Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya Wrath, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in.
Speaker 3: Scrub dub dumb.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 4: I thought you were about to go to dune in California.
Speaker 3: Loveeee. No, I wasn't gonna do that.
Speaker 2: It's August first, you guys.
Speaker 5: Wow, summer's flying by.
Speaker 1: Are we gonna have a brat summer? When we was
Speaker 1: still what are we gonna have a brat summer summer?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we should have started that back in June.
Speaker 1: We saw a whole nother month basically, two months of
Speaker 1: summer summer?
Speaker 3: Is that until September twenty something?
Speaker 5: Second? But still you know school's back soon.
Speaker 2: No, oh, my God associated summer with school.
Speaker 3: But it's not.
Speaker 1: Summer is a calendar. It's a biblical to my set.
Speaker 5: Summer not biblical.
Speaker 3: It's been the Bible.
Speaker 2: It's in the Yes, Brat summer is not in the
Speaker 2: Bible mindset.
Speaker 1: No, no, No, what I'm saying is summer is still summer.
Speaker 3: For another.
Speaker 1: We saw the two months basically of summer, and we
Speaker 1: can make it brat because that's what's cool.
Speaker 2: Now, tell me what a brad summer is, Tonya it's
Speaker 2: like von Dutch.
Speaker 1: It's like lime green slime, smell like sweat and cigarettes.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It so nothing more opposite of you than that.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm really having like a white color palette. Uh,
Speaker 1: situation happening.
Speaker 2: For now, Like cling girl Summer, You're not really Broad Summer.
Speaker 3: I hope I want to be Broad Summer.
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 3: Everybody is so cool.
Speaker 5: Brad Summer is about accepting your imperfections while embracing the chaos.
Speaker 5: That's what Charlie XCX says.
Speaker 3: Oh really, that's not my thought.
Speaker 2: That Ginger chan I swear I read that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, some website Glamour, can you look up
Speaker 1: what is brad Summer?
Speaker 5: I just did.
Speaker 4: It's literally coined it. So that's who you. That's who
Speaker 4: we're going to our info from.
Speaker 2: On the breath.
Speaker 5: Just like that girl who's a little messy and likes
Speaker 5: to party and maybe says dumb things, sometimes feels herself
Speaker 5: but maybe also has a breakdown, but kind of like
Speaker 5: parties through it. It's very honest, very blunt, a little
Speaker 5: volatile like those dumb things. But it's brat. You're brat.
Speaker 5: That's brat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. That's bratt.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: Well, whatever you want to be. It can be your
Speaker 2: whatever type of summer you want.
Speaker 4: Tonya, thank you, braver. I think could be more as
Speaker 4: bridal cling girl summer, but.
Speaker 3: I really can't. Yeah, I just did the dance. I know.
Speaker 3: It's like, I really can't help it.
Speaker 1: It was leaving the house today and Robbie was like,
Speaker 1: you're really into the white right now.
Speaker 3: I've worn white on white.
Speaker 5: By the way, why are you in a puffer vest?
Speaker 5: It's ninety five degrees to.
Speaker 3: Not inside this these are wearing.
Speaker 5: It inside these four walls.
Speaker 4: It's on your chair.
Speaker 1: Thank you for reminding me because I met earlier.
Speaker 2: It's actually insane.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, now I feel nice brat summer.
Speaker 4: It's also visually not like I know exactly like I know,
Speaker 4: it's not cool or clean.
Speaker 2: It's like, it's not brown.
Speaker 3: It's not clean girl. It's not barbiecore giving Melton.
Speaker 5: It's giving an eight burbank right now. And you have
Speaker 5: a puffery vest.
Speaker 3: That's right, what's inside inside the studio?
Speaker 5: You weren't wearing it until five seconds.
Speaker 2: You're not that cold.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty chilly, not cold enough that you did that
Speaker 1: on your own accord though, right brat summer.
Speaker 3: I do what I want, all right, you guys cigarettes.
Speaker 1: I can't even feel like slimey with green slime. I
Speaker 1: do feel like my voice has changed ever since my sickness.
Speaker 1: I like cannot get my voice back.
Speaker 2: You just your voice has sounded fine until this moment
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, I feel like it's been like horse for
Speaker 1: two weeks.
Speaker 3: Now, screaming brat summer. And you know my voice has
Speaker 3: been different. I did notice on earlier in the week.
Speaker 3: I noticed that earlier. This week sounds better, Yeah, sounds
Speaker 3: better today.
Speaker 4: You know those girls that like, like I'm and they're like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to use my voice, but they love
Speaker 4: how it sounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you. I don't mind it.
Speaker 1: If this is the new me, then here, but totally normal.
Speaker 3: It's just a little deeper. It's a little horser.
Speaker 2: Think you just clear your throat and get some back.
Speaker 3: Just sound nice for our guest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do have a guest. Yeah, and I'm very
Speaker 4: excited to talk to her. We have Beckamore joining us.
Speaker 4: She is a TikTok creator. She has like a bunch
Speaker 4: of ratings on TikTok. This is kind of how she
Speaker 4: got popular rating her creepy d MS thing. She is
Speaker 4: known on TikTok for all these like funny ratings she does.
Speaker 4: So it's like rating my creepy dms that time of
Speaker 4: baseball player flew me out to meet him, Like all
Speaker 4: these dating stories. She would like contact. If girls were like,
Speaker 4: I think my boyfriend's cheating on me, she would DM
Speaker 4: them the boy to try and catfish and she'd just
Speaker 4: be like high hi, and they'd respond and then she'd
Speaker 4: be like, oh, like you go to this college and
Speaker 4: then if you cheated, she'd expose him on TikTok.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah savage. So she also has her own podcast.
Speaker 4: She has her own podcast and it's called for the
Speaker 4: Girls with Becca Moore, and that is because she is
Speaker 4: for the girls. She's always been for the girls. But
Speaker 4: she's really for the girls because she is dating a
Speaker 4: friend of our show and a beverage whom we love.
Speaker 5: We had her on with Seacrest. I did not realize
Speaker 5: that until this moment.
Speaker 3: Oh this is the girl. Yes, oh wow, Yeah, we
Speaker 3: had her on the morning show, oh.
Speaker 5: Doing the thing where people think her boyfriends so she
Speaker 5: would each out to them. Yes, we had her on
Speaker 5: for this very reason.
Speaker 3: Did you look up the name?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh wow, it's like Ryan's Roses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my gosh, that's so funny.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then we went to a the Era's tour with
Speaker 4: her in a group with Mermaid Hair, and she was
Speaker 4: there with her friend and so we had that bonding
Speaker 4: experience as well.
Speaker 2: And she's so cute.
Speaker 4: And now she's back for more, and she's she's back
Speaker 4: for more with beccam Moore.
Speaker 3: Back for more with Beca more. Let's we can't say
Speaker 3: anything else. Let's bring her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's bring her in. Welcome Beckham.
Speaker 3: We are so excited to have you. I'm so excited
Speaker 3: to be here. I love you. Guys. We went to
Speaker 3: the eras towards we were just talking about this. But
Speaker 3: back then I stay, yeah, I mean, let's jump right
Speaker 3: into it, because I feel like that.
Speaker 4: I remember being on the bus together and you were
Speaker 4: talking about someone like up in San Francisco, and I
Speaker 4: can't remember what the thing was. He wanted you to
Speaker 4: come up there, but you didn't know if you were
Speaker 4: into him. I can't remember what the story was.
Speaker 3: Well, we were kind of dating. We had gone on
Speaker 3: a date. We met on a dating app and I
Speaker 3: was really into him, and he was visiting La for work,
Speaker 3: and he like we had like a crazy strong connection.
Speaker 3: But then he like that was it. We went on
Speaker 3: a good date and then I was like, am I
Speaker 3: is he going to bring me to San Francisco?
Speaker 2: Like what do I do?
Speaker 3: And then you guys were helping me, like craft a
Speaker 3: text to be like I miss you or something, and
Speaker 3: then we did date for a couple of months, but
Speaker 3: then the distance was too hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was what last year in August?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was August. And then a year ago,
Speaker 3: literally a year ago, Oh my god, that's crazy. And
Speaker 3: then I met Shannon in I think, Well we kept talking.
Speaker 3: Me and that man dated until I think like he
Speaker 3: wasn't like a backup, but we broke up. Broke up
Speaker 3: in like November, and then I met Shannon, and I
Speaker 3: remember being like I'm never gonna date a guy again.
Speaker 3: Like I was like, I like, wait, really, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I was just kidding, like I was just saying that,
Speaker 3: you know, like I don't know. I was like, I
Speaker 3: need a break from dating. And then I met Shannon
Speaker 3: like three weeks later at the music video shoot, and
Speaker 3: I was like, maybe I'll just get a girl I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's my question.
Speaker 4: Because I've listened to your podcast, I've heard the story
Speaker 4: of how you met Shannon. But I want you to
Speaker 4: go through that day again and meeting Shannon, and then
Speaker 4: I have some follow up questions. Okay, inspector gadget over here.
Speaker 3: So I met her at the music video shoot, and
Speaker 3: she like wouldn't give me the time of day. I
Speaker 3: had never liked a girl before, like I've never I
Speaker 3: mean a music video shoot. It was for Zolita, her
Speaker 3: song Oh my God, Queen of It's Queen of Hearts
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okayla is Shannon's roommate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but I didn't know this. So I show
Speaker 3: up and all of a sudden, I was attracted to Shannon.
Speaker 3: I was really confused. So I was like, what the
Speaker 3: hell is going on? And she like wouldn't make eye
Speaker 3: contact with me, like I couldn't get her attention. I
Speaker 3: was like, what do I do? So then she comes
Speaker 3: over to us and she was like she was a
Speaker 3: creative director and she was like, hi, guys, has anyone
Speaker 3: here been in a music video before? And I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I have, and I was trying to
Speaker 3: like let her know that, like I was like in
Speaker 3: with the lesbians, Like I wanted her to think that
Speaker 3: I like knew leslians. So I was like, I, actually
Speaker 3: it was in this LGBT music video with Fletcher. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you did you know that? D No,
Speaker 3: I didn't know anything. I don't know. I'm so mad
Speaker 3: at myself realized it's so bad. Do you know this story,
Speaker 3: Becca or no?
Speaker 2: I just saw your TikTok about this.
Speaker 3: I just finally told the story last night because I've
Speaker 3: been like omitting that part of the story because it's embarrassing.
Speaker 3: But it's not embarrassing if you didn't know. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: literally did not know. What are the odds of me
Speaker 3: bringing up Fletcher with Shannon Beverage in our first sentence?
Speaker 3: Finally I got her attention to so everything was like
Speaker 3: riding on this one like interaction, and I messed it
Speaker 3: up somehow. I was like, yeah, I was in Fletcher's
Speaker 3: music video. She was so cool, she was so awesome.
Speaker 3: It was so fun hanging out with her all day.
Speaker 3: And then she like let me talk for a while,
Speaker 3: she like let me go on with my story, and
Speaker 3: I thought she was like really into it. But then
Speaker 3: she was like, so that is my ex girlfriend and
Speaker 3: we I don't even know. So then I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. And then she didn't
Speaker 3: talk to me for the rest of the day and
Speaker 3: I got to get her attention. I kept going up
Speaker 3: to her and being like, I'm so sorry, so sorry,
Speaker 3: and she kept being like, it's fine and I don't
Speaker 3: care that much, like it seems like you really care,
Speaker 3: and she thought, okay, So that made her think I
Speaker 3: was straight because I didn't know their like lore, like
Speaker 3: I didn't know, Yeah.
Speaker 4: That is pretty straight though not knowing about I.
Speaker 3: Didn't know anything. I so I googled her in the
Speaker 3: back because I started telling everyone what I had just done,
Speaker 3: not the shoot, and they were like, that is Shannon Bedbridge.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Shannon Beverage is. And I googled
Speaker 3: her in the bathroom and then I found out and
Speaker 3: I felt terrible and I decided I was in love
Speaker 3: with her from like her social media, like I thought
Speaker 3: she was so hot and it made me want her
Speaker 3: even more that like she didn't like me that day
Speaker 3: at all, so but she thought she just thought it
Speaker 3: was straight, like she didn't know and then yeah, and
Speaker 3: then I messaged her. I was like, I think got
Speaker 3: because she posted this is after then after this ship. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it hadn't talked. I mean she like came up to
Speaker 3: me and like asked me a question, but it was
Speaker 3: like pointless, like it was not flirty.
Speaker 4: And was she flirty or giving attention to anybody else
Speaker 4: on set or was she just very much she was
Speaker 4: just like.
Speaker 3: In her own zone, except I saw her on Rya,
Speaker 3: Like I saw over her shoulder that she was on ride,
Speaker 3: so I knew she was single, so I thought I
Speaker 3: would could get in, you know, so I down't well
Speaker 3: already had Rya, but I changed my Riya to girls
Speaker 3: literally that day, and I started looking for her. And
Speaker 3: I would run out of swipes every single day looking
Speaker 3: for Shannon. But it turns out her like age limit
Speaker 3: was set to twenty seven and I'm twenty six. Oh,
Speaker 3: so I was never gonna find her. Yeah you cross
Speaker 3: that literally ever so but then I she posted a
Speaker 3: Q and A on her Instagram a few days later
Speaker 3: and it was like, asked me questions about relationships for
Speaker 3: my podcast, So I asked. I was like, I'm going
Speaker 3: to say, what do I do if I think I'm
Speaker 3: in love with you, which I thought was funny, like
Speaker 3: obviously I'm not actually in love with her, but she
Speaker 3: didn't answer it.
Speaker 1: So I was like, this girlings I'm crazy, like crazy,
Speaker 1: I bring up her ex girlfriend and then I told
Speaker 1: her I was in love with her, and then she
Speaker 1: didn't answer, and so then I gave up because it
Speaker 1: was like she obviously doesn't like she's creeped out by me,
Speaker 1: like that was weird of me, like everything I did.
Speaker 3: And then my manager butt dialed her. My manager knew
Speaker 3: her because my manager had managed her like years before,
Speaker 3: and she told me after because I was telling everyone
Speaker 3: like in my life, I was like, guys, I like
Speaker 3: a girl. Now it's this girl. And then my manager
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, I used to manage Shannon,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god, you're so lucky.
Speaker 3: Tell her I'm in love with her. She's like, I'm
Speaker 3: never going to see her again. But she butt dialed
Speaker 3: her like a week later, like my manager randomly butt
Speaker 3: dialed Shannon, which is crazy, like I feel like it's
Speaker 3: the universe helping me out. But she was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I was trying to call my dad can
Speaker 3: but do you know Becka more Chan was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I met that girl at the shoe and she was like, well,
Speaker 3: Becka is like in love with you, like she keeps
Speaker 3: talking about you. And she was like what like she
Speaker 3: swore to god, she did not see my DM like
Speaker 3: she swears, So I don't know if I believe her
Speaker 3: in the question box thing, Yeah, she see it. So
Speaker 3: then she DMed me, well, was she following you? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Because I followed. She was the only one I followed
Speaker 3: from the shoe, so she should have known.
Speaker 1: Because the thing is, when when I like people that
Speaker 1: I follow like show up, it shows about the top.
Speaker 3: So I don't really know if I believe her. I
Speaker 3: feel I know, I feel like she was just like
Speaker 3: trying to make me feel better. So but then she
Speaker 3: DMed me and then I got scared. I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: now it feels like too serious. So I didn't answer
Speaker 3: for a week and then I finally answered her.
Speaker 2: What did she DM you?
Speaker 3: She just replied to like one of my stories. It
Speaker 3: was like you have like just like joking about something
Speaker 3: I posted. But I was like I don't know now,
Speaker 3: like I don't know if I want to come talk
Speaker 3: to a girl because I felt like I finally got her,
Speaker 3: you know, and I was like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I was gonna ask if you if that's
Speaker 4: how you dated guys, like if if it was like
Speaker 4: if you got there like you liked the chase, and
Speaker 4: then as soon as you got their attention where you
Speaker 4: kind of like okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm kind of like avoidant, like I
Speaker 3: got interesting. Yeah, very avoidant. I love I mean just
Speaker 3: getting into my like mental self. I don't know, but
Speaker 3: like I think, yeah, once I have someone, but then
Speaker 3: like she's so sweet that it like won me over,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, now I feel more secure in our relationship.
Speaker 3: But like, definitely in the beginning, I was like kind
Speaker 3: of playing a little bit, like I was like, I
Speaker 3: don't know if I really like her, so I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna like talk to her for I would like say,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna like reply to this one, and then
Speaker 3: she would say something funny and then I'd like, fine,
Speaker 3: I'll reply to one more. And then she obviously won
Speaker 3: me over and I love her now. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: think because I don't think I could like fathom the
Speaker 3: fact that I actually had romantic feel like I really
Speaker 3: liked a girl and I wasn't just like being fun,
Speaker 3: Like I don't know what I thought in the beginning.
Speaker 4: Did you ever have any Cause when I look back,
Speaker 4: I never had romantic feelings like I had.
Speaker 2: For Haley before.
Speaker 4: But I look back on certain things and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: maybe that was a crush on a girl, or like
Speaker 4: maybe that was like a crush, but I just I I.
Speaker 2: What's the word I'm looking for? Like excuse it? Almost
Speaker 2: as like, oh, I just have like a girl crush,
Speaker 2: but not if that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Do you have any of those? Or was oh, okay,
Speaker 3: you do well? Shannon was definitely the first one that
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I want to be like physical too.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I.
Speaker 3: Definitely had like codependent friendship where like we were like
Speaker 3: I would get we would get mad at each other
Speaker 3: if we had a boyfriend, like we hated each other's
Speaker 3: boyfriends and we had to hang out. Like I remember
Speaker 3: like crying one time on Valentine's Day because of my
Speaker 3: best friend Kenzie, like she wanted to hang out with
Speaker 3: her boyfriend and not me, And I'm like, that's not straight.
Speaker 3: I think that's not normal. But but also but also
Speaker 3: like I think it's hard for me to even like
Speaker 3: admit that right now, because I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 3: anyone in my life, like previously, to think that I
Speaker 3: don't want any of my friends to think that I
Speaker 3: was like in love with them, you know, because I
Speaker 3: don't think I was. I wasn't attracted to like really
Speaker 3: feminine girls, but like Shannon is the type of girl
Speaker 3: that I would have gone for if I had met
Speaker 3: one like her sooner because I lived in Ohio in
Speaker 3: Nashville my whole life, so I wasn't around a lot
Speaker 3: of lesbians or lesbians that were out.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: And I think Shannon that's why Shannon became so loved
Speaker 4: in the community is because I think girls saw her
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, like I both my younger
Speaker 4: sisters are gay, and they were both like Shannon was
Speaker 4: such a like made me think, oh I could be
Speaker 4: gay and I could like someone that isn't you know,
Speaker 4: like if I think they saw themselves in her and
Speaker 4: they were like, oh, that could be me, And I
Speaker 4: think she had that a lot of people had that
Speaker 4: experience because of Shannon. And I think that it's so
Speaker 4: funny that you went, like to that video shoot, which
Speaker 4: was predominantly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, you only know this girl.
Speaker 3: I had no idea. Well, I because my tagline on
Speaker 3: TikTok was like for the girls, not the guys. So
Speaker 3: they asked me to be in it just because just
Speaker 3: like say that tagline and be like for the girls,
Speaker 3: not the guys. And I didn't realize that I was
Speaker 3: the only like straight one. Yeah, I thought I was straight.
Speaker 3: So I think all those girls kind of helped me
Speaker 3: too throughout the day because they were like, if you
Speaker 3: like Shannon, because all day I was like, how do
Speaker 3: I get Shannon like me? Guys And they're like, you
Speaker 3: know you're by right, like you're definitely bisexual, and I
Speaker 3: was like, no, no, no, I'm not. You guys are
Speaker 3: I'm not? Because I got like it was just fun
Speaker 3: like I thought I was joking, Yeah, but I wasn't
Speaker 3: joking now looking at but yeah, she but Shannon does
Speaker 3: have that effect on people, like I feel like you
Speaker 3: can see yourself in Shannon because she's so girl next
Speaker 3: door and she like she's not what you think of
Speaker 3: when you think of like a stereotypical like I don't know,
Speaker 3: like definitely is going on stereotyps, but like they're you
Speaker 3: just I don't know. I think there needs me more
Speaker 3: representation because she looks so like she could be anyone
Speaker 3: like your sister, like your fat I don't know. She
Speaker 3: looks like, I guess a normal girl and not so
Speaker 3: Lesbians aren't normal, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: There's a stereotype, there's a stereotyper, and I think there's
Speaker 4: people it's like based on how you present. And sometimes
Speaker 4: if you saw something your whole life that represented what
Speaker 4: a lesbian is, you're like, oh, I'm not necessarily tracked
Speaker 4: to that. And then you see someone like Shannon who's
Speaker 4: kind of rides that line of femuline femalin, feminine and.
Speaker 1: Masculine, kind of good femuline femulin, and it kind of
Speaker 1: makes you go like, Okay, I get I could be there.
Speaker 2: I think I am into girls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was hard though, being like am I just
Speaker 3: do I actually like her? Or do I just like
Speaker 3: her as a friend. It's like that thing again where
Speaker 3: I'm like, am I obsessed with Kenzie the girl that
Speaker 3: I was best friends with? Or do I like like her?
Speaker 3: Like I don't know. But then I kind of just
Speaker 3: had to like be like, well, do I want to
Speaker 3: keep do I want to make out with her, Yes,
Speaker 3: obviously I want to make out with her. Then I
Speaker 3: like her, you know. Yeah, it was just hard to
Speaker 3: come to terms with that. When I grew up also
Speaker 3: was just scared of like what people. I kept it
Speaker 3: a secret even from my family for like six months.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, six months? What about your friends who knew
Speaker 2: about it?
Speaker 3: Only my LA friends knew because I obviously was bringing
Speaker 3: her around and like telling them. I mean, I broke
Speaker 3: the news in all my groups with my friends being like, guys,
Speaker 3: I like a girl like that day, and I because
Speaker 3: I was just so embarrassed about the story that had
Speaker 3: just had, like the Fletcher thing, So I obviously texted
Speaker 3: all of them because I needed their like I wanted
Speaker 3: them to make me feel better. And I never like
Speaker 3: came out to like my friends really like I just
Speaker 3: kind of was like, guys, I like this girl and
Speaker 3: she's so hot. And then all my friends were, even
Speaker 3: my O high friends are all like ha ha, Becca,
Speaker 3: you need to like redeem your like no one, they
Speaker 3: weren't taking me seriously in the beginning because it was
Speaker 3: like a joke kind of and then as time went on,
Speaker 3: it was just kind of like a slow. They were like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: Becca likes this girl. Once we me and Shannon started dating,
Speaker 3: they were very easy to come out to my family.
Speaker 3: I kind of did have to do like the sit down,
Speaker 3: and I like surprised them. They thought I was like
Speaker 3: pregnant or something because I was crying when I told them.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I could tell you something. And
Speaker 3: it was a little bit more dramatic than my friends.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it took me a long time. Even though
Speaker 3: I thought that like coming out would be like so
Speaker 3: lighthearted now like on the internet, I mean, that was
Speaker 3: a different story. But I thought that it would be
Speaker 3: really lighthearted and like everyone would be like who cares,
Speaker 3: it's twenty twenty four. But then I did it, and
Speaker 3: like it's a lot more permanent than I thought, Like
Speaker 3: I think, what is that? What do you mean permanent?
Speaker 3: Like it feels like I'm just scared that everyone will
Speaker 3: think that I went crazy and like I'm wearing a
Speaker 3: scarlet letter. Yeah that's how I feel, But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I had to like, oh that, like it's just been
Speaker 3: like a crazy week or two weeks of people being
Speaker 3: like sometimes I'm just getting like weird dms that are
Speaker 3: like I don't know that are like Bible stuff. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get a lot of those two.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wait, what was it like when you came out?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 4: Well? I think we work together for four years, so
Speaker 4: I had a lot of time to like really prepare
Speaker 4: and process, you know what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what to expect.
Speaker 4: In terms of the response from like public. But all
Speaker 4: my friends knew basically the day after I kissed her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all, I told them all.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was just like, my sisters lived with me, which
Speaker 4: that was nice because I had I knew I had
Speaker 4: their support. But I come from a very like Southern
Speaker 4: Christian background, so.
Speaker 2: The family part was really hard and challenging.
Speaker 4: And then I was just like not ready to have
Speaker 4: it be public, and I wasn't prepared to deal with
Speaker 4: getting d MS about the Bible and what you know.
Speaker 4: I just like wasn't ready for that. And so when
Speaker 4: we came out, I was totally prepared.
Speaker 3: So I was.
Speaker 4: Ready for anything and everything. And I was also I
Speaker 4: knew I had my support system. Everyone knew, and I
Speaker 4: was just kind of ready to not have to because
Speaker 4: we talked, we talked about me being in a relationship
Speaker 4: on the podcast, but we never said pronouns and it
Speaker 4: was so hard.
Speaker 3: So four years were like, and what are you doing
Speaker 3: this weekend? Are you in said person? Going to dinner?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Why did people kind of know?
Speaker 2: Or was it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? People knew and they were so wonderful because everyone
Speaker 4: let me do it my own time.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: There was and then if we if we Haley and
Speaker 4: I were out and I met someone like who listened
Speaker 4: to the podcast, I would inter I'd be like, this
Speaker 4: is my girlfriend Haley. I never hit her in that
Speaker 4: way because I never wanted it to be I never
Speaker 4: wanted her to feel hidden. It was just private. I
Speaker 4: wasn't ready, so it was I don't I get what
Speaker 4: you're saying. But I didn't do it as fast as
Speaker 4: you did, so I had a lot more time to
Speaker 4: kind of prep myself. And I think that I know
Speaker 4: what you're talking about the permanence of it. And then
Speaker 4: people would be like, I didn't know you were a lesbian,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, well, I don't really identify as a lesbian.
Speaker 3: But that's what I meant when I said the permanent thing.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't want people to like I still
Speaker 3: had relationships with guys in the past, and I think
Speaker 3: I don't want like people to think that, like I
Speaker 3: never liked any guy that right, right, Like I'm definitely
Speaker 3: by which right? Like do you feel like now?
Speaker 1: Like people say like, oh, you're bisexual, and then but
Speaker 1: you're like, well maybe I'm maybe I'm fully lesbian, maybe
Speaker 1: I'm st like you just don't know.
Speaker 3: I know, I don't even think what when people like
Speaker 3: I don't even think I fit into like bisex, so
Speaker 3: I just feel like I just like a girl, Like
Speaker 3: I feel like, I mean, obviously I am technically bisexual,
Speaker 3: but like that makes it feel like half and half,
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I feel like going back and forth,
Speaker 3: you know where I'm like, I don't know what my
Speaker 3: sexuality is like and why I do I have to
Speaker 3: have you know.
Speaker 2: You really don't.
Speaker 4: And I think for some people the label so important
Speaker 4: because they live with it for so long that being
Speaker 4: able to say, like I'm a lesbian or I'm bisexual
Speaker 4: feels like freeing. And I think I felt the same
Speaker 4: way as you, as like I don't like being put
Speaker 4: in a box. I don't want to have to label
Speaker 4: myself or give an answer to this. But because what
Speaker 4: I was like in my mind, I'm like, I fell
Speaker 4: in love with Haley, and that's what I know that
Speaker 4: you know, I know, I know that I'm attracted to men,
Speaker 4: But like, will I want to date a man again
Speaker 4: if Haley and I don't work out, I don't know.
Speaker 4: But that's not even in my focus right now because
Speaker 4: I fell in love with Haley and that's who I'm with.
Speaker 2: So I I totally wit this whole.
Speaker 4: Thing that you're going through. And now I kind of
Speaker 4: just I don't care, like say whatever you want. I'm
Speaker 4: in love with this person and that's what it is. Yeah.
Speaker 3: People keep asking me, so when you guys break up,
Speaker 3: they'll say, like, when you guys break up, you're going
Speaker 3: to go back to men, And I'm like what, And
Speaker 3: we're dating and currently we are dating like we love
Speaker 3: each other. Yeah, I'm not thinking about like who I'm
Speaker 3: going to date next, right, I don't know, Like and
Speaker 3: she even asked me that too, She's like, are you
Speaker 3: going to date girls like forever now? And I was like, wait, what,
Speaker 3: we're literally dating?
Speaker 4: Shit?
Speaker 3: Why I hope?
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 4: It's it's a It's interesting because I think when you like,
Speaker 4: if someone is presumed and you yourself, presume that you're
Speaker 4: straight forever, and then you fall in love with someone
Speaker 4: and it's different than what people expected from you. They
Speaker 4: like need an answer about that, and you don't owe
Speaker 4: them that, you know, And I think that you being
Speaker 4: able to fall in love with a girl and process it,
Speaker 4: and also it's still pretty new for you and like
Speaker 4: to be able to process it and you're kind of
Speaker 4: doing it in real time.
Speaker 2: With people, it's going to be really helpful for a
Speaker 2: lot of people.
Speaker 4: And I also think that it's hard and to like
Speaker 4: give yourself grace because I don't think it's I don't
Speaker 4: think it's a I know, it's easy to be like
Speaker 4: it's twenty twenty four, it's not a big deal anymore.
Speaker 4: Everyone's you know, people should be comfortable, and they should.
Speaker 4: But I think as a personal thing, it is such
Speaker 4: a big deal, and it's such a big deal that
Speaker 4: you are public with it.
Speaker 2: So I hope you feel really proud of yourself.
Speaker 3: Because it's so see I do.
Speaker 4: I think that it's a big deal and you did
Speaker 4: it way faster than I did.
Speaker 3: But you really were like one of the people that
Speaker 3: paved the way for me. Like I thought, like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I'm not kidding you were. I loved watching
Speaker 3: your story. Obviously, I watched both of your seasons as
Speaker 3: the Bachelor. I loved it, and then watching like I
Speaker 3: kind of like saw at first of all, you have
Speaker 3: the same name, but like I did like see myself
Speaker 3: and you, and especially coming from I mean, my family
Speaker 3: isn't conservative, but like I came from Ohio and then
Speaker 3: I lived in Nashville, So yeah, I think that like
Speaker 3: if I had more representation like you, Like I was
Speaker 3: really excited when I saw you come out, and I
Speaker 3: don't think I knew why. Maybe I should have known why,
Speaker 3: Like maybe I knew deep down like I could be
Speaker 3: attracted to girls. But I do think that the more
Speaker 3: people that do just like fall in love with the
Speaker 3: same sex and like just tell everyone and they didn't
Speaker 3: expect it, but it's whatever. I think that will help
Speaker 3: a lot more people, because I think the world is
Speaker 3: just more fun if you don't like put yourself in
Speaker 3: a box of like, oh I'm straight, I can only
Speaker 3: date this gender, you know, Like I feel like what
Speaker 3: if you just like what such?
Speaker 1: Like it's so it's so crazy to me that you
Speaker 1: get asked these questions and it's like if somebody dm
Speaker 1: me and was like if you and Robbie don't work out,
Speaker 1: like who are you gonna date next?
Speaker 3: Normal? Like go kick rocks? Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Like straight people don't have to do that, yea, stuff
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know, and there's so much pressure on like
Speaker 3: oh my god, Like I'm.
Speaker 1: Like why, Like I like they like asking you like
Speaker 1: are you gonna have kids?
Speaker 3: Like yeah, like how are you gonna have?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm literally twenty six. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: feel like I'm I'm seventeen. I have idea. All I
Speaker 3: know is I love her and who cares?
Speaker 2: Why is it?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Also, I do feel like a certain like not to
Speaker 3: call my family and some of my old old friends out,
Speaker 3: but like I do feel a little bit of coldness
Speaker 3: from like certain members of my family, and that is
Speaker 3: kind of that has been painful. But then when I
Speaker 3: think about it, like a bird's eye but also okay,
Speaker 3: I'm like backshocking, but I do kind of have to
Speaker 3: give them grace because it took me a long time
Speaker 3: to like forgive myself and be like okay, fine, I'm
Speaker 3: going to dat a girl. So that's been hard. You
Speaker 3: don't have to forget, Like it's not about them forgiving you.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, I know, forgive, but it's not even
Speaker 1: it's like them, not no, it's like them whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is for them, but maybe
Speaker 1: it's something they've been taught or been told forever forever,
Speaker 1: so they're like processing and unlearning. And I think at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's like you do just
Speaker 1: have to give people like a little bit of time
Speaker 1: and grace because yeah, if they love you like that
Speaker 1: will come through.
Speaker 3: That will we shine through? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And as long as they're not like hopefully nobody is
Speaker 1: being negative or.
Speaker 3: No texting me like yeah, text or anything, but like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I do. I just I guess I just want everyone
Speaker 3: my message to be like I'm happy, like I want
Speaker 3: everything happy for me, And this could happen to you too,
Speaker 3: me like threatening.
Speaker 1: If you guys look really hot.
Speaker 3: Has your family met her? Yeah?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Wait, why did I say they face timed her? But okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: my mom is like obsessed, like she's like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: am my sisters too. But I met her entire family
Speaker 3: and that was so fun. They were so sweet.
Speaker 2: So y'all meet at the video.
Speaker 4: Shoot y'all, Damn, whois the first thing out?
Speaker 3: She asked me on a date, okay, and that's when
Speaker 3: we went to drinks and I freakimmed a little bit
Speaker 3: too her. I like had two glasses of wine before. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you have to.
Speaker 1: I was so nervous I ever went to a date sober,
Speaker 1: I know, but imagine the first one with a girl like.
Speaker 3: I'm just terribot. I showed up though, and like she
Speaker 3: says that, I was like shaking, like shaking really hard,
Speaker 3: and I don't remember that. I'm like, why did that
Speaker 3: doesn't sound like no. She didn't tell me until like
Speaker 3: weeks later, thank god. But yeah, we sat down and
Speaker 3: I knew right away. I was like, I need to
Speaker 3: make you my girlfriend, Like I need you, Like she
Speaker 3: looked so cute and she was like so she's just
Speaker 3: like charming, like she was so friendly. And then after
Speaker 3: that that's pretty much like I think before was the
Speaker 3: harder part, like getting me to work up the courage.
Speaker 3: She'd be like, Okay, I'm actually going on this date
Speaker 3: and like I'm actually gonna take this seriously as a
Speaker 3: possibility for someone that I'm going to date, because when
Speaker 3: she asked me on a date, the avoidant thing came
Speaker 3: up again where I was like, I'm just gonna be
Speaker 3: kind of like avoid of this girl, Like I'm not
Speaker 3: going to text her ato like six pm every day. Why,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that was six pm.
Speaker 1: I don't like the morning spot that happens after six pm.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, maybe that I don't know. I just like
Speaker 3: remember like I would not text her. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 3: I thought that I was like.
Speaker 1: Eleven, that's dangerous territory, but six pm grabs at her
Speaker 1: early brit special at six pm.
Speaker 3: I think I thought that story would like land Alge.
Speaker 3: I thought you guys be like, wow, so bad. But
Speaker 3: it felt like I felt she was as a girl
Speaker 3: like and she would text me at night and and
Speaker 3: I wouldn't answer for a while six pm until six
Speaker 3: It was crazy. But yeah, but how long did that last?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 3: That was like because I was in Ohio. It was
Speaker 3: like over Christmas? Okay, so because we met December third, okay,
Speaker 3: and then we went on our first date January seventh.
Speaker 3: Oh so so we talked a lot before you went out. Well,
Speaker 3: I remember like PM, Well, the first, she didn't talk
Speaker 3: to me for like a week after the shoot, and
Speaker 3: then I didn't talked to her for like a week,
Speaker 3: So it took like a couple of weeks in between
Speaker 3: because I stalked her old like YouTube videos.
Speaker 1: But like that's like a long time of like I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, when you're talking to somebody on
Speaker 1: like a dating app, I always wanted to meet them
Speaker 1: right away because it's like there's only so much you
Speaker 1: can talk to someone before you like go on your
Speaker 1: first date.
Speaker 3: I know. But we had so much to talk about
Speaker 3: because like I was watching all of her YouTube videos.
Speaker 3: Most you would ask her questions, did she did you
Speaker 3: tell her?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: I did. The day I finally replied to her DM,
Speaker 3: I just sent her screenshot of like one of her
Speaker 3: old YouTube videos, and I said, why am I watching
Speaker 3: this right now? Haha? But really I was just watching
Speaker 3: those to see if like I should answer her, like
Speaker 3: to see if I was like for real about liking her,
Speaker 3: Like I wanted to like do a deep dive. So
Speaker 3: I watch like all of her stuff, and then I
Speaker 3: pretended like that was the only one I watched obviously,
Speaker 3: but I watch every single one, and yeah, then we
Speaker 3: started we kept texting for a couple of weeks, but yeah,
Speaker 3: we were texting every day for like two weeks before
Speaker 3: finally we gone on this date. So we had a
Speaker 3: lot to talk about on our date, and then after
Speaker 3: that we spent like every day together like forever. Okay.
Speaker 2: So once Chill met, it was pretty much like it was.
Speaker 3: Like she was like trying to be like slow down,
Speaker 3: like no, not really like it was not like I
Speaker 3: was trying to like date or tomorrow, but she kept
Speaker 3: being like I can't have a girlfriend right now. I
Speaker 3: she got to have a relationship, and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, it's totally fine. I don't even care.
Speaker 3: And then we did stop talking for twelve hours because
Speaker 3: we kept hating. Okay, we kept out, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3: It was so short. She tried to like okay, so
Speaker 3: we were hanging out every day, and then I think
Speaker 3: she realized that things are kind of probably going to
Speaker 3: get serious. So on our like third date, she like
Speaker 3: was like I just want let you know, like I
Speaker 3: can't have a girlfriend, Like I like you a lot,
Speaker 3: but like we can't date, and I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god. So then I cried and then I was like,
Speaker 3: well then I don't want to talk like I want
Speaker 3: to date you. Yeah, and she was like, good for you.
Speaker 3: I know I did stand my ground. Yeah, I said
Speaker 3: I want to date like I see a future with you.
Speaker 3: So if you don't see that, then I guess we
Speaker 3: can't be together. And then she said, what about in
Speaker 3: like six months, Like what if I go to therapy
Speaker 3: and like figure my life out? What about in six months?
Speaker 3: And I was like, I mean, I can't promise that
Speaker 3: I'm going to be single in six months, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm probably still gonna like you six months from now.
Speaker 3: I don't really know. And then she left. She was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I respect you. I understand that you don't want anything casual,
Speaker 3: so let's not talk for a while. And I was
Speaker 3: like okay, And then like twelve hours later she texted me.
Speaker 3: She was like I miss you, and then I came
Speaker 3: over to her house and then that's when we like
Speaker 3: for real decided to like start talking talking. You know,
Speaker 3: So when.
Speaker 4: Did y'all become a like did you did y'all have
Speaker 4: like a will you be my girlfriend? Moment?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: She asked me. In May. On May third, she was like,
Speaker 3: she took me to Joshua tree and we like had
Speaker 3: an airbnb and we were like walking around. But on
Speaker 3: the first night, she like made my favorite dinner for me,
Speaker 3: and then we were playing this card game and she
Speaker 3: played like all of a sudden, the song that we
Speaker 3: first like I think made Out Too came on on
Speaker 3: the radio or on the speaker, and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, Shannon, this is a song. And then
Speaker 3: she was like, I have a present for you. And
Speaker 3: then she gave me a necklace and I said S
Speaker 3: and B and she was like, will you be my girlfriend?
Speaker 3: And I said, obviously, we're already dating, like we had
Speaker 3: been an exclusive.
Speaker 1: H that's a long time. R April month, Yeah, April
Speaker 1: to August. Where came where there was like my girlfriend.
Speaker 3: April to May to June, July four months. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: way too long.
Speaker 2: But I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm new to this.
Speaker 4: If you were waiting for me to ask you to
Speaker 4: be your girlfriend, I've never done that before, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't gonna ask her. But I had heard
Speaker 3: that like WLW relationships. I wanted to say Lassie, but
Speaker 3: and then I was like, I don't know if everyone's lasting,
Speaker 3: they go move fast. So I know that she's gonna
Speaker 3: ask me right away, and I feel like if a
Speaker 3: guy were waiting four months to ask me to be
Speaker 3: his girlfriend, I would have complained. So I did start
Speaker 3: like being like, isn't like I made tiny jokes about it,
Speaker 3: but I wanted to be like chill. But then I
Speaker 3: like was telling my friends like, if she doesn't ask
Speaker 3: me this weekend, I'm going to bring it up, like
Speaker 3: for sure, I'm gonna be like, dude, I thought we
Speaker 3: were gonna be together. What are we doing right now?
Speaker 2: But she asked me what was the makeout song?
Speaker 3: It was hopeless romantic by Julia. It's like, it's a
Speaker 3: really good song. It's like, I don't know if you
Speaker 3: know not Julia prap, don't know. I've listened to it
Speaker 3: this morning. It's really good. You guys would listen to it. Okay,
Speaker 3: who kissed you first? She asked if she could kiss
Speaker 3: me when the.
Speaker 2: Night you all hung out for the first time.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we definitely made out, she said. I made
Speaker 3: out though, like a like a girl making out with
Speaker 3: a guy. So we kind of had to fix her
Speaker 3: kissing sounds of.
Speaker 4: What I just had this conversation because of love Island
Speaker 4: because I was like.
Speaker 3: Do you Watu Island? I'm trying to I'm on an episode.
Speaker 3: I'm really behind, but I'm watching kids.
Speaker 2: It's it's a hard watch for me.
Speaker 3: It was a hard watch.
Speaker 1: No, it's good, but the girl the way the girls
Speaker 1: kissed the guys was so jarring to me because it's
Speaker 1: so aggressive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh okay, I wasn't being agressive, she said I
Speaker 3: was being too like like submit, like letting her all
Speaker 3: the work. And I was like, oh oops, what am
Speaker 3: I supposed to work? Am I supposed to cook?
Speaker 4: In? Like?
Speaker 5: What did I do?
Speaker 3: I don't know? But then we figured it out, got
Speaker 3: that settled. The first kiss, I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: was a little bit. I wasn't used to. I've never
Speaker 3: I've only made out with a girl one time in
Speaker 3: the bathroom of in a bathroom stall. But it wasn't
Speaker 3: like I think we're being performative.
Speaker 2: Giving acting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just it was weird.
Speaker 4: Did you feel I'm curious from okay, what was the
Speaker 4: longest relationship you had with a guy?
Speaker 3: It was not very long. I was like, the longest
Speaker 3: one I dated was less than a year. It was
Speaker 3: like nine months. But we were breaking up every other week,
Speaker 3: like terrible, terrible.
Speaker 2: So is this your most like consistent oh relationship?
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, And we are like way more
Speaker 3: connected than I've ever been with a guy, Like I
Speaker 3: can tell her literally anything, like I'm not worried about
Speaker 3: like being cute all the time. Like I feel just
Speaker 3: so more myself and like comfortable and happy. So it's
Speaker 3: like maybe I'm like I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I could go back to dating men that's like
Speaker 3: the same type of men at least, because I was
Speaker 3: going for like athletic guys like just super I don't
Speaker 3: I think I was just trying to like get like
Speaker 3: I don't know, the guy that yeah, the guy that
Speaker 3: like everyone wanted and I just wanted to compete the challenge. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Did you have IX with guys like really easily, Like
Speaker 4: would you get like what were some of the simple
Speaker 4: icks that that Okay, So my whole thing was I
Speaker 4: realized when I started dating Haley the things that she
Speaker 4: that would normally give me the ick, I don't even
Speaker 4: have a thing, Like I know she doesn't it me
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 3: There's nothing that Shannon could do that would like gave
Speaker 3: me the ick and not want to talk to her anymore.
Speaker 3: I want to first state with a guy and his
Speaker 3: car alarm went off and I couldn't talk to him anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding because he was just so awkward around
Speaker 3: the car alarm thing, like he was like embarrassed. That's
Speaker 3: so good.
Speaker 2: So he got embarrassed and that was Yes.
Speaker 3: It was like icky because he couldn't like recover from it.
Speaker 3: He couldn't be cool about it went up because he
Speaker 3: had to call his dad to figure out.
Speaker 2: What something else.
Speaker 3: This one guy like to watch South Park. I feel
Speaker 3: so bad, but I hate south Park. I couldn't This
Speaker 3: other guy, my boyfriend, the guy that I like kept
Speaker 3: breaking up with. He had these like as tech print
Speaker 3: like pillowcases, but like cheap as tech print, like from
Speaker 3: Amazon for like a dollar, And I'm so sorry. I
Speaker 3: literally posted on my Snapchat story, like on my private one,
Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't know how to end
Speaker 3: things like them. He's my literal boyfriend. It's just so bad.
Speaker 4: So if Shannon had like full ass tech decory, I
Speaker 4: love that.
Speaker 3: She wouldn't have, yeah, but I would be like, this
Speaker 3: is so hot. Shannon's like a girl though she doesn't
Speaker 3: do anything itchy, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I love that before you fell in love with the girl,
Speaker 4: you were so for the girls.
Speaker 1: I know it's funny that that was my literal tagline,
Speaker 1: and now look at me.
Speaker 3: Now, I wonder, well, why was that your tagline? Because
Speaker 3: I would like list things that weren't for men, like
Speaker 3: silverware and like air. I should have known, though.
Speaker 2: What those were some of my favorite lists.
Speaker 4: Could you share with some of our listeners who maybe
Speaker 4: haven't seen the videos some things that are for the girls.
Speaker 3: It would be like lowercase letters, shelter, blanket shelter. How
Speaker 3: was shelter for the girls? Why do they need that?
Speaker 3: They're fun? And yeah they I think that I had
Speaker 3: like a bar like men should be like barbarians if
Speaker 3: they're going to be in society because I don't know,
Speaker 3: like they don't even need to know how to read.
Speaker 3: We're good, we don't need them. I should have known
Speaker 3: them though that because also like I don't actually know
Speaker 3: where I was going with that thought.
Speaker 4: It was really confident, fascinated that you ended up into
Speaker 4: LGBTQ artists music videos.
Speaker 3: The first one was an accident. It was I was
Speaker 3: friends with Olivia O'Brien and her and Fletcher did like
Speaker 3: a collapse on together, and Olivia asked me like the
Speaker 3: night before because she just needed Fletcher needed like a
Speaker 3: girl to like sit on a bench with her and
Speaker 3: like predomin to kiss her, which is awkward, but we
Speaker 3: didn't actually kiss, Like I didn't. I don't know. That
Speaker 3: was my first time meeting.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I met Olivia like the day before and it was
Speaker 3: just really last minute, wasn't planned, and I just showed up.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what I was going to be doing.
Speaker 3: All I knew was that I was Fletcher's like love
Speaker 3: and chirst and I just sat there. Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: really quick. It was like a second.
Speaker 4: You and Shandon were together when they did their podcast
Speaker 4: together when Fletcher was on.
Speaker 2: How was that for you?
Speaker 3: It wasn't. I know, everyone probably wants me to be
Speaker 3: like it was so hard and likes so much, Like
Speaker 3: I don't have that much tea about it because I
Speaker 3: felt I just felt so like secure in my relationship
Speaker 3: with Shannon, like I knew we were already exclusive at
Speaker 3: that point, and I think that like knowing kind of
Speaker 3: the people in real life, like I understand that it
Speaker 3: is their relationship is like representation for so many people,
Speaker 3: and it was like iconic. It's like an iconic relationship,
Speaker 3: and so I definitely want to respect that, like it
Speaker 3: should be in a museum. Like that's it, though, Like
Speaker 3: I think it's over, you know, Like I wasn't. I
Speaker 3: was just really secure with her because I I don't know,
Speaker 3: she made me feel so comfortable and like we hung
Speaker 3: out after, like me and Shannon hung out after that
Speaker 3: was like recorded, so it was fine. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know, well, yeah, because.
Speaker 1: That's like so nice because I feel like that's like
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody, no matter how confident and secure
Speaker 1: you are, you have insecurities, Like everybody just has them.
Speaker 1: And I feel like you're what you're saying is like
Speaker 1: my relationship my girlfriend made has made me feel so
Speaker 1: secure that even for doing an interview with her ex girlfriend,
Speaker 1: that people lore I don't even know what they are,
Speaker 1: and that you can can just be like it was
Speaker 1: like she was doing her job, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 3: Like she was like working, they were working together, like
Speaker 3: both of them, Yeah, they were working.
Speaker 1: But just to have that just goes to show like
Speaker 1: how strong your relationship is.
Speaker 3: Feeling. I feel like she's like my best friend, and
Speaker 3: I don't think that she would do anything to like
Speaker 3: ever make me feel unomfortable, like even I mean when
Speaker 3: I watched it, I was like, I do feel like
Speaker 3: they kind of just watched it. Oh yeah, would you
Speaker 3: not watch it? No, I don't think I could. Would
Speaker 3: I would?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you think I would.
Speaker 4: You'd watch it over and over again and analyze every
Speaker 4: single Seaylor, Yes, Okay.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that like I knew that it was
Speaker 3: just like kind of a job that they were doing,
Speaker 3: like you said, like I didn't think. I just I
Speaker 3: just know Shannon and life and I know Carrie, So
Speaker 3: it's like I think, I just I just know than
Speaker 3: like one hundred percent, like I know that it's there.
Speaker 3: You know. I don't want to like ruin anyone's day though,
Speaker 3: because I understand I know that feeling like when you
Speaker 3: want two people to get back together so bad, or
Speaker 3: like you ship people in your head so bad. So
Speaker 3: I I think I want to respect that and like
Speaker 3: let people have their fun, Like that's very kind.
Speaker 2: Of very generous, very generous giver.
Speaker 3: Becca. Well, I don't know, I feel like it's like no.
Speaker 1: I'd favor I'd be like she's mine now lore us
Speaker 1: shook us ship us.
Speaker 3: I just don't care because it's not real. It's like Twitter.
Speaker 3: So but I mean it was annoying honestly. I will
Speaker 3: say though, the day that it did come out, I
Speaker 3: was getting like a lot of like hate comments, being
Speaker 3: like I want her to be with Carrie. That was
Speaker 3: the only annoying part because I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: why don't you guys like me? Like why do you
Speaker 3: like her better? Why does everyone like want? I don't know,
Speaker 3: it was more just my ego. I was like, when
Speaker 3: you guys to like me too, I'm not that bad.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that part sucked for like two hours, and
Speaker 3: then I beca more energy Yeah you don't, Yeah I do.
Speaker 3: But I was just with her the entire time, Like
Speaker 3: it's hard.
Speaker 1: To be like, I know what you say makes sense, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's like I just feel in real life it's like, well, you.
Speaker 3: Know what, I honestly think if it were a man,
Speaker 3: there's no way, Like I would not know why.
Speaker 1: But so that's so interesting. Why what's the difference, Like, because.
Speaker 3: I feel like we're best friend, We're literally like I
Speaker 3: just feel so close to her, like she wouldn't do
Speaker 3: anything to hurt me, you know. Yeah, but you're saying
Speaker 3: if it was a guy doing an interview with I
Speaker 3: would feel different. It's not interesting, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like scrutinizing body language.
Speaker 3: What me, No, I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Sitting, I'm saying, if there was a guy, you'd be
Speaker 4: like scrutinizing.
Speaker 1: Watching it over and over, somo being like why did
Speaker 1: you do that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So interesting. Well, she also like, I've never dated someone
Speaker 3: in the public eye, so I understand, like their life
Speaker 3: is like kind of on display for everyone, and they're
Speaker 3: trying to like be enter, they're trying to entertain, They're
Speaker 3: doing their job to like make you and I mean
Speaker 3: Carrie had an album to promote. Yeah, yeah, everyone knew
Speaker 3: what they're doing, right, Yeah, I understand. And a lot
Speaker 3: of her songs are about Shannon, like not this album,
Speaker 3: but like they are they have been about Shannon in
Speaker 3: the past. So yeah, obviously it's entertaining to like imagine
Speaker 3: if Taylor Swift did an interview with like Harry Styles,
Speaker 3: I would watch that too. But I understand that they're
Speaker 3: probably never going to get back together. I wish, so
Speaker 3: I really do wish that they would get back together.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We started.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was with Shannon over the weekend at a
Speaker 4: party and it was so yeah at that beach party.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, we were spike ball partners.
Speaker 3: I heard about this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was very sore and she said she needed
Speaker 4: a wheelchair. But she it was so fun to talk
Speaker 4: to her about you because she just speaks so highly
Speaker 4: of you, and like the happiness radiating.
Speaker 2: From her was so like, we just had such a
Speaker 2: great day.
Speaker 4: And I remember thinking we left and I was telling
Speaker 4: my sister and her girlfriend. I was like, Shane, then's
Speaker 4: so happy, Like it was so fun to be around
Speaker 4: her and her talking about Becca.
Speaker 3: I feel like we're just a good fit. Like I
Speaker 3: feel like we understand each other, and like she balances
Speaker 3: me out. I feel like I'm super adhd and like
Speaker 3: chaotic and like I'll be like do we should do that?
Speaker 3: And that, and then she's really calm and like keeps
Speaker 3: me together. And also I've never had a relationship like
Speaker 3: thisuess where i feel like we're like almost like puzzle pieces,
Speaker 3: like fitting together kind of. Yeah, and like she sees
Speaker 3: she understands everything that like sometimes I'll say something to
Speaker 3: her and I'll be like, why do I feel this
Speaker 3: way about like something random, like any like issue in
Speaker 3: my life, and it's almost like dating a therapist because
Speaker 3: she like connects dots for me. She's like, well, remember
Speaker 3: the story you told me, Like I don't know, it
Speaker 3: is like dating a therapist. It's so nice, Like she's
Speaker 3: just so balanced, I feel, and she never gets worked
Speaker 3: up like I never. I feel like with a lot
Speaker 3: of men in my past, like I just feel like
Speaker 3: I wasn't ever understood and it was never like I
Speaker 3: was kind of there's like a wall between us and
Speaker 3: we couldn't get on the same page. And I feel
Speaker 3: like it's because I was trying. It might have been
Speaker 3: the type of mine. How shosing now, because I really
Speaker 3: was going for like the stereotypical like I don't even know,
Speaker 3: like popular guy, and I feel like they I was
Speaker 3: just trying to get them to see me as like human,
Speaker 3: like trying to get them to like view me as
Speaker 3: like someone important, like someone important to like make myself
Speaker 3: important to them. But with Shannon, I'm already like she
Speaker 3: inherently and like important to her, so like I don't
Speaker 3: need to do I don't need to prove myself to Shannon,
Speaker 3: like I don't need to be like, guess what, I'm
Speaker 3: a girl, and also I'm smart, and also I have feelings,
Speaker 3: Like Shannon already understands all of that, and that makes
Speaker 3: our relationship like way easier because we're on the same page.
Speaker 4: Like all the time, she told me how smart you are,
Speaker 4: like she's so smart and she's so good at games,
Speaker 4: because I was like, y'all should come over for games,
Speaker 4: and she like, Becca's so good at games.
Speaker 2: She's so smart.
Speaker 3: No, not that good a game. She's not supposed to
Speaker 3: tell people that because then I can like shock them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was, she forgot I said anything.
Speaker 4: I know we've talked about a lot about your relationship,
Speaker 4: but I'm so curious how your career got started as
Speaker 4: an influencer, because did did you start doing tiktoks with
Speaker 4: the plan of this becoming your career or did it
Speaker 4: happen accidentally.
Speaker 3: It was an accident. I've always like had a pretty
Speaker 3: sarcastic sense of humor, So the first video I've made
Speaker 3: was me like rating my date party dates sarcastically, like saying,
Speaker 3: this guy left with another girl when he took me
Speaker 3: ten out of ten. And that video was really meant
Speaker 3: for my friends or like people that I knew or
Speaker 3: knew those guys, but it went viral, like the first
Speaker 3: video I ever made. So then I kept going. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, I have so many men
Speaker 3: that I can make fun of, and just kept going
Speaker 3: on and on. Yeah, and that's kind of where the brand,
Speaker 3: like for the girls, not the guys, because everyone would
Speaker 3: be like I would never like yeah, I would only
Speaker 3: like talk shit about men. H That's when I like
Speaker 3: started to take That's when my brand started. Yeah, back
Speaker 3: in like twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4: So, and then you had a series where you would
Speaker 4: basically reach out to guys who were in relationships.
Speaker 2: What was it called the loyalty test?
Speaker 3: I to do test? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did that was that hard for you to like deliver
Speaker 2: that news to girls?
Speaker 3: Yes? Obviously it was terrible. I would send them screenshots.
Speaker 3: I started that because this girl wanted me to DM her,
Speaker 3: like a girl organically asked me for that, like one day,
Speaker 3: like she was like, Hi, this is so random, but
Speaker 3: like my boyfriend loves blonde girls. Will you DM him?
Speaker 3: And I was like what the heck? Yeah, obviously, and
Speaker 3: I sent her screenshots and he failed the loyalty test.
Speaker 3: So then I was telling a story to my friends,
Speaker 3: which means like he failed, which means like he like
Speaker 3: was flirting idea and was kind of being flirty and
Speaker 3: I showed her and I was really sad and emotional
Speaker 3: and it was hard for her. But I was telling
Speaker 3: my friends the story and they were like, you should
Speaker 3: make that into a TikTok, and I was like, I guess,
Speaker 3: and then I started doing, but then it got way
Speaker 3: too overwhelming, you guys, like I was doing like inundated.
Speaker 3: What does that word mean, like like flooded with girls
Speaker 3: wanting you to act still every day still, and I
Speaker 3: haven't done one in probably two years. Yeah, I have
Speaker 3: not done a single one of these and two years
Speaker 3: and every I get asked about it every single day
Speaker 3: in my DMS. So maybe I should just starting it.
Speaker 3: But everyone knows I'm dating a girl.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: I feel like you can just go into my profile
Speaker 3: and see that I'm not single, So why would I
Speaker 3: be sligning in anywaybe.
Speaker 2: Then like a secret.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can make a fence to maybe with like
Speaker 3: random pictures, but yeah, I just these boyfriends, and a
Speaker 3: lot of them, it wasn't like one hundred percent of
Speaker 3: them were failing it was like, like you say the
Speaker 3: percentage like forty percent, I would say failed. Oh so
Speaker 3: the higher percentage just didn't fail. M oh nice.
Speaker 2: So it's just not crazy, not seene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know if they this.
Speaker 2: Is great, great they're not checking. That means they're not checking. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's good news.
Speaker 3: I'm happy about that percentage. Yeah, would that be crazy
Speaker 3: if like I mean, I don't know. I might be
Speaker 3: under exaggerating, but that would be crazy if like eighty
Speaker 3: I would literally like never want a date again if
Speaker 3: it was like eighty percent. It honestly did make me
Speaker 3: a little bit jaded towards dating for a while doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 3: How are any of you feeling this? Like, yeah, so sad? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know that's really I was thinking.
Speaker 4: Because sometimes we'll get advice things on our emails and
Speaker 4: it'll be like, oh, I know so and so's cheating,
Speaker 4: Like do I do I say something? And Tanya and
Speaker 4: Mark are always like, stay out of it, it's not
Speaker 4: your relationship.
Speaker 3: But I'm like you, guys, no, I don't say stay
Speaker 3: out of it. I'm like, get in it. Yeah, get
Speaker 3: let them know. Yeah, because it would suck, Like, how
Speaker 3: else are you gonna what if they never find out
Speaker 3: and then they get married or something. Yeah, I just
Speaker 3: feel like they find out, I find out. I don't,
Speaker 3: or I guess sometimes in some cases, people kind of
Speaker 3: don't want to know if their partner is shooting. Like
Speaker 3: that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like, let's say you meddle and then
Speaker 1: you tell them and then they do nothing about it,
Speaker 1: and then.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but still a bad guy for letting them know
Speaker 6: they're being cheated on, because you're like being judgmental, like
Speaker 6: you're not interjecting yourself into these people's relationship, and then
Speaker 6: you're like you're not gonna do anything about it.
Speaker 3: Well, imagine that's where you just got to look at you.
Speaker 1: It's all but imagine like knowing that other people knew
Speaker 1: and then you if you genuinely didn't know.
Speaker 3: I would be mad at my friend, so.
Speaker 4: Mad if someone knew and didn't tell me. If anyone
Speaker 4: knows that Haley's doing anything, you have permission to meddle.
Speaker 3: Get in noted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially you, especially you beca Thank you so much
Speaker 4: for scrubbing in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: I love Where can people follow you?
Speaker 4: Where can people listen to your podcast, watch your podcast,
Speaker 4: all the things it is called.
Speaker 3: My podcast is called for the Girls with Becca more
Speaker 3: I'm five episodes in, so don't expect to love. I'm honest.
Speaker 3: It's like pretty chaotic. It's on YouTube and Spotify and
Speaker 3: then my TikTok and Instagram is just Becca more Perfect.
Speaker 5: We love so much.
Speaker 2: It's so happy for you.
Speaker 3: This is like therapy. This is awesome talking to you guys.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: Actually