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Because 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.679 come on, everybody, wants to be an offensive lineman, right, 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:27.880 I mean who doesn't want to be an offensive lineman? 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.759 Yeah, well you know what, certainly not Pat Elflined, because 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.920 I can tell you, PAULI right now, he reminds me 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.880 so much just looking at him of Jean Jean the 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:39.360 coke machine, Gene Chilton. Right, go ahead and google that one, 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.399 PAULI remember the name. Not exactly sure what the comparison is. 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:47.280 Two big dudes who played center, I mean thick guys 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.440 who played center. Very interesting. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:51.760 Well, I need to get personally, I need to get 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.600 to the bottom of the whole cram the ball, vertical 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.480 mantra and otto. I love that, Jonathan Gannon. So we 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:00.440 got to ask the guy who's gonna be apping the 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.800 ball and who loves to come off the ball like 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.840 all offensive linemen do. So that is straight ahead on 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.760 this edition of the Big Red Rage. Okay, here's the thing. Well, 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:13.440 the last padded practice leading into this preseason opener against 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:18.000 Denver Friday night at home, Gramma Calvc. When I was 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.880 a little kid, she'd be making the sauce in the kitchen. Right. 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:21.920 Okay, Well, I used. 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:22.959 To ask her, Graham, how do you know when the 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.600 spaghetti sauce is ready. Yeah, you just know, you just 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.440 know young and you know you just when you were 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.280 at that last padded practice and we had three mini 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:36.840 skirmishes that almost led to three brawls. Yeah, you just 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.720 knew the time is right to finally hit someone in 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:41.600 another uniform. 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.240 Yeah. Absolutely, Paully. I don't know about you right now, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.920 but I am so jacked up for tomorrow night and 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.839 what might happen tomorrow night, not not particularly who's going 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.400 to play Poulli's. Curiously, I know there's a lot of 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.880 people out there that really care for a lot of 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.800 that stuff. For me, it's nothing to do with the 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.920 who it the how it is? Literally, what kind of 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.480 schemes are you going to run? Right? What kind of 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.359 personnel groups are you going to run out onto the field? 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:12.799 How many times Paul KELBC, will that quarterback actually walk 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.480 up under center and take a snap? What kind of 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.720 plays are you going to run? Protections that you're gonna use? 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.120 I cannot wait to see this because I expect to 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:26.040 see it all tomorrow night. That's the one thing about JG. 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:27.760 I expect to see it all. 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.440 Okay, that's interesting because there are two ways to go 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:32.800 if you're a brand new team, brand new staff with 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.040 a team exactly right two ways twenty nineteen. What did 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:40.680 we see Absolutely nothing from Cliff Kingsbury right, no way 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.000 to the point where it was a detriment in that 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.280 first half against the Detroit Lions. Remember is Gallos humor 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.440 the week after I thought I was gonna get fired 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.800 at halftime. Yes, because they kept everything under wraps to 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.000 the point where they didn't get enough work in their 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:55.640 own offense. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:56.120 Yes. 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:58.400 And when they came out against Matt Patricia and that 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.080 Lions team that you know, so what they wondered for 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.680 the whole month, what's coming? Well, guess what. The Cardinals 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.080 were their own worst enemy by keeping it under wraps 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:06.960 and not repping it. 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.800 Absolutely Paully And this is the beautiful thing about what 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.880 we've seen so far in training camp right now. We 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.040 have seen a lot of the quarterback under center. We 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.920 have seen a lot of power personnel groups. We've seen 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.040 twenty two personnel, two backs, two tight ends. Believe it 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.880 or not, we've actually seen that. Not a lot of it, 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.719 of course, but we've seen a lot of twelve personnel, 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:30.880 one back, two tight ends. We've seen a lot of 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.880 thirteen personnel, one back, three tight ends. We've seen those 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:40.120 power personnel groups, and we've seen power schemes, blocking schemes 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.880 being run, zone schemes, of course being run. We have 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.720 seen the gamut so far. And this is what is 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:50.240 fascinating to me. When you put a quarterback under center, Paul, 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:54.080 everyone knows what you're gonna do. There's only two things 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.320 you can really do. You can run the ball, of course, 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:57.840 and you can act like you're going to run the 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.719 ball in run down situation, first in ten second, in 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.440 one to sixth and then you're gonna throw the ball 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:06.320 using play action. The problem is can you stop it? 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.960 The problem is if that offense executes very very well 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.559 in terms of running a play action pass or actually 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.760 running the ball, can you stop it. That's the question 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:18.120 it always has been. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.479 And that's the other option. You show everything, And based 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.840 on what we've seen in camp, they've run the spread 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:27.880 with five wide, they've run thirteen personnel everything. So I'm 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:29.520 guessing we're going to see a little bit of everything 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.280 tomorrow night. Now ask for who we see, that's still 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.680 a question mark. Although Jonathan Ganna did share with the 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.880 media that he does expect Colt McCoy to get snaps. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.080 So if your starting quarterback is going, what does that 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.440 mean about some of the other personnel. I said it yesterday, 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.920 I'll say it again. I would not play James Connor. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.680 I think he looks regular season ready. There's too many 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.240 injuries behind him already in the running back room. That's 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.839 just me. Does boot A Baker really need pre season games? 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.440 He ended last season with an injury. I don't know 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.400 if you want to be extra cautious there to start 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:00.280 this season once. 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.479 Again, though, Polly, you know you've got a brand new 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.480 scheme in a brand new system. True, Is it really 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.640 gonna hurt James Connor if he gets three raps out there? 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.080 Was it really gonna hurt Buddha Baker if he goes 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.560 out there in the first series and actually makes three 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.080 calls maybe in the second area, and goes on just 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.400 wrap something very basically listen, I understand, Mike get hurt 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:25.719 those three plays. Wolf might actually listen. Football players play 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.120 the game, and so it is going to be very 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.080 interesting to see which way he goes tomorrow night. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.320 Sean Payton, for what it's worth, has already told the 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.640 Denver media his starters are going fifteen to eighteen snaps. 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:37.360 That's amazing. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.400 Russell Wilson included. So when you look at this Broncos game, 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.000 the preseason opener, if you're the head coach of the Cardinals, 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.360 Jonathan Gannon, he was asked, all right, what are your 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:46.640 goals in this debut? 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.520 I want our guys go out and compete. And then 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:53.440 really just from an organizational standpoint, like, hey, you know, 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:57.400 does everyone understand exactly their role on game day and 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.760 how their roles fit into us winning and losing games? 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.480 And we have to execute those things. And I'm sure 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.839 there'll be some bumps in the road, but everybody that's 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.160 a part of game day impacts game day, So I 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.160 think it's clearly defined for everybody. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.360 Boy, what did you make of that Paul right there 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.640 where he was actually saying, because it almost sounded like 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.720 he was talking about the players first, and then maybe 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:26.040 even the coaching staff after that. Does everyone understand what 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.720 your role is and what your responsibility is on game day? 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:30.320 Well? 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:32.840 Very interesting, even the very top of the coaching staff. 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.720 A brand new offensive coordinator calling place for the first time, Yes, 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.960 brand new defensive coordinator calling a defense for the first time. 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.920 You have rookies that you're seemingly going to count on, 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.000 guys like Michael Wilson, who had the wherewithal to tell 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.720 our Darren Urban Easycardinals dot Com that you can do 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:51.800 great in practice, but you are measured and judged off 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:56.040 how you perform in a game. Quote end quote. Nothing 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.520 has been more true in the NFL. Yes, you are 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.800 measured and judged by what you do in these games. 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.440 Are you a difference maker? Are you a playmaker? 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:04.080 You know? 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.520 I asked Dennis Gardek yesterday in the locker room. I 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.960 said to him, I said to him, Look, what are 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.840 the rookies about to find out that you already know 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:12.640 that all the veterans already know. They said, you know 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.840 what it can get. It can get pretty amped up 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.760 in practice, but there's nothing like game speed. All the 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.360 players figure out a different gear when it comes game time. So, yes, 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.920 that's going to bring some pressure for these young guys, 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.080 There's no doubt about it. In fact, the rookie head 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.640 coach was asked if he feels pressure. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.320 You I got this one from one of the team doctors. 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.520 I thought it was awesome. You know, people say, hey, 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.640 you feel any pressure you know, and you can take 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.000 that all different ways how you interpret that. But I 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.480 thought he said it best pressure is of privilege, So 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.360 I kind of thought that was pretty cool, and we 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.880 talked to our guys about that. But no, I'll be 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.000 in the moment. I'll be excited, and but I got 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:50.600 a function on game day to give it us a 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.440 chance to win. So I got a lock in and 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:53.040 do my job. 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.240 Well, what do you think his powerpole is of things 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.800 he wants to see? For me, It's got to be 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.719 the cornerback room, It's got to be D line. 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:06.120 D line, definitely offensive line as well running the football. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.199 Are you having any type of success running the football? 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:11.920 Attacking the line of scrimmage? That is going to be 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:15.240 an integral piece to the puzzle for the Arizona Cardinals 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.480 on offense. That's what I'd be looking at, number one, 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.600 attacking the line of scrimmage and are we capable of 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:22.120 doing that? 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.560 I'd also say getting to the quarterback. Are your edge 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.680 guys winning one on one battles? Yeah? Because I'm guessing 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.559 Nick Rowls isn't gonna be dialing up a lot of 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.360 complicated blitz schemes. He just wants to get a sense. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.000 Can his defensive front win one on one battles. Can 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.800 his Zavi and Collins truly use all that potential? You know, 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.400 how ready is he to be starting outside linebacker for example? 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.920 That's something I'm going to be looking at as well, 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.480 because so much of that is scheme. What do the 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.640 Arizona Cardinals do schematically? 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:51.960 Paul? 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.080 How much cover three? Are they really going to play? 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:59.480 Three deep zone four underneath rush four? Right? That's very 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:03.000 popular or across the National Football League at this point 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.440 in time. And you need raps. You need to get 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:10.760 this stuff on tape offensively, defensively, and in transition, Paul, 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.439 you need teaching tape. It's critical. 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:15.240 Here's the other thing you can only get in a 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:19.200 game these days in twenty twenty three. Tackling. You don't 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.840 tackle to the ground in any practice during a training 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.640 camp these days. So which running backs can break tackles? 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:29.200 We're not talking about practice, man, man, we're talking about it, Gay, We're. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.000 Talking about DB's tackling in the open field. Okay, they 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.600 need practice. Can they do it? Are they willing to 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:35.760 do it? Put their nose in there? 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:36.000 Hey? 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.559 Single game tickets on sale now. Go Toazycardinals dot com. 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:43.200 Slash buy tickets to secure your seats today again Cardinal Center, 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.400 Pat Elfline joining us a little bit later when we 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.679 come back this offense, what's going to look like? What 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.320 did Hollywood Brown revealed the media as to what it 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:52.000 might look like? 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:52.880 That is next. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.840 It is a big red rage presented by Santan Ford 0:10:55.960 --> 0:11:00.560 in Gilbert. 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.960 Murray looking fires right side and it's caught in the 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:06.120 end zone a touchdown. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:07.800 Greg Dorche had his. 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:09.480 Big time from Dorche and. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.840 Kylo snap to Murray, quick throw a left side, It's 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:13.720 caught and the one into. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:17.319 The end zone for the touchdown is Greg dort Into. 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.240 Greg Dortch's across the forty to the forty five, fifty 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.160 into Tampa territory. Inside the forty five spinning his way 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:28.520 to the forty two yard line. Greg Dorch with more 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.360 energy right now than the entire Tampa defense. 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:33.920 There's a big chunk run cast the left pot by 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.719 dorts burst out of the fifty barside forty thirty five 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:37.560 thirty cuts. 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.439 Back to the rank twenty five twenty Georch Dontice being fifteen. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.320 This is the one thing that is undeniable about Greg Dorch. 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:49.719 Every time he gets the opportunity to play. He makes place. 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:55.680 As a players say facts, He's making place every single 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:56.360 day at camp. 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:56.640 Yeah. 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.720 Now he still might be the fifth or even sixth 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.160 receiver on this roster. I just wonder how long before 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:07.319 that changes, before he gets serious traction on a depth chart, 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.439 because when he got opportunities last year, Ron Wolfy, Greg 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.360 Dortch was a playmaker, he was a difference maker. Welcome 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.440 back into the big Red Rach Paul kelvc ron Wolfly 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.000 pat elf line right around the corner Cardinals center. But 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.040 Greg Dortch picked up this offseason and this camp right 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:23.840 where he left off last season, did he not? 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.480 Yeah? He did, Paully, no doubt about it. That's why 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.840 the personnel groups are going to be very interesting to watch. 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:32.839 I imagine the Arizona Cardinals are going to use a 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:36.520 lot of eleven personnel, one back, one tight end, three 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.280 wide receivers. Will he be one of those three wide 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.679 receivers in that? Because I see a hard road for 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.240 him if in fact, he's trying to crack the twelve 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.720 personnel group, which I expect to see an awful lot 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.720 in rundown situation for the Arizona Cardinals. One back, two 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:57.040 tight ends, two wide receivers. Those two wide receivers could 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:01.400 be Mike Wilson of course, and Hollywood Brown, those two guys, 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.720 and that's why it might be tough to get a 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:04.680 lot of those reps. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.160 In the last two years, Rondelle Moore has been ahead 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:11.199 of Greg Dortch playing the same position, so it almost 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.360 went one or the other. When Rondell Moore was healthy, 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.559 Greg Dortsch basically got zero reps, but Rondale Moore missed 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.400 nine games last year. Yeah, gave Dorsch a lot of 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.040 opportunity to make some plays and compile some stats. 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.479 Yes, the best ability is availability. 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.640 And to your point about tight ends, we've already heard 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.360 the numbers from Kyle Vannenbosch. He did the homework, he 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.160 drilled down the analytics and Drew Patzen. He comes from 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.439 a Cleveland offense. It was top three and twelve personnel 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.040 and number one and thirteen personnel. So there will be 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.600 tight ends as soon as they get healthy. There will 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.280 be tight ends out on that field. There's also going 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.520 to be the same cram the ball vertical from the 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.880 head coach Jonathan Gannon. You know they're gonna run it, 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:53.440 and it's been a process, because, as zach Ertz told 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.080 you in the offseason, this scheme couldn't be any more 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.960 different quote unquote than the previous scheme. Here's the new 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.679 offensive coreditator Drew Petscen just on the players and the 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:03.360 learning curve. 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.080 I think these guys have really embraced that challenge, certainly 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.280 the language, the understanding of what we're asking them to do, 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.439 the technique that goes along with that, and then in 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.280 terms of the evolution of the offense I think my 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.440 understanding of who we have out there has improved, so 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.760 trying to start tailoring it to the guys that we think, 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.600 are you better or have a little bit more ability 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:21.320 to make plays, that's where the offense has to go. 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.440 And I've certainly tried to embrace that here as we've 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:24.080 gone through camp. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.720 See that is going to be really interesting to watch 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.040 right there, Paul, because of that very thing, you got 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.920 to tailor it to the talent that you actually have. 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.080 You can't be dogmatic to a point where you're out there, well, 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.200 we're going to go three tight ends, that's what we're 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.400 going to do. But if you really don't have three 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.520 tight ends, maybe you don't want to go that route 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.800 as much as you may have done in Cleveland. So 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.880 it's really one of these deals where listening to Drew, 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.240 he's talking about getting to know the talent that he 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.160 has and the players that he has and the players 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.640 they can depend on more importantly, and then we'll get 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:58.920 a better feel for where this offense is headed. That's 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.400 one of the reasons why Tom Night in the first 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.760 preseason game, in every preseason game that they play, I 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.320 can't wait to see what they do because they're really 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.440 not trying to tailor it towards the player now. They're 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.560 really not doing that. They want to see. These are 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.040 the schemes we want to run, and by the way, 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.520 can you execute the schemes that we want to run 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.600 right now? But that's very telling as well, because you 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.120 see a little bit into the window of the soul 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:24.240 of Drew Petzing. 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.360 What is this saying that him and Jonathan Gannon use 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:31.840 adapt or die? Yes, that if you're not multiple, you 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.760 become predictable, and that is how you die in the NFL, 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.520 because predictable offense is just way too easy to defend, 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.800 especially in today's day and age of defensive coordinators, and 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.800 let's face it, what did we say each of the 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:47.680 last three years December and January adjust to the adjustment? 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.440 Was there enough adjusting by the Cardinals offense the last 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:52.000 three years? 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.040 How many times have you heard me say, bully that 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.800 while playing for the Cleveland Browns, Bill Belichick would just 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:02.080 come over after you know, he drives three possessions, maybe 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.600 even two possessions in the first quarter and say, okay, listen, guys, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.440 everything that we practiced all week long, forget about it, 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.000 this is what we're gonna do. Honestly, Paul, he would 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.320 do that, and that's the reason why he would go 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:19.760 out in the off season and look for smart, tough, 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.560 discipline football players. That's what he would do because he 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.520 knew he was gonna do that. In the middle of 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.640 the first quarter. He knew he was gonna come over 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.600 and go, Okay, I know we practiced this all week long, 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.160 forget about it. That's out the window. This is what 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.560 we're gonna do, and he'd start greasing it up right 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.440 there on the board. I mean, you've got to be 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.320 able to adjust, Paul. You have to be fluid. 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:45.760 So when an Isaiah Simmons or a Jalen Thompson tells 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.400 the media that the difference with his coaching staff is 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.360 they feel like they're playing free. And when I went 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:53.440 around the locker room and talked to a few veterans 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.880 about that, they share that, you know what, they're allowed 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.680 to be decision makers, that there is the scheme, there 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.840 are the rules, but you're able to react because you 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.879 never quite know what you're going to encounter, snap to snap, 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.600 drive to drive. So you're try and equip the players 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.600 to not only be playmakers to it, to be thinkers 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.000 out there as well, because you can't give every player 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.560 every possible potential outcome on every snap. 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.760 Yeah, and you want you want players to be free 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.800 out on the field, there's no doubt about it. But 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:27.119 remember poly they must execute their assignment. They have a 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.640 job to do, and if they don't do it, you're 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:31.000 free falling. 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:35.439 Yeah, it can't become free lancing, is what you're saying. Right, Okay, Okay, no, 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.040 I went Tom Petty, I went free falling. I get 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.480 it all right, So you know what that begs for 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.640 a segue right here? And here's my question because people 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.560 ask me out this Cardinals offense. Okay, as I hit 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:46.959 zoom out and I tell them, you know, what. I 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.000 think they have enough playmakers. I think they have enough 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.400 at receiver, especially now as Zach Pascal. They have five 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:57.000 very different receivers. I think they have it. Definitely have 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.520 enough at running back, two time Pro bowler James Conner, 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.840 who looks at excellent. If they fix the offensive line, 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.240 if they fix the offensive line, I think they have 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:08.720 enough to be a threat on offense. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.280 That's going to be interesting. Paullly, the offensive line, you 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.640 and I have talked about this all training camp. Right now, 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.960 I do believe the offensive line, maybe the pass apart 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.720 two the key that unlocks all locks for the Arizona 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.639 Cardinals this year. And the reason being is because again, 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.360 they've got to be able to run the ball. They've 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.880 got to be able to protect the quarterback, especially when 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.840 Kyler Murray is out there playing quarterback. But if you 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:35.600 can run the ball, that means you're also probably going 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.680 to be really good at throwing the ball using play 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.800 action and protecting your quarterback. If that happens, I think 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.359 the Arizona Cardinals will score points. To your point about 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.800 them having enough playmakers, I'm with you on that one. 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:47.399 Right there. 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.639 It's the offensive line that really holds the key, and 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.320 that's why there's a couple of training camp battles the 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.080 left guard position, I would say, and even center I 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:57.280 would throw that in there. 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.359 I would agree with that. I mean the known as 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.719 DJ Humps and Paris Johnson Junior. Those are the bookend tackles. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.600 Will Hernandez, the right guard, has looked good in camp. 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:07.720