1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: This is a headgum podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, I'm Ago 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Wodhem and welcome to Thanks Dad. I was raised by 3 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: a single mom and I don't have a relationship with 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: my dad, and spoiler, I don't think I'm ever gonna 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: have one with him because he's dead. Yep, He's dead. 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: But that's okay, guys, because on this podcast, I'm sitting 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: down with father figures who are either old enough to 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: be my dad or who are just dads themselves. I'm 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: getting to ask the questions I've always wanted to ask 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: a dad, like how do I know if the guy 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm dating is right for me? Or how do I 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: even change the oil in my car? And can you 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: help me perfect my jump shot? I'm so bad at basketball, 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: maybe because I didn't have a dad. Anyway, let's get 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: into it with my dad for today. My next guest, 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, Today's Emmy Award winning guest from Saturday Night Live, 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Good Burger, The Mighty Ducks, and so much more, so 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: much more. Please welcome my dad for the day, Keenan Thompson. 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: It is a pleasure. 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: I feel like there should be applause. 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: That's can we do? 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? Let's yes, come on, come on, I'm so happy 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: you're here. 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 2: How you doing, I'm good? 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: How are you? 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: I'm great? 27 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: You are you always are great? You always say you're great. 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 2: I'll be trying. 29 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: You're always positive? You do you feel positive most of 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: the time? 31 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I focus on that, you know what I mean. 32 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: I try to focus on the positive or the lessons 33 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: in life, you know what I'm saying. Like it's just 34 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: a good way to like take life as it comes, 35 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: as opposed to like hyperreacting to things. Right, not that 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: I try not to like not feel things or whatever, 37 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: like I feel it, but you know, I also would 38 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: like to feel my journey through getting you know, through 39 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: the pain of it and getting back to the positive, 40 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So like I'm already reaching 41 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: towards the positive way earlier, so it feels like the 42 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: positive comes back sooner. 43 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to ask you because you're so 44 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: he's giggling, because I'm we're going there, Keenan. Are your 45 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: parents positive people? Like optimistic? 46 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean my dad is most definitely at this point. 47 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: He's you know, really religious and like daily affirmative, you 48 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: know what I mean, And like they both raised me 49 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: in like a non denominational kind of truth kind of church, 50 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: which is very like you know, power and spoken word 51 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So I yes, I want to 52 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: say so Like my mom is a little more how 53 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: do I word this? Is like she believes in you 54 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: know what, she doesn't know necessarily, but she's more focused 55 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: on the tangible, you know what I'm saying, Like because 56 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: she has to deal with the tangible more, okay, And 57 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: like my dad can kind of you know, just be 58 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: in the hopeful you know what I mean, in his 59 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: mindset or whatever, and she's very much like yeah that 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: and tackle the day at present hand with my hands. 61 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: You know what, This is what I'm actually facing. This 62 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: is what I can actually control. This is what needs 63 00:02:59,360 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: to be. 64 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: Done right without taking anything from it. Like, yeah, it's 65 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: nice to believe in your imagination, you know, I don't 66 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: want to put it like that, but she definitely is 67 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: much more like focused on like, yeah, these bills are 68 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: here to be paid. 69 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm right, and we can pray about it, 70 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: but okay, the bill still need to be paid and 71 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: Kanad is not going to. 72 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: Take But even in that, it's like they say, like 73 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: prayer without action is a form of you know, wrongdoing 74 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: if you will. 75 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: Because without deeds is dead, right. 76 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: All of that. So it's like you still gotta it's 77 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: in there that you got to do the work still. 78 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: So it's not like you can just hope and dream 79 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: and then you know you get taken away by the 80 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 2: unicorns to the street to go right. While you're here, 81 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: you have to go through life. 82 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: Basically you've been given the ability to do because you're 83 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: meant to. 84 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: Like, I mean, that's the other thing when you talk 85 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: about like how you're doing, it's like, yeah, we're going 86 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: to talk about comparisons. Man, Like when you think of 87 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: like what you're going through that's not necessarily physically hurting 88 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: you or like emotionally hurting you, hurting you, you know 89 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: you can you can add up the pros in your life, 90 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like I like being black, 91 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: I like being American, I like being you know, able 92 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: to walk, I got all my limbses and I'm beloved 93 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: and I'm a child of God and all these things, 94 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So you start reaffirming those things. 95 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: Hopefully that's just started spinning you out of anything negative 96 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: that's happened or you know, been brought up or whatever. 97 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: But easier said than that. 98 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure, absolutely Okay, were your parents people who foster 99 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: community or like, were people always over because I'm like, 100 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: I feel like that's also inherent to you or not 101 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: sort of thing to be like, I'm going to be 102 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: remain close to people, are super connected to people. 103 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were communal, Like you know, they both come 104 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: from My mom comes from you know, she's the oldest 105 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: of seven, I know what I'm saying. And my dad 106 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: was like a middle child of three. But they're extended, 107 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: Like his mom and dad had a lot of kids 108 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: and like or cousins or brothers and siblings stuff with it. 109 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: So they come from big families. And then we had 110 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: a lot of cousins me and my brother growing up, 111 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: and then like I have my sister when she came 112 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: along later in life and stuff like that. So I 113 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: think us not being on a level of like time 114 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: sharing kind of thing to where you want to do 115 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: a lot of like out of town vacation. All of 116 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: our vacations growing up were like back home, back to 117 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: their hometown kind of thing. 118 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So like you're both of your parents are from Virginia, right, Okay, 119 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: are they still together? 120 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: They are not? Okay, divorced when I was. 121 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: Like twelve, when you were twelve? Was that hard or 122 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: was it fine for you? My parents got divorced when 123 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: I was a baby, So I'm like, I yeah. 124 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: Like anytime I think past the age of you being 125 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: able to remember, which is like three years old, you 126 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, it's tough. Tough. 127 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, did you you remain close to your dad though. 128 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: I'm close with both of them. 129 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: You're close with both of them? What's your dad like? 130 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: He's like, I know, religious? Is it Christian? Or is 131 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: it not quite that. 132 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: It is Christian? Like they both grew up Baptist, but 133 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: the church that they went to was a lady who 134 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: grew a Baptist that started a non denominational church. Okay, cool, 135 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: but very very Baptist, you know, adjacent okay, will as 136 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: far as the music, you know what I'm saying, but 137 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: still preaching from the Bible as well, you know what 138 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: I mean. But also like using the words and like 139 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: finding the truth in the story as opposed to the metaphors, 140 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like instead of the metaphoric version, 141 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: it's like, what is the actual truth like what are 142 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: you actually capable of doing kind of thing? Like some 143 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: people do have healing properties, some people have sight, so 144 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: you know, like real like real talking. It's not necessarily sypeless, 145 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 2: a feeling of or you know, a voice that says, 146 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, I witness some wild shit 147 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: or in that. 148 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: Church you did. 149 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, early on, like early on, you know, our preacher 150 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: had this lady come who's like from Trinidada, and she 151 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: was just laying hands on people and laying people out, 152 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And watched my mom get 153 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 2: laid out, you know what I'm saying. She just put 154 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: her hands on her and like she just fell out. 155 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: And I was like, once I saw it happened to 156 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: my mom, I was like, Yo, what's that right? What happened? 157 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: She was like, I was like for real, She was like, yeah, 158 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: I just passed out. 159 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: Like wow, because your mom is I want to say 160 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: miss saying is not as she's not going to buy 161 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: in she but yeah, so when it when it happened 162 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: to her, You're like, hold on because it. 163 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: Was immediate, you know what I mean, Like how it 164 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: would be like on the televangelist. But this lady was 165 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: really like speaking about people's futures and things like that. 166 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: Like she put her hands on my chest and she 167 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: was like, careful with your chest kind of thing in 168 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: the future. Whatever. Mm hmm, it's interesting, careful with your lungs. 169 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: She said, what do you take that to have meant? Then? 170 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't really know. Like sometimes it 171 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: can be like influential, you know what I'm saying, to 172 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: where it could have let me down, like, oh, what's 173 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: going on with my lungs? And like, am I going 174 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: to be a smoker later on in life? And like 175 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: having those thoughts ingrained early maybe could have led me 176 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: towards the path. Maybe, But at the same time, you know, 177 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: we're at where we're at kind of thing. And she 178 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily wrong to be cautious of. 179 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, So then when it happened to your mom, 180 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: you were like, Okay, I believe this, Yeah, I believe 181 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: this is real because my mom is the practical one. 182 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I can't vouch for all the mother strangers. 183 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: They're adults, you know what I'm saying. And like I 184 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: was ninish the eightish ninish, and I'm watching all this 185 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: happen and it was a night service too, was like 186 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 2: an off time, you know what I'm saying. It wasn't 187 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: like the normal Sunday afternoon. It was like an evening things. 188 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: It was like a private gathering of voodooism. Was like, 189 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: was she wearing all what they're doing magic? 190 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: The woman? 191 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: No, she was very simply dressed. And she was a 192 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: little lady, you know, I mean that's what I remember. 193 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: But she was a little powerful. 194 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: Okay. Did your dad branch off from like the Baptist 195 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: church to this non denominational one because there were things 196 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: about the Baptist church he wasn't messing with or was 197 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: it something about the woman who started the church? 198 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: It was the lady that started the church, I think. 199 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 2: And the locale because when they first moved to Atlanta, 200 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: I think they were looking for a church home kind 201 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: of thing, and that helped them like learn the community 202 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: basically from being out of town thing. 203 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: Okay, And he still goes to church and your dad okay, 204 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: I think, so okay, And okay, so how would you 205 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: so he's just religious? What else would you say? It's 206 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: true of his general persona personality. 207 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: He likes to talk, okay, because he feels like he's 208 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: seen a lot, learned a lot. He wants to share it, 209 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 2: but very giving, you know, and yeah, we have more 210 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: like a sibling kind of bond point kind of thing. 211 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: Okay, you say you now at this point, but like 212 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: was it always like that or did you feel. 213 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 2: Like, Okay, it was father son dynamic for sure. Okay, 214 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It wasn't, you know, the 215 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: opposite until much later, not in my adulthood. 216 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: Okay, well do you think it was like after you 217 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: had your own kids or something or before. 218 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: It was before that, but like it was when I 219 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: was starting to be like the most financial stable person 220 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: around basically kind of thing, and it was like in 221 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: my like mid to late twenties kind of thing. 222 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you guys always get along? 223 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah no, I mean like Pops was always cool. Yeah, 224 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: you know, like whatever happened is like between them and 225 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: for them to have to work out, but like he 226 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: never came in me sabways. 227 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm always like because my parents got divorced so young, 228 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: and I've seen how divorce later has affected some of 229 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: my best childhood friends or like their parents getting divorced 230 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: when they were like ten, or their parents getting divorced 231 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: when they're like fourteen, I'm like, what is that experience, 232 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: like in your experience where you're like, he never came 233 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: at me any kind of way, do you? Were you 234 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: able even at that age should just be like whatever 235 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: went on with them is what went on with them, 236 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: and my relationship with each of them is a separate thing. 237 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: Like were you did you have the wherewithal at that 238 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: age to feel that and recognize that. 239 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, because like every day we were still around, you 240 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like we y'all still went to 241 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: the same church and like my dad, you know, met 242 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: my sister's mom at the church. Like I knew my 243 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: sister's mom before they started dating kind of thing, you 244 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it was all very like close, 245 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 2: maybe too close, but it was close. So it was 246 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: never like a distant thing. It was just like he 247 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: lived somewhere else in Atlanta now kind of thing, you 248 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, And like he's around and like 249 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 2: I'll see him like when I see him kind of thing, 250 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: but you know I live at home or whatever. Yeah, 251 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: So like it wasn't a lot of like a couple 252 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: of days over here, a couple of days over there. 253 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: All the time. It's like I live at home and 254 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: I see him and spend the night maybe you know. 255 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: But then I was also like, by the time he 256 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: remarried and was like raising my sisters, like getting towards 257 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 2: like later years in high school kind of things, I 258 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 2: don't really be spending the night anywhere anyway, you know 259 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it wasn't really like a whole 260 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: lot of like kicking it time until I was already 261 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: like out of the house kind of thing. And then 262 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: I would like, you know, choose to spend my time 263 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 2: with whoever right kind of thing. 264 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: What kind of stuff would you guys do when you 265 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: did kick it in your dad? 266 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: Just hanging out talking watching sports or something, or like 267 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: we went to the super Bowl when I was in Atlanta, 268 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like that kind of relationship. 269 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: I have started this podcast because I'm I had male 270 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: figures in my life, so I don't feel Someone asked me, Mike. 271 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: He asked me. He was like, do you feel like 272 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: you missed out? And I go, that's a question I 273 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: asked myself all the time, but not all the time. 274 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: I've asked myself I should say, and I'm like, I 275 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: don't really like, I really feel like I lived a 276 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: full life. 277 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: You've lived the life that you've lived, you know what 278 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, it doesn't necessarily have voids unless you 279 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: look at them as voids kind of thing, you know 280 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So if it wasn't a void for you, 281 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: then it's just been like not the life you've lived 282 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: is good. Good on you, like if you feel good 283 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: in it. 284 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: Kind of That's what I was alluding to too, is 285 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: that I'm like, I feel like I've lived the life 286 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: that I've lived, but seeing movies and TV shows suggest 287 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: because I feel like movies and TV shows are quite 288 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: powerful and that maybe does not sound profound in any way, 289 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: and it's maybe basic and rudimentary, but I'm like they 290 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: are quite powerful when you talk about your dad and 291 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: like the affirmations and like what you see and what 292 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: you choose to believe. So point is i'd see like 293 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: it's like you're supposed to be so fraught and torn 294 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: up about not having a dad, but I don't feel 295 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: that way. And I didn't feel that way. 296 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: Because I feel like it's not it's different for you 297 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: because nothing was necessarily torn from you. You know what 298 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: I'm saying, like you hadn't built up this whole bank 299 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: of memories and then all of a sudden they have 300 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: to be different now, Like for you, it was just 301 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: like on the one path the whole time kind of thing, 302 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like did you have did 303 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: your mom like remarry or she did to. 304 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: Remarry, but I have a lot of uncles. She's one 305 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: of nine. She didn't remarry, but I have a lot 306 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: of uncles. I have two older brothers, I have my faith, 307 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, I just when you had to. 308 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: Like explain to people like where your dad might may 309 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: or may not be, do you remember feeling a certain 310 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: kind of way about it now? 311 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I'm like, I don't think anyone 312 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: really asked, Like if I'm really pausing to think about it, 313 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think anyone really asked, almost like 314 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: it was like understood. Like I remember going to college 315 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: and a friend being like, it might beat the root 316 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: of some troubles, And I'm like, I guess, low hanging. 317 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: What kind of troubles? Right? What is reflective of like 318 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: not really knowing what you're missing? 319 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: Right? That's my thing. I was like, if you want 320 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: to believe that because I know you've seated in movies 321 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: and on TV shows. That's really fine. I actually had 322 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: a therapist a few years ago, so in twenty twenty, 323 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: and she was so like the dad thing, the dad thing. 324 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: And I had to tell her after like three sessions, 325 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, so the dad thing. I was like, 326 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: it's not that. 327 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: I just don't yes, I don't really think we're getting 328 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: anywhere focusing on that. Literally what it is? 329 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,359 Speaker 1: That? Literally yes? And I said, hey, if we organically, 330 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: over time working together discover ah, the dad thing, fine, 331 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: but you like I was like, that's not the real 332 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: So two years of working together, I will say. 333 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: Well, that's what it is. 334 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: It's the dead. 335 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: That's the problem. 336 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: Your stomach hurts is the dead thing. And so I 337 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: had to. 338 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: Tell you like the first five questions of knowing somebody, 339 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: so like all your parents again, it's like, oh, there 340 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: it is in which one do you think you're closer to? 341 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,239 Speaker 2: My mom currently spent most of that well then everything. 342 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: Your days because of the dead. 343 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: But people do that, that's not a professional. 344 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: I also think this is a hot take. I don't 345 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: think this is maybe too hot. I think there's a 346 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: good number of therapists that aren't good. Is that hot? 347 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: Take it? 348 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: I didn't name names. I'm not naming names. 349 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: I just think it's people you got to be like 350 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: any industry people that are like yeah, right, some people 351 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: are just like getting by for sure. 352 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: And then people are going to therapy because it's this 353 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: big thing to go to therapy. It's a big, huge thing, 354 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: and it's so vulnerable, and your hope is that you're 355 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: not like bouncing around from therapist to therapists because it's 356 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: already a big deal that you made up your mind 357 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: to go. So I think some therapists are getting by 358 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: on like yeah, they signed up for therapy, and I 359 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: don't have to be that good. I don't like I 360 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: get to be okay at my say. 361 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: Say nothing. 362 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: Am I wrong? Kean, You're not wrong, but you're not 363 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: saying anything. 364 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: But I think it's it's it's you know, it's crazy. 365 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: There's a lot of therapy going on these days. It 366 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: might you know, I know people that have like watched 367 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: closely go to therapy and then like after a while 368 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: they be like still feeling like stage one in here. 369 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, really getting too 370 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: far with ship that I already didn't kind of know, 371 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 372 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: So it's like, and sometimes they're great, by the way, 373 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: sometimes they are great, but I think there's a lot 374 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: of that going on. So I'm told this woman, I 375 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: was like, I don't think it's that, but if we 376 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: get there over we work together and you go, Okay, 377 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: but a go. Now that I know all of this 378 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: information context and we've been working together for some time, 379 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: I really feel strongly it's the dead thing, right, Okay, 380 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: we do two years together and at the end of 381 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: the two years, as we were having our like okay, 382 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: it's time to part ways, she was like, I just 383 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: also want to say thank you for not letting me 384 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: go with the low hanging fruit. And that's what I 385 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: called it when we first started working together. And I 386 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 1: was like, you keep on with this dad thing. But 387 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: she was like, I appreciate. She's like, actually, don't think 388 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: that's your problem. 389 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: I know. 390 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: I was like, I know, I tried to tell you, 391 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what my problem is, but I'm gonna 392 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: tell you it's not that. Like it it's definitely not that. Yeah, 393 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: the client, yes, And I feel like a lot of 394 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: therapy is retraining people to trust their own voice and 395 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: instinct and gut, because so much in life has caused 396 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: people to stray from their own instincts and guts. 397 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean there's a level of like instruction 398 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: to it, you know what I mean. And some people 399 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: not that you don't know these things already, but you 400 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: might need to be reminded to focus on for sure. 401 00:17:50,400 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 402 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: Were there lessons that your dad taught you though that 403 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: you that really stick with you to this day? 404 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, in intent and non intent, you know what I mean? Right, Like, 405 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: learning from observance is a very powerful thing that I've 406 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's nothing that I'm good at it, 407 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 2: it's just like what I do. I'm a very observant 408 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: kind of person. I think It's why I'm somewhat of 409 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: an impressionist kind of thing, because you know, I just 410 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: take on these things that I notice. Yeah, but yeah, 411 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: he's taught me a lot, Like he's taught me a 412 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: lot of you know, how to be a man, how 413 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 2: to be a wise person, how to be a you know, 414 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: a good stand up this that you know, my father 415 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: kind of a business person and just like just like 416 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: a solid like part of the brotherhood as well, you 417 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, you know, I take being 418 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 2: black very seriously, and you know, a lot of people 419 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: might misconstrue it because I try to push past the boundaries. 420 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: That SML kind of thing, right, and they might make 421 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 2: it seem like I might be whitewashed, whitewash or something 422 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 2: like that. But it's kind of the exact opposite of that. 423 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: I was trying to like uplift and project forward. 424 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: Always kind of understand. But it's also I just want 425 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: to say, you're just working at us now, and I 426 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: don't have to tell you this, right, but I get 427 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: to now after six seasons, have my own insight about 428 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: the place. But you'll never understand if you've never worked there, right, 429 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: You just want you just there's you can read all this. 430 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: Everybody's journey is specific too, you know what I'm saying. 431 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: Like it's weird, like we are both African American, but 432 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: at the same time, like my journey is not yours. Man, 433 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: like my sense of humor and like it's it's similar, 434 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: you know, but it's also I emphasize certain errors that 435 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: you might not necessarily emphasize, you know what I mean, 436 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: You're also younger, and this, that and the other. So 437 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: everybody's path is just like organically going to be different. 438 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: But you service the show very well, you know what 439 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: I mean. Like I know it's like a land mine, 440 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But like you the person 441 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: and you the talent, like you're gifted. Man, Like I imitate 442 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 2: you so much because it impresses on me. You're like 443 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: you have such a different style and sound and sense. 444 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: It's great. 445 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, Keenan. That means a lot to me coming 446 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: from you, because I also it's a challenging place and 447 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: seeing how you've navigated it and remembering like there's Wednesdays 448 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: after table read where I go, Man, I wonder what 449 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: it was like for Keenan seventeen years ago. Though here's 450 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: just Keenan like going through it. 451 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: Right. 452 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: I see Keenan now, and that's the easy thing to do. 453 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: And this is in life. It's crazy. But I'm like, 454 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: I see you now, right, You're twenty twenty four at 455 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: table read, and I'm like, I see the time you're having, 456 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: I see what your Saturday looks like. I see the 457 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: respect you're given that you beyond deserve, And it would 458 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: be very easy for me to go, oh, man, I 459 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: just that's I want that, right, But I have to 460 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: remember and I advise people too, where I'm like, that's 461 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: not always been Keenan's experience. Keenan has not always had 462 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: that experience. Keenan has had probably some worse experience than 463 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: we've even had. And I'm like, and everyone's journey is different, 464 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: but it's easy to like look at where someone is 465 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: today right now and not even consider what their path 466 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: might have been and what challenges they might have faced. 467 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: So it means a lot to me to hear that 468 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: coming from you, and you're always very complimentary and generous. 469 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: It's real and like I can't fake it, you know 470 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: what I mean. Like it's like what comedy is, like 471 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: is the joke funny or not? Period? You know what 472 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 2: I'm saying. If it doesn't get a laugh, that just 473 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: told you. You know what I'm saying, Like there is 474 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: no imagewen, So like I don't have to like big 475 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: you up with fakes, you know what. 476 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying at all, I'm not getting any laughs. Kids, 477 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: Like she's great, a massive. 478 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: Amount of work that's made it on the show. Forget 479 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: about what hasn't you know what I'm saying, which is 480 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: eight times that, you know what I'm saying, Like brilliant 481 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: shit at the table on Wednesday, you know what i mean. 482 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: It's just like swing take taking swings. Yeah, and you 483 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 2: can see that this is going to be a continuous 484 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: thing for a person, kind of thing like early you 485 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And then it's nice to be 486 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: able to like watch it play out kind of like 487 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: in a positive like you said, you finished six seasons. 488 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: Like some people, you know what i mean, get the one, 489 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 2: some people get the three, some people get to four 490 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: and a half. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know, 491 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: shout out to Punky and Molly. I'm gonna miss that. 492 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss that. I'm going to be in there 493 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: a long time. You watch people come and go, you 494 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So you have to like deal 495 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: with the party of friendships and kind of things, the 496 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: morning of the loss of like certain people's presence and 497 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: all that. So it's so there's a lot of bittersweet 498 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: to it, you know what i mean. Like we've had 499 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: crew members die, you know, like all kinds of shit. 500 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: So it's a heavier thing than just like shit is 501 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: sweet for me because I've been there a long time. 502 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can I can only imagine, honestly, I have 503 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: a like an immense I've never I don't know if 504 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: I've told you, because we don't. I don't know, but 505 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for you and what 506 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: you do at the show, and bigger than all of that, 507 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: which I just had a conversation with someone yesterday about this, 508 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: the thing that really matters here to me in my opinion, 509 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: and the thing I admire and respect about people that 510 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: at SNL, for people that I do have a lot 511 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: of respect for, is the way you show up and 512 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: the way you treat people. You know, I'm not I'm 513 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: not pointed to anyone individual, but there's a sort of 514 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: like everyone feels kind of tired and worn down, and 515 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: we do work these crazy hours. So I empathize with 516 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: that and I've experienced that, right, But you choose to 517 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: be positive and you choose to be kind, and you 518 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: seem you continue to seem like you have gratitude for 519 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: the position you are in in life and in at 520 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: the show, and it's it's unique unto you, honestly in 521 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: that way. And so I don't know that I've said it, 522 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: but it makes a lot of a lot, a lot, 523 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot, a lot of difference. 524 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: Now I appreciate that I've heard you say you know, 525 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: versions of that, of course, but at the same time, 526 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 2: you know, it's almost too much to focus on, you 527 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, to like focus on how big 528 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: the show is, or focus on my impact on others 529 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: kind of like that. It's just that will start to 530 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 2: bring to stress, you know what I'm saying, because like 531 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: whenever I ran up against it's very like deflating to 532 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: me the hero that's like shitty, right, I. 533 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: Know, And let me tell you what, in my little 534 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: time at SNL, I'm like, oh, damn, well, that sucks. 535 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: Number one, thank you for saying that. But like number 536 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: two is like, man, I don't really understand why people 537 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: aren't like that same. 538 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: But the reality is, at the end of the day, 539 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: we're not all like that. And so I want you 540 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: to know that it is not lost on us, and 541 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: it's certainly not lost on me. Just you are consistent. 542 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: You are consistent, and I couldn't pay a higher compliment 543 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: in terms of like just a solid kind presence. And 544 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: I have the utmost respect for you for that, because 545 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be that way, and there would 546 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: always be grace if you didn't show up that way, 547 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: because that place is hard and people have things going 548 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: on in their personal lives, et cetera. But you still 549 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: show up the way you do. You said something to me, 550 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: Keenan about your dad teaching you how to be a 551 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: man when you were like, these are the things I 552 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: learned from him, whether intentionally or unintentionally or just by observation. 553 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: Fascinating topic to me a woman, even if I wasn't 554 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: a woman. I just to ago, honestly, what did you 555 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: learn from him about how to be a man? Like, 556 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm so curious what it means because it's such a 557 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: that definition feels like variable for people. 558 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I feel like the dynamic was pretty 559 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 2: traditional there. They both worked, but he didn't really cook 560 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: like that. His cooking was a lot more random. So 561 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: like the providing of nourishment and nurture seemed to come 562 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: from my mom's side, which is like very traditional kind 563 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: of thing. And then yeah, we would throw football so 564 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: or we would work on cars, or we would talk 565 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: about you know, comedy, like the way we talked about 566 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: comedy was different, Like my mom was a little more 567 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: like teh Ish with comedy, and he was much more 568 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: like let's talk about aide Murphy and our senior and 569 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: like what they're doing the link where I learned my 570 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: usual like traditional kind of black man sense of humor 571 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: from and like so like that's where being a provider 572 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: and like all that kind of the side of being 573 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 2: a man kind of thing was what he was, Like 574 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: cut your hand, you just go fix it, you don't 575 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: really cry kind of thing. But also like you know, 576 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: the fear of God, the power of the spoken word, 577 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 2: the power of lessons, you know, because that's what the 578 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: Bible kind of is a book of whether you believe 579 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: it's stories or if you just even if it is stories, 580 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 2: take the lessons from it kind of thing. Both can 581 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: be valuable and helpful. So like a lot of people, 582 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 2: you refer to it as a tool or a sword, 583 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it's just equipping you 584 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: with some sort of weaponry that like combat life, you 585 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. On a day of day, right, 586 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: and you know how to like own your own business 587 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 2: or being your own man or whatever, shoot guns, protect 588 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: your family and your loved ones. Don't take no shit, 589 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, watch out for the wolves. 590 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: That's that seemed like sheep or whatever, kind of like 591 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: all those kind of lessons. 592 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, one day I found myself in years past and 593 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm actively trying to be like, don't, don't, don't do that. 594 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: But I said something that I was like, I wanted 595 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: to get ahead of any like sort of like, oh, well, 596 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: that's an outdated way of viewing the world. So we 597 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: were on the floor. I think it's my second season, 598 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: and I don't know what exactly we were talking about. 599 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: It is like me, you and another cast member were waiting, 600 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: well to do blocking, We're waiting for the control room 601 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: to be ready, and I said something like again, I 602 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: can't remember what we're talking about, but I go, I know, 603 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: I know, but like not that dads have to protect 604 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: their daughters because that's outdated. And you go, well, if 605 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: they're not like they should be, and he's like, they're not, 606 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: what are they? What are they doing? And I the 607 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: reason I remember it partially is because I one was like, 608 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: I do agree with you, and then too is because 609 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: I go, why did every once in a while say 610 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 1: a thing to be like let me get like, I 611 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: know this is not the progressive thing to say, so 612 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I know, I know it's not like 613 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: the man protecting his daughter, right, but that's not actually 614 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: what I believe, right, And then you said and I 615 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I mean that's actually what I believe. Yeah, 616 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: what is it mean to you to protect your daughters? 617 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: I mean, forget about it, you know what I'm saying, 618 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: Like people don't want to find out. 619 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: So the answer to that one is fuck around and 620 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: find out. 621 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't even don't even bother. You know, I'm because 622 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: it's like they're so precious and I've watched them from 623 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: their most innocent moment, you know what I'm saying. So 624 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: to me, anything that's going to like garner my reaction, 625 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: they definitely didn't deserve, you know what I'm saying. So 626 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: it's like, don't even think about it. Seriously when it 627 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 2: comes to a child. It's like anybody that would like 628 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: watch a situation where someone who's bigger than the other 629 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: is getting taken advantage, you know what I mean, Like 630 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: the smaller person to getting taken advantage of a situation. 631 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: Look at that's not fair, you know what I mean. 632 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: So you would step in and like like maybe I 633 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: don't have to be the one to feeld shoes, but 634 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: let me like find somebody your size, homie, and like 635 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: maybe y'all can go at the kind of thing as 636 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: opposed to this dynamic. Right, So you know what, it's 637 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: as long as a child's not a dick, it's they're 638 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: probably going through something that they don't really know how 639 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: to get to their like decent self, you know what 640 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Because they are a child and they're like whatever. 641 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: You know, like the way they're acting is probably not 642 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: we know, it's not the way it was meant to be. 643 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: Because you know, hopefully if you're born into like even 644 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: America kind of thing, you know, like the hopes is 645 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: life can be beautiful, you know what I'm saying. Like 646 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: you got a lot of opportunity here just having a 647 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: US passport, you know, like as in like broad overstroke 648 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: of life being an American. Like of course we have 649 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: our food deserts and things like that. You know, financial 650 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, huge gaps and you know wealth disparities or whatever. 651 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: But you know, the ideology is like it's better here 652 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: than a lot of places, right, right, so you try 653 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: to focus on that being more so the want of 654 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: the reality of a child. But even though if they're 655 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: misbehaving or whatever, still they should have the mentality that 656 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: you can overcome these moments kind of thing. So when 657 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: people are like trying to take advantage of them or 658 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: harm them in any sort of way, it's hyper egregious, right, 659 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: which garnishes need to react, however, gates to like any 660 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: reaction that I want, and it's like, why would you 661 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: want to do that? You should just avoid doing that. 662 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: But some people are sick. 663 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true. I mean, I appreciate the 664 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: perspective of it's that level of love and protection that 665 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: you feel for not only your children, but children in 666 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: general or vulnerable populations. I saw a quote that said 667 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: there are everyone children are everyone's children and something. I'm 668 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: bastardizing it, but like to that effect, and I'm like, 669 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: that is. 670 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: Beautiful, yeah, because I feel like if that weren't the case, 671 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be so hard to raise a child by themselves, 672 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. By yourself, by themselves, you 673 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it really is so much 674 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: better with a village, you know what I mean? 675 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: You when I talk about getting raised when I'm like 676 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: my family, right, people some people like misquote me like 677 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: her parents, and I go, I said, my family. So 678 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: I have my mom, and I have all my aunts 679 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: and uncles and my big brothers who don't play about, and. 680 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 2: Your play on and uncles, and you and your mentors 681 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: and your teachers, and your your your community and you 682 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: know beyond. So like I feel like, you know, I 683 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: was raised by my parents, but I was also raised 684 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: by their friends, teachers, mentors, society, and then Atlanta and 685 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: then you know, America on top of you know what 686 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: I mean, all these things. 687 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: Kind of right, I'm curious because you said also something 688 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: about your dad about like if you cut your hand, 689 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: you don't cry, just fix it. Did you feel like 690 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,239 Speaker 1: which that sounds very traditional. I also feel like the 691 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: generation that I'm straddling is one that is sort of like, 692 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: get yourself together, don't show emotion, We're not particularly vulnerable. 693 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: And then this newer generation that feels more in tune 694 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: and in touch and expressive concerning emotions. 695 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, and it wasn't necessarily like stifling emotion. 696 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I. 697 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: Think like to me, like when I tell my girls, 698 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: like stop crying, you know what I mean, Because they're 699 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: like going on and on about something and like it 700 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: feels like the moment has passed for them to like 701 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: cry and like get past it or whatever. So then 702 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, y'all. 703 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: Are just dwelling, indulging maybe yeah, And that's. 704 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: When I'm like, especially when the little one starts going 705 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: in and she's just like whining, you know what I'm saying, Like, 706 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, we don't do the whining thing, you know 707 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because like I feel like my perspective 708 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: is preparing them for things that may come along that 709 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: are like way more serious in what's happening her thing, 710 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: not to like diminish how they feel about a specific 711 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: thing in the moment, but also like give a little 712 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: bit of perspective of like, this isn't the end all, 713 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: be all thing the way you're acting like it is, 714 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, so you can really just 715 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: move past it. And like the way I watched them 716 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: like change their mind and whole attitude and all of that, 717 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, so, so, what was your parents so much 718 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 2: about it in the first place kind of thing I'm saying, 719 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: right right, So when my Pops was like that. I 720 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: feel like he was preparing us for things that might 721 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: be much worse than like a nick Yeah, you know 722 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like shit is real and he's seen 723 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: versions of that growing up through the fifties and sixties 724 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: and seventies kind of thing and all that kind of thing. 725 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: Did he ever share anecdotes from his life with you? 726 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: Because you're saying he likes to talk, that's like his thing. 727 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: And much more later on because earlier in life he 728 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: was busy, you know, so we didn't have a lot 729 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: of like one on one time to just sit and 730 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: chat kind of thing. But like when I was older, 731 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: you know, he started like running down you know, because 732 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 2: our time would just be like, okay, we got two 733 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: hours to really just like kick it, you know what 734 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So he'll spend that time just like telling 735 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: me all these stories. So I recently found out that 736 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: he grew up with like an outhouse and shit like that, 737 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: and he used to get stomach aches because he was 738 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: scared to use it. This is a Virginia get really 739 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: cold in the wintertime, So I'm thinking, like, you know, 740 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: outhouse for real, it's like every day, all day it's 741 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: not like every outhouse like in the winter or in 742 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: the summertime when it's nights. It's like, well, that's how 743 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 2: you do that thing. You we do every day. 744 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: Every day of multiple times a day, and I drink 745 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: a lot of water and I'm like, I go to 746 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: the bathroom. I feel like he used to have. 747 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: Like stomach aches and shit like that because he never 748 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: wanted to go because he was scared of snakes or whatever, 749 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: and the snakes would be in there maybe sometimes maybe, 750 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: but like no light and also in the cold, you 751 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And that put a whole lot 752 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 2: in perspective because I've always looked at him as like 753 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 2: a modern dude, Like, you know, this town he grew 754 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: up in, he grew up in the town. My mom 755 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 2: is the one that grew up in the woods. You 756 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Her family's in the woods, like 757 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: in the fields and blah blah blah, and they're the 758 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,959 Speaker 2: ones would accepted tanks. Yeah, you know, when I would 759 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: visit my dad's like childhood home, they had like a 760 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 2: sewer system, you know in place. Okay, So I never 761 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 2: knew he had grown up with an outhouse like the 762 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: previous version right, that shit was. 763 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: Crazy wow, And I'm just like trying to imagine. I'm 764 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: sorry because now I'm stuck. I'm like, he had an 765 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: outhouse and he would get stomach aged beaus he didn't 766 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: want to go and expressing that vulnerability to you. I 767 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: was thinking recently about optimism, adopting optimism, but like, if 768 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: I can make myself believe that everything is going to 769 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: work out exactly how I want it to work out, 770 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: or even better than I can imagine, and then perhaps 771 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: from time to time i'm disappointed because it doesn't measure 772 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: up to that. I'm like, but what it does for 773 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: my mind to think positively, there's no real loss in 774 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: that to like, cause things are going to turn out 775 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: sort of how they might, but there's a potential for 776 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: you to change the course of how they turn out 777 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: just by thinking positively. But also the like, it's such 778 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 1: a better place for your mind to be than being 779 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: like I'm preparing for the worst or for an undesirable outburst. 780 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like de nihil. I'm not naive, you 781 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'm gullible, but I'm not naive. 782 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, You're gible, very very very like, 783 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 2: I'll believe whatever story is until it's like, wait, really crazy, 784 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 2: But which. 785 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: One of your parents is gullible? Because I'm always like 786 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: I feel like we get it all from somewhere. 787 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: My mom because she's such a book nerd. She's just 788 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: like in her own like world too. When someone like 789 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: says something to her, like she just assuming it's going 790 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 2: to be the truth because you were distracting her from 791 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 2: what she's doing. 792 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, it's like, okay, so you. 793 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: Play with somebody like pull me out of what I'm 794 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: doing to like tell me lies. 795 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? That's what I want to talk to 796 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: her about because that's what I have questions about that 797 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: by now you put out of what I'm doing to. 798 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 2: Just going through life like just on my daily like 799 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 2: blank mindedness. You know what I'm saying, Like it's a 800 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: nice day, Like what do I have to do? Work wise? 801 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: What do I not have to do? It's a free moment. Great, 802 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 2: I'm not already thinking about nothing. 803 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: And so I can tell you any wants. 804 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 2: To come up to me and start telling me shit, Yeah, 805 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 2: if they're super stranger, there's walls up. But if it's 806 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 2: somebody I know, it'll take me a while to figure 807 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 2: out if they're doing a bit or not. 808 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: Okay, do you wish you were less scullable? 809 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: No? Okay, wonder like expecting kind of not expecting anything, 810 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: you know what. I love just like hearing and reacting 811 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 2: kind of thing, as opposed to like always being like, 812 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: you know, having a sarcasm kind of filter up, you know, 813 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: just to try to like is this sarcasm and catching 814 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 2: it like too quickly yeah, yeah, you know, or quickly 815 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: enough kind of thing you don't care. Like, no, I'm 816 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 2: not really like investing in like other people shit, you know, 817 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 2: and until it starts affecting me. So it's like you're 818 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 2: telling me a story and like that's affected me, so 819 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: like where is this story going? You know what I'm saying. 820 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 2: If it's not going nowhere, I'm like, okay, so you 821 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: were playing with me. I never know when people are playing. 822 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't land very well because I don't react like 823 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 2: oh that was amazing, blah blah blah. You know what 824 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 2: I'm saying. I'm always just like cool, Well, do you 825 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 2: have anything for real you want to say? Because that 826 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: would be nice. I have awkward interactions with people all 827 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 2: the time. They come up here doing bits and I'm like, 828 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 2: always on some real shit. 829 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing about you if that's the 830 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: reaction to it, is like, oh, you were playing okay? 831 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: Are you going okay? Because at that point you're a 832 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: little annoyed that they were playing with you, because you 833 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: know you could give them a fake. You could give 834 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: them a fake. 835 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: Like I'm annoyed by the situation because I know I'm 836 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: not that guy and they don't know that I'm not 837 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 2: that guy, and I have to introduce them to that, 838 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 2: and it's always terrible because they're expecting me to be 839 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 2: just the like joking joking, how have that kind of 840 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 2: shit on my mind constantly or whatever? And I rarely 841 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: do I. 842 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: Feel similarly, even like when I I think I did 843 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: my first late night show appearance. I came in, I 844 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: went back to work. I think I was on Seth 845 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: Myers and I came to you and you were like, oh, ho, 846 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: I was it? And I was like, I don't know. 847 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,479 Speaker 1: I guess I'm supposed to be joking all the time. 848 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: I was like like it was Seth, no problem of sess. 849 00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, I think I'm supposed to 850 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 1: be joking at all times. But I'm a pretty earnest person, 851 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: like because I. 852 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 2: Think I get tired of it, you know what I mean. 853 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 2: It's the same way I try not to do too 854 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: much joking around Lorn that's not prepared, yeah, because he's 855 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 2: heard so many jokes. And it's like if you're just 856 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: taking swings, you can see the frustration on people's fates 857 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 2: and they just like get this interested in walk away. 858 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm nipping that in. 859 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: The butt enough. It's funny because now that you're just 860 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: saying that there is someone who I feel like tries 861 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: to do a bit with me that I'm not in on, 862 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's not if you are. I'm like, 863 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm not in on it. And I'm like, here's my thing. 864 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, who's the audience? Who's the audience that I 865 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 1: don't see because it's just me and you in an interaction. 866 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 2: Also, people forget that they might be strangers, you know 867 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And like a stranger is a real thing, 868 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like I don't really go like, 869 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, there's crazy people in the world, you know 870 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So you can't just assume everybody's like 871 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: living above board. Yeah, like they should be, you know 872 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 2: what I mean. So like it's not my fault that 873 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 2: I didn't catch the joke, because like I'll be ready 874 00:39:59,280 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: to swing on my. 875 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: Fucker and I was about to. It's like pumped. I 876 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: would have loved to see you on. 877 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 2: We were talking about that two days ago. Like guys, 878 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: I think I felt like they were targeting people that 879 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 2: were doing patternistic behaviors, but also kind of like high 880 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 2: signing a little bit since I wasn't moving like that, 881 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 2: they didn't really have a reason that like pumped me, 882 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 883 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: Give me go back and see the list of people 884 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: they pumped. 885 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 2: I think. 886 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: I think there's some validity. 887 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 2: Like a lot of them like were set up by 888 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 2: their reps and ship, and I felt like my reps 889 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 2: knew not to play with me like that. 890 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: You know what it is. You've been doing comedies for 891 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: so long. 892 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 2: Person, you know what I'm saying. But at the same time, 893 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 2: like I had to learn the lesson. I used to 894 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 2: be very comfortable with people, Like I remember I was 895 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 2: like crossing the line with TC. There's real name, Rest 896 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: in Peace, but he played TC on MATN m P 897 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 2: I and I kept tapping him on the shoulder. I 898 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 2: was like, my man, TC, my man. I kept tapping 899 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 2: his shoulder because he was a big dude, and I 900 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 2: was like yeah. He was like, hey man, stop touching me. 901 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 2: I was. I worked to twelve fourteen, you know what 902 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 2: I mean, you're like really young. Yeah, And he was 903 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 2: like really, like got serious with the child. 904 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: It was like, start touching. 905 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 2: It was like, oh, wow, there are boundaries in line. Wow. 906 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: Is that something you think like it would be important 907 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: to you to teach your girls. 908 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 2: I think what I should teach my girls is to 909 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 2: be prepared for and just go ahead and take the 910 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 2: picture and smile anyway, because that interaction is better than 911 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: trying to keep it real most of the time. But 912 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 2: at the same time, stay true to yourself. If you're 913 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: not feeling it, then articulate that in a polite way. 914 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 2: But hopefully, like for me, I had to learn, like 915 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 2: it's better to just shake the hand and take the picture. 916 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Because it's like, when you 917 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 2: share what's really going on with you, you realize people don't. 918 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: Care when they say how are you? 919 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 2: They don't Actually they would rather you not tell them 920 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 2: the other side of it. Yeah, you know what I mean, 921 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 2: because then you might start sparking things on them and 922 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 2: they're just barely holding on to their positivity in that 923 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 2: moment kind of thing. You might send them. 924 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: Spiraling down and you want to not ask you got to. 925 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 2: For when someone's drowning, you know what I mean, that 926 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 2: they don't pull you down with them kind of thing. 927 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: So what are other lessons that are important to you 928 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: to teach your daughters? 929 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 2: Do you think is the throat chop is a good one? 930 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 2: Just a quick. 931 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: Don't play with him, you know what I mean? 932 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 2: Just get away, you just look ways to get away. 933 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: But also just like try to be aware when people 934 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 2: might be hustling them, whether that's people or games, because 935 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: a lot of them games when the paywalls, you know 936 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm like, oh, this is a hustle. 937 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 2: You don't see that the actual games. 938 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, like bro like on their phone iPads, iPads and phones, you. 939 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 2: Know, and like I just want them to be aware 940 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 2: of the world behind the glossy you know, tech that's 941 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 2: in their hand, like the world that makes that and 942 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 2: the purpose of and like it is to make money. 943 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 2: Which is fine, but like don't let it like take 944 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 2: advantage of you if possible thing and like just get 945 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 2: swallowed in that it be the end all, be all. 946 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 2: If your phone ain't charge, yeah, come on, you know 947 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, see the bigger picture. But also like 948 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 2: be very like street smart if they can be, and 949 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 2: they are, like growing up in New York, you know, 950 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 2: they're very like aware of a lot and like culturally 951 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 2: aware of how the diverse the world kind of is. 952 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 2: And that's all great, Okay. 953 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: Do you want them to look at you as a friend? 954 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: Is that important to you? 955 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 2: I want them to look at as No, I'm their father, 956 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So like I want them 957 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 2: to love me and like we have friendly times of course, 958 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: but I am not their little buddy, you know what 959 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 2: I'm saying, and play with like that. Like I had 960 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 2: to tell Georgia not to call me bro. You know 961 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's like we're not No, that's not 962 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 2: the dynamic right now, you know what I'm saying. When 963 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 2: you're older, yes, but like while I'm providing and protecting 964 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 2: and teaching and this that and the other, like there 965 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 2: needs to be respect and like I don't know, like 966 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 2: if you call other adults bro, but if that's the case, 967 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 2: like that shouldn't be the case, you know what I mean, 968 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 2: Like you should respect you el just this and the 969 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 2: other you know what I mean, Just to try to 970 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 2: like set that in because it's not about how she 971 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 2: talks to me. It's how she goes out into the 972 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 2: world and is able to survive in the world. You 973 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like there's like I worry I 974 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 2: can't even imagine, like how your mom is about having 975 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: you in the world. You know what I'm saying, Like 976 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 2: as an adult out here on a daily like it's 977 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 2: got to be stressful. And I had dinner with one 978 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 2: of my buddies the other day that was like a 979 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 2: writer on the show from when we were kids, and 980 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 2: he's got his kids and they grown up and they drive. 981 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: He was like, they're driving, man, it's like the last step. 982 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 2: Once they drive. 983 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: They're just I can out in the world and you 984 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: just worry only imagine. I can only imagine you can 985 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: just try to give. 986 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 2: Them those tools of respect to like survive with when 987 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 2: I'm not able to be there to protect them kind 988 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 2: of thing. And I think your manners are one of 989 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 2: those things that can do. 990 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: That right right to Georgia and Gianna. Is there something 991 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: that you want to impart to them specifically that's straight 992 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: from your dad that you're like, I put that in 993 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: my pocket and I want to give it to these 994 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: these girls of mine. 995 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it's subtly in their sense of humor, 996 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like I see the things 997 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 2: that they laugh at, and it's like silly. And I 998 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 2: think our sense of humor on the silly side definitely 999 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 2: comes from my dad, Like my mom's. She has her 1000 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 2: sense of humor too, it's sharper and a little more 1001 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: like tabooish, but like, yeah, yeah, but my father's just 1002 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 2: like silly. So like his silly was shaped by the 1003 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 2: black perspective growing up, you know, through the sixties seventies, 1004 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and like being very black, 1005 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 2: so was mine growing up in Atlanta through the eighties 1006 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 2: and nineties, you know what I mean, and then carrying 1007 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 2: all of like what I've seen from the age of 1008 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 2: television whoever was funny perspective, as you know, on the 1009 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 2: black side of things, but also being hyper intrigued by 1010 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 2: in living colors and the Carries and like you know, 1011 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 2: the George Carlins On you know, a much more like 1012 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 2: broader cultural like comedic silliness kind of thing. Three Amigo's 1013 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like I felt like my 1014 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 2: dad was much more like pro black, Yeah, and then 1015 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 2: I was exposed to like a lot more stuff with 1016 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 2: just HBO coming out, you know what I'm saying, and 1017 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 2: being able to watch Spies like Us, you know on 1018 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 2: a regular basis, or Ghostbusters which is like majority white, 1019 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and then like Cheech and 1020 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 2: Chong and like learning about you know, Mexicans at all 1021 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 2: kind of yeah, and you know, not a lot of 1022 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 2: Spanish people in Georgia at that time, you know what 1023 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 2: I'm saying, So like he's getting all those perspectives kind 1024 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 2: of like from television. And then my girls are growing 1025 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 2: up in like current day in New York City, you 1026 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 2: know what i mean, So like their perspective is broader, 1027 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 2: and the things that they're aware of is much broader. 1028 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 2: But what they do end up laughing at is usually 1029 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 2: the silly part of those things, which is which is fun. 1030 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you feel like you could confide in your 1031 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: dad's like about emotional things. 1032 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, absolutely, And a lot of the time he 1033 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,760 Speaker 2: would like refer to a verse that he'd come across, 1034 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 2: or he would he would know what what verse kind 1035 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 2: of like because you know, it's prolific with the Bible. 1036 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 2: He read it a few times or something like that, 1037 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 2: so he's like usually had a story to tell about it, 1038 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 2: or a life lesson from something that his father had 1039 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 2: told him or his stepfather had told him, you know 1040 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 2: what I mean. So it was usually some life wisdom 1041 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 2: or you know, a Bible reference or something like that 1042 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 2: that he could always kind of refer to to help, 1043 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 2: you know, an emotional conversation. But at the same time, 1044 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 2: when the birds and the bees talk, was him handing 1045 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 2: me a pack of condoms and being like, there's the 1046 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 2: instructions in there. 1047 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: The reason he didn't want to he didn't want to 1048 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 1: have that conversation. 1049 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just was like he would always just tell 1050 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 2: I guess it was just like he assumed I knew 1051 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 2: what to do. 1052 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: Okay. 1053 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 2: He would always just like talk about you know, like 1054 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 2: girls and jokes and like just overhear his conversations with 1055 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 2: like my brother whatever when he was older and kind 1056 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 2: of thing. Yeah, and like movies, would like refer to 1057 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,240 Speaker 2: things or whatever kind of thing. So he just assumed 1058 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 2: that I. 1059 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: Just like little tippets here and there. I don't need 1060 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,800 Speaker 1: to have a conversation. 1061 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 2: Like I remember really like reading the instructions, like how 1062 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 2: does his work? 1063 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: Wow? 1064 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the pictures me and gross. 1065 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna sit then in my mind, I'm like YouTube, 1066 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: But I'm like YouTube wasn't that. YouTube wasn't around that? 1067 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: Even then, you don't really want to be on YouTube? 1068 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,479 Speaker 1: You do you want to be on YouTube? I go back, Yeah, 1069 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't mean to age you. You look a baby face. 1070 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 1: Baby face, he doesn't. 1071 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 2: I'm also kind of glad that it was a little slower, 1072 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 2: like if I would have saw it all out in YouTube, 1073 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 2: but it might have been too shocking. 1074 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You said that you want the girls to 1075 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 1: see you as their father, know you're their father? First? 1076 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: Do you want them to be able to talk to 1077 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: you about anything? 1078 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 2: Do they want I want that? 1079 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: Yes? 1080 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? And then like if I need to get an 1081 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 2: expert on it, then I will. I would be like 1082 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 2: talk to your mom, you know what I mean kind 1083 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 2: of thing, but like, yeah, I want them to see 1084 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 2: me as their friend too. But at the same time, 1085 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 2: like you know, it's deeper than that, you know, for now, 1086 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 2: basically because you know, it's my responsibility to to raise them. 1087 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, They're they're being raised. If 1088 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 2: they were already raised in yet we could be friends 1089 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 2: and that you know, Belichick Kischen has grown dog in 1090 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 2: the mouth. That sh it's weird, you know what I'm saying. 1091 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 2: I just want to know what my perspectives are. 1092 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying. Keenan's all know it. I just 1093 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: saw that because someone referenced there or something like Google. 1094 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 2: You will always see your babies as babies kind of thing. 1095 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 2: But like you have to understand like how society sees 1096 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 2: these things as well. And it's like easy for you 1097 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 2: to just be like, that's just my family, you know 1098 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Whatever, Like y'all can judge however, blah 1099 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: blah blah, but it's for the rest of us. It 1100 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 2: kind of feels a little weird. And it's nice that 1101 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 2: they're that close. That's a beautiful like it's a beautiful 1102 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 2: thing relationship, I mean, but like that's not the point, right, 1103 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean is how it is looked 1104 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,800 Speaker 2: at and proceive. And you can ignore a perception because 1105 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 2: like you don't have to deal with it necessarily, but 1106 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 2: it is there, so you can't necessarily deny it. Okay, 1107 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:11,720 Speaker 2: you know what I'm. 1108 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: Saying, and that's what you're saying. But do you is 1109 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 1: there any party that goes okay, I respect it if 1110 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: they're like, we know how this again, we can't ignore perception. 1111 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 1: We know how it's going to be perceived. And yes, 1112 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: we know it's there, and this is an conscious choice 1113 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: to be like this is what we do. 1114 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 2: Still, yeah, and like, as long as it's understood that 1115 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 2: it is what it is. But if there's any sort 1116 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 2: of an awakening to it being awkward or anything like that, 1117 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 2: then I feel like you're doing more harm than good 1118 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 2: by just continuing to just ignore societal norms. 1119 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: Fair enough, Okay, Okay, keenan. Each episode, I'm asking my 1120 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: dad for the day for a piece of advice. I 1121 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: need advice from you. 1122 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 2: Come on with it, Okay. We have these advice conversations 1123 00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 2: a lot we do in real life. 1124 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: In real life, so if I'm in a relationship, what 1125 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: are like, it's always hard to like navigate, Like, Okay, 1126 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,879 Speaker 1: this is a big problem you have to get cut 1127 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: off or this is just like a human flaw and 1128 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: I have to get and I can work with I 1129 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: could changee I could save to my sort of God, 1130 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: not me. I cannot save you. I cannot change you. 1131 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,399 Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to any way. No, I'm 1132 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 1: not going to do. So what would you say is 1133 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 1: something that is like grounds for immediately you need to 1134 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: step away from this man, barring like putting his hands 1135 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,760 Speaker 1: on me or bar like you know, the very obvious things. 1136 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 1: What would you say that where to draw a line 1137 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,359 Speaker 1: with a guy? 1138 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's tough because none of us 1139 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 2: are perfect, you know what I'm saying. So like any 1140 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 2: warning sign I would give you, I probably have done myself, 1141 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But at the same time, 1142 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 2: a lot of people deserve grace, a lot of people 1143 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 2: deserve an attempt at understanding or anything like that. But 1144 00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 2: like usually like hyper temper situations or like zero to 1145 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 2: one hundreds, you know what I mean, kind of like 1146 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 2: dynamic demeanor shifts if you will, you know what I'm saying, 1147 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 2: Like any type that you're not dealing with, just a constant, 1148 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You're dealing with a fluctuation, 1149 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 2: and like that's not a good thing to be able 1150 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 2: to invest in, you know what I'm saying. Like you're 1151 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,720 Speaker 2: investing in your future in all of your time spent 1152 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 2: with anything, you know what I'm saying. So it's like 1153 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 2: when you invest in things and shit is highly fluctuate, 1154 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 2: it's not usually an event an investment you tend to 1155 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 2: want to target. Okay, So just like just keep it 1156 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 2: on like that kind of level. But like you know 1157 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 2: what you want, you know what you're attracted to, and 1158 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 2: you know what you'll like tolerate basically, And if any 1159 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 2: one of those things is pulling the rubber band a 1160 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 2: little too far, I think you naturally feeling. And you're 1161 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 2: also just like either trying to bandage it for the 1162 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 2: sake of something, you know what I'm saying, or you 1163 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,720 Speaker 2: don't really know how to, Or you don't want to 1164 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 2: just completely like cut a person off just out of 1165 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 2: being a good person, you know what I'm saying. You 1166 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 2: don't want to see them just flopping around or just 1167 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 2: leaving a person, you know behind any kind of that, 1168 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 2: which is a good characteristic, you know, for a person 1169 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 2: to have. But this is your life, you know what 1170 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 2: I mean, And this is your bank, So people aren't 1171 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 2: contributing to the bank, right, Oh, it'll be rough for 1172 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 2: you to continue to participate in my life kind of thing. 1173 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 1: Okay, you have to be contributing to the bank in 1174 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: a real way, and it doesn't mean you are. 1175 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 2: You're contributing to theirs, you know what I'm saying. It's 1176 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:45,280 Speaker 2: like any sort of like thing that rubs you wrong, 1177 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 2: it's probably rubbing you wrong for a reason, you know 1178 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And like, however you react to that 1179 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 2: in the moment, whether you cut it off or you 1180 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 2: want to witness more examples of that, well you put 1181 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 2: it that way, you want to witness more you kind 1182 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 2: of know, like oh no, thanks. 1183 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 1: Kind of thing, you know what I mean? You can 1184 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: honor that. 1185 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 2: It's hard. I feel like probably dating in a ginormous 1186 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 2: city of people that are like focused on excelling, because 1187 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 2: when you focus on excelling, you don't usually bring your 1188 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 2: true self along in the beginning. You kind of introduce 1189 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 2: most of those things to people later because it's like, oh, 1190 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 2: if they saw me how I really am, what they 1191 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,359 Speaker 2: still love me kind of thing or whatever. So there's 1192 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 2: a lot of discovery. I think in things that you 1193 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 2: wouldn't normally put up later on down the road, kind 1194 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 2: of thing that you don't necessarily see if you just 1195 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 2: like in Atlanta, you know what I'm saying, Like in Atlanta, 1196 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 2: you can't really hide just aroundings like that. Like if 1197 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 2: you take someone home, they're going to see how you're 1198 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 2: really living, like pretty quickly, like whether you're living in 1199 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 2: a house or an apartment or you know, a nice 1200 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 2: version of either kind of thing. You know, you can 1201 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,360 Speaker 2: kind of really tell what's going on with that person 1202 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 2: as far as like at least financially what's happening, and 1203 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 2: you can make your decisions on that kind of thing. 1204 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 2: It's like you see them living in like whatever kind 1205 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 2: of party, you're like, oh, you're not doing as well 1206 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 2: as you may have seen. And I don't know if 1207 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,879 Speaker 2: that's necessarily someone that am looking for right now that's 1208 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 2: not as prepared for life as I am. And you know, 1209 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 2: I mean, like all those things you can kind of 1210 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 2: like see upfront. I don't know, man, It's it's tough 1211 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 2: like trying to say, like hopefully you can weed all 1212 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 2: that shit out quickly if you can, But I don't 1213 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 2: really know if you can, you know what I mean, 1214 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 2: you really have to start just spending time with people 1215 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 2: and like, you know, spend. 1216 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: As much time and then time take time. 1217 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,800 Speaker 2: You kind of have to if you're going to find 1218 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,760 Speaker 2: someone that you want to like, Like now you're spending 1219 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 2: time keeping up with each other on text, or now 1220 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 2: you're spending time, yeah, making a plan to see each other, 1221 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 2: and like as it builds and bills and bills, you 1222 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So while it's building, you know, 1223 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 2: hopefully you can keep checking in with each other as 1224 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 2: far as like if you're checking each other's boxes continuously, 1225 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 2: or if there's been some sort of hey, I don't 1226 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 2: like this kind of thing. Is that how you really are? 1227 00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 1: Or if you notice some shit you might not even 1228 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 1: have to ask if that's how you really are? I 1229 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: think even that that's sticky. I'm like, I'm just you 1230 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: gotta believe when people show you who they are, you 1231 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: gotta believe. 1232 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 2: Them that that's them. 1233 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: You don't have to have an interview about it. You 1234 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 1: don't have to. I believe you. I just believe you. 1235 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: I believe you. On site, that's what we're doing there. 1236 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: You go for the rest of it, for the rest 1237 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: of you. Attorney for on site Keenan, Thank you so 1238 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 1: so much. Is there anything you want to plug before 1239 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 1: you go? 1240 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 2: My pleasure just getting out here on a side effort. 1241 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 2: I like that, you know, having dads in the conversation. 1242 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 2: That's big, you know what I mean? 1243 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: Really, I love to hear from you all. It's really 1244 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: beautiful to to have these conversations, and it's really enlightening. 1245 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 2: I think we're one of those societal groups. It's like us, 1246 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 2: you want you want to talk. 1247 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 1: To talking to you. I'm so curious. But thank you 1248 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: so much. 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