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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 2: right now. Got a lot to talk about, generally what

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Speaker 2: happens on Monday right the avalanche of news from over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. We will make sense of it all for you.

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Speaker 2: We will dive into the latest. We'll take some of

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Speaker 2: your calls as well. Lines are open eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: Clayandbuck dot com. We're going to put a poll up

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Speaker 2: with regard to the Iowa caucuses, which are seven days away.

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Speaker 2: It feels like it took forever, but now it is here.

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Speaker 2: Voting is imminent. It will be upon us shortly. In

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Speaker 2: this primary, we shall discuss all that. We've also got

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Speaker 2: the Secretary of Defense disappearing to the hospital and even

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Speaker 2: to the ICU. This is Lloyd Austin of the Obama

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Speaker 2: regime disappearing for a few days. People are saying what's

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Speaker 2: going on there? Plus Democrats continuing to have real problems

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Speaker 2: at the border. Based on the polling, the American people

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Speaker 2: are waking up to what a disaster the US Mexico

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Speaker 2: border actually is Nancy Pelosi aoc others way in no

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Speaker 2: surprise to what they say. And if we have time,

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Speaker 2: we may even get into the latest Clay on the

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Speaker 2: plagiarism wars billionaire Bill Ackman, female four hundred meter distance runner.

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Speaker 2: This came up over the weekend, not us, but this

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Speaker 2: happened somewhere else. It went viral. We will discuss whether

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Speaker 2: we think we could get up out of our radio

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Speaker 2: chairs and win victory on that one. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in a little but Clay the Biden speech, I

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Speaker 2: just want to start with this a little bit because

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Speaker 2: I think in a sense it's the official opening of

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Speaker 2: everything we're going to be hearing from Joe Biden and

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Speaker 2: the well from the campaign, really the Biden campaign going forward,

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Speaker 2: which is that January sixth was the worst thing ever.

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Speaker 2: This was the guy who was supposed to unite the country.

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Speaker 2: He's done everything other than that. Here he is bragging

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Speaker 2: about j six protesters being sentenced to eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty years in prison.

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Speaker 3: One desperate act available to him the violence of January

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Speaker 3: the sixth. Since that day, more than one thy two

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Speaker 3: hundred people have been charged for the assault in the

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Speaker 3: Capitol Leave nine hundred of them have been convicted.

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Speaker 2: Or pled guilty.

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Speaker 3: Collectively, to date, they have been sentenced to more than

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and forty years in prison. What's Trump done?

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Speaker 3: Instead of calling m criminals, He's called these ex these

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Speaker 3: insurrectionist patriots. They're patriots, and he promised to pardon them

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Speaker 3: if he returns to office.

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Speaker 2: Clay, the centerpiece of Biden's campaign is it's all over

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Speaker 2: if the other guy wins. I think this has landed

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Speaker 2: so flat already, Buck, and I believe later today Biden

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Speaker 2: is going to be in Charleston trying to rip at

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Speaker 2: the scabs of American race relations by referencing I believe

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Speaker 2: it was a two thy fifteen Dylan Ruth. I hesitate

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Speaker 2: to mention the guy's name. I probably shouldn't, but this

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Speaker 2: was so long ago. I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 2: you are not going to even remember all the particulars.

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Speaker 2: And this is all he's got, Buck is jan six

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Speaker 2: threats to democracy and abortion. That's his entire campaign. That

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Speaker 2: is all Joe Biden can run on. And I think

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Speaker 2: what they're recognizing is Trump's hard to pin down on abortion.

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Speaker 2: Compared to a lot of other people out there, Trump

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Speaker 2: has not some died in the wool culture warrior who's

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Speaker 2: been a pro life battleground guy for decades. Far from it, actually,

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Speaker 2: And I think that registers with the American public, which

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Speaker 2: isn't going to believe, oh my goodness, Trump is going

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Speaker 2: to have an abortion in California or New York, which

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Speaker 2: they're going to try to sell as some danger that's

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Speaker 2: out there or anywhere else in the country. And the

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Speaker 2: Jan six stuff. I paid attention to how this was

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Speaker 2: covered because I was genuinely curious. The New York Times

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Speaker 2: put it on page twelve. This is a big signature

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Speaker 2: speech that Joe Biden wanted to give. And yes, I'm

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Speaker 2: an old man and I still, as you guys all know,

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Speaker 2: read the newspaper in print form. But that's a big

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Speaker 2: consider to be worthy of a story, which oftentimes is

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Speaker 2: Biden camp is in such nervousness one week out from

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Speaker 2: Iowa because the numbers aren't changing Buck, and you mentioned

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Speaker 2: I think off air the CBS poll, what's going on

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Speaker 2: but they're still at twenty year highs. I think Biden,

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Speaker 2: this point in his first term. You mentioned that CBS poll,

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Speaker 2: it's seventy five percent of Americans see the situation at

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Speaker 2: that sentiment from previous polls asking the same kind of questions.

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Speaker 2: So there's obviously a major problem there. I'm guessing that

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Speaker 2: the MSNBC host who started crying talking about January sixth,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that that's a widely shared sentiment at

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Speaker 2: this point, as Biden gives his speech and commemorates this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've really tried to turn this into say,

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Speaker 2: it's not a holiday, it's like a national day of shame,

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Speaker 2: and they keep this all going and the problem with that.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of problems with it, but one of

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Speaker 2: them is, how do you claim to be the uniting,

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Speaker 2: healing presidency when you celebrate My opponents are awful white supremacists.

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Speaker 2: You try to overthrow the government, and if they win

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Speaker 2: this time, they're going to like destroy the country. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, how do you square that one?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense, I think even for people

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Speaker 2: you and I were somewhat surprised that Jan six had

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Speaker 2: got to go vote for a Democrat because otherwise this

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Speaker 2: might be the last election. This is important. But this

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Speaker 2: is important though, I think Clay it it resonated with

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Speaker 2: mostly college educated white voters that was who they were

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Speaker 2: So here's what's difference to me potentially as we look

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Speaker 2: So it's hard to argue that you are a pro

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Speaker 2: other words, I think that Democrats may well have overreached

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Speaker 2: who are reasonable but not paying attention to politics would say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jan six is bad. We shouldn't have had anybody rioting,

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Speaker 2: we shouldn't have had anybody storming the capitol. There should

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Speaker 2: be consequences for riots. But there's a difference between saying

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Speaker 2: of that, no one should be able to vote for

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Speaker 2: Trump and he should go to prison for the rest

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Speaker 2: of his life. Well, it would be like saying, no

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Speaker 2: one can vote Democrat because Biden voters burned down a

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Speaker 2: for the destruction of America. Well, I probably should just

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Speaker 2: stop the sentence there. But voting Democrat is a vote

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Speaker 2: for the destruction of America because Antifa lunatics, we're all leftists,

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Speaker 2: We're all you know, anti Trump tried to burn down

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Speaker 2: their stated intent. They wanted to blind people. You know,

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Speaker 2: you can do this all day long. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: fact of the matter is, not only have they punished the

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Speaker 2: January sixth people excessively compared to what other offenses, you know,

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Speaker 2: similar offenses, especially nonviolent offenses, would get, and excessively I

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Speaker 2: think is an understatement. I mean viciously. It is like

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Speaker 2: a DC goulag. Beyond that, Clay, I remember it very well.

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't think you had it, you know,

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Speaker 2: and you certainly were seeing it on TV. The Democrats

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Speaker 2: rioted all summer and terrified people, and there was no

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Speaker 2: you know you threw rocks at federal officers, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: we're gonna lock you up for assault on a federal officer.

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Speaker 2: You threw bottles of urn at DC Metro police, We're

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Speaker 2: So there's also there's the disparity of the severity against

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Speaker 2: are still rightly ticked off about that. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 2: think it goes to you have the right to defend

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Speaker 2: a nonviolent protest, who was that audience? That's creepy, that's scary.

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Speaker 2: That's actually what a form of totalitarianism would sound like, Hey,

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Speaker 2: hundreds of years. But then when you combine that with

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Speaker 2: it's harder to create this illusion of December January sixth

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Speaker 2: as a threat to democracy when you have gone beyond

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Speaker 2: the pale in your response. I think that's the general

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Speaker 2: independent voters perspective. And you know, we've been saying what

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Speaker 2: we think the Biden strategy is going to be here.

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Speaker 2: I think it's worth noting that you have Democrats strategists

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Speaker 2: Paul Begala, who's you know, been in the game a

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Speaker 2: long time, a long time Clinton loyalist. Here he is

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Speaker 2: saying what he thinks Biden's strategy should be. This has

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Speaker 4: President Biden needs to listen. He needs to ramp up

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Speaker 4: the attacks he did yesterday. He needs to stop running

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Speaker 4: ads that say I did a great job and start

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Speaker 4: running ads saying this guy is a threat democracy, to

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Speaker 4: your abortion rights, to your social security.

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Speaker 2: Everything has to be Trump everything.

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Speaker 4: I have a seven step plan for Biden's reelection. And

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Speaker 4: you can memorize him because I did him in aphabetical order.

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Speaker 4: Attack attack, attack, attack, attack, attack.

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Speaker 2: Now, not the most clever way of putting it, but

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Speaker 2: that is I think what Biden's gonna have to do.

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Speaker 2: So can I just be clear? So quote Republican Liz Cheney,

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Speaker 2: sounds nerdy when you were describing even nerds were like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that sounds pretty nerdy. I know. The nerds were like, Buck,

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Speaker 2: don't say this stuff out loud, keep this, keep this quiet,

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Speaker 2: keep this deer a lot. And then a lot of

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Speaker 2: other guys are like, oh, I got to write that down.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know the extended version of Lord of the

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Speaker 2: Rings was out right now. Pretty awesome because there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of medieval hand to hand combat. However, when Liz

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Speaker 2: Cheney says something like this, it's absurd, but it also

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Speaker 2: goes I brought up the book thing. I should know

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Speaker 2: because Clay and I were talking about how Liz Cheney

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Speaker 2: wrote a book and there were people who bought the book.

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Speaker 2: And my theory on this is you buy a Liz

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Speaker 2: Cheney book not because you're going to read it, but

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Speaker 2: because it's something you can put on your shelf or

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Speaker 2: on the coffee table that tells everybody immediately you are

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Speaker 2: hashtag resistance, you are hashtag never Trump. It tells what

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Speaker 2: your politics are. So it's effectively a bumper sticker that

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Speaker 2: you pay thirty dollars for. Yeah, you know that, Mary?

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Speaker 2: Was it Mary Trump who wrote like the Trump Family

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Speaker 2: tell all scandalous biography or I don't even know what

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Speaker 2: the It's not even a biography, I don't think, because

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Speaker 2: I think get focused on the whole family to some extent.

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Speaker 2: It's sold like a million copies, and I can't imagine

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Speaker 2: a million copies of a book is on hers impossible.

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Speaker 2: It's very hard to do that these days. Yeah, So

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Speaker 2: the only thing I can think is that you're right

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Speaker 2: that this was a bumper sticker book that people bought

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Speaker 2: to show their pollegiate political allegiances by just putting it

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Speaker 2: out there, because I can't I can't imagine there. I mean,

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Speaker 2: look at the results. I mean, who who is Liz

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Speaker 2: Cheney's you know, sort of base audience. Now, I think

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Speaker 2: you're right. I think it's just people who hate Trump.

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Speaker 2: And I can't imagine how many people are actually reading

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Speaker 2: her book, because otherwise she sort of faded into obsolescence. Right,

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Speaker 2: you were right, we predicted this, and I still wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be shocked if she ran as a third party candidate,

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Speaker 2: if she could get on the ballot in a few

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Speaker 2: states to try to spoil Trump in the event he's

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Speaker 2: the nominee, or DeSantis if he were the nominee, because

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Speaker 2: she basically is like all these anti Trump guys who

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Speaker 2: immediately once they raised the millions of dollars from Democrats,

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Speaker 2: what's the Lincoln Project? And all these people it's not

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Speaker 2: just Trump like, they're never this is the pack. It

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Speaker 2: always it always turns into, you know, a strange newfound

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Speaker 2: respect for this former Republican who hates Trump from the

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Speaker 2: New York Times and MSNBC. Uh and and eventually they

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Speaker 2: just become Democrats. I mean, this is the phenomenon that

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Speaker 2: you see playing out over and over again. And you

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Speaker 2: see it by the fact that they have to feed

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Speaker 2: more to the audience than just their anti Trump hatred.

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Speaker 2: So they start pulling other Republicans and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I hate Vivek too, and I hate the Sentis, and

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Speaker 2: you know, they go down the list. So that's not

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Speaker 2: a surprise. We mentioned this. I did just want to

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Speaker 2: play it. And this is MSNBC's Jonathan cape Hart talking

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Speaker 2: about January sixth and emoting this is cut six. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna try to get through this.

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Speaker 6: Oh my thank you for what you did three years ago. Today,

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Speaker 6: please tell me your thoughts on this third anniversary.

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Speaker 2: We are still in the midst of the same fight

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Speaker 2: that began on January sixth. The other thing about all

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Speaker 2: this play. We have Liz Cheney talking about the medieval

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Speaker 2: hand to hand combat, and you have Jonathan k Part

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Speaker 2: crying as he talks. I don't he wasn't there, but

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Speaker 2: crying as he even talks about this thing because it's

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Speaker 2: so emotionally painful for him. Where were all these individuals

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Speaker 2: when there were marauding gangs destroying everything on my every

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Speaker 2: storefront on my street and looting them all of them

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Speaker 2: Biden voters, all in the name of the Racial Equality

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Speaker 2: and Social Justice Movement of BLM, which is just a

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Speaker 2: Democrat mobilization entity, that's all it is. Like, where are

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Speaker 2: all these people when they were punching police officers and

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Speaker 2: gathering outside of the White House when Donald Trump was

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Speaker 2: president and they tried to burn down an ancient and

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Speaker 2: historical church right next to the White House. Where were they?

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering where these people are so upset? Here

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Speaker 2: is a prediction you can flag this one. If Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump wins in November of twenty twenty four, right ten

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Speaker 2: months or so from now, everything that happens after that

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Speaker 2: election is going to make January sixth look like a picnic.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is going to be buildings burning, oral

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Speaker 2: votes for Donald Trump. It's just a prediction flag it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe nobody will show up at all.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there won't be a single building that burns, Maybe

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Speaker 2: there won't be a single riot. I would be stunned.

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Speaker 2: If Trump wins. There will be I think massive riots

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Speaker 2: all over the country, and everybody who's been trying to

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Speaker 2: talk about January sixth as a unique threat to America

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Speaker 2: will be thrust once again buck into this question. I

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Speaker 2: think it'd be way harder for them. I do because

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Speaker 2: they overlook the six months of burning America that we

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Speaker 2: had in twenty twenty because it's convenient to them and

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Speaker 2: people have short memories. But after the way they have

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Speaker 2: built up January sixth, I've said this before. I think

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Speaker 2: if Trump had narrowly won in twenty twenty, I think

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Speaker 2: Democrats would have stormed the Capitol. Do you think they

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Speaker 2: would have just set back and said, oh, Trump's the

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Speaker 2: duly elected president again. No, I think they would have

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Speaker 2: been out of their minds. There was at least as much,

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Speaker 2: if not more, anti democratic sentiment in twenty sixteen when

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Speaker 2: Trump won. I think in twenty four it will be

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Speaker 2: just as bad, if not far worse than twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay, Travis bo Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. Buck. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: mention this before we finished the first hour because I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure how many people are paying attention to it.

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Speaker 2: We know that the border is a mess, we know

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Speaker 2: that we've got war in the Middle East, and also

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Speaker 2: in Europe, crime is surging, Inflation not ever going to

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Speaker 2: come back down, cost an insane amount to go out.

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Speaker 2: Things don't cost what they should, wages have not kept

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Speaker 2: up with inflation. All those things are challenges for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: But the thing that he sold that I think maybe

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Speaker 2: is the most untrue of all of his pitches in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty was that the adults would be back in charge,

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Speaker 2: that there would be a return to basic normalcy, that

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Speaker 2: there wouldn't be a lot of drama in his White House.

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Speaker 2: Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin went in for what was described

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Speaker 2: as a not very serious procedure. I haven't seen, maybe

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Speaker 2: you have buck an explanation of what his medical treatment was.

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Speaker 2: He ended up in intensive care, and no one bothered

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Speaker 2: to tell anyone in the Biden administration. His number two

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Speaker 2: wasn't aware that her superior was in intensive care. She

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Speaker 2: was on vacation in Puerto Rico. There were multiple days

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Speaker 2: where Joe Biden had no idea that his Defense secretary

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Speaker 2: was in intensive care. Now, fortunately it doesn't appear that

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Speaker 2: there was any major issue that I guess had to

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Speaker 2: be rectified, even though again, we know what's going on

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Speaker 2: in Israel, we know what's going on in your buck.

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Speaker 2: When you hear this as somebody who worked on the periphery,

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Speaker 2: certainly of of of the Defense Department. Were you blown

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Speaker 2: in intensive care and no one knew. Well, it just

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Speaker 2: goes to this isn't the a team that's running the

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Speaker 2: Biden upper echelon of government. I mean that the people

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Speaker 2: that are involved here you brought it up there, they're

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Speaker 2: not the adults that we were promised so to speak. Uh,

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Speaker 2: they were not the people who and they aren't people

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Speaker 2: who instill confidence. I mean I have it from people

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Speaker 2: federal government, State Department, Defense Department, that the Secretary of

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Speaker 2: State Lincoln is just it's just a clown, just an

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Speaker 2: absolute milk toast clown. This guy is, uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: inept is a total sort of company man, does whatever

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Speaker 2: he's told. And I'll tell you, I had never heard

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Speaker 2: particularly outstanding things about Secretary of Defense Austin before they

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Speaker 2: elevated him to be Secretary of Defense. And there's a

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Speaker 2: of bureaucratic you know, bureaucratic deals being struck at agencies

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Speaker 2: where you really actually just want extreme competence. You want

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Speaker 2: extreme accountability, which is necessary for extreme competence. And you

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Speaker 2: don't have that at the Deal the Underbiden, and you

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Speaker 2: don't have it at State Underbiden, and you don't have

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Speaker 2: it at these places. Now is there something else that

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Speaker 2: was going on here? You know? They By the way,

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Speaker 2: this is also the Secretary of Defense who outside wears

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Speaker 2: a face mask and a fatal ideal. That's what I

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Speaker 2: what is that? I mean, preposterous on every level. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, doesn't make no one who does

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Speaker 2: that looks like they have a good command of facts,

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Speaker 2: data and reality. So I am unimpressed with his judgment

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Speaker 2: just based on that. But even beyond that, this is

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Speaker 2: so easy to get right, Clay, Why would they get

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Speaker 2: it wrong? Is it just because they're that dumb as

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Speaker 2: or something else going on? And it makes you wonder

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Speaker 2: what else would they cover up? And what else is

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Speaker 2: going on that they have no idea about? And how

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Speaker 2: little do they respect the President of the United States

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Speaker 2: if they didn't even bother to tell them. But don't

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Speaker 2: worry Biden's stamility. They're very upfront about that slay.

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth