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Speaker 1: part one of my interview with Governor Larry Hogan, the

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Speaker 1: us to contain China? Can he say that? And how

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Speaker 1: does he draw that contrast? Well? I listened very closely

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Speaker 1: but he knows what he's He's what he's saying makes

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Speaker 1: plan for China. No one stood stood up and called

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Speaker 1: China for what they're doing and have been doing, not

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Speaker 1: for a year or four years or eight years, but

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Speaker 1: gonna go to you know, to economic war if necessary.

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Speaker 1: but as taking uh, the lunch a bucket away from

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Speaker 1: people all across the world. And if you think that

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Speaker 1: just politicizing and politicking China is gonna be an answer

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Speaker 1: to what is coming at us, Because I think the

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Speaker 1: long term threat to him America is not COVID nineteen,

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Speaker 1: it's the Republic of China. It is coming from a

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Speaker 1: So I would love to have the debate about China

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Speaker 1: with see the debate rather between Joe Biden and the

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Speaker 1: President on that. But to your first question, uh, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: to try to point out the obvious COVID nineteen is

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Speaker 1: the issue attack that you can take on everything else,

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Speaker 1: including China. You avoid that nothing else matters, which is

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Speaker 1: why he said, I need we need him to be

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Speaker 1: more general, patent less political counterpuncher. Uh, go back to

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Speaker 1: got too contentious. Go back. People need you to go

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Speaker 1: back to putting Americans back on the front line. Treat

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Speaker 1: your nurses as your lieutenants, your doctors as your majors,

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Speaker 1: a daily diet of reports, talk about the advantage and

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Speaker 1: the challenges. Don't sugarcoat coat things. Be more hopeful and

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Speaker 1: less into hype. And I think you can regain the

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Speaker 1: high ground on the only issue that matters. And Frankly,

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Speaker 1: and I'll leave it at this. Frankly, we're hearing nothing

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Speaker 1: need more of something other than I'm not him. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, I'm going to continue to hide out

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Speaker 1: hope that I don't have to actually show my stripes.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what the Yeah, Adam Gimmons on the line.

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Speaker 1: He's a Republican strategist and the media strategist. He's joining

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Speaker 1: us as well as Joel Rubin, who is a Democratic

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Speaker 1: strategist and previously worked in the Obama State's Department as

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Speaker 1: to response to this, and and forgetting about foreign policy

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Speaker 1: for a second, and we've got like sixty seconds, but

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Speaker 1: and the Biden campaign has said, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden? Do you get what I'm getting out? I mean,

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Speaker 1: from a strategic standpoint, Well, it's pretty clear the President

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Speaker 1: he is incapable of protecting Americans health, and that he

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Speaker 1: So what Adam pointed out is right. We need someone

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Speaker 1: think that's for Vice President Biden. He has a track

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Speaker 1: record of dealing with crises effectively, the A Bowler crisis

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Speaker 1: where he led the charts to rebuild, and President Trump

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Speaker 1: think that's really what the differences and Vice President Biden's

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Speaker 1: contrast is very advantageous to all Right, both of you guys,

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Speaker 1: stay put because we have more to talk about. I'm

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Speaker 1: We talked to your politics, China, domestic and what's you

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Speaker 1: get my dad for his birthday? Keep it right here

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Speaker 1: on Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin

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Speaker 1: You're ready, Senators Ted Cruz Marco Rubio are banned from China.

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Speaker 1: The Communist Party in China. They put out a statement

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Speaker 1: and they said, nope, we don't want them. They don't

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Speaker 1: like the comments that have been coming out of those

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Speaker 1: two senators mouth. Something tells me that Senator Crews and

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Speaker 1: Senator Rubio aren't really gonna care. But you know, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: We'll bring you the latest on that as it develops.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kevin's a really chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television

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Speaker 1: and for Bloomberg Radio. I've got two all stars. We

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Speaker 1: gotta we got two great all stars. Jove Reuben, Democratic

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Speaker 1: strategists and former Deputy Assistant Secretary for Legislative Affairs at

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Speaker 1: the State Department during the Obama administration. And Adam Goodman,

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Speaker 1: d C. Adam, I want to ask you, do you

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Speaker 1: hear about the Redskins? So this is a local story.

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Speaker 1: This is a local story for us. I want to

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Speaker 1: pull up I want to pull up the statement. Here

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Speaker 1: it is okay, here it is on July three. This

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Speaker 1: is a statement from the Washington Redskins on July three.

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Speaker 1: We announced the commencement of a thorough review of the

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Speaker 1: team's name. That review has begun in earnest As part

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Speaker 1: of this process, we want to keep our sponsors, fans,

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Speaker 1: Today we are announcing we will be retiring the Redskins

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Speaker 1: name and logo upon completion of this review. Dan Snyder

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Speaker 1: and Coach Rivera are working closely to develop a new

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Speaker 1: name and design approach that will enhance the standing of

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Speaker 1: our proud, tradition, rich franchise and inspire our sponsors fans

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Speaker 1: of community for the next hundred years. Okay, Adam, given,

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Speaker 1: here's the first thing that I say, And you know this.

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Speaker 1: You advise sports teams, You're an insider. You know you know.

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Speaker 1: But correct me if I'm wrong. There's there's a phrase

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Speaker 1: that is uttered twice in this statement, sponsors fans and community.

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Speaker 1: Sponsors fans of community. And I'm sure whoever wrote this

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Speaker 1: wasn't thinking clearly. But they put sponsors first. Shouldn't they

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Speaker 1: be thinking of the community first? And maybe if they

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Speaker 1: themselves into this mess to beginning with. All Right, I'm

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Speaker 1: really soapboxes done, go ahead. Um, of course, I mean, uh,

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Speaker 1: what we hope for in terms of getting back to

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Speaker 1: some degree of normalcy, and right now, of course, a

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Speaker 1: lot of the intention is on whether or not UH

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Speaker 1: schools are gonna be able to reopen successfully in the fall.

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Speaker 1: We I think we really want sports to come back

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Speaker 1: and be somewhat normal again. And UH, in terms of

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Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins, first of all, I want to applaud uh,

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Speaker 1: problem with that is they don't win a lot of

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Speaker 1: games right now and then discarded very quickly. Um, but

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Speaker 1: I like the way they're going at it, and and

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Speaker 1: the Rooney Rule and dealing with issues of racial justice

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Speaker 1: so now before I do what's on your radar, I

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Speaker 1: they're going to have Black lives matter and support for

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Speaker 1: the remainder of the season to be played out. But

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Speaker 1: the NBA and in terms of Black Lives matter. I'm

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Speaker 1: a soccer fan, and by the way, I have to say, Joel,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, but I am a Rabbit Rabbit Ravens fan.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna have real issues. And you know, there

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Speaker 1: figured it out. We've got a Raven stand, a Steeler

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Speaker 1: All right, we've got a couple of minutes left. Very quickly, Joel,

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Speaker 1: what's on your radar. Well, I'm gonna tell you something.

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Speaker 1: It makes me very sad. But it's the return of

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Speaker 1: anti Semitism, and it's just cropping up everywhere. And it's

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Speaker 1: cropping up. We see it on the left, we see

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Speaker 1: that we need to get out of our politics, but

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Speaker 1: pretty significant. That's an important one. And and and there's

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Speaker 1: especially about how big tech companies should have should you know,

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Speaker 1: All right, we've got a minute last, Facebook and others

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Speaker 1: they are really on point on this. They've got they've

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Speaker 1: got to rein this in. All right, we gotta Adam,

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Speaker 1: we got a minute left. What's on your radar? Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I want to applaud Off for what

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Speaker 1: he said. He's absolutely right. Rise of Sandy sammit system

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Speaker 1: stocked by all. My radar screen is next week's numbers.

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Speaker 1: Frankly out of California and Florida. We saw the California

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Speaker 1: seeing record spikes. What we need in this country right

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Speaker 1: now is we need hope, we need something to hold

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Speaker 1: on too. And I'm hoping that the COVID curve will

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Speaker 1: a great note to end it on, Joel Ruben, Adam Goodman,

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Speaker 1: thank you. But I'm gonna add to that. We need hope,

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Speaker 1: we need heart, and we need hustle. My dad would

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Speaker 1: always tell me hustle, and that's what we need in

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Speaker 1: order to have not just an economic comeback, but to

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Speaker 1: comeback of all sorts. I'm Kevin Sile, chief Washington correspondent

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