Speaker 1: the information on our topics today today. Want to keep

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Speaker 1: the conversation go on, Let's talk to find me on

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Speaker 1: all socials at Marcel's Wiley. More Too is a production

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Speaker 1: of Dan Patrick Production That Dude Entertainment and Workhouse Media.

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Speaker 1: and Nick Panela. Thanks for all the love, ratings, and

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Speaker 1: it coming because there's more coming from More to It.

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Speaker 1: Talk to y'all hell a soon.