1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to 2 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: the show, fellow Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so 3 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: much for tuning in. Let's hear it for one of 4 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: our favorite cat dads, our super producer, mister Max Williams. 5 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you know what I like. 6 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: I like boots and cats, boots and cats and boots. 7 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: And that's how you approximate a techno beat. 8 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 4: With words, Can you do it? 9 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 3: That's Nold Brown and your Bembola and you go boots 10 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: and cats and boots and cats. And you know, I 11 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: think it's actually I got that that. I learned that 12 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: from Siria. I want to say, I can't remember I 13 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: came up somehow, but yeah, yeah, for sure, Cat dads, dad, 14 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: dad's daddies, zaddies and daddies. 15 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: We're here for all of you. 16 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I am I am called Ben Bollen in 17 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: this part of the country dealing with dealing with some 18 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: dad issues ourselves at this moment, we wanted to take 19 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: a special excursion here on Ridiculous History in celebration of 20 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: Father's Day. Noel, Max, We've all talked in the past 21 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: about the importance of Father's Day. Always relationships with one's 22 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: parents can be complicated. Right, the course of true love 23 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: never did run smooth. 24 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're. 25 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 5: Talking about, right, right, right, right right, And we want 26 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 5: to first off, thank everybody who has a father or 27 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 5: is a father themselves in the crowd. 28 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: And I'd like to take a moment, Noel, not to 29 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: put you on the spot too hard, to let you 30 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: know that you're you're doing a kick ass job as 31 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: a dad man. 32 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: Aw, thanks buddy, I appreciate that, and you know, all 33 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 3: my career, Hey, thanks pal. And while my father has 34 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: has moved on beyond this mortal coil, I do like 35 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: to think of him as a Mufasa in the cloud 36 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: situation sometimes and do try to still honor him on 37 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: Father's Day, which is of course a highly commercial holiday. 38 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: Let's not get it twisted, but I think it's kind 39 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: of neat. And today we're gonna talk about we've done 40 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: the history of Father's Day before, but today we're gonna 41 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: do a bit of a Father's Day grab bag full 42 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 3: of socks and neckties and wrist watches and all the 43 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 3: fun stuff. We're gonna have some suggestions for Father's Day. 44 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: Guess we're gonna talk about some Father's Day traditions the 45 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 3: world over and maybe some famous zaddies, some famous dads. 46 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: I think you got some in your back pocket, Ben, But. 47 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is what we're gonna do on 48 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 3: today's episode of Ridiculous Father's Day History, right. 49 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 4: Right, Father's Day History. 50 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: Please do check out our earlier episode. We're gonna republish 51 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: this as a classic uh this weekend. You can find 52 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 1: it as the origins of and backlash against Father's Day, 53 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: wherein we dive deep into the history of this relatively 54 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: whole marketing celebration. 55 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: It's all Markeian for sure, but you know it's like, 56 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: I mean, we're gonna get into it, but in Germany 57 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: it's just called Man's Day. 58 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's do it right now. 59 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: Sounds like it should just be a day of the week. 60 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: Why not. 61 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: There's a really cool article on the Rosetta Stone Blogs. 62 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: You'll Remembermber Rosetta Stone. 63 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: I do. 64 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: I was actually an intense subscriber and also side note, folks, 65 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: I did walk away from Duo Lingo with the not 66 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: good quote AI stuff, but was like Pimslers back in 67 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: the day. 68 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: Rosetta Stone was also I just remember the big yellow boxes. 69 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: And also it like I don't know, it had like 70 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: it was giving Mayvis Beacon kind of vibes. 71 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 6: You know. 72 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: It was like a golden age for tutorial software, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 73 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: but big backlash against duo lingo. 74 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: You're right. 75 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 3: My kid actually told me about that, and I'm a 76 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: little on the fence about it because it is sort 77 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: of like a procedural thing that I could see parts 78 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: of it being a reasonable use of AI. 79 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: But anything anything. 80 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: That removes the human element entirely from a thing that 81 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: was founded on the human element, I do. 82 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: It is a sticky It's a sticky situation, and the 83 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: jimmy's a little little bit a little bit of a 84 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: little bit of the jimmy. So it's a So look, 85 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: if you want to buy your father or the fathers 86 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: in your life some kind of gift or recognition, our 87 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: primary thesis here is that one doesn't need to wait 88 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: for Father's Day. It is not a international agreed holiday. 89 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: It's something that happens in different days, right, different parts 90 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: of the calendar, in different parts of the world. As 91 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: you were mentioning Noel, the German version monor dog. 92 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: Is for actually be men are now if it's an o. 93 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: It's an a umlaut. That would be men are men 94 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 3: are talk literally like men? 95 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: Or day do it? 96 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 4: Do it one more time? 97 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: Men are talk? There we go aka ascension day. 98 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 4: Forty days after Easter? 99 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 1: What is that? 100 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: That's when then the Lord God ascended into heaven. Look, 101 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: we're not calendar doctors called the sension day. 102 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: So look the point is that's what happened. Okay, cool, 103 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: thank you back for the facts. 104 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 6: Yep, that seeking in the phone gets back and he's 105 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 6: falling knowledge just for you right now here. Well, you're 106 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 6: MAX with the facts. 107 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: Forty days after Easter. It's indeed, Young Thorn Jesus, a 108 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: young JC. 109 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: Rolled a side stone in the I'm fairly stern on 110 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: that one. 111 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: Was it that way? 112 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on the tape. You don't have 113 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: to be. In fact. The second time, Oh, that's seeking. 114 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 6: The phone gets back and he's falling knowledge just for 115 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 6: your right now here, talking with the facts. 116 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: It's still MAX with the facts. I think the factoids. 117 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: Did I use factoids right? 118 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 7: One time? 119 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 120 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: The fact is that a third MAX with the facts 121 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: right here. 122 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 6: Oh that's the phone gets back and he's falling knowledge 123 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 6: just for your right now here. 124 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: Talking back with the facts. 125 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: No, no, no, this. 126 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: The troll if anything. 127 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: Right. 128 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: So, a factoid is something that appears. 129 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: Be accurate and is not, and is often misused as 130 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: like a micro fact because it sounds like it would 131 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: be that, and I'm a little resentful And it's not 132 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: because I do think a factoid sounds like a cute, 133 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: little bite sized fact. 134 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: It is not. 135 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: I'm still learning English like Peru's non Peru right. 136 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: Perus means both to scrutinize and to skim uh. It 137 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: is a counter factual. It's a paradoxical word. 138 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: Anyway, wouldn't it be fun to try to learn English 139 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: on an app like just see how they teach it 140 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: to others? 141 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: I would. I think that could be educational. I think 142 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: it could be educational. 143 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to give you next time we all 144 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: hang out, I've got to give you, guys, my collection 145 00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: of foreign publications as travel guides to the United States. 146 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: They are amazing, and they're pretty snarky. The German one 147 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: is one of my favorites anyway. Germany, the way they 148 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: do Men's Day forty days after Easter. It's not really 149 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: about your family hanging out with you as a father. 150 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: What it is more so is a bunch of dads 151 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: get together and they go on a hike. 152 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 4: They have bro. 153 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: Hangs and they fun. Well, you know, they're Germans. There's 154 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: a lot of beer on it. But apparently it goes 155 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: back to the Middle Ages in Central and Western Europe, 156 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: when guys were pulled via carts, which were you know, 157 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: like a big deal at the time. Wagon situation right 158 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: to the center of the village. It's like a little 159 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: parade and everybody is celebrating them. 160 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: And isn't there beer in the wagons as well? In 161 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: the traditional version of. 162 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah then and now And if you are the guy 163 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: in the village with the most children, most legitimate children 164 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: by the way, uh, then respreader, Yeah you get a prize. Okay, cool, 165 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: it is a small child. 166 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 4: You get another child? 167 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beer, is what it is? Now? I could, 168 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. It's a ham. Oh 169 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 2: you get a ham. 170 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: That's kind of like a small child. A small child 171 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 3: and a ham way about the same. 172 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: These are Noel Brown facts. 173 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: Facts dare say. 174 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: Uh. And apparently the amount of alcohol consumption uh is 175 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,119 Speaker 3: up there with the Big Binge drinking festival over there Octoberfest. 176 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: But I will say, as a bit of a as 177 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: one who was once a small Drummond boy and a 178 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 3: bit of a Germanophile, been spending some time in Berlin 179 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: these last few years. 180 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: Drinking culture there is not unhinged at all. 181 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: Like they let young people drink uh and and you 182 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: can there's really no age restrictions for going into bars 183 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: or places that serve exclude of the alcohol because there's 184 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: a certain measured approach to drinking that I've seen, and 185 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 3: everywhere I go, whatever the event is, it doesn't seem 186 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: like it's an unhinged, boozy kind of country. 187 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: No, no, it's not. It's not Bourbon Street by any means. Right, 188 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: you will see people from old demographics sipping like a 189 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: pilsner or a logger at lunch, and it's just like 190 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: the way you might have a soda, you know. 191 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: They're like they used to drink it back in the 192 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: Middle Ages as it because everything else would have been feted. 193 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah that's the right word, bad water, right, yeah, yeah, unclean. 194 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: We we know. 195 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: Also, we're we're all big fans of Germany as a country. 196 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: Currently they're also currently apparently in mega doomsday prep mode. 197 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: We talked about that on our recent Strange News episode 198 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: of Stuff they Don't Want You to know, And I 199 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 3: believe I made the observation that the Germans are nothing 200 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: if not uh fastidious and prepared. 201 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: Yes, they are the atlas upon which NATO must stand. 202 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: Uh. 203 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: We also know that there are other Father's Day celebrations 204 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: throughout the world. 205 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: Japan. 206 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: Oh, oh, Japan, you want to do Japan? 207 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, that is if i'm if I'm 208 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 2: a Germanophile. I think you're a Japanophile. 209 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 4: Do you mean a wiya boo? 210 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: Yes, I am a consummate tourist. Perhaps that's what we 211 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: tell customs and Passport Control. 212 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, Japan with. 213 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: A Costco card, thought it right. 214 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 4: They won't even let my tote and chip slide. Uh. 215 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: That's a joke for the few boy scouts in the crowd, 216 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: all right. Japan has a thing on the third Sunday 217 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: in June, so much more predictable than that weird ascension day, 218 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: and still in June, and still in June. 219 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: Great point. It is called Chee chee no height. 220 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: Uh. This is where you will give a father in 221 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: your life some flowers, some fancy food, some sweet desserts. 222 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: Maybe some sake. And of course still they get clothing, ties, socks, 223 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: they might get some sports items, calf cologne, perhaps cologne, yes, yes, 224 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,239 Speaker 1: what did you say, Ben? Cologne is meant to be discovered, 225 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: not an ounce, not announced. I love that I've become 226 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: a bit of a cologne guy myself lately. 227 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: And Ben, I do love here the non gender treatment 228 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: of flowers. It just seems like we think of it 229 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 3: over here in the West. It's like something you give 230 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 3: a lady or like to your date or to your mother. 231 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 3: And I think flowers are for everybody. As someone who 232 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: absolutely loves fresh cut. 233 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: Flowers, that's interesting observation. Yeah, I feel like it's a 234 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: decent housewarming present, right, because it's not you know, housewarmings 235 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: in the US version are so fundamentally strange. It's like, Hey, 236 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: you just moved to a new place. You had to 237 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: move all your other possessions. Let me give you some stuff. 238 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 4: Do you realize how much stuff you have? 239 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: So let me give you another thing? Right, So, flowers 240 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: being ephemeral are pretty cool. I gotta say, you know, 241 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: there's this there's this drive I think in the in 242 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: the human nature to acknowledge those folks who made your 243 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: life possible, and that's why we see it. We see 244 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: celebrations like Father's Day in Italy and the Philippines and 245 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: India and France. Do you want to stick with Europe first? 246 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: Gotta gotta do the Italy one, just because it's so 247 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 3: fun to say. It is, which is celebrated on a 248 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: religious holiday, Saint Joseph's Feast day, and this is not 249 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: in June. This is March, March to nineteenth. So in 250 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 3: this tradition we have young school children who actually write 251 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: poems about their father, and it really hits home and 252 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: emphasizes the idea of creating things like crafts and cards 253 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: and drawings, which to me, I think are the ultimate gift. 254 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's people out there that you 255 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: want stuff, but I will take a homemade card or 256 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: a beaded bracelet any day of the week. 257 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 4: I appreciate. 258 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: I think homemade gifts are much better because really they 259 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: are an exhibition of time and affection, and time and 260 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: affection are the only true currencies of the world. We 261 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: also got to shout out Saint Joseph, by the way. 262 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: The reason it's all in Saint Joseph's Day in Italy 263 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: is because Saint Joseph is, yes, the husband of the 264 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: Virgin Mary and the legal, if not biological father of 265 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. So he's he's like the main earth dad, 266 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: you know. And so that's that's great. And also again 267 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: as we're going to see throughout this episode, uh, there's 268 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: a lot of emphasis on getting together for a big 269 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: family meal family. 270 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: Exactly. 271 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: But Beto, now sorry, I think those close family style 272 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: Italian dining is the best. And there's some really great spots. 273 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: There's a whole little Italian kind of compound here in 274 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: Atlanta near Georgia Tech where they have Anticho Pizza and 275 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: which is really good Neapolitan style pizza. 276 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: And then they also in that same you know compound 277 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: thing have. 278 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: A really good uh gelato place and an excellent family 279 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: style byo b Roasted chicken place forgetting the name. 280 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: Of now, but boy is it good. 281 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: You can get like a like a spicy kind of 282 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: blood orange infused roasted chicken. 283 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: So I love that stuff. Let's also, you know what, 284 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: while we're talking about Italy, the you know, the foundational 285 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: place of Catholicism. Currently, let's stay Catholic. No, let's go 286 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: to the Philippines. 287 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: But really quickly, Ben, I just do want to point 288 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: out that this family style meal might not be a 289 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: roasted chicken or a giant a pile of meatballs seafood 290 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: because they would well yeah, yeah for sure, or potentially 291 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: meatless because they it happens during length during the Italian season, 292 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: happens during length, so potentially. 293 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't count as meat though, that is true. 294 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, pescatarian, but you're right, that doesn't count. 295 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: Them's the rules. So yeah, sorry, Ben, Let's go to 296 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: the Philippines, like you. 297 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: Were saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. 298 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: The Philippines strong Catholic culture. Father's Day is a big 299 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: deal holiday there. It was introduced not through the Spanish occupation, 300 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: but through American culture, US culture, and it is celebrated 301 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: on the third Sunday of June. It's very food based, 302 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: and I got to tell you, if you've ever had 303 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 1: the chance, or if you ever have the chance to 304 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: meet a lola in someone who can cook Filipino food, 305 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: you need to do your best to get on their 306 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: good side and get invited to that cookout. You'll get 307 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: the latron, you'll get the adobo. It's amazing. They're like 308 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: the lumpia by the way, have you ever had things right, 309 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: very very good little cigars? 310 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: Now they're so good, they're a little tighter wrapped. In 311 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: my hometown, Augusta, Georgia, they have like a big arts 312 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: festival every year and they have like the different nationality 313 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 3: food stands in the Filipino booth always a hot ticket 314 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: because they make some excellent food. I believe the cari kari, 315 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: which is like a peanut based stew. Any of those 316 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 3: little glass noodle kind of situations are really great. And 317 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: Lashan you mentioned being like a barbecue pork that would 318 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 3: be roasted on a spit, super super wonderful food. We 319 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: got some good Filipino food options here in Atlanta's well, 320 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: why don't we take it to Sweden pen for fars dog. 321 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: Dog exactly second Sunday in November. 322 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 4: Right, this is uh. 323 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: Oh, we're moving farther and farther away from June. 324 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 4: You know what people are gonna people. 325 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: This is again a situation where you see the father's 326 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: being celebrated. Starts around the turn of the twentieth century, 327 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: so early nineteen hundred's fathers get cakes and they get 328 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: they get books that they may or may not read. 329 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: No shade and they get ties. And the thing is, 330 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Sweden culturally leans into the idea of getting the same 331 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: gift over and over. 332 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: So if it's a humor of the Swedes. 333 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, very dry sense of humor. You could 334 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: tell by their cuisine. I said, it don't cut it. 335 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: So the idea is that as you grow as a 336 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: patter familius, you get ties every year, and you get 337 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: more and more ties as you age. 338 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so many ties. 339 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 3: That necessitates an entire rack, you know, and perhaps an 340 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: electric ty rack, you know, where you can kind of 341 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: like the library of ties. 342 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: You know, remember the electric tyracts? People still have those? 343 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 4: Is that a real thing? Absolutely? 344 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: That would have been a hugely popular Father's Day gift 345 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 3: back in the day. It's like a Sharper image type thing. Okay, 346 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: see electric tie rack. It's sort of like a conveyor 347 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 3: belt of ties and they hang down and go around 348 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: in a sort of a ellipse, an elliptical orbit, the 349 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: electric diract. It reminds me of an episode of Mister 350 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: Show about megaphone crooning. It's like a documentary about the 351 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 3: golden age of megaphone crooning, and the two crooners featured 352 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: have to keep coming up with new inventions to croon about, and. 353 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: One of them was electric tyrack. It's so nice move 354 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: that ties from side to side. 355 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 4: I like that. 356 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 3: I like the best parton that goes electric tyract baby 357 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 3: it loves it, or racking up electric ties, which doesn't 358 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 3: make any sense because the ties a lot electric. 359 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: I heard it. There's some bars there. We also know 360 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: that the third Sunday of June is when Costa Rica 361 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: celebrates Father's Day, and they did so by adopting the 362 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: US custom in there again to the importance and I 363 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: think we're all agreed here. Handmade gifts are better than 364 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: stuff you buy, so children in Costa Rica will make 365 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: gifts for their dads. And again you gotta have the 366 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: big family meal, so you get your gayo pento, you 367 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: get your casado. Uh, this is one of my favorite parts. Actually, no, 368 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: because I've seen this. 369 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: Uh. 370 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: The kids will do like a song, dance or a 371 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Quick Conner show. 372 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: I love it. 373 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 374 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 3: Is there a theme around it is just something related 375 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: to the honoring of the final man. 376 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: Have you ever been to like children's theatrical performance? 377 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 3: Depending well, as you've been interview, I know that for sure. 378 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: But in Germany. 379 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: I do remember puppets were huge puppet theater for kids, 380 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 3: and marionettes. 381 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: And stuff were really really big, So I do remember that. 382 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: And of course I've participated in like, you know, church 383 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 3: camp kind of things. 384 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: So a brief tangent about my own patter familias many 385 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: years ago. Colonel, you know, the colonel they call him 386 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: not Kurt's hashtag, no Kurtz, I hope, but I don't 387 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: know too much about him. Uh he uh. He decided 388 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: to uh do ride share stuff for a few years, 389 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: and he was absolutely terrible at it because he wasn't 390 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: in a hurry and he. 391 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 2: Ordered to chat. 392 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, he just wanted to hang out. 393 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: And so I've had I've gotten a few of those 394 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: as the uber driver from time to time. 395 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 3: It's definitely a type, right, Yeah, it's doing it for 396 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 3: different reasons that doing it for the gig economy. 397 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: So here's the story. 398 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he clearly didn't need the money or the mission, 399 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: but he met someone who was in a hurry to 400 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: see her grand nieces recital like a child, right, and 401 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: they were doing skits and they were doing a little 402 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: dancing or whatever, and this absolute legend says, yeah, okay, 403 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: I'll go with you because the lady is worried you 404 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: shall have to go alone. So he just shows up 405 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: and uh, without getting any too many specifics here or 406 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: giving too many specifics. He is not the demographic and 407 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: now he's friends with everybody in that auditorium. 408 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: Of course he is. He is an abooliant fellow. I 409 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: love that story. 410 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: Ben. 411 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: I did recently go to like an elementary school pageant 412 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 3: type play where all of the kids were different barnyard animals. 413 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: And boy was it cute, and boy was the sound horrible. 414 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 4: What was your favorite animal? 415 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: Well, of course my other child, uh, not really directly, 416 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 3: but my kid's baby Sis, who was basically frontons and purposes. 417 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: My other kid was a was a pig. And the 418 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: joke in the song was that the pigs were really 419 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: neat and tidy. They were really tidy, fastidious pigs, fastidious brilliance. 420 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: You're killing it today. 421 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: Like the Germans. 422 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 4: Your welcome bucker root. 423 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: If you are familiar with the diaspora of South Asia 424 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: and the Indian subcontinent, then you will probably recognize this. 425 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: The third Sunday in June is Father's Day in many 426 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: major cities of India. Now India is huge. India's culture 427 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: is ancient. This is again an adaptation of the concept 428 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: of Father's Day as originating in the United States. Again, 429 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: if you're the dad in an Indian family, you'll get 430 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: some books. You'll get flowers, which I think we both 431 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: agree is very cool, handmade car shirts, you get a cake. 432 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: People bake a cake. There will be some special prayers 433 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: said on your behalf, which I think is cool. I 434 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: suspect strongly correct us here if we're off base. I 435 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: suspect there were a lot of prayers given to fathers 436 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: in Italy and Japan as well. 437 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 3: Oh especially yeah, of course during war time, no question 438 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: about it. And can I just say that the chuckle 439 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: that you heard from Ben was my actual child walking 440 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 3: past behind me and then me giving them the finger, 441 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 3: because that's just how we roll. It was a good 442 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: natured finger. 443 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 4: I saw you both smiling. 444 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: There was definitely smiling for sure. Nah, love that kid, 445 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: and I expect an epic gift. 446 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: Speaking of which Ben, in this Rosetta Stone blog piece 447 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 3: that we are not shilling for Rosetta Stone, it ends 448 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 3: with a way of saying Happy Father's Day and tons 449 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: of different different languages which we are totally not going 450 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: to do, lest we humiliate ourselves and butcher the language 451 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 3: at hand. But I was just wondering, Ben, I had 452 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 3: a couple of things that I wanted to throw in, 453 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 3: maybe as some action items for folks waiting till the 454 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 3: last minute for getting their father Father's Day gift recom 455 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 3: I know that you had a couple things in your. 456 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 2: Back pocket too, So which orders shall we take it in? 457 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 4: You know what? 458 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: No hop in the driver's seat for this one. I'm 459 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: very interested in hearing your ideas because I'd also love 460 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of your council. 461 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 2: Well, it's not my counsel, Ben, I'm referring to a 462 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: BuzzFeed list to call it. 463 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 4: All right, thank you, Nola. 464 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 3: I will say, though there's something on here this is 465 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 3: particular to our topic at hand or the genre of 466 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: the show. 467 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: It's fourteen Father's Day Gifts every history bus. 468 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 3: Dad secretly once and it just gave me some ideas 469 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: because I do remember, you know, my dad really did 470 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 3: love like history. So you might consider this book eighteen 471 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 3: sixty one, The Lost Piece by Jay Winnick about the 472 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 3: Civil War. It is apparently a delights and a very 473 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: well written book and a New York Times bestseller, as 474 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: it turns out, one that I love from this list 475 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: though that I have thought about before, that kind of 476 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: falls squarely in that dad gift kind of thing, but 477 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: it's a little more creative. Is a fancy fountain pen. 478 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: Ah, Yes, the fancy fountain. 479 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: Pen, one that you can get little nubbins for like 480 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: it just you know, you don't. It's not disposable. It's 481 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 3: like one that you would It's like a nice thing 482 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: that you would cherish and remember who gave it to you. 483 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: A rolex of pens, rightly, perhaps. 484 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: You definitely could go that route. And I don't know 485 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 3: if you're in on the world of luxury pens, but 486 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: it is a pretty broad spectrum of like how much 487 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 3: you want to pay. You could get one super nice 488 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: that they've recommended hereby Scrivnier, a London company, for about 489 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: forty five bucks. 490 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: Scrivener's on the low end, by the way, That's exactly 491 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: it would seem so. 492 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 3: But it does look very nice. And I have a 493 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 3: fountain pen that takes these little cartridges that I quite enjoyed, 494 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: and as well, how do you feel about custom mugs? 495 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: Ben Custom Mugs True. 496 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: Story one of my absolute legendary cousins told my one 497 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: of my many shady uncles, told him that he was 498 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: going to be a grandfather. On Father's Day, she got 499 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: him a mug that said best granddad ever. And then 500 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: she said, we are not taking questions because my family 501 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: is very strange. 502 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: Everybody all got him. 503 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: Then we've all got the odd balls, and then everybody's 504 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: doing strange. Excuse me, Well, we'll keep that back. Everybody's 505 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: doing well, including uncle Fireworks. I still don't know what 506 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: that guy does. 507 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: Who are we talking about? 508 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: My uncle, my shady uncle who found out that he 509 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: was a grandfather. 510 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 2: That is his nickname. Yeah, fireworks. 511 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: See a bit of a pyromaniac as he likes to 512 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 3: do fireworks. 513 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 7: I mean that'd be a simple guest right there. 514 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: Well, he told me that he is involved with fireworks 515 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: in China. 516 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: I had an uncle, but he was more into firewater. 517 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: Fire water, I see. 518 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: And then I had one more just to honor our pal, 519 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: aj Bahamas Jacobs, the puzzler and something that we talk 520 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: about both on this show and our sister podcast. Stuff 521 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. It's a real catch 522 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: all for all of these things. There is a five 523 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: hundred piece puzzle of banned books. 524 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: Oh that's beautiful. Yeah, shout out to our buddy Roy 525 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: Wood Junior. By the way, guy loves puzzles. That's the 526 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: only thing I talked with him about. You do you 527 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: like getting a puzzle as a gift. 528 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: It feels a bit like getting a homework assignment. It's 529 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: not my favorite, but I do think there are people 530 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: out there that love it. And this one features sixty 531 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: five different books that have at one point or another 532 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: been banned, including a lot of, as the BuzzFeed listical 533 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 3: points out, historically underrepresented authors. How many pieces in the 534 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: puzzle five hundred? Oh, so that's actually a pretty respectable number. 535 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 3: Some of the books here are like more modern ones, 536 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 3: like The Hate You Get, which was pretty controversial, the 537 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: sixteen nineteen project. This book is gay ghost Boys, Catcher 538 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: in the Rye. You know, the obvious hits, things like 539 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: that to Kill a Mockingbird. But someone's here that I'm 540 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: not super familiar with, and it's actually The Kite Runner. 541 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: Didn't you know that was controversial? 542 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 4: Okay? 543 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: Got it? Interesting? 544 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 3: Well, I think this is a little something for all 545 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: the history buff and puzzlers. 546 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: Nice, nice, well, Noel brought it back now before we uh, 547 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: before we wrap up and go to our various celebrations. 548 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: Max, you had something to add. 549 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 7: Here, of course, because you know, while ridiculous royal deaths 550 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 7: might be over, we can still talk about them some. 551 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 7: And I was just kind of digging around because when 552 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 7: we're doing this topic, for some reason, my brain went 553 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 7: instantly to John the baby. 554 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: Maker and Yoko. 555 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 4: Forget John classic, who else. 556 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 7: Has had a lot of children? And this one I 557 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 7: think is pretty hilarious. But Henry One had twenty seven children. 558 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 7: So who Henry One was is? He was King of 559 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 7: England eleven hundred to eleven thirty five. 560 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 4: He was one. 561 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 7: I think he was the third son of William the Conqueror, 562 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 7: And if you remember, William Conqueror's eldest son was at 563 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 7: constant war with him, like literally they were trying to 564 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 7: kill each other across the first Channel. The second son 565 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 7: went out hunting and got shot with an arrow and then. 566 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 4: Huh in the knee, not the knee. 567 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 7: But also you know that's actually just reality. This Tyan 568 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 7: references say getting married exactly, it's like a shot on 569 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 7: the knee, That's what that's what it actually means, Like yeah, yeah, 570 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 7: I found that one out like not that long. I'm like, oh, okay, 571 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 7: that makes sense. But uh now the William Rufus, the 572 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 7: first one he became king, he got shot with an 573 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 7: arrow and his brother was like already halfway there back 574 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 7: to the castle by the time he got shot with 575 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 7: an arrow. And this guy, Henry One his son, is 576 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 7: the one who got like super drunk and basically when 577 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 7: I enjoy ride in a boat and crashed it and died. 578 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 579 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 7: This guy, by the way, he had twenty seven children. 580 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 7: Twenty seven children, almost all them illegitimate, and he's the 581 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 7: one who died from eating lampreys. 582 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: All right, so get that man a Ham. 583 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 3: Celebrate the village right, Once you've had a lampreys, you 584 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: can't go back to Ham. Sorry, Ham doesn't wriggle around 585 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 3: in your gutties. 586 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 4: Hilarious. 587 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 7: It's like from all the stories, like it was so 588 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 7: obvious that he was a lurser to them, and everyone's 589 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 7: also like they're also really disgusting. This guy just loves 590 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 7: them in your opinion, right, no, no, in their opinion. 591 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 4: Might I've never had a lamprey? 592 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: And folks with that, please please please remember that everyone 593 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: is imperfect right and the Again, as we said at 594 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: the top, the course of true love never does run smooth. 595 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: If you are lucky enough to be able to contact 596 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: your father or your mother for that matter, then please 597 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: do so. You don't have to wait for a specific day. 598 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: It happens all the time all around the world. 599 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 3: And can I just make a quick Morrissey ref friends 600 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: Steven though that guy's dead to us. The Smiths are 601 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: not Johnny mar Rules. They have a song called please 602 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 3: Please Please let me get what I want, and I 603 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: would add for Father's. 604 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: Day and again yes, well said, and again you know. 605 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: The thing I want to hit here is that you 606 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: don't need a specific day. The fact that Hollmark has 607 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: commercialized specific times to celebrate a thing does not make 608 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: that celebration itself inherently invalid. We are so glad that 609 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: you hung out with us here. We hope that you 610 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: will tell your dad or tell your kids to tune 611 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: into the show, because every little rating helps us just 612 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: a tad our corporate daddies will occasionally write a good 613 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: letter to us and tell us we won't get fired, 614 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: So please please please help us out. Shout out to 615 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: the Smiths with the caveats that Noel described. Shout out 616 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: as well to our super producer mister Max Williams. Shout 617 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: out to our friends at well Balanced dot com, at 618 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: BuzzFeed and of course at Rosetta Stone and. 619 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 4: Oh Man aj Bahamas Jacobs. 620 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 3: That guy. 621 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: He's a great dad. 622 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 4: By the way, He's just such a minch, you know. 623 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 3: I apparently we're going to be seeing a little more 624 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 3: of him since his son just got into Emory, as 625 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 3: he mentioned last on this show. 626 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: And I think there I saw Instagram post. I think 627 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 2: the cowboy hats. 628 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: Of course, I pitched him an idea, uh for you 629 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: can find Aj on Instagram. 630 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,959 Speaker 4: You can find uh most of us there. 631 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: I pitched an idea for his next book, The Year 632 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: of Living Cowboy. We'll see if it uh, we'll see 633 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: where he goes with it. Also again uh, requisite contractually 634 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: obligated shout out to Jonathan Strickland aka the Quist. 635 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. 636 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a he's a dog dad tibble. He's got 637 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: a little Doug of course, named after a Shakespearean of course. 638 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 3: Of course, we also mentioned the Jonathan Strickland's father wrote 639 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: the Wishbone series for kids. I think that's great and 640 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: also it was a pretty well regarded fantasy and science 641 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: fiction writer. So happy Father's Day to Brad Strickland, right right, 642 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: not Jonathan Jonathan. If you're hearing this, we're shouting out 643 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: your father, not Jonathan's. 644 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 2: No one's father. 645 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 4: Jesus right God. 646 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: I hope it's very clear that we really like Jonathan's. 647 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. 648 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: We actually is the best. 649 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we we text each other pretty often. Actually, A 650 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: big shout out, of course to the rude dudes of 651 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime, to Alex Williams who composed this slap and bop, 652 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: big big shout out to you know, not just the fathers, 653 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: but all the kids in the audience. 654 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 2: And big shout out to the colonel and to you Ben. 655 00:35:53,280 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 2: We'll see you next time, folks. 656 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 3: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 657 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 3: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.