WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Livin' In The Future 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.279 I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:10.320 the Bengals Booth Podcast. The We're living in the future 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:14.920 and none of this has happened yet. Addition, as we 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:18.160 not only look ahead the Sunday's game against the Dallas Cowboys, 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:22.000 but also talk to an NFL draft expert about the 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.360 class of twenty one. My one on one player interview 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.560 this week is with a guy who has a very 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:32.880 unusual job quarantine quarterback. And we'll wrap up this edition 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.080 of the podcast by talking to a local business owner 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.000 who has partnered with the Bengals to introduce a new 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:43.279 fashion brand with a positive message. 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It will take months 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.040 to mass produce and distribute them in large enough numbers 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:36.480 to effectively end this pandemic, but modern science is truly remarkable. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.600 Now let's get to football. It's been a rough year 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:43.959 for the Bengals and this week's opponent, the Dallas Cowboys, 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:48.040 both lost their starting quarterbacks to season ending injuries and 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.400 are looking at high draft picks next year. Right now, 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.520 the two, nine and one Bengals would have the third 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.640 pick and the three and nine Cowboys would have the 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.360 fourth pick. That's where we start this week's pod cast. 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.400 Dane Brugler covers the draft for The Athletic and as 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:09.480 a walking encyclopedia on the subject. Recently, Dane joined Dave 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:11.960 Lappam and me on the Bengals pep Rally Show, and 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:17.399 we began by discussing Oregon offensive lineman Piney Sewell, who 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.520 is widely considered to be the top old lineman in 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:25.600 the twenty twenty one draft. He's a very very talented 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.800 prospect and he's a very young player. He will not 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:33.040 turn twenty one years old until October. So a very 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.120 young player who unfortunately opted out of the season, and 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:40.119 I say unfortunately just for evaluation purposes, but we saw 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.760 enough of him his first two years. He started twenty 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:46.000 games at left tackle for Oregon. You know, for a 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.160 player that young to play at the high level that 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.919 he did, just a really impressive player. He's a native 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.200 of American Samoa, moved to the States, moved to Utah 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.680 and she has an eleven and just really started to 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.560 grow both physic glee and then on the football field 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:05.120 with his understanding of the sport and the position. And 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.800 you feel like he's still far away from playing his 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.400 best football. So you know, the combination of what we 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:15.240 have already, and that's just a player who you know, 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.080 he had that big man balance, he's got that mobility, 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.799 the football instincts, but also what you think he's going 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.440 to be as he continues to grow and you know, 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:25.240 as he gets older. I mean it's hard to believe 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.359 he was actually born a few weeks before Tom Brady 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.639 through his first path. So this is a very very 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:35.200 young player who has a very high ceiling in the league. Well, 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.480 when you when you look at it. I was wondering 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:41.400 physically obviously, the dimensions and the athletic ability and all that, 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.880 but I was going to ask you about the mental 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:48.560 part of it. Does he the football iq, the football instincts, 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.440 Does he have football awareness? Does he see the is 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.240 he tunnel visioned on just his assignments? Does he understand 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:58.280 the total uh, you know, football philosophy and structure of 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.720 his offense, what defense is are trying to do to 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.160 his his position offensive ammuse into all that stuff. Are 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:08.160 you're aware is or is he still growing in those departments? Well, 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.600 he's still growing. You know. There are times where you 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.240 know he can be out angled in the run game, 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.840 and you know, and just in terms of understanding where 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:21.159 his landmarks are improving his body position, you know, the 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.840 timing midset. You know, these are areas where he can 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.239 get better. But I don't think there are areas where 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.919 they're a problem or you think it's going to be 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:33.159 an issue for him long term. But I mean there's 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.479 a lot to be encouraged with his instincts. He's a 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:39.600 player who he understands timing with his punch, his hands 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:44.320 stay up ready, explosive six inches, so he can attack 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.359 rushers before they get into his body. He keeps his 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.880 feet moving at contacts so he can create movement in 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.480 the run game. And then I think there's something to 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.920 be said about his toughness and he will play through injury. 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.240 He played his entire senior year of high school with 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.880 a torn labor. This is a tough, tough dude who 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.360 you know. There's a lot of things you point to 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.600 that say, Okay, he's going to be a pro not 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.800 only just a starter, but a Pro Bowl level player 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.920 for a long time. We're talking to Dane Brogler, who 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.640 does a great job of covering the draft for the Athletic. 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.800 If Sewell is taken before the Bengals pick, how is 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.360 this class of offensive lineman after him? At think off 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.800 of the tackle position. I think there's a clear one 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.120 with Sewell. But I also think there's a clear two, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.000 and that's where Shaun Slater at Northwestern. And I tell 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.360 you what, he's going to get dinged throughout the process 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.200 when he comes. I can see it now. He's going 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:36.960 to step up with the stage at the Senior Bowl. 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.240 He's going to extend his arms and they're gonna be 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.080 thirty two and a half thirty two and three quarters 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.680 and he's gonna get dinged because he doesn't reach that 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.560 thirty three inch threshold that a lot of teams, a 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:51.000 lot of evaluators have. But this guy's a tackle. You 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.919 watch him on film and you see a guy that's coordinated. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:58.080 He understands leverage, you understand how to attack the opponent, 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.479 and so go on the tape of him again. Chase 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:04.360 Young last year. He was the only tackle on last 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.600 year's college film that was able to slow down. Chase 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:11.239 Young at Ohio State a really, really impressive player, another 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.560 opt out. No tape from this season, but he started 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.760 thirty seven games both at right tackle on left tackle 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:22.000 for Northwestern. So he is experienced player who is worthy 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.480 of a pick somewhere in the top twenty if in fact, 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.240 the Bengals don't pick at number three. When you get 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.479 to number five or whatever the case may be, or 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:35.039 even at number three, is there an edge rush guy 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.040 that's close to school value on the board. It's like, Okay, 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.320 I want to take the best available player on the board, 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.520 and position and need obviously is a factor, but they 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.479 need pass rushers as well as tackles. Is there a 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.800 pass rusher that may cloud the issue at all. You know, 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.239 we've been really spoiled the last few years with Miles 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.320 Garrett and then you know the boasts of brothers Chase 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.760 Young last year. This year, we don't have that guy. 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.479 We don't have that clear cut top five overall pass 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:08.800 rusher who's just different. You know, he's got special to him. Now, 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.320 We've got some quality pass rushers in this class, but 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.520 none that I would say are top ten locks. Gregory 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:19.000 Rousseau from Miami. He's the most interesting of the group. 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:23.120 Another opt out red shirt sophomore who as in high 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.040 school he was a wide receiver, he played defensive back 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.880 and then he kind of outgrew those positions, moved the 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.640 defensive line as a senior, and then at the red 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.000 shirt freshman last year at Miami he led the acc 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.840 and tackles for a lock in sacks. A really young player, 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.840 but you see the potential really long. He's a good athlete, 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.560 but still piecing together how to be a pass rusher 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.560 in terms of the sequence, in terms of his pass 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.840 rush moves, he could maybe getting at the top ten, 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:51.720 but he's not a top ten lock. He's not on 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.800 that same level and really that's the conundrum with this draft. 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.040 I think looking at the non quarterbacks, there's only a 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.240 few of these guys that you point to in say 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.360 oh yeah, he's definitely going to the top ten, and 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.760 I think that's the Penna stool, and then I think 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.040 Jamar Chase, the wide receiver from LSU. After that, I'm 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.520 not sure any of these guys are absolute walks to 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.600 go in those top ten picks. No corners either. I 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.560 think this class has a few really talented corners. Caleb 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:23.800 Farley from Virginia Tech, Patrick Curtan from Alabama. Would I 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.720 had named two guys on defense, those two would be 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.320 the guy to be the guys. Caleb Farley with a 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.200 quarterback in high school, moved to wide receiver, then moved 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.000 to corner at Virginia Tech, and he's got a sky 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.520 high ceiling as a player. He's a good sized athlete, 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.280 six two. He's gonna run really well, he's got ball instincts, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.640 still new to the position, so he's still learning. And 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:46.440 so it's just a matter of how early do you 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.680 feel comfortable taking a guy like that. Patrick Curtan, obviously 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.800 the son of an NFL pro bowler, not gonna run 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:56.800 exceptionally well, probably somewhere in the four fives. But he's long, 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.959 he can press, he can pattern match, and he doesn't 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.520 nice job finding the football downfield. So I think both 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:05.840 those guys will definitely be in consideration, but I don't 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.760 know that I would call them absolute blocks. A couple 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:12.920 more questions for the Athletics draft expert Dane Brugler, How 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.920 did the quarterbacks line up in your mind at this point? 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.840 And have you heard anything yet about Desmond Ritter, who's 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.040 a junior at the University of Cincinnati, and I think 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.880 everybody expects him to come back for his senior year. 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.680 But is he on the radar at this point? Well, 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.000 the Ritter's definitely on the radar, no question. You know, 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:36.000 after you get past these top four quarterbacks, that's Trevor Lawrence, 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.960 justin Field, Zack Wilson, and Trey Land, and you've got 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.560 a couple of seniors. You know, Kyle Trask is in there. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.400 But Desmond Ritters one of the few, you know, upside 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.720 quarterbacks where you feel like he's maybe a developmental option. 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.920 He has the size, he's got easy arm strength, you know, 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.480 still has room to fill out that frame of his 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.559 He's a good athlete. The accurs see you wish is 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.600 a little bit better. It seems like for every five 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.040 yards that he's throwing, it seems like his accuracy drops 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.480 just a little bit. So, you know, he's a guy 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.520 that's easy to love. The competitive nature. You know. Talking 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:13.360 to my people in Cincinnati, they say he's just off 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:17.040 the chart. He's a true competitor. Obviously he's well coached there. 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.120 So personally, selfishly, I'd love to see Ridder go back 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.800 for another year because I think he could be continue 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:24.680 to get better and better and we'll be talking about 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.439 him as a possible first rounder in the twenty twenty 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.640 two class. But this year's class, it's going to dominate 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.960 the conversation. These quarterbacks. Trevor Lawrence the clear favorite to 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.280 go number one, and then two, three and four, those 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.440 those next three quarterbacks. That's where there's a lot of 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:44.240 intrigue and split opinions throughout the league. There's no consensus 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:48.280 on these guys. Ohio states justin fields, just a really 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:53.160 good mobile athlete, very accurate with his passing vision, with 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.640 a little bit better in terms of going through his progressions, 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:59.880 eliminating things a little bit quicker with Zack Wilson has 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:04.240 this year for Byu just just really phenomenal. Byu hasn't 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.599 had the best schedule necessarily in terms of the opponents, 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:12.320 but watching him execute these throws off platform, instructure, out 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.480 of structure, changing his arm angles and just had a 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:19.040 natural accuracy to him. To Zach Wilson, he's in play 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.160 to be one of the first quarterbacks off the board. 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:25.239 And then Trey Lance, who's really an unprecedented evaluation. Seventeen 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:29.920 career starts in college all against FCS opponents, forty six 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.439 total touchdowns, only three turnovers, a lot of traits that 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.040 you bank on for the next level. So I think 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.960 you can be drafted high. But with his resume, his 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:43.800 meager experience, he really is an unprecedented evaluation. When you 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:49.400 mentioned seul and balance, I can testify to the fact 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.560 that when I played against defensive lineman that or of 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:57.600 Siman heritage, these guys were immovable objects. I mean they 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:59.679 all the weight that they cared was all on the 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.200 right places. Their knees were over their ankles, their hips 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.360 were over their knees. I mean they were just like 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.520 they'd hunker down, balance up, and you couldn't move these dudes, 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.000 and is he Is he that kind of guy? Is 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.480 his weight distributed that way? Is he that type of 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.720 an athlete? And what are his actual dimensions? I've heard 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.600 anywhere from three twenty to like three forty and above. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.280 How big and strong is this guy? Yeah, it'll be interesting, 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.559 interesting to see what he weighs in at because obviously 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.760 we haven't seen him this year, so you know he's 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.840 obviously working out and you know, trying to hone his craft. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.080 But what will he tip the scales at. I would 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:38.200 guess somewhere between three twenty and three thirty. He's just 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.920 a hair under six six, good length. But I agree 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.400 with me. I think he does have that flexibility, just 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:49.000 that natural, natural body type where the footwork, the flexibility, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:53.000 it looks natural for him. The physical traits, you know, 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.120 no worries there, that big man balance, the mobility. That's 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.880 part of the reason why Tristan works is having so 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.520 much success as a for the team of Bay Books 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.560 this year. He has that big man balance. And I 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.320 think you're absolutely right. You know, he's another one of 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.640 these just big samoans who it just looks natural for 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.120 him out there. It's really excited to see sewell this 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.000 pre draft process just to see what improvements he's made. 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.199 Is he moving the same? What's his weight at? So yeah, 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.440 it's plenty we have to learn about school, but he's 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.439 in that driver's seat to be the first non quarterback drafted. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.480 Dane Brogler does an exceptional job of covering the draft 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:33.319 and you can follow him on Twitter at d P Brugler. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.280 Now time for this week's one on one player interview. 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.920 My guest is a player who joined the Bengals last 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.000 week and has a job that didn't exist in the 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:46.199 NFL until this season. One of the most unusual jobs 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.040 in the NFL this year is emergency quarterback. Brandon Allen 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.040 had that job with the Bengals. Now he is the 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.000 Bengal starting quarterback, and the new person in that role 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.200 is Kevin Hogan, who joined the team last week. Kevin, 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.760 we're calling an emergency quarterback because you have to be 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.760 kept somewhat separated from the other two just in case 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.000 they catch COVID nineteen. How difficult does that make it 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.400 for you to learn the offense and be ready to 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.480 play just in case. It's definitely a little different than 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:18.040 I've been used to in the past. And you know, 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:19.960 as a quarterback, you want to interact with the other 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.120 guys and be in the same room with them and 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.920 socialize with them. But that's just the way it is 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.280 this year that I have to kind of be separate. 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:34.560 So I'm doing my meetings by a zoom and then 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.600 a separate room, and when we're out on the field, 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:41.320 I'm just being conscious of staying, you know, a good 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:46.120 distance away, just to be safe. But yeah, and then 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.560 outside the facility, I'm you know, making sure that I'm 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:54.440 staying out of not good situations, I guess, and being smart. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:15:00.160 So it's definitely different, but it's it's easy with Zoom, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.640 easier than I guess it would have been without. So 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.320 I still feel like I'm kind of in there and 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.600 able to get a lot out of the meetings. For 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.360 chatting with quarterback Kevin Hogan. In a normal year, you 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.040 could try out with a team on a Tuesday, sign 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.720 a contract, and be at practice on Wednesday. Not this year. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:21.680 Describe the process you went through before signing. So I 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:25.840 was called on Monday morning, and I was on a 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.640 flight about a couple hours later, and as soon as 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:33.960 I got to Cincinnati, I began my quarantine process, which 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.440 was five days, and the only thing I had to 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:41.720 do was come to the facility each morning and get 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:45.320 tested and then just make sure that I didn't catch 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:50.200 COVID nineteen. So it was a lot of a loane 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.800 time and trying to make the most out of your 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:58.240 day while staying in shape and getting ready for a workout. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.320 I'm picturing lots of take out and lots of Netflix. 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:07.960 That's exactly what it was. Did you watch Queen's Gambit? 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.080 What did you Knock Off? On Netflix? So? I was 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.360 coming from San Diego, where I was doing quite a 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.320 bit of surfing out there. So I was catching up 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:23.480 on some of my surf documentaries last week, just kind 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:28.280 of keeping me in that low key, good vibe, just 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.600 so that I was able to, you know, not overthink 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:36.080 anything or just wanted to stay low key. You're talking 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.440 to Kevin Hogan. It's been reported that former Seattle draft 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.000 pick Alex Magoo also got to work out. Did you 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.480 two run into each other at all during that five 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.880 day period? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, Um yeah, I saw him 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:52.160 every day. Alex was a really good guy. We were 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.960 able to catch up a lot. He'd been down in Florida. 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.880 But uh yeah, and he spent some time around the league, 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:02.040 so we're kind of just chatting and catching up about 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.200 his experiences, and you know, I wish him the best 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:09.320 wherever he ends up. So your name undoubtedly sounds familiar 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:13.560 to some Bengals fans because there are four quarterbacks in 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.040 history to rush for one hundred or more yards in 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:20.440 a game against the Bengals, Cordell Slash, Stewart, Cam Newton, 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.960 Lamar Jackson, and you. You did it in your NFL 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.639 debut with the Cleveland Brown. Seven carries one hundred and 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:32.400 four yards, including a spectacular twenty eight yard zigzag touchdown run. 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:36.040 What are your most vivid memories of that day? There's 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.760 a lot. I have a lot of fond memories of 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:44.159 being in Paul Brown Stadium because of that debut. We 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:48.040 lost that day, but it was a lot of fun 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:52.239 making a debut in the NFL. And still have that 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:56.240 touchdown ball on my shelf. But I'm trying to do 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.639 it again. I would love to be able to do 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.240 that again a few more times. We're chatting with Kevin Hogan. 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.399 You're a Stanford grad. You had an incredible career for 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.959 the Cardinal, including three Rose Bowl victories. It's also a 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:13.360 great academic school. Obviously, how did you juggle football and school? 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.680 They did a really good job of providing resources and 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:22.639 any help you might need to whether it was balance 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:26.440 your time or your schedule, and with classes or practice. 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.320 They're very flexible, so I admit it easy on us. 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.960 I know that the academics is tough there, so it 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.440 was really helpful to have those resources and the ability 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.160 for athletes to reach out if they need to help 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:47.200 or tutors. And then the coaches were flexible with practice 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.119 schedules if you had a class. So that's something that 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.040 I really respected from Stanford that they were really willing 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:57.560 to help the student outlete. You were on NFL rosters 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.000 for three years before being out of the league last year, 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.320 or what could you do last fall? So I got 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:09.080 injured in the last preseason game of twenty nineteen and 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:14.840 had to undergo surgery, and so I was spending a 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:18.399 majority of last season rehabbing, so that that took up 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.040 most of my time, and then just really tried to 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.480 stay busy mentally. I didn't want to kind of fall 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:29.000 into a funk. Anytime someone goes through some sort of 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:33.240 adversity that can be tough, so I was trying to 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.800 stay busy. I did a few week long internships with 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.800 my financial advisor, or actually interned on Capitol Hill for 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.720 a week, and really just taking lots of meetings outside 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.159 the football world just to kind of pick people's brains 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.440 and learn as much as I could while I had 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:53.280 all this time. You interned on Capitol Hill for a week? 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:57.800 I did with what representative? So I interned for Congressman 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:02.159 Steve Scalise, who's the publican whip, And it was a 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:08.520 very eventful week because it was impeachment week. Wow. Do 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.080 you envision a career in politics someday? Is that something 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:15.760 that interests you? No time soon. It was just something 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:21.840 that being from DC and knowing people who've been on 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:26.440 the Hill that it was something that I wanted to 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.800 kind of peek my head into. But I would love 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.160 to play football as long as I can, and then 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:37.080 whenever my football poker has done, try my hand in business. 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:41.000 All right, final question for Kevin Hogan. Obviously, you could 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:45.120 get into a game if there are injuries or depending 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.280 on the play of the other two quarterbacks, so you've 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.720 got to be ready to go. But beyond that, what's 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:51.960 your goal in this final month, Are you trying to 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.119 make a good impression so that you'll be back with 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.080 the Bengals at the beginning of next year. Oh, I 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.639 would love to. I'm really enjoying my time here, really 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:05.760 like the coaching staff, really appreciate the opportunity that they've 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:09.680 given me to come in. And my goal is to 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:13.159 just be the best teammate, to help Brandon and Ryan 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.720 and the other guys as much as I can, and 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:21.600 then just show that I can contribute to this team 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:26.600 and really just be a guy that the organization would 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:30.200 want to keep around and show that I've made I've 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.280 worked on a lot of stuff over the last year, 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:37.240 year and a half and I want to show those improvements. Yeah, 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.760 I would love nothing more than to be back in Cincinnati. Kevin, 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:43.040 appreciate the time very much. Best of Luft the rest 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:47.160 of the year. Thank you appreciate it. The Bengals Booth 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:51.119 podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light and 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:55.240 refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. The Dallas Cowboys 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.240 come to town on Sunday with Andy Dalton at quarterback. 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.480 The Red Rifles ten benefit season and first on a 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:04.600 team other than the Bengals, has been eventful, to say 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:08.560 the least. He replaced an injured Dak Prescott in Week 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:11.560 five and led the Cowboys to a dramatic last second 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:15.880 victory in his first start. The following week, Dallas got 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:19.320 blown out by Arizona on Monday Night Football thirty eight 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:23.159 to ten, and one week later, Andy suffered a concussion 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:28.119 after a brutal hit by Washington linebacker John Bostick. While 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:32.160 he was out with a concussion, Dalton got COVID nineteen, 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:36.639 extending his time on the sidelines. He returned to action 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:39.159 three games ago, and the Cowboys have gone one and 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.959 two since, including a thirty four to seventeen loss in 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:46.960 Baltimore on Tuesday Night. For the season, and he has 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:51.320 seven touchdown passes, six interceptions, and a passer rating of 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:55.320 seventy nine point five that would be the second lowest 0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:59.480 of his career, only topping last year's number of seventy 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:03.199 eight point three. The Cowboys are in last place in 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:07.800 the NFL's weakest division, the NFC East, where the Giants 0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:12.800